A Farmer Donated Land to Turn into a Park. The City Is Building a Massive Data Center Instead
https://www.404media.co/a-farmer-donated-land-to-turn-into-a-park-the-city-is-building-a-massive-data-center-instead/
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IcedRaktajino@startrek.website · 235 pts · 76d
mecen@lemmy.ca · 10 pts · 76d
Don't even mention:
Datacenters Behaving Like Acoustic Weapons
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bP80DEAbuo
Arrandee@lemmy.world · 154 pts · 76d
She’s gonna get a share of the lease revenue on that, right?
…right?
IcedRaktajino@startrek.website · 172 pts · 76d
Even if they didn't do her dirty, she wouldn't. She donated it to the city and relinquished ownership of it. The expectation, even written into the deed, was that the land was to be used as a park, but they turned around and sold it multiple times. Despite the stipulation in the original deed to the parks and recreation department, the data center is still going forward.
The story is just such a tragedy all around.
Arrandee@lemmy.world · 115 pts · 76d
Huh, I’m not an attorney but that sure seems actionable if the intended use was documented in a contract.
IcedRaktajino@startrek.website · 148 pts · 76d
She's got an attorney and they're trying to stop it based on that, but it just seems like everyone involved (edit: besides her) just doesn't give a fuck.
db2@lemmy.world · 112 pts · 76d
They've been taught that if they ignore the law and do whatever they want to they don't get punched in the face.
That will only go on for so long but it's going to suck until someone gets punchy.
Mirshe@lemmy.world · 63 pts · 76d
Especially with the recent East Wing argument, the lesson is "if you do it fast enough and ignore other people getting angry about it, you can do whatever you want."
Signtist@bookwyr.me · 8 pts · 76d
The only reason they ever didn't ignore people getting angry about things was because when people used to get angry they also got shooty.
iThinkDifferentThanU@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 76d
nullspace@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 76d
What's the saying? "Ownership is 90% posession."
Like with the stuff going on at the East Wing or the Kennedy Center, some people just move forward even if they're not allowed to because chances are they won't be stopped or penalized.
Bluescluestoothpaste@sh.itjust.works · 11 pts · 76d
"Possession is nine-tenths of the law" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Possession_is_nine-tenths_of_the_law
shawn1122@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 76d
Interesting to witness societal decay in real time.
fratermus@piefed.social · 19 pts · 76d
The relevant case law may be found in Molotov vs. New Construction .
sukhmel@programming.dev · 1 pts · 76d
Can't find what it was, what did that one end with?
Bricriu@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 76d
A bang
sukhmel@programming.dev · 2 pts · 75d
Oh, that, well it was definitely a hit
theolodis@feddit.org · 3 pts · 76d
You don't get it, they will build a data center park!
bluGill@fedia.io · -10 pts · 76d
While in many ways it is a tragedy, the cure is often worse. I on balance oppose deed restrictions, either you own the land and pay taxes, or you give up all control. Deed restrictions just force future generations to live by your values and that is a bad thing.
IcedRaktajino@startrek.website · 35 pts · 76d
It's a lot like another commenter mentioned about eminent domain. It can be used for good (roads, fiber deployments, district heating, etc) but also for things not so good (data centers, etc).
I went out of my way to find a house that didn't even have a vestigial HOA deed restriction, so I get that. But when a private citizen donates something to the local municipality, it's pretty egregious to not honor those restrictions, especially for things that may take a while to develop.
I'd donate my share of my family's farmland to build a park, but I wouldn't sell it for all the money in the world to build a datacenter or landfill or anything else, really.
bluGill@fedia.io · 13 pts · 76d
It is a jerk move for sure and the voters should be mad about this. If you can't keep your word without a contract that says a lot about your lack of honor.
I'm talking pure legality here though. The cities actions are legal and should be. They are however dishonorable and nobody should deal with the city again.
frostysauce@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 75d
As for your last line there, forcing future generations to live by the values of having a park isn't a bad thing.
bluGill@fedia.io · 0 pts · 75d
What makes you so sure? I mean, I would hope that future generations will have parks, but we don't know what the future is going to be like. There may be some consideration that we couldn't even conceive of that would make it not a good thing for them to have a park. Or maybe parks are considered good in future generations, but there's a reason that that is a particularly bad spot to have a park.
crandlecan@mander.xyz · 10 pts · 76d
No takey-backs! ✝️
NatakuNox@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 76d
brem@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 76d
Best they can do is no trees, half of everyone riding mobility scooters and neighbors with dogs that can poop EVERYWHERE.
crandlecan@mander.xyz · 2 pts · 76d
Nice try, Big Dungbeatle Inc. 😑
neukenindekeuken@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 75d
they're not even leasing. It's a flat sale. For a measly 10 million
cogman@lemmy.world · 90 pts · 76d
One of the more fucked up aspects of eminent domain. City/county/state governments can nuke deeds by using eminent domain. It allows them to turn a plot of land, regardless prior restrictions, into things like dumps.
The fucked up part about it is they can also turn public lands into private lands with that same trick.
What's frustrating is we still need eminent domain for good. It's basically the only way to build railways and roads. It even ends up being one of the few ways to deploy things like district heating/cooling and new fiber lines.
Yosmonkol@piefed.social · 33 pts · 76d
Eminent domain didn't factor into this particular case. The Taylor Economic Development Corporation simply ignored the deed and sold the land to BPP Projects LLC/Blueprint while Taylor City Council and Judge Ryan Larson approved and upheld it respectively.
PalmTreeIsBestTree@lemmy.world · 22 pts · 76d
I believe eminent domain should have a very limited scope legally and should mostly only be used for public infrastructure projects and housing honestly…
somenonewho@feddit.org · 2 pts · 76d
But AI is Public Infrastructure.
/s^just in case
NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 76d
We have different definitions of good. I don't see how building a highway system through other animals homes is considered "good".
kevinsky@feddit.nl · 1 pts · 76d
A road in of itself is definitely a public interest...
Where they should and should not be built is another discussion.
NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 75d
Agree to disagree. I don't believe humans own the earth.
kevinsky@feddit.nl · 1 pts · 76d
Serving the public interest is not already a prerequisite? Surely gov't cannot arbitratily pull this card?
I might be talking out of my ass but i'm pretty sure using imminent domain is not only needed for matters of public interest but specifically needs to be backed by it when you want to use it.
spirinolas@lemmy.world · 77 pts · 76d
innermachine@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 76d
Hmmm Providence RI by any chance? LOL
Goodlucksil@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 5 pts · 76d
OP claims to be from southwestern europe here: On a post about his cat
dzsimbo@sopuli.xyz · 6 pts · 76d
Lol, that's clearly Portugal. They have burrokracia over there, and they are honorary Balkan.
oxideseven@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 76d
Not judging but curious, why did you dig into post histories? I see plenty of people doing it even if I never do, so I'm just curious why.
JigglySackles@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 76d
Can't answer for them but the few times I've done it is to make sure I'm talking with someone that can actually hold a conversation and I'm not arguing with a shill or looney. Sometimes just to see what a person is like on average. Especially if they act like a cunt for little reason. Some do it just for curiosity sake.
oxideseven@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 76d
Makes sense. Thanks for the answer!
JigglySackles@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 75d
Sure thing. 🙂
innermachine@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 76d
Lol I wasn't expecting op to actually reply don't need them doxxing themselves was just poking fun at how that crap happens more often than you'd think with the corruption , shits a plague everywhere
Eternal192@anarchist.nexus · 77 pts · 76d
AI is starting to show that it isn't worth the investment and they are STILL building more?!? WTF is going on?
fenrasulfr@lemmy.world · 31 pts · 76d
Because I do not think AI is the actual end goal. I think the actual end goal is cloud computing. They want everyone to use thin clients and connect to their data center instead of using a pc at home.
nosuchanon@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 76d
Don’t forget the surveillance state! The global buildout for the NWO one government surveillance state will be paid with your pension and retirement savings.
fenrasulfr@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 76d
Nothing to do with a so called new world orde just the same people as before. It is just the government and industrialist that want more power. We are just living though the beginings of a cyberpunk setting.
nosuchanon@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 76d
Yeah but without the cool tech or space exploration. We just get the shitty parts.
fenrasulfr@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 75d
Well there is cool tech for the ultra rich (some examples, robotic prostetics, private space companies, Gabe's private lab yachts, brain interface, private exploration of the Marianna trench).
We definetly get the sloppy seconds, if that.
Olhonestjim@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 76d
I think the real goal is the billionaires uploading their minds to achieve immortality. Definitely impossible, but that's what I think.
Duamerthrax@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 76d
That was my theory to why Zuck was so interested in his Metaverse. Every billionaire is planning some sort of post-life or extending their lives one way or another. The same way kings and emperors of history have.
SabinStargem@lemmy.today · 4 pts · 75d
Chinese emperors often consumed mercury in pursuit of eternity. Zuck and friends want to print themselves onto silicon. Coincidence?
Duamerthrax@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 75d
You also have Brian Johnson's blood transfusions and it wouldn't be a stretch that Musk's children are all potential organ donors.
Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 76d
AI LLMs are definitely a smokescreen for justifying more compute.
What the real goal for all those CPUs is I have no idea.
hanrahan@slrpnk.net · 3 pts · 76d
full circle, back when I started, main frames with thin clients.
PhoenixDog@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 75d
Good thing my rural internet isn't strong enough for that
fenrasulfr@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 75d
Than just a thin client for you.
Rothe@piefed.social · 3 pts · 76d
Jensen Huang has been pretty open about that being the plan lately. Although he still insists that even the cloud computers will be run by AI agents.
Eternal192@anarchist.nexus · 1 pts · 75d
That might have worked over a few generations but they want people that are used to owning their stuff to just give it up over night and it's not going very well for them.
hark@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 75d
There are multiple goals in mind such as surveillance, pumping the stock market, taking control out of people's hands, excuses to do things like lay people off, etc. In this case or in general for local governments, it's a matter of a select number of people getting a lot of money in their pockets and thus pushing for these data centers to happen.
Jankatarch@lemmy.world · 26 pts · 76d
The bailout money will be double what they lost I am guessing.
Throbbing_banjo@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 13 pts · 76d
Red line go up.
Napster153@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 76d
Profit Cults gotta commit to the behaviour
Auth@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 76d
That is crazy and would make no sense for them to do. Why do you think they're doing that?
Kolanaki@pawb.social · 56 pts · 76d
It should be legal and acceptable to take back things given for one purpose that end up being used for something else.
LovableSidekick@lemmy.world · 35 pts · 76d
It actually is if the gift is conditional on a specified use - in writing of course.
Siegfried@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 76d
In my country it is legal to do so
PhoenixDog@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 75d
It's legal to burn down data centres if you don't get caught.
brem@lemmy.world · 56 pts · 76d
I was curious where the land was, and if I could help in any way.
It's in Texas. I made a promise to myself that I'd never go back to Texas.
Texas. Fucking. Suuuuuucks.
violentfart@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 76d
“Don’t mess with Texas” now has a different meaning.
el_muerte@lemmy.ca · 22 pts · 76d
"Don't mess with Texas, it might be contagious"
brem@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 76d
Just like "Everything Is Bigger In Texas" is considered a self-own to the rest of the world, they're the brunt of the joke. (Sorry Austin, you too. Yes, even SXSW)
garretble@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 76d
"Texas hurt itself in its confusion."
itsBlorpinTime@feddit.online · 2 pts · 74d
Texas. The state by millionaires for billionaires.
frustrated_phagocytosis@fedia.io · 45 pts · 76d
People should know that donating land like this is not at all guaranteed to keep the land from being developed. Promises to keep parks in existence is nothing when the city "needs" a new development, hospital, data center, whatever.
HotsauceHurricane@lemmy.world · 39 pts · 76d
I know the saying is "don't mess with Texas" but Texas seems to fuck itself over all the time. I would be raising hell about this if it was my backyard.
ironycanal@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 16 pts · 76d
That's kind of but not exactly a mistranslation. The original Chinese is closer to 'do not interrupt your enemy while he is making a mistake', but in the american vernacular, you can just say 'don't mess with Texas' and it means the same thing locally. Its one of those very regional sayings.
calebm@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 76d
Pretty sure "Don't mess with Texas" began its life as an anti-littering campaign in the late 80s or early 90s. It has been appropriated to mean all sorts of things, though. The original meaning might be even more relevant to data centers...
ironycanal@lemmy.dbzer0.com · -2 pts · 76d
No, the EPA just appropriated sun tzu.
Kolanaki@pawb.social · 3 pts · 76d
I mean... I guess it could mean that now, but that is certainly not what it meant originally or how it was ever used.
ironycanal@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 76d
Oh, you speak Chinese?
Phantaloons@piefed.zip · 4 pts · 76d
In the most Peggy Hill way possible.
Kolanaki@pawb.social · 1 pts · 76d
Is "don't mess with Texas" Chinese?
ironycanal@lemmy.dbzer0.com · -1 pts · 76d
I just said its a translation. Yes. From sun tzu I think. In england they translate it the other way I said here.
Kolanaki@pawb.social · 2 pts · 76d
Except the actual phrase didn't originate from whatever Chinese saying you're talking about. It was an anti-littering campaign, from Texas, in the 1980s.
ironycanal@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 0 pts · 76d
No, its from translating 'the art of war' into an american dialect. EPA just appropriated it.
Bluescluestoothpaste@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 76d
This has nothing to do with any translation of any language, it's a US English expression.
Taleya@aussie.zone · 7 pts · 76d
It is a joke.
They are intimating that texas makes so many mistakes that "Don't mess with texas" may be a blowhard boast to texans, but to everyone else it means "just let the idiots wreck themselves"
ironycanal@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 76d
Also that 'Texas' is synonymous with 'enemy' for all Americans.
Bluescluestoothpaste@sh.itjust.works · -3 pts · 76d
Still has nothing to do with translating anything from any other language.
Kolanaki@pawb.social · 2 pts · 76d
And since they doubled down on it being the actual origin when pressed on it, I don't think they were joking.
Taleya@aussie.zone · 4 pts · 76d
..it was pretty obviously a shitpost, dude.
ironycanal@lemmy.dbzer0.com · -1 pts · 76d
Absolutely not. You don't double down on a joke.
Impractical_Island@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 76d
Any time I think of the art of war, I think of this song:
https://youtu.be/gGYlocT1kOA
hanrahan@slrpnk.net · 7 pts · 76d
Impractical_Island@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 76d
That is how Americans do things. A third of angels fell, but that's ok because we have the Illuminati to kerfuffle their feathers.
solarvector@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 0 pts · 76d
Thank you for the correct interpretation, I really need to remember that one
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 32 pts · 76d
a while back when i was a animal physio class a university, the profess told how he knew someone about to retire/Will but he wanted to donate it to STANFORD on the sole purpose of it being used as a research station in some island/country. the guy somehow heard the stanford lawyers said they were going to sell it or rent it out instead right behind his back. he gave it to Berkley university instead to be used for science.
the moral of the story make sure you have something in place so that the land/property being donated is used properly by a lawyer or a trust org.
HugeNerd@lemmy.ca · 10 pts · 76d
Universities are a business and have the morals of your generic street thug. Why anyone would consider donating anything to them is a mystery.
OCATMBBL@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 75d
Mostly to get their kids guaranteed entry into the university.
random_character_a@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 76d
Whistleblowers with morals are also more important that people realise.
SirEDCaLot@lemmy.today · 26 pts · 76d
And this is why you need a lawyer when you're doing this kind of thing.
If this farmer was smart, there would be a clause in the contract that the land may only be used for a park or other public space. And that if the city decides to resell the land, the farmer or their descendants will have the right to reclaim it.
Thus, farmer could either stop the data center or at least get a solid payday.
HailSeitan@lemmy.world · 50 pts · 76d
If you read the article, there was exactly this sort of clause in the deed, and now the courts are saying “fuck you”
Buelldozer@lemmy.today · 19 pts · 76d
It's one Court and unsurprisingly it's the Court located right there in town. I strongly suspect that the Third Court of Appeals is going to have a different take on this mess.
At least where I live you can't wash away a deed restriction like this by transferring the property a couple times.
kevinsky@feddit.nl · 2 pts · 76d
It is wild to me that this wasn't handled elsewhere to begin with. There is no way to at least somewhat guarantee a fair process with this massive potential for conflict of interest.
SirEDCaLot@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 75d
Actually just did read the article, had to dig it up off an archive site. Honestly this seems like it's a garden variety case of deed washing. Pass the property back and forth a few times between various entities, somewhere in the line the deed restrictions get 'accidentally lost', and what comes out in the end is a parcel with no restrictions and the only one with any interest in enforcing restrictions is five or six owners ago (all with impeccable arm's length separation of course) so if a court does try and fix it you end up with a giant mess of transactions to unwind, some of which may not be possible to unwind.
Sadly if I'm correct that means the most likely outcome is the deed restriction is enforced and the data come center company files a claim with their title insurance. The best shot at actually unwinding any of this is that the property was transferred for significantly below market value or for nothing between some of those entities in the middle, which makes it a lot easier to argue they were acting as one.
ArchAengelus@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 76d
IANAL. The general approach to this isn’t to sell it, from what I’ve seen. It’s to lease it for purpose.
We have a number of scouting camps near me that have permissive leases. Technically, the family that “donated” the land has a conditional lease with BSA, with terms like “BSA may use the land so long as one Boy Scout sleeps on the property at least one night per year.” With stipulations that if this requirement is not met, the land returns full and unconditional ownership to the nearest living descendant.
In the mean time, BSA is responsible for all taxes, costs, upkeep and improvements.
Basically, until BSA dissolves, they will be free to use the land. Failure to meet the condition would immediately revert ownership and void the lease.
Syrc@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 75d
Not a lawyer either, but the article explicitly says “sold”, so I assume it’s not just leasing
SirEDCaLot@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 76d
I can just see it- 'Okay kids it's that time of the year again, whoever wants to get their computer merit badge and their camping merit badge, bring your tent at meet at 6:00 p.m. in the parking lot of the data center on our old campground...' 🤣
(I'm sure that's not the only restriction heh)
But yeah I agree that's the way to go, basically guarantees the donation recipient stays in line and the instant they don't the donation evaporates.
neuromorph@lemmy.world · 24 pts · 75d
was there a clause that if it isnt used as intended, it return to the owner?
EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com · 20 pts · 76d
Pave paradise and put up a
parking lotdata centerWandowsVista@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 75d
🎶 shoo-bop-bop-bop-bop 🎶
some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org · 20 pts · 75d
I can't imagine a better way to ensure people don't donate land ever again.
ptc075@lemmy.zip · 19 pts · 76d
Stories like this always remind me of the Peter's parking deck at GA Tech. The couple that donated the land wanted it to be a park, so that the students would have a green place to play and relax. Once Tech had the land, they put a parking deck there instead. But they put a basketball court on the top level so that they technically met the letter of the law.
In fairness, as a student I needed that parking deck way more than I needed the park.
neuromorph@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 75d
omg, never knew about this donation. Sad, but also in the spirit of an engineer doing absolute minimum to pass compliance while achieving what you need. Whats the good word!
Soup@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 75d
The said part there is truly that the you needed a parking lot more than greenspace.
CannedYeet@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 75d
Yeah, it's a park... An industrial park
imperious_melange@lemmy.zip · 17 pts · 75d
NottaLottaOcelot@lemmy.ca · 13 pts · 76d
I’m curious what would be the better approach if someone wanted to donate land to be used for a park? Give it to a charity? Or somehow find the cash and just build the park yourself and let people visit your land?
ITGuyLevi@programming.dev · 25 pts · 76d
My town had a guy that loved baseball a long time ago, he had money and wanted it local so he built a baseball field right on the river, made a big park and donated it to the city. He was pretty smart about it and worked the deed so that it would take a two-third vote of the citizens to sell it.
Fast forward to a couple of years ago and the mayor petitioned the governor to change the deed under an NDA as he wanted to lease the park to a minor league baseball team. In the deal he also gave them the naming rights for the park, so the baseball team renamed the park after a local bank that gave them money.
NottaLottaOcelot@lemmy.ca · 17 pts · 76d
Damn, you really can’t control your legacy, huh?
RagingRobot@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 75d
It would be easier if you weren't dead
MrNesser@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 76d
Depends how it was dontated, you can specify a loan of the land indefinetly to the city as long as its use is xyz.
If its a straight donation with no caveats attached then the city can do what it wants
My local council tried to build on some park land donated 100 years ago but the donator had specified its usage in the donation so they got shut down pretty hard.
Syrc@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 75d
Unfortunately it seems like the donator specified the usage in this case as well, but the courts are straight up ignoring it.
MyVeryRealName@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 76d
Sell a part of your land and use the money to build a park on the rest.
betanumerus@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 75d
neuromorph@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 75d
tax benefits to donations, as opposed to maintaining it
betanumerus@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 75d
whotookkarl@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 13 pts · 76d
Syrc@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 75d
Archive link to bypass login
some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org · 19 pts · 75d
404 Media is journalist-founded and supported by reader subscriptions. They are four high quality investigators doing amazing work (they work with a couple of other people on some stories).
If you can't afford it, I understand. I share archive links all the time. For anyone with a few extra bucks who cares about quality reporting by people with integrity, this is easily one of the best options around. I've been extremely happy knowing they exist. (Gets you extra content from their podcast, too.)
Syrc@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 75d
I generally hate the principle of subscriptions + ads + paywalling stuff to viewers but not to crawlers, it’s pretty much double-dipping while baiting people for SEO.
On the other hand, I understand that in this day and age keeping a news outlet afloat without “outside influence” requires doing stuff like this. It’s a hard thing to balance but in either case I appreciate the insight from your comment, I admit I didn’t look them up and I figured they were just another money-hungry megacorp-owned outlet.
some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org · 2 pts · 73d
And I have no problem with that. I sort of found out who they were by accident cause they had a trend of good stories getting posted here and at some point I auditioned their podcast where they mention that.
Arachnidbrilliant@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 9 pts · 75d
She trusted the government I don’t understand what Went wrong
LovableSidekick@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 76d
Shoulda got that in writing I guess.
vithigar@lemmy.ca · 5 pts · 76d
Sounds like she did and the city just ignored it.
reksas@sopuli.xyz · 5 pts · 76d
if you just give it away, assume it will be used for the worst thing you can imagine. You give it away with strict agreement that it will be used only for things you have intended.
HailSeitan@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 76d
There was a specific clause in the deed that it had to be used for a park, and now that is not being honored
SabinStargem@lemmy.today · 4 pts · 76d
Corrupt Bastard: "We will name it...Data Park."
reksas@sopuli.xyz · 2 pts · 76d
then hopefully the city will be made to honor it
Darcranium@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 76d
What can we do to fight this particular court ruling?
Cellari@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 75d
Anyone got old Indian burial grounds to donate for a data center?
glitch1985@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 75d
Best I can do are some bats and protected plants.
Etterra@discuss.online · 3 pts · 76d
This is why you don't donate property and large sums of money unless you're already rich. I used to date a girl whose parents inherited like a million dollars, and they donated all of it to their fucking church. Shortly they're after, the preacher retired and build a new giant house. Fuck that shit.
Virtvirt588@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 75d
If you're poor and win a lot of money, the best thing to do is to shut the hell about it.
tehn00bi@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 76d
Fuck me. I used to live around there a while back
Babalugats@feddit.uk · 1 pts · 73d
I've seen this story a few times now. Is there (gonna be) a court case, or is that it?
Nobody got any fight in them anymore. Which is how they like it.