PlayStation fans brutally reject Sony's disc decision, eye Windows 11 PCs over Xbox

This is what i am hoping. Windows is still MS and their anti gaming bull.

My question becomes what would limited run games create the games to play on in the future? PS6 will likely not have a physical game option if I had to guess. Nintendo Switch 2 just came out, so that may be the last console to support physical games. I guess we’d be stuck using old machines. Given how powerful current systems are, that may be enough for indie studios.

The main appeal of consoles is that you can essentially just plug and play without having to worry too much about extra configuration. As much as I like Linux, it’s generally not a good alternative for console folks who just want to relax and play video games.

PC is PC.
For the first step it doesnt matter what OS you run.
Your issue is the second step.

It's still a mess. Only ready for technical users. Not even in the same ballpark for Xbox.

The article is probably paid propaganda by Microsoft.

My most recent switch for my desktop was Fedora. Super simple to install steam and most games I have tried so far work. Happy to try other flavors as well because they all have cool features worth exploring. Happy to try anything new. Suggest you all do the same just like Winnie suggests.

The last thing I want is AAA game studios supporting Linux due to a max exodus of Windows users, because that means they'll shoehorn their kernel anticheat into proton. Keep that shit away from my work machines. If the capability is included at all, then it will become a vector for nasty exploits.

Because it's still a mess. Only technical users are going to stick with it.

While I agree, that's a lot to ask of a PC gamer, let alone a console gamer. Maybe if SteamOS starts supporting hardware better, that could be a good distro we could point console gamers towards.

Do u think the people used to hitting the power button and clicking the game they want to play on a console are gonna be able to set up Linux and work out the inevitable bugs? I think moving from a console -> windows PC is a good intermediate step before going to Linux, and hell to this day I still use a windows PC because of the programs i need for tuning ecus and designing 3d models (yes I know i can use freecad but also my job has a fusion 360 subscription and thats what we use at work, and no there aren't any ECU tuning programs worth a shit on Linux that wont brick a 1k$ ecu). Yea windows is enshitified, but I'd argue it's less enshitified then either console at this point and I'd rather see people move away from consoles to windows than keep buying consoles because they can't figure out how to get their GPU to work with the distro they chose. I personally have gone through and debloated windows to the point it works great. I understand that same effort could have been spent setting up a good distro, but no distro would run HP tuners or tripnic suite or ecuflash and I WONT risk running in a virtual box or any of that crap for my applications, too much at risk! And don't worry I didn't give microslop a dime 🏴‍☠️

Every single time anybody talks about Windows 11 someone, usually a lot of someone's, always comes along and goes, just use Linux. We know Linux exists, it's not a secret, you don't have to mention it ad nauseam in every single post.

If they ever fix the kernel level anti-cheat issue this would be a good suggestion. Until then, Linux can’t play most of the most popular and most played games on consoles.

Just use Winhance. It not only removes all AI bullshit, it also makes your computer faster. Linux boxes are great if you wanna live exclusively in Steam. Some of us pirate games that aren't on Steam.

My gaming machine is still using DDR3. Never really saw a reason to upgrade, games mostly became more demanding in the graphics-sector, even the first-gen i5 is doing reasonably well with most games, even newer ones. And if not, I blame badly optimized games.

RAM speed usually is the last thing you have to worry about in games.

They will never do this, but we can dream.

If valve released a "exchange program" that allows you to trade digital licenses, even for a fee, it would be revolutionary.

...don't...don't they already have this feature? Steam Family allows you to share libraries of games with your "family members".

And unlike Nintendo with their Virtual Game Card two-week limit, you can share Steam games forever AFAIK.

Not yet a good option for gaming.

It only saves your sanity if you have a full AMD build. Otherwise, you better be an IT pro or have the time and inclination to do a lot of learning. Nvidia drivers are notoriously problematic with Linux

as popular as diy and linux are on lemmy, pre-builts are still bought by more gamers; and those almost always include windows.

It's a Windows news site

Honestly sad that this is at the bottom of this thread with all the linux glazers listed above. And every comment is massively up/downvoted depending on whether it is in support of Linux or not, regardless of the quality of the arguments.

To be fair, I'm a Linux user myself but I really cannot stand these obnoxious people who think that Linux is a full-on Windows replacement for everyone and anyone who doesn't immediately install Linux is an ignorant fool. I like tinkering with my system, but I wouldn't berate anyone who doesn't. I care about my privacy, it's not my business whether you care enough to switch your habits and devote your free time towards Linux.

I'd like to preface by saying I have no intent of invalidating you. However... It is a bit of a journey. If you are nerdy and like seeing how things come together, you will likely enjoy said journey, if you're someone who just wants things to work out of the box, the road might be a little bumpy...

I may have grown used to tinkering, but I'll admit I enjoy it, I am such a nerd. You shouldn't have to tinker, nor use the terminal nor know all the little details in your distribution, and as a long time linux user, who has found the value of the terminal (so much so I use the drop down version of it) it annoys me that most tutorials even mention it.

Lately, there's an incredible emphasis on FPS in games, rather than daily drivability or ease of use for newbies, and in my opinion it adds to the choice paralysis. And I'll say up front, Ubuntu, the once popular distro, shouldn't be suggested for newbies, because of some of their choices too. (Notably Snapd)

Ideally, the journey should start with something that works with your hardware, offers a decent software selection, But also leaves room for exploration should one want to. I'm a sucker for post installation first boot "wizards" that ask what software you'd like, and there aren't enough distros that do this.

I'll be honest, distro hopping is inevitable. You will eventually want to try something different, and there's nothing wrong with that. But it shouldn't be at the very beginning. But the solace is that, there is more than a single way to tackle any issue in Linux, and very often the simplest isn't the most obvious, nor the one mentioned in tutorials...

My journey way;

Ubuntu 9.04 > Xubuntu > Linux Mint Xfce > Linux Mint Cinnamon > KDE Neon > Manjaro KDE > Garuda Linux

And frankly, I still suggest Linux Mint. I dont think I personally know another that's a good entryway. It does provide what I assume, to be what most people need, and still offers plenty of ROM to grow.

Ideally Cinnamon, but if you want a lighter desktop, Xfce is decent and complete, and still more customizable than Gnome (without installing extensions)

Linux is definitely a rabithole, not gonna deny that, you'll find all sorts of people, but ideally, the journey is your own, there is no score for using "hard mode distros", just enjoy the ride at your pace, and don't be afraid of asking for help when you need it.

I got really lucky with mint, like, everything works! Games, apps, my work flows normal. But my only one problem is quite annoying: I need a windows only extension for my printer.

Linux users are the sort of people who will tell you that vinyl just produces superior sound quality. It's a sort of cult really.

Linux systems are fine but they are hardly the pain free, "it just works" solution that the community likes to constantly claim that it is.

I think the percentage may be higher, but people who like physical media are more likely to be people who buy things second-hand and people who buy much fewer games, but keep playing them for much longer. Sony simply doesn't care about them, because the ones who move the market are the ones who buy a lot of games, making huge backlogs that will never be touched, pay for subscriptions, etc, and those people don't care about physical media

Yep, the amount of acceptance is disheartening. i hope those console gamers keep taking it so pcs still have a tad of affordability.

To get with the same toxic boyfriend but wearing his business casual attire.

The difference, unlike a Playstation console, is that you also control the hardware and OS on a PC (mostly, and for now, at least; they're working on fixing that)

This means that you don't need to "jailbreak" it with a modchip to gain access to basic functionality like simply deciding to make backups and other copies for yourself or to simply not to run the DRM requirement since you don't want to run that on your hardware that you own and you should not be obligated to. They call this piracy and cracking and say it's illegal, but I say it's a fundamental right. When it's convenient they'll tell you that you own the games, and when it's inconvenient they'll tell you you don't own them and they decide what you can do with them. It's like saying I can't photocopy pages from or write in the margins of a book I bought and own, whether it's digital or not. I reject that principle and refuse to abide by it, and you should too, and PC allows you to. Playstation does not, at least not with a nontrivial amount of work and a lot of penalties. It only requires a trivial amount of work on PC and generally will not allow the enforcement of any penalties (it shouldn't require any work and shouldn't enforce any penalties, but DRM and laws and always-online content are doing their best to make it difficult as much as they can)

The reality of the encroaching enshittification is real, but that is still the fundamental difference that a PC gives you, and I suspect it will always remain so. Never give up on this platform, defend it like a fortress and do not let anyone entice you away from it, only suffering leads down those paths.

It's covered in the article

You already pay for RAM and SSD when you buy the console

I think it's mostly about being able to have physical media that you own and can't be turned off.

The all-digital, non-upgradable, less-powerful-than-a-PS5-but-for-2x-the-cost steam machine?

It’s still a bad deal. It also can’t play most games that console players play these days.

PlayStation is a walled garden and Sony recently pulled a collection of digital movies from people's accounts. Valve might enshitrify someday but they haven't yet. Digital rights on Sony are already being abused.

Because valve hasn't simultaneously announced this and pulled content from people's accounts without consultation or apology.