Speak it in Latin and claim you don't know what Latin even is. Then use Google Translate like some time later and tell her.
If she ask any questions just say the usual, "God works in mysterious ways", "maybe this is a test from God like in the book of Job", or "are you questioning my faith or yours?"
I'd wake up and say "God says that he's pissed that you keep doing dangerous stuff, and expecting Him to pull your sorry asses out of the fire. He says it ends now, and you're on your own. If you pass out in the hot summer sun, you're going to die, and your constant annoyances mean that your place in heaven is not secure. He's not real thrilled about have to live in close proximity, whee you'll be dropping by every day for coffee. He thinks Satan ought be able to settle y'all down a bit. Just something to think about...oh yeah, Sweetie? We're over. Bye!"
"I think the demon attached itself from you. If God favored you then He'd protect you from them, I think someone in your family is harboring a Dark Presence. We're unequally yoked."
As someone who grew up in a conservative, Baptist home, I can tell you that this 100% isn't the most insane thing I've heard or seen, but it falls right in line.
Insane how grown ass adults believe in absolute fairy tales written by the rich/kings to keep the lower classes subservient. In 2026.
I'd love to ask someone in the 1940s what they'd think of 2026. I bet they'd think we were all living on other planets and half cyborg by now. But nah. Trillionaires.
I heard about how Pokemon say their names because they are demons and repeating their names increases their power in the world because you summon demons by chanting their names and playing drums.
Seriously, a lot of southern churches have this thing about drums because they believe some conspiracy theory that African Religion is actually "Demons!" and that they used drums to summon the demons.. And that rock music is bad because it uses drums, which summon demons.
Yep. My mom is the last thing I hold any level of doubt for. I let her have her Christian thises and thats and I indulge her just enough to keep her happy. She was and is a great, loving mother who deserves to go out comfortably, and I'm seeing to it.
.. but the very week she's gone, the filter is off and is never going back on. No one else deserves it and it literally sucks the life out of me to nod along to someone else's insanity when they're around. It's draining.
I have to wash off with NetGeo documentaries, Nova episodes and Twain essays after every visit.
I think my father in law still believes Hurricane Katrina was a punishment to the people of New Orleans from God Himself. I've never heard him say similar things about other natural disasters though.
My parents told me that the Clinton's, Gates family, and other influential people go to masquerade parties where they murder babies and wear their skin as masks. And they were 100% serious.
In the world of Epstein Island revelations, there is some fucked up stuff out there, but I'm pretty sure we'd know if people were mass slaughtering babies for fun.
This is what gets me. We have proof billionaires have a secret child sex club. That's not even a conspiracy theory anymore. But why do people still feel the need to endlessly speculate and wonder if it's "actually something worse?" I do not understand the conspiratorially minded. Like I legit saw someone say in response to the first Esptein file releases say "what is this supposed to be distracting us from?" Like... HUHHH??? This is your HOLY GRAIL! The thing you e always wanted! Hard proof that the elite have a secret child sex club and you're reaction is "seems fake, what are they really hiding." Blows my mind.
Also, you is directed at the person I was talking about, not you you. In case this comes across as accusatory.
Yeah it's actually incredible the mental gymnastics involved.
It's also fun when a Republican is involved, because it's "clearly overblown or fake", but when it's someone they don't like (usually a Democrat), THEN it's a problem.
When looking at the video feed from a night vision camera, my parents tried to convince me the white specs floating around were angels and souls watching over us (it was dust in the air refracting the infrared)
Hillary Clinton and Bill Clinton are part of a baby murdering cult were they skin baby faces to wear as masquerade masks
Bill Gates is building COVID-19 nanites and putting them in the vaccines
The whole QAnon conspiracy stuff they REALLY got into
My wife and I are being controlled by the devil and now our kids are damned because we got them vaccinated, since it's "The Mark of the Beast".
My parents are estranged now. You can imagine why.
"Listen, your mon had a heatstroke. This isn't a demonic attack. It's common knowledge that this happens when doing hard work in extreme heat. I can't be with someone who's family believes that demons are behind common medical conditions. In other words: your family is insane and I can't date you anymore. Bye"
I'd probably talk to the girl and see if she holds the same beliefs. She's Christian, yes, but there are plenty of people raised in such families that use the term out of familiarity, but don't share the extreme views of their parents.
Though with that said, even if the girl isn't off the deep end, I'd understand that having her parents as potential in-laws could be a bridge too far.
I remember playing this 3 day LARP, the kind with pre-written in-depth characters and story that is played over 3 days strait in characeter, in Wierd Wild West setting, where I played a Trapper that was about to marry someone from the local village, my family was married into but my parents died shortly after.
It eventually turned out that the whole village is a cult that eats people to keep some kind of evil imprisoned, and my fiance's family is the one spiritually leading it, and I still can't forget the nights spent trying to reasonably argue and discuss with my fiance that it's definitely not ok and we should just leave.
I obviously never had to have discussions like this in real life, but it was pretty interesting how extremely futile it is. They have so many arguments you can't say anything against. Once they start with "But this is our purpose given to us by God, if we don't do this the whole world will end", or "It was God's will, you will understand soon", you really don't have much to say to that to get through.
Of course, it was just a LARP and she played her character well, but now I can pretty vividly imagine that talking to someone who's so much into anything like that is extremely difficult, to the point of being futile.
(I managed to convince her to leave, the winning argument was "Your grandmother tried to poison me, here is proof", lol).
The thing with RPG worlds is, when the characters are saying these kinds of things there's a good chance that this is actually and demonstrably how that RPG world works and they're not just a bunch of grifters.
Oh, it was definitely how that world worked, and she played that role really well.
But, the experience (especially in multi-day nonstop LARPs, where you immerse into the world and your character really extensively) is pretty indistinguishable from real-life. At least in how you perceive it. For the few days, your life has these problems now. And you just accept it and get into it, and don't even consider a difference between real and "imaginary" problems. It's hard to describe, tbh.
I was not trying to imply that any of the involved people were grifters, I was mostly talking about the experience of being in a situation like that, where you have to actually talk to someone like that. I'm pretty sure that there wouldn't be much of a difference between talking to someone who can roleplay well and has spend two days in their character, vs. talking to someone who spent most of their life being indoctrinated like this.
Or rather, the problem-solving part of it. I had literal days in that world to figure out how to approach this, what to say so it would work in that situation, how to argue with her. I didn't come up with anything that would work, and things that I came up with were swiftly rebated by fanatic religious speeches. Just like she had a pretty easy time of coming up with arguments I couldn't say much against, that would still be perfectly in-character, as she told me after the LARP.
EDIT: I may have misunderstood your comment, sorry :D. Yes, you are right, it was how the world worked - we did eventually all died because some kind of evil has been awakened, lol. But that doesn't change anything about the experience of having to argue with someone who's indoctrinated in a cult vs. you, who don't believe in stuff like that. It's difficult. From my point of view, they were grifters, because I had no indication of proof of what they are saying, so I did my best to figure out what to do or say, and I couldn't come up with anything.
I highly recommend it, especially the kind where you have a pre-written set of characters and story with semi-scripted events, instead of just being "bring your own character" (not sure how is this kind of LARP called). It's such a different experience, because every character has a purpose, has as lot of conflicts, and everything is made to just work.
But be careful, there is a reason why people compare this kind of LARPing to heroin :D You will probably emotionally crash out after it ends, just like it is pretty addicting.
I mean, it's pretty different if what the weird cult claims could be true, i.e. gods and evil demons do exist in general. In the real world, you pretty much know that's it's all fake, the only remaining question is whether the person you're talking to believes it or is in on the grift (it's often kind of both, but I still think that the pure grifters have a different quality than the more standard religious/cult leaders who truly believe (most of) their self-serving drivel).
Everyone is going with the satanism or whatever non-Christian antics they are coming up with.
That's too easy.
Study some Bible verses and understand the tenents of the religion. Learn enough about the family to find something you can use. Then break up with her by saying her family are heretics and state that reason. Tell her they're all going to hell and close the door tight. Never talk to her again.
You get it. Insidious "mustard seeds", if so needed. You can't always logic someone quickly, it takes a lot of time to even consider changing any core beliefs. But I really value my time. So it's either worth it, or I'm taking the path of least resistance... aka, "your family's the devil and you didn't even know. Sorry, God certainly loves YOU though. And maybe we woulda worked in a different life, but until then; bye and god bless"
Oddly, the two super churchy women I've "been with" ended up leaving the church afterwards. Maybe OP should do a little 🫰🤌🤏 to her 🍑 and see what happens.
I used to be spiritual and got used to spelling it with a K.
I realized it was all bullshit. I thought I knew sacred knowledge and that the spells weren't working because I wasn't good enough...
I realized I'd never be good enough and that the guy who was teaching me magic was using it as an excuse to get high (he claimed we were doing sacred rituals that increases our magic power.... we were fucking drinking DXM)
Wow, totally not where I was expecting that response to go. Super cool, you basically had the pagan version of a christian to non-christian realization. Wild!
I tried Buddhism for awhile only to realize that's bullshit too.
Don't believe the people who are all "Oh it's just atheism but you meditate."
Now there's a rich theology with ghosts and heaven realms..
Meditation straight up doesn't work as anything other than a breathing exercise. I saw no visions
Thought I remembered a past life but I'm pretty sure I made it up because I saw it from a third person perspective. I "remembered" being a Latina prostitute who sold drugs at an arcade
Ironically, that's a super Buddhist statement. The idea that you would go do a Buddhist meditation with the expectation of gaining something from it is antithetical to what Buddhism is about. I'm not a Buddhist, I don't meditate, but I remember going to a session with my significant other and a bunch of people were like, "how many sessions of this do I have to do before I start getting the effects (depression getting better, anger issues, etc)." They completely missed the point that the whole thing is about self-reflection, or as you said, a breathing exercise.
If you're a mindful and competent person then you probably aren't gaining much from guided meditation. If you're struggling with some stuff then taking 30 min of dedicated time to work through it is probably a good thing. If you're a certain type of Neurodivergent and have trouble focusing, then it's probably something you could do every day.
More importantly, if you're a 3rd century AD monk who has a ton of time on their hands, it's probably not a bad way to spend your time (other spiritual/religious groups would do the same praying)
Enlightenment is just realizing truths that go against assumptions that get programmed into us by the way we are raised into society. Meditation, I think, is a way to think neutrally about things, which can make it easier to realize those truths, because we can have a lot of emotional attachment to the untruths they replace.
I don't really meditate myself (hence the "I think") though psychedelics might have helped prime me for several enlightenments (it's not just one thing). Enlightenment doesn't really solve any life problems but make it way easier to navigate life emotionally by adjusting expectations and entitlements.
I suspect the mysticism added on to Buddhism was intended to address the existential dread about the certainty of death (the reincarnation stuff) as well as try to temper those that realize nothing is really stopping them from doing whatever the fuck they want to others if they either have the power for it or don't care about what happens to themselves afterwards (the karma stuff).
Personally, I separate the mysticism from the philosophy, where I consider the latter very useful for living a happy or at least content life and the former fun to think about, probably wishful thinking, but no real way to know unless there is something after death.
My experience from taking the MBSR was that the match of meditation techniques to practitioner was wildly idiosyncratic.
I think the best thing about that class is that it just exposes you to a dozen or so different styles, and hopefully you like one or two.
My experience with the body scan is that it is best done guided, at least for the first few years, because you need to be walked through your blind spots.
Now if only we could stop ex-christians from flocking to the nearest pagan/eastern religion and just live the life they have to the fullest just for themselves we'd really be onto something as a species.
Your brain is an electro-chemical machine, it gives of waves and electromagnetic signature. That's your soul. Upon death if we captures that signature and held it in a containment field (like soul in a can) you could then disgard it because its useless.
I don't hate on people wanting to believe in something, but people need to stop believing in scams in general. If you wanna believe in Jesus Christ, that's fine, just don't think you're obligated to give your money to a church that says it's helping the poor when 90% of donations go to keeping the building and pastor in good condition. The fucking gall of a pastor driving a Lexus and having a boat while even a single member of the church is poor is a fucking spit in the face.
No it's not okay to believe in Jesus Christ. He didn't die for your sins, the earliest writings about him are from decades after his death. There were never 500 witnesses only the claim of 500 witnesses.
We need to be focused only on things that are actually true. Lies like religion are what lead to America becoming the failed Christofascist state it is.
A Christian Mindset is nothing but delusion and delusion should not be condoned or encouraged.
Magick AFAIK come from Wicca, it's actually a very nice religion and there is not even a centralized entity, heck, the religion itself does not even claim to be the right one but that every religion (wicca included) is a human interpretation of some high power
"I really like you, but you and your family are religiously insane so I think we should see other people. I'm gonna try to see someone with a grip on reality, and you should try to see a professional"
This is not unusual in my opinion. In my childhood, I attended Catholic, Baptist, and Assembly of God churches, and this would not have raised any eyebrows. Especially with Assembly of God.
If the people only knew what they are supporting with their tax dollars (in USA, churches pay no taxes)! It's obscene and frankly ridiculous. The farther you go in the church, the crazier things are.
And make no mistake, they will kill you. The best part of adulthood for me was getting out of the church, as a kid I was horrified every day with these absolute lunatics.
My sister got involved in a Pentecostal church and I became fascinated by speaking in tongues. It was such obvious bullshit, and she could never explain it ("The pastor says it's the divine spirit, bla bla bla..."). So I looked it up.
In the Bible "speaking in tongues" was like a universal translator. The Christians were preaching to a multilingual crowd. There was a mighty wind (lol) and flames appeared over the preachers' heads.
From Acts: "And at this sound the multitude came together, and they were bewildered, because each one was hearing them speak in his own language."
But now because this is a fairy tale that didn't happen, it's morphed into gabbling nonsense that no-one understands.
My mom recently changed to a non-denominational church because the local Assembly of God (the church she raised me in) is somehow getting it wrong.
Her new pastor has a degree from Liberty University. I am intimately familiar with the teachings of the A/G. I honestly don't even want to know what the new church is telling her.
Ironically, I went to Assembly of God school, which definitely impacted me and resulted in my atheism.
Also, my relatives were Baptist and totally wacko for Jerry Falwell, who founded Liberty.
They don't speak in tongues, but they do share a lot with Assembly of God, like their Apocalyptic obsession. My family was positive they were going to be swept up into Heaven by angels while the Jesus army murders everybody. Should be pretty cool.
Fake: Anon has gf
Gay: Convoluted break-up fantasy to explain why he can't get with girls integrates his actual religious trauma from his own homophobic fundy household growing up
I dated a religious girl for three years. Her mom was a pastor at a small church. She was a regular practicing Christian. Definitely had some habits and customs I wasn't used to. I mostly just nodded along and was polite.
Never really caused us problems long term. We ended up breaking up after our jobs pulled us in different directions. We're still good friends and we regularly keep in touch.
Someone claiming to have a GF on 4chan - especially in 2026 - is extremely sus. Sounds fake and/or gay to me. Don't take it too seriously.
It's a spectrum. Yeah most are normies but in the bible belt and suicide belt regions of the US you get some certified wackjobs who think every obvious fuckup is a "supernatural attack".
in the bible belt and suicide belt regions of the US you get some certified wackjobs
Some of the most certifiable radicals I've had the dubious honor of meeting were in California and NY. The center of the county has it's share, but for the most part it's just background noise. You listen to church radio because it's what's on. You celebrate Christmas because the city puts up a big tree and throws some public parties.
People can be superstitious with or without a formal religious membership. And they can be Christian outside of the red states.
So does mine, but you have to take into account where you live. Are Christian people psychos there or is it an industrialized (agricultural) area where Christianity is being used to pacify all the social psychosis that comes with poverty, unusable healthcare, and drug addiction. Do all Christians want war in the middle east or do you live in a town with a military base that desperately needs to meet recruitment quotas.
You'll find when you get out of those areas there are Christians that are less psycho than thinking dehydration was the devil messing with them and also some who are far worse.
Hmm i don't think demons would attack the most favoured by God. Or rather, not in that way - demons are supposed to be packaged up with every time that YOU sin, they can't just randomly go "TURN EVIL! TURN EVIL! TURN EVIL!"
Honestly this is it. It's why it's so stabilizing especially to a medium sized community (too small you get cults, too big you get institutionalization). Everybody agreeing to be weird in a specific way at a specific time at regular intervals has a lot of benefits, literal health benefits even. You definitely get some real fucked up outlier behavior but religion doesn't have widespread staying power throughout generations for no reason.
Pretty much. People attempting to drive others to atheism when they should be driving people to be less dickish is the most common goof I’ve found. Some people need an ethos and religion helps.
The problem with conglomerating your craziness is that whatever it conglomerates around becomes socially and politically powerful, and whatever ethos it offers tends to be deeply flawed. For jumped up apes trying to function at a higher level, self reflection and the capacity to question your delusions are essential skills, but these are anathema to religion. The belief system must protect and promote itself. So instead you end up supporting a bunch of pedophiles who want to fuck up the entire world, and getting all giddy about the mess you're making because you just can't wait for Jebus to come back and fix everything. So while I'm not really disputing the social and mental health benefits of religion at an individual scale, we're currently experiencing the worldwide political and environmental consequences of large scale, organized, delusional thinking, and it isn't pretty. At least if we could all agree that when you join a religion you give up your right to vote, it wouldn't be so bad.
It seems more like an issue with systems of power without proper maintenance cycles, rather than an issue of lined up delusions. The monarchy functioned reasonably well up until it didn’t, democracy functions reasonably well up until it doesn’t, central planning functions reasonably well until it doesn't, etc..
Without giving systems of power a proper scrub, they fester, always. Almost exclusively because of gradual entrenchment of third party interests, which is the natural state of sociopolitical systems, unfortunately.
Really Christian person refuses aid during a flood, stating that god would save them. They then die and ask god why their salvation wasn't enough to save them. God tells them that they sent the rescuers, which the drowning man turned down.
I'll add to the other reply. The moral of the story is that God helps those who helps themselves. This is why I thought you were being funny, because if you were helping yourself, then you would look it up.
It's not that life is suffering it's that God puts challenges in a Christian's life to test their faith, the more challenges the more holy they are. They also teach that the unholy would persecute them out of "jealousy"
It's why the Christofascists WANT to be persecuted. It validates their delusions.
No, that's Buddhism. Christians like to make other people suffer. Ideally immigrants, minorities and queers, but they will settle for anyone. Their own children usually.
Oh, it's too late for Anon. If he tries to leave her, the family will consider it a demon attack, and surround them both until they fuck in front of them. Then it'll be brought up every thanksgiving.
But does she think her parents are nut jobs, it would be a rare family whose child completely agrees with the views of the parent especially when the views of the parent are so, er, disconnected from reality.
plenty of people think their parents are nut jobs, and plenty of them don't and think their parents are flawless gods.
IME that correlates highly with basically how adult/independent you are from your folks. some folks never leave the nest their entire lives, at least emotionally and often financially. blows my mind how many 30/40 something ladies I meet... who are still 'daddy's little girl'. I'm sure there are plenty of dudes like that too.
my folks basically cut me off after college, but also I thought they were nut jobs when I was like 5 years old, because they are. they had all sorts of weird, delusional, and stupid beliefs, and had nothing to do with religion... they were just average americans.
Just tell her that her family believes in stupid magic bullshit. No need to sugar-coat anything with these people. Remember that they vote to take away your freedom every chance they get.
Start wearing black clothes, pentagrams, spread some ketchup.
Extreme (only fair) version. Spread ketchup on palms, bring magnetic nails, make some make up, pretend to be jesus and ask them for money, all the money. Disappear for 3 days, then send small text You're ok, alive and have things to do.
It was called Missionary Dating when I was growing up in an incredibly religious family. The goal was to date a non-christian so you could convert them. Then you would be "equally yoked" before you got hitched. No joke.
Yeah, that's stupid and wasting time. I wouldn't say it's sinful to date non Christians, but it's definitely sinful to marry them. Therefore missionary dating is a gamble. Ironically, I have heard of guys who converted, and the first time they went to Church was because they knew a girl they had a crush on had the requirement that they were Christians, so they gave it a chance. But they weren't missionary dating, it was moreso them being led into church by having a crush on a parishoner, lol.
Christians also aren't supposed to engage in fornication, so you know. Expecting Christians in Western countries (don't know about elsewhere) to follow their religion is generally futile.
But the vast majority of Christians (again, in Western countries) don't do that, and I strongly doubt OOP's girlfriend is the exception. So my point is: That ship has kind of sailed.
I wouldn't say the vast majority. I know people have failed a lot, and I get that, but it's not an impossible task. It's even easier whenever both of you believe that you should save yourself for marriage. Far easier than dating a non Christian who'd likely be expecting sex before marriage.
Christians shouldn't do a lot of things that they do. The worst part about it is that they still insist that they are morally superior to everyone around them, because God said so.
Tragically, they believe that the Magic Bird gives them superior wisdom and intellect to the secular. This makes them especially stupid and hypocritical.
God doesn't say Christians are morally superior, Christians are sinful like everybody else. Many Christians are worse people than some atheists. It's not about works. It's a difficult world, I understand that. If you fail, you pick up your cross and keep moving forward. It happens. We all sin. We should try and avoid it, but we know we can't. That's why Jesus died for us.
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zaphod@sopuli.xyz · 220 pts · 30d
When Anon breaks up with her they will claim he was a demon sent to test their faith.
VaalaVasaVarde@sopuli.xyz · 176 pts · 30d
There's only one way: Anon should simulate fainting like the mom and then explain that god told them they have to break up.
VitoRobles@lemmy.today · 116 pts · 30d
Nothing pisses religious nutjobs more than telling them that God spoke to you and said you were holier than they are.
agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works · 20 pts · 30d
"You guys need a priest to tell you what God wants? Why, he doesn't check in with you personally? What did you do to piss him off?"
acockworkorange@mander.xyz · 3 pts · 28d
You nailed him to what? And you wear the instrument of his torture?!
Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it · 1 pts · 22d
Wait wait, i might actually use that to piss off some people lol
frog@feddit.uk · 28 pts · 30d
Speak it in Latin and claim you don't know what Latin even is. Then use Google Translate like some time later and tell her.
If she ask any questions just say the usual, "God works in mysterious ways", "maybe this is a test from God like in the book of Job", or "are you questioning my faith or yours?"
QueenHawlSera@sh.itjust.works · 9 pts · 30d
Babble nonsense. They call it "speaking in tongues" and think it's super legit
echodot@feddit.uk · 1 pts · 28d
Just write down some basic algebra and they'll probably think it's a demonic spell.
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 16 pts · 30d
I'd wake up and say "God says that he's pissed that you keep doing dangerous stuff, and expecting Him to pull your sorry asses out of the fire. He says it ends now, and you're on your own. If you pass out in the hot summer sun, you're going to die, and your constant annoyances mean that your place in heaven is not secure. He's not real thrilled about have to live in close proximity, whee you'll be dropping by every day for coffee. He thinks Satan ought be able to settle y'all down a bit. Just something to think about...oh yeah, Sweetie? We're over. Bye!"
JackbyDev@programming.dev · 5 pts · 30d
"I think the demon attached itself from you. If God favored you then He'd protect you from them, I think someone in your family is harboring a Dark Presence. We're unequally yoked."
chronicledmonocle@lemmy.world · 112 pts · 30d
As someone who grew up in a conservative, Baptist home, I can tell you that this 100% isn't the most insane thing I've heard or seen, but it falls right in line.
bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works · 32 pts · 30d
Insane how grown ass adults believe in absolute fairy tales written by the rich/kings to keep the lower classes subservient. In 2026.
I'd love to ask someone in the 1940s what they'd think of 2026. I bet they'd think we were all living on other planets and half cyborg by now. But nah. Trillionaires.
paranoia@feddit.dk · 10 pts · 30d
I feel like a trillionaire in 2026 would not be that surprising to someone from the 1940s, considering they had billionaires back then too.
bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 30d
Right. But I'm not sure they'd think this much wealth disparity would still exist with all the technology.
Phantaloons@piefed.zip · 23 pts · 30d
My cousin wouldn't let his daughter watch Wicked because they whisper a spell during the movie.
I literally asked "Are you fucking serious?"
The query went right by his perception of me questioning his sanity as if I was making a remark in regards to the film itself.
"r-right."
chronicledmonocle@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 30d
My parents nearly didn't let me read or watch Harry Potter "cuz witchcraft". There is a lot of stupid out there.
nickiwest@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 30d
My step-siblings were not allowed to watch or play Pokemon in the late '90s because "they are demons that people catch and carry around with them."
QueenHawlSera@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 30d
I heard about how Pokemon say their names because they are demons and repeating their names increases their power in the world because you summon demons by chanting their names and playing drums.
nickiwest@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 28d
BRB, going to buy a drum and try this for myself.
QueenHawlSera@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 27d
Seriously, a lot of southern churches have this thing about drums because they believe some conspiracy theory that African Religion is actually "Demons!" and that they used drums to summon the demons.. And that rock music is bad because it uses drums, which summon demons.
It's stupid and racist
Phantaloons@piefed.zip · 10 pts · 30d
Yep. My mom is the last thing I hold any level of doubt for. I let her have her Christian thises and thats and I indulge her just enough to keep her happy. She was and is a great, loving mother who deserves to go out comfortably, and I'm seeing to it.
.. but the very week she's gone, the filter is off and is never going back on. No one else deserves it and it literally sucks the life out of me to nod along to someone else's insanity when they're around. It's draining.
I have to wash off with NetGeo documentaries, Nova episodes and Twain essays after every visit.
JackbyDev@programming.dev · 3 pts · 30d
I think my father in law still believes Hurricane Katrina was a punishment to the people of New Orleans from God Himself. I've never heard him say similar things about other natural disasters though.
chronicledmonocle@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 30d
My parents told me that the Clinton's, Gates family, and other influential people go to masquerade parties where they murder babies and wear their skin as masks. And they were 100% serious.
In the world of Epstein Island revelations, there is some fucked up stuff out there, but I'm pretty sure we'd know if people were mass slaughtering babies for fun.
JackbyDev@programming.dev · 4 pts · 30d
This is what gets me. We have proof billionaires have a secret child sex club. That's not even a conspiracy theory anymore. But why do people still feel the need to endlessly speculate and wonder if it's "actually something worse?" I do not understand the conspiratorially minded. Like I legit saw someone say in response to the first Esptein file releases say "what is this supposed to be distracting us from?" Like... HUHHH??? This is your HOLY GRAIL! The thing you e always wanted! Hard proof that the elite have a secret child sex club and you're reaction is "seems fake, what are they really hiding." Blows my mind.
Also, you is directed at the person I was talking about, not you you. In case this comes across as accusatory.
chronicledmonocle@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 30d
Yeah it's actually incredible the mental gymnastics involved.
It's also fun when a Republican is involved, because it's "clearly overblown or fake", but when it's someone they don't like (usually a Democrat), THEN it's a problem.
Gloomy@mander.xyz · 1 pts · 29d
What would that be then?
chronicledmonocle@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 29d
I have a few:
My parents are estranged now. You can imagine why.
psycho_driver@lemmy.world · 103 pts · 30d
Tell her you're a demon sent to attack her vagina.
agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 30d
Then you'll have to face off against Pillowpants, and I didn't think you're ready for that
M137@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 30d
Man this made me laugh, thank you!
ZombieCyborgFromOuterSpace@piefed.ca · 93 pts · 30d
"Listen, your mon had a heatstroke. This isn't a demonic attack. It's common knowledge that this happens when doing hard work in extreme heat. I can't be with someone who's family believes that demons are behind common medical conditions. In other words: your family is insane and I can't date you anymore. Bye"
bedwyr@piefed.ca · 17 pts · 30d
How dare you sir, don't deny my faith! /s
ZombieCyborgFromOuterSpace@piefed.ca · 8 pts · 30d
"I'm not denying you faith. Go be crazy. I don't care. I just don't want to deal with it. "
Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world · 83 pts · 30d
I'd probably talk to the girl and see if she holds the same beliefs. She's Christian, yes, but there are plenty of people raised in such families that use the term out of familiarity, but don't share the extreme views of their parents.
Though with that said, even if the girl isn't off the deep end, I'd understand that having her parents as potential in-laws could be a bridge too far.
Mikina@programming.dev · 56 pts · 30d
I remember playing this 3 day LARP, the kind with pre-written in-depth characters and story that is played over 3 days strait in characeter, in Wierd Wild West setting, where I played a Trapper that was about to marry someone from the local village, my family was married into but my parents died shortly after.
It eventually turned out that the whole village is a cult that eats people to keep some kind of evil imprisoned, and my fiance's family is the one spiritually leading it, and I still can't forget the nights spent trying to reasonably argue and discuss with my fiance that it's definitely not ok and we should just leave.
I obviously never had to have discussions like this in real life, but it was pretty interesting how extremely futile it is. They have so many arguments you can't say anything against. Once they start with "But this is our purpose given to us by God, if we don't do this the whole world will end", or "It was God's will, you will understand soon", you really don't have much to say to that to get through.
Of course, it was just a LARP and she played her character well, but now I can pretty vividly imagine that talking to someone who's so much into anything like that is extremely difficult, to the point of being futile.
(I managed to convince her to leave, the winning argument was "Your grandmother tried to poison me, here is proof", lol).
rumschlumpel@feddit.org · 25 pts · 30d
The thing with RPG worlds is, when the characters are saying these kinds of things there's a good chance that this is actually and demonstrably how that RPG world works and they're not just a bunch of grifters.
Mikina@programming.dev · 17 pts · 30d
Oh, it was definitely how that world worked, and she played that role really well.
But, the experience (especially in multi-day nonstop LARPs, where you immerse into the world and your character really extensively) is pretty indistinguishable from real-life. At least in how you perceive it. For the few days, your life has these problems now. And you just accept it and get into it, and don't even consider a difference between real and "imaginary" problems. It's hard to describe, tbh.
I was not trying to imply that any of the involved people were grifters, I was mostly talking about the experience of being in a situation like that, where you have to actually talk to someone like that. I'm pretty sure that there wouldn't be much of a difference between talking to someone who can roleplay well and has spend two days in their character, vs. talking to someone who spent most of their life being indoctrinated like this.
Or rather, the problem-solving part of it. I had literal days in that world to figure out how to approach this, what to say so it would work in that situation, how to argue with her. I didn't come up with anything that would work, and things that I came up with were swiftly rebated by fanatic religious speeches. Just like she had a pretty easy time of coming up with arguments I couldn't say much against, that would still be perfectly in-character, as she told me after the LARP.
EDIT: I may have misunderstood your comment, sorry :D. Yes, you are right, it was how the world worked - we did eventually all died because some kind of evil has been awakened, lol. But that doesn't change anything about the experience of having to argue with someone who's indoctrinated in a cult vs. you, who don't believe in stuff like that. It's difficult. From my point of view, they were grifters, because I had no indication of proof of what they are saying, so I did my best to figure out what to do or say, and I couldn't come up with anything.
captainlezbian@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 30d
Dammit you're making me kinda want to try larping
Mikina@programming.dev · 3 pts · 29d
I highly recommend it, especially the kind where you have a pre-written set of characters and story with semi-scripted events, instead of just being "bring your own character" (not sure how is this kind of LARP called). It's such a different experience, because every character has a purpose, has as lot of conflicts, and everything is made to just work.
For example, one of the best LARPs we had here was a Disco Elysium inspired one, and it's just such a cool experience.
But be careful, there is a reason why people compare this kind of LARPing to heroin :D You will probably emotionally crash out after it ends, just like it is pretty addicting.
rumschlumpel@feddit.org · 1 pts · 30d
I mean, it's pretty different if what the weird cult claims could be true, i.e. gods and evil demons do exist in general. In the real world, you pretty much know that's it's all fake, the only remaining question is whether the person you're talking to believes it or is in on the grift (it's often kind of both, but I still think that the pure grifters have a different quality than the more standard religious/cult leaders who truly believe (most of) their self-serving drivel).
Tylerdurdon@lemmy.world · 47 pts · 30d
Everyone is going with the satanism or whatever non-Christian antics they are coming up with.
That's too easy.
Study some Bible verses and understand the tenents of the religion. Learn enough about the family to find something you can use. Then break up with her by saying her family are heretics and state that reason. Tell her they're all going to hell and close the door tight. Never talk to her again.
Padit@feddit.org · 13 pts · 30d
It schisma time!!!!!!!
MrShankles@reddthat.com · 5 pts · 30d
You get it. Insidious "mustard seeds", if so needed. You can't always logic someone quickly, it takes a lot of time to even consider changing any core beliefs. But I really value my time. So it's either worth it, or I'm taking the path of least resistance... aka, "your family's the devil and you didn't even know. Sorry, God certainly loves YOU though. And maybe we woulda worked in a different life, but until then; bye and god bless"
supernicepojo@lemmy.world · 43 pts · 30d
Get on floor, walk the dinosaur
abbadon420@sh.itjust.works · 18 pts · 30d
They don't believe in dinosaurs though.
kat_angstrom@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 30d
Get on the floor, walk the demonsaur
mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 30d
Heathens
Sharkticon@lemmy.zip · 41 pts · 30d
I was once invited to a pool party by a girl back when I was a freshman at college. When I got there they were baptizing people.
There was free food though so I stuck around.
Knightfox@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 30d
Freshmen year of college is all about maximizing the amount of free stuff you can get, especially food.
ferrule@sh.itjust.works · 37 pts · 30d
Oddly, the two super churchy women I've "been with" ended up leaving the church afterwards. Maybe OP should do a little 🫰🤌🤏 to her 🍑 and see what happens.
SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml · 13 pts · 30d
This dude knows how to do it
NikkiDimes@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 30d
God, emoji are so tainted. Before reading this comment, I thought it was going to be AI slop...
ferrule@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 30d
I might be a brain in a vat, but I know how to make a woman cry out to God with just my fingers...and then they deconvert.
QueenHawlSera@sh.itjust.works · 37 pts · 30d
Any adult who believes in Magick, God, angels, or demons has growing up to do.
Kolanaki@pawb.social · 34 pts · 30d
I didn't believe in demons until 2016 and one was elected to be president of the US.
Knightfox@lemmy.world · 26 pts · 30d
Unfortunately we don't need demons, humans are bad enough as is.
Knightfox@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 30d
Genuine question, no judgement, but why did you spell it Magick in this instance?
QueenHawlSera@sh.itjust.works · 29 pts · 30d
I used to be spiritual and got used to spelling it with a K.
I realized it was all bullshit. I thought I knew sacred knowledge and that the spells weren't working because I wasn't good enough...
I realized I'd never be good enough and that the guy who was teaching me magic was using it as an excuse to get high (he claimed we were doing sacred rituals that increases our magic power.... we were fucking drinking DXM)
Knightfox@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 30d
Wow, totally not where I was expecting that response to go. Super cool, you basically had the pagan version of a christian to non-christian realization. Wild!
QueenHawlSera@sh.itjust.works · 9 pts · 30d
I tried Buddhism for awhile only to realize that's bullshit too.
Don't believe the people who are all "Oh it's just atheism but you meditate."
Now there's a rich theology with ghosts and heaven realms..
Meditation straight up doesn't work as anything other than a breathing exercise. I saw no visions
Thought I remembered a past life but I'm pretty sure I made it up because I saw it from a third person perspective. I "remembered" being a Latina prostitute who sold drugs at an arcade
Knightfox@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 30d
Ironically, that's a super Buddhist statement. The idea that you would go do a Buddhist meditation with the expectation of gaining something from it is antithetical to what Buddhism is about. I'm not a Buddhist, I don't meditate, but I remember going to a session with my significant other and a bunch of people were like, "how many sessions of this do I have to do before I start getting the effects (depression getting better, anger issues, etc)." They completely missed the point that the whole thing is about self-reflection, or as you said, a breathing exercise.
If you're a mindful and competent person then you probably aren't gaining much from guided meditation. If you're struggling with some stuff then taking 30 min of dedicated time to work through it is probably a good thing. If you're a certain type of Neurodivergent and have trouble focusing, then it's probably something you could do every day.
More importantly, if you're a 3rd century AD monk who has a ton of time on their hands, it's probably not a bad way to spend your time (other spiritual/religious groups would do the same praying)
Buddahriffic@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 29d
Enlightenment is just realizing truths that go against assumptions that get programmed into us by the way we are raised into society. Meditation, I think, is a way to think neutrally about things, which can make it easier to realize those truths, because we can have a lot of emotional attachment to the untruths they replace.
I don't really meditate myself (hence the "I think") though psychedelics might have helped prime me for several enlightenments (it's not just one thing). Enlightenment doesn't really solve any life problems but make it way easier to navigate life emotionally by adjusting expectations and entitlements.
I suspect the mysticism added on to Buddhism was intended to address the existential dread about the certainty of death (the reincarnation stuff) as well as try to temper those that realize nothing is really stopping them from doing whatever the fuck they want to others if they either have the power for it or don't care about what happens to themselves afterwards (the karma stuff).
Personally, I separate the mysticism from the philosophy, where I consider the latter very useful for living a happy or at least content life and the former fun to think about, probably wishful thinking, but no real way to know unless there is something after death.
eestileib@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 29d
My experience from taking the MBSR was that the match of meditation techniques to practitioner was wildly idiosyncratic.
I think the best thing about that class is that it just exposes you to a dozen or so different styles, and hopefully you like one or two.
My experience with the body scan is that it is best done guided, at least for the first few years, because you need to be walked through your blind spots.
Leviathan@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 30d
Now if only we could stop ex-christians from flocking to the nearest pagan/eastern religion and just live the life they have to the fullest just for themselves we'd really be onto something as a species.
QueenHawlSera@sh.itjust.works · 8 pts · 30d
New Age Spirituality is a trap. People think they can get spiritual benefits or embrace a supernatural world if they do it the right way.
The truth is there's no magic. You don't have a soul, the entire concept of souls is utterly disproven by neurology.
This is the only life you have, you aren't gonna die only to wake up in the astral plane with super powers and a spirit guide.
Just give up on faith. The whole damn thing is a trap designed by charlatans to steal your money and waste your time.
BCsven@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 29d
Your brain is an electro-chemical machine, it gives of waves and electromagnetic signature. That's your soul. Upon death if we captures that signature and held it in a containment field (like soul in a can) you could then disgard it because its useless.
Knightfox@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 30d
Preach!
I don't hate on people wanting to believe in something, but people need to stop believing in scams in general. If you wanna believe in Jesus Christ, that's fine, just don't think you're obligated to give your money to a church that says it's helping the poor when 90% of donations go to keeping the building and pastor in good condition. The fucking gall of a pastor driving a Lexus and having a boat while even a single member of the church is poor is a fucking spit in the face.
QueenHawlSera@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 30d
No it's not okay to believe in Jesus Christ. He didn't die for your sins, the earliest writings about him are from decades after his death. There were never 500 witnesses only the claim of 500 witnesses.
We need to be focused only on things that are actually true. Lies like religion are what lead to America becoming the failed Christofascist state it is.
A Christian Mindset is nothing but delusion and delusion should not be condoned or encouraged.
iocase@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 29d
This comment could be written in any human language, but with local specific drugs, as far back as humans existed lmao
"Unga said spell make daughter heal. Me know bullshit. Unga just use excuse to eat mushrooms with me."
Also I'm not making fun of you it's just this is human spirituality and has been with us as long as we've had mind altering substances
Madzielle@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 28d
Magnum@infosec.pub · 12 pts · 29d
She's a dev, she's used to https://imagemagick.org/
Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it · 1 pts · 22d
Magick AFAIK come from Wicca, it's actually a very nice religion and there is not even a centralized entity, heck, the religion itself does not even claim to be the right one but that every religion (wicca included) is a human interpretation of some high power
captainlezbian@lemmy.world · 36 pts · 30d
"I really like you, but you and your family are religiously insane so I think we should see other people. I'm gonna try to see someone with a grip on reality, and you should try to see a professional"
Waterpumpee@lemmus.org · 34 pts · 30d
I just asked if she really believes in all this. Answer was not really but you know, family ties and the community is nice.
imetators@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 34 pts · 30d
Fake/gay analysis: true and straight. Source: dated religious girl who's mother was a religious lunatic. Super fucking likely to happen
HugeNerd@lemmy.ca · 8 pts · 30d
*whose
Mulligrubs@lemmy.world · 29 pts · 30d
This is not unusual in my opinion. In my childhood, I attended Catholic, Baptist, and Assembly of God churches, and this would not have raised any eyebrows. Especially with Assembly of God.
If the people only knew what they are supporting with their tax dollars (in USA, churches pay no taxes)! It's obscene and frankly ridiculous. The farther you go in the church, the crazier things are.
And make no mistake, they will kill you. The best part of adulthood for me was getting out of the church, as a kid I was horrified every day with these absolute lunatics.
JDPoZ@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 30d
MrsDoyle@sh.itjust.works · 9 pts · 29d
My sister got involved in a Pentecostal church and I became fascinated by speaking in tongues. It was such obvious bullshit, and she could never explain it ("The pastor says it's the divine spirit, bla bla bla..."). So I looked it up.
In the Bible "speaking in tongues" was like a universal translator. The Christians were preaching to a multilingual crowd. There was a mighty wind (lol) and flames appeared over the preachers' heads.
From Acts: "And at this sound the multitude came together, and they were bewildered, because each one was hearing them speak in his own language."
But now because this is a fairy tale that didn't happen, it's morphed into gabbling nonsense that no-one understands.
nickiwest@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 30d
My mom recently changed to a non-denominational church because the local Assembly of God (the church she raised me in) is somehow getting it wrong.
Her new pastor has a degree from Liberty University. I am intimately familiar with the teachings of the A/G. I honestly don't even want to know what the new church is telling her.
Mulligrubs@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 30d
Speaking in tongues was a source of constant amusement for me, and probably the only thing I enjoyed about the church. "Shambala lala guu!"
Then, someone else used their Magic Bird powers to "translate".
vantablack@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 29d
speaking in tongues is just christian keysmashing
QueenHawlSera@sh.itjust.works · 9 pts · 30d
Republicans claim public school teaches our kids to be atheists. That would be so based if it were true.
Children should be taught faerie tales are fiction.
Mulligrubs@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 30d
Ironically, I went to Assembly of God school, which definitely impacted me and resulted in my atheism.
Also, my relatives were Baptist and totally wacko for Jerry Falwell, who founded Liberty.
They don't speak in tongues, but they do share a lot with Assembly of God, like their Apocalyptic obsession. My family was positive they were going to be swept up into Heaven by angels while the Jesus army murders everybody. Should be pretty cool.
rizzothesmall@sh.itjust.works · 28 pts · 30d
My master, Satan, says we should have premarital sex immediately
It's a win either way
deathbird@mander.xyz · 24 pts · 29d
Fake: Anon has gf Gay: Convoluted break-up fantasy to explain why he can't get with girls integrates his actual religious trauma from his own homophobic fundy household growing up
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 30d
I dated a religious girl for three years. Her mom was a pastor at a small church. She was a regular practicing Christian. Definitely had some habits and customs I wasn't used to. I mostly just nodded along and was polite.
Never really caused us problems long term. We ended up breaking up after our jobs pulled us in different directions. We're still good friends and we regularly keep in touch.
Someone claiming to have a GF on 4chan - especially in 2026 - is extremely sus. Sounds fake and/or gay to me. Don't take it too seriously.
DeepDown@leminal.space · 14 pts · 30d
It's a spectrum. Yeah most are normies but in the bible belt and suicide belt regions of the US you get some certified wackjobs who think every obvious fuckup is a "supernatural attack".
Don't ask who I'm quoting that phrase from.
MBech@feddit.dk · 4 pts · 30d
Who are you quoting that phrase from?
DeepDown@leminal.space · 3 pts · 30d
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 30d
Some of the most certifiable radicals I've had the dubious honor of meeting were in California and NY. The center of the county has it's share, but for the most part it's just background noise. You listen to church radio because it's what's on. You celebrate Christmas because the city puts up a big tree and throws some public parties.
People can be superstitious with or without a formal religious membership. And they can be Christian outside of the red states.
Mulligrubs@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 30d
Most are normies? I'll need some kind of source for that, my life experience says otherwise.
DeepDown@leminal.space · 4 pts · 30d
So does mine, but you have to take into account where you live. Are Christian people psychos there or is it an industrialized (agricultural) area where Christianity is being used to pacify all the social psychosis that comes with poverty, unusable healthcare, and drug addiction. Do all Christians want war in the middle east or do you live in a town with a military base that desperately needs to meet recruitment quotas.
You'll find when you get out of those areas there are Christians that are less psycho than thinking dehydration was the devil messing with them and also some who are far worse.
carrylex@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 30d
Claming demonic attacks without the popes approval? Well that's sounds like a reason for a excommunication...
Etterra@discuss.online · 19 pts · 30d
They're probably not Catholic. This is peak American evangelical crazy right here.
FinjaminPoach@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 30d
Hmm i don't think demons would attack the most favoured by God. Or rather, not in that way - demons are supposed to be packaged up with every time that YOU sin, they can't just randomly go "TURN EVIL! TURN EVIL! TURN EVIL!"
Tyrq@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 12 pts · 30d
They can if you have a persecution fetish
MrSmith@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 29d
Religious people are all nuts, just the degree varies a little bit.
Gullible@sh.itjust.works · 12 pts · 29d
Everyone is nuts. Religious people just far more uniformly
Apytele@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 28d
Honestly this is it. It's why it's so stabilizing especially to a medium sized community (too small you get cults, too big you get institutionalization). Everybody agreeing to be weird in a specific way at a specific time at regular intervals has a lot of benefits, literal health benefits even. You definitely get some real fucked up outlier behavior but religion doesn't have widespread staying power throughout generations for no reason.
Gullible@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 28d
Pretty much. People attempting to drive others to atheism when they should be driving people to be less dickish is the most common goof I’ve found. Some people need an ethos and religion helps.
bampop@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 28d
The problem with conglomerating your craziness is that whatever it conglomerates around becomes socially and politically powerful, and whatever ethos it offers tends to be deeply flawed. For jumped up apes trying to function at a higher level, self reflection and the capacity to question your delusions are essential skills, but these are anathema to religion. The belief system must protect and promote itself. So instead you end up supporting a bunch of pedophiles who want to fuck up the entire world, and getting all giddy about the mess you're making because you just can't wait for Jebus to come back and fix everything. So while I'm not really disputing the social and mental health benefits of religion at an individual scale, we're currently experiencing the worldwide political and environmental consequences of large scale, organized, delusional thinking, and it isn't pretty. At least if we could all agree that when you join a religion you give up your right to vote, it wouldn't be so bad.
Gullible@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 28d
It seems more like an issue with systems of power without proper maintenance cycles, rather than an issue of lined up delusions. The monarchy functioned reasonably well up until it didn’t, democracy functions reasonably well up until it doesn’t, central planning functions reasonably well until it doesn't, etc..
Without giving systems of power a proper scrub, they fester, always. Almost exclusively because of gradual entrenchment of third party interests, which is the natural state of sociopolitical systems, unfortunately.
j5y7@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 27d
Not me. I remembered an umbrella!
Stern@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 29d
She ain't a red flag she a whole chinese military parade.
GraniteM@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 30d
Literally the same interaction between religion and reality as The Spirit Catches You And You Fall Down. Except without the language and cultural discontinuity.
Quexotic@sh.itjust.works · 11 pts · 30d
Anon should just tell the parable of the drowning man and then just say, that's why I'm breaking up with you.
QueenHawlSera@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 30d
What is the parable of the drowning man?
Quexotic@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 30d
Lol. I see what you did there. Very clever.
QueenHawlSera@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 30d
No I'm genuinely asking.
GhostFace@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 29d
I looked it up.
Really Christian person refuses aid during a flood, stating that god would save them. They then die and ask god why their salvation wasn't enough to save them. God tells them that they sent the rescuers, which the drowning man turned down.
Quexotic@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 29d
I'll add to the other reply. The moral of the story is that God helps those who helps themselves. This is why I thought you were being funny, because if you were helping yourself, then you would look it up.
Sorry for the assumption.
NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone · 2 pts · 30d
That he’s breaking up with you.
QueenHawlSera@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 30d
Uhhh okay?
SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml · 8 pts · 30d
Impossible challenge: have a greentext without it being about a 'girl'
Eyekaytee@aussie.zone · 17 pts · 30d
girls are pretty neat tho
Tyrq@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 15 pts · 30d
fake: anon talks to a girl
gay: self explanatory
mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works · 9 pts · 30d
What about a grill?
idiomaddict@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 30d
There’s the one about a fan, but that’s also kind of about a girl
SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 30d
I've heard you can filter with them
mlekar@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 30d
Well … a lot Christians love to suffer. It’s rooted in the faith that life is suffering
QueenHawlSera@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 30d
It's not that life is suffering it's that God puts challenges in a Christian's life to test their faith, the more challenges the more holy they are. They also teach that the unholy would persecute them out of "jealousy"
It's why the Christofascists WANT to be persecuted. It validates their delusions.
luthis@lemmy.nz · 3 pts · 30d
No, that's Buddhism. Christians like to make other people suffer. Ideally immigrants, minorities and queers, but they will settle for anyone. Their own children usually.
Mulligrubs@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 30d
It's Christian, too, as said throughout the Bible. Their relief from suffering is in the afterlife.
Alpha71@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 30d
"thats the devil talkin' "
wrinkledoo@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 29d
Throw a brick out the window and dive after it, never to be seen again.
finallymadeanaccount@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 30d
Oh, it's too late for Anon. If he tries to leave her, the family will consider it a demon attack, and surround them both until they fuck in front of them. Then it'll be brought up every thanksgiving.
BeardededSquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 5 pts · 30d
Tell her because of denomination you cannot agree with her particular dogma.
echodot@feddit.uk · 5 pts · 28d
But does she think her parents are nut jobs, it would be a rare family whose child completely agrees with the views of the parent especially when the views of the parent are so, er, disconnected from reality.
My parents are religious nuts, doesn't mean I am.
TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 28d
plenty of people think their parents are nut jobs, and plenty of them don't and think their parents are flawless gods.
IME that correlates highly with basically how adult/independent you are from your folks. some folks never leave the nest their entire lives, at least emotionally and often financially. blows my mind how many 30/40 something ladies I meet... who are still 'daddy's little girl'. I'm sure there are plenty of dudes like that too.
my folks basically cut me off after college, but also I thought they were nut jobs when I was like 5 years old, because they are. they had all sorts of weird, delusional, and stupid beliefs, and had nothing to do with religion... they were just average americans.
some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org · 4 pts · 30d
Just tell her that her family believes in stupid magic bullshit. No need to sugar-coat anything with these people. Remember that they vote to take away your freedom every chance they get.
greedytacothief@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 30d
Can demons be evil? Like they are fulfilling their purpose given to them by the creator of the universe.
yoriaiko@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 30d
Start wearing black clothes, pentagrams, spread some ketchup.
Extreme (only fair) version. Spread ketchup on palms, bring magnetic nails, make some make up, pretend to be jesus and ask them for money, all the money. Disappear for 3 days, then send small text You're ok, alive and have things to do.
bedwyr@piefed.ca · 1 pts · 30d
Ha ha ha, jesus christ.
Flax_vert@feddit.uk · -19 pts · 30d
Christians shouldn't be dating non Christians
Acid_Burn@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 14 pts · 30d
It was called Missionary Dating when I was growing up in an incredibly religious family. The goal was to date a non-christian so you could convert them. Then you would be "equally yoked" before you got hitched. No joke.
usualsuspect191@lemmy.ca · 6 pts · 30d
Flirt to convert
Flax_vert@feddit.uk · 1 pts · 30d
Waste of time
Mulligrubs@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 30d
Arguing on Lemmy is also a waste of time, that doesn't stop you
Shouldn't you be living like a bird in the field? Birds don't post on Lemmy! Jesus wept
Flax_vert@feddit.uk · 2 pts · 30d
Bird in the field?
Flax_vert@feddit.uk · 0 pts · 30d
Yeah, that's stupid and wasting time. I wouldn't say it's sinful to date non Christians, but it's definitely sinful to marry them. Therefore missionary dating is a gamble. Ironically, I have heard of guys who converted, and the first time they went to Church was because they knew a girl they had a crush on had the requirement that they were Christians, so they gave it a chance. But they weren't missionary dating, it was moreso them being led into church by having a crush on a parishoner, lol.
FinjaminPoach@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 30d
Bell curve meme but it goes from very atheist to very christian rather than low IQ to high IQ
DaddleDew@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 30d
I think the epic Schwarzenegger high five one would be more fitting
NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io · 3 pts · 30d
Christians also aren't supposed to engage in fornication, so you know. Expecting Christians in Western countries (don't know about elsewhere) to follow their religion is generally futile.
Flax_vert@feddit.uk · 1 pts · 30d
It's completely possible to remain chaste until marriage.
NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io · 2 pts · 30d
But the vast majority of Christians (again, in Western countries) don't do that, and I strongly doubt OOP's girlfriend is the exception. So my point is: That ship has kind of sailed.
Flax_vert@feddit.uk · 1 pts · 30d
I wouldn't say the vast majority. I know people have failed a lot, and I get that, but it's not an impossible task. It's even easier whenever both of you believe that you should save yourself for marriage. Far easier than dating a non Christian who'd likely be expecting sex before marriage.
Mulligrubs@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 30d
Christians shouldn't do a lot of things that they do. The worst part about it is that they still insist that they are morally superior to everyone around them, because God said so.
Tragically, they believe that the Magic Bird gives them superior wisdom and intellect to the secular. This makes them especially stupid and hypocritical.
Flax_vert@feddit.uk · 0 pts · 30d
God doesn't say Christians are morally superior, Christians are sinful like everybody else. Many Christians are worse people than some atheists. It's not about works. It's a difficult world, I understand that. If you fail, you pick up your cross and keep moving forward. It happens. We all sin. We should try and avoid it, but we know we can't. That's why Jesus died for us.