Future Problems [Ryan Rds.]

Charisma is selling a fruit salad with tomatoes as "salsa"

Intelligence is knowing Pineapple is a fruit. Wisdom is knowing it belongs on pizza.

Tomatoes do have a wide variety of cultivars, some of which have considerably-higher sugar content.

searches

https://growingfruit.org/t/what-are-the-sweetest-tomatoes-highest-brix-lowest-acid-possible/69110

Many cherry tomatoes can brix between 12 and 16.

https://static1.squarespace.com/static/64b974963cb8f079e9f7c83f/t/652f1cf07f8b2f125c06fd7b/1697586417068/BrixRefractiveIndNologo.jpg

If you've had fresh tomatoes that ripened on the plant you KNOW they can swing both ways.

You say that like I wouldn't eat the fuck out of a fruit salad with good tomatoes

Intelligence is knowing that tomatoes are fruit in the botanical sense, which has no bearing on how they are used in the kitchen and ignores the fact that "vegetable," for instance, doesn't mean anything botanically and so maybe we shouldn't be using botanical terms in the kitchen and going "akshually, tomatoes are a fruit" doesn't make you sound smart, it just makes you sound like a smarmy pedant.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fruit

In common language and culinary usage, fruit normally means the seed-associated fleshy structures (or produce) of plants that are typically sweet (or sour) and edible in the raw state, such as apples, bananas, grapes, lemons, oranges, and strawberries. In botanical usage, the term fruit includes many structures that are not commonly called as such in everyday language, such as nuts, bean pods, corn kernels, tomatoes, and wheat grains.

These are strange times for Fruit club. Strange times...

I thought wheat was a grain?

We don't usually eat the wheat's fruit. Instead we use expensive machines to get every last of it away from the grain.

Going for the ink pun, I see you

Food is mostly made of sugar, complex carbs, fat, and protein. You could probably make a pretty decent printer with a dozen cartridges, and fructose would be a reasonable choice for one of them. The pizza isn't going to taste right without fructose in the tomato sauce.

Yeah it's a joke but I'm getting into multi-material printing and printed food is actually a super interesting application.

I had a feeling this is a USA thing, and lo and behold - congress says pizza and french fries count as vegetables.

Yeah, "vegetables" are not a thing as far as botany is concerned. It is a purely culinary category.

The distinction between botanical and culinary definitions often causes confusion. Botanically, a fruit is defined by its origin as a mature ovary containing seeds, based on anatomical structure and developmental biology.

In contrast, culinary definitions are based on flavor, texture, and how a plant part is typically used in meals. Sweet or tart plant products are generally considered culinary fruits, while savory plant parts are classified as culinary vegetables. This explains why many botanical fruits are commonly treated as culinary vegetables. Tomatoes, for example, are botanical fruits because they develop from a flower’s ovary and contain seeds, but their savory flavor leads them to be used as a vegetable in cooking. Cucumbers, peppers, squash, and eggplants are other botanical fruits frequently used as culinary vegetables.

https://biologyinsights.com/the-botanical-classification-of-fruits/

Strawberries are nuts.

It would be weird if they replaced the tomato for pineapple. That would be one extremely sweet and tart sauce. I'd still try it, but I don't have high hopes.

One of my friends regularly puts banana on pizza

I already have a sweet acidic fruit. Also the short cook of the pizza oven doesn't process the fiber enough for my precious precious tummy. I need the long cook of the, I don't know, throwing the pineapple into the campfire.

Because one is umami heavy and mildly sweet and acidic and the other is heavily sweet and acidic with little if any umami

Uh, because it'd be horrible in many contexts? Replace the tomato in a marinara sauce on meatballs? Ew. Replace them in my tomato and rocket salad? Ew. Etc.

Almost all fruits are vegetables.

A fruit is a specific part of a plant (of which the tomato is that part).

A vegetable is any edible part of a plant.

The character may not know that tomato is a fruit.

His reaction may be genuine, but wrong

How does it look like a vegetable? Looks wise it's closest to maybe an apple.

Now run off and tell everyone that strawberrys aren't berrys, because the seeds arent on the inside.

Maybe they dehydrate and grind everything to powder, then put them in cartridges that dispense to rehydrate them during the print process.

I haven't tried it with many foods, but you can very much get the flavor doing such. Texture is usually the issue but 3d printing must already be compensating for texture somehow

Wikipedia says Dutch police who tracked down counterfeit money, which became public knowledge. It's crazy stuff.

Originally? Meaning decades ago when they first started doing this, it was probably discovered through a patent search.

Do you mean the pepper_oni_? ;) That's what gives the pepperoni salami its name

So satire was probably caught again by reality...

According to botanical definitions, yes, because botany does not know the category of a "vegetable". Culinarily, though, these are most definitely vegetables.