I use Doom Emacs, so we're both in glass houses here. I love Lua because it's fast as fuck, but it's militantly imperative, which is a big bummer. In comparison, Lisp still has a lot to teach a novice-ish programmer. Fennel is the best of both worlds, I guess.
There's two variants of Debian: Debian, and "damn, this distro is not as flexible as I'd like, I guess I should have just installed Debian in the first place".
Understood. Only thing I could think of is that interpreted my make menu_config line as referencing linux from scratch.
Fun fact: In the 90s, everyone had to compile a kernel using menu_config or menuconfig configurator. It didn't matter if you ran red hat or slackware or debian, they all had you configure your kernel on some form back then.
We would often download the latest kernel overnight from a bbs or mirror site beforehand days before installing because you often needed the latest kernel to get your hardware working.
Anyway, no worries. I was just confused by your response.
Then, if we are to follow that logic of excluding derivatives, then we get NixOS, Arch, LFS, TinyCore Linux, Gentoo, Debian (of course!) and... I give up; what else is out there?
The saddest part on your comment was that Suse was my first distro and it did not register in my mind. As for Fedore, althoug I still insist calling it Red Hat.
I initially typed "Suse and Red Hat" but then I changed it to say Fedora because I wanted to avoid some pedantic comments about "But Red Hat doesn't exist anymore!" or on the opposite extreme, reductive inaccuracies like "But Red Hat is for enterprise!"
In other words, your comment is very valid. I also thought about just saying "RPM-based distros" because your initial list didn't have any.
And I thought about mentioning Mandriva separately, but I know that was originally a Red Hat fork, and also now we're kinda getting into the weeds...
Well you see ubuntu is the same as debian so you shouldn't use debian either, because debian also has canonical's snaps, stance on ai, and advertising in the terminal.
Debian does not have snaps (I suppose you could install snappy, but that is the case for most distributions).
Debian also doesn't have canonical ads in its command outputs.
And debian does nor allow LLM contributions to all its related stuff, i.e. debian packaging, software projects, websites, docs, and communication.
Generally debian is pretty ai-negative where ubuntu is very ai-positive.
So this is continuing the sarcasm because obviously it's all clearly wrong.
Nothing except that the packages are far too old at least in stable, which is not an issue unless you are making your own biased distro tier list. The joke about Debian was that every Debian/Ubuntu based distro is just Debian.
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TheImpressiveX@lemmy.today · 150 pts · 2d
Pyro@programming.dev · 17 pts · 1d
Should've been this meme format
SailorMoss@sh.itjust.works · 7 pts · 1d
Should be...
You're a Linux user, name every distro...
Debian, Arch, Fedora.
programmerlexi@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 1d
Those aren't even close to all.
Here's a couple more i can think of right now (following your pattern of only base distros):
LFS, Chimera, AerynOS, Alpine, Gentoo, Guix, NixOS, Slackware
mecen@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 4h
Void
mecen@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 1d
Fedora, red hat Linux, bazzite, secureblue, rocky Linux, alma Linux, bluefin, nobara, aurora, ultramarine
spicytuna62@lemmy.world · 125 pts · 2d
If you don't like Debian, go fork yourself.
nieceandtows@programming.dev · 69 pts · 1d
You're being a bit unstable right now.
spicytuna62@lemmy.world · 42 pts · 1d
Apologies, friend. It was all mint in good fun.
UpperBroccoli@feddit.org · 102 pts · 1d
diaphragmwp@discuss.tchncs.de · -17 pts · 1d
Congrats for repeating someone else's joke louder
UpperBroccoli@feddit.org · 9 pts · 1d
It is really just about the last panel, but that didn't came without the other three, so...
FarceOfWill@infosec.pub · -2 pts · 1d
Im afraid someone else also posted just that panel hours before you.
Theres no way to win here, accept that today you repeated the joke in a reply and do better tomorrow. We all do it when commenting eventually.
ICastFist@programming.dev · 59 pts · 1d
That was too easy. Name 10 things that cause endless flame wars on linux!
tquid@sh.itjust.works · 21 pts · 1d
Vi/Emacs, and get off my lawn
tal@lemmy.today · 4 pts · 1d
Vi isn't really an operating system.
SlurpingPus@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 20h
Vim: quick and easy
Emacs: properly decent programming language in the configs, supports Vim bindings via Evil, Org-mode as the ultimate notes app
tquid@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 12h
Arguably they're sort of converging with all the nvim stuff out there. I said vi to be cute but I actually use LazyVim
SlurpingPus@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 7h
I use Doom Emacs, so we're both in glass houses here. I love Lua because it's fast as fuck, but it's militantly imperative, which is a big bummer. In comparison, Lisp still has a lot to teach a novice-ish programmer. Fennel is the best of both worlds, I guess.
rozodru@piefed.world · 2 pts · 1d
i'm constantly switching back and forth between them as well as helix. I like them all.
racketlauncher831@lemmy.ml · 13 pts · 1d
Pulseaudio.
Mr Torvalds and his now favourite AI toy.
khanh@lemmy.zip · 7 pts · 1d
GNOME vs. KDE
ruuster13@lemmy.zip · 7 pts · 1d
Pronounced "guh-nome" and "kitty"
ZC3rr0r@piefed.ca · 8 pts · 1d
This comment officer. This is the one that hurt me.
crazyslinkz@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 1d
What about xfce? That's what i run.
khanh@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 1d
it's a solid choice. i respect it.
zerofk@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 1d
Openbox
ICastFist@programming.dev · 2 pts · 1d
Which reminds me of X11 / Wayland
mecen@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 18h
X12
Auth@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 1d
wayland
snaps v flatpak v appimages
tatterdemalion@programming.dev · 5 pts · 1d
Kent Overstreet
Shanmugha@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 1d
Rust
notabot@piefed.social · 2 pts · 1d
Well, congratulations, I guess. I don't think I've felt my blood pressure spike that hard reading the responses to a comment before. Pure ragebating!
Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it · 2 pts · 1d
Ubuntu
laceybeach@piefed.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 12h
I wanted to say that as well, but then I remembered... Ubuntu also comes from Debian!
umbraroze@slrpnk.net · 36 pts · 1d
There's two variants of Debian: Debian, and "damn, this distro is not as flexible as I'd like, I guess I should have just installed Debian in the first place".
angband@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 1d
Yeah, that, ubuntu. Poor choice on my part.
ZombieCyborgFromOuterSpace@piefed.ca · 14 pts · 1d
Arch is also a valid answer, btw.
megopie@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 14 pts · 1d
“Name 3 package managers”
MagicDippyEgg@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 1d
Apt Rpm Pacman
tal@lemmy.today · 9 pts · 1d
Rpm is really more analogous to dpkg. Does the local work, doesn't talk to repositories.
Apt to...not yum anymore. checks Dnf.
I'm not sure which one would properly call a "package manager", the apt/dnf role or the rpm/dpkg role.
jcorvera@quokk.au · 3 pts · 1d
rpm/dpkg is the package format. apt/dnf/zypper is the system that downloads, unarchives, and moves files into place.
tal@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 1d
rpmanddpkgare also programs that are used for a number of local operations.jcorvera@quokk.au · 6 pts · 1d
True. There's... a lot to unpack with this.
Package Management is weird.
vandsjov@feddit.dk · 1 pts · 22h
Can't we just build it into systemd?
naught@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 1d
dnf yay snap flatpak emerge... nix?
scottmeme@sh.itjust.works · 11 pts · 1d
Snap is more of a cancer then package manager
quadrant5835@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 1d
I felt the same way, but have been finding Ubuntu Core to be a nifty OS for running as a VM.
chamomile@piefed.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 1d
zypper
cantstopthesignal@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 1d
The world's oldest profession.
jaybone@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 1d
up2date
libewa@feddit.org · 3 pts · 1d
Nix Lix Guix
Fortatech@gregtech.eu · 4 pts · 1d
Twix
libewa@feddit.org · 2 pts · 1d
snix (rest in piss)
zitrone@europe.pub · 2 pts · 2h
Dix (determinate Nix)
BartyDeCanter@piefed.social · 2 pts · 1d
cargo, pip, npm
...I'll show myself the door.
rumschlumpel@feddit.org · 1 pts · 1d
dpkg apt aptitude
ivanafterall@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 1d
"Don't shoot! I'm a TempleOS user!"
guards throw down their weapons and kneel
tetris11@feddit.uk · 2 pts · 18h
"Don't shoot! I'm a puppy linux user!"
guards are overcome by cuteness
chuckleslord@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 1d
cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone · 9 pts · 18h
don't shoot i'm a linux user
prove it name ten distros
idk but i use arch btw
crazyslinkz@lemmy.zip · 9 pts · 1d
Slackware, debian, arch, suse, gentoo, Linux from scratch,...
Damn I'm old.
comador@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 1d
Yeah, I was afraid to respond similarly thinking shit, I'll start naming rare or abandoned distros if I do.
Linux dude since slackware make menu_config;make modules modules_install
crazyslinkz@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 22h
I guess linux from scratch is questionable. But, these aren't abandoned tho, slackware still maintained.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slackware
comador@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 18h
I didn't even mention a single distro and I''m literally using slackware right now, so no idea why you replied like this.
crazyslinkz@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 17h
Apologies misread your comment.
comador@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 16h
Understood. Only thing I could think of is that interpreted my make menu_config line as referencing linux from scratch.
Fun fact: In the 90s, everyone had to compile a kernel using menu_config or menuconfig configurator. It didn't matter if you ran red hat or slackware or debian, they all had you configure your kernel on some form back then.
We would often download the latest kernel overnight from a bbs or mirror site beforehand days before installing because you often needed the latest kernel to get your hardware working.
Anyway, no worries. I was just confused by your response.
zerofk@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 1d
Remember puppy linux sitting on one floppy?
TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 1d
Bazzite, Debian, Linux Mint...Arch.... Ubuntu....
That's five I could think of off top of my head.
I got 50% right, okay!
rob_t_firefly@lemmy.world · 24 pts · 1d
Once you get to Ubuntu, just continue down that rabbit hole of flavors. Kubuntu, Lubuntu, Xubuntu, Bananafanafubuntu, etc...
Funkt4st1c@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 1d
Uwuntu
MsFlammkuchen@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 9 pts · 1d
Hannah Montana Linux
JcbAzPx@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 1d
You've got two so far.
stuner@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 1d
Can you name 10 base/independent distros?
jcorvera@quokk.au · 4 pts · 1d
Debian, OpenSUSE, Fedora, Arch, GuixSD, NixOS, Slack, Gentoo, LFS, and I want to say... Knoppix?
stuner@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1d
Knoppix is a fun one :) Didn't know it was independent.
jcorvera@quokk.au · 2 pts · 23h
It's been a long time, so I could be misremembering.
If that's the case, then Tiny Core or Damn Small to replace it.
stuner@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1d
::: spoiler spoiler Debian, Arch, Fedora, OpenSUSE, NixOS, Slackware, AerynOS, Alpine, Gentoo, LFS :::
Yerbouti@sh.itjust.works · 8 pts · 16h
Ubuntu, Ubuntu Studio, Kubuntu, Ubuntu phone Ubuntu refrigerator, Ubuntu Oven, Ubuntu for dads, Ubuntu for your cousin, Ubuntu with spotify pre-installed, Hannah Montana Linux.
tixnou@feddit.cl · 1 pts · 12h
hell yeah
RustyNova@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 2d
That's only one
pewpew@feddit.it · 21 pts · 1d
There are many Debian based distros, just all the Ubuntu flavors is enough
RustyNova@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 1d
Those are based on Debian. Not Debian. If you ask for a debian and I give you pop_os, you'd probably not like it.
And flavours are flavours, not distro. It's the same distro, just different settings
jaybone@lemmy.zip · 10 pts · 1d
Ok guys. This is the comment chain. Let’s do it. 🍿🗡️⚔️🤺
qyron@sopuli.xyz · 8 pts · 1d
Then, if we are to follow that logic of excluding derivatives, then we get NixOS, Arch, LFS, TinyCore Linux, Gentoo, Debian (of course!) and... I give up; what else is out there?
And I use Debian, just to put it on record.
wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz · 6 pts · 1d
Void, Solus, Exherbo, Suse, Fedora...
qyron@sopuli.xyz · 3 pts · 1d
The saddest part on your comment was that Suse was my first distro and it did not register in my mind. As for Fedore, althoug I still insist calling it Red Hat.
wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 1d
I initially typed "Suse and Red Hat" but then I changed it to say Fedora because I wanted to avoid some pedantic comments about "But Red Hat doesn't exist anymore!" or on the opposite extreme, reductive inaccuracies like "But Red Hat is for enterprise!"
In other words, your comment is very valid. I also thought about just saying "RPM-based distros" because your initial list didn't have any.
And I thought about mentioning Mandriva separately, but I know that was originally a Red Hat fork, and also now we're kinda getting into the weeds...
tal@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 1d
https://github.com/FabioLolix/LinuxTimeline
https://files.catbox.moe/uy9fof.avif
RustyNova@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1d
Oh I don't mean derivatives doesn't count. As their own. I mean when saying "debian" you don't say "Ubuntu". Just say both
INeedANewUserName@piefed.social · 1 pts · 1d
SUSE, RHEL...
jaybone@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 1d
I don’t know what sarcasm is anymore.
qyron@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 1d
Sarcasm died and left it's place to be occupied by literalism. The most ridiculous things have become literal.
sepi@piefed.social · 3 pts · 1d
NO U
tal@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 1d
The term I use is "Debian family", "Red Hat family", etc.
Redjard@reddthat.com · -5 pts · 1d
Well you see ubuntu is the same as debian so you shouldn't use debian because of canonicals snaps, stance on ai, and advertising in the terminal.
NeatNit@discuss.tchncs.de · 2 pts · 1d
This reads as sarcasm but is generally valid points...? I guess that explains why people downvoted it
Redjard@reddthat.com · 9 pts · 1d
It's valid against ubuntu, but I don't see why it would touch debian users?
naught@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 1d
I think maybe you meant "should use Debian"?
Redjard@reddthat.com · 2 pts · 1d
I see that reading now.
Redjard@reddthat.com · 1 pts · 1d
you think
would work?
naught@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 1d
I'm not sure whether you really mean Debian has all those issues or if it's sarcasm, but otherwise it's clearer you're not recommending Debian
Redjard@reddthat.com · 4 pts · 1d
Debian does not have snaps (I suppose you could install snappy, but that is the case for most distributions).
Debian also doesn't have canonical ads in its command outputs.
And debian does nor allow LLM contributions to all its related stuff, i.e. debian packaging, software projects, websites, docs, and communication.
Generally debian is pretty ai-negative where ubuntu is very ai-positive.
So this is continuing the sarcasm because obviously it's all clearly wrong.
Sprocketfree@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 1d
There is only 1 distro. And it's Hannah Montana!
mecen@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 1d
Fedora, red hat Linux, bazzite, secureblue, rocky Linux, alma Linux, bluefin, nobara, aurora, ultramarine
Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it · 2 pts · 1d
Tails, Devuan, Mobian, Kali, Debianissimo, Armbian, Proxmox, Qubes, Raspbian and finally...Debian
Sp00kyB00k@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 22h
Debian, ubuntu, Pop! Os, Arch Linux, Asahi Linux, Fedora, Uwuntu, Hannah Montana Linux, Alpine Linux, Rocky Linux
beejboytyson@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 22h
Hannah Montana Linux is a thing..... man the nerds are funny NGL
purplemonkeymad@programming.dev · 2 pts · 16h
I believe someone is doing a remake with a newer version.
synestia@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 3h
pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 10h
Where is this movie from?
synestia@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 3h
The Pianist
heartSagan5@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 1d
Uh, I guess he was thinking in terms of distros using .DEB packages via APT. Ubuntu, Kali, Debian, and so many alone use DEB packages.
MagicDippyEgg@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 12h
OldChicoAle@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 12h
Hannah Montana Linux #1
DmMacniel@feddit.org · 1 pts · 2d
Well, that's one.
Maxxie@piefed.blahaj.zone · 26 pts · 2d
MX, ubuntu, astra, mint, raspbian, kali, elementary, tails, Q4
or, in short: debian
DmMacniel@feddit.org · 3 pts · 2d
Good.. you may life.
nieceandtows@programming.dev · 3 pts · 1d
You mean ununalive
DmMacniel@feddit.org · 4 pts · 1d
Ununix
ICastFist@programming.dev · 3 pts · 1d
UwUnix
Maxxie@piefed.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 1d
thats nyarch, the only distro rumored to not be based on debian
grrgyle@slrpnk.net · 1 pts · 20h
Fedora would also be acceptable
Emerald@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 18h
Debian arch gentoo ubuntu kde neon zorin opensuse fedora rocky linux centos
i'm in the clear
whyNotSquirrel@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 13h
KDE?
MagicDippyEgg@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 12h
Kde neon That's a distro
Geodes_n_Gems@lemmy.ml · -2 pts · 1d
Mint, Ubuntu, Kali, Arch, Graphene, Nyx, AmogOS (weird but still a distro), Neon, Manjaro, OPENsuse. So I know loads I guess
Also What's wrong with Debian.
ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca · 16 pts · 1d
The joke is that most distros are based on Debian.
Emerald@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 17h
I prefer to just rawdog debian stable
Reygle@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 1d
There's so little wrong with debian that 80% of distros ARE Debian.
KernelTale@programming.dev · 4 pts · 1d
Nothing except that the packages are far too old at least in stable, which is not an issue unless you are making your own biased distro tier list. The joke about Debian was that every Debian/Ubuntu based distro is just Debian.