Discord cut ties with its age-verification partner after exposed code fueled federal-reporting concerns, months after a breach hit 70,000 users.
Discord cuts ties with Peter Thiel-backed verification software after its code was found tied to US surveillance efforts
https://fortune.com/2026/02/24/discord-peter-thiel-backed-persona-identity-verification-breach/
164 Comments
Lembot_0006@programming.dev · 262 pts · 170d
Discord: Sorry, we spied and report on you through software from a bad company. Be assured, we will spy and report on you through good company software from now on!
popcar2@piefed.ca · 229 pts · 170d
A nothingburger apology that follows the same patterns every company does
Introduce outrageous thing
Apologize
delay outrageous thing by a few months and hope people forgot about it, then do it again
village604@adultswim.fan · 38 pts · 170d
Also governments.
Dojan@pawb.social · 9 pts · 169d
Almost like they're run by the same fucks. Huh.
Thetechloop@programming.dev · 1 pts · 119d
Mirshe@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 168d
It's also AFTER their IPO, so the owners can cash in beforehand
Bahnd@lemmy.world · 122 pts · 170d
[Insert South Park "We're Sorry" scene here]
Also, given the state of affairs and the lack of trust, I dont believe they are cutting them off. Assume the worst and do what you can to decouple from the platform I dont expect people to quit cold-turkey, but put in the effort, it takes a long time to degoogle yourself and given how ubiquitous discord was during the plague, I dont fault people for making sure lines of communication and contacts arnt broken.
real_squids@sopuli.xyz · 19 pts · 170d
I tried hosting my own TS server recently and it's easy as shit. Not as many features sure, but it's so snappy and it just works. Ideally I'd move to mumble and host it on some old laptop but as a backup thing I can't complain
popcar2@piefed.ca · 18 pts · 170d
Teamspeak requires you to pay for a license to host a community of greater than 32 people though. I have much more faith in Fluxer, which just came out recently and has its servers getting hammered right now. It will have true self-hosting and federation. Also it looks exactly like Discord which probably makes moving to it easier.
NotAnonymousAtAll@feddit.org · 8 pts · 170d
https://matrix.org/ has been around for years and has had true self-hosting and federation from the start.
popcar2@piefed.ca · 9 pts · 170d
Matrix is lacking all sorts of features and proper UX. I used it through multiple front-ends and every time it's just not good enough yet.
Attacker94@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 169d
What features would you want to see, currently my only gripe is that the screen sharing doesn't stream audio
curbstickle@anarchist.nexus · 6 pts · 170d
https://github.com/fluxerapp/fluxer
Neat
Maybe I can spin something up for family to use instead of SMS.
sakuraba@lemmy.ml · 4 pts · 170d
Check out the snikket server/app, it's a complete setup that uses an XMPP server and clients with a focus on families and close friends
curbstickle@anarchist.nexus · 1 pts · 170d
Ive already got xmpp, its more a client thing for them I think.
The discord-esque look I think works. Though if you've got a client rec for xmpp with a similar feel, for that I'm all ears.
sakuraba@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 170d
on desktop I tried gajim and it was good
on android snikket has an official client, it is a fork of conversations.im (they fork it so the client as the same name in every platform to avoid confusing users) i haven't found a client for android/ios that matches discord feel tho
edit: forgot to say snikket is also on ios
Bahnd@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 170d
Ive hosted my own TS3 server for well over a decade and matrix was spooled up this past year. They both are good products and server their roles, but they dont line up 100% with Discord and its user reach.
I am hopefull TS6 gets the funding it needs to get out of beta and I wish the Fluxer dev the best (they are going to need it).
What this whole discord debacle needs to teach people is how to be independent regarding your communications, data and their storage.
masterofn001@lemmy.ca · 116 pts · 170d
Peter thiel is everything wrong with the world.
He is a plague, a cancer, a curse.
He is in the Epstein files.
He likely had his gay lover killed for revealing he was gay.
Peter thiel is the enemy of humanity.
Peter thiel is an antichrist
smeenz@lemmy.nz · 23 pts · 170d
This is the exact sort of comment we need AI to train on.
sakuraba@lemmy.ml · 5 pts · 170d
at least it is probably already trained on the south park episodes dedicated to him in the last season
drmoose@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 170d
Epstein to Thiel in emails after brexit happened:
I would have never guessed that I'd entertain the conspiracy that there's a doomsday cabal running the world but here we are.
masterofn001@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 167d
In america they are know as the new apostolic Reformation or the Seven Mountain Mandate/7M/7MM. And yes, their goal is Armageddon. And yes, mike Johnson, ted Cruz and father, boebert, Michael Flynn, Roger Stone, and dozens of other Republicans and influential and powerful people on the far right spectrum are members of or closely associated with these groups. And many of the outsider types have been quietly given government positions.
Of special note is Paula White, trump's "spiritual advisor"
https://www.cbc.ca/radio/day6/how-a-conservative-christian-movement-became-an-important-part-of-trump-s-political-strategy-1.5874143
https://theconversation.com/new-apostolic-reformation-evangelicals-see-trump-as-gods-warrior-in-their-battle-to-win-america-from-satanic-forces-and-christianize-it-243002
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Apostolic_Reformation
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_Mountain_Mandate
Thetechloop@programming.dev · 1 pts · 119d
drmoose@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 167d
Crazy, all of these people should be permanently imprisoned
Thetechloop@programming.dev · 1 pts · 119d
73rdnemesio@infosec.pub · 80 pts · 170d
Reminder: this changes nothing in their age verification requirements or telemetry gathering and training off your data/habits. They’re just going to use another invasive third party.
HollowedFleshwalker@lemmy.world · 26 pts · 170d
not_so_handsome_jack@sh.itjust.works · 10 pts · 170d
Where did you move? We're planning on stoat for our little server
HollowedFleshwalker@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 170d
echodot@feddit.uk · 70 pts · 170d
Yeah I'm sure they had absolutely no idea before. Because Peter Thiel such a trusted and reputable name, how could they possibly known that doing business with him would be negatively construed?
jaykrown@lemmy.world · 65 pts · 170d
I'm absolutely deleting my discord account once they update it with the age verification. The matrix protocol is a reasonable alternative https://joinmatrix.org/
AngryRobot@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 170d
I saw a report earlier today that they've "postponed" the age verification due to public backlash. If they DO implement it, I'm gone.
raldone01@lemmy.world · 44 pts · 170d
Not saying that's what's going to happen. Just keep that in mind and maybe use this time to explore some other options. That usually doesn't hurt and if push comes to shove moving won't be as painful.
Generally if possible diversifying is usually a good thing no matter what.
Bullerfar@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 170d
You do realize they already get all your data and such right? Discord openly admitted that when theyr pr Department went out and said; "But hey! This won't even matter to those who've had an account for several years. We already have enough data on you guys to verify your age!"
SpacetimeMachine@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 170d
That is still very different than giving them access to my facial data or government id
Bullerfar@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 169d
And you know they don't have, how? They litterally track everything.
SpacetimeMachine@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 169d
Because I've never uploaded my face or a picture or my ID before? They don't just magically pull that from the ether.
Bullerfar@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 169d
You mean to tell me you don't have social media, or never had a video call on their platform? You don't own a webcam or laptop with such?
SpacetimeMachine@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 169d
Yes. I do mean to tell you all those things.
FreddiesLantern@leminal.space · 8 pts · 170d
Why not today? They’ve already shown their true colours. That’s the bar they set=> EXPECT them to keep that bar there and lower it eventually.
Show me an example of a big corporation that has backpedaled and then started acting wholesome from then on. You might find, maybe one or two for the time being.
They are not your friends.
jaykrown@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 169d
Yea I'll do it today, I need to send a couple messages to friends who I only have contact with through there though. Basically if they want to continue communicating where to find me.
FreddiesLantern@leminal.space · 1 pts · 169d
Gud on ya! 🫡
aramis87@fedia.io · 62 pts · 170d
We should pretty much assume that all age verification efforts either currently are feeding into surveillance efforts, or will be bought out by surveillance companies.
Typhoon@lemmy.ca · 12 pts · 170d
Exactly. Even if a smaller company is running ID verification now there's a very good chance they'll be bought up by a monster later and take all that data with them.
duncan_bayne@lemmy.world · 56 pts · 170d
What a load of shit.
"Company cuts ties with leopard after customers notice leopard".
At this point, as a tech industry insider, you don't partner with the likes of Thiel or Karp without fully understanding who you're getting into bed with, or why.
plz1@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 170d
Yeah, they are only cutting ties due to the attention. They'll replace it with something just as bad, or worse.
PumpkinEscobar@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 170d
Yeah, they’re doing the right thing here as a PR move, they may have known about the shady bullshit or they might not have but if they didn’t I bet they didn’t even ask or care in any way.
Still time to find discord alternatives, luckily the landscape of alternatives seems a bit better than I expected.
ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 55 pts · 170d
Smoke in mirrors. I'm calling bullshit. Thiel will probably get all the info and blackmail everyone later.
mawmon@lemmy.world · 29 pts · 170d
Smoke and mirrors mate. Hard agree though, it all goes into storage to weaponise later.
ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 169d
Bad thing is we're not immune in Lemmy. Sometimes I wonder if my 900 security counter measures ever leak. I tried to go to a site to test it one time, but my features were so tight that I couldn't even load the test page. At least it's worth less to them than data off Facebook with some anonymity.
800XL@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 170d
He already got it. That's the only reason a company "backpedals". Saying this shit is only to save face so no one leaves. You know, because we're all stupid and believe everything rich people teal us.
Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 53 pts · 170d
That's cool, still leaving though.
I ain't submitting my ID to anyone over the internet.
This is a place of anonymity, not for proclaiming from the rooftops who I am on here.
melroy@kbin.melroy.org · 47 pts · 170d
Too late Discord. I will never come back.
bearoftheisle@europe.pub · 5 pts · 169d
Same, i finally got my friend group to switch to something else. Currently trying out element
k0e3@lemmy.ca · 45 pts · 170d
... cuts ties for the time being
Jaysyn@lemmy.world · 43 pts · 169d
Well, I don't believe you.
Also, you should learn what trust is and how that works.
Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works · 8 pts · 168d
Trust isn't on then now. They won't learn what it means until the customer demonstrates what trust means. The trust is gone on our side so leave the platform. Rip the bandaid off. Get off social media. Get off shitty streaming services.
Do it and do it now.
Jaysyn@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 167d
You're preaching to the choir here.
echodot@feddit.uk · -3 pts · 168d
Got it, cancelling my Netflix now, that will show er... discord? Somehow.
I get what you're saying, but I also don't pay for discord, so it's not like they'll care if I disappear.
TerdFerguson@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 168d
Discord gets paid for user's data and they just lost a ton of users. That's why they are "cutting ties" with Persona.
I suspect its more of a temporary reaction and they will reframe this age-verification and the related data collection and try again later.
lemmy_acct_id_8647@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 168d
This. People seem to think that if they don’t pay for a service or click on ads on social sites, then they aren’t contributing to the company’s revenue. They fail to realize that THEY themselves are the product being sold. The sites/services and the interactions people have on them are merely a byproduct of the business model which is selling people’s data. The only way to win is to not play.
TerdFerguson@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 168d
Yes. I have a hard no for participating willingly in expansion of mass surveillance, censorship and propaganda.
And that’s ultimately what this move supports. It was no surprise to find out all the shady aspects following the announcement, but I had already burned Discord out of my life the day they announced their genius idea.
Its my enshittification red line. I will quit your product without hesitation and find another way. I will never go back
ne0phyte@feddit.org · 3 pts · 168d
I believe it actually does matter. Every person using Discord brings their friends onto the platform. Users leaving will probably also lead to others in their bubble leaving/following to an alternative.
So lots of people leaving has a bigger effect than just that set of users being absent. Even if you didn't pay for Nitro, some of your friends might have and may stop now.
Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 168d
You clearly don't get what I'm saying.
pnelego@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 168d
I think you’re missing the point. The idea isn’t that leaving Netflix would affect discord; but rather that we should tie an exodus from discord to the rest of the de-cloud movement.
In other words, quitting discord won’t solve the root cause of why discord went to shit. The root cause are cartel-like cloud companies that are trying to gain leverage over society as large. The only way to reasonably solve it is to stop participating.
Ascendor@discuss.tchncs.de · 1 pts · 168d
You seem to have no clue of Discord's business model - and those of other data scraping companies.
melsaskca@lemmy.ca · 41 pts · 169d
With guys like this you don't need to find secret surveillance shit, you just need to assume it.
Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works · 25 pts · 169d
It's fucking Peter Thiel. They should know he is radioactive.
ICastFist@programming.dev · 14 pts · 169d
They probably did, but didn't care. They only started "caring" because it made the news
Smaile@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 169d
Yup, but some companies gotta learn the hard way that you can't snake people like that and expect them to come back.
echodot@feddit.uk · 1 pts · 168d
Tech CEOs don't live in the same world as the rest of us. Maybe when the AI bubble pops they'll finally realise that it might be good idea to have some actual humans working in the company C suite. Rather than repeatedly hiring from the same pod person pool of recycled MBA executives.
Gonzako@lemmy.world · 39 pts · 170d
Too late lol,already deleted my 10+ year old discord
Electricd@lemmybefree.net · -46 pts · 170d
If you really cared and could delete it without problem, it would have been deleted way earlier, no?
I have a hard time believing people actually do these things.
Gonzako@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 170d
Nah, it gave me 10 different things I had to do before deleting my account. Also, no. I have my limit and it crossed when they chose to implement facial ID. I am missing it still, I am looking for something to fill the open group discussion it had for me.
Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 8 pts · 170d
That's the hard part really, finding a new group chat platform.
My friends and I are switching to Matrix but finding a community there is gonna be a bit tough.
We all become too dependent on Discord and now we're paying the price when we try to leave.
oddpixel@lemmy.wtf · 6 pts · 169d
Create your own community (aka - matrix space/room), set up end-to-end encryption, start the invites. https://matrix.org/docs/chat_basics/private-group-chat/
Otherwise, to find existing rooms, I've relied on this in the past: https://matrixrooms.info/
Electricd@lemmybefree.net · 1 pts · 168d
That’s really nice! I went ahead and setup Element on all my devices as well, but I’m not as enthusiastic. Most people won’t bother changing. It was a pain to make people move from WhatsApp / iMessage to Signal already
Electricd@lemmybefree.net · 1 pts · 168d
The problem is how will you do for most services and websites? They have support on discord for the most part (especially for coding stuff, or games)
Gonzako@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 168d
I don't mind asking for alternatives. Once I put my foot down I'll just work around it
Electricd@lemmybefree.net · 1 pts · 165d
That’s nice, congrats for your dedication
Rivalarrival@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 170d
It was hard enough getting new contacts to install it and stay connected.
Posted notices that I was shutting it down. Added links to a web page and a telegram channel.
Gonzako@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 169d
I personally just pulled the plug. Whoever might have cared can msg me through any of the other accounts
Shanmugha@lemmy.world · 38 pts · 169d
Nah, don't believe it. Reason: money
FreddiesLantern@leminal.space · 33 pts · 170d
Too late.
myfunnyaccountname@lemmy.zip · 31 pts · 169d
Doubt.
Ascendor@discuss.tchncs.de · 30 pts · 169d
Too little, too late.
technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 27 pts · 169d
Why create ties in the first place?
Not sure if I should upvote people fixing a obvious, terrible problem that they created themselves.
alonsohmtz@feddit.uk · 14 pts · 169d
its_kim_love@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 27 pts · 170d
Whoops we accidentally picked something that will give the government your data. That wasn't our intention. Instead we're going to use an independent service so the government will have to buy it from us.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 26 pts · 170d
nice try, but you will try to reintroduce it under another name. ALso the anti-christ thiel wont be happy.
NihilsineNefas@slrpnk.net · 26 pts · 169d
Is it just me or does this (the push for removing online anonymity) feel like part of a bigger move to push people into further insulated groups and prevent social cohesion?
Lfrith@lemmy.ca · 10 pts · 169d
NihilsineNefas@slrpnk.net · 5 pts · 169d
Almost like there's a push from powerful people to get this passed as soon as possible
echodot@feddit.uk · 1 pts · 168d
Once the right have managed to get this law passed, they'll go back to not caring about the kids again. It's infuriating now often they get away with this scam.
I was a kid back when most adults thought that computers what operated by tiny pixies and computer mice had three buttons. We had a content filter on the school computers that could be circumvented by not typing www. at the beginning of a URL. I could have seen all sorts of inappropriate content if I had wanted, but I didn't because I was 12 so I just used it to play RuneScape. The kids are alright, it's the adults that are all messed up.
alonsohmtz@feddit.uk · 8 pts · 169d
echodot@feddit.uk · 1 pts · 168d
Yes but also these people, especially the likes of Donald Trump, don't really understand how the world works so all their plans for controlling it never come off, because things that would be blindingly obvious to most people, are utterly obtrused to them.
You know like the idea that people would just not use privacy invading applications. How many people do you think have actually submitted their IDs versus have just downloaded a VPN or convented their controls in other ways? Then they'll make VPNs illegal and think that they've in some way achieved something, but they will always be a workaround for their authority, because the people they are trying to control are smarter than them.
MajorasTerribleFate@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 169d
I'm with you. Made a comment recently, here or elsewhere, that a huge thing to happen with social spaces over time is that trustworthy sources of information have a chance to really prove themselves as such. So when you rip apart one platform and scatter its users, you destroy that earned credibility and leave a lot of people without at least some of their reliable news sources. That's most harmful to people looking for actual truth, since people willing to swallow comfortable lies don't really need the providers of information to be vetted.
The conclusion to all this is that keeping social platforms from building large, long-term communities is a very effective way to keep people who seek truth from finding it.
lightnsfw@reddthat.com · 1 pts · 168d
I've not really ever had any cohesion on the platforms I use anonymously anyway. I just like having places to talk about shit without any judgement that would be linked to my identity. Gonna miss that if this shit takes off but going outside more will probably do me some good.
UsoSaito@feddit.uk · 25 pts · 168d
Funny part is everyone was already saying this when Discord mentioned age verification and Discord was acting like their heads were in the sand. It wasn't until mass exodus and people canceling Nitro that they finally did something.
DarkCloud@lemmy.world · 24 pts · 170d
Trump, thiel, musk - all their dads were Nazis.
Trump's dad hated black people and sheltered Nazis and the KKK, Thiel's dad is from a Nazi town in South Africa, Musk's father and grandfather went to South Africa just for the racism.
They're all stuck in that, and catching feelings because of it.
ivanafterall@lemmy.world · 22 pts · 170d
Discord is fucked. You love to see it.
sqauffle@slrpnk.net · 21 pts · 170d
Too late hahahaha
Gammelfisch@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 170d
I deleted Discord and will not return.
ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online · 18 pts · 169d
Already deleted my account. Not going back.
Wammityblam@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 170d
Too fuckin bad Discord. Damage is done.
kn0wmad1c@programming.dev · 15 pts · 170d
I dunno. The current state of the world might be making me more conspiracy-minded, but this feels like it was always part of the plan.
Introduce surveillance tech that Peter Thiel can use to spy/sell/whatever, announce that you're using it, expecting people to get angry, and now in the 11th hour, after harvesting all the data they get to announce "we're removing the evil software! We're the good guys again!"
I recognize that the current state of affairs is having me see demons everywhere, but I just can't bring myself to give discord a pat on the back.
paul@lemmy.org · 9 pts · 170d
It's worse than that. They've said what they want to do and they want to get rid of democracy in place of a technocracy surveillance state.
motruck@lemmy.zip · 14 pts · 170d
Too little too late fuck you discord.
MountainMan@lemmy.zip · 13 pts · 169d
Suuuurrrrrreeeee. They will probably just setup a shell company or whatever they do. These rats don't just give up and go home.
FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 170d
This reminded me a whole lot of OnlyFans deciding to ban porn.
Just... stupid.
SippyCup@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 170d
What uhh... What did they expect people to use it for?
PoopingCough@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 170d
Conceptually, it's always supposed to have been something akin to Patreon, where creators can be supported by fans via a subscription model. A combination of lax rules around nudity and probably sheer inertia meant that "creators" ended up being pretty much only sex workers. OF then tried to pivot away from that and we all knows how well that went.
FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 170d
No idea. :D
Cantaloupe@lemmy.fedioasis.cc · 12 pts · 170d
Too fucking late time to migrate.
frog_brawler@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 170d
J92@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 170d
I wish the UK government would fuck this off as well. Giving that creep the entire NHS health data backlog was a move of utter stupidity.
Formfiller@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 170d
Thiel is in the Epstein files, literally is funding the destruction of our democracy and all democracies worldwide everyone Thiel should be arrested and charged with treason and sent to the hauge and be tried for crimes against humanity
paul@lemmy.org · 10 pts · 170d
Not just in them, good friends with Epstein and conspired with him to destabilise the west.
1995ToyotaCorolla@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 168d
Oops, you caught us, we’re sorry! We promise not to do it again! (In the next 3-6 months, restrictions apply, refer to your EULA for details)
Nomorereddit@lemmy.today · 11 pts · 170d
Discord, the idiots who were bout to face id us?
howler@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 170d
Deleted my discord rooms, left every room i was in, requested my acct deleted, uninstalled from every device. Moved to matrix & fluxer.
Devilz3@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 168d
Poor discord
paequ2@lemmy.today · 9 pts · 170d
Too late! I'm moving to Fluxer!
lightnsfw@reddthat.com · 9 pts · 168d
The fact they ever considered something affiliated with Peter Thiel in the first place is enough to abandon Discord.
Canconda@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 168d
But Peter Theil knows about the anti-christ!
dudesss@lemmy.ca · 8 pts · 169d
Who else is using Peter Thiels crap?
wetling@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 169d
Robinhood uses Persona.
echodot@feddit.uk · 1 pts · 168d
Is that some new hip social media app that I am not gen alpha enough to understand. I've only managed to get as far as Fortnite.
wetling@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 165d
Identity verification service.
tostos@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 169d
CEO from mossad family. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humam_Sakhnini
webdoodle@lemmy.ml · 7 pts · 169d
Anything Thiel touches is compromised. All he does is steal your data so he can use it too brainwash you..
madjo@feddit.nl · 6 pts · 168d
Again? I swear I read the same headline earlier this month.
chunes@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 170d
I went back to IRC a couple of weeks ago and it's been such a breath of fresh air to use good technology again.
mrmaplebar@fedia.io · 2 pts · 170d
Matrix might be worth a try too. It's kind of like a modernized IRC with limited discord-like functionality.
Stoat also seems pretty good, though it's more centralized than I'd like.
inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 170d
I think stoat would be viable of they had voice chat working with their self hosting option but yeah, right now it's a no for me because of that.
Pappabosley@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 170d
*after people found out it was tied to USA surveillance
Xtreasonerx@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 170d
Too late. Fuck Discord. I’ll just text my frie… oh wait…maybe we should start investing in messenger birds again?
rickywithanm@aussie.zone · 4 pts · 170d
Join matrix I’ve found it does everything I wanted from discord without its added bloat and memory useage
Bakkoda@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 170d
Businesses have operated under the assumption that brand loyalty just meant they could take a shit in your mouth over and over and over.
Fuck these businesses and fuck their piss poor anti consumer bullshit.
ToTheGraveMyLove@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 170d
Discord publicly cut ties. What could they possibly do to convince us that it was legit?
DudeImMacGyver@kbin.earth · 5 pts · 170d
Cut ties huh? Isn't he their main VC investor?
muxika@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 169d
Damage is already done. Greetings from [matrix].
Formfiller@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 169d
Why isn’t this disgusting criminal in prison?
CADmonkey@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 169d
Because money
Formfiller@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 169d
Money he stole from taxpayers
mPony@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 169d
https://youtu.be/FjON651woDE?t=73
BlackLaZoR@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 168d
Color me fucking surprised
sakuraba@lemmy.ml · 4 pts · 170d
just FYI is any of you just need to step out of discord and already use steam, you can migrate to a steam group chat, they even have dedicated channels for text or voice
that's my backup while i check some selfhosted options
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 169d
did it really though?
did it really?
for some reason I've got the "oh you aren't???" mashed up with that anakin with the ridiculous breasts meme
Fokeu@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 168d
I don't believe that.
eddyizm@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 170d
Am I the only going back to IRC? I'm not a gamer so I just use it for chat and setting up my own irc was straight forward. Even set up a webui for my friends who don't know how navigate irc through regular clients.
madmantis24@lemmy.wtf · 1 pts · 170d
https://youtu.be/XwrJUn4ViaU
These corporations just keep giving me new reasons to reference this bit from Pat Boivin!
Thetechloop@programming.dev · 1 pts · 119d
green_goglin@thelemmy.club · 1 pts · 170d
FoxtrotDeltaTango@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 170d
BoJackHorseman@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 170d
Earthman_Jim@lemmy.zip · 12 pts · 170d
Peter Theil doesn't seem driven by religion to me... He sees religion as a tool, like all powerful people.
BoJackHorseman@lemmy.world · -2 pts · 170d
Earthman_Jim@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 170d
What does that have to do with his religious beliefs?
sakuraba@lemmy.ml · 5 pts · 170d
something something this user thinks israel is the same as judaism and therefore israel is the defacto jewish state and dealing with israel means you are a jew by relation? i'll just assume that's how this antisemite thinks
Earthman_Jim@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 170d
Folks that think that way are usually religious themselves and think religion is some kind of spell that makes people good or bad, They probably attribute the good things they do to their religion and the bad things they do to straying from their religion. Sad, simple shit. The exact sort of person Thiel uses.
NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 170d
FYI, this dude is a literal nazi.
Quill7513@slrpnk.net · 2 pts · 169d
wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooow
NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 170d
Random aside, do you, by chance, believe that the made up concept of the aryan race is, in fact, superior?
Any answer other than an explicit “yes” or an explicit “no” will be interpreted as a “strong yes.”
Quill7513@slrpnk.net · 3 pts · 170d
America has been a surveillance state since 2002. also America controls Israel, not the other way around
BoJackHorseman@lemmy.world · -2 pts · 170d
Quill7513@slrpnk.net · 4 pts · 170d
i have yes. this is all evidence of the transnational oligarchy that fundamentally operates to support white supremacy abroad
BoJackHorseman@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 170d
sakuraba@lemmy.ml · 5 pts · 170d
yeah that's what transnational means
NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 170d
Who’s controlling it all, though? Tell us, please.
Edit: we see you, nazi scum fuck.
NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 170d
Says the nazi.
BoJackHorseman@lemmy.world · -12 pts · 170d
Quill7513@slrpnk.net · 4 pts · 170d
no. you've just crossed the line past anti-zionism to being uninformed on who pulls the strings in geopolitics and equating zionism to judaism. broadly speaking, lemmy is mostly anti-zionist with the exception of a couple instances (this one in particular i have some issues with which i won't get into here)
NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 170d
Quill7513@slrpnk.net · 3 pts · 170d
what's more is this line of thinking does work for israel, not against it. israel wants the world to think that they, and they alone, speak for people who look like me
NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 170d
I’ll say it again, FUCK ISRAEL.
Quill7513@slrpnk.net · 2 pts · 170d
FUCK ISRAEL
a little louder for the people in the back
squidman64@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 170d
Not according to Israel unfortunately
NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 170d
Fuck Israel.
sakuraba@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 170d
At this point it's not a conspiracy to think Israel spreads the 'jews control everything' narrative so they can poison any discussion on the topic
Tiger_Man_@szmer.info · 0 pts · 169d
W