We are in a simulation and these are remnants from server migration/discrepancies in the instances.
These are dry runs of the man seeing what history they can get away with rewriting and convince us was true.
No. I cannot create false memories. Nope. I can’t do it. I won’t listen to you. It’s not true! Nonononononononooooooooooooooooooooo! This isn’t my fault! 👉😫👈 lalalalalala
The worst fucking lie they made up was the pronunciation of GIF being based on the peanut butter company. That is exactly the sort of bullshit excuse a shadowy cabal looking to rewrite history would come up with to gaslight everyone into believing it's true.
Yeah, we devs and computer people aren't good at names. Half the time the name is the acronym of what it is/does RAM, CPU, GPU... Othertimes its something the Dev thought would be cool.
Motherfuckers... is this why i've been remembering shit that other people say never happened? or remembering something people said and then them saying they said something different? wait i recently saw a movie about some guy trying to break out of his reality by flying a rocket to the edge of the universe and has been dimension hoping the entire trip, this is trippy...
Edit: i can't find the name of the movie but the plot is as described and he realises he is dimension hoping because his partner is suddenly alive after he killed him or he died in an accident on the ship, can't remember what happened and at the end he also realises he is in a loop and after he crashes into the edge he chooses the dimension in which he never went into space and escapes the loop, anyone have an idea of what the movie might be called or am i just trippin balls and that movie doesn't exist in this dimension?
ANy other info? New film? Old? Any notable actors? US film or from elsewhere? I dug around, but nothing I could find in ten minutes fit your description. Am interested in knowing too as I love these types of films.
is this why i’ve been remembering shit that other people say never happened? or remembering something people said and then them saying they said something different?
I mean, if you want the real answer, it's just that it is incredibly easy to create false memories. Then add in all the social pressure fun that can warp your viewpoint, and you're off to the races.
Alternative title is "ISRA 88". Just watched it. It's interesting, but a little clunky. Maybe not as bad as the 3.6/10, but I feel it misses the mark. They didn't make the alternate realities portion of the story as compelling (or real) as they could've. It could be a stage play with how low-tech the sets/environment are, but I can overlook that, so nbd. Just didn't have enough oomph. ;)
The flip side of this that that you can be lied to without consequence. I'm not saying most of these are real, but pretending like this has never happened is asking for an additional serving of boot.
It's interesting that when you see them laid out like this you can more easily see the reasons people could have come to remember this way.
For instance, conflating Jif and Skippy as essentially the same product, or getting an association of missing letters from the "eat mor chik'n" cows ad campaign.
Agreed, also by putting so many together like this, you're gonna have some people who don't remember it that way. Like the Monopoly guy is half-convincing to me, but I'm pretty sure it's just a mix-up with Mr. Peanut.
My personal reason for messing up Chick Fil A in my head is because there used to be a different chicken restaurant chain where I grew up called Krispy Chic. Not sure if any are still open, but all the ones in aware of closed down decades ago.
All of the one where the spelling is wrong make sense, because people were projecting familiar versions of those words that made sense. Also Monkeys have tails—they gave him a design more reminiscent of a monkey than an ape, so people expect a tail
My aunt is a great believer in the Mandela effect and she insists LEGO used to be spelled leggo. My mom thinks she has it confused with the TV commercials saying "le'ggo my eggo"
That's Manitoba. You're thinking of a person who is not loyal to their own country or political party because they are under the control or influence of another country or party.
Wait until people watch old shows from the 90s set in NYC, and there's these two buildings in the skyline. But when you go to NYC, those buildings DON'T EVEN EXIST!!!
Thar reminds me how I misread "Disney" as "Disnep" in their cursive logo for a long time in my childhood. Does that mean there is a Disnep dimension out there? :P
The Mandela effect is for people whose ego is so large that they believe that being catapulted into a parallel dimension without having noticed is a more plausible explanation than that they’re slightly wrong about something insignificant
as much as I want to think it's only ego, there's absolutely no way SO many people independently of each other remember the fruit of the loom logo had a cornucopia
...granted there's absolutely no way the solution to this conundrum is an alternate universe lmao
Also keep in mind that nowadays we live in an age where something as insignificant as a logo change becomes headline news.
It's entirely possible the company ran some market analysis and discreetly changed the logo a few decades ago. Maybe a shirt still exists out there with that logo, but it's hard to find since cheap t-shirts and underwear don't last as long as something like tailored vintage clothing. I'm sure if you spend enough time searching on the internet you might find something, but personally I cannae be arsed
A plausible theory I saw on the cornucopia is that some knockoff brand used it and the knockoff brand had poorer quality clothes and so none of it is around anymore
I make an active choice to believe I got catapulted into another dimension because that's more entertaining and interesting than being slightly wrong, thank you very much!
The human brain has a tendency to see what it expects to see. That's why most people don't notice I've been deliberately misspelling Untied States for over a year. The brain just assumes it says what they expect it to say
The cornucopia was there. I swear on my life I saw it.
I'm now convinced that there was a knock-off brand that posed as Fruit of the Loom for years with the altered logo. That's the only explanation I'll accept. Mandela effect my ass.
Literally the same for me, except it was my father. Not that I believe the Mandela effect per se, but I really wish I had a proper explanation for that one.
Years ago, after 57 Chevies became the iconic representation of the 50s, and got REAL popular, I read about how there were far more 57 Chevies around than could be accounted for by official production.
It turns out that there were:
A dedicated group of ex-Chevrolet stylists and franchised used-car salesmen continued to turn out close to 200,000 1957 Chevrolets, focusing on the 2-door Bel-Air model, between the years 1957 and 1967, in a small auto assembly plant located outside Jacksonville, Ill.
Think probably what happened is the packaging had the cornucopia on it and it was very large and obvious and now no one has a sealed pack of underwear from the 90s
Looney Tunes was called Looney Tunes because they we cartoons that had nothing to do with the music but WB had to use the music in some way to keep the rights. So Looney Tunes are music videos. Change my mind.
Fruit of the Loom with the Cornucopia: Fake
Curious George with a tail: Fake (I know because I had the fucking Curious George huffing ether shirt in college.)
Chic-Fil-A: Fake (Link to Chick-Fil-A's founder S. Truet Cathy's book "Eat Mor Chikin" published in 2002)
Looney Toons: Fake
Fruit Loops: Fake
Oscar Meyer: Fake (I often confused the two spellings as a kid because we often bought Oscar Mayer hot dogs from Fred Meyer.)
Berenstein Bears: Not fake, more of a matter of different publications running with different spellings.
Jiffy: Fake
Febreeze: Fake (link to archived post from 1996 in an ad magazine announcing P&G releasing Febreze)
Okay Maybe I'll come back and finish digging up the evidence for all of these, but literally the Pikachu one is the only one I'm unsure about. I'm positive everything else on the left hand side has been completely debunked or is a situation like the Berenstain Bears where different publishers used different spellings, especially in the home videos.
Pikachu with a dark tail tip is definitely fake. The main variation that was added later on was a heart-shaped tail for female Pikachu, and like another user mentioned, marking that one black for the unique Cosplay Pikachu.
Its actually not, back in the 90s due to communication issues, poor management of merch and inconsistent official art avaiablity during the red/blue era. A lot of odd ball designs have existed for a number of pokemon.
Pikachu with a black tail tip, brown, a garident all exist. The early water colors being poorly maintained also caused issues with it. Not to mention third party manufactures basing it off pokemon card art or art from the actual artists that never actually was ment to be reference material.
I use to have a number of Pikachu toys as a kid. There were more designs then you can count. Fat Pikachu was highly inconsistent.
Well sure it's been debunked but the myth is that a timeline jump means historical records are going to be different from your memory.
So the proof that Looney Tunes is a myth isn't in historical documents but from my memory where I know it was Tunes because of Merry Melodies. My memory agrees with historical proof.
Froot Loops has always been that way. Back when I was a kid, they only had three colours - red, orange, and yellow - and I remember being bothered that they had to repeat one of them. Problem got solved when they rolled out green.
I recently did some digging on the fruit of the loom logo because I remember learning the word cornucopia and connecting it with the logo on my T-shirts and underwear.
Yeah, I was mistaken. The dye on some of the clothes just made the logo look like there was a cornucopia. Like the leaves on the side being brown and a tiny bit of those leaves at the top right with the small white grapes at the bottom right also looking the same brown color? It definitely looks like a cornucopia until you look very closely.
(The logo shown in the image above is a more modern one, look at the earlier ones from around the turn of this century and you’ll see it better)
Yeah that one was a real mindfuck to me too. I haven't seen all of these as a kid, as I'm not from the states. We don't get all that many fruit of the loom shirts here, dit from the ones I saw I was sure about the cornucopia.
I never got it as a kid, partly because it was a difficult pun for that age. I didn’t know the word tune nor would I later pronounce it like that. The first forms of that word, I ran into, were radio tuner and car tuning, nothing I’d associate with music
I can see why they would change it. No-one is eating at a place called Chik-fil-A I am From Atlanta, especially when there's a Carl's Jr But I Think That's Regional nearby.
I think a lot of these can be explained as wires being crossed with mixed memories. Memories of the Jiffy boxes in the cupboard next to Jif peanut butter might have mixed things up to where people misremember whether there was ever a Jiffy peanut butter.
Chick-fil-A, same thing. Being a kid and thinking "wow that's a weird way to spell it" about the "fil-A" part and somehow blending it into believing it was about the "Chick" part. Looney Tunes, Froot Loops, Berenstain Bears, all similar processes.
The Sinbad Shazaam movie is almost certainly a mashup of a memories of Shaq's Kazaam, the Sinbad cartoon movie from 1992, and Sinbad dressing like a Mediterranean/middle eastern pirate in All That.
The thing I cannot explain, though, is the Fruit of the Loom cornucopia. I remember it that way, and I can't find anything like that.
My money for the Fruit of the Loom cornucopia is that it a good quality bootleg called Fruit of Loom or something that got nuked at some point for copyright infringement. Kinda like all those bootleg Adidas brands.
pro-tip: putting image URLs in your comment like this:  makes the image show up in your comment rather than just the URL
::: spoiler I ended up making a quick tampermonkey script to convert image links to image elements
this probably needs some work on the isImageUrl function but it works for this instance at least haha
(function() {
Array.from(document.querySelectorAll('a')).filter(e => isImageUrl(e.href)).forEach(imageLink => {
var imageElement = document.createElement('img');
imageElement.src = imageLink.href;
imageLink.after(imageElement);
imageLink.style.display = 'none'
});
})();
function isImageUrl(input){
var url = new URL(input.toLowerCase());
return url.pathname.endsWith('.jpg')
|| url.pathname.endsWith('.png')
|| url.pathname.endsWith('.gif');
}
oh and I guess it needs to be re-executed for when more comments are loaded by scrolling. in that case the already created image elements would double up, but you could just delete the original image link... it is quick and dirty after all
edit: V2 is here
(function() {
console.log('script loaded');
setInterval(findAndReplaceImageLinks, 10);
})();
function findAndReplaceImageLinks(){
Array.from(document.querySelectorAll('a')).filter(e => isImageUrl(e.href)).forEach(imageLink => {
if (imageLink.classList == 'fst-italic link-dark link-opacity-75 link-opacity-100-hover'){ return; }
//console.log(imageLink)
var imageElement = document.createElement('img');
imageElement.src = imageLink.href;
imageLink.after(imageElement);
imageLink.remove();
console.log('image replaced');
});
}
function isImageUrl(input){
var url = new URL(input.toLowerCase());
return url.pathname.endsWith('.jpg')
|| url.pathname.endsWith('.png')
|| url.pathname.endsWith('.gif');
}
nope, Fruit of the loom got me, i had seen the monopoly and curious george ones had no tail, but they knocked me for a loop a decade ago, Looney Toons was kind of shadowy in my mind, toones makes more sense, but the "merry melodies" moniker muddled the water, we brain cells. I always called the bears by what sounds like the first one, but i always knew it wasn't spelled that way, i remmeber reading the books when I was young and my parents corrected the pronoinciation on me. I went with it because ... 'english' but i always knew it wasn't spelled like we said it, we don't genrally promounce february and wednesday very well so who was 5 year old me to argue with an adult that would smack my ass for being argumentative. :)
This is the only one that makes me question reality. My dad spent a lot of time working in Germany before I was born and we had decorative beer steins all over the house. I remember asking about them and as I started to read being told, "see it's steins, like Daddy's fancy mugs." What the in the alternate memory making dimension hole is going on here!?
I can confirm the current universe chick fil a because I'd never seen or heard it until I was an adult, which was before they got infamous for being anti LGBT. When I first drove past the sign I asked the people I was with "WTF is chick feel ah?" If it'd been "chic" I would've pronounced it like the French loanword (ie "sheek").
I'm convinced that the Mandela effect is just self gaslighting. I don't have any strong memories about any of these things, so when someone shows me one I think it's right, then I have a hard time believing it's not right. If I was shown the correct one first the Mandela effect wouldn't exist for me.
My aunt tried to "prove" the Mandela effect to me by asking how I remember the spelling of KitKat. I misremembered it with a hyphen. What she fails to understand is it proves nothing to me because I never claimed to have perfect memory
At this point I'm convinced it's corporate gaslighting. They KNOW there wasn't consistency because of franchisees, misprints, brand changes, inattentive advertising firms, mistranslations, knocknoffs, and different production lines hitting different specs. But do they own up to it? Nooooo. Apparently the collective society at large just "remembers" it wrong.
Maybe instead of freaking out about the Mandela Effect, we should be freaking out with our willingness to just believe corporations at their word. Because that's who seems to have the final word in all of these things, especially in situations where you can't go back and check original artifacts. I'm guessing there's still some old Berenstain Bears books at garage sales and vintage Pikachu merch is everywhere, but who's holding onto 40 year-old underwear or peanut butter jars?
Here's a recent example: Dairy Queen introduced a new Blizzard about ten years ago. It started with a solid chocolate core with ice cream around it. They called it the Fudge Tunnel Blizzard. It was there, on the drivethrough sign, and my friends and I had a field day with it. The branding lasted for a few weeks and then it completely disappeared.
I can't find branding anywhere on the internet. I know it was there, my friends saw it was there. Nobody took a picture and it vanished. I can't find it on google. It's gone. Well, there's some mention of them adding a "tunnel of fudge" to the Royal Blizzard in 2017, but there's zero surviving marketing material for the original concept which definitely did not have a golden spoon. I know this because I ordered it. Repeatedly. To make the people behind the intercom say it back to me.
It makes sense that they'd want to scrub everything that ever mentioned eating a Fudge Tunnel at Dairy Queen. For the other stuff.... who knows? Marketing departments churn, stuff gets lost, short-run logos get left out of the brand evolution. Yeah, some of this is Mandela effect but can we stop treating corporations as the ultimate authority?
I must admit, some of the fake ones look right to me. I don't get how people misremember the spelling of Froot Loops though. How do you not remember the extra Os made of froot loops?
This looks like one of those ADHD tests I took. I failed them...found like one or two differences but they all look the same to me. I'm not American though
187 Comments
snoons@lemmy.ca · 179 pts · 115d
I'd rather believe in unconscious interdimensional travel then accept that my memories might be wrong.
HappyRapi@ani.social · 53 pts · 115d
The Organization is out to deceive you
El Psy Kongroo
CuriousRefugee@discuss.tchncs.de · 24 pts · 115d
"WHAT?" *pauses midway through microwaving a banana
caseyweederman@lemmy.ca · 7 pts · 114d
"..." floats frozen through space
Sir_Premiumhengst@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 114d
Geez... How do I beetle juice 鳳凰院 凶真 Hououin Kyouma)@sh.itjust.works?
ivanafterall@lemmy.world · 34 pts · 115d
The dimensional jump did a number on my back and knees, too. And hairline.
We have to go back!
CIA_chatbot@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 115d
Oh god they got you too!
snoons@lemmy.ca · 5 pts · 115d
The bastards took our hair and switched out our ligaments!
CIA_chatbot@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 115d
Those sumbitches!
aeronmelon@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 114d
But now you have a sick beard.
ivanafterall@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 114d
This blew my mind, at the time.
derAbsender@piefed.social · 1 pts · 113d
Yeah i remember it so clearly
The ending of lost was so amazing
Doug@piefed.social · 30 pts · 115d
My two acceptable hypotheses:
No. I cannot create false memories. Nope. I can’t do it. I won’t listen to you. It’s not true! Nonononononononooooooooooooooooooooo! This isn’t my fault! 👉😫👈 lalalalalala
snoons@lemmy.ca · 19 pts · 115d
OUR MUSHY BRAINS CREATE MUSHY MEMORIES
Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 115d
No no no, you're not buying extra crunchy peanut butter
snoons@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 114d
Don worry I'll hire my crow friends to get the peanuts.
Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 114d
I see you've read my recent post on "The Crow"
zikzak025@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 115d
The worst fucking lie they made up was the pronunciation of GIF being based on the peanut butter company. That is exactly the sort of bullshit excuse a shadowy cabal looking to rewrite history would come up with to gaslight everyone into believing it's true.
drcobaltjedi@programming.dev · 11 pts · 114d
I love that pretty much everyone says the creator of the gif format is saying his format name wrong.
zikzak025@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 114d
He's a crisis actor, I don't buy it!
RedAggroBest@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 113d
Just because the guy is good at tech doesn't mean he's good at naming things.
I'd like to site the names of like... Half the FOSS software I see.
drcobaltjedi@programming.dev · 1 pts · 113d
Yeah, we devs and computer people aren't good at names. Half the time the name is the acronym of what it is/does RAM, CPU, GPU... Othertimes its something the Dev thought would be cool.
Eternal192@anarchist.nexus · 7 pts · 115d
Motherfuckers... is this why i've been remembering shit that other people say never happened? or remembering something people said and then them saying they said something different? wait i recently saw a movie about some guy trying to break out of his reality by flying a rocket to the edge of the universe and has been dimension hoping the entire trip, this is trippy...
Edit: i can't find the name of the movie but the plot is as described and he realises he is dimension hoping because his partner is suddenly alive after he killed him or he died in an accident on the ship, can't remember what happened and at the end he also realises he is in a loop and after he crashes into the edge he chooses the dimension in which he never went into space and escapes the loop, anyone have an idea of what the movie might be called or am i just trippin balls and that movie doesn't exist in this dimension?
PancakesCantKillMe@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 115d
ANy other info? New film? Old? Any notable actors? US film or from elsewhere? I dug around, but nothing I could find in ten minutes fit your description. Am interested in knowing too as I love these types of films.
Eternal192@anarchist.nexus · 9 pts · 114d
Goddamn it took some specific digging but i found it, it's called "Beyond the Edge" (2016).
PancakesCantKillMe@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 114d
Nice find! Rated 3.6/10 on imdb. Is it really that bad? Meh, I’ll watch it anyways.
Edit: Alternate title is "ISRA 88". Adrienne Barbeau has a bit part in it. The film is a bit middling, but maybe not 3.6. Maybe a 4.5/10.
zikzak025@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 115d
God dammit it happened again!
NannerBanner@literature.cafe · 6 pts · 114d
I mean, if you want the real answer, it's just that it is incredibly easy to create false memories. Then add in all the social pressure fun that can warp your viewpoint, and you're off to the races.
snoons@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 115d
Plot twist: ur the main chrctr
ivanafterall@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 114d
I always suspected as much.
darkdemize@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 115d
I have no idea, but it sounds like an interesting premise.
Eternal192@anarchist.nexus · 5 pts · 114d
Found it, it's called "Beyond the Edge" (2016).
PancakesCantKillMe@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 114d
Alternative title is "ISRA 88". Just watched it. It's interesting, but a little clunky. Maybe not as bad as the 3.6/10, but I feel it misses the mark. They didn't make the alternate realities portion of the story as compelling (or real) as they could've. It could be a stage play with how low-tech the sets/environment are, but I can overlook that, so nbd. Just didn't have enough oomph. ;)
Oh, and Adrienne Barbeau is in it!
socsa@piefed.social · 6 pts · 114d
The flip side of this that that you can be lied to without consequence. I'm not saying most of these are real, but pretending like this has never happened is asking for an additional serving of boot.
W98BSoD@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 115 pts · 114d
Found some more pixels
wabasso@lemmy.ca · 10 pts · 114d
You’re a hero. Now I can be upset about Frebreeze too.
JcbAzPx@lemmy.world · 89 pts · 115d
It's interesting that when you see them laid out like this you can more easily see the reasons people could have come to remember this way.
For instance, conflating Jif and Skippy as essentially the same product, or getting an association of missing letters from the "eat mor chik'n" cows ad campaign.
ivanafterall@lemmy.world · 43 pts · 115d
Agreed, also by putting so many together like this, you're gonna have some people who don't remember it that way. Like the Monopoly guy is half-convincing to me, but I'm pretty sure it's just a mix-up with Mr. Peanut.
TheWordBotcher@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 115d
My personal reason for messing up Chick Fil A in my head is because there used to be a different chicken restaurant chain where I grew up called Krispy Chic. Not sure if any are still open, but all the ones in aware of closed down decades ago.
QuantumSparkles@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 114d
All of the one where the spelling is wrong make sense, because people were projecting familiar versions of those words that made sense. Also Monkeys have tails—they gave him a design more reminiscent of a monkey than an ape, so people expect a tail
FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 110d
My aunt is a great believer in the Mandela effect and she insists LEGO used to be spelled leggo. My mom thinks she has it confused with the TV commercials saying "le'ggo my eggo"
s@piefed.world · 71 pts · 115d
Ah yes, the Minglebingle Effect
Karmanopoly@lemmy.world · 46 pts · 115d
That's Mandella, you're thinking of the bounty hunter that hangs with grogu
bizarroland@lemmy.world · 30 pts · 115d
That's Mandalorian. You're thinking about the band that backed up Mike when he sang the 1980s hit song "All I need is a miracle"
Trex202@lemmy.world · 24 pts · 115d
That's the Mechanics. You're thinking about a tomato based sauce with herbs
null@piefed.nullspace.lol · 22 pts · 115d
That's marinara. You're thinking of the Canadian province to the west of Ontario.
Whirling_Ashandarei@lemmy.world · 26 pts · 115d
That's Manitoba. You're thinking of a person who is not loyal to their own country or political party because they are under the control or influence of another country or party.
myeyesburn@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 115d
That's manchurian. You're thinking of the largest, strongest and only movable bone in the human face.
macji@pawb.social · 16 pts · 115d
That's mandible. You're thinking of the chains that go around the hands and feet of prisoners.
eaterofclowns@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 115d
That's mandible. You're thinking of a two player board game where people take turns moving beads around small holes to capture one another's pieces.
Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world · 62 pts · 115d
Wait until people watch old shows from the 90s set in NYC, and there's these two buildings in the skyline. But when you go to NYC, those buildings DON'T EVEN EXIST!!!
MousePotatoDoesStuff@piefed.social · 46 pts · 114d
Thar reminds me how I misread "Disney" as "Disnep" in their cursive logo for a long time in my childhood. Does that mean there is a Disnep dimension out there? :P
Leviathan@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 114d
Gisnep
ivanafterall@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 114d
Yes, that branched new timelines where Disnep owns everything, etc. It's pretty basic science.
Skullgrid@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 114d
I joke that it can be read as disneyp because of the fucking cursive too
SaraTonin@lemmy.world · 38 pts · 114d
The Mandela effect is for people whose ego is so large that they believe that being catapulted into a parallel dimension without having noticed is a more plausible explanation than that they’re slightly wrong about something insignificant
underscores@lemmy.zip · 15 pts · 114d
the panel on the right is in fact right, the weird logo stuff bothers me because.
The typos? You better believe it, you read that wrong, but see point 3 as well.
TriflingToad@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 114d
as much as I want to think it's only ego, there's absolutely no way SO many people independently of each other remember the fruit of the loom logo had a cornucopia
...granted there's absolutely no way the solution to this conundrum is an alternate universe lmao
wabasso@lemmy.ca · 13 pts · 114d
I’m with you on the cornucopia, there’s no way that logo didn’t exist somewhere.
FosterMolasses@leminal.space · 4 pts · 113d
Also keep in mind that nowadays we live in an age where something as insignificant as a logo change becomes headline news.
It's entirely possible the company ran some market analysis and discreetly changed the logo a few decades ago. Maybe a shirt still exists out there with that logo, but it's hard to find since cheap t-shirts and underwear don't last as long as something like tailored vintage clothing. I'm sure if you spend enough time searching on the internet you might find something, but personally I cannae be arsed
FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 110d
A plausible theory I saw on the cornucopia is that some knockoff brand used it and the knockoff brand had poorer quality clothes and so none of it is around anymore
agent_nycto@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 113d
I make an active choice to believe I got catapulted into another dimension because that's more entertaining and interesting than being slightly wrong, thank you very much!
FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 110d
The human brain has a tendency to see what it expects to see. That's why most people don't notice I've been deliberately misspelling Untied States for over a year. The brain just assumes it says what they expect it to say
ivanafterall@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 113d
Agent Smith, everybody.
Furbag@lemmy.world · 37 pts · 114d
The cornucopia was there. I swear on my life I saw it.
I'm now convinced that there was a knock-off brand that posed as Fruit of the Loom for years with the altered logo. That's the only explanation I'll accept. Mandela effect my ass.
ThunderQueen@lemmy.world · 24 pts · 114d
Pandasdontfly@anarchist.nexus · 8 pts · 113d
Literally the same for me, except it was my father. Not that I believe the Mandela effect per se, but I really wish I had a proper explanation for that one.
tetris11@feddit.uk · 5 pts · 113d
maybe your father is his mother in an alternate house
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 6 pts · 113d
Years ago, after 57 Chevies became the iconic representation of the 50s, and got REAL popular, I read about how there were far more 57 Chevies around than could be accounted for by official production.
It turns out that there were:
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/chevy-duty/
Quadhammer@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 112d
Think probably what happened is the packaging had the cornucopia on it and it was very large and obvious and now no one has a sealed pack of underwear from the 90s
homes@piefed.world · 32 pts · 115d
If you’re gonna post shit like this, at least make a list for those of us who are dyslexic or neurodivergent or too damn lazy…
SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 42 pts · 115d
Left hand is what people "remember" right hand is actual reality.
Anyone who remembered it as "Looney Toons" and not "Looney Tunes" apparently missed the "Merrie Melodies" as well.
I dunno, so many of these I remember them as they actually exist.
kboos1@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 115d
Looney Tunes was called Looney Tunes because they we cartoons that had nothing to do with the music but WB had to use the music in some way to keep the rights. So Looney Tunes are music videos. Change my mind.
SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 10 pts · 114d
I'm pretty sure the earliest ones didn't have dialogue and thus were effectively music videos.
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 113d
They didn't have nothing to do with the music, they were literally set to the music. The music was used for emphasis and sound effects, etc.
DisgruntledGorillaGang@reddthat.com · 9 pts · 114d
And Silly Symphonies!
homes@piefed.world · 2 pts · 115d
Some of them are real, some of them are not. The Febreze one for example is fake.
SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 21 pts · 115d
Fruit of the Loom with the Cornucopia: Fake
Curious George with a tail: Fake (I know because I had the fucking Curious George huffing ether shirt in college.)
Chic-Fil-A: Fake (Link to Chick-Fil-A's founder S. Truet Cathy's book "Eat Mor Chikin" published in 2002)
Looney Toons: Fake
Fruit Loops: Fake
Oscar Meyer: Fake (I often confused the two spellings as a kid because we often bought Oscar Mayer hot dogs from Fred Meyer.)
Berenstein Bears: Not fake, more of a matter of different publications running with different spellings.
Jiffy: Fake
Febreeze: Fake (link to archived post from 1996 in an ad magazine announcing P&G releasing Febreze)
Okay Maybe I'll come back and finish digging up the evidence for all of these, but literally the Pikachu one is the only one I'm unsure about. I'm positive everything else on the left hand side has been completely debunked or is a situation like the Berenstain Bears where different publishers used different spellings, especially in the home videos.
zikzak025@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 114d
Pikachu with a dark tail tip is definitely fake. The main variation that was added later on was a heart-shaped tail for female Pikachu, and like another user mentioned, marking that one black for the unique Cosplay Pikachu.
otter@lemmy.ca · 6 pts · 114d
I think the Pikachu one comes from associating it with Pichu
https://pokemondb.net/pokedex/pichu
redsand@infosec.pub · 2 pts · 114d
Now I have to dig through my art because I remember drawing that pikachu tip and I was only into pokemon for gen 1
Holytimes@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 114d
Its actually not, back in the 90s due to communication issues, poor management of merch and inconsistent official art avaiablity during the red/blue era. A lot of odd ball designs have existed for a number of pokemon.
Pikachu with a black tail tip, brown, a garident all exist. The early water colors being poorly maintained also caused issues with it. Not to mention third party manufactures basing it off pokemon card art or art from the actual artists that never actually was ment to be reference material.
I use to have a number of Pikachu toys as a kid. There were more designs then you can count. Fat Pikachu was highly inconsistent.
homes@piefed.world · 5 pts · 115d
Ferris Bueller you’re my hero
Exatron@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 114d
I worked in a library twenty something years ago and once held copies of the same Berenstain/Berenstein Bears story, but with the different spellings.
You're right that they just changed it in subsequent printings. Over time, the older copies wore out and got replaced by the new editions.
ClipperDefiance@piefed.social · 4 pts · 115d
The Pikachu might be based on Cosplay Pikachu from Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire.
Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 115d
Well sure it's been debunked but the myth is that a timeline jump means historical records are going to be different from your memory.
So the proof that Looney Tunes is a myth isn't in historical documents but from my memory where I know it was Tunes because of Merry Melodies. My memory agrees with historical proof.
PurplebeanZ@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 113d
The fabreeze on the left is definitely real though. I have a bottle like that.
SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 113d
This doesn't have enough pixels to tell but the difference is the spelling. The left has "Febreeze" and the right has the correct "Febreze."
inari@piefed.zip · 28 pts · 114d
The Pikachu one might been an influence from the Pichu design.
Ezergill@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 114d
Nah, the bootleg merch we got in the post-Soviet countries had the black tail tip long before Pichu was a thing.
SaraTonin@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 114d
…or DID it…?
Holytimes@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 114d
Its actually just due to old Pokemon cards and early merch. Early pokemon merch and card art were not accurate to the game.
It was proven that both designs of Pikachu were used back in the 90s. Along with a few other designs that people have just forgotten about.
Pokemon where not nearly as fixed in design back in the 90s as they are today.
Arachnidbrilliant@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 114d
el_muerte@lemmy.ca · 22 pts · 114d
Froot Loops has always been that way. Back when I was a kid, they only had three colours - red, orange, and yellow - and I remember being bothered that they had to repeat one of them. Problem got solved when they rolled out green.
ivanafterall@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 114d
Blue and purple must have rocked your world.
AnarchoEngineer@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 22 pts · 115d
I recently did some digging on the fruit of the loom logo because I remember learning the word cornucopia and connecting it with the logo on my T-shirts and underwear.
Yeah, I was mistaken. The dye on some of the clothes just made the logo look like there was a cornucopia. Like the leaves on the side being brown and a tiny bit of those leaves at the top right with the small white grapes at the bottom right also looking the same brown color? It definitely looks like a cornucopia until you look very closely.
(The logo shown in the image above is a more modern one, look at the earlier ones from around the turn of this century and you’ll see it better)
Akasazh@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 114d
Yeah that one was a real mindfuck to me too. I haven't seen all of these as a kid, as I'm not from the states. We don't get all that many fruit of the loom shirts here, dit from the ones I saw I was sure about the cornucopia.
SalmiakDragon@feddit.nu · 3 pts · 114d
Snopes debunking
They have a collection of old FotL-logos in there, can't really tell which one you're describing.
MagnyusG@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 115d
Looney "Toons" is the stupidest one.
It was always a pun on toons by spelling it "Tunes" and because music is extremely prominent for it.
FrChazzz@lemmus.org · 9 pts · 114d
Disney had cartoon shorts were called "Silly Symphonies." Not sure which came first, but one is a play on the other.
Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 114d
Especially in the early ones; they were basically ads to sell music from the Warner music catalog.
basxto@discuss.tchncs.de · 1 pts · 114d
I never got it as a kid, partly because it was a difficult pun for that age. I didn’t know the word tune nor would I later pronounce it like that. The first forms of that word, I ran into, were radio tuner and car tuning, nothing I’d associate with music
brownsugga@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 114d
It wasn't Chic-fil-a it was Chik-fil-A I am From Atlanta
rmuk@feddit.uk · 3 pts · 114d
I can see why they would change it. No-one is eating at a place called Chik-fil-A I am From Atlanta, especially when there's a Carl's Jr But I Think That's Regional nearby.
brownsugga@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 113d
LOL good take
SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 17 pts · 114d
Isn't Jiffy a brand of quickbake mixes? In the little blue boxes
https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEimS-PPpzfKtvuxmHSIAFvrJCKIhDaTJN_u2VqQrexzpYJeyQ67sQEN75TE66rfYIqqYsLa4Lnz3NjXZcOMATO6tlqV2RLE2njqpFeRpHgV9tigS6srbcheYy2o7fRKZbbvmrdyTmkgNVY/s1600/valentine+social+enchiladas+005.JPG
exasperation@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 14 pts · 114d
I think a lot of these can be explained as wires being crossed with mixed memories. Memories of the Jiffy boxes in the cupboard next to Jif peanut butter might have mixed things up to where people misremember whether there was ever a Jiffy peanut butter.
Chick-fil-A, same thing. Being a kid and thinking "wow that's a weird way to spell it" about the "fil-A" part and somehow blending it into believing it was about the "Chick" part. Looney Tunes, Froot Loops, Berenstain Bears, all similar processes.
The Sinbad Shazaam movie is almost certainly a mashup of a memories of Shaq's Kazaam, the Sinbad cartoon movie from 1992, and Sinbad dressing like a Mediterranean/middle eastern pirate in All That.
The thing I cannot explain, though, is the Fruit of the Loom cornucopia. I remember it that way, and I can't find anything like that.
frostysauce@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 114d
I assumed Jiffy was a mashup of Jif and Skippy.
vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 114d
My money for the Fruit of the Loom cornucopia is that it a good quality bootleg called Fruit of Loom or something that got nuked at some point for copyright infringement. Kinda like all those bootleg Adidas brands.
meekah@discuss.tchncs.de · 6 pts · 114d
pro-tip: putting image URLs in your comment like this:
makes the image show up in your comment rather than just the URL::: spoiler I ended up making a quick tampermonkey script to convert image links to image elements
this probably needs some work on the
isImageUrlfunction but it works for this instance at least hahaoh and I guess it needs to be re-executed for when more comments are loaded by scrolling. in that case the already created image elements would double up, but you could just delete the original image link... it is quick and dirty after all
edit: V2 is here
:::
codexarcanum@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 5 pts · 114d
Yes, Jiffy is a very popular and inexpensive brand of corn bread mix, in groceries all over down here.
Syltti@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 114d
This one is a brand of peanut butter, I believe.
Korne127@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 115d
The right one is correct
ivanafterall@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 115d
I wonder how much they're paying you to say that.
Ganbat@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 7 pts · 115d
$7.25
BangelaQuirkel@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 114d
That’s tree fiddy with interest
CanadianCarl@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 114d
Tree fiddy
SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 115d
Except for a few
ivanafterall@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 115d
Like the cornucopia. Indisputable we jumped timelines on that one.
GorGor@startrek.website · 12 pts · 115d
My favorite take on the subject Internet Comment Etiquette: "The Mandela Effect"
rumba@lemmy.zip · 11 pts · 113d
If you're of a certain age, you can't get Oscar Mayer wrong.
My bologna has a first name. It's O-S-C-A-R. My bologna has a second name. It's M-A-Y-E-R. Oscar Mayer has a way with B-O-L-O-G-N-A
ivanafterall@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 113d
100%, this wasn't one I remembered differently.
rumba@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 113d
nope, Fruit of the loom got me, i had seen the monopoly and curious george ones had no tail, but they knocked me for a loop a decade ago, Looney Toons was kind of shadowy in my mind, toones makes more sense, but the "merry melodies" moniker muddled the water, we brain cells. I always called the bears by what sounds like the first one, but i always knew it wasn't spelled that way, i remmeber reading the books when I was young and my parents corrected the pronoinciation on me. I went with it because ... 'english' but i always knew it wasn't spelled like we said it, we don't genrally promounce february and wednesday very well so who was 5 year old me to argue with an adult that would smack my ass for being argumentative. :)
null@lemmy.org · 10 pts · 114d
Perhaps dyslexia would explain some of these?
JoShmoe@ani.social · 9 pts · 115d
What’s different with the bears?
ivanafterall@lemmy.world · 23 pts · 115d
Berenstein in the original universe versus Berenstain in our current twisted timeline.
JoShmoe@ani.social · 8 pts · 115d
How exactly did you access our parent universe? If you say you used AI i’m leaving.
ivanafterall@lemmy.world · 26 pts · 115d
fahfahfahfah@lemmy.billiam.net · 7 pts · 115d
I think this one has been explained by the fact that there was a lot of typos on VHS tape labels and such when we were kids
charokol@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 115d
I doubt those typos are the reason people misremember, but it does show how easy it is to get the name mixed up
vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 114d
Between that and also the suffix stein is a lot more common than stain. Hell the ein ending is practically lousy in much of the Germanic tongues.
SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 115d
It's Berenstien.
ivanafterall@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 115d
And Nelson Muntz is still President of South Africa?
SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 115d
Ha, ha!
FollyDolly@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 115d
This is the only one that makes me question reality. My dad spent a lot of time working in Germany before I was born and we had decorative beer steins all over the house. I remember asking about them and as I started to read being told, "see it's steins, like Daddy's fancy mugs." What the in the alternate memory making dimension hole is going on here!?
nightwatch_admin@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 114d
Missed opportunity for fruit of the loin
garbagebagel@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 115d
Whats wrong with the febreeze one? They did used to use those bottles, right? I'm pretty sure I have one around somewhere.
ivanafterall@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 115d
The man would have you believe it's always been Febreze, one e.
homes@piefed.world · 9 pts · 115d
Febrize according to the photo, but I went to check a recent purchase, and unless the change was made yesterday, it’s not real.
And Jif has been Jif since at least the 80s when I was a kid. Here’s my proof.
Also a Jif (and a Jeff):
ivanafterall@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 115d
Is that Shaq's genie movie?
homes@piefed.world · 2 pts · 115d
lol
garbagebagel@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 114d
Wtf I hate this timeline
YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today · 8 pts · 114d
Chic fil a is a new one, and I know for a fucking fact it used to be chic! Iv remember being a kid and thinking "that's a strange way to spell it"
tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip · 8 pts · 114d
I can confirm the current universe chick fil a because I'd never seen or heard it until I was an adult, which was before they got infamous for being anti LGBT. When I first drove past the sign I asked the people I was with "WTF is chick feel ah?" If it'd been "chic" I would've pronounced it like the French loanword (ie "sheek").
Zoomboingding@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 114d
I thought "Chick filla" was some kind of entendre until I actually learned about them
ivanafterall@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 113d
That's a new one.
MojoMcJojo@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 113d
Opposite for me. I remember being bothered that they didn't spell chick right. I wonder if the other universes me is happy...
ivanafterall@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 113d
Still no. :(
RattlerSix@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 113d
I'm convinced that the Mandela effect is just self gaslighting. I don't have any strong memories about any of these things, so when someone shows me one I think it's right, then I have a hard time believing it's not right. If I was shown the correct one first the Mandela effect wouldn't exist for me.
FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 110d
My aunt tried to "prove" the Mandela effect to me by asking how I remember the spelling of KitKat. I misremembered it with a hyphen. What she fails to understand is it proves nothing to me because I never claimed to have perfect memory
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 5 pts · 114d
i assume febreeze went through a formula change and it sucks now, likely cheapflation?
Itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 113d
Its almost as if these companies keep altering their logos because that would be insane.
stupidcasey@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 113d
I give up, what's the difference between the two Chick-fil-A?
sibannac@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 113d
k
ivanafterall@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 113d
Just the spelling: Chic-fil-A vs. Chick-fil-A.
ZigZagZebra@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 113d
I have specific memories of how the spelling of Chic-fil-a looked so wierd to me, especially at a mall where the word chic actually gets used.
hateisreality@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 112d
Me too... Plus Google would correct to chic .
Doom@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 113d
At this point I'm convinced it's corporate gaslighting. They KNOW there wasn't consistency because of franchisees, misprints, brand changes, inattentive advertising firms, mistranslations, knocknoffs, and different production lines hitting different specs. But do they own up to it? Nooooo. Apparently the collective society at large just "remembers" it wrong.
ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 114d
In my universe it was "Loony", not "Looney". There is no e dammit!
bss03@infosec.pub · 3 pts · 114d
https://wiredgourmet.medium.com/the-mandela-effect-is-a-racist-blunder-750b5d31d0c4
groucho@retrolemmy.com · 3 pts · 113d
Maybe instead of freaking out about the Mandela Effect, we should be freaking out with our willingness to just believe corporations at their word. Because that's who seems to have the final word in all of these things, especially in situations where you can't go back and check original artifacts. I'm guessing there's still some old Berenstain Bears books at garage sales and vintage Pikachu merch is everywhere, but who's holding onto 40 year-old underwear or peanut butter jars?
Here's a recent example: Dairy Queen introduced a new Blizzard about ten years ago. It started with a solid chocolate core with ice cream around it. They called it the Fudge Tunnel Blizzard. It was there, on the drivethrough sign, and my friends and I had a field day with it. The branding lasted for a few weeks and then it completely disappeared.
I can't find branding anywhere on the internet. I know it was there, my friends saw it was there. Nobody took a picture and it vanished. I can't find it on google. It's gone. Well, there's some mention of them adding a "tunnel of fudge" to the Royal Blizzard in 2017, but there's zero surviving marketing material for the original concept which definitely did not have a golden spoon. I know this because I ordered it. Repeatedly. To make the people behind the intercom say it back to me.
It makes sense that they'd want to scrub everything that ever mentioned eating a Fudge Tunnel at Dairy Queen. For the other stuff.... who knows? Marketing departments churn, stuff gets lost, short-run logos get left out of the brand evolution. Yeah, some of this is Mandela effect but can we stop treating corporations as the ultimate authority?
bss03@infosec.pub · 2 pts · 113d
I refuse to treat the lack of evidence the same as evidence. "Source: Trust me, bro" is not valid, whether "me" is "Internet Rando" or "Big Corp".
groucho@retrolemmy.com · 1 pts · 112d
Yeah, exactly. I get how the Mandela effect works psychologically, I just don't love that a lot of them end with "corporation says no."
hateisreality@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 112d
Wow.
groucho@retrolemmy.com · 1 pts · 112d
Yeah they really shouldn't have done the cross section.
Rampsquatch@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 115d
"i don't have a faulty memory, it was that African space warlock Mandela fucking with the timeline again!"
Arachnidbrilliant@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 114d
Epp@lemmus.org · 2 pts · 114d
Are you in?
Arachnidbrilliant@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 114d
Epp@lemmus.org · 2 pts · 114d
BlindFrog@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 114d
Son of a BiTcH
Rolive@discuss.tchncs.de · 2 pts · 113d
In my universe it's not Berenstain nor Berenstein...
UltraBlack@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 113d
I hate this stupid-english product naming scheme so much
FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 110d
I must admit, some of the fake ones look right to me. I don't get how people misremember the spelling of Froot Loops though. How do you not remember the extra Os made of froot loops?
HumbleBragger@piefed.social · 2 pts · 112d
This looks like one of those ADHD tests I took. I failed them...found like one or two differences but they all look the same to me. I'm not American though
fitgse@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 115d
I always thought it was the _Bear_enstein Bears.
xx3rawr@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 114d
You're from the original original universe
glitchdx@lemmy.world · -3 pts · 114d
Many of these discrepancies can be attributed to regional differences.
A famous example: Was it the Berenstain Bears or the Berenstein Bears? The truth is both, just depending on where you got your books from
edit: fucking nevermind, it's already in the post
jve@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 114d
This is false. It’s actually incredible that you could go out of your way to make this false statement, with no supporting evidence.
Tetragrade@leminal.space · 4 pts · 114d
Don't be rude, maybe it was like that in his original worldline.
jve@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 114d
Of all the examples here… this one is a persons last name. Why would that be a regional difference?
Tetragrade@leminal.space · 3 pts · 114d
How would you know, are you from their dimension?