Work paid for ChatGPT and asked us to all use it. Not a hard requirement but they were insisting we try to use it to see if it could speed up work.
I'm in a Nordic country. I haven't had an email longer than a single paragraph. Documents are already as concise with good organization. The documentation is optimized so AI "summaries" only translates it into longer form tech bro speak. Just looking it up directly is faster.
I needed to do batch operations on database files without providing admin access. The same database we all work on. It suggested i could do so with a script. This was a flat out lie, with multiple responses hitting the same block. I felt sick about using it so i dropped it for fear of them attempting to try it with admin access.
Haven't used it since those few prompts. Yet i get monthly emails talking about how we're running out of credits every month. I'm guessing one of my coworkers has an AI romance...
The company I work for paid for Claude and has made it mandatory that we use it. It's actually insane.
We also have "Code Rabbit" leaving LLM reviews on our PRs. It's hilarious how often it completely misses the actual change and just waxes eloquent on the formatting changes that our linter enforces when we commit a change to a file that hasn't been touched since prior to our current linter rules.
Even crazier, I've had a VP complain to me directly how much he hates reading LLM generated text that someone just spat out at him.
My favorite part of AI PR reviews is that I'll fix one of its comments, which leads to a new comment. I fix that one and the new review suggests I actually try just doing the implementation that I started with
Yeah the company is treating it as an "exploration" but the experiment turned into a regular sub without much scrutiny like a streaming service you forgot you had opted into the trial for.
In the recent thread here about the doctolorow article an army of AI dweebs were proselytizing our great AI overlords.
I want to be open minded, and will remain so, but as yet I haven't seen any significant clear benefits to the use of AI.
My observations are telling me it's all emperors new clothes, but listening to the commentary of anyone not on Lemmy it would seem I am mistaken. I'm not arrogant enough to believe I'm right and everyone else is wrong, but this remains a mystery to me.
Way ahead of you bud. Or behind, however you want to look at it. Personally I don't think not choosing AI makes me backward, but then again I probably am a bit of a Luddite.
You think lack of AI is your ally? I was born in it, molded by it. I didn't touch AI until ... actually, I still haven't touched the shit, and I don't plan to.
Edit: yes, I know about the original Luddites, you'd be at least the fourth person to point it out. I get it, thanks 😄
It all depends. One one hand, "Luddite" can have almost lazy vibes, people who "blanket distrust" anything newer than fire because they can't be fucked learning how the 'puter/rotary telephone/wheel works. Then there's "this whole thing is a stupid grift which sucks at everything and can fuck right off, and here are several dozen good reasons why"
The term Luddite got co-opted, propagandized. They're the guys who dropped wrenches in the machinery to protest exploitation at the hands of factory owners. They're exactly the example we need now. Modern Luddites are knocking down Flock cameras right now, and there is a lot further to go.
The OG Luddites are victims of bad press and propaganda against them. As a whole, they were less against progress in general and more against how only factory and business owners benefited from that progress, while workers got very little benefit, often instead losing their livelihoods.
Even more severe, the owner class got the government to classify property damage as punishable by death. They were actively having the government kill Luddites who had not (at the time) even so much as injured a person.
I write stories, I draw, I animate, I DM my D&D games, all without AI.
Because, funny enough, the intellectual and creative labor is highly rewarding, and handing that to a robot seems ridiculous. Especially when it can't even do it right. This isn't like using power tools to make furniture. This is like using power tools to sculpt a very delicate statue.
Have fun spending hours fixing shit the bot broke.
With TTRPGs particularly the intellectual and creative labour isn't just rewarding, it often is the reward. Farming that out to an AI is already pointless before the AI fucks it all up.
Id LOVE to be able to get through my day without touching AI. And by that I mean closing the forced AI "features" in apps I use for work like that CoPilot bar every time I open Word, 2 AI pOwErEd tabs/popups from Adobe anytime I open a PDF, and closing out the copilot task bar when that invisible window blocks 2/3 of my primary monitor
Well, I regularly get the AI replies from Google searches, but i skip them. I am the only developer in my team who does not use AI. And sometimes I wonder if I'm the only one who can still think without crutches.
They had Google lens (machine learning) before chat gpt was released to the public (llm), so i don't usually paint it by the same AI brush.
I've used it quite a few times and it works pretty well for identifying things.
I've had a similar problem using it though. Most of the time it's bang on, but sometimes with really hard problems, it is confidently wrong, and returns a bunch of things that look similar but are significantly different from your picture. If you are used to it being correct and aren't in the habit of thinking critically about its answer, it is easy to be mislead by its oracular answers.
Why is it so hard for these idiots to grasp that the process of actually making something yourself IS THE FULFILLING PART.
It's not the end result that is where the fulfillment comes in when I'm programming something or writing something; it's the knowledge that I MADE IT and as a result I have now accomplished something. If you tell an LLM what to do and they do it, you haven't accomplished anything. You haven't earned it and you have no right to be proud of it.
Hell, if an LLM came about that could mow my damn lawn so that I could spend more time writing and programming and 3D modelling and video editing, etc... than hot damn...THAT would be something I would pay for.
At what point did the adage "It's not the destination, it's the journey" cease being meaningful to these morons?
I'm not sure it's so black and white, LLMs (even frontier ones) are total spaghetti merchants if you let them anywhere near the architecture but I get zero fulfillment from manually solving merge conflicts, setting up someone's fragile idea of a config, or other tedious stuff like that.
I do dislike how many people seem to want the profession to change into being the meatshield between Claude and prod though.
I get zero fulfillment from manually solving merge conflicts, setting up someone’s fragile idea of a config, or other tedious stuff like that
For sure. And it's tedious crap like that where A.I can have a limited scope of usefullness. I WANT A.I. to handle all the boring shit so that I can get on with doing the creative side of programming. But CEO's want it exactly the other way around. Rather than A.I. being your assistant, you become its assistant, it's proof reader.
I will happily plug a snippet of code into an AI if it's not working and I need a second set of eyes on it to see where I missed a goddamned colon. But that's as far as it ever should go. I don't want it writing code for me, but it can make a pretty good proof-reader so that I can solve an issue and get on with writing faster.
I go to work and I build chairs. It takes me all day to build one chair. I carry shit, I cut shit, I sand shit, I paint shit, I hammer and nail shit, etc... at the end of the day I'm hot, I'm dirty, I'm tired, and somewhere along the way I hurt myself a little bit so I got some minor scrapes and bruises
But I sit back, look at my chair, and I'm proud. That's what I do. I make chairs.
It's not glamourous, but that is what I do. I am a carpenter. Not just by profession, but by choice. This is what I wanted to do. It's what I became. I'm a father, and I'm a soccer fan, but also, I'm a carpenter
Then along comes a robot that can build a chair all by itself. This is great! Just because the robot can build a chair all by itself doesn't mean it has to. What it does mean is that it can help me build a chair. If I need help carrying the wood, it can carry the wood. If I don't want to sand, I can tell it to sand. It's not a "wood carrying robot" or a "sanding robot", it's a "Chair building robot" and now I can ask it to help me with any step along the way
But then my boss finds out about this chair building robot. Suddenly he doesn't want me to build the chair at all anymore, he just wants me to tell the robot to do it
This is sad. I'm no longer a carpenter. I've lost the meaning in my job.
I go to work, I tell a robot to build a chair, I just sit back and correct any mistakes it makes.
But hey, if the robot can build a chair in 30 minutes, and I'm only responsible for one chair a day, I guess the good news is that I get to keep my job, I make the same amount of money, but now I only have to work for about an hour a day. Clock in, tell the robot to build a chair, watch it for 30 minutes, fix it's mistakes, clock out. Same money for an hours worth of work
Nope
I'm now responsible for 9 chairs a day
9 chairs! We'll I'll get 9 times the pay right?
Nope
So I keep my job, I make the same amount of money, I work the same amount of hours, but also my job gives me zero satisfaction in life and now I'm responsible for 9 times the amount of work. Also, I'm no longer a carpenter
Again, that's what I wanted to be. I went to school for it. When I was younger and they asked, "what do you want to be when you grow up", I said, "a carpenter". I was a carpenter. I was happy. My boss took that from me. He didn't fire me, he just took away the position of "carpenter".
How is this a good thing?
OK, well, I'm an optimist. Times change I guess, you can't be a guy that makes cannon balls forever. Lets see what the future hold. I go to work, I tell the robot to build the chair and now I got nothing to do for 30 minutes. Neither do my coworkers. So we bring in some TVs, we set up some chairs, we play Mario Kart and watch soccer matches while the robot builds the chair. Every 30 minutes I have to get up, inspect a chair, and tell the robot to build it again, and then it's back to Mario Kart
At least my job is much more enjoyable in that sense I guess. I laugh at a lot more at work
Then my boss comes in and sees us all standing around laughing, playing video games, and watching TV. He's sees us happy
He's big mad
But why? We're each producing 9 times the amount of chairs in the same amount of time for the same amount of money using the robot he wanted us to use. How is he not happy about that? He's getting more chairs in the same amount of time without having to pay anyone any extra money.
He's big mad
The next day I come to work and there's a big console with 200 buttons on it. Each button tells one of 200 robots to build a chair. It takes me 30 minutes to push all 200 buttons. By the time I've pushed the last button, it's time to push the first button again
Now I go to work, I work the same hours, I make the same pay, I make 3,200 chairs a day, I have zero job satisfaction, I have zero fun, I'm not a carpenter
Then my boss has the nerve to get on Social Media and post: "Chair building robots are great. Imagine life without them, how awful!"
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AI is a great tool for doing all the boring shit you don't want to do. It's great for automated process, basic code reviews, pipeline management, etc... I'm glad it can help me write a complex query or figure out what the hell this error message means and what in my code might be causing it.
I'm glad it can help me do new things... I don't want to be a game developer but making a game sounds fun. It's a different kind of challenge and it's nice Claude Code can step in and basically hand-hold me through my controllers and such. It's a great teacher
What I don't want is to be forced to use it to do my entire job... I don't want to product code by only prompting claude
I like writing code. I like knowing the code I pushed is beautiful. Clean, well organized, good folder structures, etc... I like people opening up my projects and going, "damn, this is nice".
I do not like that people assume Claude did it
I don't hate AI, but we need to get past this initial phase of upper management not knowing how to properly use it and thinking it's a magic tool that can do everything for us, instead of a fantastic assistant that we should use at our own descension
That being said, AI is not going away. It's not just a dumb toy for making bad music and shitty TikTok reels. It's incredibly helpful and it's here to stay. In that sense, Anti-AI shit is as embarrassing as this over-the-top pro AI shit.
Yeah it's like that recent adage isn't it: I want AI to automate all my drudgery so I can spend more time being creative, but Silicon Valley is automating all my creativity so I can spend more time doing drudgery.
I've been saying for a while that having AI make art for you is basically the same as a commission. When you commission a painting, you describe what you want, someone else paints it for you and gives it to you for money. Same sort of thing here, except shittier because no artist gets paid. But the same end result - you might own the end result, but you didn't create it.
100% I believe the exact same thing. If a person commisions a painting, but the painter is a computer, it doesn't transfer the title of "artist" onto the person who commisioned the painting.
They want credit for their "creative work" when really all they are is a middle manager with no actual employees.
How long do those middle-management chucklefucks think it'll be before CEO's realize that they can just ask the computer themselves?
On one hand I agree, on the other hand try making that argument to management at the majority of software firms and see where it gets you. There's little commercial incentive for 'artisinal code' outside of niche sectors in my view, and commercial incentives overrule all else at the end of the day. I don't think this is morally right but this is the wider problem of which overreliance on AI is merely one expression I think
I don’t think this is morally right but this is the wider problem of which overreliance on AI is merely one expression I think
Oh absolutely. Corporations shoving AI down our throats is a symptom of a much wider problem for sure. It's just the latest tool in the age old mantra that states that "In order to increase profit, you can either make more or spend less."
Somewhere in around the 80's, corporations realized that labour was their largest expense, and from that point on, employees became just another line item on a spreadsheet. Something to be managed and minimized as much as possible. They try to squeeze that labour metric down as much as possible to achieve more profit without having to increase revenue at the same time, thereby making the stock price rise.
Humans stopped being an equation in business a long long time ago.
We hired this senior dev ... when we asked what this PR (code change request) was, he didn't know. He stammered and then regurgitated what AI told him. I had to tell him, he's on thin ice if he thinks he can vibe his way through this job.
All his work is AI comments everywhere. I'm like, you didn't read what you wrote. What fucking relevance is putting down all of this info? I said, if you don't have the courtesy to read it, then why the fuck am I? There's little respect for my time in dealing with those that use it so much.
So, yes, I can very much deal in a world without AI. It may be slower in some areas but yes I can. Especially if it means exposing all my shitty coworkers work habits.
I'm pretty anti-AI but my work is pushing it so hard on us that there are situations I have been forced to use it to show how incorrectly it is doing the work. Could def live without that.
I'm pretty anti AI. I don't have a coding background but I would like to transition from sys admin. So I am learning but job has pushing to use AI to make faster results then I were to do it by hand :/ Still trying to learn out of work.
Me. It's so much slop but at the same time if I grab a bunch of text from a spec book or web, I can tell it to reformat the columns and strip out stuff in a single line.
I could do the same with grep, sed, sort, trim etc but it would take longer
I genuinely don't understand how people get through their day WITH ai, I've experimented with integrating it, and it's absolutely terrible. It sucks at everything beyond NLUI applications.
The most useful I’ve found it is saving me from looking up which tables data is stored in for certain security products and only because it is faster than using search engines now that they’re all useless.
Yeah slowly burning out because of it, because I have to review through multiple hundreds lines of mostly unreviewed slop-code of colleagues daily...
Once I really enjoyed coding and high quality of code, that is rather quickly eroding away... Kinda sad how all kinds of art is inflated by low effort and low quality slop.
I worked for 30 years before it existed, and the first 10 of those there were barely an internet. Never had a problem. We had these things called books and libraries.
I've been testing the chat bots for about a year. What kind of idiot would trust any of their answers for their work?
One of the first questions i asked them for was the IRMAA Medicare Income Brackets. They got them wrong.
Just asked again. This time they got them right. I'd never trust them with anything important.
The trust thing is it for me. People are like, you could use them for your job, it'll save you time. Like, it saves me exactly zero time if I have to go back and check its work, because that's what I would've been doing anyway! And now, instead of my mistakes, which I'm very familiar with, I have the hallucinations of some machine to contend with.
I always think it's weird when they say nobody could write 10 pages or whatever without AI. I write for a living and grew up before all of this (I didn't have the internet until I was a teenager) and under the right conditions (IE a good amount of caffeine and people leave me alone) I can write 10,000 words in a single sitting lol.
I use to work for the army and flew a desk. By the time I retired my word smithing skills were great. Just put a pc in front of me and I will fill your document with all the relevant buzz words, needed to get managements and procurements buy in.
If Donald Trump ordered Big Tech to turn off all of your country’s chatbots tomorrow, nothing would change. Every one of your country’s ministries and corporations would chug on with nary a hitch. Households, too, though perhaps a few of the younger members of those families would have to do their own homework again.
Contrast this with what would transpire if Trump directed his tech giants to switch off your country’s Office 365 access, or to brick your Android and iOS phones, or to killswitch your John Deere tractors. Your country would effectively cease to exist.
Sure, tons of people are using AI, but that isn't because they need AI to get their jobs done or even that AI makes their jobs easier. It's because their bosses are convinced that they need to be using AI because it will change everything.
"If the internet disappeared tomorrow, could you still get through an entire workday?"
"If electricity disappeared tomorrow, could you still get through an entire workday?"
"If gasoline disappeared tomorrow, could you still get through an entire workday?"
Yeah society eventually gets us addicted to many things for basic existence that we really should not be relying on. Hell, add even things like GPS, cell towers, and more to that list, we take so much for granted that could be rugpulled at any moment.
I'm glad that AI has not reached the stage of "if the internet disappeared" yet, because I work in IT and I don't think I could get through a workday without the internet, but for AI I wouldn't notice a difference, as all it does is transcribe my conversations, which I already do manually anyway.
To those two, my answer is: Internet and electricity, no because I work in IT and my job depends on those things, though this is obviously not true for all jobs. Gasoline, yes, I could; getting to my job might be a challenge currently because I currently need to take a rail replacement bus...
I just started a job as a manufacturing engineer. One of my main tasks thus far has been to make work instructions describing how to assemble product in assembly areas.
Recently one of my coworkers found a new job and left behind some paper copies of work instructions when he left. Unfortunately we couldn't find the digital copies of these work instructions on his computer. So I had to take the paper copies and make editible Visio documents that looked the same as the physical ones.
I hadn't used AI for work stuff before so I decided to try it.
So I scanned the paper copies and gave the resulting PDF's to copilot to see if it could just automatically make a Visio copy for me.
Suffice to say I ended up wasting an hour watching it create documents that were just a jumbled mess. After that I just gave up and did it on my own.
It took me 20 minutes to make copies of the 2 documents because all I needed to do was open a PDF viewer, highlight text, then ctrl-c ctrl-v.
I work in tech and I've never used AI for any reason ever. Never a question. Never code. My coworkers don't understand. I'm even required to use it in new and unique ways, and I'm not going to use something I'm going to learn to rely on, especially when my critical thinking is precious to me.
I mean... it is hard to get through the day without meth though? And some of you don't do meth? You're missing out.
The only bad part about meth is when you run out of meth, or I guess sometimes also when the shadow people keep torturing your dead grandma in front of you and you can't poop for a month and any time you go out in public people stare and you wish you could remember if you've showered since the last time you pooped and the voices whispering in the radio start telling you everyone is plotting against you and you need to kill them before they kill you.
I'm an IT guy, I have worked in IT support since 2007.
I have never ever ever needed AI for a single second in my job and seeing people use AI just annoys me.
Yes yes science and medicine people I know AI helps you.
Also IT since the mid-2000s. I "need" AI for my job now... because my company went in for it, told us to use it, and cut our support staff by 40% over the past year so there's not enough time to actually work and investigate case issues properly anymore and we're all completely overloaded. We're basically a skeleton crew now. It can only be an effort to increase perceived value for a sell-off, or the company is in a death spiral. Probably both.
A day in 2026 without being forced into using AI wouls be divine. Searching for a thing and getting a thing (yes i use duckduckgo no ai). Paying my rent without my "landlord" "" jack"" asking me what im on the website to do. Writing a line of code without AI autocomplete. Oh man.
Would bet cash money these people have never touched even a basic stats lib/module in their life, let alone pytorch or tensorflow lol.
I kinda wanna see some funny ISP/Cloud outage that only breaks connections to model providers to see how entrenched people and services have become with AI.
Imagine rolling into work and the office is in flames because ChatGPT is down.
Let me put it in tech bro speak: most of my AI usage has been suitability evaluation.
In layman terms: does this shit even do what it's supposed to be doing.
It doesn't. There are few limited tasks where LLMs can be genuinely used as a tool (my favourite example is image captioning) but it still needs hand holding and can't work fully automatically. It'll fuck up, and I'll need my expertise to unfuck it.
They marketed AIs as "don't worry, you can just use it as a tool". It's a tool that is sometimes useful. This is not a high endorsement.
Now: it's my humble opinion one of the greatest tragedies of this AI boom is that it never should have been pushed to the mainstream. If LLMs had been left to the stage where they blatantly are now, they'd been left as marginal nerd toys. And all would have been well. But no, the Bros had to ruin it all and let us all discover myriad societal ills unfathomed by scifi authors. Thanks guys.
Uh yeah. Fuckin easy. I've tried AI. It was briefly kind of impressive, but added absolutely nothing to my life except the frustration of checking the answers for factual accuracy, which took even longer. I can't even think of a good use case.
I have a brain. I've put a lifetime of work into training it. I'll fight like hell anyone who tries to make me use it less.
I tried using it as OCR software to help me simplify splitting up a grocery receipt between me and my roommates.
It messed up some item names, fine, it got all the numbers right, but it wouldn't sum correctly in excel. I was totally baffled until I realized it used a non-unicode dollar sign symbol for some of the prices which caused excel to be unable to recognize those prices.
It took me longer to diagnose the issue and resolve it than it would have taken me to do the damn thing with a pencil and calculator.
Fuck AI.
Caveat edit: it does seem to work fine for instant and casual translation software. I wouldn't rely on it for anything that matters, but speaking casually between people with language barriers, works well enough. And that's p cool ngl
I might be an exception, but I do not enjoy using AI because I find the high possibility of hallucinations and misinformation quite repulsive. It's eerie and uncanny working with it, and I actively avoid using it apart from some development assistance. (Apart from all the ethical and environmental issues which are off-putting too)
I look at my ai use the same way I look at streaming services: cheap entertainment of middling quality and if it stops existing then nothing of value will be lost. Worst case scenario I have to actually write coherent notes, but I'm trying to drink less so that's already part of the plan anyway.
people won’t be able to extract information or do certain tasks without AI help
That's literally the mindset that drug dealers operate from: give a few, initial doses at a loss to get the person addicted. Then jack up the price because the addict can't function normally without the product.
I got local-running AI for images and text (but the text one is slow and not as good). And I can actually code just fine myself. I would probably be slower without Claude Code. But I would still be fully able to do my job.
This will change for the next generation which is growing up with AI. But right now, an AI outage isn't really that big of a deal.
So we definitely need open weight models and the hardware to run them to become available and affordable to everyone. Then a global AI outage becomes as unlikely as a global power outage.
I work in plane manufacturing, the use of ai is prohibited except for looking up simple information regarding the company, majority of the employees won't be affected except for maybe the higher ups writing a report or some other shit.
I rarely use AI. When I do have to use it for something I end up doing extra work because I always have to check and correct it's output seeing as every one of them is a lying liar who lies.
I'd say more like coffee. If you drink it every day, you are addicted and legit cannot work without it. But it does keep you focused when in a crunch. As for LLMs, they does have their uses, but they do not produce quality software.
The only place I knowingly and intentionally use AI is only at work and only code reviews (it's policy). I could 100% live without that, though I'd need to badger my coworkers. Unless AI is shoved in something else I'm unaware of, I'm not using it.
I don't really understand using AI for code reviews. Shouldn't it be the other way around?
I have my setup hooked up to SonarQube and compell it to run all its changes through that. I prefer a static analysis tool with predefined checks to keep the agent in line. I just have it do a TDD workflow using that as part of the refactor step.
My current company requires human code reviews as well but, on commit, it gets reviewed by copilot. Codepilot tends to make some mistakes, but it does catch some things (and, yes, I'd rather be using non-ai tools that also do that, but not my choice).
My experience is that prepping a code review with LLM is a safer bet than having a person review LLM code. None of this should replace static analysis or human code review, but it can provide a rapid feedback about something that looks off either to the original developer or helping a reviewer catch a detail that might have escaped their attention span. LLM missteps don't matter so much, since the audience is a human (an exceedingly high false positive rate is annoying, but not a disastor). Also why it makes for a handy facility for security, mistakes don't matter, missing something is no worse than before, false positives can be ignored.
If your scenario is well served by TDD with absoutely comprehensive test cases that can grade with absolute perfect coverage of all the scenarios, then code gen can thrash on that and make progress, though it's a bit token heavy because there's a fair amount of guesses and reguessing. But if you AI gen the tests and the code, then you might get into weird states. Even if you didn't mean to have the AI mess with the tests things can go south. A couple weeks back I tried to prompt up a change that I thought should have been reasonably within the capabilities of the model, along the way it failed a long standing test and fixed it by changing the test, making the determination that the test case needed correcting to let it pass, instead of trying to pass the test case. The test case was, in fact, correct, it screwed up.
Part of the problem is 'writing code' is about as diverse as 'writing text', and some folks are working in territory that the LLMs can chew through competently and others are places where the LLMs struggle, and then there's the person lulled into a sense of security by being in the former category until one day suddenly they are in the latter unexpectedly for no apparent reason.
I mean I would have a much harder time creating a "you're a fucking moron, go fuck yourself" email in a professional manner to some of my higher ups. Other than that, I would literally miss nothing about AI.
It's made my work life a lot easier, but do I need it? No. At the end of the day the only thing that would change is that things take longer to get done.
Even with AI, I still read the docs to understand what it wants to do. Half the time I need to challenge it or refine the criteria.
The one place it has been a godsend for me is working in unfamiliar areas (a new library, new code ase, etc). Helps me onboard so much faster. Has helped accelerate learning too. But do I NEED it. No I don't. I'm still smarter than it, and all that's needed is time.
Lol. AI was basically not a thing 5 years ago and the world wasn't a shithole where no one could do anything. Things actually got way worse for most of us since it's around, you dumb ass.
I'm curious how you use it. I self host and run local LLMs but I genuinely cannot find a use for it. I don't think the hardware is quite there for a useful home audible assistant but that's the best use case I can think of. Tell me the time and create reminders kind of thing.
I'm 37, I've been in IT support for 15-17 years.
I have used AI about 6 times.
First time: I told Chat GPT to be sarcastic and snarky with me then drunkenly argued with it for 15 mins.
Second time: I got chat GPT to recommend me power metal bands based on the list of bands I told it I liked.. It gave me 20+ and only two were any good.
Times three to six: using my companies forced Microsoft Copilot, It made me some ASCII pictures of ducks then refused to sing The Simpsons song where Troy McClure is in planet of the apes and I started with "I hate every ape I see from Chmpan-A to Chimpanzee" because "noo not copyrighted music"
Finally it ruined a Futurama quote when I said to it "Have the boy lay out my formal shorts".
I was told today copilot needs me to go into it's settings and tell it what I want.
I will probably go into that next week and say "I just want to quote the Simpsons and Futurama, don't correct my spelling or punctuation just quote it back to me"
Honestly it may be nice for everyone to take a week off of the internet as like a holiday and get out and meet their neighbors. Ever lived anywhere without electricity, like a developing country? People don't have a choice but to interact IRL with the people around them. All the time may be rough but as a temporary community thing it would be good for people I think to collectively get offline a little.
I was being a little facetious earlier; I do actually think that the internet, despite all its niceties, has a negative effect on people's psychology.
Doesn't necessarily mean I want to get rid of it... entirely, but people really need more face to face contact. Like, as a moral imperative. Same as a child needs their broccoli.
So, you all should know that x-head (meth, crack, etc) are derogatory terms and the people being referred to don't appreciate being called that (in my experience).
I just think it's worth knowing.
Absolutely, and that's why we shouldn't build any of those data centers that the calculators require to work... Oh, wait.
It's gonna be real bad for the world economy too, when that calculator bubble bursts, because everyone knows how big Casio and Texas Instruments are on the stock market... Oh, wait.
Flagship llms are trained on modern and classical philosophy.
They are able to tell the difference between right and wrong. Aside from some unique errors they do not condone or encourage violence. So you can ask them mundane questions and get decent mundane answers.
Good lord, boomer before my time. Sorry the tech is neat? Just not onboard with the ip means nothing until you want ours attitude and we’re going to cram ai down everyone’s throat until you assimilate.
Neat side effects include 2027s ram production capacity has already been spoken for.
Actually nvm speedrun economic collapse my moms generation isn’t retiring fast enough to buckle index funds
I already do pretty well by being the guy who actually understands what's happening when everyone uses AI instead and saves the day frequently with actual solutions when everyone realizes AI just wasted a week of their time.
More kids presenting AI output as actual work will only put me in a better position.
Think there is enough room for 50 of you? Agents ain't going to replace humans. It'll raise the bar on output and drive up the entry level. Agents will be doing a lot of the shit and low risk easy work and folks like you and I (because you are kinda correct) get bright on for more complex business needs and hitl break fix stuff.
Most in this thread can't imagine a middle ground as they are distracted with the AI circle jerk.
AI tech professionals are quintessential “Didn’t Earn It” hires. I’ve got 15+ years of experience, i’ll be fine when the bubble pops, but the kids who rely on it to function, good luck lol.
I was around for greybeards saying they wouldn't learn AWS. Then containers. The ultra hype machine is dying but AI she LLM are here to stay. They are a great tool when used correctly and those that don't learn it won't be competitive in the market. Just like the anti cloud guys.
LLMs like this are fundamentally different than cloud. We got kids no longer studying in school because AI does it for them. We are witnessing the construction of a panopticon. The Overton window is quickly shrinking and wealth is quickly concentrating to like 5 people.
It’s not an “old man doesn’t like change” situation, it’s philosophically a stupid idea to introduce a new species to the planet that has a higher intelligence than us.
I was around for that saga too, i’ve worked for an AI company, I know what i’m talking about.
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untorquer@quokk.au · 119 pts · 32d
Work paid for ChatGPT and asked us to all use it. Not a hard requirement but they were insisting we try to use it to see if it could speed up work.
I'm in a Nordic country. I haven't had an email longer than a single paragraph. Documents are already as concise with good organization. The documentation is optimized so AI "summaries" only translates it into longer form tech bro speak. Just looking it up directly is faster.
I needed to do batch operations on database files without providing admin access. The same database we all work on. It suggested i could do so with a script. This was a flat out lie, with multiple responses hitting the same block. I felt sick about using it so i dropped it for fear of them attempting to try it with admin access.
Haven't used it since those few prompts. Yet i get monthly emails talking about how we're running out of credits every month. I'm guessing one of my coworkers has an AI romance...
vithigar@lemmy.ca · 74 pts · 32d
The company I work for paid for Claude and has made it mandatory that we use it. It's actually insane.
We also have "Code Rabbit" leaving LLM reviews on our PRs. It's hilarious how often it completely misses the actual change and just waxes eloquent on the formatting changes that our linter enforces when we commit a change to a file that hasn't been touched since prior to our current linter rules.
Even crazier, I've had a VP complain to me directly how much he hates reading LLM generated text that someone just spat out at him.
Yet here we are, still required to use it.
untorquer@quokk.au · 4 pts · 32d
Damn that sucks.
In glad I'm still mostly insulated from it by sector and good old enterprise class lack of investment in modernization.
Carrot@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 32d
My favorite part of AI PR reviews is that I'll fix one of its comments, which leads to a new comment. I fix that one and the new review suggests I actually try just doing the implementation that I started with
Visstix@lemmy.world · 30 pts · 32d
"see if it could speed up work" is at least a reasonable request. I do wonder what the rest uses it for.
untorquer@quokk.au · 7 pts · 32d
Yeah the company is treating it as an "exploration" but the experiment turned into a regular sub without much scrutiny like a streaming service you forgot you had opted into the trial for.
Visstix@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 32d
Oh god is that how the ai companies are gonna stay afloat..
fizzle@quokk.au · 11 pts · 32d
This is my experience, but it seems polarising.
In the recent thread here about the doctolorow article an army of AI dweebs were proselytizing our great AI overlords.
I want to be open minded, and will remain so, but as yet I haven't seen any significant clear benefits to the use of AI.
My observations are telling me it's all emperors new clothes, but listening to the commentary of anyone not on Lemmy it would seem I am mistaken. I'm not arrogant enough to believe I'm right and everyone else is wrong, but this remains a mystery to me.
a_non_monotonic_function@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 32d
Benefits: further concentration of wealth and rapid damage to the environment.
Opisek@piefed.blahaj.zone · 54 pts · 32d
Holy lack of self-awareness
A_norny_mousse@piefed.zip · 53 pts · 32d
"Would you actually be willing to give it up?"
Way ahead of you bud. Or behind, however you want to look at it. Personally I don't think not choosing AI makes me backward, but then again I probably am a bit of a Luddite.
OwOarchist@pawb.social · 19 pts · 32d
You think lack of AI is your ally? I was born in it, molded by it. I didn't touch AI until ... actually, I still haven't touched the shit, and I don't plan to.
amio@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 32d
Edit: yes, I know about the original Luddites, you'd be at least the fourth person to point it out. I get it, thanks 😄
It all depends. One one hand, "Luddite" can have almost lazy vibes, people who "blanket distrust" anything newer than fire because they can't be fucked learning how the 'puter/rotary telephone/wheel works. Then there's "this whole thing is a stupid grift which sucks at everything and can fuck right off, and here are several dozen good reasons why"
MalReynolds@slrpnk.net · 40 pts · 32d
The term Luddite got co-opted, propagandized. They're the guys who dropped wrenches in the machinery to protest exploitation at the hands of factory owners. They're exactly the example we need now. Modern Luddites are knocking down Flock cameras right now, and there is a lot further to go.
OwOarchist@pawb.social · 39 pts · 32d
The OG Luddites are victims of bad press and propaganda against them. As a whole, they were less against progress in general and more against how only factory and business owners benefited from that progress, while workers got very little benefit, often instead losing their livelihoods.
jj4211@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 32d
Even more severe, the owner class got the government to classify property damage as punishable by death. They were actively having the government kill Luddites who had not (at the time) even so much as injured a person.
A_norny_mousse@piefed.zip · 14 pts · 32d
Definitely the latter. The original Luddites weren't against automation per se either.
KrazyDrew222@piefed.social · 1 pts · 32d
Exactly Give it up. Ive never used the damn shit in the first place.
ThatGuyNamedZeus@feddit.org · 46 pts · 32d
that kind of mindset is why so many CEOs want to replace airheads like that guy with AI
sem@piefed.blahaj.zone · 7 pts · 32d
The CEO is the airhead
HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club · 42 pts · 32d
You know how some people have imposter syndrome? More people should have it.
Rooster326@programming.dev · 13 pts · 32d
Where do they get the confidence?
LodeMike@lemmy.today · 7 pts · 32d
Ignorance
QuandaleDingle@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 31d
As an ADHDer, I have way too much of that stuff. ToT
shneancy@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 31d
someone please take some of mine, i can share, really
Saapas@piefed.zip · 37 pts · 32d
AI isn't awesome like meth though
sem@piefed.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 32d
Doesn't give you meth mouth either ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
pnwpixel@programming.dev · 2 pts · 32d
Wasn't that that one band that made the song for the first Shrek movie?
sem@piefed.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 32d
No that's Smashmouth ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
GalacticGrapefruit@lemmy.world · 35 pts · 32d
I write code without AI. And I like it that way.
I write stories, I draw, I animate, I DM my D&D games, all without AI.
Because, funny enough, the intellectual and creative labor is highly rewarding, and handing that to a robot seems ridiculous. Especially when it can't even do it right. This isn't like using power tools to make furniture. This is like using power tools to sculpt a very delicate statue.
Have fun spending hours fixing shit the bot broke.
Simon_Shitewood@lemmy.ml · 9 pts · 32d
With TTRPGs particularly the intellectual and creative labour isn't just rewarding, it often is the reward. Farming that out to an AI is already pointless before the AI fucks it all up.
zarkanian@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 32d
That isn't even a good analogy, because chainsaw sculptures are a thing.
schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de · 34 pts · 32d
Uh, yeah, I already currently get through most (not all) of my workdays without touching AI. Do these people not remember 2021 or something?
Thebeardedsinglemalt@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 32d
Id LOVE to be able to get through my day without touching AI. And by that I mean closing the forced AI "features" in apps I use for work like that CoPilot bar every time I open Word, 2 AI pOwErEd tabs/popups from Adobe anytime I open a PDF, and closing out the copilot task bar when that invisible window blocks 2/3 of my primary monitor
Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works · 34 pts · 32d
I think I've used Google Lens at work once, to identify an electrical component. I want to see if it can read resistor values at some point.
But, I likely wouldn't even notice if AI stopped working.
Treczoks@lemmy.world · 29 pts · 32d
Well, I regularly get the AI replies from Google searches, but i skip them. I am the only developer in my team who does not use AI. And sometimes I wonder if I'm the only one who can still think without crutches.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 32d
i wonder if most tech employees currently getting hired have to use alot of AI or they have experience in it?
saltesc@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 32d
There was that ad doing the rounds last year where the position required minimum 7 years experience with OpenAI or something.
ParlimentOfDoom@piefed.zip · 2 pts · 32d
As someone casually looking around the job market, it's at least mentioned in so many job descriptions.
sem@piefed.blahaj.zone · 4 pts · 32d
They had Google lens (machine learning) before chat gpt was released to the public (llm), so i don't usually paint it by the same AI brush.
I've used it quite a few times and it works pretty well for identifying things.
I've had a similar problem using it though. Most of the time it's bang on, but sometimes with really hard problems, it is confidently wrong, and returns a bunch of things that look similar but are significantly different from your picture. If you are used to it being correct and aren't in the habit of thinking critically about its answer, it is easy to be mislead by its oracular answers.
eestileib@sh.itjust.works · 31 pts · 32d
Bro I never started.
Adderbox76@lemmy.ca · 28 pts · 32d
Why is it so hard for these idiots to grasp that the process of actually making something yourself IS THE FULFILLING PART.
It's not the end result that is where the fulfillment comes in when I'm programming something or writing something; it's the knowledge that I MADE IT and as a result I have now accomplished something. If you tell an LLM what to do and they do it, you haven't accomplished anything. You haven't earned it and you have no right to be proud of it.
Hell, if an LLM came about that could mow my damn lawn so that I could spend more time writing and programming and 3D modelling and video editing, etc... than hot damn...THAT would be something I would pay for.
At what point did the adage "It's not the destination, it's the journey" cease being meaningful to these morons?
chaogomu@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 32d
They're morally bankrupt and always seek shortcuts.
They've never struggled or worked for anything in their lives, and don't intend to start now.
mobyduck648@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 32d
I'm not sure it's so black and white, LLMs (even frontier ones) are total spaghetti merchants if you let them anywhere near the architecture but I get zero fulfillment from manually solving merge conflicts, setting up someone's fragile idea of a config, or other tedious stuff like that.
I do dislike how many people seem to want the profession to change into being the meatshield between Claude and prod though.
Adderbox76@lemmy.ca · 6 pts · 32d
For sure. And it's tedious crap like that where A.I can have a limited scope of usefullness. I WANT A.I. to handle all the boring shit so that I can get on with doing the creative side of programming. But CEO's want it exactly the other way around. Rather than A.I. being your assistant, you become its assistant, it's proof reader.
I will happily plug a snippet of code into an AI if it's not working and I need a second set of eyes on it to see where I missed a goddamned colon. But that's as far as it ever should go. I don't want it writing code for me, but it can make a pretty good proof-reader so that I can solve an issue and get on with writing faster.
VelvetPinkOtter123@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 32d
Hey, some sane "anti-AI" stuff on the internet!
I use the example of a carpenter
I go to work and I build chairs. It takes me all day to build one chair. I carry shit, I cut shit, I sand shit, I paint shit, I hammer and nail shit, etc... at the end of the day I'm hot, I'm dirty, I'm tired, and somewhere along the way I hurt myself a little bit so I got some minor scrapes and bruises
But I sit back, look at my chair, and I'm proud. That's what I do. I make chairs.
It's not glamourous, but that is what I do. I am a carpenter. Not just by profession, but by choice. This is what I wanted to do. It's what I became. I'm a father, and I'm a soccer fan, but also, I'm a carpenter
Then along comes a robot that can build a chair all by itself. This is great! Just because the robot can build a chair all by itself doesn't mean it has to. What it does mean is that it can help me build a chair. If I need help carrying the wood, it can carry the wood. If I don't want to sand, I can tell it to sand. It's not a "wood carrying robot" or a "sanding robot", it's a "Chair building robot" and now I can ask it to help me with any step along the way
But then my boss finds out about this chair building robot. Suddenly he doesn't want me to build the chair at all anymore, he just wants me to tell the robot to do it
This is sad. I'm no longer a carpenter. I've lost the meaning in my job.
I go to work, I tell a robot to build a chair, I just sit back and correct any mistakes it makes.
But hey, if the robot can build a chair in 30 minutes, and I'm only responsible for one chair a day, I guess the good news is that I get to keep my job, I make the same amount of money, but now I only have to work for about an hour a day. Clock in, tell the robot to build a chair, watch it for 30 minutes, fix it's mistakes, clock out. Same money for an hours worth of work
Nope
I'm now responsible for 9 chairs a day
9 chairs! We'll I'll get 9 times the pay right?
Nope
So I keep my job, I make the same amount of money, I work the same amount of hours, but also my job gives me zero satisfaction in life and now I'm responsible for 9 times the amount of work. Also, I'm no longer a carpenter
Again, that's what I wanted to be. I went to school for it. When I was younger and they asked, "what do you want to be when you grow up", I said, "a carpenter". I was a carpenter. I was happy. My boss took that from me. He didn't fire me, he just took away the position of "carpenter".
How is this a good thing?
OK, well, I'm an optimist. Times change I guess, you can't be a guy that makes cannon balls forever. Lets see what the future hold. I go to work, I tell the robot to build the chair and now I got nothing to do for 30 minutes. Neither do my coworkers. So we bring in some TVs, we set up some chairs, we play Mario Kart and watch soccer matches while the robot builds the chair. Every 30 minutes I have to get up, inspect a chair, and tell the robot to build it again, and then it's back to Mario Kart
At least my job is much more enjoyable in that sense I guess. I laugh at a lot more at work
Then my boss comes in and sees us all standing around laughing, playing video games, and watching TV. He's sees us happy
He's big mad
But why? We're each producing 9 times the amount of chairs in the same amount of time for the same amount of money using the robot he wanted us to use. How is he not happy about that? He's getting more chairs in the same amount of time without having to pay anyone any extra money.
He's big mad
The next day I come to work and there's a big console with 200 buttons on it. Each button tells one of 200 robots to build a chair. It takes me 30 minutes to push all 200 buttons. By the time I've pushed the last button, it's time to push the first button again
Now I go to work, I work the same hours, I make the same pay, I make 3,200 chairs a day, I have zero job satisfaction, I have zero fun, I'm not a carpenter
Then my boss has the nerve to get on Social Media and post: "Chair building robots are great. Imagine life without them, how awful!"
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AI is a great tool for doing all the boring shit you don't want to do. It's great for automated process, basic code reviews, pipeline management, etc... I'm glad it can help me write a complex query or figure out what the hell this error message means and what in my code might be causing it.
I'm glad it can help me do new things... I don't want to be a game developer but making a game sounds fun. It's a different kind of challenge and it's nice Claude Code can step in and basically hand-hold me through my controllers and such. It's a great teacher
What I don't want is to be forced to use it to do my entire job... I don't want to product code by only prompting claude
I like writing code. I like knowing the code I pushed is beautiful. Clean, well organized, good folder structures, etc... I like people opening up my projects and going, "damn, this is nice".
I do not like that people assume Claude did it
I don't hate AI, but we need to get past this initial phase of upper management not knowing how to properly use it and thinking it's a magic tool that can do everything for us, instead of a fantastic assistant that we should use at our own descension
That being said, AI is not going away. It's not just a dumb toy for making bad music and shitty TikTok reels. It's incredibly helpful and it's here to stay. In that sense, Anti-AI shit is as embarrassing as this over-the-top pro AI shit.
mobyduck648@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 32d
Yeah it's like that recent adage isn't it: I want AI to automate all my drudgery so I can spend more time being creative, but Silicon Valley is automating all my creativity so I can spend more time doing drudgery.
zarkanian@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 32d
AI should do tedious tasks for creative people, not creative tasks for tedious people.
CrabAndBroom@lemmy.ml · 4 pts · 32d
I've been saying for a while that having AI make art for you is basically the same as a commission. When you commission a painting, you describe what you want, someone else paints it for you and gives it to you for money. Same sort of thing here, except shittier because no artist gets paid. But the same end result - you might own the end result, but you didn't create it.
Adderbox76@lemmy.ca · 6 pts · 32d
100% I believe the exact same thing. If a person commisions a painting, but the painter is a computer, it doesn't transfer the title of "artist" onto the person who commisioned the painting.
They want credit for their "creative work" when really all they are is a middle manager with no actual employees.
How long do those middle-management chucklefucks think it'll be before CEO's realize that they can just ask the computer themselves?
MyVeryRealName@lemmy.world · -6 pts · 32d
Philosophy doesn't help meet deadlines.
Adderbox76@lemmy.ca · 11 pts · 32d
Than it's the deadlines that need to change. I'll happily die on that hill.
Quality over Quantity will always win the race in the long run. Ever tightening deadlines is responsible for the enshittification of everything.
mobyduck648@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 32d
On one hand I agree, on the other hand try making that argument to management at the majority of software firms and see where it gets you. There's little commercial incentive for 'artisinal code' outside of niche sectors in my view, and commercial incentives overrule all else at the end of the day. I don't think this is morally right but this is the wider problem of which overreliance on AI is merely one expression I think
Adderbox76@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 32d
Oh absolutely. Corporations shoving AI down our throats is a symptom of a much wider problem for sure. It's just the latest tool in the age old mantra that states that "In order to increase profit, you can either make more or spend less."
Somewhere in around the 80's, corporations realized that labour was their largest expense, and from that point on, employees became just another line item on a spreadsheet. Something to be managed and minimized as much as possible. They try to squeeze that labour metric down as much as possible to achieve more profit without having to increase revenue at the same time, thereby making the stock price rise.
Humans stopped being an equation in business a long long time ago.
MyVeryRealName@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 31d
Good luck convincing clients
Adderbox76@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 31d
And that's precisely the over-arching problem in the modern world.
captainlezbian@lemmy.world · 28 pts · 32d
I love this implication that they really can't comprehend that those of us who oppose it largely don't use it.
lobut@lemmy.ca · 22 pts · 32d
We hired this senior dev ... when we asked what this PR (code change request) was, he didn't know. He stammered and then regurgitated what AI told him. I had to tell him, he's on thin ice if he thinks he can vibe his way through this job.
All his work is AI comments everywhere. I'm like, you didn't read what you wrote. What fucking relevance is putting down all of this info? I said, if you don't have the courtesy to read it, then why the fuck am I? There's little respect for my time in dealing with those that use it so much.
So, yes, I can very much deal in a world without AI. It may be slower in some areas but yes I can. Especially if it means exposing all my shitty coworkers work habits.
frostysauce@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 32d
Like, who tf uses AI but is anti-ai?
garbagebagel@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 32d
I'm pretty anti-AI but my work is pushing it so hard on us that there are situations I have been forced to use it to show how incorrectly it is doing the work. Could def live without that.
frostysauce@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 32d
That makes sense.
parrhesia@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 31d
I'm pretty anti AI. I don't have a coding background but I would like to transition from sys admin. So I am learning but job has pushing to use AI to make faster results then I were to do it by hand :/ Still trying to learn out of work.
TheUniverseandNetworks@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 31d
Don't learn out of work, learn in work. But... I'm retired now, got out just in time.
BCsven@lemmy.ca · 0 pts · 31d
Me. It's so much slop but at the same time if I grab a bunch of text from a spec book or web, I can tell it to reformat the columns and strip out stuff in a single line.
I could do the same with grep, sed, sort, trim etc but it would take longer
ShutUpWesley@piefed.zip · 27 pts · 32d
I genuinely don't understand how people get through their day WITH ai, I've experimented with integrating it, and it's absolutely terrible. It sucks at everything beyond NLUI applications.
Cypher@aussie.zone · 2 pts · 32d
The most useful I’ve found it is saving me from looking up which tables data is stored in for certain security products and only because it is faster than using search engines now that they’re all useless.
fuck_u_spez_in_particular@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 32d
Yeah slowly burning out because of it, because I have to review through multiple hundreds lines of mostly unreviewed slop-code of colleagues daily...
Once I really enjoyed coding and high quality of code, that is rather quickly eroding away... Kinda sad how all kinds of art is inflated by low effort and low quality slop.
bitteroldcoot@piefed.social · 27 pts · 32d
I worked for 30 years before it existed, and the first 10 of those there were barely an internet. Never had a problem. We had these things called books and libraries.
I've been testing the chat bots for about a year. What kind of idiot would trust any of their answers for their work?
One of the first questions i asked them for was the IRMAA Medicare Income Brackets. They got them wrong.
Just asked again. This time they got them right. I'd never trust them with anything important.
Dozzi92@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 32d
The trust thing is it for me. People are like, you could use them for your job, it'll save you time. Like, it saves me exactly zero time if I have to go back and check its work, because that's what I would've been doing anyway! And now, instead of my mistakes, which I'm very familiar with, I have the hallucinations of some machine to contend with.
snooggums@piefed.world · 8 pts · 32d
It takes more time to use AI when you check the work because you are interacting with AI on top of checking the answers yourself.
It only saves time for people who don't ever check anything.
CrabAndBroom@lemmy.ml · 6 pts · 32d
I always think it's weird when they say nobody could write 10 pages or whatever without AI. I write for a living and grew up before all of this (I didn't have the internet until I was a teenager) and under the right conditions (IE a good amount of caffeine and people leave me alone) I can write 10,000 words in a single sitting lol.
bitteroldcoot@piefed.social · 3 pts · 32d
I use to work for the army and flew a desk. By the time I retired my word smithing skills were great. Just put a pc in front of me and I will fill your document with all the relevant buzz words, needed to get managements and procurements buy in.
They are somewhat degraded now, I'm almost 70.
zarkanian@sh.itjust.works · 24 pts · 32d
Corey Doctorow has a good article about this.
Sure, tons of people are using AI, but that isn't because they need AI to get their jobs done or even that AI makes their jobs easier. It's because their bosses are convinced that they need to be using AI because it will change everything.
Sunflier@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 31d
What the bosses mean by this:
IAMgROOT@lemmy.wtf · 3 pts · 31d
Cory should get a doctorate
imagine Dr. Doctorow
MoffKalast@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 32d
"If the internet disappeared tomorrow, could you still get through an entire workday?"
"If electricity disappeared tomorrow, could you still get through an entire workday?"
"If gasoline disappeared tomorrow, could you still get through an entire workday?"
Yeah society eventually gets us addicted to many things for basic existence that we really should not be relying on. Hell, add even things like GPS, cell towers, and more to that list, we take so much for granted that could be rugpulled at any moment.
Azteh@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 32d
I'm glad that AI has not reached the stage of "if the internet disappeared" yet, because I work in IT and I don't think I could get through a workday without the internet, but for AI I wouldn't notice a difference, as all it does is transcribe my conversations, which I already do manually anyway.
schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de · 7 pts · 32d
To those two, my answer is: Internet and electricity, no because I work in IT and my job depends on those things, though this is obviously not true for all jobs. Gasoline, yes, I could; getting to my job might be a challenge currently because I currently need to take a rail replacement bus...
meekah@discuss.tchncs.de · 1 pts · 32d
lucky you, the bus probably runs on diesel
schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de · 2 pts · 32d
Yes, that's probably true. It's certainly not electric though.
MalReynolds@slrpnk.net · 5 pts · 32d
Carrington Event is that guy (rugpull as Amos from The Expanse).
Slovene85@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 32d
I'm addicted to regular doses of non-steroidal anti-inflammation powder.Sorry, no, I misremembered. I'm addicted to regular doses of corticosteroid powder.
EverythingBagel42@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 32d
I just started a job as a manufacturing engineer. One of my main tasks thus far has been to make work instructions describing how to assemble product in assembly areas.
Recently one of my coworkers found a new job and left behind some paper copies of work instructions when he left. Unfortunately we couldn't find the digital copies of these work instructions on his computer. So I had to take the paper copies and make editible Visio documents that looked the same as the physical ones.
I hadn't used AI for work stuff before so I decided to try it.
So I scanned the paper copies and gave the resulting PDF's to copilot to see if it could just automatically make a Visio copy for me.
Suffice to say I ended up wasting an hour watching it create documents that were just a jumbled mess. After that I just gave up and did it on my own.
It took me 20 minutes to make copies of the 2 documents because all I needed to do was open a PDF viewer, highlight text, then ctrl-c ctrl-v.
So we are wasting all of our RAM on this shit?
pedz@lemmy.ca · 20 pts · 32d
I work with Jira and they replaced the search with an AI. I have no choice but to use it to search through previous tickets, and it sucks.
Sometimes I try to use it to help me solve tickets, but most of its suggestions are wrong.
So I could very well do my work without AI. I could before being forced to use it.
SlothMama@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 32d
I work in tech and I've never used AI for any reason ever. Never a question. Never code. My coworkers don't understand. I'm even required to use it in new and unique ways, and I'm not going to use something I'm going to learn to rely on, especially when my critical thinking is precious to me.
Abyssian@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 32d
I mean... it is hard to get through the day without meth though? And some of you don't do meth? You're missing out.
The only bad part about meth is when you run out of meth, or I guess sometimes also when the shadow people keep torturing your dead grandma in front of you and you can't poop for a month and any time you go out in public people stare and you wish you could remember if you've showered since the last time you pooped and the voices whispering in the radio start telling you everyone is plotting against you and you need to kill them before they kill you.
FistingEnthusiast@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 31d
I find these tech-bro dickheads hilarious
They look down on everyone else, genuinely believing themselves to be innately superior
I work with my hands.
I have an education, including a science degree, but I choose to do something that I enjoy and that I think contributes to this world
When the chips are down, guys like this are lost, useless, and little more than a hindrance
And of course, they're utterly unable to see that they aren't people of value
BigBoyShuanzee@aussie.zone · 10 pts · 31d
I'm an IT guy, I have worked in IT support since 2007. I have never ever ever needed AI for a single second in my job and seeing people use AI just annoys me.
Yes yes science and medicine people I know AI helps you.
tomkatt@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 31d
Also IT since the mid-2000s. I "need" AI for my job now... because my company went in for it, told us to use it, and cut our support staff by 40% over the past year so there's not enough time to actually work and investigate case issues properly anymore and we're all completely overloaded. We're basically a skeleton crew now. It can only be an effort to increase perceived value for a sell-off, or the company is in a death spiral. Probably both.
I've had it with this.
Funkt4st1c@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 32d
A day in 2026 without being forced into using AI wouls be divine. Searching for a thing and getting a thing (yes i use duckduckgo no ai). Paying my rent without my "landlord" "" jack"" asking me what im on the website to do. Writing a line of code without AI autocomplete. Oh man.
naught101@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 32d
Can I suggest uBlock Origin with this installed? https://github.com/laylavish/uBlockOrigin-HUGE-AI-Blocklist
I only see AI crap on a few websites now, and you can manually block those too
Funkt4st1c@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 32d
Massive news, thank you :)
MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 32d
I've not intentionally used it. I shall continue on happily.
mlg@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 32d
Would bet cash money these people have never touched even a basic stats lib/module in their life, let alone pytorch or tensorflow lol.
I kinda wanna see some funny ISP/Cloud outage that only breaks connections to model providers to see how entrenched people and services have become with AI.
Imagine rolling into work and the office is in flames because ChatGPT is down.
umbraroze@slrpnk.net · 14 pts · 31d
Let me put it in tech bro speak: most of my AI usage has been suitability evaluation.
In layman terms: does this shit even do what it's supposed to be doing.
It doesn't. There are few limited tasks where LLMs can be genuinely used as a tool (my favourite example is image captioning) but it still needs hand holding and can't work fully automatically. It'll fuck up, and I'll need my expertise to unfuck it.
They marketed AIs as "don't worry, you can just use it as a tool". It's a tool that is sometimes useful. This is not a high endorsement.
Now: it's my humble opinion one of the greatest tragedies of this AI boom is that it never should have been pushed to the mainstream. If LLMs had been left to the stage where they blatantly are now, they'd been left as marginal nerd toys. And all would have been well. But no, the Bros had to ruin it all and let us all discover myriad societal ills unfathomed by scifi authors. Thanks guys.
Olhonestjim@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 32d
Uh yeah. Fuckin easy. I've tried AI. It was briefly kind of impressive, but added absolutely nothing to my life except the frustration of checking the answers for factual accuracy, which took even longer. I can't even think of a good use case.
I have a brain. I've put a lifetime of work into training it. I'll fight like hell anyone who tries to make me use it less.
TheAlbatross@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 5 pts · 32d
I tried using it as OCR software to help me simplify splitting up a grocery receipt between me and my roommates.
It messed up some item names, fine, it got all the numbers right, but it wouldn't sum correctly in excel. I was totally baffled until I realized it used a non-unicode dollar sign symbol for some of the prices which caused excel to be unable to recognize those prices.
It took me longer to diagnose the issue and resolve it than it would have taken me to do the damn thing with a pencil and calculator.
Fuck AI.
Caveat edit: it does seem to work fine for instant and casual translation software. I wouldn't rely on it for anything that matters, but speaking casually between people with language barriers, works well enough. And that's p cool ngl
CrowAirbrush@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 31d
I could even get through a workday without my smartphone, even tho those things have become a requirement in today's society.
JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 32d
Ai probably wrote that question. Whole load of words, but not understanding anything.
MapleEngineer@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 31d
You mean...go back to how things were six months ago? I'm sure we would manage.
qarbone@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 31d
You're not wrong but it's been over a year since genAI been stomping all over the mainstream.
RedstoneValley@sh.itjust.works · 10 pts · 32d
I might be an exception, but I do not enjoy using AI because I find the high possibility of hallucinations and misinformation quite repulsive. It's eerie and uncanny working with it, and I actively avoid using it apart from some development assistance. (Apart from all the ethical and environmental issues which are off-putting too)
glitchdx@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 32d
I look at my ai use the same way I look at streaming services: cheap entertainment of middling quality and if it stops existing then nothing of value will be lost. Worst case scenario I have to actually write coherent notes, but I'm trying to drink less so that's already part of the plan anyway.
Avicenna@programming.dev · 9 pts · 32d
This is why I feel like AI companies operate at a loss
1- they gather training data,
2- if they wing it for 10 years people won't be able to extract information or do certain tasks without AI help
Sunflier@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 31d
That's literally the mindset that drug dealers operate from: give a few, initial doses at a loss to get the person addicted. Then jack up the price because the addict can't function normally without the product.
Kaligalis@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 32d
I got local-running AI for images and text (but the text one is slow and not as good). And I can actually code just fine myself. I would probably be slower without Claude Code. But I would still be fully able to do my job.
This will change for the next generation which is growing up with AI. But right now, an AI outage isn't really that big of a deal.
So we definitely need open weight models and the hardware to run them to become available and affordable to everyone. Then a global AI outage becomes as unlikely as a global power outage.
toxicbubble@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 32d
people forget that books exist
Kolanaki@pawb.social · 7 pts · 32d
It would affect my daily life as it would mean Fuck_AI and all its anti-AI memes would stop existing, too.
tiramichu@sh.itjust.works · 7 pts · 32d
Dancing in the street, mate
vinyl@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 32d
I work in plane manufacturing, the use of ai is prohibited except for looking up simple information regarding the company, majority of the employees won't be affected except for maybe the higher ups writing a report or some other shit.
Doom@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 32d
I rarely use AI. When I do have to use it for something I end up doing extra work because I always have to check and correct it's output seeing as every one of them is a lying liar who lies.
verstra@programming.dev · 6 pts · 32d
I'd say more like coffee. If you drink it every day, you are addicted and legit cannot work without it. But it does keep you focused when in a crunch. As for LLMs, they does have their uses, but they do not produce quality software.
farmgineer@nord.pub · 5 pts · 32d
The only place I knowingly and intentionally use AI is only at work and only code reviews (it's policy). I could 100% live without that, though I'd need to badger my coworkers. Unless AI is shoved in something else I'm unaware of, I'm not using it.
chilicheeselies@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 32d
I don't really understand using AI for code reviews. Shouldn't it be the other way around?
I have my setup hooked up to SonarQube and compell it to run all its changes through that. I prefer a static analysis tool with predefined checks to keep the agent in line. I just have it do a TDD workflow using that as part of the refactor step.
farmgineer@nord.pub · 1 pts · 32d
My current company requires human code reviews as well but, on commit, it gets reviewed by copilot. Codepilot tends to make some mistakes, but it does catch some things (and, yes, I'd rather be using non-ai tools that also do that, but not my choice).
jj4211@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 32d
My experience is that prepping a code review with LLM is a safer bet than having a person review LLM code. None of this should replace static analysis or human code review, but it can provide a rapid feedback about something that looks off either to the original developer or helping a reviewer catch a detail that might have escaped their attention span. LLM missteps don't matter so much, since the audience is a human (an exceedingly high false positive rate is annoying, but not a disastor). Also why it makes for a handy facility for security, mistakes don't matter, missing something is no worse than before, false positives can be ignored.
If your scenario is well served by TDD with absoutely comprehensive test cases that can grade with absolute perfect coverage of all the scenarios, then code gen can thrash on that and make progress, though it's a bit token heavy because there's a fair amount of guesses and reguessing. But if you AI gen the tests and the code, then you might get into weird states. Even if you didn't mean to have the AI mess with the tests things can go south. A couple weeks back I tried to prompt up a change that I thought should have been reasonably within the capabilities of the model, along the way it failed a long standing test and fixed it by changing the test, making the determination that the test case needed correcting to let it pass, instead of trying to pass the test case. The test case was, in fact, correct, it screwed up.
Part of the problem is 'writing code' is about as diverse as 'writing text', and some folks are working in territory that the LLMs can chew through competently and others are places where the LLMs struggle, and then there's the person lulled into a sense of security by being in the former category until one day suddenly they are in the latter unexpectedly for no apparent reason.
kepix@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 32d
i asked the ai twice, couldnt help me. i had to think about it, and ask the old folk on the forums.
FatVegan@leminal.space · 3 pts · 32d
I used AI maybe 5 times, and it was pretty fucking stupid
inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 32d
I mean I would have a much harder time creating a "you're a fucking moron, go fuck yourself" email in a professional manner to some of my higher ups. Other than that, I would literally miss nothing about AI.
Bebopalouie@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 32d
Said the druggy about his drug.
BlackLaZoR@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 32d
If computers stopped working, would you?
echodot@feddit.uk · 2 pts · 32d
Some people can't comprehend the fact that not everyone lives in silicon valley and works for a tech company.
SleeplessCityLights@programming.dev · 2 pts · 32d
I don't have a subscription at home, so I have to code without an LLM frequently. The only difference is how long a task takes.
DudeImMacGyver@kbin.earth · 2 pts · 32d
GG EZ
chilicheeselies@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 32d
It's made my work life a lot easier, but do I need it? No. At the end of the day the only thing that would change is that things take longer to get done.
Even with AI, I still read the docs to understand what it wants to do. Half the time I need to challenge it or refine the criteria.
The one place it has been a godsend for me is working in unfamiliar areas (a new library, new code ase, etc). Helps me onboard so much faster. Has helped accelerate learning too. But do I NEED it. No I don't. I'm still smarter than it, and all that's needed is time.
renlok@lemmy.zarioth.com · 2 pts · 32d
I can't imagine how shit at your job you have to be that if AI disappeared you couldn't get through a single day of work
hansolo@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 32d
Funny that a bunch of frontier AI labs all just signed a letter asking for international cooperation to slow down AI development.
Yerbouti@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 32d
Lol. AI was basically not a thing 5 years ago and the world wasn't a shithole where no one could do anything. Things actually got way worse for most of us since it's around, you dumb ass.
SethTaylor@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 32d
Never used it
resipsaloquitur@lemmy.cafe · 2 pts · 32d
Claude was down yesterday.
The only reason I know was coworkers complaining about it in work chat.
MeowerMisfit817@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 32d
The post above this one was also about this X post.
echodot@feddit.uk · 1 pts · 32d
Is this guy important, I need to know who he is so I can think less of him for his stupid comment.
Auli@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 32d
Yes. I would miss it briefly as I have manages to do some things that I wouldn't have been able to.
gdog05@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 32d
I'm curious how you use it. I self host and run local LLMs but I genuinely cannot find a use for it. I don't think the hardware is quite there for a useful home audible assistant but that's the best use case I can think of. Tell me the time and create reminders kind of thing.
TotalCourage007@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 32d
Its just another fraudster pyramid scheme tech bros have cooked up while begging for gov bailouts. At best its a copy-pasta generator.
desmosthenes@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 32d
da fug lol, crackhead
BigBoyShuanzee@aussie.zone · 1 pts · 32d
I'm 37, I've been in IT support for 15-17 years. I have used AI about 6 times.
First time: I told Chat GPT to be sarcastic and snarky with me then drunkenly argued with it for 15 mins.
Second time: I got chat GPT to recommend me power metal bands based on the list of bands I told it I liked.. It gave me 20+ and only two were any good.
Times three to six: using my companies forced Microsoft Copilot, It made me some ASCII pictures of ducks then refused to sing The Simpsons song where Troy McClure is in planet of the apes and I started with "I hate every ape I see from Chmpan-A to Chimpanzee" because "noo not copyrighted music" Finally it ruined a Futurama quote when I said to it "Have the boy lay out my formal shorts".
I was told today copilot needs me to go into it's settings and tell it what I want.
I will probably go into that next week and say "I just want to quote the Simpsons and Futurama, don't correct my spelling or punctuation just quote it back to me"
Zacryon@feddit.org · 1 pts · 32d
Yes, I would. May slow some stuff down, but that's not a desasterous issue.
macke49@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 31d
In a modern company an AI workday is a one hour day @maximum. The rest is writing purpose based purchase requisitions for AI tokens.
andros_rex@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 32d
The only time I’ve found it even remotely helpful was having it style up some bullshit daily agenda pages.
kazerniel@piefed.zip · 1 pts · 32d
I just checked my browsing history, I haven't used any genAI since last December 🙃 (and even before that only a handful of times)
I think I'd be fine...
Zephyr@sh.itjust.works · -1 pts · 32d
I guess you could say the same about social networks. Go back to old school forums and email lists.
petrol_sniff_king@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 32d
Nah, those seem fine to me.
Zephyr@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 32d
Are they? The algorithm has caused a lot of social decay. That's not even to talk about propaganda and shaping elections.
petrol_sniff_king@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 32d
All right, you've convinced me. Let's get rid of those, too.
Zephyr@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 31d
Honestly it may be nice for everyone to take a week off of the internet as like a holiday and get out and meet their neighbors. Ever lived anywhere without electricity, like a developing country? People don't have a choice but to interact IRL with the people around them. All the time may be rough but as a temporary community thing it would be good for people I think to collectively get offline a little.
petrol_sniff_king@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 31d
I was being a little facetious earlier; I do actually think that the internet, despite all its niceties, has a negative effect on people's psychology.
Doesn't necessarily mean I want to get rid of it... entirely, but people really need more face to face contact. Like, as a moral imperative. Same as a child needs their broccoli.
IAMgROOT@lemmy.wtf · 1 pts · 31d
its actually not great living somewhere without electricity.
Mac@mander.xyz · -2 pts · 32d
So, you all should know that x-head (meth, crack, etc) are derogatory terms and the people being referred to don't appreciate being called that (in my experience).
I just think it's worth knowing.
dbtng@eviltoast.org · 1 pts · 31d
Da fuq? That's the point.
Evotech@lemmy.world · -4 pts · 32d
I’m sure scientists would be cooked without calculators too
rustydrd@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 32d
Absolutely, and that's why we shouldn't build any of those data centers that the calculators require to work... Oh, wait.
It's gonna be real bad for the world economy too, when that calculator bubble bursts, because everyone knows how big Casio and Texas Instruments are on the stock market... Oh, wait.
Evotech@lemmy.world · -4 pts · 32d
That wasn’t the premise of the post though
mechoman444@lemmy.world · -7 pts · 32d
They're just tools. You have to know how to use them correctly if you're going to use them.
For example, I use chat GPT for grammar and spell check. It's quite good at that.
It also has a pretty good moral compass so you could ask general questions about things.
But I generally agree when it comes to super pinpoint Niche things especially in one's field, that's not very common. It's not great.
Although I've had various degrees of success with perplexity.
Edit: I realize that a lot of you don't like people even using llms for mundane things let alone specific work analog.
But your bias is your own problem. Don't condemn me for it.
NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 31d
mechoman444@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 31d
It follows instructions. It's supposed to do what you say.
If you're implying that I think llms are alive because I use them as a mundane tool for mundane tasks. You're an idiot.
Look man. Don't use him if you don't like them. If LLMs were to disappear today it will change nothing in my life. I couldn't care less.
Also, that little stupid meme that you provided has nothing to do with what I said. You just thought you were being clever. You're not.
NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 31d
Sure.
mechoman444@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 31d
I'm glad you agree with me thank you.
NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 31d
Sure.
mechoman444@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 31d
🤷
mabeledo@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 32d
What. The. Fuck.
Please don't.
mechoman444@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 32d
Flagship llms are trained on modern and classical philosophy.
They are able to tell the difference between right and wrong. Aside from some unique errors they do not condone or encourage violence. So you can ask them mundane questions and get decent mundane answers.
mabeledo@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 31d
It takes five minutes to “gaslight” a LLM into condoning genocide.
Also, there are several documented cases of AI chatbots involved, one way or another, in murders and suicides.
But more importantly, LLMs cannot have a moral compass. Saying otherwise is just wishful thinking.
makeshift0546@lemmy.today · -17 pts · 32d
Good lord so many of you are fucked when some kid puts out a bunch more work for half the effort with some basic AI use.
Blurntout@lemmy.ca · 12 pts · 32d
Or is the kid fucked when he can’t function without his basic ai?
makeshift0546@lemmy.today · -13 pts · 32d
Good lord, you sound exactly like boomers while desktops became ubiquitous.
Blurntout@lemmy.ca · 7 pts · 32d
Good lord, boomer before my time. Sorry the tech is neat? Just not onboard with the ip means nothing until you want ours attitude and we’re going to cram ai down everyone’s throat until you assimilate.
Neat side effects include 2027s ram production capacity has already been spoken for.
Actually nvm speedrun economic collapse my moms generation isn’t retiring fast enough to buckle index funds
Anarki_@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 5 pts · 32d
funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works · 12 pts · 32d
I already do pretty well by being the guy who actually understands what's happening when everyone uses AI instead and saves the day frequently with actual solutions when everyone realizes AI just wasted a week of their time.
More kids presenting AI output as actual work will only put me in a better position.
makeshift0546@lemmy.today · -2 pts · 31d
Think there is enough room for 50 of you? Agents ain't going to replace humans. It'll raise the bar on output and drive up the entry level. Agents will be doing a lot of the shit and low risk easy work and folks like you and I (because you are kinda correct) get bright on for more complex business needs and hitl break fix stuff.
Most in this thread can't imagine a middle ground as they are distracted with the AI circle jerk.
ParlimentOfDoom@piefed.zip · 5 pts · 32d
And 8 times the bugs and security breaches. We're already seeing that shit from microslop
makeshift0546@lemmy.today · -4 pts · 31d
Everyone know I'll have 1.23 times more bugs but 3.97 output leaving me with the delta to deliver. 87% of the time code will be best 🙄
The nonsense abstract numbers pulled out of your ass are 🧑🍳😘
ParlimentOfDoom@piefed.zip · 2 pts · 31d
And yet you seem perfectly fine with the abstract nonsense your new LLM buddies spew.
makeshift0546@lemmy.today · -3 pts · 31d
My shits is running just fine. I have SLAs and I hit em.
Don't get called in, donn't have outagess, work less than most 🤷♂️
snooggums@piefed.world · 4 pts · 32d
Spewing garbage faster isn't a brag. I could put out more work if I never checked if anything was accurate.
makeshift0546@lemmy.today · -2 pts · 31d
Doing both, challenge: LITERALLY IMPOSSIBLE 🤣 so many upset nerds with shitty excuses.
Zwiebel@feddit.org · 3 pts · 32d
Construction workers 👁️👄👁️
makeshift0546@lemmy.today · 0 pts · 31d
Living the dream
NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 32d
Cheebus@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 31d
AI tech professionals are quintessential “Didn’t Earn It” hires. I’ve got 15+ years of experience, i’ll be fine when the bubble pops, but the kids who rely on it to function, good luck lol.
makeshift0546@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 31d
I was around for greybeards saying they wouldn't learn AWS. Then containers. The ultra hype machine is dying but AI she LLM are here to stay. They are a great tool when used correctly and those that don't learn it won't be competitive in the market. Just like the anti cloud guys.
Cheebus@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 31d
LLMs like this are fundamentally different than cloud. We got kids no longer studying in school because AI does it for them. We are witnessing the construction of a panopticon. The Overton window is quickly shrinking and wealth is quickly concentrating to like 5 people.
It’s not an “old man doesn’t like change” situation, it’s philosophically a stupid idea to introduce a new species to the planet that has a higher intelligence than us.
I was around for that saga too, i’ve worked for an AI company, I know what i’m talking about.