Reminds me of how "The Man from Mars" (by Stanisław Lem) finally understand what humor was about. Look at most jokes ignoring the humor and you find be an endless stream of tragedies.
I find it amusing that they tried to automate it with variables, etc, but seemingly wanted to make LLM generate a new response every time. Standard once written or even generated rejection form could've been more economically sound. But, but - then you wouldn't up the metrics of AI usage in your department!
Wouldn't it have been easier to just get AI to wrote the message and then just use that same canned response going forward instead of using AI to generate it each time? What a waste of resources
Also people don't know how to be social anymore so they find it easier to tell a robot to write a warm rejection email rather than writing one themselves.
Reply: You really missed out not offering me a job, as I would have never made such a big mistake. But seeing how unprofessional your company is, I am no longer interested.
HR departments get flooded with AI generated applications by the truckload, making automating rejections the only viable way to keep up - at least there was a conscious decision here to reply to an applicant, many just ghost them which is just bad form.
It sure does. I for my part always used the official EU tool for creating my CV and applications, which made applying somewhere a pretty fast act - if i looked for the next job, i just uploaded the file with my old CV there and could just add what was new. It's pretty useful even today i think! https://europass.europa.eu/en/create-europass-cv
My experience was not as abysmal as yours, but it also is much farther in the past - last time i was job hunting was around 2016. That 1% response rate is awful… only way to mentally survive that is by not expecting to hear anything back.
That's complete nonsense. While people were (mostly) writing applications by hand for each, companies have been automating this process for over 10 years at this point, way before LLMs were even a thing.
This has increased after AI. Heck rejections come within a few seconds of applying. Once I got (what I presume an internal-only info) something akin to "this opening is just for compliance reasons. We are actually not hiring for this position". This placeholder was sent with rejection email (again presuming its for internal info only)
I would actually enjoy reading that. We all know it happens, and happens a lot. Would be nice to hear about it so we know we didnt fail, it just wasnt possible to succeed.
As someone else in the comments here pointed out, if it's a regional/local franchise or a small business then they could reveal their own location by revealing the company's name.
It doesn't even need to be personal. Just send them a notification notice. Nothing about this has to be personalized, it's already going to their email. Anything more and it's just bs. Even the notification of rejection email is already kinda bs because when you never hear back, you know you've been rejected, and the email itself is a functional courtesy. It could literally just be:
You were getting placeholder rejection messages before AI too. As if I care about how personalized my rejection msg is, im fine with getting a simple no if it is a no-whatever
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Lumidaub@feddit.org · 199 pts · 23d
Shouldn't hide the company's name.
fadedmaster@sh.itjust.works · 20 pts · 22d
Might go to doxing the poster if it's a local company.
Crackhappy@lemmy.world · 77 pts · 23d
This is not a meme. This is just sad.
AlteredEgo@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 21d
Reminds me of how "The Man from Mars" (by Stanisław Lem) finally understand what humor was about. Look at most jokes ignoring the humor and you find be an endless stream of tragedies.
Dookieman12@piefed.social · -35 pts · 22d
atopi@piefed.blahaj.zone · 18 pts · 22d
I personally wouldnt insult someone for not considering a definition of a word that isnt even relevant in this context
Sidhean@piefed.social · 5 pts · 22d
Thanks, you too!
fyzzlefry@retrolemmy.com · 3 pts · 22d
Coming in hot! Damn dude, who pissed in your oatmeal this morning?
bold_omi@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 22d
'Twas I.
BlackLaZoR@lemmy.world · 74 pts · 22d
He spent more time writing the prompt than he would with just writing an email. I think you dodged a bullet by not getting hired there
altkey@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 40 pts · 22d
I find it amusing that they tried to automate it with variables, etc, but seemingly wanted to make LLM generate a new response every time. Standard once written or even generated rejection form could've been more economically sound. But, but - then you wouldn't up the metrics of AI usage in your department!
BackgrndNoize@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 22d
Also email templates are a solved problem, there is like no reason to use AI for this
yetAnotherUser@discuss.tchncs.de · 4 pts · 22d
"Please generate an AI prompt for a polite rejection message for a candidate that wasn't picked"
ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de · 2 pts · 22d
I think the prompt might have been set up for like 1000 people, though.
almost1337@lemmy.zip · 7 pts · 22d
You can set up a basic non-LLM template for like 1000 people, too
Viceversa@lemmy.world · -7 pts · 22d
Who's he?
gedfromgont@piefed.ca · 70 pts · 23d
Employers "mimimi, don't write your cover letter with AI!!!"
MoffKalast@lemmy.world · 56 pts · 23d
Lukewarm regards
massive_bereavement@fedia.io · 15 pts · 22d
Tepid regards
0x0@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 9 pts · 22d
Absolute zero regards?
MajorasTerribleFate@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 22d
Negative Kelven regards,
Viceversa@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 22d
Who's KelvEn?
MajorasTerribleFate@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 22d
Look, you. Not all of us are en the know about how to spell names.
cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca · 49 pts · 22d
Wouldn't it have been easier to just get AI to wrote the message and then just use that same canned response going forward instead of using AI to generate it each time? What a waste of resources
heartSagan5@lemmy.zip · 33 pts · 22d
If it’s a canned response, why not just do it yourself? It’d take like 5 minutes. Oh, those skills are rotting because AI? Yeah.
Avicenna@programming.dev · 9 pts · 22d
because they probably fired the person who does it and filled the position with AI
Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 22d
Also people don't know how to be social anymore so they find it easier to tell a robot to write a warm rejection email rather than writing one themselves.
lazynooblet@lazysoci.al · 6 pts · 22d
I see this a lot. I got brought into a project where the entire CI/CD was a prompt.
Malyca@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 22d
Who's to say this isn't ai's best effort?
CyberEgg@discuss.tchncs.de · 45 pts · 23d
Where meme?
ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 22 pts · 23d
This place has devolved into just images some may find mildly entertaining.
massive_bereavement@fedia.io · 14 pts · 22d
If only there was a community for that...
Dookieman12@piefed.social · -11 pts · 22d
protist@retrofed.com · 4 pts · 22d
I may not know what a meme is, but I know an asshole when I see one
Dookieman12@piefed.social · -11 pts · 22d
Learn to read
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meme
CyberEgg@discuss.tchncs.de · 7 pts · 22d
So explain, please. Where is the imitation in a screenshot of an e-mail?
Also, an internet meme is a distinct phenomenon, as even your wikipedia article mentions. I don't assume you read that far though.
Third, Dawkin's model has been refuted and proven wrong to the point where even Dawkins distances himself from this concept.
TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 44 pts · 22d
Reply: You really missed out not offering me a job, as I would have never made such a big mistake. But seeing how unprofessional your company is, I am no longer interested.
betterdeadthanreddit@lemmy.world · 36 pts · 22d
As a cost-cutting measure, rejected applicants will be given a prompt and expected to generate their own rejection message. {{Announcement_closing}}.
PattyMcB@lemmy.world · 22 pts · 22d
Now I want to know the company.
Viceversa@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 23d
That's not a meme. This post should be deleted.
Dookieman12@piefed.social · -12 pts · 22d
SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 18 pts · 22d
Why not just say "we are sorry but we will not be moving forward with your application at this time" like a normal person?
Unless....
ignotum@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 22d
Why not ghost the candidate which seems to be the most normal response these days for some reason
Wildmimic@anarchist.nexus · 17 pts · 23d
Yeah, the state of things is ugly.
HR departments get flooded with AI generated applications by the truckload, making automating rejections the only viable way to keep up - at least there was a conscious decision here to reply to an applicant, many just ghost them which is just bad form.
Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca · 51 pts · 23d
That goes both ways. Employers have been auto rejecting applicants for years, so applicants have shifted to automating applications.
Why should someone looking for a job take the time to craft an application, when it gets rejected without a person ever actually looking at it.
Last time I went job hunting (2yrs ago), I got a response from less than 1% of the jobs I applied to.
Wildmimic@anarchist.nexus · 14 pts · 23d
It sure does. I for my part always used the official EU tool for creating my CV and applications, which made applying somewhere a pretty fast act - if i looked for the next job, i just uploaded the file with my old CV there and could just add what was new. It's pretty useful even today i think! https://europass.europa.eu/en/create-europass-cv
My experience was not as abysmal as yours, but it also is much farther in the past - last time i was job hunting was around 2016. That 1% response rate is awful… only way to mentally survive that is by not expecting to hear anything back.
ideonek@piefed.social · 3 pts · 22d
You're making it sound like it was the applicant foult while the recruting proces was broken years before AI became common.
Also in the recruitment process HR is the professional while a applicant is amateur. The burden should be primarily on them.
realitaetsverlust@piefed.zip · 1 pts · 22d
That's complete nonsense. While people were (mostly) writing applications by hand for each, companies have been automating this process for over 10 years at this point, way before LLMs were even a thing.
percent@infosec.pub · 13 pts · 22d
Well it looks like this reminder worked 😆
gedaliyah@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 22d
Still better than ghosting I usually get.
NoPanko@feddit.uk · 8 pts · 22d
I don’t know, I think I’d rather be ghosted
MajorasTerribleFate@lemmy.zip · 11 pts · 22d
Ghosts are way more eco-friendly than AI, and way less tied up in billionaire wealth.
dan69@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 22d
Nah just shame em now… don’t let them hide behind this fallacy.
Macaroni_ninja@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 22d
Also when you click apply and within seconds get a rejection email and this is the first sentence:
"Thank you for applying, after careful consideration we decided not to move forward..."
spankinspinach@sh.itjust.works · 10 pts · 22d
And this, friends, is why you use a human in the loop if you're using AI
tiramichu@sh.itjust.works · 11 pts · 22d
The whole point is they don't care enough about you, the candiate, to put a human in the loop.
SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 5 pts · 22d
Just don't use ai
UnLocoPoco@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 22d
This has increased after AI. Heck rejections come within a few seconds of applying. Once I got (what I presume an internal-only info) something akin to "this opening is just for compliance reasons. We are actually not hiring for this position". This placeholder was sent with rejection email (again presuming its for internal info only)
yermaw@sh.itjust.works · 12 pts · 22d
I would actually enjoy reading that. We all know it happens, and happens a lot. Would be nice to hear about it so we know we didnt fail, it just wasnt possible to succeed.
mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works · 8 pts · 22d
Can't that be reported to whatever government agency that made the requirement?
roserose56@lemmy.zip · 6 pts · 22d
22 downvotes from that company......
Buddahriffic@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 21d
Downvotes could be about censoring the company name instead of exposing them.
MufinMcFlufin@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 21d
As someone else in the comments here pointed out, if it's a regional/local franchise or a small business then they could reveal their own location by revealing the company's name.
chunes@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 22d
What on earth about this message requires AI?
This is a simple string interpolation that anyone who has been coding for five minutes can write a script for.
SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 22d
It doesn't even need to be personal. Just send them a notification notice. Nothing about this has to be personalized, it's already going to their email. Anything more and it's just bs. Even the notification of rejection email is already kinda bs because when you never hear back, you know you've been rejected, and the email itself is a functional courtesy. It could literally just be:
Email:
From: company@company.org
To: you
Subject: jobname application rejection date
Body: none
boonhet@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 22d
The AI is meant to create the message contents here
mrfriki@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 23d
Softwaregore
FUCKING_CUNO@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 22d
Dookieman12 up in here making it his personal mission to provide a definition of "meme" to all the naysayers , lol
Nurse_Robot@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 22d
And providing a link to the wrong Wikipedia page as he's insulting people lmao
quakki@discuss.tchncs.de · 3 pts · 22d
You were getting placeholder rejection messages before AI too. As if I care about how personalized my rejection msg is, im fine with getting a simple no if it is a no-whatever
Rooster326@programming.dev · 1 pts · 22d
A simple fuck off will suffice too
Linktank@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 23d
This is where you send it back and ask if they're hiring for the position of the person who made it.