Dude my coworker keeps sending me AI astrophysics videos because we have arguments about "new discoveries" not being real. It's going to make people dumb as hell. Tbf he already is
The easiest way to get out of an argument with me is to send me a YouTube video. It has always been the worst source of information about everything, even worse than early Wikipedia. I will not watch your YouTube video.
And it's slow as hell. They always think their point is both complicated and interesting. Text remains the best medium for communication.
Sorta depends for me. If I can connect the YouTuber back to something valid like an event where science is held in high esteem or collabs with people I do trust I'll give it a shot. Basically every single time this is not the case, and in his case it's literally never the case. Dude searches for his batshit view, clicks the first video without watching it, then sends it like I'm supposed to filter it for him. He'd believe in aliens if the video had 1 million views. He kinda does anyways since the why files is his favorite channel and it's barely researched (by AI) slop, where whatever his agent can't disprove becomes a "mystery"
One of the examples that comes to mind is the Navy UAP videos, where he looked at what was clearly a bird, wing flaps and all, locked on to by a fighter jet and said "that's a craft and WOAH it disappeared (when the pilot lost autotarget)" as well as, "a fighter pilot on Fox said it's a vehicle of some sort and he's a lot smarter than you." And got indignant and walked off when I said, "smarter and paid or a lot dumber than me, either way he's wrong."
I brought up the dumbass sheriff chasing Jupiter on a winding road too and he felt it wasn't Jupiter because the sheriff was an expert witness for some reason. Dude's cooked
Idk about that, but certainly there is a very strong correlation between people like this and those who feel like they need to consult chatgpt or grok to filter out basic facts. Their willingness to give up their own thoughts and opinions bodes poorly for the future, especially of democracy.
It's valid critique, but I don't like the precedence of being stupid also taking away your humanity. Education can fail us in deliberate ways from the top sometimes, I wouldn't say folks with a bad education aren't human. Even for folks who lean out of otherwise good education, or who don't hone their critical thinking skills, I judge them as humans who suck. Being in the middle of a fascist regime and with mainstream news dehumanizing minorities, I think language around humanity is important.
There's a difference between this and old fashioned stupid. Stupid people still have thoughts, and those thoughts are their own. Even if they're stupid.
Stupid people still have opinions. They didn't get them from me, and if they rid they've been distorted beyond recognition.
I have stopped using the youtube frontpage and blocked the algorithmic recommendations from appearing.
Now I only browse my subscriptions.
My recommendations for food history: Tasting History with Max Miller + Townsends
For Military History: Lindybeige
For Medieval Clothing: Bernadette Banner
Medieval Life: V. Birchwood
General History: Premodernist
For ancient history and prehistory, there are extraordinary riches:
History With Cy
Dan Davis History
Stefan Milo
Ancient Architects
World Of Antiquity
toldinstone
A good way to find more, pull that thread, is to see which other YouTube channels these channels follow.
Seconding Max Miller. For history I would also like to recommend Timeghost. I suspect that most people interested in the world wars already know, but for those who don't; they've done both WWI and WWII week by week, with deep dives into big events (including a 24-hour D-Day documentary) and a big focus on the human cost of war. I cannot recommend them enough to anyone interested in recent history!
For food, Weird Fruit Explorer is awesome. It's very niche, but high level he's a contortionist who loves extremely rare fruit and travels the world on a mission to try every fruit there is, the rarer and weirder the better.
you should look on fmhy.net (free media heck yea). It gathers all sorts of free internet content like linking to archives with history content or places to find recipes.
Worked better for me than a searchengine for starting with sourdough (my starters could be dead by now)
Install the 'YouTube No Translation' extension to get rid of it, it's so incredibly annoying. Insane that Google still can't fathom bilingual people existing 🙄
true, I currently have about 5 or 6 extensions to keep that crap usable.
Ublockorigin for ads, improve YouTube for misc enhancements (block shorts, delete button on playlists, codec options), hyperchat to optimize the slow chat on live streams, that no translation extension, sponsorblock to skip in-video ads and identify sponsored content. Theres also dearrow but I disable it for performance reasons.
On mobile it not better, but Morphe fixes all of those quirks too.
Just amazing how shitty a service can get, but shareholder value shall rise infinitely I guess
Just looked it up, seems like Improve YouTube already does pretty much the same things as unhook (hiding unwanted sections, redirecting home to another page)
Lately, Youtube decided it would be a great idea to automatically translate every video into every language, so that people can watch videos from other languages without any barrier. A good idea in theory, maybe, but they implemented it by replacing the original creator's voice with an AI-voiced AI translation (without the creator's consent, of course) ... and the technology is far from good enough to accomplish that well.
Anyone interested in history better start collecting actual tangible history books before they're all destroyed, and read & learn from those books, before TPTB use computers & internet & ai to rewrite past history to change & omit past historical events for their own nefarious purposes.
I'm not trying to be contrarian or defeatist here, but would it really be useful if basically everyone else "knows" the official story?
I can 100% see why it would be important to fight for and preserve, but on the individual scale it looks like a steady train to being that weird guy who [hates our country / is a terrorist / believes our people have ever been baddies / etc]
Public knowledge drives public opinion and decision making.
A lack of knowledge of history makes us more likely to repeat history. Rewriting of history is usually a tactic that prevents mistakes of the past from being taught or learned, often for a direct benefit to an entity.
Turn off history when signed in maybe? Turning it off seems to work for me. Most of my recommendations on the side when signed in are from channels I have already subscribed to, while I typically avoid clicking on channels and videos that have clickbait-y thumbnails or titles.
I've got search history off, watch history on. When I watch something that I don't want to see more of popping up in my recommendations, I immediately remove it from history after. The resulting watch history plus a small number of core subscriptions results in quite useable recommendations for me.
Avoid the youtube frontpage and "algortihm" like the plague. I solely use newpipe these days. Only watch subscribed channels. Find new channels through external recommendations, Youtube itself does not recommend what you want or like, it recommends what they want. No tinfoild head stuff, just economics.
There’s a great quote “… the soul becomes dyed with the color of its thoughts.” from Marcus Aurelius. With this in mind I’ve been regretting the kind of person YouTube has been dying my soul with.
I’ve unironically returned to books and writing/reviewing in notebooks to fill in the gaps of my time. You can get notebooks that fit in your pocket and can just pluck it out and review whatever ideas you’ve been chewing on lately instead starting up a video. I add to the notebooks as I read.
When I have more time in the evenings I can collate those notes into broader writing projects, which are mostly simple blog posts. This process has brought me a fantastic feeling of clarity.
A related issue there is the question of what counts as AI. We all have different expectations about that. What you and I might say is AI. Well, Google might disagree with that because it's a definitional question and there are competing definitions.
I watch history videos to fall asleep, think I've found 10 channels now that isn't ai slop. I'm always very skeptical when I click on a video from someone I don't know. It's annoying as hell
I don't know if I'm using YouTube the right or the wrong way, but no, not seeing or watching any AI content. I watch like 5-7 channels, I only use the "subscriptions" page. I might watch a recommended video, but those are usually the old videos from the channels I have subscribed to. I have uBlock and another extension that blocks shorts. Maybe it is a shitfest, but I'm not witnessing it. There are plenty of decision we all make.
Unhook should provide more personal control of experiences within Youtube. If I must watch something controversial like discussions about opposition to AI, I use Freetube so that I don't get bombarded with unnecessary suggestions.
That Unhook sounded interesting, so I turned off my current YouTube add-on ("Hide shorts for Youtube™") and uhhh, the Unhook literally did nothing but arranged some things around lol. Not for me, the shorts and all were still there. But cool idea I guess.
It works where uBlock is otherwise being cockblocked from working certain parts. I generally use Unhook to get rid of the comments and live chat section, besides changing my location to a non-Western country.
What's been helpful recently is having a different native language than English. Coupled with the no translation extension that prevents YouTube's AI from dubbing stuff I already understand, I sometimes get interesting and specific recommendations.
Otherwise, stick to known channels.
EDIT: The downside of speaking multiple languages with YouTube's AI push is that it's gonna try to translate everything to you as if you were monolingual. Set YouTube in English and it will translate everything in English, even if you speak French or German. Set YouTube In French and it will translate everything in French even if you can speak English. This shit is horrible.
I found a really cool video I think comparing the pacific rim robots. Only got 2-3 minutes in because the AI voice over threw me off.
Checked out the channel and they made a kinda face reveal saying thank you for the views, with their actual voice. Even with their accent, I would have much preferred the human accented voice, verses the "perfect" computer voice
Technically, verse isn’t synonymous with poetry, and a section of a poem is more properly a stanza. So if we’re going to be pedantic about typos, we should at least be pedantic correctly.
Honestly I wish I hadn't done it the first time. I didn't think it actually would affect the algorithm, and it screwed things up for a bit. It really did help when I stopped watching chud crap though.
I try to stick to my same subscribed to channels and even these days, the quality has dropped because their revenues are being affected by the AIpocalypse
So some tricks and tips to ensure YouTube learns what videos you really want:
Turn off autoplay, don't let it go down an algorithmic rabbit hole only allow it to see what you really want and click on
Turn off the hover play on PC, this is annoying mouse over counts as watching they will be in your history despite no audio and you just had the mouse over it.. Again gives all sorts of slop in your history
Subscribe to channels you like, yes YouTube will quickly learn if you binge a specific channel you like the creator and put it on your home feed, but if the home feed is a bit too much slop you want to be able to just look at your subs
When you find that AI slop video and more from the same creator exists in your feed use the do not recommend this channel feature
there is also a do not recommend video good for some evil click bait titles that Google tries to show you for weeks and still not interested
the last two if it's persistent use the tell more/tell why
It's a long list but it's really 90% is the first two so your views are deliberate, sticking to subs is not a bad idea if the algorithm is particularly frustrating at the moment as it will also help limit the random walk. What anoys me the most is the first two are not account settings rather cookies so every new device I need to tell YouTube how to behave.
I really like fall of civilizations podcast, there are many hours of well researched and produced history. And also for a smaller creater underthefigtree is very cozy.
It is sad how widespread the ai slop has become on youtube. The official Criterion collection channel just released a video which has scenes that are entirely AI-generated. The channel for the record company Analogue Sounds has as well. And even if the videos themselves doesn't contain AI-slop, then a lot of them have AI-generated thumbnails.
It is disheartening how many people are just mindlessly accepting AI-slop in their daily life.
as long as the actual content is human created, a tts voice isn't that bad. some content creators are just not comfortable/confident enough to do the narration themselves
This was never an issue for me. I almost exclusively use the "home" (I guess that's "recommend") part of the youtube app and very rarely get AI videos in any form (voice, images etc.). The few times it's happened I do I just tap the three buttons and select "don't recommend channel".
About 80% of videos shown are from channels I watch regularly and the rest are a random mix of interest relevant things with a few completely random ones here and there. Not once has it been any AI heavy anything.
Did laserpig ever make the corrections video he promised to make when r/badhistory tore his T-34 video to pieces, or is he still pretending he's "just an entertainer"?
Bro wym there's all kinds of great history content on yt. Drachinifel, cone of arc, ocean liner designs, Nick Zentner (if you like the geologic history of the PNW), the list goes on.
I don't know what y'all are doing wrong but I never see AI on youtube. Starting with organic creators is the right way to go. Perhaps people who are experiencing this are browsing whilst not logged in? Algorithms have their downsides but mine knows I wouldn't want that
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Lasherz12@lemmy.world · 162 pts · 4d
Dude my coworker keeps sending me AI astrophysics videos because we have arguments about "new discoveries" not being real. It's going to make people dumb as hell. Tbf he already is
plantfanatic@sh.itjust.works · 22 pts · 4d
Ai voice or is just text to voice? Some people are adverse to having their voice online like that, but still want to participate in things.
Lasherz12@lemmy.world · 27 pts · 4d
Seemingly AI voice. There's a really good Kyle Hill video about them.
https://youtu.be/A2_8199CL1I
plantfanatic@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 4d
That was supposed to be to OP, but thanks!
explodicle@sh.itjust.works · 8 pts · 3d
The easiest way to get out of an argument with me is to send me a YouTube video. It has always been the worst source of information about everything, even worse than early Wikipedia. I will not watch your YouTube video.
And it's slow as hell. They always think their point is both complicated and interesting. Text remains the best medium for communication.
Lasherz12@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 3d
Sorta depends for me. If I can connect the YouTuber back to something valid like an event where science is held in high esteem or collabs with people I do trust I'll give it a shot. Basically every single time this is not the case, and in his case it's literally never the case. Dude searches for his batshit view, clicks the first video without watching it, then sends it like I'm supposed to filter it for him. He'd believe in aliens if the video had 1 million views. He kinda does anyways since the why files is his favorite channel and it's barely researched (by AI) slop, where whatever his agent can't disprove becomes a "mystery"
One of the examples that comes to mind is the Navy UAP videos, where he looked at what was clearly a bird, wing flaps and all, locked on to by a fighter jet and said "that's a craft and WOAH it disappeared (when the pilot lost autotarget)" as well as, "a fighter pilot on Fox said it's a vehicle of some sort and he's a lot smarter than you." And got indignant and walked off when I said, "smarter and paid or a lot dumber than me, either way he's wrong."
I brought up the dumbass sheriff chasing Jupiter on a winding road too and he felt it wasn't Jupiter because the sheriff was an expert witness for some reason. Dude's cooked
nobodysreadingthis@quokk.au · -1 pts · 4d
Its like they're not even people anymore.
Lasherz12@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 3d
Idk about that, but certainly there is a very strong correlation between people like this and those who feel like they need to consult chatgpt or grok to filter out basic facts. Their willingness to give up their own thoughts and opinions bodes poorly for the future, especially of democracy.
nobodysreadingthis@quokk.au · 1 pts · 3d
But also
Lasherz12@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 3d
It's valid critique, but I don't like the precedence of being stupid also taking away your humanity. Education can fail us in deliberate ways from the top sometimes, I wouldn't say folks with a bad education aren't human. Even for folks who lean out of otherwise good education, or who don't hone their critical thinking skills, I judge them as humans who suck. Being in the middle of a fascist regime and with mainstream news dehumanizing minorities, I think language around humanity is important.
nobodysreadingthis@quokk.au · 1 pts · 3d
There's a difference between this and old fashioned stupid. Stupid people still have thoughts, and those thoughts are their own. Even if they're stupid.
Stupid people still have opinions. They didn't get them from me, and if they rid they've been distorted beyond recognition.
Starf4rged@reddthat.com · 61 pts · 4d
I have stopped using the youtube frontpage and blocked the algorithmic recommendations from appearing.
Now I only browse my subscriptions.
My recommendations for food history: Tasting History with Max Miller + Townsends
For Military History: Lindybeige
For Medieval Clothing: Bernadette Banner
Medieval Life: V. Birchwood
General History: Premodernist
Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 24 pts · 4d
More recommendations:
Miniminuteman (history/debunking viral claims)
Ancient Americas (video essays about various pre-contact societies in the Americas)
Time Team (filming archaeologists as they excavate a site)
A Brush With Bekah (demonstrations of historical pigment use, plus education about why it's toxic AF)
Leonixster@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 7 pts · 4d
Google debunkers unite!
nightwatch_admin@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 4d
For military history also Animarchy and if you like a touch of weirdness, Lazerpig.
Hazel@piefed.blahaj.zone · 4 pts · 4d
History in Taberna is also great.
And Stefan Milo.
And How to Drink, when the episodes are more history focused.
niktemadur@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 4d
For ancient history and prehistory, there are extraordinary riches:
History With Cy
Dan Davis History
Stefan Milo
Ancient Architects
World Of Antiquity
toldinstone
A good way to find more, pull that thread, is to see which other YouTube channels these channels follow.
Blubber28@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 4d
Seconding Max Miller. For history I would also like to recommend Timeghost. I suspect that most people interested in the world wars already know, but for those who don't; they've done both WWI and WWII week by week, with deep dives into big events (including a 24-hour D-Day documentary) and a big focus on the human cost of war. I cannot recommend them enough to anyone interested in recent history!
asdfasdfasdf@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 3d
For food, Weird Fruit Explorer is awesome. It's very niche, but high level he's a contortionist who loves extremely rare fruit and travels the world on a mission to try every fruit there is, the rarer and weirder the better.
https://youtu.be/FkKPpOomdpQ
It's a very fun show. Sort by most watched though since not all episodes are the most interesting IMO.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 3d
i never login on Yt, so i try to swamp the algorithim my preferred feeds, of certain kinds of videos, pets/animal science, clips of old shows.
idiomaddict@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 4d
Another good food history one is OTR On the Road (got to the naming game late, I guess)
Little1Lost@gehirneimer.de · 41 pts · 4d
you should look on fmhy.net (free media heck yea). It gathers all sorts of free internet content like linking to archives with history content or places to find recipes.
Worked better for me than a searchengine for starting with sourdough (my starters could be dead by now)
FuyuhikoDate@feddit.org · 33 pts · 4d
Usually when its ai voice you need to switch the audiochannel.
My YouTube feed is 9/10 in English and for some reason YouTube tries to force German ai voice on me :(
Hazel@piefed.blahaj.zone · 33 pts · 4d
Install the 'YouTube No Translation' extension to get rid of it, it's so incredibly annoying. Insane that Google still can't fathom bilingual people existing 🙄
reev@sh.itjust.works · 18 pts · 4d
The amount of extensions that I need to have to make YouTube a usable experience again istg
mamg22@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 3d
true, I currently have about 5 or 6 extensions to keep that crap usable.
Ublockorigin for ads, improve YouTube for misc enhancements (block shorts, delete button on playlists, codec options), hyperchat to optimize the slow chat on live streams, that no translation extension, sponsorblock to skip in-video ads and identify sponsored content. Theres also dearrow but I disable it for performance reasons.
On mobile it not better, but Morphe fixes all of those quirks too.
Just amazing how shitty a service can get, but shareholder value shall rise infinitely I guess
kolmaskommentoija@sopuli.xyz · 2 pts · 3d
Unhook can be pretty useful too. Fixed my youtube experience, pretty much.
mamg22@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 3d
Just looked it up, seems like Improve YouTube already does pretty much the same things as unhook (hiding unwanted sections, redirecting home to another page)
blackberry28@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 4d
They prolly took US-Americans as a standard lol
OwOarchist@pawb.social · 10 pts · 4d
Possibly true.
Lately, Youtube decided it would be a great idea to automatically translate every video into every language, so that people can watch videos from other languages without any barrier. A good idea in theory, maybe, but they implemented it by replacing the original creator's voice with an AI-voiced AI translation (without the creator's consent, of course) ... and the technology is far from good enough to accomplish that well.
quackenbush@lemmy.zip · 24 pts · 4d
Respect for using the "Le Me" format.... It's an older code but it checks out.
GratefullyGodless@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 4d
Yeah, but i got confused on the first panel and thought they had mangled Lemmy, before i remembered Le Me.
kestrel7_7@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 4d
Lemmy was foretold... we just didn't know... đź«Ł
CalypsoGirl@lemmy.today · 19 pts · 3d
Anyone interested in history better start collecting actual tangible history books before they're all destroyed, and read & learn from those books, before TPTB use computers & internet & ai to rewrite past history to change & omit past historical events for their own nefarious purposes.
explodicle@sh.itjust.works · 7 pts · 3d
You can download all of Wikipedia!
yermaw@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 3d
I'm not trying to be contrarian or defeatist here, but would it really be useful if basically everyone else "knows" the official story?
I can 100% see why it would be important to fight for and preserve, but on the individual scale it looks like a steady train to being that weird guy who [hates our country / is a terrorist / believes our people have ever been baddies / etc]
douglasg14b@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 3d
... Yes?
Public knowledge drives public opinion and decision making.
A lack of knowledge of history makes us more likely to repeat history. Rewriting of history is usually a tactic that prevents mistakes of the past from being taught or learned, often for a direct benefit to an entity.
fodor@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 3d
LibGen will always be with us.
BagOfHeavyStones@piefed.social · 17 pts · 3d
I'm using https://aisloplist.com/ on Firefox and chrome. Seems to work well, not sure why it's not used by more people.
It's a community project / extension for identifying and blocking AI channels on YouTube.
Edit: another commenter in this thread mentioned an Android app YouTube Morphe which uses the same index. I don't know how to link to their comment.
nexguy@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 3d
I've been looking for something like this. I just want an AI filter on youtube. They already label videos "ai"
jaypatelani@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 3d
Need this mobile too
BagOfHeavyStones@piefed.social · 2 pts · 3d
Yes. Not sure why it's desktop only.
NENathaniel@lemmy.ca · 14 pts · 4d
Tbh I’ve gotten almost 0 AI generated content in my YT recommendations. Algorithm knows I won’t like it I guess
justme@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 5 pts · 4d
where does one learn such power? I'm daily blocking the entire recommendation section to not getting nuts
TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 4d
Turn off history when signed in maybe? Turning it off seems to work for me. Most of my recommendations on the side when signed in are from channels I have already subscribed to, while I typically avoid clicking on channels and videos that have clickbait-y thumbnails or titles.
Onsotumenh@discuss.tchncs.de · 2 pts · 4d
I've got search history off, watch history on. When I watch something that I don't want to see more of popping up in my recommendations, I immediately remove it from history after. The resulting watch history plus a small number of core subscriptions results in quite useable recommendations for me.
KSPAtlas@sopuli.xyz · 3 pts · 3d
Most of the content I watch is stuff that's less likely to be ai generated I think
abbadon420@sh.itjust.works · 13 pts · 4d
You're using Youtube wrong
Mulligrubs@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 4d
Youtube is full of fantastic history programs, what do you use it for?
I'm afraid
abbadon420@sh.itjust.works · 10 pts · 4d
Avoid the youtube frontpage and "algortihm" like the plague. I solely use newpipe these days. Only watch subscribed channels. Find new channels through external recommendations, Youtube itself does not recommend what you want or like, it recommends what they want. No tinfoild head stuff, just economics.
atomicorange@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 4d
Terrifying crafts
OwOarchist@pawb.social · 1 pts · 4d
abbadon420@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 4d
Youtube is more than just the website or the app. There is a ton of data that you can (or should be able to) use in different ways.
turtlesareneat@piefed.ca · 12 pts · 4d
This but for porn
expatriado@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 4d
i only watch history videos that either 3+ years old or from a youtuber i have some basic level of trust
MyVeryRealName@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 3d
Try older videos or a different website
criss_cross@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 3d
Nebula is a pretty good source for History vids.
DistinctBall@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 2d
Thanks I'll check it out
SleepyPie@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 4d
There’s a great quote “… the soul becomes dyed with the color of its thoughts.” from Marcus Aurelius. With this in mind I’ve been regretting the kind of person YouTube has been dying my soul with.
I’ve unironically returned to books and writing/reviewing in notebooks to fill in the gaps of my time. You can get notebooks that fit in your pocket and can just pluck it out and review whatever ideas you’ve been chewing on lately instead starting up a video. I add to the notebooks as I read.
When I have more time in the evenings I can collate those notes into broader writing projects, which are mostly simple blog posts. This process has brought me a fantastic feeling of clarity.
Bademantel@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 4d
As someone who wants to ditch YouTube this is helpful to me. Thanks.
I really struggle to find a good alternative use of my time. It hasn't always been like this. A humbling experience.
iatenine@piefed.social · 8 pts · 3d
Fwiw you can report undisclosed AI videos now but removing the view from your watch history is prob also a good idea
fodor@lemmy.zip · 0 pts · 3d
A related issue there is the question of what counts as AI. We all have different expectations about that. What you and I might say is AI. Well, Google might disagree with that because it's a definitional question and there are competing definitions.
NeilNuggetstrong@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 4d
I watch history videos to fall asleep, think I've found 10 channels now that isn't ai slop. I'm always very skeptical when I click on a video from someone I don't know. It's annoying as hell
manuremy@sopuli.xyz · 7 pts · 3d
I don't know if I'm using YouTube the right or the wrong way, but no, not seeing or watching any AI content. I watch like 5-7 channels, I only use the "subscriptions" page. I might watch a recommended video, but those are usually the old videos from the channels I have subscribed to. I have uBlock and another extension that blocks shorts. Maybe it is a shitfest, but I'm not witnessing it. There are plenty of decision we all make.
lechekaflan@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2d
Unhook should provide more personal control of experiences within Youtube. If I must watch something controversial like discussions about opposition to AI, I use Freetube so that I don't get bombarded with unnecessary suggestions.
manuremy@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 1d
That Unhook sounded interesting, so I turned off my current YouTube add-on ("Hide shorts for Youtube™") and uhhh, the Unhook literally did nothing but arranged some things around lol. Not for me, the shorts and all were still there. But cool idea I guess.
lechekaflan@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1d
It works where uBlock is otherwise being cockblocked from working certain parts. I generally use Unhook to get rid of the comments and live chat section, besides changing my location to a non-Western country.
Aeri@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 4d
I'm sick of all the extremely shitty formulaic "Sci slop" channels with illustration mas by Chatgpt
far_university1990@reddthat.com · 6 pts · 3d
Imagine not using sub box for all your video. Fuck algorithm i am the algorithm now.
Iron_Lynx@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 3d
This. My #1 starting point for watching videos on YT is not the home page, but my subscription feed.
Look at me. I am the algorithm now.
pedz@lemmy.ca · 6 pts · 3d
What's been helpful recently is having a different native language than English. Coupled with the no translation extension that prevents YouTube's AI from dubbing stuff I already understand, I sometimes get interesting and specific recommendations.
Otherwise, stick to known channels.
EDIT: The downside of speaking multiple languages with YouTube's AI push is that it's gonna try to translate everything to you as if you were monolingual. Set YouTube in English and it will translate everything in English, even if you speak French or German. Set YouTube In French and it will translate everything in French even if you can speak English. This shit is horrible.
MidsizedSedan@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 3d
I found a really cool video I think comparing the pacific rim robots. Only got 2-3 minutes in because the AI voice over threw me off.
Checked out the channel and they made a kinda face reveal saying thank you for the views, with their actual voice. Even with their accent, I would have much preferred the human accented voice, verses the "perfect" computer voice
HugeNerd@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 3d
"verses" is poetry. You wanted "versus", aka "vs".
mechoman444@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 3d
Technically, verse isn’t synonymous with poetry, and a section of a poem is more properly a stanza. So if we’re going to be pedantic about typos, we should at least be pedantic correctly.
SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org · 6 pts · 4d
I will never watch any of that slop. I'd rather stare at the fucking ceiling.
Redditmodstouchgrass@lemmy.zip · 6 pts · 3d
My algorithm knows better. It knows I won't hesitate to delete my history and fuck up its metrics.
lordziv@lemmy.nz · 4 pts · 3d
I have been using YouTube on the same account for like 15 years and I have never deleted my watch history :o
Redditmodstouchgrass@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 3d
Honestly I wish I hadn't done it the first time. I didn't think it actually would affect the algorithm, and it screwed things up for a bit. It really did help when I stopped watching chud crap though.
John_CalebBradberton@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 4d
It's gotten so bad.
I try to stick to my same subscribed to channels and even these days, the quality has dropped because their revenues are being affected by the AIpocalypse
It's a bad time all round
ezterry@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 3d
So some tricks and tips to ensure YouTube learns what videos you really want:
It's a long list but it's really 90% is the first two so your views are deliberate, sticking to subs is not a bad idea if the algorithm is particularly frustrating at the moment as it will also help limit the random walk. What anoys me the most is the first two are not account settings rather cookies so every new device I need to tell YouTube how to behave.
barryamelton@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 3d
I recommend historiacivilis.com
mobyduck648@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 3d
Good call, I enjoyed their videos on the English Civil War.
DigitalMus@feddit.dk · 5 pts · 4d
I really like fall of civilizations podcast, there are many hours of well researched and produced history. And also for a smaller creater underthefigtree is very cozy.
ProjektSpartan@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 4d
There’s always Extra History! https://youtube.com/@extrahistory
years and years of back catalog to catch up on if you’re looking to kill several dozen hours
PastelKeystone@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 4d
They maintain playlists to organize the back catalog which is an easy way to enjoy them.
Rothe@piefed.social · 4 pts · 3d
It is sad how widespread the ai slop has become on youtube. The official Criterion collection channel just released a video which has scenes that are entirely AI-generated. The channel for the record company Analogue Sounds has as well. And even if the videos themselves doesn't contain AI-slop, then a lot of them have AI-generated thumbnails.
It is disheartening how many people are just mindlessly accepting AI-slop in their daily life.
Psythik@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 4d
YouTube Morphe for Android has an option to filter out AI videos (along with ads and sponsored segments too, of course).
Paradachshund@lemmy.today · 6 pts · 4d
How does it know?
RobinFated@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 4d
I imagine previous viewers vote on it to let others know.
ABasilPlant@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 4d
https://github.com/Override92/AiSList/blob/main/AiSList/aislist_blocklist.txt
Looks like this is their source.
Paradachshund@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 4d
I could see that working well, considering how good things like sponsor block are
GolfFoxtrotLima@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 3d
Yeah, Same here honestly
nialv7@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 4d
as long as the actual content is human created, a tts voice isn't that bad. some content creators are just not comfortable/confident enough to do the narration themselves
Quacksalber@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 4d
The channel Historia Civilis has made excelent videos about the military exploits of ancient Greece and Rome. I highly recommend.
Passerby6497@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 4d
I've been enjoying History of Everything (Podcast) with Stakuyi for a bit now, definitely recommend.
lechekaflan@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 3d
Yeah, no fucking thanks to the techbros wanting all of humanity to embrace this monstrosity by arguing AI is the "new normal".
M137@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 4d
This was never an issue for me. I almost exclusively use the "home" (I guess that's "recommend") part of the youtube app and very rarely get AI videos in any form (voice, images etc.). The few times it's happened I do I just tap the three buttons and select "don't recommend channel". About 80% of videos shown are from channels I watch regularly and the rest are a random mix of interest relevant things with a few completely random ones here and there. Not once has it been any AI heavy anything.
mojofrododojo@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 4d
here's two historians I enjoy, you may as well:
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=sarah+paine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1FrhkLQnCI
rumba@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 4d
The algorithms have always been evil. youtube is best as entertainment by your own hand picked curated creators.
Berlinblades@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 3d
Take the time to Take those little surveys,or click on the "do Not recommend Box".
If you do it enough times,it rights itself......for a while!
neidu3@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 4d
Non-AI youtube history channels I like:
https://youtube.com/@historyofeverythingchannel
https://youtube.com/@hardthrasher
https://youtube.com/@lazerpig
Aqarius@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 4d
Did laserpig ever make the corrections video he promised to make when r/badhistory tore his T-34 video to pieces, or is he still pretending he's "just an entertainer"?
KingGimpicus@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 4d
Bro wym there's all kinds of great history content on yt. Drachinifel, cone of arc, ocean liner designs, Nick Zentner (if you like the geologic history of the PNW), the list goes on.
Bixcut@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 4d
I'm convinced Ned Zinger is a robot
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 3d
all the shorts are mostly AI, some are just reposted from tiktok. and alot of wierd animal videos are AI generated.
heartSagan5@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 3d
You have a poor choice in content because my feeds are very human, often long form and friction heavy.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 3d
nah i dont log in, and its not my problem its this way, im not giving them my data.
Mulligrubs@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 4d
Recommend "The Rest is History" program on youtube, very good and a large catalog of videos, zero AI.
RamRabbit@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 4d
If you want some good channels:
History:
More recent stuff:
halezinflames@lemmus.org · 1 pts · 4d
Star Wars: the slop machine strikes back
daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 4d
Sometimes you are lucky and that's just shitty AI translation and you can still switch to original audio.
HootinNHollerin@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 4d
Epic History
marcos@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 4d
Last time I looked, if you clicked on the thumbs down a new button appeared with some label like "don't show me more stuff like this".
OwOarchist@pawb.social · 4 pts · 4d
A button which Youtube's algorithm will promptly ignore.
jj4211@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 3d
Note on shorts they removed the thumbs down button shortly after AI slop became a huge thing in shorts.
That seems to indicate a certain direction to me.
snooggums@piefed.world · 1 pts · 4d
When the vast majority is trash and more and more trash channels spring up every day it gets to be a bit overwhelming.
kamen@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 3d
The "Don't recommend channel" button has served me pretty well so far (although yeah, you'd have to go through something first to mark it as such).
JasonDJ@lemmy.zip · 0 pts · 3d
Have you tried Extra History?
It's on Nebula and Youtube.
jama211@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 3d
I don't know what y'all are doing wrong but I never see AI on youtube. Starting with organic creators is the right way to go. Perhaps people who are experiencing this are browsing whilst not logged in? Algorithms have their downsides but mine knows I wouldn't want that
deadset@leminal.space · 0 pts · 3d
Me neither and I'm not logged in.