Yeah, pretty much. A large part of what made the face-pie so effective was simply the “we can still touch you” reminder. It’s a powerful message, because it reminds them that their bodyguards only need to fail once. It’s the old “you need to protect yourself every time, we only need to touch you once” thing. Which is why they’ve captured the courts and police, to deter attacks even when they aren’t under constant protection.
Did we? Or was this always a rare and remarkable incident, both in that it happened at all and it was captured and preserved for us to talk about today.
Certainly, you can talk about the no less than three different Trump assassination attempts. Or the Luigi Mangione shooting. Or the fatal stabbing of Bob Lee, CPO of Cashapp. Or the assault of Bryan Kobel, CEO of TC BioPharm, after a dispute with his Uber driver. Or the vigilante attack on Paul Pelosi. Or the Doohickey assassination of Shinzo Abe. Or the Charlie Kirk assassination. Or just run the numbers annually for violence targeting C-level officials
This study analyzes 424 open source reported incidents targeting senior private-sector executives between 2003 and late 2025, highlighting a sustained and accelerating rise in both physical and cyber threats. Physical attacks dominate (85%), and one-third of all incidents resulted in injury or death. Incident frequency has surged since 2023, with 2025 already doubling 2024 totals by October, marking the highest level on record. Targeting increasingly occurs at workplaces and residences, with protest-driven activity driving growth at public events.
But I'm not seeing any evidence to suggest we "stopped" doing any of this. On the contrary, it looks like we've got a rising tide of stochastic violence, both from within the state itself and against state and private leadership.
Interesting points. Don’t know if I recall all those offhand. But the Cashapp guy for instance, that was a fight between two people of essentially the same class over some family / dating / cocaine issue. That doesn’t really fit the pattern we’re talking about here.
Easily get shot these days. Most of the big names are surrounded by exSF who are carrying far more firepower in their briefcases than any one of us can ever purchase.
Most of the time they are even carrying firearms that are illegal or never properly gone through NFA. A few rappers and their bodyguard occasionally get a weapons charge but you never see Musks or Fuckerberg get in trouble.
I seem to recall some video of Musk going through security at a courthouse, and hoping he would slip up with a gun or a bag of cocaine. I’m sure nothing would have happened to him.
The first act of political violence in Australia was when PM Billy Hughes was struck by an egg that was thrown at him during a speech in favor of conscription.
The second act of political violence in Australia was when PM Hughes jumped into the crowd to throw hands with the egg-thrower.
Honestly it's only bad once the shock were off and you don't have more pain meds because insurance denied you getting more. Being stabbed is worse, unless it hits something major enough to cause shock in the first place. Then insurance will only approve mild localized anesthesia to fix it and ibuprofen but as long as you don't have to move, breath, or otherwise exist as a person, you're good!
Nah, I’ve been stabbed and shot. Getting shot was wayworse.
I was stabbed while fighting some white supes who were trying to take over a bar. My buddy was working as a bouncer so we were there to hang out. It was winter so we all had big puffy coats on while we hung out at the front of the bar. He had some skinheads show up and try to get in. He started to bounce them, they pushed back, and suddenly they realized that everyone outside of the bar were his friends. We got into a tussle, and the six of us kicked the shit out of the five of them.
But afterwards, when the ambulances were parked outside, my buddy was like “hey uhh… You should go talk to the EMTs now.” I had a pocket knife sticking out of my shoulder, punched through my coat. I casually strolled over and was like “hey, is this… A problem?” Two of the EMTs immediately broke away from two of the skinheads to work on me instead. It sucked after, for sure. But at the time, I didn’t really feel it. My biggest concern in the moment was the fact that they cut my favorite coat to get it off of me. Having my arm in a sling was honestly the worst part about it, because it was on my good side. So I had to learn to do a lot of stuff with my bad hand, because my good arm was strapped to my torso.
Then I got shot (in the ass cheek, of all places) while being mugged outside of a music festival. I don’t even think he meant to shoot me; I think he was just an idiot. I remember the gun going off as my back was half-turned to him, (which is how he hit my ass cheek) then him cursing and taking off in the opposite direction. That one felt like a white-hot muscle cramp. Like the worst muscle cramp you’ve ever had, combined with a super over-exerted muscle burn like you just did a massive workout. Ever had a kidney stone? Sort of like that. Docs said I was lucky he didn’t hit my hip bone, because that would have been crippling at least, potentially even fatal. I still have a massive scar on my ass from where it tracked all the way across my ass.
Given, the adrenaline probably played a large part in why I didn’t feel the knife. But I had plenty of adrenaline while being mugged too, and I sure as shit felt that bullet. But yeah, insurance denying meds is definitely an issue. For my gunshot, they refused my pain meds. So I suffered through that entire recovery period with just ibuprofen, Tylenol, and weed. Ironically, they approved the meds for my stabbing without a second thought. And the stabbing hurt way less, even without any pain meds.
You were lucky knife got stuck in and nobody tried to pull it off before you got the medical attention. The biggest risk is not the pain, it's loss of blood. Which happens to get worse when you pull it off.
Someone chucked a milkshake at Nigel Farage a couple of years ago and got a 13-week suspended jail sentence for assault. Along with endless pearl-clutching from the right and Farage talking about how distressed he was.
Which is funny when you compared it to back in the 90s when someone threw an egg at John Prescott and he immediately punched them in the face lol.
Funny story, here in Sweden, our speaker of the parliament was visiting a school to speak. Someone threw a "banana or part of a banana". Bodyguards "aprehended" the boy until police arrived and the boy was interrogated at the police station.
The speaker then started a criminal suit against the boy (who was 16) with the charge of disorderly conduct. The damage was noted as, "a stained shirt".
According to the speaker, incidents like this could cause politicians to not want to speak at schools (oh no... how will the children cope?)
Anyway, people are calling him out as the clown he is. And i'd be very surprised if he gets to keep his post after our election (regardless of who wins)
Eh, only if they want to, I am still pissed off that Maud Olofsson got away with the Noun affair and even got to decline attending a government review board about the affair.
We'd probably have a better chance of getting away with it in groups of 1,000+ gathered around/transporting guillotines.
What? I'm just tossing out hypothetical ideas here. *wink
There's an on-the-go version that's super compact! Instead of stone, which is porous / relatively high concentration of air, these ones are made out of lead to get all that pie in as small a container as possible. It even comes wrapped in a tiny little pot for you to cook it in - you just tap the back while pointing it at a deserving world leader and *boom!* it delivers a tiny, hot pie right to their face!
If we're going back to when we actually put ourselves at risk to fight back against our overlords, I'd rather we go all the way back to when we'd burn their houses down - often with them inside - instead.
I guess you saw that in your feed because the famous Noël Godin l'entarteur died a couple of days ago, he was well known in France and Belgium, I remember watching him on TV 😆
In Puerto Rico, someone got splashed with a water Boyle, the current party said they felt sorry and that kind of thing shouldn't happen again... It should happen at least 10 times an hour world wide.
I prefer bringing a guillotine to the meeting, like what happened in Salem during a council meeting with a data center CEO. Or Luigi style pie throwing, with bullets.
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mfed1122@discuss.tchncs.de · 144 pts · 11h
Without exaggeration, doing this now (depending on the person) would risk life imprisonment for bioweaponry terrorism, or just getting shot
Carl@anarchist.nexus · 75 pts · 10h
Yeah, pretty much. A large part of what made the face-pie so effective was simply the “we can still touch you” reminder. It’s a powerful message, because it reminds them that their bodyguards only need to fail once. It’s the old “you need to protect yourself every time, we only need to touch you once” thing. Which is why they’ve captured the courts and police, to deter attacks even when they aren’t under constant protection.
jaybone@lemmy.zip · 10 pts · 7h
I remember a few years ago, there was a big to-do about people throwing paint on their yachts lol. Even that was enough to scare them.
If they want to charge people with bioterrorism over pies, then the pie throwers might start throwing brick pies given they will face similar charges.
Blibly@lemmy.world · 25 pts · 10h
Because we stopped doing shit like this and gave in to bullshit civility politics. That shit only benefits the fascists.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 9h
Did we? Or was this always a rare and remarkable incident, both in that it happened at all and it was captured and preserved for us to talk about today.
Certainly, you can talk about the no less than three different Trump assassination attempts. Or the Luigi Mangione shooting. Or the fatal stabbing of Bob Lee, CPO of Cashapp. Or the assault of Bryan Kobel, CEO of TC BioPharm, after a dispute with his Uber driver. Or the vigilante attack on Paul Pelosi. Or the Doohickey assassination of Shinzo Abe. Or the Charlie Kirk assassination. Or just run the numbers annually for violence targeting C-level officials
But I'm not seeing any evidence to suggest we "stopped" doing any of this. On the contrary, it looks like we've got a rising tide of stochastic violence, both from within the state itself and against state and private leadership.
jaybone@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 7h
Interesting points. Don’t know if I recall all those offhand. But the Cashapp guy for instance, that was a fight between two people of essentially the same class over some family / dating / cocaine issue. That doesn’t really fit the pattern we’re talking about here.
Tiger@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 8h
Great research and insight thank you
Blibly@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 8h
Bruh I'm just talking about throwing pies in assholes' faces I don't need all this jeez louise
tidderuuf@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 10h
Easily get shot these days. Most of the big names are surrounded by exSF who are carrying far more firepower in their briefcases than any one of us can ever purchase.
Most of the time they are even carrying firearms that are illegal or never properly gone through NFA. A few rappers and their bodyguard occasionally get a weapons charge but you never see Musks or Fuckerberg get in trouble.
jaybone@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 7h
I seem to recall some video of Musk going through security at a courthouse, and hoping he would slip up with a gun or a bag of cocaine. I’m sure nothing would have happened to him.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 9h
Without exaggeration, doing it back then risked much the same.
These were brave acts then. They'd be brave acts now.
floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 6h
Yup.
What changed is not the risk, just how we perceive it. Not long ago living under fascism was literally considered a fate worse than death
unemployedclaquer@sopuli.xyz · 4 pts · 9h
Ooh did you say this is how to get.. Into a tickle fight?
oeuf@slrpnk.net · 2 pts · 9h
Is that because modern food is so unhealthy?
godsammitdam@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 6h
What happened to the dude who shot syringes of his piss at Ilhan Omar?
Aka a literal biological attack?
J92@lemmy.world · 69 pts · 10h
mastertigurius@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 8h
I hope that girl gets free drinks in whichever pub she sets foot in.
oeuf@slrpnk.net · 14 pts · 9h
Glorious 🤌
SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social · 13 pts · 7h
Was interested. It was a banana milkshake. That must have been sticky.
What a great person that woman is.
mtpender@piefed.world · 64 pts · 10h
The first act of political violence in Australia was when PM Billy Hughes was struck by an egg that was thrown at him during a speech in favor of conscription.
The second act of political violence in Australia was when PM Hughes jumped into the crowd to throw hands with the egg-thrower.
decolo@piefed.social · 26 pts · 10h
You Aussies sure are a contentious people
(with my full respect)
mtpender@piefed.world · 23 pts · 10h
"YOU JUST MADE AN ENEMY FOR LIFE!"
SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social · 4 pts · 7h
But I brought beer? It's cold as well.
teslekova@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 1h
Haha, fuck yeah, but also nah, it's all a bit of biff mate, better to throw hands than lock up a bastard. Unfortunately the leaders do both.
rumba@lemmy.zip · 13 pts · 9h
For those that need info, sadly, it left out the part where he jumped into the crowd, I wanted to know if he was a badass or got his ass stomped.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billy_Hughes_egg-throwing_incident
mtpender@piefed.world · 10 pts · 8h
TL;DR Billy is a salty sausage
heartSagan5@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 7h
And in the Epstein Files.
jaybone@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 6h
This is a good reason for Trump to want ICE. Turns out the local cops all suck his dick too though, so he doesn’t need them. Yet, anyway.
OwOarchist@pawb.social · 1 pts · 8h
Man, I bet he really had egg on his face after that incident.
kylie_kraft@lemmy.world · 52 pts · 11h
I would but I do not enjoy being shot
EggInDisguise@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 27 pts · 11h
Honestly it's only bad once the shock were off and you don't have more pain meds because insurance denied you getting more. Being stabbed is worse, unless it hits something major enough to cause shock in the first place. Then insurance will only approve mild localized anesthesia to fix it and ibuprofen but as long as you don't have to move, breath, or otherwise exist as a person, you're good!
Guess which country I'm from....
Carl@anarchist.nexus · 21 pts · 10h
Nah, I’ve been stabbed and shot. Getting shot was way worse.
I was stabbed while fighting some white supes who were trying to take over a bar. My buddy was working as a bouncer so we were there to hang out. It was winter so we all had big puffy coats on while we hung out at the front of the bar. He had some skinheads show up and try to get in. He started to bounce them, they pushed back, and suddenly they realized that everyone outside of the bar were his friends. We got into a tussle, and the six of us kicked the shit out of the five of them.
But afterwards, when the ambulances were parked outside, my buddy was like “hey uhh… You should go talk to the EMTs now.” I had a pocket knife sticking out of my shoulder, punched through my coat. I casually strolled over and was like “hey, is this… A problem?” Two of the EMTs immediately broke away from two of the skinheads to work on me instead. It sucked after, for sure. But at the time, I didn’t really feel it. My biggest concern in the moment was the fact that they cut my favorite coat to get it off of me. Having my arm in a sling was honestly the worst part about it, because it was on my good side. So I had to learn to do a lot of stuff with my bad hand, because my good arm was strapped to my torso.
Then I got shot (in the ass cheek, of all places) while being mugged outside of a music festival. I don’t even think he meant to shoot me; I think he was just an idiot. I remember the gun going off as my back was half-turned to him, (which is how he hit my ass cheek) then him cursing and taking off in the opposite direction. That one felt like a white-hot muscle cramp. Like the worst muscle cramp you’ve ever had, combined with a super over-exerted muscle burn like you just did a massive workout. Ever had a kidney stone? Sort of like that. Docs said I was lucky he didn’t hit my hip bone, because that would have been crippling at least, potentially even fatal. I still have a massive scar on my ass from where it tracked all the way across my ass.
Given, the adrenaline probably played a large part in why I didn’t feel the knife. But I had plenty of adrenaline while being mugged too, and I sure as shit felt that bullet. But yeah, insurance denying meds is definitely an issue. For my gunshot, they refused my pain meds. So I suffered through that entire recovery period with just ibuprofen, Tylenol, and weed. Ironically, they approved the meds for my stabbing without a second thought. And the stabbing hurt way less, even without any pain meds.
Mika@piefed.ca · 3 pts · 6h
You were lucky knife got stuck in and nobody tried to pull it off before you got the medical attention. The biggest risk is not the pain, it's loss of blood. Which happens to get worse when you pull it off.
EggInDisguise@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 5h
I've been stabbed clean through my left hand, and shot in the side.
Drunk "friend" thinking they're funny, and driving through Columbus and got hit by a stray through my car door.
The stabbing was worse in terms of short term pain, but was way quicker to heal.
ragebutt@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 14 pts · 10h
Cops and secret service don’t just shoot you once in the leg dude, they unload the clip center mass until you’re dead
EggInDisguise@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 8 pts · 10h
(it's a mostly joking comment, don't take it so seriously)
nullspace@lemmy.world · 42 pts · 8h
You do something like that today they'll try to put you away for 30 years on terrorism charges.
CrabAndBroom@lemmy.ml · 31 pts · 7h
Someone chucked a milkshake at Nigel Farage a couple of years ago and got a 13-week suspended jail sentence for assault. Along with endless pearl-clutching from the right and Farage talking about how distressed he was.
Which is funny when you compared it to back in the 90s when someone threw an egg at John Prescott and he immediately punched them in the face lol.
JasonDJ@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 3h
A suspended sentence is just the ultimate slap on the wrist tho.
It's basically saying "Yeah you did a bad thing, just stay out of trouble for a few months and we'll call it even, k?"
heartSagan5@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 7h
guyoverthere123@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 33 pts · 9h
Shoes.
George W. Bush knew how to dodge a shoe.
Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net · 20 pts · 8h
4am@lemmy.zip · 14 pts · 7h
We found out not long after
TheBloodFarts@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 4h
Hell of a dodge god damn. The post-dodge smirk means he knew it too
TrippingBalls@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 8h
Thank you for the reminder and the laugh. I had totally forgotten about that
beejboytyson@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 6h
" 👉 hehe almost got me"
electric_nan@lemmy.ml · 27 pts · 4h
You'd get charged with terrorism now. Might as well go full Luigi.
Atomic@sh.itjust.works · 23 pts · 5h
Funny story, here in Sweden, our speaker of the parliament was visiting a school to speak. Someone threw a "banana or part of a banana". Bodyguards "aprehended" the boy until police arrived and the boy was interrogated at the police station.
The speaker then started a criminal suit against the boy (who was 16) with the charge of disorderly conduct. The damage was noted as, "a stained shirt".
According to the speaker, incidents like this could cause politicians to not want to speak at schools (oh no... how will the children cope?)
Anyway, people are calling him out as the clown he is. And i'd be very surprised if he gets to keep his post after our election (regardless of who wins)
baggachipz@sh.itjust.works · 7 pts · 4h
Wait, whoa stop. Politicians are held to account in your country?! What sort of magical utopia is this?
stoy@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 1h
Eh, only if they want to, I am still pissed off that Maud Olofsson got away with the Noun affair and even got to decline attending a government review board about the affair.
stoy@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 1h
That kinda sounds like Björn Söder...
BluJay320@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 18 pts · 11h
db2@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 3h
dylanmorgan@slrpnk.net · 17 pts · 10h
Sorry, Luigi raised the bar.
Reygle@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 11h
We'd probably have a better chance of getting away with it in groups of 1,000+ gathered around/transporting guillotines.
What? I'm just tossing out hypothetical ideas here. *wink
EntheoNaut@lemmy.ml · 10 pts · 10h
Waterpumpee@lemmus.org · 7 pts · 9h
bringing even fake guilliotines brings you to court here
jaybone@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 6h
Problem is Jan 6ers do the same thing. Then you become “one of them” to the majority centrists.
Kolanaki@pawb.social · 14 pts · 6h
Fitting, because pies in the face is the territory of clowns. 🤡
betterdeadthanreddit@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 9h
I have a recipe for brick pie that is to die for.
Murse@slrpnk.net · 2 pts · 6h
There's an on-the-go version that's super compact! Instead of stone, which is porous / relatively high concentration of air, these ones are made out of lead to get all that pie in as small a container as possible. It even comes wrapped in a tiny little pot for you to cook it in - you just tap the back while pointing it at a deserving world leader and *boom!* it delivers a tiny, hot pie right to their face!
betterdeadthanreddit@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 6h
Sounds familiar but I just can't put my trigger finger on it.
nightwatch_admin@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 11h
I hate throwing valuable food to the walking undergrowth.
snooggums@piefed.world · 10 pts · 11h
Use spoiled food!
OwOarchist@pawb.social · 3 pts · 8h
Just fill a pie crust with turds.
DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 5h
Rotten tomatoes are a classic. Perfect size for throwing.
rumba@lemmy.zip · 12 pts · 9h
no, no. pies are too visible.
Milkshakes are just a cup. Anyone could be carrying a cup.
Prove_your_argument@piefed.social · 12 pts · 10h
Sponsored by PieFed. Home of the cream pie.
My_IFAKs___gone@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 8h
Thought that was PieHub...
absGeekNZ@lemmy.nz · 12 pts · 4h
Pies are nice and all; but have you considered a dildo to the face?
It has a certain style after all.
magnolia_mayhem@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 3h
I love the Wikipedia pedantry in correcting that it wasn't technically a dildo.
absGeekNZ@lemmy.nz · 2 pts · 2h
Indeed, just a rubber flesh toned phallus. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
manuallybreathing@lemmy.ml · 10 pts · 6h
A local politicial got egged recently and when i saw someone about it he claimed it was a violent assault lol
Signtist@bookwyr.me · 10 pts · 6h
If we're going back to when we actually put ourselves at risk to fight back against our overlords, I'd rather we go all the way back to when we'd burn their houses down - often with them inside - instead.
Zier@fedia.io · 9 pts · 8h
Powerful people?
MrNobody@quokk.au · 8 pts · 11h
Can toppings contain potassium benzoate?
ummthatguy@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 11h
jobbies@lemmy.zip · 7 pts · 11h
I feel like you wouldn't get away with that nowadays.
Drusas@fedia.io · 7 pts · 10h
In the US, you would be charged with assault/battery.
Ariselas@piefed.ca · 7 pts · 9h
now replace pies with guillotines and I'm sold!
Kolanaki@pawb.social · 2 pts · 6h
Kinda hard to throw a guillotine at someone's face. They're pretty heavy.
_chris@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 10h
Except instead of pies, bowling balls. Or anvils.
RobotToaster@mander.xyz · 5 pts · 9h
Calm down wile e coyote.
Agent641@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 4h
Cops will execute you for throwing pies at the wealthy elites these days, may as well skip straight to throwing Lucy Parsons special pie.
Magister@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 11h
I guess you saw that in your feed because the famous Noël Godin l'entarteur died a couple of days ago, he was well known in France and Belgium, I remember watching him on TV 😆
daannii@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 11h
Rotten vegetables and eggs too
magnolia_mayhem@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 3h
Some of us Americans think this is what the second amendment is for
ToiletFlushShowerScream@piefed.world · 6 pts · 2h
We used to throw pies, now we just throw shade
Hello_there@fedia.io · 6 pts · 11h
Milkshakes are thrown in the UK. I like that better.
newton@piefed.social · 5 pts · 1h
The cake thrower of Microsoft boss recently passed away. He had a great career, RIP
Solrac@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 10h
In Puerto Rico, someone got splashed with a water Boyle, the current party said they felt sorry and that kind of thing shouldn't happen again... It should happen at least 10 times an hour world wide.
cannedtuna@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 11h
Is that Mitch McConnell?
WanderWisley@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 10h
No bill gates
godsammitdam@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 6h
Creampie your fascist billionaires and politicians.
...wait a moment, not like that...
magnolia_mayhem@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 3h
Yes. Like that
TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 1h
I prefer bringing a guillotine to the meeting, like what happened in Salem during a council meeting with a data center CEO. Or Luigi style pie throwing, with bullets.
Redfox8@mander.xyz · 3 pts · 8h
We need splurge guns for this fight
Malyca@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 4h
Rotten produce