Congress passed a symbolic resolution on Tuesday to condemn socialism — a move that saw eight Democrats cross the aisle to back the GOP on the measure.
The vote, which has no actual effect on public policy, was swiftly mocked by observers on social media.
"Voting to condemn an economic system that doesn’t exist in our country, to protect the one which we live under that exploits the working class to benefit the obscenely wealthy," wrote Melanie D'Arrigo, executive director of Campaign for New York Health. "This was Congress’ priority as 60% of Americans struggle to afford food, housing and healthcare. Embarrassing."
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foggy@lemmy.world · 102 pts · 16h
Here are the 8 Democrats who voted in favor of the resolution:
Kathy Castor (FL)
Henry Cuellar (TX)
Don Davis (NC)
Jared Golden (ME)
Vicente Gonzalez Jr. (TX)
Marie Gluesenkamp Perez (WA)
Darren Soto (FL)
Gabe Vasquez (NM)
velma@sh.itjust.works · 42 pts · 16h
Fucking Marie Glusenkamp Perez smh. She’s in a difficult district, but there’s no excuse for some of her votes while in office here.
Hideakikarate@sh.itjust.works · 21 pts · 15h
I swear she's in every "Democrat crossed the aisle" post. I can't even write to her because I'm not in her district, even though I had her on my ballot the year she got in.
velma@sh.itjust.works · 16 pts · 15h
She’s better than a Republican in that spot in that she votes with her party sometimes instead of never. It’s hard though because I think some of her votes have really betrayed those that voted for her as well.
reddig33@lemmy.world · 33 pts · 16h
Cuellar almost lost his primary to an actual progressive — in Texas! This is why it’s important to vote in your local primaries.
Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 15 pts · 13h
In fact, he was far behind Jessica Cisneros until Pelosi, Clyburn, and other DNC leadership bigwigs flew in to campaign for him.
vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 6h
I honestly wish out of state influences weren't allowed to assist in state level races, same for local. If they do interfere they should be tazed on their crotch and then dragged to a shooting range for a live fire exercise, from president to county officials they should all be subject.
I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 14h
"Almost" only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades.
Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 15 pts · 13h
Almost as in "was losing soundly until Pelosi, Clyburn, and other DNC leadership bigwigs flew in from other states to campaign for him".
If not for their blatant abuse of influence interference specifically to retain the last anti choice racist Dem left in Congress, we'd have had the excellent Jessica Cisneros in stead, no doubt about it.
I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 12h
My point is that essentially ALL elections these days have blatant abuse. So saying "well if it wasn't for the blatant abuse..." is pointless because it's pretty much guaranteed to be present. It doesn't really matter how close or popular someone gets because the powers that be have their thumb on the scale.
Notyou@sopuli.xyz · 0 pts · 6h
Not really. If someone wins with 51% of the vote, they normally look to the other side for policy. If they win with 90% of the vote they don't care about the other side.
JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca · 14 pts · 16h
Jared Golden isn't a Democrat, he's a good ole boy that ran a conservative campaign in a red district and continues to act accordingly.
jaybone@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 14h
WA surprises me. From out in the sticks maybe?
FL, TX, no surprise there.
Sanguine@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 12h
The closer you get to Idaho the more republican the state gets🤢
Branch_Ranch@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 9h
The 3rd district is in SW Washington state, just across the river from Portland Oregon. Quite a ways to Idaho.
100_kg_90_de_belin@feddit.it · 2 pts · 13h
The DINO-est of DINOs
FiniteBanjo@feddit.online · 1 pts · 11h
Unless there is a single primary still open I sincerely don't give a fuck.
BigMacHole@thelemmy.club · 66 pts · 15h
I HATE Socialism!
-Republicans on Welfare!
reddig33@lemmy.world · 45 pts · 16h
Socialism like public schools and your local fire departments, roads paid for by tax money instead of tolls. Etc etc.
CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 14h
Don't worry, the most extremist of conservatives think those are evil, too. Well, at least public schools (and the post office).
The dipshit libertarian wing of conservatism don't want public roads or fire departments, as well.
some_kind_of_guy@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 14h
Don't forget the most valuable data center in town, the public library.
CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 10h
Oh, right. I still remember coming into work and some guy was all in a froth over the notion that people are using the Internet, at the library, and their usage was not being tracked. This, at the time when you could still wardrive and find an open Wifi with ease, and he was well aware of this fact, but pointing that out did not quell his quivering rage over this non-issue.
I tried asking more questions, but they seemed to be upset at the notion that "terrorists" could use the library to research a terrorist plot and it wouldn't be tracked (by W's admin that is). Mixed in was the concern that teens and the homeless could be using it to watch porn.
It seems he was listening to something on hate radio on the way in and I suspect this kind of rage bait is meant to put the idea into their heads that libraries are cesspools and need to be defunded. I think the more recent rage bait about "drag queen story hour" is another bit of rage bait planted for the same exact reason.
I remember one thing he seemed to be fixated on, as well - people getting "free movies". Why don't they just rent movies?
Funniest bit of this conversation, to me, was me asking - "well, do you even use the library? Have you been to any of the local branches? I highly recommend you check it out." - their answer involved massive indignation at the very notion of them using a library, followed by: "we all have Amazon, why do we even need public libraries?" Well, case closed, I guess.
Soup@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 7h
It’s interesting, with those people, where even the faintest possibility that something positive could maybe be misused is enough to gut the whole thing, but you show imperically how capitalism is used for evil fare more often than for good and they’re chill with that.
3M and DuPont could poison a whole town, cover it up, and then get no real punishment, but if they even THINK about their porn-hungry, homeless strawman that’s enough to burn down their local library. Conservatives are deeply unserious people who cause deeply serious damage.
CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 4h
Oh, yeah, I remember talking to this guy about the corporate death penalty and the idea of a city or state exercising that right on a wayward corporation horrified him. It didn't seem to matter what they did; they should still be permitted to conduct business in any jurisdiction, no matter what the law is or the public sentiment, because "merica" (that was almost literally the reasoning, FFS).
But this guy was a total simp for corporations at nearly every turn. The idea of the Founders' original plans for intellectual property he thought was just ridiculous ( at the time, the concern was Mickey Mouse falling into public domain, as it should. This was in the mid-00s. ) and he thought was some Communist plot. 🤣 I'd love to know what he thinks about Steamboat Willie now in the public domain along with many other things now.
bunkyprewster@startrek.website · 33 pts · 14h
We treat this like a stupid joke, but they will be putting us in camps for socialism soon.
SippyCup@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 13h
Which, in this case, means anything that isn't strictly oligarchy.
phutatorius@lemmy.zip · 30 pts · 12h
It was a declaration of loyalty to the robber barons. Remember every one of the names of those who voted for this. They are not on our side.
FiniteBanjo@feddit.online · -6 pts · 11h
But they are more on our side than a Republican so still vote for them in the upcoming generals.
TheJesusaurus@piefed.ca · 24 pts · 17h
Those Dems should take a long walk off a short pier
FiniteBanjo@feddit.online · 2 pts · 11h
Unfortunately the primaries are over so we want those Dems to win in November.
TheJesusaurus@piefed.ca · 0 pts · 11h
maybe you do, I sure dont. Why the fuck would you want them to win?
FiniteBanjo@feddit.online · 4 pts · 11h
Republicans are always worse, without exception.
Didntdoit71@feddit.online · 3 pts · 4h
This is all too true. Every damn time, the Republican candidate is worse. This is NOT the year to abstain from voting and it's NOT the year for protest voting against a Dem candidate. Get the GOP shit stains out of the carpet before we try to renovate the Democratic Party. There will be time for that once the country is restabilized.
kreskin@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 12h
Lets just toss them off the end of it ourselves. Long walks take too long.
rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 19 pts · 16h
But if you dare say that Democrats don't fight for our interests, you'll be called a Russian bot that's suppressing the vote.
Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 10 pts · 13h
agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 12h
Do Democrats fight for our interests? No. But they don't fight against our interests as fervently as Republicans, so until we have ranked choice voting or something they're still the best choice on the ballot.
FiniteBanjo@feddit.online · 1 pts · 11h
Thats still true, yes. Some of these 8 are runnung in the General and every single one is better than a Republican, so vote blue.
TrickDacy@lemmy.world · -7 pts · 16h
rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 17 pts · 16h
TrickDacy@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 16h
rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 10 pts · 15h
The electoral process has already been captured by fascists. We aren't getting our of this with an election. I'm still going to be voting, but it's not going to be the "blue wave" everyone is desperate for. I'm putting my effort into building people power instead and a united front of the working class.
hoppeduponcoffee@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 15h
In the most ideal conditions, Dems would take a slight majority in the house and a near even split in the Senate. It’ll likely be be a bunch of performative screaming and stalling tactics, without being able to really defy Trump’s agenda. In fact, the corpocrats may cave to the GOP and break rank, thus furthering Trumps agenda.
This could just further alienate the Dem voting base and in 2028 split the vote (or just causing people to sit out), handing another victory to fascism.
rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 15h
Yes, exactly. That's why we need to be organizing counter power to the state, so we can supplant it with a broad coalition of the working class as they recede from their duty to support us.
TrickDacy@lemmy.world · -6 pts · 15h
rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 5 pts · 15h
What the actual fuck are you talking about? At what point did I say any of that?
Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 14h
Oh look, it's the dumb guy with the stupid opinions, lol.
VictoriaAScharleau@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 15h
Jill Stein is not a Russian asset
DJKJuicy@sh.itjust.works · 19 pts · 8h
HO-LEE SHIT. Fuckin' torched?!?!? That's a whole new level. I'll bet that they'll see the error of their ways now!
i_am_not_a_robot@discuss.tchncs.de · 5 pts · 7h
They burned down the whole building over this?
WraithGear@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 10h
torched is a new one… put on the pile…
torched
slammed
hit-back
shamed
blasted
blew up
crushed
the lot meaning fuck-and-all. An article with this in the title is not worth the LED’s illuminating it
pigup@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 9h
Clapped
DJKJuicy@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 8h
Facing calls
Cethin@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 2h
You really torched the people who wrote that headline!
OneWomanCreamTeam@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 2h
I wonder what's next. Fried? Obliterated? Unmade?
CileTheSane@lemmy.ca · 14 pts · 14h
It's okay guys, they were swiftly mocked on social media for it!
bjc@scribe.disroot.org · 13 pts · 13h
are we finally done with “slammed” and have moved on to “torched”?
postmateDumbass@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 13h
"pitchforked" will be fun for a day
watson387@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 6h
Still waiting for disemboweled.
Flower@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 7h
They're lucky they weren't eviscerated
kreskin@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 12h
Republicans being out to lunch and wasting everyone's time with culture war nonsense I understand, but Dems supporting this is beyond their normal level of ridiculously poor work. This is an embarrasment to the whole party and those 8 dems need to lose every bit of standing, support, and any seats they have within the party structure. I'm sure they will get right on that.
Mycatiskai@lemmy.ca · 12 pts · 11h
These 8 are the revolving villains that will take turns voting for or against legislation to make sure nothing moves left but status quo remains.
chahn.chris@piefed.social · 9 pts · 14h
If the dems win house and senate this November we all need to pressure congress to not pick Jeffries as speaker and Schumer as majority leader.
Those we need people that will drive real accountability, not controlled opposition.
FiniteBanjo@feddit.online · 0 pts · 11h
I agree but the reason centrists become speakers is because its hard to pass anything without bipartisanship.
chahn.chris@piefed.social · 2 pts · 8h
Do you think bipartisanship is still a thing?
Why do the democrats have to find bipartisan solutions but the republicans can just do whatever the f they want via submission to the executive?
The republicans in their current form need to be buried aggressively before we can get back to talking about bipartisanship and a moderate centrist Democrat is exactly the wrong person for this particular moment.
FiniteBanjo@feddit.online · 1 pts · 7h
Partly because there have been 48 or less DNC senators for over 13 years, currently 45.
I agree we need to bury the GOP and that most if not all instances of crossing the aisle have been detrimental lately.
Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca · 9 pts · 11h
I maintain that the US military is the very embodiment of socialism.
crayons_to_chaos@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 6h
Kathy Castor (D-FL) - (202) 225-3376
Henry Cuellar (D-TX) - (202) 225-1640
Donald G. Davis (D-NC) - (202) 225-3101
Jared F. Golden (D-ME) - (202) 225-6306
Vicente Gonzalez (D-TX) - (202) 225-2531
Marie Gluesenkamp Perez (D-WA) - (202) 225-3536
Darren Soto (D-FL) - (202) 225-9889
Gabe Vasquez (D-NM) - (202) 225-6316
HulkSmashBurgers@reddthat.com · 8 pts · 11h
Whelp, at least we know who the assholes are.
Maeve@kbin.earth · 1 pts · 10h
Rotating villains.
realitista@lemmus.org · 8 pts · 12h
It's just the first step to start a new round of McCarthyism.
qarbone@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 9h
Every single person who voted "yes" must be barred from office.
They're either an idiot, misled on what socialism is and where it's been enacted, or willfully wasting their constituents' time on meaningless drivel.
WFloyd@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 16h
Inb4 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NSPM-7
CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 14h
Everything about this compliant Congress is embarrassing.
hoppeduponcoffee@lemmy.zip · 6 pts · 15h
TORCHED! TORCHED I SAY!
rounding_error@lemmy.today · 5 pts · 9h
Link to votes
https://www.congress.gov/votes/house/119-2/289
OneWomanCreamTeam@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 3h
Oh my god, torched? If getting slammed didn't show then, I'm sure this'll work.
Cytobit@piefed.social · 4 pts · 13h
Could you possibly write a more vague headline?
spontaneoushumancombustion@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 12h
Set the aisle on fire
AdolfSchmitler@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 14h
Can't wait for the BBB cuts after midterms. It will suck seeing good people struggling but all the dumbass maga will be giving the face-eating leopards a feast.
voxthefox@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 14h
Unless they are literally on a spit above a fire then torched is on the same level as someone being slammed, which is to say not at all.
wh90b@sopuli.xyz · 3 pts · 7h
My congresswoman voted present, so I guess I'll just have to skip that section when I see her on the ballot.
Smaile@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 13h
Don't say torched unless the building burned down.
wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 2h
Wait I'm having deja vous. Didn't they do this exact same thing like three years ago?
null@piefed.nullspace.lol · -26 pts · 15h
toomanypancakes@crazypeople.online · 13 pts · 15h
A threat to who, exactly?
null@piefed.nullspace.lol · -11 pts · 15h
The Democratic Party
toomanypancakes@crazypeople.online · 16 pts · 15h
Oh? Well that's good then. The DSA is the only active political group we have that's giving at the bare minimum lip service to taking care of the population instead of enriching billionaires. If that's a threat to a party, then that party sucks and shouldn't be in charge of anything.
null@piefed.nullspace.lol · -16 pts · 15h
I'm glad you're happy with losing elections to MAGA in exchange for some lip service then.
Wild that you'll just say it out loud, but here we are.
toomanypancakes@crazypeople.online · 17 pts · 15h
OH! Well my mistake, I didn't realize advocating for the population and winning elections is what's going to keep MAGA in power. Let's just give all our money to Musk and Bezos and they'll surely take up the mantle you want the government to not. Brilliant!
null@piefed.nullspace.lol · -12 pts · 15h
What elections are they winning besides Primaries in deeply blue districts?
toomanypancakes@crazypeople.online · 9 pts · 14h
How are they a threat if they aren't winning elections?
MagicShel@lemmy.zip · 7 pts · 13h
Michigan is definitely not a deep blue district.
hoppeduponcoffee@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 12h
You got it backwards. The Dems are losing because they support the status quo, not progressive policies like the growing number of millennial and Z voters want. They’re the ones falling further behind because of this free-market fascist kleptocracy crap. You have Dems engaging in insider trading, supporting Israel, obeying corporate masters, breaking ranks and siding with the GOP/oligarchs… establishment Dems progressively look more and more like the GOP as time passes.
null@piefed.nullspace.lol · -3 pts · 12h
Where are they losing for those reasons? What evidence do we have that DSA-backed candidates will flip those seats in the general?
Mmm, a nice healthy serving of both-parties-are-the-same slopulism, with no examples given or reasons why the DSA would fix these issues.
hoppeduponcoffee@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 12h
They actually have a coherent platform. Go look at it. The DSA-backed guys like Mamdani are doing good stuff.
Meanwhile, the dems platform mainly consists of orange man bad, while ignoring polling that shows most Americans want universal health coverage , not the half-assed public/private ACA nonsense that fails to keep healthcare prices in check, while continuing to allow the insurance industry to profit off something that is a basic human right.
You have centrist democrats in battleground and red states resisting climate change timelines when nearly two-thirds of Americans want climate change addressed.
Meanwhile, you have the DSA proposing really good stuff, like eliminating the senate to get rid of disproportionate representation of red states with small populations, who have also gerrymandered the heck out of the electoral map to gain further advantage and shut out the power of a majority vote.
If you don’t want progressives to run a coup within the Dem ranks, then actually use a good platform 🤷♂️ They’re the ones trying to get rid of the corprocrats.
kreskin@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 12h
I think you're a confused republican.
hoppeduponcoffee@lemmy.zip · 8 pts · 15h
A threat to amoral capitalist kleptocrats. Gotcha. We need to protect them, for sure.
null@piefed.nullspace.lol · -14 pts · 15h
Mmmm slopulism.
greybeard@feddit.online · 7 pts · 13h
They are threat to the democratic party? The party that lost to a reality show clown without the DSA? The democratic party that's sat idly by as that clown turns the US into a circus? That's the party you are so worried about?
null@piefed.nullspace.lol · -6 pts · 13h
They also lost that election without running an actual penguin for President. Doesn't mean they would have won if they did. Some would argue they would have performed even worse. Penguins have a pretty incoherent policy platform, after all.
The Republicans have a majority and a packed Supreme Court.
kreskin@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 12h
What happens if they gain some power?