fuck thousands for a coffin. or hundreds for an urn. can i legally be burried in butcher paper?
can i donate my body to science and skip burrial all together?
i want my final action to be a big middle finger to the funeral industry picking on people in their weakest moments.
184 Comments
Boddhisatva@lemmy.world · 123 pts · 358d
Passerby6497@lemmy.world · 64 pts · 358d
Word of warning though, check out the company before you do so. My mother in law was in the medical field and had a coworker that did this. The company ended up refusing the body because they had too many bodies. I've also heard of your body being used to test munitions, which is pretty much the opposite of what a lot of people would want.
iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works · 61 pts · 358d
Hey look, once my body is donated it's not my business what they do with it. I'm the same way that once I hand over spare change to the guy on the street, it's not my business what he does with it.
Fondots@lemmy.world · 48 pts · 358d
Yeah, but if, like OP, the intent of donating your body is to ensure that one exploitative industry (the funeral industry) doesn't profit from your death, you probably also want to make sure that other industries (like the military industrial complex) that you also don't like aren't going to be able to benefit either.
0ops@piefed.zip · 23 pts · 358d
Weapons are good enough, fuck those guys. If I'm donating my body I want it to be for something useful, like improving medicine or surgery
systemglitch@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 358d
Sanity in the comments. Huh. Interesting find
exasperation@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 8 pts · 358d
In a sense, that's true. But we're also talking about making arrangements while we're alive, knowing that our wishes now will translate into action later.
If I plant a tree so that my grandchildren might enjoy the shade, I'm still making a decision to do something based on what I believe the effects will be after I die.
So if we're making decisions on where or how to donate our bodies after our deaths, we'd still generally want to choose a worthy cause.
Boddhisatva@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 358d
otacon239@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 358d
Not that I’d personally care, but I don’t know that I’d trust that they wouldn’t just ignore those instructions. Who would call them out?
Boddhisatva@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 358d
JandroDelSol@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 358d
i don't care what my corpse is used for if it helps people
Passerby6497@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 357d
Testing how shit blows you up is a weird way to describe 'helping people'
JandroDelSol@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 356d
tbh being blown up would be pretty cool
BagOfHeavyStones@piefed.social · 2 pts · 358d
Hello Mythbusters? Hehe
BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 358d
Also keep in mind if this is your wish you can't be an organ donor. Having a rotting corpse without any organs is a pretty unrealistic scenario and the data isn't as useful.
toynbee@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 358d
Among the other warnings here, if getting the cremains is important to you, be careful; my mother did this and we never got anything back. We almost didn't get anything of my father back, but my sister was tenacious.
bluGill@fedia.io · 14 pts · 358d
I don't understand why people care. My dad is gone. I can't get help fixing my roof from his urn. Some people do talk to the remains of their loved ones, but they can't hold a conversation so I have never seen the point.
toynbee@lemmy.world · 21 pts · 358d
Sure, I mostly agree with you, but some people do care. As such I just wanted to offer this warning.
However, I do have the cremains for my dogs and my dad on a small, out of the way shelf in my living room. In my more down moments, it's been comforting to think of them as "there" even though I know they're not. Also it can be a focal point when I'm putting effort into remembering them. Finally, I have a young kid; having a physical object to point at helps with explaining death to them in gentler terms.
starlinguk@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 358d
In the Netherlands you don't even get the cremains back. I have no idea where most of my dead relatives are. In Germany you get them back, but you must bury them. Putting them on the mantlepiece is not an option.
toynbee@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 358d
Fair enough, and perhaps not unreasonable. I know a lot of people want to spread them out, which I think is fine in a private area but at best debatable in a public area and definitely not in a protected area.
the_q@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 358d
Cethin@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 356d
Just so you're aware, it's my understanding that during cremation you're likely getting first only some of the remains back and second likely not only theirs. I don't think it matters, but I wouldn't be surprised if the remains of your father was some other ashes entirely. It doesn't really matter though. It's just a bunch of carbon at the end of the day.
olafurp@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 356d
John Oliver did a story on that one for people in the US. Donating your body to science doesn't mean it'll end up as dissected cadaver for medical students.
https://youtu.be/Tn7egDQ9lPg
nocturne@piefed.social · 63 pts · 358d
My son is in his water bottle. Never bought an urn from the crematorium.
obviouspornalt@lemmynsfw.com · 45 pts · 358d
This is a very sad two sentence story.
sunzu2@thebrainbin.org · 4 pts · 358d
elbarto777@lemmy.world · 21 pts · 358d
garbagebagel@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 357d
I didn't realize there was a choice not to buy an urn. When my uncle passed we paid for the urn just to immediately empty it and spread his ashes the next week. This is good to know for the future, thank you. I'm sorry for your loss.
nocturne@piefed.social · 8 pts · 357d
The cremains came in a bag inside of a box made of corrugated plastic. His mother and I split the cremains in the parking lot of a seedy motel. My half went into a big gulp or similar cup until I got them into his water bottle (it is a nice metal one, not like a plastic disposable bottle).
WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 357d
Is there a Ralph’s around here?
KingGordon@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 357d
It is our most modestly priced receptacle.
Kolanaki@pawb.social · 55 pts · 357d
Direct cremation is the absolute chespest way to handle it. They'll try to sell you a fancy urn, and may even say it's illegal to use another type of container, but you could literally do what they did in The Big Lebowski and use a coffee can if you wanted. The guy who invented Pringles had his ashes put into a Pringles can. The ashes themselves come in a sealed plastic bag, anyway.
My mom's are just in a wooden box I made for her when I was in highschool woodshop.
GlenRambo@jlai.lu · 13 pts · 357d
Cremation is fucked fir the environment tho.
Cataphract@lemmy.ml · 21 pts · 357d
TIL
Guess I'm signing up to be goo!
bitchkat@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 357d
Donating to a medical school is cheaper.
rmuk@feddit.uk · 13 pts · 357d
What would a medical school do with a Pringles can full of ash?
Quetzalcutlass@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 357d
I dunno, but dangle a firework in it and you've got yourself a hell of a party popper.
jewbacca117@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 357d
0x0@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 356d
Or just flush'em down a toilet, Captain Fantastic style.
garbagebagel@lemmy.world · 49 pts · 357d
Pay a local taxidermist to stuff you so your kid/friend/partner can have you hang out in their living room. I told my mom I'm gonna have her stuffed and posed like a bear.
Thinking about this now it makes sense why my mom picked my sister as the executor.
ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one · 6 pts · 356d
The one idea I have is to be taxidermied; doing an obscene gesture,
WoodScientist@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 356d
I want to be turned into a drone. I'll be just like this cat. It will be a much larger version. Used for deliveries or emergency services. And I will be completely naked.
SassyRamen@lemmy.world · 48 pts · 358d
A big part of your question hinges upon where you call home. Some countries have strickt restrictions.
SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world · 48 pts · 357d
I want my body dumped on the front steps of my least favorite living politician.
When they return my body to my next of kin they will dump it back on the politicians' doorstep
garbagebagel@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 357d
I didn't have a funeral plan but now I do.
glitch1985@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 357d
Quite the game of hot potato
raldone01@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 357d
There is a German song with this theme called "Ne Leiche".
IzzyScissor@lemmy.world · 42 pts · 357d
Regardless of the final resting place after the funeral - DON'T EMBALM. They'll pressure your family into embalming to 'ensure the dead look their best on the day of the funeral', but refrigeration does the exact same thing. You might think it's more 'dignified', but just do a quick google at what the process entails. It's ALL smoke and mirrors, and I'd rather have people at my funeral actually understand what my body is doing at that point - not the image of what a 'body at rest' looks like from Hollywood.
Blackmist@feddit.uk · 18 pts · 357d
Open casket funerals are weird.
Texas_Hangover@lemmy.radio · 38 pts · 357d
Sometimes you want to be sure the motherfucker is dead.
Quetzalcutlass@lemmy.world · 28 pts · 357d
He prefers "Dad".
Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 356d
My mum doesn't like being called Fatherfucker
Quetzalcutlass@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 356d
At least it's better than motherfuckee?
Lemming421@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 356d
I think it was Frankie Boyle that said at Margaret Thatcher’s funeral, the 21-gun salute was pointed into the grave…
nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 39 pts · 357d
i will donate my body to a necrophilia foundation
Karl@programming.dev · 6 pts · 357d
Wth
INHALE_VEGETABLES@aussie.zone · 15 pts · 357d
I'll give his family 15 bucks for the skull and dispose of the rest. I know a guy.
nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 357d
give me $20 and it stays in my will until someone else gives me $30
ivanafterall@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 356d
Do the hands still have any grip to them?
sqgl@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 356d
https://web.archive.org/web/19980505180543/http://prop.taz.net.au/Journalism/Necrophilia/.html
JustARegularNerd@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 356d
What in the fuck did I just read?
Anyway the disclaimer at the bottom of the page is gold
sqgl@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 354d
Oz Magazine (the authors of this) fought very high profile court cases regarding accusations of obscenity. Some of the zine staff went on to have very successful careers: Richard Neville and Geoffrey Robertson in particular.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oz_%28magazine%29
RagingRobot@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 356d
But which one would you choose there are so many
Lemminary@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 356d
Holy shit, can those even exist anywhere? You got me thinking. It feels like a potential rabbit hole.
ALLHAILHYPNOTOAD@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 356d
ALLHAILHYPNOTOAD@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 356d
Fondots@lemmy.world · 35 pts · 357d
My family has some experience with this
My mom's cousin was a wonderful person, her husband, however, was an enormous piece of shit in just about every way you could imagine.
She got sick and died, he never had a funeral for her.
Then he up and died maybe a year or so later.
My mom was still listed as the executrix of their wills, so it fell on her to decide what to do with him.
And she decided on nothing. Let the coroner haul his body away and never claimed it.
After a while they cremate the remains, they hold onto them for a while to see if any other next of kin wants to claim them, then after a while they bury or scatter them somewhere if no one does.
I'm sure the exact specifics of how that all works varies a bit from place to place, but in general that's gonna be an option. They can't exactly force you to pay for a funeral you don't want, and the local government has some plan on dealing with bodies no one wants to pony up for a funeral for (otherwise there'd be a lot of corpses of homeless people and such piling up in a freezer somewhere)
nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 6 pts · 357d
interesting. im guessing the parties that op has beef with still get paid in this scenario, though. they get paid with state money
Cataphract@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 357d
Would the bodies really be at a funeral home though? Maybe like during covid when they were running out of space in some locations but generally I think it only gets sent to a business if the paperwork is done. Would be weird to just start sending random bodies to different funeral homes across the cities every time someone dies. (I have no idea btw)
viking@infosec.pub · 6 pts · 357d
Where I'm at that's exactly how it works. Even if you don't accept the inheritance, funeral expenses are owed by the next of kin (jointly if there's more than one in equal lineage).
They might not be able to force you to conduct the funeral, but they will enforce the costs regardless. If there's an estate left, the next of kin can claim it back from the estate though, if somebody further down the line accepted the inheritance.
ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one · 1 pts · 356d
Depending on your jurisdiction, the State will act as the Estate Administrator. The State will liquadate all assets and deduct any expenses (funeral, taxes, etc). The money will then sit in a trust account waiting for be claimed.
MrsDoyle@sh.itjust.works · 34 pts · 357d
My body is going to a medical school, to be used for student dissection. Once they are finished with it, it will be cremated. My relatives can have the ashes if they want, otherwise it will be disposed of. My name will go up on a plaque in a special memorial garden. It was pretty easy to organise, just a matter of signing consent forms with a witness. Family are ok with it.
There's a chance my body will be rejected - infectious, too mangled, whatever - and in that case it's bounced back to family to deal with. I favour forest burial wrapped in an old bedsheet.
MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world · 30 pts · 357d
Same. I can proudly announce that I finally got accepted into "Harvard Medical School". 😉
Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 357d
bruh...
ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one · 1 pts · 356d
They are technically correct.
LaunchesKayaks@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 357d
Yo how did you get that set up. I've been wanting to for years
MrsDoyle@sh.itjust.works · 11 pts · 357d
I searched the university website for "body donation" and got a phone number and email address (dept of biomedical sciences).
There was a lot of info to read about what will happen. I had to let my doctor know so it's on my medical record, and my best pal is down as the contact person. He has a phone number to ring so they can come and fetch my body asap, and decide if it's suitable.
What inspired me was a documentary I saw years ago that interviewed a man who'd signed up for donation, then showed the process after he'd died, including dissection (from a distance). They also interviewed the students. It was very moving.
Cataphract@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 357d
Just as a curious follow-up, did they go into what would happen if your body is rejected or is there already a back-up plan in place?
MrsDoyle@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 356d
Well then it's "as you were" - back to your executor/family/friends to decide what to do. I personally don't care. I'll be dead, and I've done my best to avoid the fuss and expense.
cley_faye@lemmy.world · 34 pts · 357d
Don't die. That'll teach them.
3abas@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 356d
That's my plan. So far it's working out!
RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 356d
You'll get bored eventually.
Korhaka@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 356d
Missing at sea could count
LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 355d
It's been 20 hours so far since you last reported, Still holding up?
weariedfae@sh.itjust.works · 32 pts · 357d
2 things that piss off the funeral industry
Both are legal in my state. You should join the fight if they aren't legal where you are.
Both are cheaper than burial. With aquamation you get back a bag of cremains just like with cremation. The only difference is instead of fire they boil you in an alkaline solution.
With composting it turns people into literal soil. You can take that back or donate it to a charity that is repairing a forest.
I second the Lemmy user who suggested Caitlin Doughty and the Order of the Good Death.
Edit: spelling
axEl7fB5@lemmy.cafe · 5 pts · 357d
I never expected Caitlin Doughty to be mentioned here. Anyways, if you want book recs read "Will My Cat Eat My Eyeballs" by her.
yaroto98@lemmy.world · 30 pts · 358d
You can shop around for crematoriums near you. Most of them in the US pick up the body as part of their fee. $300-800 to cremate a body. They mail you the ashes in a plastic bag. Some will offer urns, but that's an extra charge you can skip. Most states don't consider burying ashes the same as burying a body. Different laws. You can prepay, and have a card in your wallet with the company's info on it in case someone stumbles upon your body.
My wife and I have spoken about what we want done. My plan for her is to cremate her, then go to a local nursery and find a nice hearty, long living, low-maintenance flowering tree she would have liked and plant her and the tree in my back yard.
Aviandelight@mander.xyz · 9 pts · 358d
Please note the larger/heavier you are the more it can cost. Also most medical programs don't like to take overweight bodies for dissection programs as they are harder to keep/work with.
Fondots@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 357d
Only half-jokingly, my suggestion te my wife is to have me cremated, then mix my ashes in with some concrete to make a life-sized statue of me.
Stick me on the front lawn and dress me up for holidays, put a pointy hat on me and make a giant lawn gnome, stick a bowl on my head to use as a bird bath, or dump me at a cemetery and let me be my own headstone, doesn't really matter to me, I'll be dead, I won't care, but I figure she might as well be able to get a chuckle out of it, and maybe ruffle the feathers of some HOA Karen while she's at it.
She actually really likes the idea. She wants to have my statue posed like Buddy Christ from Dogma.
And maybe go ahead and do the same with the ashes of any dogs I've had and stick them right next to me. Better than having them take up space on the mantle forever, and they're more deserving of a monument than I'll ever be.
yaroto98@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 357d
Bonus, she'll think of you and visit you way more often than if you were shoved in a back corner of a cemetary.
NABDad@lemmy.world · 28 pts · 358d
If you really want to stick it to the funeral industry, and you're including crematoriums and all other aspects in that, I think the only option is burial at sea.
Put it in your will that you want your friends and family to go on a deep-sea fishing cruise. Specify they must bring you along, and once they reach the approved and legal dumping location and have you naked and weighted so you sink, they can raise their glasses, make a toast, and pitch you over the side.
Meant to include this link:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burial_at_sea
Bahnd@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 357d
Out of all the options, this one seems like the best to fulfill OPs intentions, although if you dont know someone with a boat, it does not make it cheaper.
Plus. funerals are for the living, not the dead. Some families may want more than GPS coordinates as a headstone (or they will need to put one elsewhere).
I personally would be fine with this disposal method for myself, assuming it was not too inconvienent or costly for others.
NABDad@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 357d
My family tends to be less concerned with our remains. My grandfather used to say that when he died we should just "jam a ham bone up my ass and let the dogs drag me away."
Never quite understood what the purpose of the ham bone up the ass was, but I don't judge. No kink-shaming.
Edit: I should add, we did not shove anything up his ass and let the dogs drag him away. He was cremated. His instructions were to proceed with the cremation immediately with no time for family to say goodbye. However, my grandmother and my father (only child) decided to ignore that. We met at the funeral home before the cremation and just sat in the room with him.
To this day, he's still the best looking dead person I've ever seen. He was dead, and he looked it, but he looked like himself. Just dead. He looked normal, not some plastic, uncanny-valley version of himself that someone thought he should look like.
dis_honestfamiliar@lemmy.sdf.org · 4 pts · 357d
That sounds like a good way to stick it to the funeral industry given that deep-sea fishing cruise is probably not cheap 👏
NABDad@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 357d
Probably not cheap, but it can be a fun time, and if you do it right, you can save money on chum.
yesman@lemmy.world · 28 pts · 358d
The cheapest method is to abandon the body. People die without family all the time and the State has a method to dispose of unclaimed corpses. Cost $0
derekabutton@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 358d
That doesn't stick it to the industry though. Still gets them paid. It's not about saving the money from what I can tell
ivanafterall@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 357d
Abandon the body on the doorstep of the funeral company you're angriest at. If there are several, first disassemble the body into as many pieces as there are doorsteps.
derekabutton@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 357d
And then the state foots the bill....providing money to the company you are angriest at. That doesn't work for OP's scenario
NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone · 23 pts · 357d
Left in the woods for dog walkers to find.
drool@lemmy.catsp.it · 30 pts · 357d
Or dropped in a peat bog dressed in medieval knights armor clutching a modded gameboy color.
DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social · 1 pts · 356d
OP's clearly trying to get tips on getting rid of a body so I feel this is the best advice
swelter_spark@reddthat.com · 21 pts · 356d
There are burial grounds that are basically natural parks, where you have to be buried in something biodegradable, like a shroud or pine needle basket, and no grave markers are allowed besides something like a tree or uncut rock. (Burial locations are recorded by gps.) I'd like to be buried in one of these places. Not sure what the cost is, though.
Sheldan@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 356d
Wouldn't that also be funeral industry
swelter_spark@reddthat.com · 1 pts · 355d
Depends on who owns the land, I guess. But they specifically mentioned wanting to be buried in just a wrap or something, which places like this let you do.
LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 355d
Ironically enough, it sounds expensive because it sounds like someone bought a bunch of land for that purpose to appeal to people who want to be buried naturally. Big money Maker for them.
swelter_spark@reddthat.com · 2 pts · 355d
Could be. Being buried in one of the old, forgotten cemetaries that dot the woods in some places might work. You might be able to just add an extra body there and no one would ever see or question it.
neidu3@sh.itjust.works · 20 pts · 358d
Donation to a hydraulic press and/or hispeed cam YouTube channel
ivanafterall@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 357d
WILL IT BLEND!?
dmention7@midwest.social · 7 pts · 358d
Vot de fuk!?!?
quediuspayu@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 20 pts · 358d
Where I live the cheapest is to donate your body to science but it depends entirely on if the local university needs bodies or has storage capacity at the moment of death.
iii@mander.xyz · 13 pts · 358d
The problem is the solution: just die when there's capacity 👍
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 357d
a MD and I had an arrangement where he'd get my body in the event of my passing so he could take me apart and try to figure out what the fuck went wrong, but he retired a decade ago (i was optimistically expected to have another 5 years in the early 2000s). I'm pretty sure I'm too mutilated for a normal med school to want.
RodgeGrabTheCat@sh.itjust.works · 19 pts · 358d
https://www.greenmatters.com/p/eco-friendly-burial-methods
https://www.cremation.green/green-burial-options/
https://canadianfunerals.com/guide-to-green-burial-in-canada/
https://environment.co/eco-friendly-funeral-options/
Should get you started.
SpoopyKing@lemmy.sdf.org · 4 pts · 358d
Also a good video about body disposal. Good channel for death related things.
FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca · 18 pts · 357d
Donate your body for medical students to dissect
njm1314@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 357d
This is harder to do than you might think. First of all you have to have it all arranged beforehand. You can't do it last second. The bigger problem is a lot of places don't have the facilities to come get a body from random places. On top of that they don't want every body. Most places are looking for bodies that exhibit certain criteria. Certain diseases or certain disorders or anything that makes the medical useful for study.
FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 357d
I'm surprised they have so many bodies to use
bradorsomething@ttrpg.network · 17 pts · 357d
People are dying to volunteer.
Lyrl@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 357d
When one of my grandfathers died, none of his children or ex-wives wanted anything to do with a funeral or burial arrangements. My parents found a place that accepted his alcoholism-ravaged body, and they took care of things. I'm not sure of the details, and seems likely it wasn't a medical school, but some organization took the body "last minute".
jewbacca117@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 357d
58008@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 358d
I agree with this sentiment. It's insane to me that people need to cough up thousands of dollars to see their loved one off. It's so wrong, although I do accept that funeral providers can't simply give away their services for free. I would support a taxation that had a provision for funerary needs for all citizens. Universal death care. I mean, we're all gonna die. It's not like you can say "oh boo hoo I'm paying all this tax just for some other cunt to die on my dime??" because your day will come soon enough and you don't want your family having to blow their savings on putting you in a hole.
I wanna be harvested for organs like a Chinese dissident, and whatever is left can be mulched and used to grow trees or something.
But if we're talking "cheapest", in the UK and Ireland there's a pauper's grave thing where the state will put you in a very basic grave and with a very basic marker. Not sure if you need to be poor to qualify, or if they'll just do it when asked.
faythofdragons@slrpnk.net · 6 pts · 357d
There are burial aid programs and such in the US, but they're typically religious charity and allowed to dictate their own requirements. A lot of congregations have a church-specific fund for helping congregation members only, for instance. Some states offer financial assistance, but not all of them.
If there's no family to claim your body when you die, the state will typically cremate you and claim your assets to cover the cost.
drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 356d
Become entirely homeless and cut off all contacts and remove all identification so no one will be around to care when you die.
ivanafterall@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 356d
God that sounds so nice.
drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 356d
Well, in my mind it's freezing to death on a side walk pressed against a wall trying to stay under the one unobstructed over hang.
ivanafterall@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 356d
Please, I can only get so erect.
LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 355d
I'm sincerely curious, what is done with corpses like that? And who takes care of it?
drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 355d
They just stay in the morgue until there is no room and then cremate you for space.
LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 355d
I wonder why they wouldn't just cremate immediately, which makes me wonder if morgue is waiting for a moment when cremating a non-paying homeless person would be most time-and cost-efficient, horrifying I imagine that they might throw that body in with the next paying customer. You know family members are never allowed to witness a cremation of loved one, even if they're the ones who paid the fee. So hey, morgue might as well throw in a homeless guy, make it a two-for-one deal. Because surely there are costs associated with heating up the crematorium.
thallamabond@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 358d
Water cremation can be pretty cheap IF it's legal where you are
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_cremation
Patches@ttrpg.network · 1 pts · 357d
unknown@piefed.social · 14 pts · 358d
Do you have access to a woodchipper?
SaneMartigan@aussie.zone · 3 pts · 357d
I have a wood chipper and an anatomy degree. It'd be a real bother to feed a body through a chipper. It'd all have to be chopped down to about the thickness of my wrist. Limbs sure, but head and torso would be so much work.
You'd want an industrial meat grinder like what they make dog food out of.
unknown@piefed.social · 3 pts · 357d
I don't know how well it will hold up but the book Wilt by Tom Sharp covered this in, what I recall being, quite hilarious detail.
Caveat: This book is from the 70's and a product of its time. While I recall enjoying it when I picked it up (decades later) as a teenager, a comedy about a depressed man who hates his wife and regularly fantasises about killing her, just sounds like misogynistic bullshit to me now, no matter how funny it is. But maybe it holds up somehow, idk.
WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today · 13 pts · 356d
Live with cats. They will take care of it.
thedruid@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 357d
I'm getting planted as a tree
macncheese@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 358d
I don't know the cost but I kind of want to be composted. That's a thing.
ivanafterall@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 357d
I'll compost you bro.
weariedfae@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 357d
Slightly more expensive than aquamation but still cheaper than burial.
Flagg76@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 358d
I think the cheapest way here (the Netherlands) is around €750-900 and you are burned in a (fairly strong) paper bag or cardboard coffin I think.
But to be fair I don't care, i'm dead anyway, I don't have insurance for it, and if there is anyone left around me by then they can do whatever they want or not do anything. I don't have kids so they can't stick the bill to anyone.
bizzle@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 358d
In Illinois you can get buried on your own property, I told my kids to claim my skull for the mantle and compost the rest.
Bamboodpanda@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 356d
Science Vs. did a great episode on Human Composting a few years back. It's really touching and highlights a fantastic way to convert your death into life.
Here is a link to the episode. https://open.spotify.com/episode/6reXXkhnvGxpSvnCz8wP2c
svcg@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 356d
“It is every citizen’s final duty to go into the tanks and become one with all the people.”
Chairman Sheng-ji Yang, “Ethics for Tomorrow”
3abas@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 356d
Is it a luxury option for the rich?
Bamboodpanda@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 356d
No. As far as I know, its the cheapest legal option. The only hurdle is that only like 10 states allow it as a legal option.
glibg@lemmy.ca · 8 pts · 356d
Get eaten by a shark
steeznson@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 356d
When I die just throw me in the trash
GladiusB@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 355d
That's against the law lol
Godric@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 356d
To praphrase Diogenes and Frank: Just throw me in the trash!
OddMinus1@sh.itjust.works · 7 pts · 356d
Do a viking funeral. You know, that ceremony where you are sent out in a boat and a fire arrow is fired into the boat so it burns down while floating into the sunset.
But skip the boat. Have someone chuck you into the ocean and shoot arrows at you until you sink.
Bloomcole@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 356d
I want to be launched into the ocean with a catapult
Tangent5280@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 355d
Only heathens and foreigners would want a catapult. True noblemen would demand a trebuchet.
Bloomcole@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 355d
I want it to be with as little dignity as possible, just to ridicule all the pompousness and ceremonial BS
You can keep your fancy trebuchet!
Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 356d
Donate to science?
LaunchesKayaks@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 357d
Thank you so much for the info! I want to donate my body so I can be useful and help folks a final time. I have been getting awesome tattoos so my corpse looks dope as fuck
Sam_Bass@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 357d
Native American pyre
Duamerthrax@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 356d
"Sky burials" are probably cheaper.
Jarix@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 356d
Why Native American specifically? I'm thinking of Darth Vaders pyre and wondering if there's something different that the native Americans did, and also, what nation specifically if you know. They didnt all follow the same rituals/ceremonies
WanderWisley@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 358d
You ever see those old videos and photos of the monks protesting the Vietnam war…or you could do a sky funeral.
nylo@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 358d
what is a sky funeral?
lemming741@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 358d
Is that where buzzards eat you?
WanderWisley@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 358d
Yes
WanderWisley@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 358d
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sky_burial It’s the most metal thing ever!
KingGordon@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 357d
Check out https://funerals.org/about/
Korhaka@sopuli.xyz · 4 pts · 356d
Have nothing of value left when you die and make sure your relatives refuse ownership of anything. Leave it as a problem for the state to deal with.
Bloomcole@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 356d
Debt with scummy companies is much better.
Korhaka@sopuli.xyz · 2 pts · 356d
Max out all your cards or tell your kids to do so. Buy stuff that is consumable so there are no assets to reclaim.
EponymousBosh@awful.systems · 4 pts · 357d
Check Caitlin Doughty's "Ask A Mortician" videos, in addition to some of the other suggestions.
bufalo1973@europe.pub · 4 pts · 356d
Donate everything still working and the rest goes to a medical school for practice.
HurlingDurling@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 356d
Do that and your organs will get sold from the back of a van
https://youtu.be/IjkqxZkaDZI
bufalo1973@europe.pub · 1 pts · 355d
Not in Spain.
HurlingDurling@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 355d
True, this is more of a USA problem specifically
bamboo@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 4 pts · 358d
Who pays if you get so irradiated that you need to be buried in a lead casket, like the firefighters at Chernobyl?
GreenKnight23@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 358d
Walmart.
sunzu2@thebrainbin.org · 3 pts · 358d
But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 356d
No lie, i want a sky burial. Your body is split open and left on a mountainside populated by vultures, after a few days the villagers return and collect your bones, the only thing left. They grind your bones and mix them into crackers, which are then spread around the fields for birds to eat. Your entire body goes back to the birds, i love it. My wife isn’t taking it seriously but I mean it, i want one of those
abbotsbury@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 356d
I think you can just not claim the body and the government will bury it in a pauper's grave or something, but there might be some downsides to rejecting the body entirely.
DrunkAnRoot@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 356d
have your homies smoke your ashes in a blunt
sqgl@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 356d
Ashes don't burn any further. That is why they are ashes.
DrunkAnRoot@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 355d
so ull be inside ur homies forever
sunbytes@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 356d
There's a book called "Stiff" by Mary Roach where she looks into all the various ways to (legally) dispose of your body.
You can donate it to scientific research (my personal preference) and they will use it as a very accurate crash test dummy (usually).
Things like the glass in car windows and car crumple zones were invented with the help of such donations, and she claims that on average 14 lives are saved by every body donated.
PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 356d
I didn't realize that there were any illegal ways to dispose of a body, as long as it's in their will and sanitary
Duamerthrax@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 356d
There's definitely some limitations. There was a bit of an issue in my state when a Mosque wanted to install a cemetery on their lot, but they were too close to the aquifer and weren't allowed.
PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 356d
That's kind of what I meant by sanitary. Idk what the appropriate word would be. "Safe" I guess?
ricecake@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 356d
Certain types of burial allow the body to potentially contaminate nearby soil. Others can leave behind a void that can either collapse and disrupt nearby graves, or in some cases lift the body back to the surface in heavy rain. (Extremely uncommon now because essentially nowhere allows you to use those methods)
Funeral pyres or other forms of open air cremation are generally not legal due to concerns of fire spreading.
Whole body water burial is probably not legal in a body of fresh water in the US due mostly to the complexity of figuring out which law applies to that circumstance in any of the bodies of water that could be used that wouldn't be grossly undersized and unsanitary. (Basically that means the Great lakes, which are the only ones with the depth and size sufficient, but are shared between multiple states and also Canada. Usually the rule is that if it's not forbidden it's permitted, but body disposal is more complicated)
WoodScientist@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 356d
That's why you set up your OWN funeral pyre! Got a terminal cancer diagnosis, looking to go out on your own terms?
I mean, sure, it's illegal as Hell. But who are they going to prosecute? Are they going to put your ashes on trial?
PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 356d
I probably should have said "safely" rather than just "sanitary", I was thinking about water burials and ground water contamination when I said that.
And also just like... Leaving the body out in a public area.
As long as you're not putting people in danger, and you're not disrespecting the deceased, what would be illegal?
ricecake@sh.itjust.works · 0 pts · 356d
Most states have laws indicating you must involve a funeral director to ensure the.body is disposed of properly, and then define the licensure requirements for a funeral director to include the types of disposal they can oversee.
It means they don't need to define every type of burial you're not allowed to do, and there should be a qualified professional to ensure whatever you're doing is okay before you do it.
The libertarian impulse to say that if it doesn't hurt anyone it should be legal butts into the reality that every time we have that policy for body disposal things tend to go funny in unexpected ways.
PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 356d
No, I understand the need for laws around it, for people's safety.
But the restrictions seem excessive, since it seems likely that there are only a few options for disposal that a funeral director can be licensed to do, rather than training them on what makes something un/safe and letting them use their judgement.
And strange that they basically made laws that say you must use this private industry. If you're going to legislate that a particular service must be used, then that service should be a public service. But now we're getting off topic lol.
ricecake@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 355d
The laws are usually amongst the oldest ones in a state and only revised pretty infrequently if someone has a particular issue. The dead person constituency is pretty weak, so the matter doesn't get a lot of attention. Basically once they wrote down that embalming chemicals can't be explosive (to prevent the coffin torpedo and general miguided insanity) there hasn't been much need to update them.
In a lot of ways the funeral industry is better than others, regulation wise. You don't need to do business with anyone. You're dead. It's illegal to act as a funeral director without a license, and the regulations are entirely imposed in the director. If you've got a body to get rid of, you don't have to pay a funeral director. The government will take care of it pretty quickly if no one else will.
We've got similar restrictions on barbers. Except for the government giving you a haircut if no one else will. They don't particularly care if you're hairy.
I do agree though, a lot more basic functions of society should be fundamentally provided by the public. "Doctors" would have been a better, but less funny, example above.
Worx@lemmynsfw.com · 1 pts · 356d
I suspect it's different in different countries, but things like desecrating a corpse are often illegal. I expect if you carved it up and started throwing chunks around, that would be illegal even if it's what the deceased wanted. Probably storing the body away and not telling the authorities of the death would also be illegal
PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 356d
I wonder, if you could throw the chunks around safely without sanitation issues, would it be illegal if that's what the person wanted? Is it defiling a corpse if thats what they wanted done?
RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 356d
Sky burial.
muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works · 0 pts · 356d
IndustryStandard@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 356d
What is wrong with you
Delphia@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 356d
I mean... wording aside... "vaporised" seems like a viable alternative aside from procuring the necessary materials.