I was struggling so hard to find the original post, finally found it over on aussie.zone and then I saw that it was a lemmy.world post, an instance I've blocked on my local instance, feddit.dk. Stuff like that is what makes lemmy a bit confusing haha
Sorry about that, some people don't know ani.social exists and create comms on the wrong instances. They're supposed to show up in my local feed, but now they're in yours and you don't even appreciate them!
Also PieFed allows blocking all users across an entire instance, whereas Lemmy does not (I know that you know that, but in case it helps anyone else reading:-P).
When you block that many groups how many new posts do you see? And how do you sort the posts?
I have only blocked a few groups but added a filter for posts containing trump or elon in the title as I get plenty of that crap from other sources.
Regarding the anime and furry posts, they come in waves so it's not constant or if I want to get a break from the yiffing I switch between sorting by Hot, Scaled and Top 6hrs.
Not who you are asking, but I block a lot of communities (almost all of them political, when I want to look at political stuff I will go to other sources.) But I also sub to a lot of communities. It is possible for me to reach the bottom of my feed, but since I mostly check it between doing other things, it takes anywhere from a few hours to most of the day. And that's with me setting it to "Top Day" as my primary filter. If I'm really bored I'll do a pass through Top Week or Top Month. If I'm STILL bored, I'll set it to Active or New Comments, but usually by then it's like, "Okay time to go do something else" and I'll try to find some other activity to do.
I kinda love that people are willing to deal with these various technicalities and unknowns as a worthwhile compromise as long as it's not [input any walled-garden here]
@threeduck@aussie.zone aussie.zone is your server where your account resides
In all everything from other instances are shown while in local only your instance. If you want to find subs just select all and search or got to all in the feed bar and subscribe
Lemmy isn't too hard, it's just annoying at times. Like when your instance hasn't downloaded the content of a given community and it just looks empty until you subscribe to it.
Wow, so that's how it works. I signed up to a couple because they interested me and hoped in the future something would be posted, or I would, and then saw a heap of posts.
It wasn't dark magic after all. Perhaps it was psionics?
"you know how when a corner shop closes in town, you're still able to go to a different store, but if safeway has driven all the other stores out of business and then shuts down you'll fucking starve to death?"
This is exactly what happens with Churches. Someone starts a "hip" new church plant. Everyone leaves the local long-established churches. Long established churches shut down. Church plant falls apart because the guy starting it doesn't know what he's doing. No Church.
I could've sworn it was because young folk were disenamored with preachers and churches who are nothing more than whited sepulchres but what could I know
what a weird take. if anything, the church is the safeway and this happened hundreds of years ago. churches are basically macdonaldses already; all franchisees of the same central entity.
in the uk? the anglican church. generally in the west? whatever lutheran, protestant, or catholic denomination is approved by the state. generally? the main church of that country, which for most of them is in a 90/10 sort of situation, with some notable exceptions, like the us, which shouldn't be counted because a) it's such a small part of the world's population and b) their view of religion is so screwed up that it doesnt compare to anything.
Anglicanism only makes up a portion of British Churches. There are also Presbyterian, Roman Catholic, Methodist and various independent congregational churches.
Only Roman Catholicism is truly centralised at a pope. Anglicanism tends to stop at the Archbishop or the Primate. Which the UK has four. The Episcopal Church of Scotland, the Church in Wales, the Church of England and the Church of Ireland which also operates in the Republic of Ireland, but the majority of adherents are in Northern Ireland.
"Sure, that's an option, but no other social media I use requires a routinely read regarding whether I need to backup my saved items because it might shut down."
Let me just be clear that I personally don't have a problem with how lemmy runs, but I do think that difficulties and issues are heavily downplayed for potential users.
As someone said in another comment “you know how when a corner shop closes in town, you’re still able to go to a different store, but if safeway has driven all the other stores out of business and then shuts down you’ll fucking starve to death?”
It's crazy to me that whatever program you used to make that account on that server didn't automatically force a backup location on the same device where the account is used. On Android, some folder. On desktop, some folder. And it's crazy to me that we can't just import all of our votes, comments, and posts in that backup to another account on the same device or another.
That is a terrible system. No answers from me. Just questions
Oh man it really is too. I spent the better part of a day trying to find a good instance to join to post and I couldn’t figure out the various keywords and stuff; every time I thought I found a fit it was basically the opposite of what I needed. Then I gave up and stopped even wanting to do it.
Yeah I join two neither are great. And unlike here you can't see anything outside your instance. Guess I will keep posting to YouTube until they get their shit together.
I followed reddit sync over to lemmy. I didn't know how anything works but my experience has been roughly the same as it was with Reddit. I like the discussion here more though.
Exactly the same. And I still don't know anything about this place after 2 years. At least here I bothered to create a profile unlike reddit where I was just browsing and never posting anything
I actually saw an ad for Lemmy on reddit and here I am. Figuring out enough to make an account was worth it. They should do more ads.. or maybe not. We don't want too many of them coming here. Im still trying to cleanse my brain of the juice I drank.
Type a word for something you might be interested in, and if there's a community it should come up there. The main problem is still that the fediverse doesn't have enough people to support niche (or even kinda niche) interests yet
I would appreciate it if you could explain how I browse instances. I am using Voyager on iOS, not sure if that’s relevant, and I was trying to search for hexbear since people keep talking about it. Nothing comes up.
Then I tried searching for lemmy.ca, but it didn’t appear as something I could go through and browse, just a few of the communities there showing up in search results. What am I doing wrong? Or misunderstanding…
Heh, I read your comment using Voyager on Android. Yeah, makes it easier for me to check how things are done on your phone that we happen to have the same telephone client app.
Probably the easiest way to grasp these things is to browse Lemmy on a full-fledged computer. Voyager can do everything the interface made by Lemmy's developers can do. (Plus, Voyager has a sensible way of reading your own private messages, while I have no idea how to return to them on the "official" web interface)
Since a phone has a cramped screen, all kinds of hocus-pocus needs to be done to fit the same features on the small screen. So, use it on a big screen of a computer and you'll get things much better. So, here goes:
Now, open a web browser, write "lemmy.world" on the address bar and then click "Login" in the upper right corner. Write "buttnugget" in the field "Email or Username" and your password in, well, wherever you feel it would fit well.
Now you're logged in in the same instance you always use with Voyager.
Press "Local" here, and you will see content only on communities hosted on lemmy.world:
And then do some more browsing around Lemmy.world, just like you'd do with your phone.
Next, write some other instance's address on your browser's URL field. I'm using Sopuli, so that's one option: Try writing sopuli.xyz as the address. You can try logging in again, bit it won't work, because you don't have a user account on sopuli.xyz.
So, go back to Sopuli's main page and click "Local". You'll see only content hosted on sopuli.xyz.
Having browsed those enough, click "Communities" on the upper part of the screen, here:
...and then make sure you have "Local" chosen. Choose any community you reasonably like and click on its name. On the upper right corner, press Subscribe, here:
Clicking that button gives you a dialogue asking "Enter the instance you would like to follow this community from". Write the address of your own instance there, in your case lemmy.world. Sopuli will then tell .world that you'd like to subscribe to that community, and lemmy.world will handle the rest of the subscribing.
So, even though you're browsing a completely different instance, you can still also subscribe to communities there.
But alas... Some instances use a theme that has no "Subscribe" button. Which is weird. Try for example suppo.fi .
Still, there's something you can do: If you see anything interesting on any other instance, just copy the address from the URL bar, then go to your own instance (lemmy.world), click the search button here:
...and then paste the URL here and press [Search]:
You could also try feddit.org to see how the biggest German-speaking Lemmy instance looks like when you press "Local". Or lemmy.pt to see something in Portuguese :))
But now, let's get to answering the original question:
I do not think Voyager has a feature for viewing the content of one single instance only, unless you create a user account there. And that's a bit cumbersome. What you can do is open the web browser on your phone, then open some instance on its browser and either click the subscribe button if it exists on that instance's theme, or copypaste the URL of the interesting thing to the search of lemmy.world, again using your phone's browser. On lemmy.world you'll need to click the hamburger menu on the upper right corner in order to find the login button:
Of course, if you want to subscribe to things with your own account, you need to be logged in :) Whatever you subscribe to with any browser will then immediately be visible on Voyager as well, as it's just another interface for the same Lemmy.
What you can, however, do on Voyager, is press "Posts" on the lower part of your screen (sometimes you need to press it several times):
And then click "All" here:
That will show you content regardless of what instance it was published on. But, as you remember from having browsed the various instances on your web browser, there's a lot of content you cannot see in that view. But, what you can indeed do is open the interesting instances on your phone's browser (or your computer's browser), browse the communities there, and subscribe to whatever you find interesting. Remember, you'll only need to do this once, because once you've found the communities you find interesting and subscribed to them, they'll be visible on Voyager just fine :) If for whatever reason you want to have user accounts on several communities at once, Voyager does support that. Once you've created a user account on some instance, you can add it to Voyager.
The barrier to entry is a feature! All those fools on FB and Reddit are there because they're told there's no friction. It's the internet version of Wal-Mart. Anyone can find their way in.
I want to hang with people who are at least smart enough to tie their shoes sign up for a Costco membership. It's a LOW barrier to entry, and that's more than enough.
What? No it isn't. Any individual instance is as simple to navigate as Reddit. The federation aspect is still in an early stage of development and implementation.
Twenty years ago, Reddit was in a similar state. It took a long time and a lot of effort to improve the system enough to be easily navigated and searchable (and then more time to mangle these features in the name of monetization).
But the idea that federated instances being difficult to traverse and filter against are intentional is utterly bogus.
I want to hang with people who are at least smart enough to tie their shoes
If you're not navigating Lemmy via VIM, you are literally a baby who shits himself and needs someone to change his diaper.
Wow. You're very much not understanding - I'm definitely not saying it's intentional. It's a take on the "It's not a bug, it's a feature" notion.
I'm saying that signing up for Lemmy not being as one-size-fits-all intuitive as Web 2.0 social media is a net benefit because anyone who tries to sign up, gets confused SO easily, and then frustrated and gives up is not the kind of person we want taking up server space on a Lemmy instance.
Good ass. It's not perfect but it respects your boundaries, tries its damnedest, down for any fetish/kink, there when you fall asleep and when you wake up.
The Reddit UI is so good though. I love browsing an album and accidentally sliding over to r/popular. Why can't Lemmy ask me to confirm my email account every time I try to look at porn?
The Fediverse is like a country, and an instance is like a town connected to the other towns in that country. You're free to travel, visit, and interact with people in all the other towns that have their roads connected.
Each town has its own rules and culture, but they generally get along with all the other towns in the country. You can even choose to build your own town with your own rules and have a road connected to the rest.
On the other hand places like Facebook or Twitter are like huge, walled cities where you can only interact with people inside that city. They also claim the rights to all of your data to sell off.
Cool, kinda makes sense. Still don't understand what the federated / defederated stuff that was all the talk yesterday. But I got a slightly more nuanced understanding. Thanks homie
An instance is literally just someone's computer with the software running. All your stuff lives on someone's computer. Different computers can talk to one another to allow people who put their stuff on those computers to see each other's stuff (federate) or they decide not to, like cutting off a computer with a lot of batshit insane people (defederate). They're running the same software so the language is the same. Like your stuff lives on lemmy.today, I don't know where and who owns that computer, while my stuff lives on sopuli.xyz, which is a computer that is owned by some random Finn, but those computers talk to one another, so we get to talk to one another.
A server isn't necessarily all that meaningfully different from Joe's laptop, it's just that Joe's laptop isn't exactly practical for running big things. My website runs on a real server, but it doesn't really act much different from a computer I have in my living room when I remotely log into it, I can access all the same files, run all the same software if I wanted to.
Federated is just jargon for "the posts and comments from here will display over there too because my computer knows yours exists and runs the same software and the software does the legwork of meshing all of that shit together with mine"
I don't understand why sometimes when I click on asklemmy at the top of the old.lemmy.world ui, sometimes it goes to regular asklemmy and sometimes it goes to asklemmy@lemmy.ml. And I don't understand why these two communities have completely different posts.
They are two completely different communities that just happen to share their names. (And one of them is full of tankies, while yours isn't)
How this works is the same with email: You can have john.smith@gmail.zz and you can have john.smith@outlook.com , but although those do have the same first name, the two addresses do not point to the same mailbox.
If a community is on your own instance (servers are called instances on Lemmy), then the part after @ is not shown. So, there is asklemmy@lemmy.world, and there is asklemmy@lemmy.ml. The latter one is luckily empty, as nothing on .ml is written without serious brainrot.
The one you see only as "asklemmy" is asklemmy@lemmy.world.
There are actually this many asklemmys:
Each of the above is an independent community. Each one was founded by a different person and has different moderators, etc.
When you login to Lemmy, you go to lemmy.world and login there.
I don't. I do not have a user account on lemmy.world, which is one of the instances (servers) for Lemmy.
However, I do have a user account on sopuli.xyz, which is another instance. When I log in to that, I can read anything written on any instances that have federated with sopuli.xyz. We are having this conversation in a community on yet another instance:
As you can see there, this community is located on an instance called lemmy.uk.
So, I am reading this through sopuli.xyz, which has a connection to lemmy.uk. When I write something, Sopuli sends all the text to lemmy.uk which then saves it. And then your instance, lemmy.world, has a connection to lemmy.uk as well, and shows you whatever is shown on that instance. When a Lemmy-instance creates such a connection to another instance, it is called federating.
The nice thing about this construction is that if someone tries taking over Lemmy, they only take over their own instance. Its users can just migrate to another instance, create an account there and continue almost as if nothing had happened. And if some instance is not moderating its users' activities properly, other instances can defederate from it. That means: They can stop showing their users content from the badly behaving instance, and also the users from that instance won't see anything held on the other instance.
I find it is a lot easier to search through communities and instances on a desktop. Mobile is clunky even through some of the apps that have been developed are pretty good.
Tbf, PieFed's categories of communities and user-customizeable and shareable Feeds greatly simplify the UX in working with communities (ironically more so on a mobile than desktop, surely an oversight that will be fixed soon).
My understanding is, if the fediverse is a web of instances (being the server/domain you signed up and have an account on), 'all' only has the context of everything on your home instance and stuff people on your instance are subscribed to.
So not just your own personal subscribe, but the entire subscribe of any user from redlemmy.com in your case.
Your all is likely different than my all. There is no true 'all' because of how communities connect and aren't contingent on each other's existence, and things like instances defederating from others.
It shouldn't be! If you subscribe to a couple communities, your "subscribed" feed on the front page should only show posts from those communities. The "all" feed will show posts from all communities that everyone on your instance (server) subscribe to. "Local" should show posts only from the communities hosted on your own instance.
As long as you can clear the single minor technical barrier to entry you're welcome here. It may be the lowest of hurdles, but Reddit threw all their hurdles away a while ago and just let anyone capable of moving forward on a flat surface in.
we need more of these people more or less, even though yes, they're dumb, that's like.. most of the population when it comes to the internet (like, only the young people even know of reddit here, much less use it..) and then there's the specific niches that are barely living in lemmy.. ah, end users..
The fediverse is big enough for everyone, and unless there's ill-intent or something damaging in a user/instance, I don't see any point with excluding them. All this would do is limit growth, and may actually be the attitude that let's it shrink into a slow death.
If you don't like a user or instance, block them and go about your business.
I don't think the usability of Lemmy is the problem, it's just users not wanting to tune out of mainstream social media. Everybody is there. Why wouldn't they? It's where everyone is. And convincing people that the massive shift in the type of content you can consume is worth it to not be consuming the content all your friends consume.
It's a catch 22. The only thing we can do is to post as much content in the fediverse as possible.
I don't think framing the general public as incompetent is helping either.
Of course you didn't make the comparison in the first place. I really hope the vast majority of the users of social media are able to Google something.
This is why federation is not the solution to centralized services. The solution is called decentralized, or P2P. I don’t even understand why ActivityPub got so popular, when it is one of the worst protocols in terms of communication. But whatever. I’m still here. Because it is still better than Reddit
Federation is decentralized. I feel like some major structural issues would exist with p2p, like would I only see posts from people actively online while I am online?
What other protocols do you think would suit the needs of a decentralized social media better?
You would still need servers to connect to. Take a look how Solana works - the same concept (with or without the blockchain) would work for social media.
Unfortunately there is no really good protocol. ActivityPub has the purpose of making things interconnected between different worlds. Like, Lemmy with Mastadon. But for that you have to find a common denominator, stripping away all the good stuff, for a feature that no one really wants.
So if there are still servers, that sounds like it's not peer to peer, right?
I am reading up on Solana a bit, but not really finding answers as to what functionally makes it a better protocol. Naturally being a blockchain most of the information is focused on trustless monetary transactions and all the scams that been involved. For what is novel I'm seeing a "leader" server that validates the order of events that as a role can be passed between theoretical similar servers of sufficient hardware? I guess I don't think of super strict chronology as a desperate need for social media. So is the benefit you're looking for in the smart contracts?
Further I would argue that it is underutilized, but the idea of seamless inter-connectivity is a super power tool of a set of social media platforms. And ultimately there is nothing that forces a particular platform to limit itself to the bounds of mastodon, the bones of activity pub are incredible versatile by my understanding. What do you see as the good stuff that is stripped away?
It just gets boring arguing with the same 12 accounts. That said some of these people putting in a full days worth of work to keep the memes and other content flowing. They the real mvps
Reddit wasn't much different. Even at the beginning there were accounts everyone recognized.
Just do what I do. Block the people that post a crazy amount of things. Those people are probably just pulling from r/all/topalltime and reposting anyways so it's not like you're losing anything of value.
That'll get you an hour or so depending on what instance you're on. Your instance decides what you see on All and Hot. That's why it is kind of important which instance you choose. If one gets too big, it controls what most people see.
According to the recent stats, there are millions of people here every day. That means you're not seeing them.
More or less yes for me too. Hot is my default, then Active. I also toggle both between All and Subscribed.
I don't come here to lose hours usually, but the above is plenty for me.
I only wish we had a good equivalent to /r/publicfreakout. I'm having to seek out protest videos elsewhere, and I refuse to go to reddit, and they don't seem as prolific as they did in 2020.
I miss public freakout too. I miss the airplane videos of people being insane as well as the protest videos. Where are you finding protest videos away from reddit?
Some get posted to bluesky, though many require you to be logged in to see them. I also keep checking woke.net every few weeks, which was great during 2020, but I think it's a zombie site now. Also youtube live, surprisingly, but you need to set your search parameters appropriately.
I have seen links to facebook and instagram, but I won't use either of them if it makes me log in. Occasionally twitch also.
Treating it seriously, I think that people are interested in growth because:
if we aren't growing, then due to attrition we are slowly dying
people seem to want a little bit more content, especially about niche topics that currently we have to keep going back to Reddit for bc that's where it is at
solving the problems inhibiting growth may make us better overall and our experiences here more enjoyable not only for new people but the existing userbase as well - so here growth is the diagnostic indicator of deeper phenomena
So it is not to feed the advertising machine and stockholder valuation, but even with the profit factor removed there are others that remain.
Lolz "gold", that takes me back. Also AL1 CAPES SETNENCES R AWLAYS TEH BESTE W4Y TOO CONMUMICATE EVERAH PIONT (and if I spelled everyanything correctly there, then I did something wrong!😋)
I already forgot what the troll said, intentionally as it is irrelevant 😉😋
I'm not one for 'food-related' discussions, but I was looking for something to spice up my day, thanks for the help. I pray your day is as bright as your...creative comments lol
197 Comments
Blaze@lemmy.zip · 117 pts · 342d
@threeduck@aussie.zone you're getting famous
Ging@anarchist.nexus · 59 pts · 342d
Fedi-famous (the best kinda currently)
Klear@quokk.au · 32 pts · 341d
Ascending among such legends like The Picard Maneuver, SatansMaggotyCumFart and Nicole, the Fediverse Chick!
Cracks_InTheWalls@sh.itjust.works · 13 pts · 341d
Leaving out our boy Stamets and Flying Squid (on hiatus IIRC) smh
Klear@quokk.au · 14 pts · 341d
I settled on three names because I would get a "you forgot about X" response no matter what =P
PartyAt15thAndSummit@lemmy.zip · 6 pts · 341d
Kolanaki... Munted Crocodile...
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 341d
Staments is on a Wierd cringe streak as of recently.
socsa@piefed.social · 3 pts · 339d
Nicole my beloved! I sent you $10 I hope you are ok!
Danquebec@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 340d
What about PugJesus and that squid guy?
RedSnt@feddit.dk · 7 pts · 341d
I was struggling so hard to find the original post, finally found it over on aussie.zone and then I saw that it was a lemmy.world post, an instance I've blocked on my local instance, feddit.dk. Stuff like that is what makes lemmy a bit confusing haha
rauls5@lemmy.zip · 87 pts · 341d
After you block a few hundred groups of anime and nonsense it’s surprisingly enjoyable.
sigmaklimgrindset@sopuli.xyz · 57 pts · 341d
HOW MANY MORE MOES DO WE NEED???
BarrelAgedBoredom@lemmy.zip · 54 pts · 341d
Who is moe and why is her midriff so popular???
SorryQuick@lemmy.ca · 17 pts · 341d
Isn’t moe the bartender in the simpsons?
foofiepie@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 340d
I have no idea but every once in a while they’re interesting.
DarkSirrush@lemmy.ca · 24 pts · 341d
At least 1 more than the fucking aigen communities, I swear I have to block a new one every week.
sigmaklimgrindset@sopuli.xyz · 16 pts · 341d
What if I told you at least 50% of the moe communities content are aigen 🥹
DarkSirrush@lemmy.ca · 12 pts · 341d
Just means I have blocked them! If it has ai in its name or only posts ai generated content, its gone (except fuck_ai, for obvious reasons)
AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works · 8 pts · 341d
IDK, lets keep going until we find out!
socsa@piefed.social · 2 pts · 339d
Six or seven?
forestbeasts@pawb.social · 1 pts · 130d
WELCOME TO MOES!!!!!
-- Frost
Hoimo@ani.social · 15 pts · 341d
Sorry about that, some people don't know ani.social exists and create comms on the wrong instances. They're supposed to show up in my local feed, but now they're in yours and you don't even appreciate them!
Tuuktuuk@anarchist.nexus · 1 pts · 186d
Comms are created on whichever instance you are using when creating them.
Cricket@lemmy.zip · 12 pts · 341d
Block the ani.social instance and it takes away 90% of the anime groups.
Steve@startrek.website · 7 pts · 341d
Still waiting for an app with curated block lists.
Blaze@lemmy.zip · 12 pts · 341d
Piefed has keyword filters, that can already help a lot with filtering
OpenStars@piefed.social · 9 pts · 341d
Also PieFed allows blocking all users across an entire instance, whereas Lemmy does not (I know that you know that, but in case it helps anyone else reading:-P).
bear@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 6 pts · 341d
Doesn't bluesky do that?
Steve@startrek.website · 1 pts · 341d
Maybe, idk
irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 341d
They do.
BeigeAgenda@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 341d
When you block that many groups how many new posts do you see? And how do you sort the posts?
I have only blocked a few groups but added a filter for posts containing trump or elon in the title as I get plenty of that crap from other sources.
Regarding the anime and furry posts, they come in waves so it's not constant or if I want to get a break from the yiffing I switch between sorting by Hot, Scaled and Top 6hrs.
other_cat@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 341d
Not who you are asking, but I block a lot of communities (almost all of them political, when I want to look at political stuff I will go to other sources.) But I also sub to a lot of communities. It is possible for me to reach the bottom of my feed, but since I mostly check it between doing other things, it takes anywhere from a few hours to most of the day. And that's with me setting it to "Top Day" as my primary filter. If I'm really bored I'll do a pass through Top Week or Top Month. If I'm STILL bored, I'll set it to Active or New Comments, but usually by then it's like, "Okay time to go do something else" and I'll try to find some other activity to do.
This is a feature, not a bug IMO.
RickyRigatoni@retrolemmy.com · 1 pts · 341d
I'm still mad at the 196 mods for causing even more 196 commies to be made for me to block.
Ging@anarchist.nexus · 57 pts · 342d
I kinda love that people are willing to deal with these various technicalities and unknowns as a worthwhile compromise as long as it's not [input any walled-garden here]
metoosalem@feddit.org · 19 pts · 342d
omniman@anarchist.nexus · 37 pts · 342d
@threeduck@aussie.zone aussie.zone is your server where your account resides
In all everything from other instances are shown while in local only your instance. If you want to find subs just select all and search or got to all in the feed bar and subscribe
Blaze@lemmy.zip · 36 pts · 342d
Don't sorry, they got answers
https://lemmy.zip/comment/21134098
RedSnt@feddit.dk · 34 pts · 341d
Lemmy isn't too hard, it's just annoying at times. Like when your instance hasn't downloaded the content of a given community and it just looks empty until you subscribe to it.
TomArrr@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 341d
Wow, so that's how it works. I signed up to a couple because they interested me and hoped in the future something would be posted, or I would, and then saw a heap of posts.
It wasn't dark magic after all. Perhaps it was psionics?
Tuuktuuk@sopuli.xyz · 5 pts · 340d
If one user of your instance is subscribed to a community on another instance, then that community is visible on that instance as well.
OddMinus1@sh.itjust.works · 31 pts · 341d
My account was shut down without notice a few weeks ago. The server providing my account shut down. All comments, saved links and history was gone.
How do you explain this to a non-technical user while reassuring that this is a great system?
lime@feddit.nu · 54 pts · 341d
"you know how when a corner shop closes in town, you're still able to go to a different store, but if safeway has driven all the other stores out of business and then shuts down you'll fucking starve to death?"
Flax_vert@feddit.uk · 6 pts · 341d
This is exactly what happens with Churches. Someone starts a "hip" new church plant. Everyone leaves the local long-established churches. Long established churches shut down. Church plant falls apart because the guy starting it doesn't know what he's doing. No Church.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 341d
I could've sworn it was because young folk were disenamored with preachers and churches who are nothing more than whited sepulchres but what could I know
lime@feddit.nu · 3 pts · 341d
what a weird take. if anything, the church is the safeway and this happened hundreds of years ago. churches are basically macdonaldses already; all franchisees of the same central entity.
Flax_vert@feddit.uk · 2 pts · 341d
What's that central entity?
lime@feddit.nu · 2 pts · 341d
in the uk? the anglican church. generally in the west? whatever lutheran, protestant, or catholic denomination is approved by the state. generally? the main church of that country, which for most of them is in a 90/10 sort of situation, with some notable exceptions, like the us, which shouldn't be counted because a) it's such a small part of the world's population and b) their view of religion is so screwed up that it doesnt compare to anything.
Flax_vert@feddit.uk · 1 pts · 341d
Anglicanism only makes up a portion of British Churches. There are also Presbyterian, Roman Catholic, Methodist and various independent congregational churches.
Only Roman Catholicism is truly centralised at a pope. Anglicanism tends to stop at the Archbishop or the Primate. Which the UK has four. The Episcopal Church of Scotland, the Church in Wales, the Church of England and the Church of Ireland which also operates in the Republic of Ireland, but the majority of adherents are in Northern Ireland.
lime@feddit.nu · 2 pts · 341d
you do understand where i'm coming from though?
socsa@piefed.social · 2 pts · 339d
Exactly as God intended.
OpenStars@piefed.social · 6 pts · 341d
A little pain in exchange for longtime gain?
Oh no, TIL that the Fediverse is "exercise" - no wonder most Westerners avoid us! 🤪
Blaze@lemmy.zip · 8 pts · 341d
"Choose an instance that provides monthly reports, including finances, such as !home@lemmy.zip"
OddMinus1@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 340d
Hypothetical response:
"Sure, that's an option, but no other social media I use requires a routinely read regarding whether I need to backup my saved items because it might shut down."
Let me just be clear that I personally don't have a problem with how lemmy runs, but I do think that difficulties and issues are heavily downplayed for potential users.
Blaze@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 340d
As someone said in another comment “you know how when a corner shop closes in town, you’re still able to go to a different store, but if safeway has driven all the other stores out of business and then shuts down you’ll fucking starve to death?”
OddMinus1@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 340d
Yep. It's a good analogy. I'm not sure that this is the kind of argument which will get sceptics aboard, but I like it.
Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 7 pts · 341d
It's crazy to me that whatever program you used to make that account on that server didn't automatically force a backup location on the same device where the account is used. On Android, some folder. On desktop, some folder. And it's crazy to me that we can't just import all of our votes, comments, and posts in that backup to another account on the same device or another.
That is a terrible system. No answers from me. Just questions
Natanael@infosec.pub · 6 pts · 341d
Doing that requires content addressing. It's what atproto is built around (bluesky's protocol) but nobody's made a proper forum variant of it yet
CognitiveBehavioralDuctTape@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 341d
socsa@piefed.social · 1 pts · 339d
Don't be vain. Cast your shit into the void and let it go.
null@lemmy.nullspace.lol · 25 pts · 341d
It is complicated, and I like a little barrier to entry.
Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 341d
It's like needing to know the password before being let into the treehouse.
tektite@slrpnk.net · 23 pts · 341d
"Fuck spez!"
"Yes, yes, come in, come in!!"
Fredselfish@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 341d
Yes me too, try PeerTube it is even more complicated.
SolarMonkey@slrpnk.net · 7 pts · 341d
Oh man it really is too. I spent the better part of a day trying to find a good instance to join to post and I couldn’t figure out the various keywords and stuff; every time I thought I found a fit it was basically the opposite of what I needed. Then I gave up and stopped even wanting to do it.
Fredselfish@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 341d
Yeah I join two neither are great. And unlike here you can't see anything outside your instance. Guess I will keep posting to YouTube until they get their shit together.
stinky@redlemmy.com · 24 pts · 342d
how do i find the users in my instance? I own the instance lol and I have no idea how to query for active users
ProvableGecko@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 341d
Shhh, embrace freedom
Bamboodpanda@lemmy.world · 21 pts · 341d
I followed reddit sync over to lemmy. I didn't know how anything works but my experience has been roughly the same as it was with Reddit. I like the discussion here more though.
Ougie@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 340d
Exactly the same. And I still don't know anything about this place after 2 years. At least here I bothered to create a profile unlike reddit where I was just browsing and never posting anything
GoddessGundy@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 341d
I actually saw an ad for Lemmy on reddit and here I am. Figuring out enough to make an account was worth it. They should do more ads.. or maybe not. We don't want too many of them coming here. Im still trying to cleanse my brain of the juice I drank.
slickgoat@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 341d
I have to say this is my experience too. I'm a boomer and whatever stumble upon here is purely coincidental.
tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip · 9 pts · 341d
https://lemmyverse.net/communities
Type a word for something you might be interested in, and if there's a community it should come up there. The main problem is still that the fediverse doesn't have enough people to support niche (or even kinda niche) interests yet
TomArrr@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 341d
3 legged dung beetle jump racing isn't niche!
OpenStars@piefed.social · 7 pts · 341d
But you are here all the same. We appreciate you!
aceshigh@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 341d
Tbf you are dependent on all because most channels are dead/very slow.
cummytummy@aussie.zone · 19 pts · 341d
I’m kinda in this boat right now too hahah
Tuuktuuk@sopuli.xyz · 3 pts · 340d
Any questions we could answer for you?
buttnugget@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 340d
I would appreciate it if you could explain how I browse instances. I am using Voyager on iOS, not sure if that’s relevant, and I was trying to search for hexbear since people keep talking about it. Nothing comes up.
Then I tried searching for lemmy.ca, but it didn’t appear as something I could go through and browse, just a few of the communities there showing up in search results. What am I doing wrong? Or misunderstanding…
Tuuktuuk@sopuli.xyz · 3 pts · 340d
Heh, I read your comment using Voyager on Android. Yeah, makes it easier for me to check how things are done on your phone that we happen to have the same telephone client app.
Probably the easiest way to grasp these things is to browse Lemmy on a full-fledged computer. Voyager can do everything the interface made by Lemmy's developers can do. (Plus, Voyager has a sensible way of reading your own private messages, while I have no idea how to return to them on the "official" web interface)
Since a phone has a cramped screen, all kinds of hocus-pocus needs to be done to fit the same features on the small screen. So, use it on a big screen of a computer and you'll get things much better. So, here goes:
Now, open a web browser, write "lemmy.world" on the address bar and then click "Login" in the upper right corner. Write "buttnugget" in the field "Email or Username" and your password in, well, wherever you feel it would fit well.
Now you're logged in in the same instance you always use with Voyager.
Press "Local" here, and you will see content only on communities hosted on lemmy.world:
And then do some more browsing around Lemmy.world, just like you'd do with your phone.
Next, write some other instance's address on your browser's URL field. I'm using Sopuli, so that's one option: Try writing sopuli.xyz as the address. You can try logging in again, bit it won't work, because you don't have a user account on sopuli.xyz.
So, go back to Sopuli's main page and click "Local". You'll see only content hosted on sopuli.xyz. Having browsed those enough, click "Communities" on the upper part of the screen, here:
...and then make sure you have "Local" chosen. Choose any community you reasonably like and click on its name. On the upper right corner, press Subscribe, here:
Clicking that button gives you a dialogue asking "Enter the instance you would like to follow this community from". Write the address of your own instance there, in your case lemmy.world. Sopuli will then tell .world that you'd like to subscribe to that community, and lemmy.world will handle the rest of the subscribing. So, even though you're browsing a completely different instance, you can still also subscribe to communities there.
But alas... Some instances use a theme that has no "Subscribe" button. Which is weird. Try for example suppo.fi . Still, there's something you can do: If you see anything interesting on any other instance, just copy the address from the URL bar, then go to your own instance (lemmy.world), click the search button here:
...and then paste the URL here and press [Search]:
You could also try feddit.org to see how the biggest German-speaking Lemmy instance looks like when you press "Local". Or lemmy.pt to see something in Portuguese :))
But now, let's get to answering the original question: I do not think Voyager has a feature for viewing the content of one single instance only, unless you create a user account there. And that's a bit cumbersome. What you can do is open the web browser on your phone, then open some instance on its browser and either click the subscribe button if it exists on that instance's theme, or copypaste the URL of the interesting thing to the search of lemmy.world, again using your phone's browser. On lemmy.world you'll need to click the hamburger menu on the upper right corner in order to find the login button:
Of course, if you want to subscribe to things with your own account, you need to be logged in :) Whatever you subscribe to with any browser will then immediately be visible on Voyager as well, as it's just another interface for the same Lemmy.
What you can, however, do on Voyager, is press "Posts" on the lower part of your screen (sometimes you need to press it several times):
And then click "All" here:
That will show you content regardless of what instance it was published on. But, as you remember from having browsed the various instances on your web browser, there's a lot of content you cannot see in that view. But, what you can indeed do is open the interesting instances on your phone's browser (or your computer's browser), browse the communities there, and subscribe to whatever you find interesting. Remember, you'll only need to do this once, because once you've found the communities you find interesting and subscribed to them, they'll be visible on Voyager just fine :) If for whatever reason you want to have user accounts on several communities at once, Voyager does support that. Once you've created a user account on some instance, you can add it to Voyager.
And to close this short textlet:
You can see a short list of the biggest instances here: https://join-lemmy.org/instances .
And a full list of all 597 lemmy instances here: https://lemmy.fediverse.observer/list .
buttnugget@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 340d
I will read this tomorrow. Holy crap. Thanks so much for taking the time!
Tuuktuuk@sopuli.xyz · 2 pts · 340d
Human's gotta do what human's gotta do :)
buttnugget@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 339d
Just finished reading it. Thanks so much!!
starman2112@sh.itjust.works · 18 pts · 340d
It's just a bunch of reddits all whispering in each others ears
Hey sh.itjust.works, tell feddit.uk to leave this comment and upvote
Sh.itjust.works: "Hey feddit.uk, starman2112@sh.itjust.works said to leave this comment and upvote"
Feddit.uk: "Hey lemmy.zip, starman2112@sh.itjust.works left this comment"
Lemmy.zip: "Hey Blaze, starman2112@sh.itjust.works left a comment"
And then all the federated instances get on the group chat and update the vote counter
Edit: I didn't even realize I was commenting on feddit.uk lmao this game of telephone is wild
GreenShimada@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 340d
Good.
The barrier to entry is a feature! All those fools on FB and Reddit are there because they're told there's no friction. It's the internet version of Wal-Mart. Anyone can find their way in.
I want to hang with people who are at least smart enough to tie their shoes sign up for a Costco membership. It's a LOW barrier to entry, and that's more than enough.
MITM0@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 340d
Seems like a sound though-process
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 340d
What? No it isn't. Any individual instance is as simple to navigate as Reddit. The federation aspect is still in an early stage of development and implementation.
Twenty years ago, Reddit was in a similar state. It took a long time and a lot of effort to improve the system enough to be easily navigated and searchable (and then more time to mangle these features in the name of monetization).
But the idea that federated instances being difficult to traverse and filter against are intentional is utterly bogus.
If you're not navigating Lemmy via VIM, you are literally a baby who shits himself and needs someone to change his diaper.
GreenShimada@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 340d
Wow. You're very much not understanding - I'm definitely not saying it's intentional. It's a take on the "It's not a bug, it's a feature" notion.
I'm saying that signing up for Lemmy not being as one-size-fits-all intuitive as Web 2.0 social media is a net benefit because anyone who tries to sign up, gets confused SO easily, and then frustrated and gives up is not the kind of person we want taking up server space on a Lemmy instance.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 340d
If you hate intuitive interfaces, you wouldn't be on a Reddit clone to begin with.
GreenShimada@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 339d
I'm not talking about me. I'm talking about people who can't manage the difference. I love Lemmy to death because it's free of the mouth breathers.
irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 17 pts · 341d
Lemmy isn't hard, it's just different
njm1314@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 341d
It's not even that different really.
starman2112@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 340d
It's literally just reddit but a bunch of them
kepix@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 341d
yeah, the ui is a total ass, but its fun
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 341d
Dude it's 2025 is that good ass or bad ass
untorquer@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 341d
Good ass. It's not perfect but it respects your boundaries, tries its damnedest, down for any fetish/kink, there when you fall asleep and when you wake up.
stray@pawb.social · 4 pts · 341d
The Reddit UI is so good though. I love browsing an album and accidentally sliding over to r/popular. Why can't Lemmy ask me to confirm my email account every time I try to look at porn?
starman2112@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 340d
App UI peaked at RIF
aeternum@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 340d
debil@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 341d
Which ui? The slrn style ncurses client that I don't know if it exists or something else?
YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today · 13 pts · 341d
I still don't fully understand what Fediverse and instance means.
xistera@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 33 pts · 341d
The Fediverse is like a country, and an instance is like a town connected to the other towns in that country. You're free to travel, visit, and interact with people in all the other towns that have their roads connected.
Each town has its own rules and culture, but they generally get along with all the other towns in the country. You can even choose to build your own town with your own rules and have a road connected to the rest.
On the other hand places like Facebook or Twitter are like huge, walled cities where you can only interact with people inside that city. They also claim the rights to all of your data to sell off.
aceshigh@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 341d
I love great analogies.
threelonmusketeers@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 341d
I might even go one level up. The Fedeverse is like a network of connected countries like the EU.
Platforms like Reddit or Twitter are isolated countries like North Korea.
I'm glad I found my way out.
xistera@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 340d
You’re right. Bringing it up to the country level instead of towns probably fits better.
Blaze@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 341d
Nice analogy, I might repost this to !fedibridge@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Natanael@infosec.pub · 16 pts · 341d
Fediverse = universe of federated instances.
Federation = many entities connected together and interoperating, etc
Instance: every individual Lemmy site with its own domain name runs an instance (a running copy of the software) on its server.
Those servers are talking to each other so users on one can talk to users on another server. That's federation.
YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today · 8 pts · 341d
Cool, kinda makes sense. Still don't understand what the federated / defederated stuff that was all the talk yesterday. But I got a slightly more nuanced understanding. Thanks homie
staph@sopuli.xyz · 6 pts · 341d
An instance is literally just someone's computer with the software running. All your stuff lives on someone's computer. Different computers can talk to one another to allow people who put their stuff on those computers to see each other's stuff (federate) or they decide not to, like cutting off a computer with a lot of batshit insane people (defederate). They're running the same software so the language is the same. Like your stuff lives on lemmy.today, I don't know where and who owns that computer, while my stuff lives on sopuli.xyz, which is a computer that is owned by some random Finn, but those computers talk to one another, so we get to talk to one another.
YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 341d
You mean like a server? I hope it's not just Joe blows laptop with a cracked screen and bulging battery.
So federated is basically "you're allowed to post shit" within this list of other server?
If that's it then thank you, it makes a lot more sense now.
staph@sopuli.xyz · 6 pts · 341d
A server isn't necessarily all that meaningfully different from Joe's laptop, it's just that Joe's laptop isn't exactly practical for running big things. My website runs on a real server, but it doesn't really act much different from a computer I have in my living room when I remotely log into it, I can access all the same files, run all the same software if I wanted to.
Federated is just jargon for "the posts and comments from here will display over there too because my computer knows yours exists and runs the same software and the software does the legwork of meshing all of that shit together with mine"
Tuuktuuk@sopuli.xyz · 2 pts · 340d
Yes, "instance" is the word used on Lemmy for what is usually called "server" elsewhere.
Flax_vert@feddit.uk · 13 pts · 341d
Yet they have an email provider.
That's just laziness/willful ignorance. The fediverse is just spicy emails
Hupf@feddit.org · 9 pts · 341d
Wonder how people manage grocery shopping in more than one shop.
chunes@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 341d
I don't understand why sometimes when I click on asklemmy at the top of the old.lemmy.world ui, sometimes it goes to regular asklemmy and sometimes it goes to asklemmy@lemmy.ml. And I don't understand why these two communities have completely different posts.
Tuuktuuk@sopuli.xyz · 10 pts · 340d
They are two completely different communities that just happen to share their names. (And one of them is full of tankies, while yours isn't)
How this works is the same with email: You can have john.smith@gmail.zz and you can have john.smith@outlook.com , but although those do have the same first name, the two addresses do not point to the same mailbox.
If a community is on your own instance (servers are called instances on Lemmy), then the part after @ is not shown. So, there is asklemmy@lemmy.world, and there is asklemmy@lemmy.ml. The latter one is luckily empty, as nothing on .ml is written without serious brainrot.
The one you see only as "asklemmy" is asklemmy@lemmy.world. There are actually this many asklemmys:
Each of the above is an independent community. Each one was founded by a different person and has different moderators, etc.
When you login to Lemmy, you go to lemmy.world and login there. I don't. I do not have a user account on lemmy.world, which is one of the instances (servers) for Lemmy. However, I do have a user account on sopuli.xyz, which is another instance. When I log in to that, I can read anything written on any instances that have federated with sopuli.xyz. We are having this conversation in a community on yet another instance:
As you can see there, this community is located on an instance called lemmy.uk.
So, I am reading this through sopuli.xyz, which has a connection to lemmy.uk. When I write something, Sopuli sends all the text to lemmy.uk which then saves it. And then your instance, lemmy.world, has a connection to lemmy.uk as well, and shows you whatever is shown on that instance. When a Lemmy-instance creates such a connection to another instance, it is called federating.
The nice thing about this construction is that if someone tries taking over Lemmy, they only take over their own instance. Its users can just migrate to another instance, create an account there and continue almost as if nothing had happened. And if some instance is not moderating its users' activities properly, other instances can defederate from it. That means: They can stop showing their users content from the badly behaving instance, and also the users from that instance won't see anything held on the other instance.
I hope this blabbering helped!
Laser@feddit.org · 9 pts · 341d
how is feddi formed?
arrow74@lemmy.zip · 8 pts · 341d
I find it is a lot easier to search through communities and instances on a desktop. Mobile is clunky even through some of the apps that have been developed are pretty good.
OpenStars@piefed.social · 5 pts · 341d
Tbf, PieFed's categories of communities and user-customizeable and shareable Feeds greatly simplify the UX in working with communities (ironically more so on a mobile than desktop, surely an oversight that will be fixed soon).
Valmond@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 341d
Would love a "subbed" category too, nether all nor local nor front-page does that ??!
kureta@lemmy.ml · 8 pts · 341d
I do have a subscribed category both in Sync for Lemmy, and the website.
Valmond@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 341d
Nice! It's just missing in Connect then I guess!
wieson@feddit.org · 3 pts · 341d
I use connect and for me "frontpage" is "subbed"
Valmond@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 341d
I didn't experience that but I haven't tried it out for quite a long time, will do! & Thanks!
maniacalmanicmania@aussie.zone · 4 pts · 341d
On Voyager there is Home which is subscribed communities. All / Home / Local.
xistera@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 340d
I love Voyager because I was a big Apollo user back on Reddit.
stinky@redlemmy.com · 6 pts · 342d
how come I can't view "all" meaning every post from every community in every instance?
"subscribed" is the exact same thing as "all"
sudo@lemmy.today · 9 pts · 342d
My understanding is, if the fediverse is a web of instances (being the server/domain you signed up and have an account on), 'all' only has the context of everything on your home instance and stuff people on your instance are subscribed to.
So not just your own personal subscribe, but the entire subscribe of any user from redlemmy.com in your case.
Your all is likely different than my all. There is no true 'all' because of how communities connect and aren't contingent on each other's existence, and things like instances defederating from others.
Jesus_666@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 342d
Which is why I don't use the small private instance a friend is running. I want All to contain stuff I don't normally look at.
Coelacanth@feddit.nu · 8 pts · 342d
If your friend signs up his instance for Lemmy-Federate it will help populate the /All feed.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 341d
That's why I always click on the recommended communities when I've got a few minutes
Cricket@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 341d
My experience is that the "subscribed" feed only shows me posts from the specific communities that I'm personally subscribed to.
Cricket@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 341d
It shouldn't be! If you subscribe to a couple communities, your "subscribed" feed on the front page should only show posts from those communities. The "all" feed will show posts from all communities that everyone on your instance (server) subscribe to. "Local" should show posts only from the communities hosted on your own instance.
Thepanda@lemmy.today · 5 pts · 341d
Bro is right
curiousaur@reddthat.com · 5 pts · 340d
All I want is keep scrolling new funny. Lemmy gives me that.
Etterra@discuss.online · 3 pts · 340d
As long as you can clear the single minor technical barrier to entry you're welcome here. It may be the lowest of hurdles, but Reddit threw all their hurdles away a while ago and just let anyone capable of moving forward on a flat surface in.
LadyButterfly@reddthat.com · 4 pts · 340d
And bots. Don't forget the bots
Etterra@discuss.online · 2 pts · 339d
Most bots meet that criteria.
CaJoasca_Baloon@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 341d
we need more of these people more or less, even though yes, they're dumb, that's like.. most of the population when it comes to the internet (like, only the young people even know of reddit here, much less use it..) and then there's the specific niches that are barely living in lemmy.. ah, end users..
EtherWhack@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 340d
The fediverse is big enough for everyone, and unless there's ill-intent or something damaging in a user/instance, I don't see any point with excluding them. All this would do is limit growth, and may actually be the attitude that let's it shrink into a slow death.
If you don't like a user or instance, block them and go about your business.
Magnum@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 341d
Paulemeister@feddit.org · 2 pts · 340d
I don't think the usability of Lemmy is the problem, it's just users not wanting to tune out of mainstream social media. Everybody is there. Why wouldn't they? It's where everyone is. And convincing people that the massive shift in the type of content you can consume is worth it to not be consuming the content all your friends consume. It's a catch 22. The only thing we can do is to post as much content in the fediverse as possible. I don't think framing the general public as incompetent is helping either. Of course you didn't make the comparison in the first place. I really hope the vast majority of the users of social media are able to Google something.
cummytummy@aussie.zone · 3 pts · 340d
My main thing right now is trying to figure out how to visit/subscribe to other communities, particularly those outside of Aussie.zone
fading_person@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 341d
joenforcer@midwest.social · 3 pts · 341d
Typical Fediverse take.
machinaignava@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 340d
tbf I also was confused as hell when I joined reddit. Don't need to know everything to participate.
MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 341d
Fuck Reddit and Fuck Spez.
gmtom@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 341d
Same
socsa@piefed.social · 1 pts · 339d
I struggle to understand how such a person can drive a car and buy groceries if they can't figure out these extremely simple concepts
underscores@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 341d
yeah pretty much
UntitledQuitting@reddthat.com · 1 pts · 341d
why am i being called out here
zr0@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 0 pts · 341d
This is why federation is not the solution to centralized services. The solution is called decentralized, or P2P. I don’t even understand why ActivityPub got so popular, when it is one of the worst protocols in terms of communication. But whatever. I’m still here. Because it is still better than Reddit
Postimo@lemmy.zip · 11 pts · 341d
Federation is decentralized. I feel like some major structural issues would exist with p2p, like would I only see posts from people actively online while I am online?
What other protocols do you think would suit the needs of a decentralized social media better?
zr0@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 0 pts · 341d
You would still need servers to connect to. Take a look how Solana works - the same concept (with or without the blockchain) would work for social media.
Unfortunately there is no really good protocol. ActivityPub has the purpose of making things interconnected between different worlds. Like, Lemmy with Mastadon. But for that you have to find a common denominator, stripping away all the good stuff, for a feature that no one really wants.
Postimo@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 341d
So if there are still servers, that sounds like it's not peer to peer, right?
I am reading up on Solana a bit, but not really finding answers as to what functionally makes it a better protocol. Naturally being a blockchain most of the information is focused on trustless monetary transactions and all the scams that been involved. For what is novel I'm seeing a "leader" server that validates the order of events that as a role can be passed between theoretical similar servers of sufficient hardware? I guess I don't think of super strict chronology as a desperate need for social media. So is the benefit you're looking for in the smart contracts?
Further I would argue that it is underutilized, but the idea of seamless inter-connectivity is a super power tool of a set of social media platforms. And ultimately there is nothing that forces a particular platform to limit itself to the bounds of mastodon, the bones of activity pub are incredible versatile by my understanding. What do you see as the good stuff that is stripped away?
EvilEdgelord@sh.itjust.works · -33 pts · 342d
It's not that is too complicated, it's the fact that there's no one here.
Blaze@lemmy.zip · 75 pts · 342d
Is this you?
CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social · 30 pts · 342d
Username checks out?
EvilEdgelord@sh.itjust.works · -10 pts · 342d
CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social · 13 pts · 341d
Cool to hear the fedi userbase has grown.
RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz · 8 pts · 341d
Lmao
EvilEdgelord@sh.itjust.works · -10 pts · 342d
FireRetardant@lemmy.world · 32 pts · 342d
It just gets boring arguing with the same 12 accounts. That said some of these people putting in a full days worth of work to keep the memes and other content flowing. They the real mvps
shittydwarf@sh.itjust.works · 33 pts · 342d
slate@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 342d
Arguing? Nobody's arguing here. And last I counted, there were DOZENS of accounts, not just 12!
toynbee@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 342d
teft@piefed.social · 4 pts · 341d
Reddit wasn't much different. Even at the beginning there were accounts everyone recognized.
Just do what I do. Block the people that post a crazy amount of things. Those people are probably just pulling from r/all/topalltime and reposting anyways so it's not like you're losing anything of value.
EvilEdgelord@sh.itjust.works · -9 pts · 342d
HikingVet@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 341d
And we don't want to.
pelespirit@sh.itjust.works · 12 pts · 342d
You need to switch up how you view it. Go to
That'll get you an hour or so depending on what instance you're on. Your instance decides what you see on All and Hot. That's why it is kind of important which instance you choose. If one gets too big, it controls what most people see.
According to the recent stats, there are millions of people here every day. That means you're not seeing them.
octopus_ink@slrpnk.net · 5 pts · 342d
More or less yes for me too. Hot is my default, then Active. I also toggle both between All and Subscribed.
I don't come here to lose hours usually, but the above is plenty for me.
I only wish we had a good equivalent to /r/publicfreakout. I'm having to seek out protest videos elsewhere, and I refuse to go to reddit, and they don't seem as prolific as they did in 2020.
pelespirit@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 342d
I miss public freakout too. I miss the airplane videos of people being insane as well as the protest videos. Where are you finding protest videos away from reddit?
octopus_ink@slrpnk.net · 2 pts · 342d
Some get posted to bluesky, though many require you to be logged in to see them. I also keep checking woke.net every few weeks, which was great during 2020, but I think it's a zombie site now. Also youtube live, surprisingly, but you need to set your search parameters appropriately.
I have seen links to facebook and instagram, but I won't use either of them if it makes me log in. Occasionally twitch also.
EvilEdgelord@sh.itjust.works · -9 pts · 342d
The population here is like a tiny slice of what it is on reddit, there's no one here
lvxferre@mander.xyz · 6 pts · 341d
OpenStars@piefed.social · 5 pts · 341d
Treating it seriously, I think that people are interested in growth because:
So it is not to feed the advertising machine and stockholder valuation, but even with the profit factor removed there are others that remain.
lvxferre@mander.xyz · 2 pts · 341d
OpenStars@piefed.social · 2 pts · 341d
Lolz "gold", that takes me back. Also AL1 CAPES SETNENCES R AWLAYS TEH BESTE W4Y TOO CONMUMICATE EVERAH PIONT (and if I spelled
everyanything correctly there, then I did something wrong!😋)I already forgot what the troll said, intentionally as it is irrelevant 😉😋
lvxferre@mander.xyz · 2 pts · 341d
Blaze@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 341d
Agreed, as you can expect.
rumschlumpel@feddit.org · 11 pts · 342d
There's certainly enough people here to get annoyed, though.
Gullible@sh.itjust.works · 9 pts · 342d
40k daily users, according to fediverse observer. Plenty for me. Too many, maybe. In fact, it is too many. Everyone leave!
AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 341d
Like 95% of that million isn't visible to us on the Threadiverse, though.
Nougat@fedia.io · 11 pts · 342d
There are dozens of us!
Ging@anarchist.nexus · 6 pts · 342d
You're not a nobody. We care for you and hope you find peace lord
EvilEdgelord@sh.itjust.works · -5 pts · 342d
catsrcool@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 342d
you probably dont even wash it dude
BoozeOrWater@feddit.uk · 3 pts · 341d
They have been banned
Ging@anarchist.nexus · 3 pts · 341d
I'm not one for 'food-related' discussions, but I was looking for something to spice up my day, thanks for the help. I pray your day is as bright as your...creative comments lol
Steve@startrek.website · 5 pts · 341d
Im here
jballs@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 341d
Me too, Steve. Me too.
Steve@startrek.website · 1 pts · 341d
Thanks, jballs.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 341d
Wait are you the Steve? The guy we've been getting all the texts and collections calls about? Because dude, you have some tax trouble.
BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 341d
Hi here, I’m dad.