He might also be doing a runaround on NY gov Hochul re: securing state funding for his NYC program agenda. It puts lots of pressure on her to play nice with him.
Demsoc = democratic socialist. They're the more progressive wing of the American Democrat party who are beginning to take power from the old neoliberals.
They basically just want a system like what Europe has instead of our current system of crony capitalism.
Afaik it's the biggest American political movement that Europe would consider to actually be on the left part of the spectrum.
New York City Mayor-elect Zohran Mamdani was pressed Friday on whether he believes President Donald Trump is a fascist.
Standing beside his host in the Oval Office, Mamdani began to answer – until the president, seated, interrupted.
“That’s OK – you can just say yes. That’s easier. It’s easier than explaining,” Trump told his guest, laughing it off as he playfully tapped Mamdani on the arm.
But the two were all smiles throughout, with Trump even siding with the soon-to-be first Muslim mayor of New York over one of his GOP allies, Rep. Elise Stefanik, who’d called Mamdani a “jihadist.”
“She’s out there campaigning and you say things sometimes in a campaign,” Trump said of Stefanik, who’s running for governor of New York. “I met with a man who’s a very rational person. I met with a man who wants to see New York be great again.”
Left and right are just a narrative to keep the lower classes busy against each other…
Everyone dislikes some stuff that are considered right ideology
Everyone likes some stuff that are considered right ideology
Everyone likes some stuff that are considered left ideology
Everyone dislikes some stuff that are considered left ideology
I’ve seen some word that Trump probably just thinks Mamdani is using “fascist” as a political pejorative - in the same way republicans call their political opponents “communists” or “radical left socialists”.
I don't know if this is some sort of joke, but that's not an agreement. That's Trump not wanting a convoluted political beating around the bush, which is what Mamdani was about to do. Such a response would feed the media, but just saying yes and Trump shrugging it off sabotages the media's obvious attempt of pitting them against each other.
He was being pragmatic honestly. A major part of his constituents are older folks who are more vulnerable. Probably didn’t want any potential voters dying off
I doubt he's that smart, he's senile, his opinion is based on whoever was nice to him last. He literally said he never heard of his policies from TV (insane admission of incompetence which we already knew about).
someone on lemmy said that's why we have a gereontocracy, they are so easy to manipulate with lobbyists and owning the tv channels they watch.
Okay, Trump suddenly acting amenable is somehow the most unsettling behavior that I can expect from him. Has a second (Third or fourth) stroke hit the white-house? Has the mounting pressure of the Epstein files finally broken him? Did three funny little ghosts visit him last night?
Stay tuned for the next episode of: "America's Future Hinges On The Whims of A Geriatric, Rapist Sociopath"
One thing you have to always remember about Donald Trump is: he's incredibly insecure. His fragile little ego is desperate for approval. It's why he constantly shitposts on a social media site he owns - so he can get that constant dopamine rush of upvotes and fawning comments and "megadittoes, Mr. President". And it's why he's desperate for the approval of people he considers strong leaders - Putin and Xi and Milei and so on. And when somebody he respects flatters him, he becomes putty in their hands.
Mamdani won decisively in New York. Mamdani proved himself a strong leader. And then, after taking everything Trump could throw at him and coming out on top, Mamdani went to Trump and basically said "I talk a lot of shit about you, you talk a lot of shit about me, but we both know that's how the game is played and not to take it personally. You do good work and I respect you. We both believe New York is the greatest city in the world so let's work together to make it great again."
And Mamdani certainly didn't have to ask for a meeting with Trump. It probably hurt him with some of his base to talk to Trump at all. So you have this strong man, this leader, this winner, who decisively proved himself the leader of the Democratic Party in New York, with incredible momentum behind him - and he goes to Trump to kiss his ring and ask for his support.
And when a strong man gives Trump the manly validation he craves, he melts like a teenage girl at a David Bowie concert.
Because you also have to remember, Donald Trump has no actual political positions. He doesn't care about anything except winning - and he loves winners. And whatever Mamdani is, he's a winner.
Actually the best explanation of Trump being so friendly with him. When I first saw that I had alarms going off in my head, legit the first thought I had was to check if Mamdani has kids (doesn't look like he has)
It is just not amenability, he fucking showed actual mental agility and maturity when deflecting questions such as "Do you still think he is a fascist" directed at Mamdani. What the actual fuck? Is this guy a robit whose programming changes depending on the situation?
MAGA for sure will have a whiplash today but Trump's change of mind is consistent with my theory that he only cares about two things:
making money
getting the Nobel Peace Prize
Everything else is just a distraction. Trump doesn't give a shit who's the mayor of NYC. He will post couple of truths about it but now the important thing is to get back to making billions on crypto and getting shitloads of bribes.
trump only cares about one thing. Feeding his ego. He’s a narcissist. It’s all that drives him. The money, the Nobel & other prizes, the ballroom, the plane, the bribes, etc. it’s all about his image.
If Mamdani boosted trump’s own personal image of himself then trump will like Mamdani. For the moment.
I was not expecting Mamdani to meet with Trump, but looking back it makes sense. Butter him up, and he'll support anyone. If Elon Musk and JD Vance could get Trump's support by glazing him, anyone can.
Trump has flip-flopped on positions repeatedly. Gun control, LGBTQ+ rights. It's all ego for him. Always has been. I guess all you need to do is sweet talk him the right way.
Literally yesterday at my local diner some dipshit MAGA was complaining that Mamdani was going to give away free food. Just hated the idea of food for the poor.
Dude doesn't like what's in the Bible he swears he read.
I've just remembered that enough people voted both AOC for House and Trump for president that she did a livestream about it asking them why.
Some people really believed that Trump would lower prices. Mamdani and AOC, being dem-soc, focus on people's basic necessities. As wild as it sounds, there's actually a link between Trump and the dem-socs. Trump has made some left-wing promises on the economy, which, of course, he has failed to keep, and associating himself with Mamdani might improve his approval on the economy if Mamdani succeeds. Maybe Trump will try to take credit for what Mamdani may succeed to do in NYC
Some people really believed that Trump would lower prices.
anyone who actually believed that after the first four years is a fucking idiot that needs to have their head examined.
was four years of chaos, lies, and millions of deaths not enough for them? maybe the two impeachments? no no, had to be the god damned insurrection on Jan 6!
being a fucking moron is no excuse for voting for that son of a bitch, and I'll never forgive anyone who voted for him more than once.
Keep in mind that the critical affordability issue as it landed in the news as we recovered from COVID and also supply chain impacts from Ukraine war. During his first term, inflation was pretty much the same as it had been since 1990. Then during Biden's term, there was 7% then a further 6.5% on top of that and then another 3.4% on top of that and then 2.9% on top of that. So there's a correlation that things are now even more rapidly unaffordable and in such cases the president inevitably gets the blame whether it makes sense or not.
His first term was pretty incompetent and corrupt, but got nowhere near as maliciously and successfully corrupt as this go around. On the matter of deaths, while the USA by the data was among the worst, almost in the 10 worst nations for per-capita death, the subjective coverage was "globally lots of people are dying", it's not Trump's fault specifically in that perception of "no one has it good".
Generally speaking, in these circumstances people are just voting against the state of the way things are with less high minded ideals. Trump lost because people hated things under COVID. Harris lost because the economic reaction to recovery was all messed up and so a change was demanded.
I share the shock that people actually went for it, but I'm not surprised that this seemingly nonsensical situation could happen.
This meeting most likely benefits Trump more than Mamdani. This gives Trump an opportunity to sweep the vile racism of the final weeks of the campaign under the rug, and lets him appear to be concerned about the working class and affordability.
I'm sure Mamdani and his team understood this but are willing to butter him up so that Trump doesn't send ICE and the national guard into NYC.
I'm very relieved that he didn't try to detain and deport Mamdani (after publicly threatening to do so), but I'm also definitely not convinced anything be said was genuine. Especially coming on the heels of vaguely threatening to execute any Democrats who oppose him.
Idk if it was a genuine attempt to ingratiate himself with the left before the Epstein files are released, or some other kind of misdirection. Either way, I think anyone opposed to fascism who can remember further back than a goldfish, should know not to let their guard down.
PROTIP: Nothing Trump says is genuine. One day he could say someone is a great person, the next day he'll say that person is nasty or whatever, and the day after that he'll say they're a great person again. Everything is transactional to him and everything he says is entirely dependent on what benefits him personally in that specific moment.
I said that I was skeptical too and thought it might have all been a performance in order to get to some other goal, and people looked at mt like I was crazy.
Sheer number of times Trump has made conflicting statements about Ukrainian war tells me what he says does not really matter at all. People who know how to operate him gets their requests met.
me too! i actually sold my maga hat and bought a soviet flag and gave away my belongings to a homeless man who needed it more than i do. i cant way to see all the wonderful things socialism will do for NYC!
Don't worry. It's for show. Mamdani showed up and kissed the ring like a good boy. Smart move. But Trump isn't dumb enough to trust this guy. And neither should we be.
Yeah I got the sense that Trump was trolling him a bit.
Yeah, I saw that shortly after that meeting. I go over there a lot to check up on the insanity. It seems that they got their marching orders, and immediately did a 180, lol.
Trump's just a cowardly keyboard warrior, full of bluster when he doesn't have to face his target, with a total lack of impulse control. So he says wild shit that any normal person would understand is completely inappropriate.
But when he is face-to-face, he goes full coward, and smiles, and laughs, and jokes, all of which he does weirdly uncomfortably, because he's an astonishingly broken psychopath, and doesn't have the slightest clue about how to behave like a normal person.
Tomorrow he'll be back to "normal," (for him) and Mamdani will go back to being a Commie.
That was one weird hell of a meeting, that it was. I especially love how some people are like "I am not at all surprised". Sure buddy in retrospect everything is always very clear.
Sure it is politics but these two people were at each other's throats for the last couple months. And Trump has insulted Sadik Khan, mayor of London, every chance he gets, for almost a decade, because Sadik Khan called him ignorant once, about ten years ago. He doesn't even stand to gain much from this, it is just petty feud. Trump is a vindictive man child. And yet somehow he pretended like he was best friends with a guy who called him a fascist about a month ago. And the way he showed mental agility to deflect questions from reporters like "Do you still think he is a fascist" to save both Mamdani and himself from a difficult spot is so unlike Trump. I would never in a decade think he can display such mental feats and maturity. And yet here we are.
Either Trump thinks he is losing too much support and shifting to center, or he thinks he stands to lose much more financially by losing control of NYC to an enemy rather than someone neutral(ish). It might be both, acting vindictively on NYC might be both a big support and financial loss for him. Or alternatively Trump isn't this strategic and Mamdani just has found Trump's levers and is manipulating him by saying the right things.
It makes more sense from Mamdani's point of view that this was a win. He did not get the vindictive wrath of Trump on NYC (which could have terrible effects on his mayoral term tbh), he did not have to make a statement about backing from any of his policies or ideologies he stated during his campaigning. He also did not really praise Trump (unlike Trump somewhat praising him) but just said they will work together to make NYC better. How this will play out in terms of ICE and increasing racism is to be seen. He will definitely lose some support because of this but he has four years to make up for this.
I think what Trump loves the most is to hold power over people. In a weird turn of events, protecting Mamdani really put his circle of sycophants in their place.
Someone called this the love-in that happens in an abusive marriage after the beatings. "Oh, baby, I do this because I love you so much. You and I are just meant to be together."
If Mamdani had walked back any of his criticisms of Trump I'd agree, but he didn't. Don't get me wrong, I feel you. We've been burned. But I don't think this is Mamdani burning us.
Really though, I think Trump is trying to do "affordability by proxy" to bring his poll numbers back.
Unfortunately for republicans if Trump came out as a gay jewish trans man who was setting MAGA supporters on fire they might still support him out of sheer spite to democrats because of like decades of media inertia.
You know, the new word is 'affordability.' Another word is just 'groceries.' It's sort of an old-fashioned word but it's very accurate. And they're coming down
Yeah.... he is a good politician if your bar is "can speak" "has fingers" "is less than 90% brain dead" and "voted most likely to be leader of a cult in his high school yearbook"
128 Comments
db2@lemmy.world · 178 pts · 274d
Did the Saudis order Trump to stop picking on the Muslim guy?
hondaguy97386@sh.itjust.works · 70 pts · 274d
Ding ding ding!
infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net · 16 pts · 273d
He might also be doing a runaround on NY gov Hochul re: securing state funding for his NYC program agenda. It puts lots of pressure on her to play nice with him.
Walk_blesseD@piefed.blahaj.zone · 159 pts · 274d
ngl, Trump falling for the new demsoc mayor of NYC's rizz was not on my 2025 bingo
Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world · 52 pts · 273d
42 year old here.
..........is it weird that I know what rizz is, but I'm only assuming I know what demsoc is based on context?
captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works · 33 pts · 273d
38 year old here:
I'm gonna give it to the zoomers for coming up with some solid slang with Rizz.
peopleproblems@lemmy.world · 37 pts · 273d
"rizz em with the tism" is my go to bio line
Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 8 pts · 273d
Zoomers did not come up with the term rizz.
RVGamer06@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 273d
That's the Alphas
tabarnaski@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 273d
50 something here, second that!
MBech@feddit.dk · 9 pts · 273d
Democratic socialist?
bryndos@fedia.io · 2 pts · 273d
44 , no idea. Is it a hairdo?
Statick@programming.dev · 10 pts · 273d
Charisma (cha"rizz"ma)...
I don't agree with it, I just know what it is.
bryndos@fedia.io · 9 pts · 273d
Thanks! And , man that is rib lan.
Ter"rib"le s"lan"g.
Landless2029@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 273d
Omfg I finally understand where it comes from.
Can I get one of these for "drip"?? Or is that already old?
Statick@programming.dev · 1 pts · 272d
I think "dripping with money" expressed via the clothes someone is wearing.
Landless2029@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 272d
Gah. Context made it seem like it was "cool" or "sexy"
atthecoast@feddit.nl · 1 pts · 273d
Probably a play on Orwell’s 1984 “IngSoc” party but with “Dem” instead
ChairmanMeow@programming.dev · 10 pts · 273d
"Demsoc" is just a shorthand for "democratic socialist". Similar to how "ancap" is "anarcho-capitalist" and "nazbol" is "national-bolshevik".
cv_octavio@piefed.ca · 1 pts · 272d
Greddan@feddit.org · 1 pts · 273d
turdcollector69@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 273d
Demsoc = democratic socialist. They're the more progressive wing of the American Democrat party who are beginning to take power from the old neoliberals.
They basically just want a system like what Europe has instead of our current system of crony capitalism.
Afaik it's the biggest American political movement that Europe would consider to actually be on the left part of the spectrum.
Star@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 273d
Yes
rayyy@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 273d
He’s reading the room and wants to position himself in front of the trend. MTG saw it. MAGA is beginning to see it.
Agent641@lemmy.world · 114 pts · 273d
From CNN:
TFW the fascist agrees he is a fascist
MTZ@lemmy.world · 47 pts · 273d
jj4211@lemmy.world · 44 pts · 273d
Well that's not what I expected...
ayyy@sh.itjust.works · 25 pts · 273d
Seriously, he was just threatening to deport him and his family like a week ago. Demented fuckhead.
DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world · 22 pts · 273d
This is the first I'm hearing of this. And, I seriously can't tell whether you're joking.
Not for the first time, recently, I ask, "WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON!"
MrSmiley@lemmy.zip · 31 pts · 273d
The ruling class wear ideology like a suit. It’s political theatre. Power only ever serves itself, right/left have no meaning at the top.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circulation_of_elites
tabarnaski@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 273d
Bingo. See 1984 for details.
Petter1@discuss.tchncs.de · 1 pts · 270d
Left and right are just a narrative to keep the lower classes busy against each other…
Everyone dislikes some stuff that are considered right ideology
Everyone likes some stuff that are considered right ideology
Everyone likes some stuff that are considered left ideology
Everyone dislikes some stuff that are considered left ideology
We need diversity
cv_octavio@piefed.ca · 3 pts · 272d
smoker@lemmy.zip · 19 pts · 273d
I’ve seen some word that Trump probably just thinks Mamdani is using “fascist” as a political pejorative - in the same way republicans call their political opponents “communists” or “radical left socialists”.
DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social · 6 pts · 272d
Or, being an actual fascist, he doesn't consider it an insult
Cruel@programming.dev · 3 pts · 273d
I don't know if this is some sort of joke, but that's not an agreement. That's Trump not wanting a convoluted political beating around the bush, which is what Mamdani was about to do. Such a response would feed the media, but just saying yes and Trump shrugging it off sabotages the media's obvious attempt of pitting them against each other.
MTZ@lemmy.world · 111 pts · 273d
ಠ_ಠ
Sunshine@piefed.ca · 34 pts · 273d
They attacked Trump when he used to be pro-vax.
Lemminary@lemmy.world · 45 pts · 273d
I still can't believe he was publicly pro-vaccines. "Take them", he said, and the public booed. I was shocked.
QuantumSparkles@sh.itjust.works · 31 pts · 273d
He was being pragmatic honestly. A major part of his constituents are older folks who are more vulnerable. Probably didn’t want any potential voters dying off
Broadfern@lemmy.world · 72 pts · 274d
The last person who said something nice to him is whoever’s side he’s on, example 5829583920.
Mamdani is awesome anyway, but it’s amusing to see.
usernameusername@sh.itjust.works · 69 pts · 273d
trump:
JasonDJ@lemmy.zip · 7 pts · 273d
That looks like ASAC Schrader and Heisenberg...
Famko@lemmy.world · 53 pts · 274d
I don't think the USA can handle the amount of aura farming that Mamdani has been doing recently.
SethTaylor@lemmy.world · 44 pts · 273d
Trump gushing over a dem-soc was not on my bingo card
GreenKnight23@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 273d
he's trying (failing) to poison pill him. "Look at us, we're good friends! if you don't trust me, don't trust him."
IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world · 34 pts · 273d
I doubt he's that smart, he's senile, his opinion is based on whoever was nice to him last. He literally said he never heard of his policies from TV (insane admission of incompetence which we already knew about).
someone on lemmy said that's why we have a gereontocracy, they are so easy to manipulate with lobbyists and owning the tv channels they watch.
tempest@lemmy.ca · 13 pts · 273d
I do wonder if people have never met a senior in cognitive decline.
If you have you start to see the signs in a lot of the old people in Congress and the white house.
Trump can't remember what he did last week.
JustTheWind@lemmy.world · 44 pts · 273d
Okay, Trump suddenly acting amenable is somehow the most unsettling behavior that I can expect from him. Has a second (Third or fourth) stroke hit the white-house? Has the mounting pressure of the Epstein files finally broken him? Did three funny little ghosts visit him last night?
Stay tuned for the next episode of: "America's Future Hinges On The Whims of A Geriatric, Rapist Sociopath"
stabby_cicada@slrpnk.net · 25 pts · 273d
One thing you have to always remember about Donald Trump is: he's incredibly insecure. His fragile little ego is desperate for approval. It's why he constantly shitposts on a social media site he owns - so he can get that constant dopamine rush of upvotes and fawning comments and "megadittoes, Mr. President". And it's why he's desperate for the approval of people he considers strong leaders - Putin and Xi and Milei and so on. And when somebody he respects flatters him, he becomes putty in their hands.
Mamdani won decisively in New York. Mamdani proved himself a strong leader. And then, after taking everything Trump could throw at him and coming out on top, Mamdani went to Trump and basically said "I talk a lot of shit about you, you talk a lot of shit about me, but we both know that's how the game is played and not to take it personally. You do good work and I respect you. We both believe New York is the greatest city in the world so let's work together to make it great again."
And Mamdani certainly didn't have to ask for a meeting with Trump. It probably hurt him with some of his base to talk to Trump at all. So you have this strong man, this leader, this winner, who decisively proved himself the leader of the Democratic Party in New York, with incredible momentum behind him - and he goes to Trump to kiss his ring and ask for his support.
And when a strong man gives Trump the manly validation he craves, he melts like a teenage girl at a David Bowie concert.
Because you also have to remember, Donald Trump has no actual political positions. He doesn't care about anything except winning - and he loves winners. And whatever Mamdani is, he's a winner.
SpaceXplorer_8042@lemmy.zip · 6 pts · 272d
Actually the best explanation of Trump being so friendly with him. When I first saw that I had alarms going off in my head, legit the first thought I had was to check if Mamdani has kids (doesn't look like he has)
WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today · 4 pts · 272d
I'm very afraid for what this means. I just hope some miracle happens, and Trump becomes a commie.
SpaceXplorer_8042@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 271d
I mean, yeah, we could all be wrong and this could just be another politician, like all the rest. But let's hope not.
Avicenna@programming.dev · 4 pts · 272d
It is just not amenability, he fucking showed actual mental agility and maturity when deflecting questions such as "Do you still think he is a fascist" directed at Mamdani. What the actual fuck? Is this guy a robit whose programming changes depending on the situation?
GuyLivingHere@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 273d
Lol at the 3 ghosts reference
ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net · 37 pts · 273d
MAGA for sure will have a whiplash today but Trump's change of mind is consistent with my theory that he only cares about two things:
Everything else is just a distraction. Trump doesn't give a shit who's the mayor of NYC. He will post couple of truths about it but now the important thing is to get back to making billions on crypto and getting shitloads of bribes.
Gonzako@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 273d
I personally like Vaushs theory that he really likes people with spine, even if they're politically opposed to him
SailorFuzz@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 273d
As long as theyre not a woman. He hates women. Especially women who oppose him.
OhStopYellingAtMe@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 273d
trump only cares about one thing. Feeding his ego. He’s a narcissist. It’s all that drives him. The money, the Nobel & other prizes, the ballroom, the plane, the bribes, etc. it’s all about his image.
If Mamdani boosted trump’s own personal image of himself then trump will like Mamdani. For the moment.
taygaloocat@leminal.space · 3 pts · 273d
Aspiring to win a Nobel Peace Prize sounds pretty admirable, at least on paper...
Jankatarch@lemmy.world · 37 pts · 273d
I can't even say Mamdani has dirt on him because what the fuck is there left to blackmail?
Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works · 12 pts · 273d
I can convince small children I'm super strong so i can only assume this was a similar situation.
Korhaka@sopuli.xyz · 4 pts · 273d
Permission to build a moat around Trump tower (to contain the problem)
KelvarCherry@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 36 pts · 273d
I was not expecting Mamdani to meet with Trump, but looking back it makes sense. Butter him up, and he'll support anyone. If Elon Musk and JD Vance could get Trump's support by glazing him, anyone can.
Trump has flip-flopped on positions repeatedly. Gun control, LGBTQ+ rights. It's all ego for him. Always has been. I guess all you need to do is sweet talk him the right way.
eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 34 pts · 272d
Literally yesterday at my local diner some dipshit MAGA was complaining that Mamdani was going to give away free food. Just hated the idea of food for the poor.
Dude doesn't like what's in the Bible he swears he read.
Fedizen@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 272d
Matthew 25:41-46 seems explicitly targeted at modern republicans:
silver@das-eck.haus · 33 pts · 273d
Wtf did I miss
BurgerBaron@piefed.social · 64 pts · 273d
The Mad King liked Mamdani's rizz in the moment.
Meanwhile the Democrats have almost 90 dems sign some dumb thing condemning Socialism.
Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world · 64 pts · 273d
Trump gave a blowjob to Mamdani.
........and we live in such a bizzare timeline that you innitially don't know if I'm joking.
tpyo@lemmy.world · 27 pts · 273d
I'm not against bros blowing bros,
But if that were to happen I'm pretty sure it would not be consensual on Mamdani's part
Cuomo? 100% wouldn't have given a 2nd thought and assumed it's true
SethTaylor@lemmy.world · 30 pts · 273d
I've just remembered that enough people voted both AOC for House and Trump for president that she did a livestream about it asking them why.
Some people really believed that Trump would lower prices. Mamdani and AOC, being dem-soc, focus on people's basic necessities. As wild as it sounds, there's actually a link between Trump and the dem-socs. Trump has made some left-wing promises on the economy, which, of course, he has failed to keep, and associating himself with Mamdani might improve his approval on the economy if Mamdani succeeds. Maybe Trump will try to take credit for what Mamdani may succeed to do in NYC
GreenKnight23@lemmy.world · 23 pts · 273d
anyone who actually believed that after the first four years is a fucking idiot that needs to have their head examined.
was four years of chaos, lies, and millions of deaths not enough for them? maybe the two impeachments? no no, had to be the god damned insurrection on Jan 6!
being a fucking moron is no excuse for voting for that son of a bitch, and I'll never forgive anyone who voted for him more than once.
Tryenjer@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 273d
There's really a lot of idiots out there.
jj4211@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 273d
Keep in mind that the critical affordability issue as it landed in the news as we recovered from COVID and also supply chain impacts from Ukraine war. During his first term, inflation was pretty much the same as it had been since 1990. Then during Biden's term, there was 7% then a further 6.5% on top of that and then another 3.4% on top of that and then 2.9% on top of that. So there's a correlation that things are now even more rapidly unaffordable and in such cases the president inevitably gets the blame whether it makes sense or not.
His first term was pretty incompetent and corrupt, but got nowhere near as maliciously and successfully corrupt as this go around. On the matter of deaths, while the USA by the data was among the worst, almost in the 10 worst nations for per-capita death, the subjective coverage was "globally lots of people are dying", it's not Trump's fault specifically in that perception of "no one has it good".
Generally speaking, in these circumstances people are just voting against the state of the way things are with less high minded ideals. Trump lost because people hated things under COVID. Harris lost because the economic reaction to recovery was all messed up and so a change was demanded.
I share the shock that people actually went for it, but I'm not surprised that this seemingly nonsensical situation could happen.
OpenPassageways@lemmy.zip · 28 pts · 273d
This meeting most likely benefits Trump more than Mamdani. This gives Trump an opportunity to sweep the vile racism of the final weeks of the campaign under the rug, and lets him appear to be concerned about the working class and affordability.
I'm sure Mamdani and his team understood this but are willing to butter him up so that Trump doesn't send ICE and the national guard into NYC.
sundray@lemmus.org · 28 pts · 274d
In love? Oh dear. Trump didn't try to... you know...
db2@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 273d
Trump calls him Daddy Mamdani
I'm sorry
AcidiclyBasicGlitch@sh.itjust.works · 26 pts · 273d
I'm very relieved that he didn't try to detain and deport Mamdani (after publicly threatening to do so), but I'm also definitely not convinced anything be said was genuine. Especially coming on the heels of vaguely threatening to execute any Democrats who oppose him.
Idk if it was a genuine attempt to ingratiate himself with the left before the Epstein files are released, or some other kind of misdirection. Either way, I think anyone opposed to fascism who can remember further back than a goldfish, should know not to let their guard down.
SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca · 29 pts · 273d
PROTIP: Nothing Trump says is genuine. One day he could say someone is a great person, the next day he'll say that person is nasty or whatever, and the day after that he'll say they're a great person again. Everything is transactional to him and everything he says is entirely dependent on what benefits him personally in that specific moment.
MTZ@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 273d
I said that I was skeptical too and thought it might have all been a performance in order to get to some other goal, and people looked at mt like I was crazy.
Avicenna@programming.dev · 1 pts · 272d
Sheer number of times Trump has made conflicting statements about Ukrainian war tells me what he says does not really matter at all. People who know how to operate him gets their requests met.
Ibaudia@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 273d
I mean more or less. This is one of the top posts on r/conservative rn
sunbytes@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 273d
There's some absolute charmers on there.
pelespirit@sh.itjust.works · 13 pts · 273d
One of the comments and below that, the reply:
SippyCup@lemmy.ml · 10 pts · 273d
My God, those edits. Lmao
MTZ@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 273d
Yeah, I saw that shortly after that meeting. I go over there a lot to check up on the insanity. It seems that they got their marching orders, and immediately did a 180, lol.
Fedizen@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 273d
It's very "We were always at war with eurasia" the way they just gobble up the propaganda is so orwellian.
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 19 pts · 273d
Trump's just a cowardly keyboard warrior, full of bluster when he doesn't have to face his target, with a total lack of impulse control. So he says wild shit that any normal person would understand is completely inappropriate.
But when he is face-to-face, he goes full coward, and smiles, and laughs, and jokes, all of which he does weirdly uncomfortably, because he's an astonishingly broken psychopath, and doesn't have the slightest clue about how to behave like a normal person.
Tomorrow he'll be back to "normal," (for him) and Mamdani will go back to being a Commie.
Duamerthrax@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 273d
He was like that back with The Apprentice. The scenes with him telling the contestant off had them in different rooms.
guynamedzero@piefed.zeromedia.vip · 1 pts · 273d
Don’t insult him like that, he’s a demsoc, not a communist
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 273d
I understand completely, but Trump has repeatedly called him the "Commie Mayor of New York."
Avicenna@programming.dev · 13 pts · 272d
That was one weird hell of a meeting, that it was. I especially love how some people are like "I am not at all surprised". Sure buddy in retrospect everything is always very clear.
Sure it is politics but these two people were at each other's throats for the last couple months. And Trump has insulted Sadik Khan, mayor of London, every chance he gets, for almost a decade, because Sadik Khan called him ignorant once, about ten years ago. He doesn't even stand to gain much from this, it is just petty feud. Trump is a vindictive man child. And yet somehow he pretended like he was best friends with a guy who called him a fascist about a month ago. And the way he showed mental agility to deflect questions from reporters like "Do you still think he is a fascist" to save both Mamdani and himself from a difficult spot is so unlike Trump. I would never in a decade think he can display such mental feats and maturity. And yet here we are.
Either Trump thinks he is losing too much support and shifting to center, or he thinks he stands to lose much more financially by losing control of NYC to an enemy rather than someone neutral(ish). It might be both, acting vindictively on NYC might be both a big support and financial loss for him. Or alternatively Trump isn't this strategic and Mamdani just has found Trump's levers and is manipulating him by saying the right things.
It makes more sense from Mamdani's point of view that this was a win. He did not get the vindictive wrath of Trump on NYC (which could have terrible effects on his mayoral term tbh), he did not have to make a statement about backing from any of his policies or ideologies he stated during his campaigning. He also did not really praise Trump (unlike Trump somewhat praising him) but just said they will work together to make NYC better. How this will play out in terms of ICE and increasing racism is to be seen. He will definitely lose some support because of this but he has four years to make up for this.
DarkAri@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 272d
It's pro wrestling.
mirshafie@europe.pub · 3 pts · 272d
I think what Trump loves the most is to hold power over people. In a weird turn of events, protecting Mamdani really put his circle of sycophants in their place.
ikidd@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 272d
Someone called this the love-in that happens in an abusive marriage after the beatings. "Oh, baby, I do this because I love you so much. You and I are just meant to be together."
Aeri@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 273d
What the hell is HAPPENING
Bruhh@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 273d
My only fear is that we get another Fetterman incident
Macchi_the_Slime@piefed.blahaj.zone · 14 pts · 273d
If Mamdani had walked back any of his criticisms of Trump I'd agree, but he didn't. Don't get me wrong, I feel you. We've been burned. But I don't think this is Mamdani burning us.
cv_octavio@piefed.ca · 10 pts · 272d
icelimit@lemmy.ml · 10 pts · 273d
Ootl, not that I want to be itl, what's the news this time?
Baguette@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 13 pts · 273d
Trump praises Mamdani after White House meeting: "I want him to do a great job"
Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 273d
Canada is building a wall and making trump pay for it, after so many Americans became illegal foreigners, trying to escape nazi amerikkka.
icelimit@lemmy.ml · 9 pts · 273d
What does that have to do with mamdani?
Jhuskindle@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 273d
Broken clock is right twice a day
Agent641@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 273d
The broken clock just got slathered up with a giant pad of butter. Mamdami probably agreed to rename a major boulevard in Manhattan after him.
Isolde@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 273d
Hell yeah, an Alice in wonderland reference? Very rare👌🏽
DarkSideOfTheMoon@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 273d
Would be a big plot twist if Mamdani is aligned with Saudis and he start to help Trump…
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 273d
What's he going to do? Rebuild the twin towers so the Saudis can knock them back down again?
sheogorath@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 272d
Kinda hard to imagine this since he's Shia and Saudis has a hate boner against the Shiites.
Jankatarch@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 272d
Right cause all Muslims are the same exact person. /s
Formfiller@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 273d
I’m waiting for them to all start sucking eachothers dicks and taking pictures of it ….see no big deal we all do it fuher
MTZ@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 273d
Give them about 30 more seconds
Cruel@programming.dev · 4 pts · 273d
Trump meets with Putin and is nice to him: "Trump is Putin's bitch, look at him!"
Mamdani meets with Trump and stands at his desk like an obedient puppy: "Wow, our hero really charmed him with his immense rizz! Trump's a coward!"
Politics is so braindead. 😩
RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 273d
Whatever trump said today will be the opposite tomorrow or the next. Smiles today, threaten to hang Mamdani by next Wednesday.
udc@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 272d
Maybe they cut some kind of a deal?
Fedizen@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 272d
Trump sucked him off. He's the new bubba
Really though, I think Trump is trying to do "affordability by proxy" to bring his poll numbers back.
Unfortunately for republicans if Trump came out as a gay jewish trans man who was setting MAGA supporters on fire they might still support him out of sheer spite to democrats because of like decades of media inertia.
ronl2k@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 273d
Why do all those MAGAs in the pic look like Andrew Tate?
homes@piefed.world · 1 pts · 57d
CRY! CRY! CRY!
SPREAD IT! SPREAD IT FAR AND WIDE!
vivalapivo@lemmy.today · -7 pts · 273d
They're two of the kind: radical populists who do not have any internal beliefs
GuyLivingHere@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 273d
Lol ok there
Dingleberrydipndots@lemmy.world · -45 pts · 273d
BC_viper@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 273d
Quite the cum stain aren't you?
Surp@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 273d
Quite!
funkyfarmington@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 273d
Quiet, piggy.
zbyte64@awful.systems · 6 pts · 273d
How exactly was it brilliant of him to say Mamdani can call him a fascist?
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 272d
11D chess. You actually win if your oppenent queens their pawn and spends a turn dabbing on you.
AdrianTheFrog@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 273d
such an eloquent speaker
Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz · 1 pts · 272d
"This food has never been touched by human hands."
-Trump, talking about McDonald's.
MTZ@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 272d
Bgugi@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 273d
person, woman, man, camera, tv
Almacca@aussie.zone · 2 pts · 273d
You're funny.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 272d
Heavy debate happening on the short bus of politics
Mr_Dr_Oink@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 273d
Yeah.... he is a good politician if your bar is "can speak" "has fingers" "is less than 90% brain dead" and "voted most likely to be leader of a cult in his high school yearbook"