It's literally science

Still better than AI slop.

This had me actually giggle out loud.

Looks Like someone needs a Paleo Chair 😁

(350-450€)

🖥️🦐

Who let you in my house?

Lying.

I actually do this sometimes, feels good

Mouse Quest player core

When did you take this picture of me??

Daaaaaaad stop

I read coitus as combat. Makes sense I suppose

But then you won't have a middle one to look straight ahead. Go for 5 instead

Well this and a shorter work day/week so one doesn't have to chose between a social life, a healthy body, home upkeep, child care, and self care. Maybe sprinkle in some accessible and free healthcare both physical and mental. Idk, wouldn't be the first time i was wrong about something.

Exactly right. Just a bit of exercise every week is enough to get stronger muscles and no pain in back or anywhere else. At least that worked for me, and its easy to do.

Peoples bodies are rarely used for physical work if you work in some sitting down position all day, and it means you lose all muscles with time.

That sounds like a lot of work ...

Are you sure there aren't easy solutions that only involve spending money and not effort? Maybe a pill or expensive chair?

Nah, OP is just being elitist trying to justify those purchases. (not that they're bad ideas, just unnecessary)

The real answer is posture and lack of stretching and exercize. Unless you have an underlying issue like scoliosis, stretching and exercize fix 90% of the aches and pains young people whine about with "getting old" in their 30's.

I popped my two discs around L5. So far I'm trying to avoid surgery, pain is mostly under control at the moment but I've had extreme ups and downs for the last few months so...

Thank you for the exercise advice, I'll look them up and compare with what I'm currently doing. I do the McGill big 3 every day plus some other exercises and stretches I learned during physical therapy but I don't know the names of those.

I don't know exactly what these are based on your descriptions, but I went through physical therapy and was given some stretches/exercises that do for sure help some. It isn't a "cure", but as you said, if you have back pain and can do them, you should be trying to.

Ty for this

I suffered a slipped L5-S1 disc last Nov - suffering symptoms of pain and numbness in my left upper calf and outer side of my left foot. I did an MRI in Dec and there was nerve compression found and a degenerating L5-S1 disc.

Eventually the pain went away and the numbness became much less obvious but the doctors I saw recommended microdisectomy to avoid further potential damage to the nerve.

Immediately after the op (I did it 20th Feb) I did feel better but one or two days later the numbness returned stronger than before the op. Now on medication to try and see if the inflammation is temporary or something long term. Sigh

About the golf meetings:

I made up a story around it. Basically, golf is a metaphor for business (and sex, now that i think about it). You gotta get the ball (yourself) into the hole (your target). Sometimes, you can't do it in one step, so you require multiple steps to approach your goal. In any case, you take big steps in the beginning, and then as you get closer you need to become more gentle and delicate to not miss the perfect spot.

Seems like Workrave is also available on Linux. Did you not know that or did you recommend RSIBreak for Linux because you think it's better?

You can spice them up with alternating leg raises or do a superman or bird dog. There are also loads of other exercises that work. The best exercise isn't the most effective one, it's the one you actually do consistently

Pushups are also great, also helps with breasts that get easily fucked with your shoulders laying forwards while on computer long days. That shit got me so bad I had to take sick leave for a week due to shoulder pain

Deadlifts would like a word!

Also they are more fun, you feel like a super hero that can lift a house, and it's a compound lift!

I did planking for about a thousand years (or so it felt) and it didn't really help at all. What did help massively was dumbbell swings! In just a couple of days my back pain was like 90% gone, totally gone today.

I'm quite tall, so YMMV.

They've come down in price and there are actually better options out there now.

Agree. You can also find them second hand at pretty decent prices

Used steel case leap. Doesn't look pretty or have RGB, or a built in mini fridge or whatever, but it works and it costs like 100-200usd.

Hundreds of upvotes on a shitpost can't be wrong!

Degenerative disc disorder bad mouse

Or lupus.

Did you meet Vlad?

i find trackballs fascinating because i really like it but everybody else in the family fucking hate it as if kicked the dog or something. on the brighter side of things - everybody gave up on snooping around on my desktop

I remember when I was a teenager and those things were all the rage (mid 90s). I wanted one just because they were alternative.

Fast forward a whole bunch of years and I'm pilfering the supply closet at work, and happen to stumble upon a slightly dusty, but functional and genuine OG Microsoft split keyboard. So of course I just had to.

Let's just say that keyboard is back collecting dust in that exact same spot. The ergos of it were okish, like your hand naturally rests like that. But even just that little difference of layout messed my muscle memory up way too much. And you are right, hitting some of the function keys was too alien.

Kinesis are king. But if you want a cheaper option, Microsoft Sculpt Ergonomic or whatever it's called is quite good, even though it's not properly split. The halves are angled so that your wrists wouldn't be crooked.

And when I inevitably break the key mechanism trying to clean inside, I unpack the old reliable MS Natural 4000 and clack away again.

I love my glove80 but it's not without a learning curve

Kinesis Freestyle2. I've had mine since COVID and still love it. They have both Mac and PC key layouts, including function keys.

Edit: I'll add it's an "at home" keyboard for me. If you need to travel with it frequently, it's not super mobile.

You hurt your back carrying your standing desk up ten floors.

With a standing desk, you have to be very careful in not being stationary. Standing in the same position for an hour is not great for your back at all, but the goal of a standing desk is to constantly move a little bit and relax your back muscles. Ideally, you want some sort of standing desk pad that forces you to subconsciously constantly move.

I have a Lily58 that I love. I put mine together myself (save for soldering. The place I found mine offered a service to do that before shipping) so it’s a bit different looking than this one shown in their preview, but it’s the same layout.

https://keebd.com/en-us/products/lily58-pro-keyboard-kit

I love my Moonlander keyboard at home: https://www.zsa.io/moonlander

And I built an Iris for my desk at work: https://keeb.io/products/iris-se-kit

Svalboard Lightly

https://svalboard.com/

!ergomechkeyboards@lemmy.world

There’s several out there depending on what you want. I don’t mess with anything like ortholinear or Ergodox because the stagger is weird. So in the “regular keyboard but split” space, if you don’t want to build your own, there’s the cloud9, the dygma raise 2, and even such like the Feker Alice looks cool too - it’s not mechanically split but does give the split curve feel like the MS Ergo.

Stretch. If you don't know how, look up yoga routines, and make sure not to force yourself into any positions you cannot easily reach. Until you're more experienced with pushing against your body's limits, it's pretty easy to hurt yourself pushing up against limits.

Then you stop using them and the back hurts even more.

It's both.

Same actually. Sometimes in the legs too. But I did start exercising a bit to improve my neck and shoulders.

It allows two people to have better posture when they're both hacking into the mainframe on the same keyboard.

It allows you to keep your arms shoulder-width apart which makes it easier to avoid hunching.

Same as the ergonomic mouse. Natural poses are less stressful.

Which means palms facing each other instead of facing down in one case, and hands should-wide apart with relaxed shoulders instead hunching in the other.

Caveat: Most people nowadays never learned to properly type but are self-taught. Which makes using split keyboards more challenging.

Even just a keyboard with left and right halves angled toward the respective arms would help. Because with a typical keyboard, the arms come at it at an angle, and then the wrists are crooked to have the fingers on the straight key rows. An angled or split keyboard allows to keep the wrists straight.