Donald Trump erupted at the United Kingdom Tuesday morning over its refusal to join the United States in its war against Iran, issuing the European nation a notice that the United States would no longer be offering it “help.”
“All of those countries that can’t get jet fuel because of the Strait of Hormuz, like the United Kingdom, which refused to get involved in the decapitation of Iran, I have a suggestion for you: Number 1, buy from the U.S., we have plenty, and Number 2, build up some delayed courage, go to the Strait, and just TAKE IT,” Trump wrote on his social media platform Truth Social.
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CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de · 218 pts · 145d
Meanwhile the UK is hosting USA bombers. Grow a pair - kick them out and close airspace until they show some gratitude.
Not if some of them can help it.
WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world · 84 pts · 145d
As with most developed "democracies", the UK's political class are too busy cashing the cheques of their corporate overlords to display any actual morals or virtue. They are bottom-feeders who only know how to bottom-feed.
e.g. opposing genocide is terrorism!
timewarp@lemmy.world · 28 pts · 145d
Grow a pair. Confiscate their bombers since they're being used for genocide and land theft.
Tarambor@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 145d
What they going to do, remove the UK from the continent?
Soulg@ani.social · 3 pts · 144d
I mean technically it's an island next to the continent lol
medicsofanarchy@lemmy.world · 198 pts · 145d
I'm beginning to think the hardest job in the entire world is Secret Service Agent. I mean, c'mon, millions of lives are at risk, you're armed, and he's right there. Instant hero. /s
Edit: forgot /s. Obviously.
DagwoodIII@piefed.social · 69 pts · 145d
True story.
My buddy used to work for NYC EMS. One day when Clinton was President his ambulance was assigned to an event. He and his partner were chatting with the police when some Secret Service agents walk by. The partner starts ranting about how much he hates the Secret Service.
One of the police asks him what the Secret Service did that was so bad?
"This bastards say they'll jump on a grenade for the President, but not one of them jumped on Monica! God damn it, I'm willing to take a blowjob for my country!"
Kirp123@lemmy.world · 33 pts · 145d
Because it went great for the Roman Empire when the Praetorian Guard were the ones choosing the Emperor. You don't really want to open that door.
3abas@lemmy.world · 36 pts · 145d
There's a difference between a military coup and a rogue secret service agent killing the fuck and turning himself in.
He'd sacrifice his life and be arrested and tried, he'd have Luigi level fanfare (though Luigi didn't do it, obviously) and a clear conscious to help him sleep better at night in prison.
Being not a military coup, it might actually trigger the violent stage of the arguably ongoing civil war, Vance declares martial law and his children and top supporters start calling for the execution of everyone who ever condemned him as retribution.
The current collapse of the US empire is fast, but it sure as fuck can accelerate. People who think Trump dying solves all problems are heavily over indexing on him as the singular bad guy, he's just a loud symptom of a nasty disease.
chiliedogg@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 145d
There's a lot of rot, but they've been depending on a cluster of personality. Those often collapse when the personality dies without a sucessor with popular support, which requires the cult leader to groom the public to their sucessor.
The thing with Trump is he has too much ego for that, and Vance doesn't have the loyalty of the MAGA militant.
3abas@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 145d
Right, which is why they would kick it up a 100 noches. Once he's gone, they'll use everything in their power to remain in power, they won't just go away silently.
Vance doesn't have the loyalty, which is why Trump's kids will rile them up on the idea of revenge, they won't be fighting for cancer, they'll be fighting for Trump "alongside" Vance.
Democrats will condemn the violence of the assassin, they'll call for unity and give long eulogies for Trump, they'll say it's time to unite and denounce violence. Slowly, Vance will become the new figure head, or be replaced through a coup if unable, but the power won't change. The coup won't come from opposition, it'll come from within.
History gives us plenty of cases where killing the strongman did not end the system. Caesar’s murder helped trigger civil war and an “avenge the leader” politics. https://www.history.com/articles/julius-caesar-assassination-fall-roman-republic
Park Chung-hee’s assassination opened a succession crisis that Chun Doo-hwan used for an internal coup under martial law. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1979_South_Korean_coup_d%27%C3%A9tat
Trujillo’s killing did not kill the machine, his family and loyalists tried to preserve it amid chaos. Indira Gandhi’s assassination becme a pretext for mass revenge on a broader population. https://history.state.gov/historicaldocuments/frus1958-60v05mSupp/dr_d21
So yes, cult regimes are vulnerable when the central personality dies, but that vulnerability often shows up first as repression, martyrdom, and a fight inside the ruling group, not a clean collapse.
watson387@sopuli.xyz · 6 pts · 145d
I'd expect this will escalate quickly once Vance takes power. He doesn't have the car salesman personality Trump has, and I don't think he'll maintain the MAGA following but Peter Thiel put him there for a reason. Vance will have to speed it up.
guy@piefed.social · 5 pts · 145d
The US has tried assassination of it's presidents twice already. No matter the lunatic in charge murdering democratically elected leaders is not the way. There are mechanisms to pursue Trump that should be used.
TotallynotJessica@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 8 pts · 145d
So it wouldn't have been right to kill Hitler even though he took dictatorial control? It can easily be argued that once a democratically elected leader moves to nullify elections, purges non political government positions, and starts to ignore the authority of other elected positions, that their contract as a democratic leader is null and void. We're already there with Trump on all accounts. Him starting a war without congressional approval should make it obvious that he will take every shred of power the other branches have left given enough time. His position isn't the only one we vote on, but he will ensure that no other result matters.
Besides, he plans to stay in office until he dies, and if he corrupts the military with enough loyalists by 2028, he'll succeed. The only mechanism to remove him will be him dying and hoping his replacements are too weak to maintain the grift. I don't say this as a call to action, but a statement of fact.
guy@piefed.social · 1 pts · 144d
Oh feel free to kill Trump if he becomes a dictator like Hitler. Or you know, persecute him before that.
TotallynotJessica@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 144d
bruh, genuinely where have you been? There is a gestapo loyal to Trump who round up his culture war scapegoats. There are concentration camps that hold immigrants in perpetuity. I could literally get sent to one of those camps for being trans if that gestapo ever carded me, something they could easily do thanks to racial profiling. If that did happen, not only would I be denied my hormones while in captivity, I could be medically tortured by psychoactive drugs in the hope that it causes lasting psychological damage.
I'm sorry, but Trump is already a Hitler like dictator, and you're ignorant beyond belief if you truly don't realize that.
guy@piefed.social · 1 pts · 144d
I'm aware lol The thing is that most democratic institutions still hold and there's opposition that might provoke a change in Congress. It's not the same situation
chiliedogg@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 145d
I mean... the first instance of that was replacing Caligula with Claudius. It just kinda went south after that.
Gsus4@mander.xyz · 5 pts · 145d
Did Claudius also fuck couches?
chiliedogg@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 145d
Claudius wasn't 2nd in command. He was way down the list.
And the first thing he did as emperor was execute some of the Praetorians for being overzealous when cleaning house.
harrys_balzac@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 13 pts · 145d
The problem is that the SS is staffed with people who think Trump is the good guy. Lots and lots of "patriotic" Mormons.
SapphironZA@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 145d
I used to think that they are defending the office, rather than the individual. And that is the honorable thing to do regardless of the person. But when you see them assisting that person to stage an assasination, I realised they are in the cult too.
TwodogsFighting@lemdro.id · 3 pts · 145d
The SS? Clue might be in the name, there.
Soulg@ani.social · 1 pts · 144d
Yes the agency created to fight money counterfeiting before Nazis existed, but same initials scary!
TwodogsFighting@lemdro.id · 2 pts · 144d
If you're still working for Trump at this point, what else are you but nazis?
marcos@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 145d
Turn the US into an authoritarian empire, and you risk turning the Praetorians into something similar to the Roman ones...
Jhex@lemmy.world · 97 pts · 145d
This rant is extra ignorant with a cherry on top.
The UK already gets most of its oil from the US and Norway (sauce)
The Orange Child Rapist apparently did not know oil is a global commodity and therefore all/most oil cost the same around the world. I guess he figured if the USA did not get oil from Iran, US Oil was not going up in price?
What an embarrassment of a country to have this pustule of a person as president (elected twice!)
corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca · 22 pts · 145d
The art of the deal guy didn't understand opportunism in pricing? If they're charging more, we can charge more.
immutable@lemmy.zip · 12 pts · 145d
Supreme leader trump hs declared that to protect capitalism domestic oil producers are restricted from selling on the global market.
Patriots must sell oil only to the homeland and forego the global markets.
CPAC has burst into chants of USA USA and free market analysts on Fox News are calling this an obvious win.
Comrades, trump has said if any privately owned oil fields produce oil for export he may have to seize the means of production. Truly a new golden age is upon us.
WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 145d
If the USA isn't going to participate in the global oil market then there's no reason for the global oil market to use US currency.
BananaTrifleViolin@piefed.world · 90 pts · 145d
He's so incredibly stupid; honestly the biggest moron I've ever seen in any government.
He started this war, he didn't think it through - it was well known attacking Iran would lead to them closing the strait of hormuz, and it would be extremely difficult to open it without a ground invasion. Israel has wanted to go after Iran for decades but every US president had common sense and said no. Trump has done what no President has ever done. The US allies are not stupid enough to be drawn into the this pointless war as it's unwinnable.
Now this so-called "business man" doesn't even know how global markets work. You remove 20% of the oil supply, then prices go up because demand goes up - you still have 100% of demand. The US isn't protected from that as a net shale oil/gas exporter.
First: everyone in the world is bidding for oil and gas supplies so it goes to the highest bidder; thats how a market works - everyone ends up paying more including americans. Second: the US is a net exporter but it also imports a lot of gas and oil. It's exports are driven by Liquid Natural Gas. But it imports Crude Oil, because it can't produce enough of that for domestic demand. Third: As energy prices go up, you get "demand destruction". In other words, some activities are no longer economical as the price of oil and gas is too high and obliterates profits. That means the global economy goes into decline - a recession. And the US is in no way insulated from that - it is totally integrated into the global economy.
Trump has fucked over the US, allies like the UK, Canada and EU and the rest of the world. This isn't his allies' war, and they're not getting involved - it's politically toxic and it'd just escalate this mess. Trump can get frustrated at the mess he's made and lash out as much as he wants, but he can't get away from this mess. He has two choices and both are shit: Invade Iran with troops or admit defeat and cave into the Iran's demands. I suspect he will cave in and try and spin this as a "victory".
Photonic@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 145d
Small correction: US consumers and businesses will be hit. The US oil & methane gas industry and their billionaires will pump out as much as they possibly can and sell to the highest bidder at ridiculous prices.
And there as many, many times before, we have one of the biggest reasons for this war.
Is it stupid? Yes it’s still stupid. But the better question is: is it evil? Even more so than you already thought.
FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 145d
Sounds exactly like what his admin did with PPE during COVID.
Except now the whole planet is stuck essentially Ebaying for essentials or paying Iran's tolls.
jason@discuss.online · 7 pts · 145d
Yup. Same thing happened when Russia invaded Ukraine. The US got a negligible amount of oil from Russia and prices still spiked. Gas and oil are global commodities.
manxu@piefed.social · 72 pts · 145d
Funny to think that the UK thought one of the advantages of Brexit was that the USA and the UK could now finally get as close as they wanted without the interference of the EU.
explodicle@sh.itjust.works · 50 pts · 145d
There's plenty of leopards for everyone!
TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 60 pts · 145d
All friendships burned, all choices burning themselves, digging their own grave deeper and deeper. Total collapse is inevitable.
Remember all those Hollywood productions about post apocalypse worlds, only showing the US? I always wondered how the rest of the world would be. I guess just normal, it's just the US being a post apocalypse hell hole.
And Trump did all of that just to try to distract everyone from him being a pedo sex offender buddy of Epstein.
hietsu@sopuli.xyz · 10 pts · 145d
Well that, and the footage they got of him decades ago in Moscow when he tried to get his businesses up over there. Golden showers and whatnot they say. By now it should be obvious to everyone what his assignment is: Final blow in the divide and conquer scheme that has been running in US since the soviet days. Social media and of course China joining the cause behind the curtains really gave this campaign a big boost.
olympicyes@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 145d
Sounds like AfD has their marching orders from Putin as well. Trump has created a zeitgeist that would benefit the German far right and make in roads to dismantling NATO in short order.
100_kg_90_de_belin@feddit.it · 4 pts · 144d
He is doing that because there is profit to be made.
Digit@lemmy.wtf · 2 pts · 144d
Just doing his job.
He's their boy.
They stage things.
TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 144d
Yeah of course! The timing with the Epstein files is just a coincidence. Just like all the other things he did when the issue of the Epstein files rose up.
StarryPhoenix97@lemmy.world · 53 pts · 145d
I’m not saying the system was good (far, far from it) but this asshole walked into office and started dismantling 100 years of economic diplomacy and peace through trade. There’s no way you can tell me he isn’t a useful idiot for Russia.
how_we_burned@lemmy.zip · 18 pts · 145d
And all it took was letting someone capture him doing the most vilest and evilist shit to children.
ripcord@lemmy.world · 30 pts · 145d
All it took was for virtually no one to do anything to stop him from doing whatever he wants
Napster153@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 144d
He's a useful fool every supermaster above him, especially those we don't know.
Digit@lemmy.wtf · 5 pts · 144d
In a pub, in 2004, an ex-colleague of Trump's told us about what a joke of a narcissist he is, being played by his psychopathic handlers, priming him for a puppet presidency.
FosterMolasses@leminal.space · 2 pts · 144d
And his entire campaign was based on convincing willful idiots that his presidency would do the exact opposite.
Now the US is dead last in education, science, GDP and trade. Lmao
Good luck blaming all that on Biden and Obama as if it's possible to pretend that any facet of society wasn't objectively better. There is no war in Ba Sing Se!
StarryPhoenix97@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 143d
Every day I get more and more depressed that he got a second term. We knew so much about him as a person before the election, and it has only gotten worse as time passes. The raping of children, his business practices, his racism, how he was raised, how he treats his family, his ties to the Russian mob... The fact that he's president is some kind of cosmic-level joke. The fact that the entire system let him become (and continue to be) president makes me lose faith in humanity. The Saul Goodman of slumloards was the best that the rich could pull off...and it WORKED? Like, are we always doomed to come back here? The powerful will always choose themselves over any common good. Even when the system resets, the accumulation of power is inevitable. Like... they chose him to dance and clown and do exactly what they want. I don't know whose hand is up his ass, but the fact that this is the guy, THE guy, and we watch him in real time dismantle 100 years of stabilizing economic policy, line his pockets, and more or less hand global hegemony to Russia and China.
All because he was an open secret of a rapist and Obama made fun of him once. I'm just dumbfounded. I truly thought better of humanity.
AA5B@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 143d
Are we still doing the Cold War? An ever increasing number of drumps policies mostly benefit China
StarryPhoenix97@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 143d
...You are aware of BRICS right?
AA5B@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 142d
Buffalox@lemmy.world · 47 pts · 145d
Do it yourself idiot! 🤮 🤡
But USA can't, and if they try they will just be further humiliated.
Maybe Trump thinks the military is refusing his orders, so he wants UK to do it for him instead.
The man is insane and has dementia on top of that. Congratulations to the Americans that elected him, you are the laughing stock of the world, especially those that want to harm USA.
WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 145d
If Steiner attacks, everything will be all right.
panda_abyss@lemmy.ca · 45 pts · 145d
If it’s so easy you just TAKE IT.
Is it not easy?
IchNichtenLichten@lemmy.wtf · 31 pts · 145d
It's not like Iran is a terrified 13 year old girl, they can fight back.
betterdeadthanreddit@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 144d
I'm starting to think we should give 13 year old girls attack drones and ballistic missiles. There are some potential downsides to this idea but the good may outweigh the harm.
paraphrand@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 145d
Grab em by the pussy.
RabbitBBQ@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 145d
Grab em by the petroleum
kent_eh@lemmy.ca · 37 pts · 145d
They weren't helping anyone else before.
At best, they were helping themselves (mostly) without actively interfering with others ability to do the same.
PolarKraken@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 7 pts · 144d
No dispute on all the many many harms done or anything in that vein, I'll never defend the US for countless things.
BUT there was some arguably good, compassionate work done that was effectively dismantled recently, and we shouldn't lose that detail.
We should remember that the federal govt for a country this huge can never be a monolith (and I do also mean that encouragingly, moving forward...).
We should remember also, that many quiet, gentle people who fundamentally deeply dislike the lived experience of the rat-race of capitalism - paradoxically find themselves seeking the stability and straightforward "work toward an anodyne but useful purpose" offered by many federal government sub-branch-agency-bureau whatevers. Too many to list in my already long comment, that function(ed) both as jobs programs, but also ways that decent Americans end up - by dint of sheer math - placing a very different set of moral values and actions into the broader US govt conduct.
Not a thing to give up quietly, but of course the bigger disasters (again, no dispute, there are many, and probably engineered to be such) will necessarily consume all oxygen in the room, so to speak.
davepleasebehave@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 144d
that's the plus side to the system? some very quiet people were gently making very small gestures?
PolarKraken@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 144d
Lol cool drive-by from an intentionally uncharitable read of what I said. "The plus side"?
Here's what I think - I think you don't have the first clue what I was talking about in specific, like the jobs and programs canceled, what they were, what they did. I think you squinted and saw the barest seed of pro-US sentiment (not really there) and took the opportunity to lob some very boring and poorly-constructed snark.
If you have an actual point to make, feel free of course. That option was already there for you though and you chose not to take it, so I don't have high hopes.
Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works · 37 pts · 145d
Once again the "most powerful military on earth" has to beg for help to defeat a single rogue state, and throws a tantrum when they don't get it.
osanna@lemmy.vg · 7 pts · 144d
america: BIGGEST ARMY IN THE WORLD. FUCK YEAH! AMERICA! WOO
Also america: pls halp.
100_kg_90_de_belin@feddit.it · 6 pts · 144d
The biggest army in the world has always been also a grift for lobbying contractors
Gsus4@mander.xyz · 35 pts · 145d
Uhm...turns out...the green transition was a core security policy. That is why maga, russia, gulf countries were against it...
Nunar@lemmy.world · 31 pts · 144d
What is a king if his crown is worthless? Not a man of the people, but surrounded by cultists. Praised by the loudest, loved by the thoughtless. Crowned not by honor, but by lies that were endless.
His walls crumble as whispers grow louder, Causing once-shaking hands to grip blades ever prouder. The throne he once clutched, now colder than stone, His fate sealed by the seeds of ruin he'd sown.
He feasts while his kingdom is left to rot, Drunk on his power yet blind to the plot. A puppet on strings, now tangled and caught. If he ends up dead, then that is his lot.
The crown on his head, a mockery now, A hollow gold band on a sweat-ridden brow. No glory remains, no trumpets resound, Only silence and ash on the burning ground.
Betrayed not by foes but those he called his closest friends,
Their daggers ensuring his rule meets its end. No prayers are whispered, no mourners will weep, For kings who sow torment shall fall just as deep.
When he ends up dead, the people have spoken, A crown polished with falsehood is a crown that is broken. And a kingdom built on cruelty is one which ends with dread,
The crown on his corpse was always a crown of the dead.
zenzanzoo@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 144d
Source?
smeenz@lemmy.nz · 6 pts · 144d
I read it on lemmy, just above your comment.
Randomgal@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 144d
ChatGPT
7101334@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 144d
The Muslim Outsider on YouTube, I think.
Hopefully he didn't use ChatGPT to write it lol but it doesn't really strike me as AI-written.
zenzanzoo@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 144d
Sounds like Tolkien to me.
zenzanzoo@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 144d
Thanks!
TrojanRoomCoffeePot@lemmy.world · 30 pts · 145d
What a boorish sack of shit, Jesus Christ, dealing with that man on a daily basis must be fucking exhausting.
Jhex@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 145d
Yes, but only for people with functioning brains
andallthat@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 145d
hey, I'm a certified idiot and even I can't take any more of this! I have these primal instincts of trying to stay alive and reproduce, and I find that my chances at both are highly correlated with being decent to the other members of my race (humans, I mean). No brain, no problem!
Jhex@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 145d
... it's a sliding scale
You and I are likely on the same category, yet compared to MAGA, we are basically geniuses
GreenBeanMachine@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 145d
Digit@lemmy.wtf · 1 pts · 144d
The North Sea?
GreenBeanMachine@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 144d
mech@feddit.org · 30 pts · 145d
The Brits supplying the British airfield from which US heavy bombers take off:
samus12345@sh.itjust.works · 26 pts · 145d
That's on them for continuing to do it!
MousePotatoDoesStuff@lemmy.world · 30 pts · 145d
Trump: "Go to the strait and just take it" Spain: "OK." Trump: "WAIT NO NOT LIKE THAT"
a_good_hunter@lemmy.world · 25 pts · 145d
TACO
borQue@lemmy.zip · 25 pts · 145d
This being is the embodyment of pure evil. The accumulated evil and greed of the whole of America.
bagsy@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 145d
i cant wait until america takes that big shit. You know the one I mean. Everyone will feel so much better.
davepleasebehave@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 144d
they just had million of people on the street and paraded around with their arts and crafts. they are all too apathetic at the moment as it has not really hurt them properly.
Blackmist@feddit.uk · 24 pts · 145d
We (the UK) don't need oil from the Strait of Hormuz. Most of that goes to Asian countries.
They're far more likely just to pay Iran a nominal amount to keep it flowing.
The UK actually imports more from the US than anywhere else. We should stop propping up tinpot regimes, and buy from local friendly countries, or better still, just use a lot less of it.
kent_eh@lemmy.ca · 19 pts · 145d
Ultimately that would be the winning strategy.
Digit@lemmy.wtf · 1 pts · 144d
and/or better still, just release the suppressed emancipatory technology, free energy as a fundamental right and utility.
Damage@feddit.it · 24 pts · 145d
So the US has more naval power than the whole of Europe together, and they need help fixing the mess they started?
DMCMNFIBFFF@lemmy.world · 23 pts · 144d
Maybe we can build even more big beautiful windmills.
darkmogool@feddit.org · 10 pts · 144d
oh nooo… they kill millions of birds and [insert random idiot argument]…
chrizzly@feddit.org · 3 pts · 144d
plus they're eating the dogs!
northface@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 144d
and are giving our kids autism!
gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de · 3 pts · 144d
bald eagle screaming intensifies
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 144d
Ohhh..my headaches...
gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works · 20 pts · 145d
I’m so tired
RosaLuxemburgsGhost@lemmy.ml · 19 pts · 145d
At least the ruling class isn’t hiding behind diplomacy anymore while they rape and pillage the world. They are showing their true colors in their political and economic wars and in their personal behaviors (Epstein).
MyVeryRealName@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 144d
They don't need to anymore
Sharkticon@lemmy.zip · 17 pts · 145d
And yet during this entire thing, like a battered spouse, Starmer has still been allowing US planes to use their bases. And will continue to do so.
zenzanzoo@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 144d
He must kneel to be allowed to have US nukes.
andallthat@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 144d
Yes please, stop helping. And thank you! See? I didn't forget to say it.
But really, you have done more than enough. A LOT more. Some would say you have done way too much. Get on your couch, turn on the tv, order a Big Mac and please, please, stop helping.
saimen@feddit.org · 16 pts · 144d
leriotdelac@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 142d
100%
(How I HATE this face tho)
finallymadeanaccount@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 144d
We will! And it'll have blackjack ... and hookers!
RaoulDook@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 145d
And just like with Venezuela the Oil Motive for war becomes obvious. Greedy old dumbass dinosaurs still think oil is worth killing for instead of working on the many alternatives that we have already available.
Digit@lemmy.wtf · 2 pts · 144d
I remember (from an energy conference sometime around 2002-4(?)), a sentiment shared by Patent Office whistle blower Tom Valone, something to the effect of: "By the year 2000 there had already been over 3000 free energy device patents secreted".
And some people still think if any such innovation existed, we'd have it. Oblivious to how big energy orchestrates the market to maintain our dependence on manufactured-scarce energy sources they can put a meter on. Even though Nikola Tesla wanted to power the world for free, a century ago.
We have so much headroom without the crooks.
Someone please explain to the billionaire parasites, even they can be better off with the emancipatory technologies de-secreted, availed, and provisioned, to each and all.
Among the many benefits: No more circularly reasoned "resource wars".
RaoulDook@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 144d
I guess the war industry and the oil industry are in business together. Oil wars keep the oil flowing and the weaponry dollars flying
theacharnian@lemmy.ca · 14 pts · 144d
At some point, some world leader should do a dressing down of this fuckface right there in the world stage.
Edit: Trudeau was too polite: https://youtube.com/shorts/G0va-McELJE
Nagrom@lemmy.ca · 13 pts · 145d
I broke it, you fix it.
MrSulu@lemmy.ml · 13 pts · 144d
Even in that statement he seems to suggest taking oil from another sovereign country. Taking over other countries is sadly our British history, but not current practice, unlike the US.
gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de · 2 pts · 144d
translatio imperii - The empire just moves westward throughout human history.
melsaskca@lemmy.ca · 12 pts · 145d
Trump started this shit and he should finish it (but sadly, he cannot).
snooggums@piefed.world · 13 pts · 145d
He should cut his losses and go cry in a corner.
Bwaz@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 145d
Think that's what he's doing. Though, Trump's version of "cry" is actually "blame everyone else, sulk, and act like he's on the high road". It takes the maturity of an infant to actually cry, Trump can't even manage that
WanderingThoughts@europe.pub · 3 pts · 145d
Or more likely lash out like a drowning man, grab anybody that comes too close and try to climb out on their backs in a wild panic while pushing the wannabe rescuer below the waves. Most know this and stay away.
Jimbabwe@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 145d
I would also accept crying his losses and cutting himself in a corner (though a trial for treason and a public hanging would be ideal)
explodicle@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 145d
Iran is so angry that the only thing ending the war any time soon is reparations.
Digit@lemmy.wtf · 3 pts · 144d
And for Palestine and all the countries that have suffered invasions in the surrounding area.
Digit@lemmy.wtf · 2 pts · 144d
He'll do as he's told!
marcos@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 145d
He should absolutely not finish it.
WTF kind of idea is that? He started killing random people so he must kill all of them?
ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 145d
I think OP meant pulling out. You know, like Fred Trump should've done.
marcos@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 145d
Oh, ok. If it's finishing by going away, yes he should.
1995ToyotaCorolla@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 144d
Now hopefully the UK will finally stop letting the US use them as an aircraft carrier... right?
Aeao@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 144d
Trump: “what if we pissed off everyone
Generals: pissing of all countries who-
Trump: “I said everyone! Every single person on the planet! I want them pissed all the time!
gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de · 7 pts · 144d
Now just sell it as lemonade and profit :)
FosterMolasses@leminal.space · 1 pts · 144d
This but unironically. It's how authoritarians retain power.
smeenz@lemmy.nz · 1 pts · 144d
Sadly 20% of Americans would rather cut their own head off than think badly of god emperor trump, so he'll never be able to upset everyone.
Patrikvo@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 144d
Wait, why weren't we informed that was an option?
pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 10 pts · 144d
Renewable energy baby go!
MrsDoyle@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 144d
I remember when he first threw his toys out of the pram over a wind farm visible from one of his Scottish golf courses. He's lost all his battles here, hah!
Wind farms aren't ideal given all the infrastructure needed, but they are certainly preferable to a war.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c15l3knp4xyo
CameronDev@programming.dev · 10 pts · 145d
I'm no mapologist, but getting oil from the straight of Hormuz to the UK seems like an incredibly long way around. Surely the UK gets their oil from elsewhere?
fizzle@quokk.au · 21 pts · 145d
In a way it doesn't matter who gets their oil from where.
Whoever was getting oil from Hormuz, is now getting it from wherever the UK was.
CameronDev@programming.dev · 9 pts · 145d
Yeah, that's a problem for sure. But also means that securing Hormuz doesn't solve anything, because tomorrow the pedo will invade some other oil critical country. Can't exactly plan around a lunatic.
fizzle@quokk.au · 2 pts · 145d
Obviously, it will be better for everyone if oil is moving through the Strait.
m0darn@lemmy.ca · 5 pts · 145d
Actually it's best if we focus on reducing carbon emmitting energy source usage. High oil prices make that easier.
fizzle@quokk.au · 1 pts · 145d
Or you know... do both?
The Hormuz situation is about to precipitate a financial crisis the likes of which we have never seen.
We can't avoid it by all buying EVs.
m0darn@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 145d
Can you elaborate on this? And how it is worse than the impending financial crisis due to barely mitigated climate change?
fizzle@quokk.au · 1 pts · 144d
We haven't encountered an impending financial crisis due to climate change yet.
prex@aussie.zone · 7 pts · 145d
US and Norway according to this
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 145d
You would not believe how stupid and outdated the infrastructure is in that region.
Everyone just grabs the money.
Triumph@fedia.io · 3 pts · 145d
Suez canal
CameronDev@programming.dev · 6 pts · 145d
Still a long way given Norway (and the rest of the north sea oilfields) is right next door.
atzanteol@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 145d
My understanding (and I am not an expert) is that it "kinda doesn't matter" since you're just sending out trains of huge tankers. The throughput is maintained even if the latency is increased. There is extra cost to taking a longer route to be sure, but it's been optimized for cost to the point where markets don't even take a big hit when ships go all the way around Africa instead.
rayyy@piefed.social · 10 pts · 145d
Probably said the same thing to his creditors - "Go get your own money. I can't help you".
PolarKraken@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 144d
His creditors, contractors of any scale he hires (meaning this for the ...ahem "real estate" portion of his career lmao, decades ago) - apparently anyone, doesn't matter - the strongarm "fuck you, grab you by the pussy" - now just openly - continues to fucking WORK.
And we have people constantly, everywhere, in this thread of course, misunderstanding him as "stupid". Absurd, beyond frustrating.
DarkDecay@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 145d
Lol grandpa is triggering himself. What a stable genius
theacharnian@lemmy.ca · 9 pts · 144d
Great advertisement for Chinese solar tech.
monkeyman76@fedinsfw.app · 9 pts · 145d
He'll be never see it, but.. get fucked you orange faced cunt.
gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de · 8 pts · 144d
The US economy is generally down, but there are exceptions. Some companies make more profit than they did before, especially US oil companies.
Why? Simple. Prices for oil are up, the US oil companies continue to extract the same amount out of the ground, which they can now sell at higher prices -> higher profit.
wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz · 8 pts · 145d
What a fucking loser.
yuknowhokat@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 144d
Damn, what a petulant little child he is. Anyone who feels he is the right person for the job has not been paying attention
JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 142d
The voters and sitouts own every day of this shit. Fucking idiots.
SnarkoPolo@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 144d
I'm half expecting him to declare martial law tonight.
SabinStargem@lemmy.today · 7 pts · 145d
Good. Trump's "helping" hand is covered in blood and shit.
inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 145d
I mean, same should be said about Trump's son.
marcos@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 145d
That's the correct speech. He's preparing to abandon Israel alone at the war.
b161@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 6 pts · 145d
Israel will do a false flag “Iranian” terrorist attack, or release more Epstein files before they let him just walk away.
Brunbrun6766@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 145d
marcos@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 145d
Ok, he may be only trying to mislead people and manipulate stock markets too.
But that's the speech he'd use if he was intending to go away and abandon the war.
skozzii@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 145d
Hopefully this unites the Arab world against Isreal again, they have been bought off by the US for awhile but it's time for a good Ole fashioned jihad.
Tarambor@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 145d
But we have plenty of oil. Middle Eastern oil accounts for barely 2%.
tacoplease@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 144d
These numbnuts haven't figured out that it's not that hard for any other country to get their oil. Only the US and Israel need to suffer to this war.
D1re_W0lf@piefed.social · 5 pts · 145d
“We have plenty”
that we stole from VenezuelaJankatarch@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 144d
US owes most of its national debt to UK after Japan and China btw.
metermatic26@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 144d
Why can’t the UK just deal with Iran directly? Why pander to an ungrateful US?
sirico@feddit.uk · 4 pts · 144d
No help only help
libre_warrior@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 144d
Why cant the Washington regime "just take" it?
etuomaala@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 139d
Any nation that didn't use fossil fuels anymore wouldn't have to care anymore.
WanderingThoughts@europe.pub · 1 pts · 145d
Digit@lemmy.wtf · 1 pts · 144d
Plenty more in the North Sea.
FosterMolasses@leminal.space · 0 pts · 144d
Oh shit lol