He's making things up and moved the goal posts of his claim several times when he got corrected.
Apparently, according to him, the terms 'afternoon tea' and 'high tea' have been informally switched in the UK, and apparently everyone knows this but it's not in the wikipedia artical because...
Second goal post move, he's apparently not talking about the British custom of tea here, but of tea in some other as yet un-named country.
Edit: Chat we've hit 3 goal post moves! I repeat, the third goal post has been moved. Our man isn't playing on any team now and has gone rogue on the pitch as apparently now everything he's said was all supposed to be just a flippant joke! Lmao.
Dinner, as the main meal, used to be closer to midday in agrarian times, with the evening meal being a light supper. Only the industrial revolution, with workers spending most of the working day in the workplace, changed this.
Interestingly most Psych units I've worked (US) serve (roughly timed):
0800 - breakfast
along with a lightly caffeinated coffee or tea, the only caffeine routinely served
1200 - lunch
1700 - dinner
2000 - snack
usually prepackaged chips and crackers, sometimes cookies or ice cream. The long stay hospital gave the patients 25¢ for every group they attended and they could order nicer stuff from the staff member who made the weekly Walmart trip.
Interestingly, in Canada "high tea" is a fancy afternoon tea with little sandwiches and desserts. Often something you can book at posh hotels like Fairmonts.
I'll copy it over too, just in case you also don't remember how to click on links, chief.
Explanation if any of our foreign cousins want it.
Tea, short for tea time.
In the South you used to (and still do) have the following three meals a day:
Breakfast, lunch, dinner.
In the North, however…
Breakfast, dinner, tea.
Both might tie the end of the day off with supper too. Brunch is for the jobless middle class and wandered into the conversation with yuppies in the 80s.
There’s also a tea break, which is usually just a cup (or mug if you are a ruffian) of tea. Not to be confused with tea time, where you might reasonably expect to eat your dinner.
Then there’s high tea, which yes, features tea. Often a pot and almost never a mug. It frequently comes with anemic sandwiches and perhaps a scone.
I hope that clears things up.
So apparently all this here isn't you explaining about the British custom of 'tea' in a top comment on a thread about 'wacky things British people say', but is actually you just explaining about the 'tea' custom of a totally unrelated and as yet un-named country?...
Seriously, chief, this one is on you. You goofed up and didn't like being corrected, so you had this little tantrum trying to 'no, you' your way into still being right. Lmao. That's pathetic.
In my house we use the Southern words during the week and the Northern version on Sundays, as in Sunday Dinner. Are we weird or does anyone else do that?
I've always called it Sunday lunch, but do use a mush of dinner and tea. Dinner is just the biggest meal of the day, and may or may not be at tea time.
I’m from the north but live with southerners now. I grew up with dinner at noon (in school—dinner time, dinner-ladies).
We’ve now compromised on breakfast, lunch, tea, and on Sunday it’s a grey area between Sunday lunch and Sunday dinner depending on how much the schedule has slipped.
The thing is, you might not know! A work colleague who calls their 12:30pm break their "dinner break", might separately go home and ask their partner "what should we have for dinner?".
In the South you used to (and still do) have the following three meals a day:
Breakfast, lunch, dinner.
In the North, however...
Breakfast, dinner, tea.
In the South, we sometimes have "breakfast, dinner, supper" (especially in rural areas; city folks are more likely to have "breakfast, lunch, dinner") and our tea definitely has ice and a fuckton of sugar in it.
Yeah as someone that's a Yankee to both of them, it's rude as hell here to be an ass in response to a polite correction to something you probably should have noticed.
It's fucking beverage all the way down in English.
Bonus:
BRIBE. Lunch'd O dear! Permit me, my dear Mrs. Prattle, to refresh my sponge, upon the honey dew that clings to your ravishing pouters. O! Mrs. Prattle, this shall be my lunch.
Why is this usage of tea so confusing for everybody? We re-use words all the time in English. It's a very simple concept. Imagine if a musician asked about the key of a song and everybody was like "KEY? LIKE A CAR KEY? WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? SONGS DONT HAVE KEYS! IVE NEVER BEEN SO CONFUSED IN MY LIFE"
Up north we say "tea" for evening meal. That's it. Explanation sorted.
Ok it was a deliberately silly example for emphasis. Here's a real example. I went to Australia once and in the airport somebody referred to my Mentos as "lolly". To me, lollies are on a stick. Apparently not to aussies. It threw me off for half a second, but that's it. Confused is an overstatement.
Yeah but the context clues are a hell of a lot easier there. You're holding an object, and if someone called it a chupa-chupa or a sucker most people would be able to put that together pretty easily
Now imagine you're going through stretches and someone walks in and is like "oh, playing football are you". You could be preparing to go outside and play football... But you're just stretching
I think most people would be confused by that unexpected second meaning of a familiar word
Yeah once a date invited me up for coffee and I was enjoying my time with her and thought another 15 minutes or so of conversation would be nice, but then it was suddenly like she forgot she invited me in or something because she just started getting ready for bed instead of making any coffee! I just politely said I needed to get going so she didn't feel embarrassed about forgetting she had invited me for coffee, though I think I failed because she did seem a bit upset.
So I tried to be considerate and go through a coffee shop drivethru after the next couple of dates. Even then, she offered coffee the first time and I pointed at my cup and said I'm fine, though that seemed to make her feel even more embarrassed as she looked like she was about to cry after that.
Then the next time she said, "I think we've been having a miscommunication when I've been inviting you up for coffee, I didn't really mean coffee, but I was being a bit immature and dancing around what I really wanted and then getting my feelings hurt when you didn't get the message. So I'll just say what I mean this time. Would you like to come up and have sex with me?"
I informed her that's where babies come from and she already knew and still wanted it. Then she was trying to say something about being on a pill and I noped out of there. I am not interested in a relationship where my partner likes to get high on pills and have babies. That just seems irresponsible to me.
I'm a fan of Norm MacDonald's style. Not sure why a long joke with a mediocre payoff is so funny to me, though thanks because getting ratio'd by this comment is even funnier. It's like a committee deciding I deserve a participation trophy, though they did not appreciate the joke itself.
In Brazil, "café da manhã" (morning coffee) is the term for breakfast, but it's often shortened to just "café."
There was a mobile blood donation set up during Covid and I asked the group chat if it was okay to have coffee before donating, and the response was, "Yes, you should definitely be well-fed before donating blood."
Might work in Portuguese. In my original example it wouldn’t work in German. "Zusammen einen Kaffee trinking gehen" (to go drink a coffee together) still doesn’t imply that you actually drink coffee, it more implies that you just get a small thing together.
Yeah, it’s actually more based around industrialisation than a north/south thing. I think the Cornish miners also came home for noon dinner as the main meal of the day and then had tea in the evening.
As a yank, it's because you're saying tea where the correct phrase uses coffee /s
But for real, it's because over here we offer dinner to mean dinner, and coffee to mean "no obligation to sit through a meal or anything, but please come over/stay a while longer. A coffee can turn into a dinner, but it involves the intermediary offer of "I'm getting kind of hungry, would you like to stay for dinner?"
Its much the same here, honestly in context it would be fairly clear what is meant. I mostly say dinner rather than tea myself. But yeah, the social thing to come and sit with a hot drink, regardless of tea or coffee, is generally to offer it as tea before asking if they want tea or coffee.
Apparently some Australian families refer to the midday meal as "dinner" instead of "lunch" which I only learned after hesitantly sitting down for "dinner" at 1pm.
Very common in the UK too. Lunch is dinner, dinner is dinner, dinner is tea, tea is also a specific type of afternoon meal (scones and sandwiches).
Even then, people will just say something like 'morning tea' instead of breakfast.
It's a linguistic war zone.
What the fuck.
Have never heard anyone call lunch anything other than that, unless it is a tradie who might say 'smoko' for lunch or a 15 minute snack break.
Aussie terms for meals:
Breakfast/brekkie
Morning tea/smoko*
Lunch (or brunch if its ~9-11am)
Afternoon tea/arvo tea*
Dinner/Tea
Dessert/Sweets*
*morning/arvo tea are primarily for social sit downs and would be like biscuits/scones and a cup of tea/coffee (having a cuppa with friends/family, small meetings with clients, retirees with nothing better to do)
dessert/sweets is if your having something after dinner, like some pie/crumble with ice cream, pancakes, etc)
Also 'entree' is a small course before the main meal in dinner, the USA confused the fuck out of me when i visited.
My Aussie friend mainly had problems with remembering our egg doneness "sunny side up" and "over easy", i'm unsure of what her proper terms were for it.
Yes, an entree is also known as an appetiser, as per the definition of the word ;)
We would say sunny side up here too, but we would probably more commonly just say 'flipped'.
And i order myne "cooked through" or "flipped and crucified", because i really prefer theres no runny yolk unless its mi goreng or over steak tartare.
Back in the day, the noon/midday meal was called dinner also in the US. Particularly in rural areas.
And for some of us boomers it's still dinner. Growing up on a farm, Breakfast was 6am-ish thing after chores were done, (you could sneak in some jelly toast before chores if you weren't to lazy to get up early enough), the noon dinner, and you always came home to eat it, was a full meal deal because you had spent your morning often doing heavy manual labor. Plus your afternoon was going to be no different. You got lunch a 4pm because supper was a 7pm-ish meal, (often heavy on the "ish" part depending on what went wrong during the afternoon).
We evidently didn't get the memo about changing dinner to lunch until much, much later. Besides, we would have needed to rename "lunch" to something else for the 4pm break. I still call the noon meal dinner to this day. You can call it whatever you like, because I don't sweat those details.
My great uncle got embarassed over this early on in his career. His boss invited him to dinner on Saturday and so he showed up with his wife around noon since that was the typical understanding in his home region. The boss thought he was crazy and told him off for arriving hours earlier than expected.
They still call the midday meal dinner and the later one supper, though I say lunch for the middle one and use the words dinner & supper interchangeably.
In my rural midwestern US family, "dinner" meant the largest meal of the day, frequently with our extended family, almost always at my grandparents' house.
"Sunday dinner" was midday, right after church. This was typically pot roast in the cold months and barbecue in the summer.
On weekdays, dinner was in the evening after everyone came home from work and school. We had a big family dinner at least a couple of times per week when I was a kid. (My grandma and sometimes my great aunts would do the cooking. In hindsight, I think my mom and my uncle struggled financially after their respective divorces, and this was the older generation's way of helping them out.)
Holiday dinners were usually midday, unless someone had to work and we needed to plan around that.
If we were talking about the meal at a specific time of day, we used "lunch" or "supper," since "dinner" was ambiguous.
I've heard lunch being referred to as dinner in Canada as well.
Apparently it's a thing throughout the English speaking world. According to Wikipedia, "dinner" means largest and most formal meal of the day.
Apparently elites started having dinner later and later in the day, while the working class continued to have dinner at midday. So it'll tend to be working class people that will refer to "lunch" as "dinner".
That fits my experience with the word, I've only ever heard working class people say "dinner" to mean "lunch". I can't recall ever hearing an upper class person use the word dinner in this way.
So it's not a strictly Australian thing, it's a working class thing
Interesting, I did not know that. These people were farmers, so it tracks that they would have their big meal at midday. They called mid-day meal "Dinner" and their evening meal "Tea"
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adam_y@lemmy.world · 144 pts · 35d
mr_satan@lemmy.zip · 71 pts · 35d
Not really. You had me in the first half, tho.
TootSweet@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 34d
Right? I'm clearly far too American to understand. I'm more confused than I was before.
Fmstrat@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 34d
Wait until you find out you can have pudding for pudding.
Edit: Since it's mean not to explain - pudding is another way to say desert.
forbiddencherry@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 33d
How can you have any pudding if you don't eat your meat?
OryxAndCake@slrpnk.net · 0 pts · 33d
He's making things up and moved the goal posts of his claim several times when he got corrected.
Apparently, according to him, the terms 'afternoon tea' and 'high tea' have been informally switched in the UK, and apparently everyone knows this but it's not in the wikipedia artical because...
Second goal post move, he's apparently not talking about the British custom of tea here, but of tea in some other as yet un-named country.
Edit: Chat we've hit 3 goal post moves! I repeat, the third goal post has been moved. Our man isn't playing on any team now and has gone rogue on the pitch as apparently now everything he's said was all supposed to be just a flippant joke! Lmao.
adam_y@lemmy.world · -2 pts · 33d
OryxAndCake@slrpnk.net · 2 pts · 33d
Nor does spouting shit and doubling down with yet more shit when you're corrected.
Anyway, why would I want to be friends with you? That shit you spouted wasn't even funny bro.
AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space · 25 pts · 35d
Dinner, as the main meal, used to be closer to midday in agrarian times, with the evening meal being a light supper. Only the industrial revolution, with workers spending most of the working day in the workplace, changed this.
BurntWits@sh.itjust.works · 15 pts · 35d
Where my family’s from, that naming convention is still used.
Breakfast - first meal of the day
Dinner - midday meal
Supper - evening meal
Lunch - a small snack with no specific time
Apytele@sh.itjust.works · 7 pts · 35d
Interestingly most Psych units I've worked (US) serve (roughly timed):
0800 - breakfast
1200 - lunch
1700 - dinner
2000 - snack
adam_y@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 34d
OryxAndCake@slrpnk.net · 12 pts · 35d
Wrong way round.
High tea is/was the working class term for an evening meal as it was had at the table, and it would usually include cooked meat.
Afternoon tea is the posh one in the afternoon with the cucumber sandwiches with the crusts cut off.
usualsuspect191@lemmy.ca · 7 pts · 35d
Interestingly, in Canada "high tea" is a fancy afternoon tea with little sandwiches and desserts. Often something you can book at posh hotels like Fairmonts.
OryxAndCake@slrpnk.net · 4 pts · 35d
I've seen places here mix them up too, it's not uncommon.
If you want to be a pedant or just find this sort of thing amusing, you could send the hotel restaurant a link to the wikipedia page.
adam_y@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 34d
OryxAndCake@slrpnk.net · 1 pts · 34d
Ok, go edit the wikipedia article then if you're so sure of yourself.
adam_y@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 34d
OryxAndCake@slrpnk.net · 0 pts · 34d
Can you quote the bit? I'm not seeing it. The only place anything similar is mentioned refers to it happening outside of the uk.
adam_y@lemmy.world · -2 pts · 34d
OryxAndCake@slrpnk.net · 1 pts · 34d
Bruh. You literally posted this: https://slrpnk.net/post/40256413/23312028
I'll copy it over too, just in case you also don't remember how to click on links, chief.
So apparently all this here isn't you explaining about the British custom of 'tea' in a top comment on a thread about 'wacky things British people say', but is actually you just explaining about the 'tea' custom of a totally unrelated and as yet un-named country?...
Seriously, chief, this one is on you. You goofed up and didn't like being corrected, so you had this little tantrum trying to 'no, you' your way into still being right. Lmao. That's pathetic.
SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml · 4 pts · 35d
Ah Britain, sailing the high teas
arandomthought@sh.itjust.works · 9 pts · 35d
I somehow feel more informed and more confused at the same time.
thisisbutaname@discuss.tchncs.de · 7 pts · 35d
What about second breakfast?
BeardedGingerWonder@feddit.uk · 6 pts · 35d
10 o'clock tea and elevenses could both reasonably fit the bill here I feel.
skisnow@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 34d
In my house we use the Southern words during the week and the Northern version on Sundays, as in Sunday Dinner. Are we weird or does anyone else do that?
adam_y@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 34d
theo@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 34d
I've always called it Sunday lunch, but do use a mush of dinner and tea. Dinner is just the biggest meal of the day, and may or may not be at tea time.
dave@feddit.uk · 1 pts · 34d
I’m from the north but live with southerners now. I grew up with dinner at noon (in school—dinner time, dinner-ladies).
We’ve now compromised on breakfast, lunch, tea, and on Sunday it’s a grey area between Sunday lunch and Sunday dinner depending on how much the schedule has slipped.
Iusedtobeanalien@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 34d
It's not a north/south thing It's a working class/posho thing
adam_y@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 34d
Skullgrid@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 34d
can confirm, ex's Manc dad used to call it "Tea"
OryxAndCake@slrpnk.net · 2 pts · 33d
This however also directly correlates with the historical rich/poor divide of the country.
The south has historically been richer, and this is still seen today even with the wealth accumilation that major cities have developed.
https://www.ons.gov.uk/visualisations/dvc1370/
adam_y@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 33d
OryxAndCake@slrpnk.net · 3 pts · 33d
It's a rich poor thing just as much as a north south thing.
k0e3@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 34d
What time do you usually have these?
Are we talking South dinner or North dinner? .
fartographer@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 34d
Can I use the same mug to microwave all of my meals and tea? I promise to wipe the inside clean with the corner of my shirt.
edwardbear@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 34d
isn’t that how you are supposed to do it?
fakeman_pretendname@feddit.uk · 1 pts · 35d
You can also have "breakfast, lunch and tea", or breakfast, dinner and dinner".
adam_y@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 34d
fakeman_pretendname@feddit.uk · 4 pts · 34d
The thing is, you might not know! A work colleague who calls their 12:30pm break their "dinner break", might separately go home and ask their partner "what should we have for dinner?".
grue@lemmy.world · -2 pts · 35d
In the South, we sometimes have "breakfast, dinner, supper" (especially in rural areas; city folks are more likely to have "breakfast, lunch, dinner") and our tea definitely has ice and a fuckton of sugar in it.
adam_y@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 34d
grue@lemmy.world · -3 pts · 34d
Bless your heart. 😉
adam_y@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 34d
sem@piefed.blahaj.zone · 4 pts · 34d
It's not a cultural thing, it is universally unhinged
captainlezbian@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 33d
Yeah as someone that's a Yankee to both of them, it's rude as hell here to be an ass in response to a polite correction to something you probably should have noticed.
grue@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 33d
It was meant to be a tongue-and-cheek confirmation that, yes, I was joking about the American south.
It didn't land well.
adam_y@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 33d
grue@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 33d
If my joke doesn't land that's my fault, not yours.
adam_y@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 34d
rtxn@lemmy.world · 95 pts · 35d
Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 24 pts · 35d
British people:
SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml · 6 pts · 35d
I guess the argument could be made that chicken soup is a tea
squigglycunt@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 35d
i did not expect british diogenes
roguetrick@lemmy.world · 22 pts · 35d
https://www.etymonline.com/word/lunch
It's fucking beverage all the way down in English.
Bonus:
Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 35d
Oppopity@lemmy.ml · 18 pts · 34d
There's morning tea which is a light meal between breakfast and lunch.
smeenz@lemmy.nz · 14 pts · 34d
And there's tea time, which is dinner, and also tee time, which is a golfing thing.
And there's also the long dark tea time of the soul, which is a book by Douglas Adams
GiveOver@feddit.uk · 18 pts · 35d
Why is this usage of tea so confusing for everybody? We re-use words all the time in English. It's a very simple concept. Imagine if a musician asked about the key of a song and everybody was like "KEY? LIKE A CAR KEY? WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? SONGS DONT HAVE KEYS! IVE NEVER BEEN SO CONFUSED IN MY LIFE"
Up north we say "tea" for evening meal. That's it. Explanation sorted.
Soulg@ani.social · 43 pts · 34d
Terrible example and it's just demonstrating that you can't put yourself in someone else's shoes for even a moment.
You understand that usage of tea because you used it your entire life, someone who hasn't would rightfully be confused.
GiveOver@feddit.uk · 11 pts · 34d
Ok it was a deliberately silly example for emphasis. Here's a real example. I went to Australia once and in the airport somebody referred to my Mentos as "lolly". To me, lollies are on a stick. Apparently not to aussies. It threw me off for half a second, but that's it. Confused is an overstatement.
theneverfox@pawb.social · 11 pts · 34d
Yeah but the context clues are a hell of a lot easier there. You're holding an object, and if someone called it a chupa-chupa or a sucker most people would be able to put that together pretty easily
Now imagine you're going through stretches and someone walks in and is like "oh, playing football are you". You could be preparing to go outside and play football... But you're just stretching
I think most people would be confused by that unexpected second meaning of a familiar word
sem@piefed.blahaj.zone · 8 pts · 34d
Imagine you are cooking a chicken. Your flatmate walks in, sees what you're doing, and says, oh, are you making coffee?
You wouldn't be just a little bit confused at first?
J92@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 34d
Not OP, but out of interest, if you are from the UK, what did you call the (primarily) women who served food in school at around noon?
rtxn@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 34d
But when my Irish friend wants to smoke a cigarette, everybody loses their fucking mind.
basxto@discuss.tchncs.de · 8 pts · 34d
It still confuses me that I can have a cup of coffee with somebody without actually drinking coffee. (In English and my mother tongue as well.)
infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net · 6 pts · 34d
As a coffee drinker, if I was invited for some coffee and did not in fact get any coffee I'd be both a little confused and a little annoyed.
Buddahriffic@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 34d
Yeah once a date invited me up for coffee and I was enjoying my time with her and thought another 15 minutes or so of conversation would be nice, but then it was suddenly like she forgot she invited me in or something because she just started getting ready for bed instead of making any coffee! I just politely said I needed to get going so she didn't feel embarrassed about forgetting she had invited me for coffee, though I think I failed because she did seem a bit upset.
So I tried to be considerate and go through a coffee shop drivethru after the next couple of dates. Even then, she offered coffee the first time and I pointed at my cup and said I'm fine, though that seemed to make her feel even more embarrassed as she looked like she was about to cry after that.
Then the next time she said, "I think we've been having a miscommunication when I've been inviting you up for coffee, I didn't really mean coffee, but I was being a bit immature and dancing around what I really wanted and then getting my feelings hurt when you didn't get the message. So I'll just say what I mean this time. Would you like to come up and have sex with me?"
I informed her that's where babies come from and she already knew and still wanted it. Then she was trying to say something about being on a pill and I noped out of there. I am not interested in a relationship where my partner likes to get high on pills and have babies. That just seems irresponsible to me.
Sarcasmo220@lemmy.ml · 5 pts · 34d
You put in a lot of effort on this joke so I'll give an upvote and this comment
Buddahriffic@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 33d
I'm a fan of Norm MacDonald's style. Not sure why a long joke with a mediocre payoff is so funny to me, though thanks because getting ratio'd by this comment is even funnier. It's like a committee deciding I deserve a participation trophy, though they did not appreciate the joke itself.
captainlezbian@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 33d
Ok yeah my cultural blinders were on here, I totally forgot that here in America coffee can mean sex
MrEnitity@sopuli.xyz · 3 pts · 34d
In Brazil, "café da manhã" (morning coffee) is the term for breakfast, but it's often shortened to just "café."
There was a mobile blood donation set up during Covid and I asked the group chat if it was okay to have coffee before donating, and the response was, "Yes, you should definitely be well-fed before donating blood."
sem@piefed.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 34d
That's pretty good!
Is the context where if you had said can i drink coffee before, it would have been less ambiguous?
basxto@discuss.tchncs.de · 2 pts · 30d
Might work in Portuguese. In my original example it wouldn’t work in German. "Zusammen einen Kaffee trinking gehen" (to go drink a coffee together) still doesn’t imply that you actually drink coffee, it more implies that you just get a small thing together.
9point6@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 34d
Yeah, but as someone who grew up down south and has lived in the north for the majority of my life:
Very clear, no fucker doesn't know what you're talking about
What the fuck are you playing at, skipping lunch and having a drink to compensate?
Get in the sea
Tea is important enough in this country to not use the word again, especially not for the second most important thing: dinner
GiveOver@feddit.uk · 1 pts · 34d
Dinner is at midday, what are you playing at having 2 meals at midday and no evening meal? Get back to France
pirc_lover@feddit.uk · 3 pts · 34d
I am also someone who grew up down south and we always had breakfast, lunch and tea \o/
NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone · 2 pts · 34d
Yeah, it’s actually more based around industrialisation than a north/south thing. I think the Cornish miners also came home for noon dinner as the main meal of the day and then had tea in the evening.
pirc_lover@feddit.uk · 1 pts · 33d
That tracks as I’m in the south west
Nouvellalia@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 34d
It's ok how much you like tea. I'm sorry they hurt you about it. Tea is super neat and fun and good. You are super neat and fun and good.
tutter@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 5 pts · 34d
bruh because it's confusing that a meal is named after a beverage, it's not the double naming that's confusing
LodeMike@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 34d
Isn't "key" for a lock like, as old as modern English?
nightlily@leminal.space · 1 pts · 33d
Wait till they find out what „Gohan“ means in Japan, or „Abendbrot“ in Germany. They’re going to have a nervous breakdown.
NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone · 16 pts · 34d
If they didn’t want to have tea, why the fuck were they making it at tea time?
Passerby6497@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 34d
Is that like how every soft drink is a coke in the American south?
Sunschein@piefed.social · 13 pts · 35d
Well, according to British Standard 6008 (ISO 3103), the preparation of a liquor of tea requires a tea leaf.
I don't know why I have that knowledge in my back pocket, nor the urge to share that information, but there you go.
pirc_lover@feddit.uk · 3 pts · 34d
My guess would be via Tom Scott
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nAsrsMPftOI&pp=ygUNVG9tIHNjb3R0IHRlYQ%3D%3D&ra=m
TipRing@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 34d
Have I been confused this when time? If I get invited to have tea am I being invited to a meal? I thought it was like getting coffee.
Pipster@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 9 pts · 34d
Offer of a hot beverage:
Even less ambiguous if cuppa/brew etc. is used Typically only offered in the morning or afternoon if you have just 'popped round'.
Offer of dinner:
Typically if you you weren't intending on staying or are being explicitly invited over.
Don't see how any of this could be confusing at all to people not born into it with innate understanding 😅
rumba@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 33d
OK, I thought I had a good handle on Tea. I was wrong. T(ea)IL
captainlezbian@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 33d
As a yank, it's because you're saying tea where the correct phrase uses coffee /s
But for real, it's because over here we offer dinner to mean dinner, and coffee to mean "no obligation to sit through a meal or anything, but please come over/stay a while longer. A coffee can turn into a dinner, but it involves the intermediary offer of "I'm getting kind of hungry, would you like to stay for dinner?"
Pipster@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 33d
Its much the same here, honestly in context it would be fairly clear what is meant. I mostly say dinner rather than tea myself. But yeah, the social thing to come and sit with a hot drink, regardless of tea or coffee, is generally to offer it as tea before asking if they want tea or coffee.
blockheadjt@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 34d
Coffee can be a meal.
Bashnagdul@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 34d
You make coffee wrong....
TerHu@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 34d
You’d think, but i lived close to a school where the 16 year olds had coffee and cigarettes as breakfast…
rumba@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 33d
Kid I used to know did beer and a cigs for breakfast.
He did not follow Icarus' path in life
ICastFist@programming.dev · 2 pts · 34d
I've heard that a russian meal was a bottle of vodka and a pack of cigarettes, didn't know coffee could substitute that
Simon_Shitewood@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 33d
coffe and a cigarette is the traditional breakfast of most of the romance countries.
Lileath@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 5 pts · 33d
And most tradespeople in the rest of europe.
TerHu@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 33d
yeah, probably depends on where you live i guess
blockheadjt@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 33d
I said can be. The way I make it is something else.
nickiwest@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 33d
I have not experienced that, but I have had a Bloody Mary that qualified as a meal.
Hupf@feddit.org · 9 pts · 34d
WhoIzDisIz@lemmy.today · 8 pts · 35d
It was a subtle hint to request tea be made by the person already using the oven/stove.
Agent641@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 34d
Apparently some Australian families refer to the midday meal as "dinner" instead of "lunch" which I only learned after hesitantly sitting down for "dinner" at 1pm.
filcuk@feddit.uk · 7 pts · 34d
Very common in the UK too. Lunch is dinner, dinner is dinner, dinner is tea, tea is also a specific type of afternoon meal (scones and sandwiches).
Even then, people will just say something like 'morning tea' instead of breakfast.
It's a linguistic war zone.
Agent641@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 34d
And if you want actual tea, you ask for a 'cuppa'
Simon_Shitewood@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 33d
Or a brew in the North.
JackFrostNCola@aussie.zone · 7 pts · 34d
What the fuck.
Have never heard anyone call lunch anything other than that, unless it is a tradie who might say 'smoko' for lunch or a 15 minute snack break.
Aussie terms for meals:
Breakfast/brekkie
Morning tea/smoko*
Lunch (or brunch if its ~9-11am)
Afternoon tea/arvo tea*
Dinner/Tea
Dessert/Sweets*
*morning/arvo tea are primarily for social sit downs and would be like biscuits/scones and a cup of tea/coffee (having a cuppa with friends/family, small meetings with clients, retirees with nothing better to do)
Also 'entree' is a small course before the main meal in dinner, the USA confused the fuck out of me when i visited.
rumba@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 33d
Apparently, your entrées are our appetizers :)
My Aussie friend mainly had problems with remembering our egg doneness "sunny side up" and "over easy", i'm unsure of what her proper terms were for it.
JackFrostNCola@aussie.zone · 2 pts · 32d
Yes, an entree is also known as an appetiser, as per the definition of the word ;)
We would say sunny side up here too, but we would probably more commonly just say 'flipped'.
And i order myne "cooked through" or "flipped and crucified", because i really prefer theres no runny yolk unless its mi goreng or over steak tartare.
Bluewing@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 34d
Back in the day, the noon/midday meal was called dinner also in the US. Particularly in rural areas. And for some of us boomers it's still dinner. Growing up on a farm, Breakfast was 6am-ish thing after chores were done, (you could sneak in some jelly toast before chores if you weren't to lazy to get up early enough), the noon dinner, and you always came home to eat it, was a full meal deal because you had spent your morning often doing heavy manual labor. Plus your afternoon was going to be no different. You got lunch a 4pm because supper was a 7pm-ish meal, (often heavy on the "ish" part depending on what went wrong during the afternoon).
We evidently didn't get the memo about changing dinner to lunch until much, much later. Besides, we would have needed to rename "lunch" to something else for the 4pm break. I still call the noon meal dinner to this day. You can call it whatever you like, because I don't sweat those details.
Nautalax@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 33d
My great uncle got embarassed over this early on in his career. His boss invited him to dinner on Saturday and so he showed up with his wife around noon since that was the typical understanding in his home region. The boss thought he was crazy and told him off for arriving hours earlier than expected.
They still call the midday meal dinner and the later one supper, though I say lunch for the middle one and use the words dinner & supper interchangeably.
nickiwest@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 33d
In my rural midwestern US family, "dinner" meant the largest meal of the day, frequently with our extended family, almost always at my grandparents' house.
"Sunday dinner" was midday, right after church. This was typically pot roast in the cold months and barbecue in the summer.
On weekdays, dinner was in the evening after everyone came home from work and school. We had a big family dinner at least a couple of times per week when I was a kid. (My grandma and sometimes my great aunts would do the cooking. In hindsight, I think my mom and my uncle struggled financially after their respective divorces, and this was the older generation's way of helping them out.)
Holiday dinners were usually midday, unless someone had to work and we needed to plan around that.
If we were talking about the meal at a specific time of day, we used "lunch" or "supper," since "dinner" was ambiguous.
deft@lemmy.wtf · 4 pts · 34d
I think they call it supper right? I believe this was an American South thing too
mbp@slrpnk.net · 4 pts · 34d
Supper = dinner in The South
sem@piefed.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 34d
And Midwest many places
SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 34d
I've heard lunch being referred to as dinner in Canada as well.
Apparently it's a thing throughout the English speaking world. According to Wikipedia, "dinner" means largest and most formal meal of the day.
Apparently elites started having dinner later and later in the day, while the working class continued to have dinner at midday. So it'll tend to be working class people that will refer to "lunch" as "dinner".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dinner
That fits my experience with the word, I've only ever heard working class people say "dinner" to mean "lunch". I can't recall ever hearing an upper class person use the word dinner in this way.
So it's not a strictly Australian thing, it's a working class thing
Agent641@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 34d
Interesting, I did not know that. These people were farmers, so it tracks that they would have their big meal at midday. They called mid-day meal "Dinner" and their evening meal "Tea"
Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca · 6 pts · 33d
I suppose hot chicken broth could be considered a tea?
Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 8 pts · 33d
Careful with that kind of thinking! If you don't watch out, you risk entering Salad Theory territory 😬
MajesticTechie@feddit.uk · 5 pts · 35d
We also say "tea" when referring to gossip.
smeg@feddit.uk · 4 pts · 34d
We most certainly do not, "spill the tea" is a recent American import muscling out the native "spill the beans" like some linguistic grey squirrel
NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone · 2 pts · 34d
If you spill tea in England your head could end up on Tower Hill sans your body.
baltakatei@sopuli.xyz · 3 pts · 33d
When Ringo Starr told me that a goat ate the Fat Controller's hat for tea, I knew something was up.
buffaloupperclass@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 33d
glitch1985@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 33d
While you sit on your tuffit?
HertzDentalBar@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 33d
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chiliedogg@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 33d
Buffalo.
stringere@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 33d
Watermelon.
regdog@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 33d
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