This is the follow-up post from https://lemmy.world/post/50041395
Edit: this crazy bitch got banned from multiple airlines. https://www.joemygod.com/2026/08/airline-bans-sky-evangelist-for-annoying-passengers/
This is the crazy 'Christian' lady, highjacking a plane to do an unsolicited cermon, being kicked off
https://streamin.link/v/f7288e2f
256 Comments
shads@leminal.space · 195 pts · 3d
Would be amusing to see the look on her face if a Muslim sat next to her on a plane and started preaching. Or a Hindu. Or a Christian from a different sect.
All these special snowflakes need to fuck right off and let the rational people live their lives in peace.
Limonene@lemmy.world · 68 pts · 3d
If I see this on a plane, I'm preaching the gospel of Linux even louder.
shads@leminal.space · 43 pts · 3d
And verily he said unto the assembled flock: "I use Arch by the way!" and there was much rolling of eyes and snorts of derision from the unbelievers.
Slashme@lemmy.world · 22 pts · 3d
"Ed is the standard text editor."
Ed, the greatest WYGIWYG editor of all.
ED IS THE TRUE PATH TO NIRVANA! ED HAS BEEN THE CHOICE OF EDUCATED AND IGNORANT ALIKE FOR CENTURIES! ED WILL NOT CORRUPT YOUR PRECIOUS BODILY FLUIDS!! ED IS THE STANDARD TEXT EDITOR! ED MAKES THE SUN SHINE AND THE BIRDS SING AND THE GRASS GREEN!!
When I use an editor, I don't want eight extra KILOBYTES of worthless help screens and cursor positioning code! I just want an EDitor!! Not a "viitor". Not a "emacsitor". Those aren't even WORDS!!!! ED! ED! ED IS THE STANDARD!!!
TEXT EDITOR.
When IBM, in its ever-present omnipotence, needed to base their "edlin" on a UNIX standard, did they mimic vi? No. Emacs? Surely you jest. They chose the most karmic editor of all. The standard.
Ed is for those who can remember what they are working on. If you are an idiot, you should use Emacs. If you are an Emacs, you should not be vi. If you use ED, you are on THE PATH TO REDEMPTION. THE SO-CALLED "VISUAL" EDITORS HAVE BEEN PLACED HERE BY ED TO TEMPT THE FAITHLESS. DO NOT GIVE IN!!! THE MIGHTY ED HAS SPOKEN!!!
hardcoreufo@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 3d
I had some Debian pamphlets printed out for when I had a bunch of proselytizers coming by. Some would say we can't take that others would just be like uhhhh thank you. Either way it busted ended up with two pamphlets in the recycle bucket.
Slashme@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 3d
To join the Church of Emacs, you need only pronounce the Confession of the Faith:
Amberskin@europe.pub · 4 pts · 3d
Nah, Sabaton at full volume. The Last Stand, specifically. No religious based complain about that one probably ;)
Danquebec@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 3d
I'd put Slayer to see their reaction.
a_non_monotonic_function@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 2d
Long while back I remember reading a news article about a middle eastern dude who was kicked off a plane because the passengers next to him saw him writing something scary looking.
He was a math researcher.
shads@leminal.space · 1 pts · 2d
Well... I mean... Who knows what sort of crazy demon he was trying to summon with that spell he was writing?
I'm from Australia, that would scare and confuse a number of the locals here too. We are also pretty damn racist.
Just nowhere near as religious.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 2d
any of praying of "pagan gods" always bunches up the panties of evangelicals.
zr0@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 3d
NikkiDimes@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1d
No hate to my Muslim brothers and sisters, but under absolutely no circumstances would I recommend preaching Islam on an airplane...
shads@leminal.space · 2 pts · 1d
I hear what you are saying, but that's a matter of perspective. I tend to be no more or less scared of Muslims than I am Christians. Talk to a lot of people in South East Asian and they can tell you some tales that don't make mainstream news about Buddhists. I'm sure there's a bunch of lore out there covering Hindus as well.
NikkiDimes@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1d
Oh 100%, there are fanatics in literally any organized groups of human beings. That said, my previous comment was but a shallow poke at the fact that Americans are probably going to assume anyone preaching Islam on their plane is a terrorist.
shads@leminal.space · 1 pts · 1d
Yeah I know. Sorry to have stepped on your... Joke isn't the right word... Social commentary?
stumu415@lemmy.zip · 171 pts · 4d
And of course she's the victim. I hate these people to the core.
smegger@aussie.zone · 61 pts · 3d
It's always the demons when people disagree. Spiritual warfare. All that cliche crap. She had the freedom to speak, but not the freedom from consequences. Nobody wants to be stuck in a plane with a religious extremist if any kind.
So yeah I agree 100% I have nothing but hatred for these kinds of people
WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca · 0 pts · 2d
Put them underground.
Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 111 pts · 3d
I hope she's on a no-fly list now.
VitoRobles@lemmy.today · 91 pts · 3d
She is a religious extremist. She should be on the same list as all the others.
philanthropicoctopus@thelemmy.club · 0 pts · 3d
Respectfully, godsplaining is not the same as highjacking a plane. Still annoying as hell though and I'm glad they kicked her off the flight
certified_expert@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2d
Yup, kind of an explosive difference....
kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world · 104 pts · 3d
She knows what she's doing. This is the desired outcome. It's not about preaching the gospel. It's about supporting the narrative that Christians are persecuted, even if you have to deliberately generate the appearance of persecution through ridiculous behavior.
Frenchgeek@lemmy.ml · 13 pts · 3d
The basic door to door proselyting strategy (which has a 0% success rate) to make sure they don't leave the cult, then...
Manticore@lemmy.nz · 25 pts · 3d
Yes. It reinforces the idea that the world is corrupt, fallen, that it won't accept them. That only the cult will accept them. It reinforces the separation of cult and world, and makes cult the only attainable form of community.
Community is the cult's greatest weapon. Gangs, religions, the manosphere, neo-Nazi... so many groups work by finding the isolated and disempowered, offering them a community that will adopt them (conditionally). Isolated people swallow the conditions readily in order to have a community, even an unhealthy one. Humans are social creatures.
Getting your members to do behaviours you know will see them rejected (like door-knocking) reinforces the indoctrination that only your cult can offer community. Even if they have doubts or discomfort, they won't leave.
Zannsolo@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 3d
In my wayward youth I was heavily into church and went to a conference where you went to classes about evangelising and apologetics (arguing your beliefs) and then approaching people out in public to talk about Jesus. The success rate is low but it's not zero.
Some of my strongest convictions against Christianity come from learning they told flat out lies in the apologetics classes and used lots of logical fallicies.
Bongo_Stryker@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 2d
When I read your post I heard Stewie Griffin in my head say "Flat out lies and logical fallacies? Well you don't say!"
WoodScientist@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2d
I think a good way to handle these might be to get everyone on the plane to start chanting "troll" in unison at her. By doing so:
kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2d
I agree with all but point 2. She'd salivate at having an entire plane "persecuting" her. Looking like the victimized minority in a society against you is the fiction that these morons are trying to portray. They want to feel like that last few good Christians in a world turned against them while ignoring that the vast majority of our society believe more or less the same shit as them or at the very least, treat Christianity as the default in the US culturally.
crazycraw@crazypeople.online · 95 pts · 3d
employees handled that professionally. bless them.
Winning@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 3d
Way too professional imo. They just invite the same behavior. Toss her off the plane halfway through the trip.
Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 0 pts · 3d
You got me in the first half, ngl.
buddascrayon@lemmy.world · 72 pts · 3d
You want to know why people feel unsafe with a religious zealot on board an airplane? It's because in 2001 religious zealots hijacked three planes and murdered thousands of people and terrorize the entire nation.
Fuck religion
dustyData@lemmy.world · 45 pts · 3d
People don't call them Y'all qaeda for nothing. US Christians want what the theocratic system of Islam promises.
Enkrod@feddit.org · 14 pts · 3d
Becky Fisher, "Jesus Camp"
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 3d
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 2d
talabangicals, a-holes with casseroles,
AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world · 21 pts · 3d
Four planes. One of the planes' passengers just found out what was going on, and forced the plane to crash in PA
LaunchesKayaks@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 3d
I can't imagine being the passenger that made that decision.
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 9 pts · 3d
They all made the decision together.
Bytemeister@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 2d
The audio transcript of a call one of the passengers on flight 93 made is both chilling, and a testament of their courage in the face of almost certain death.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Let%27s_roll
Ironically, he also recited the lord's prayer in the same call, but I don't think anyone would complain in that situation.
phoenixz@lemmy.ca · 6 pts · 3d
Well technically they were trying to regain control and the hijacking pilot then crashed the plane, but yeah
hovercat@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 13 pts · 3d
See, it's different because they were brown religious zealots, which are the bad kind.
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 6 pts · 3d
My imaginary friend is real, yours isn't, so you deserve to die.
Bytemeister@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 2d
Four planes. Two hit the twin towers, one hit the pentagon, and another crashed into a field in Pennsylvania, presumably on the way to the Whitehouse.
dsilverz@catodon.rocks · 4 pts · 3d
Beware not to conflate the thousand, likely million, different religions and belief systems that existed and exist worldwide for Abrahamic religions.
Have you ever saw some Luciferian practitioner going door-to-door preaching the words of the Lightbringer?
Have you ever saw Wiccan priestesses hijacking an airplane to try and convert people to Goddess Hekate?
Have you ever saw some Umbanda's Mãe de Santo yelling Laroyê Exu out loud?
Maybe some Thelemite trying to make people to read Liber Al Vel Legis, or some Hermetist trying to shove The Kybalion onto people's throats?
Me neither.
Similar thing goes with my Lilith-centered belief. My religious practices are mostly between me and Her, and whenever I do something public (devotional art, carving of sigils/seals, etc), it's never directed at "converting others".
So, again, beware not to conflate "religion" with the Abrahamic ones. Or you risk becoming the very kind of "religious zealot" you swore to be against.
!crazyfuckingvideos@lemmy.world
Enkrod@feddit.org · 7 pts · 2d
Every acceptance of superstition lays the groundwork for a belief in the supernatural. Every Homeopathy-Karen, every Wicca-Hippie, while peaceful and harmless in and of themselves provides the fertile ground on which a bigger misconception of reality can grow.
Should you be able to have your own beliefs and worship as you please as long as you don't intrude on the rights of others?
Absolutely
But should society consider every expression of unfounded belief a failure of education in critical thinking? Yes.
Supernatural thinking and superstition are fundamentally at odds with a congruent model of reality, they are infectious memes and can fester into extremism if left unchecked. Not necessarily in the individual but absolutely on a societal scale.
The Wiccan priestess, the Luciferian practitioner, the Thelemite are not the Hijackers but they absolutely are the grains of sand that in their totality create the wandering dunes that ever so slowly swallow civilizations. Do we say "fuck that grain of sand in particular"? No, but nonetheless we fight the dunes.
buddascrayon@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 3d
Do not confuse spiritual belief with religion. Religion by its very definition is fanaticism.
Microtonal_Banana@lemmy.zip · 57 pts · 3d
Performative victimhoood.
braxy29@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2d
yeah, i noticed the darvo. she's trying to manipulate and confuse everyone around her.
HeyJoe@lemmy.world · 55 pts · 4d
Talking about persecution. Shes never been persecuted a day in her life I gaurentee.
Slashme@lemmy.world · 55 pts · 3d
Help! Help! I'm being oppressed!
Come and see the violence inherent in the system!
flandish@lemmy.world · 27 pts · 3d
to be fair to that scene, the scene holds more truth than this dumb lady ever could. don’t besmirch is anarcho-syndicalists like that. 😂
Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works · 54 pts · 4d
The look on the steward's face said it all really.
Just determined to be a victim.
desmosthenes@lemmy.world · 52 pts · 3d
probably voted trump
ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.world · 46 pts · 3d
Oh you know for sure she did.
Fundy Karen there definitely believes he's Jesus reincarnated.
Tikiporch@lemmy.world · -52 pts · 3d
I can't tell for sure but she looks somewhat attractive. I guarantee she thinks she's attractive. And people who think they're attractive don't vote. They think they live in a different world and aren't effected by such matters.
Warl0k3@lemmy.world · 43 pts · 3d
... The hell?
Tikiporch@lemmy.world · -17 pts · 3d
I don't know what else to tell you. Most people don't vote, but no vain person is standing in line for two hours.
Warl0k3@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 3d
How on earth did you get such a jaded and bitter outlook?
Tikiporch@lemmy.world · -7 pts · 3d
I once had to stand in line to vote for six hours.
Warl0k3@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 3d
And that turned you into an incel?
Tikiporch@lemmy.world · -6 pts · 3d
This has nothing to do with gender, but very intriguing that you would go there.
TrickDacy@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 3d
Bizarre
Tikiporch@lemmy.world · -18 pts · 3d
Not really. Are you telling me vain people have a great sense of civic pride?
dream_weasel@sh.itjust.works · 15 pts · 3d
I'm pretty and I vote. 🤷
Tikiporch@lemmy.world · -13 pts · 3d
I don't think feeling pretty is the same as being vain, though.
Thank you for voting.
Warl0k3@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 3d
Thinking you're pretty is the same thing as thinking you're attractive, though.
dbtng@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 2d
I'm vain, and I vote.
You've been called out thoroughly here. Accept it. You're wrong.
As well as being vain, I also say stupid shit on the internet. I find it's a better practice to laugh and shrug it off when my bullshit goes awry.
Tikiporch@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 2d
Called out? OK, now I am definitely laughing and shrugging it off. Thanks for that.
TrickDacy@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 3d
I'm telling you that you have a weird hangup, probably rooted in jealousy. There's no reason for anyone to think civic engagement is in any way coupled with "vanity".
Tikiporch@lemmy.world · -7 pts · 3d
It's not a hangup, just an observation. You don't have to agree, and I'm not saying it's the fucking law that vain people can't vote.
But they don't. If they can't take a selfie in the voting booth then it ain't gonna happen buddy.
TrickDacy@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 3d
This is a classic hangup. There's literally no possible way you could know this, but you're certain of it. Not only that, but you brought it up when it had nothing to do with anything. Kinda a sign you're fixated on the idea.
Tikiporch@lemmy.world · -7 pts · 3d
Eh. I'm just interested in human psychology, so while you think it had "nothing to do with anything" to you, it did have meaning to me. And it's preposterous to think there's no way to know how human psychology is reflected at the ballot box.
I mean I only made an observation, but it's not like it has no basis in reality. I just think it makes intuitive sense to conclude that individuals who are highly self-absorbed wouldn't necessarily care about a collective, relatively anonymous civic duty like voting. Vain people probably love the *stage *of politics, but they are far less interested in the *chore *of voting.
So I'm not saying vain people AS A WHOLE skip elections. In fact I think the opposite there, that they are likely to be much more vocal in the political sphere. Narcissistic political participation is largely driven by a desire for a captive audience and public recognition. Activities like protesting, posting on social media, or aggressively debating are highly visible. In contrast, the act of voting in a democratic election is intentionally anonymous. An election ballot offers no audience, no applause, and no opportunity to publicly demonstrate superiority.
So when you isolate the physical, logistical act of **voting **from the rest of the political sphere, the behavior of highly vain or narcissistic individuals trends toward disinterest in the process. Vain individuals often possess a grandiose sense of self-importance and believe their direct intervention is required to fix things. The realization that their single vote carries the exact same mathematical weight as millions of other voters can feel insulting to their sense of authority.
ReluctantZen@feddit.nl · 46 pts · 3d
These types of Christians always immediately jump into some persecution complex once they get some push back. Like it's a sign of the end timds. Real cult behaviour
muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works · 21 pts · 3d
HELP HELP IM BEING
inconveniencedSkunkWorkz@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 2d
Yeah that’s why they do this shit. They are expecting push back so they can scream that they are being discriminate and tell their congregation that the world is against them. It’s all about closing in the group away from the outside world so they can manipulate them even further. It’s all about power over people. Either to extract more money, to stroke their egos, gain political power or to be able to fuck kids.
Jordan117@lemmy.world · 45 pts · 3d
wolfeh@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 7 pts · 3d
Warning: Strings "river" and "sea" found in the same post. User has been banned for antisemitism.
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 44 pts · 3d
It wasn't the message that made people uncomfortable, it was the delusional self-righteous weirdo, who wasn't going to shut up for the next few hours, preaching at people stuck in a tin can with her. A psycho like her, who thinks death is her big beginning, is capable of anything.
ReluctantZen@feddit.nl · 13 pts · 3d
Idk, preaching that you're going to hell if you don't accept Jesus isn't particularly nice to hear
Bytemeister@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 2d
Historically, religious zelots praising God on a plane has not ended well...
phoenixz@lemmy.ca · 13 pts · 3d
All true, but the message itself is also quite uncomfortable, really, I don't need to hear that in an airplane or on the street, for that matter.
eestileib@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 3d
Nah I don't like the Christian pitch and find it very hard to sit through.
Thebeardedsinglemalt@lemmy.world · 41 pts · 3d
And this is the kind of person who thinks a gay person existing is shoving their lifestyle choices down our throats
eestileib@sh.itjust.works · 38 pts · 3d
The stank face he gave her about halfway through is perfect.
fartographer@lemmy.world · 34 pts · 3d
"Talking about Jesus is making people uncomfortable?"
No. YOU are making people uncomfortable. Christianity is not being asked to leave the plane, YOU are. Using blessings to attack people is like using perfume to hide your asshole.
bhamlin@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 2d
Then where am I supposed to put the bottle?
Godric@lemmy.world · 34 pts · 2d
This man is my spirit animal
xorollo@leminal.space · 17 pts · 2d
He did well with "I dont need to answer your questions"
Godric@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 2d
I think his silence in face of derangement spoke louder than that bible-beating lunatic
xorollo@leminal.space · 4 pts · 2d
Indeed
HugeNerd@lemmy.ca · 32 pts · 3d
Separation of church and plane, please.
Nowtayneicangetinto@thelemmy.club · 21 pts · 3d
Separation of church and sane for her
SnarkoPolo@lemmy.world · 29 pts · 2d
Poor downtrodden evangelicals. It's only the dominant religion in the United States, controlling all three branches of government and having a virtual monopoly on media coverage.
Until we all bend the knee, they're just PERSECUTED.
Hazor@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 2d
I went to a megachurch as a teenager. The kind with seating for thousands but still had two Sunday morning service times because everybody couldn't fit into one.
The preacher loved to talk about how Christians are a persecuted minority.
Treczoks@lemmy.world · 28 pts · 3d
Send her to me. I know the scriptures well enough to talk preachers into a wall with their own book, and I am loud.
Slashme@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 3d
And I can fix her!
kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 3d
"Send her to me". fry_squint I'm gonna say... no...
bold_atlas@lemmy.world · 25 pts · 2d
If this person was Muslim or brown then they'd be dead or handcuffed to gurney in a hospital ICU.
Only white Christians are allowed to do this.
mechoman444@lemmy.world · -22 pts · 2d
This is absolutely completely untrue. Especially since the woman was latino with a Spanish accent.
You know what. People probably don't tell you this enough, but shut the fuck up.
Edit: I fully concede my point on my assumptions concerning her race and accent. That was my own prejudice working against me and I was unable to filter it in this comment. I apologize for my racial sensitivity.
However, I will not concede my point on how absolutely untrue comments statements are about Brown and Muslim people being treated differently in this particular scenario. And I will once again reiterate for that person to shut the fuck up.
GarboDog@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 2d
We cannot vouch if she’s of Latino decent since we’re bad at telling that kind of stuff (she doesn’t look Latino at all, just a typical whit lady to us with a tan), but we can tell that’s very much not a Spanish accent.
Bthest is very much right, especially since Muslim, brown, and various other minorities have been removed from planes for far lesser to even just existing (did you magically forget the fucn racist executive order 13769 Muslim ban on planes they tried pushing in 2017??) no yeah she’s very much privileged and no we also wouldn’t feel safe with her on a plane or anyone else shouting/harassing/disturbing the peace.
We’re not sure if the guy was security or not but him trying to be respectful we’re guessing he either didn’t/couldn’t request security or thought he could handle the situation on his own. Either way there was extreme favoritism towards her being a white Christian (he probably didn’t want to escalate it himself because putting the airline/himself on a Christian hit list is horrible) especially with her trying to escalate the situation several times egging them in to being physical to her or provoking.
In any case tldr your wrong, her religion and skin color were deciding factors in their actions and she’s not Latino nor was that a Spanish accent. Mejor suerte la próxima vez, así que cállate la puta boca. :/
mechoman444@lemmy.world · -4 pts · 1d
I'll concede my original point. I was wrong about her race, nationality, and accent. Looking back, that was my own unchecked prejudice. I made an assumption based on how she looked and spoke, and I shouldn't have. That's on me.
That said, I think you're doing something very similar when you confidently assert that she was treated differently because she was white and Christian. The video doesn't establish that. It's an inference about the motives of the airline staff, not evidence. You're presenting speculation as though it's a proven fact.
As for Executive Order 13769, that isn't really relevant here. It was an executive order signed by Donald Trump restricting entry into the United States from several Muslim-majority countries. It was enormously controversial, challenged in court, and widely criticized as discriminatory. But it was an immigration policy, not a policy directing airlines to remove Muslims from domestic flights. Pointing to an unpopular executive order from an administration that many people already viewed as racially insensitive doesn't demonstrate that race or religion were the deciding factors in this completely separate incident.
If your argument is simply that she should have been removed from the plane sooner because she was causing a disturbance, I can understand that position. But claiming she received preferential treatment because she was white and Christian requires evidence specific to this incident, not assumptions about the motivations of the people involved.
Edit: One more important point, because I think a lot of people get this confused:
The United States is not the Donald Trump administration. There are tens of millions of Americans who do not support what his administration is doing and actively oppose many of its policies, including me.
Please don't take the actions of one administration and attribute them to the American people as a whole. The United States is a nation of over 330 million people with a wide range of political beliefs, and no single administration speaks for every American.
GarboDog@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1d
Not sure how you can say she’s not being treated better when there have been many people arrested/literally dragged/denied access but ok, she more than likely just got into another plane and stfu that time while (again) many others would’ve been banned from that air port or more likely arrested by air port police.
Regardless the full picture isn’t clear due to lack of public evidence except her video (unless the airline made a statement but we’re too lazy to look for it rn, typing this while rewatching one piece lol) so if you want to discuss further on her being escorted as calmly even though she was pointing out she totally didn't have a gun or bomb (that right there is usually an instant tackle) we both would need more evidence on what actually went down with how the airline treated her. But from the video so far yeah she was treated far better than many others along with a long well documented history of other similar incidents (and some we’ve personally experienced like how while working at star bucks we had to kick out anyone soliciting, including religious stuff, however that was not including Christians (we kicked them out anyways idgaf)) it’s hard to believe she was treated as well as Alvin Jackson, Emmanuel Jean Joseph, Xavier Veal and 5 other people of color being kicked off an American Airlines plane with no valid reason, David Dao a Vietnamese physician being physically assaulted and dragged off a United Express plane, two unnamed muslim couple kicked off Delta Airlines, and many others. None of them were being disruptive or even a bother to anyone else and yet they get harassed, dragged out or worse assaulted. Instead they let the lady say her spoil then calmly walked her out while (again) she was trying to initiate confrontation several times. So sorry but we’d have to disagree on her being treated as unfairly as others when there’s a bit of a pattern.
Also yes, Executive Order 13769 was an immigration ban but overall it was treated and implemented as a blanket ban as Muslims and other minorities were affected heavily in usa as well. Damage was literally immediate with families torn apart, people detained for no reason, blocked even state by state as they were still not a citizen yet. So glad they finally stopped this whole charade but it also wasn’t the first time this stuff has happened, it’s been going on since 11/9/2001 (September 11th 2001) with many people being discriminated for being Muslim and/or for religious clothing. But even through it all we can still both easily agree it was super fucked. People needed help and usa was obligated to assist like all other able bodied countries and fail time and time again, calling themselves a nation of immigrants is a joke.
And to your PS: we were born in USA, the system failed us severely. We’ve been discriminated and harassed several time’s by strangers even religious groups for being either disabled or trans. We left USA right before Trump took office literally spending our entire life savings to get here in the EU and holy shit we’ve never felt safer than before. It’s night and day on how much usa has failed. Donald Trump is just everything the USA political powers and 1% was to afraid to say and now what? USA didn’t magically get shit When Trump got into office in 2016 it was already trash. It didn’t get saved when Biden got in it was still held in place in a stand still, and 2024 it definitely got worse since the dirty douche figured out how to fuck everyone over and get paid doing so. Anyone who says USA was great before Trump is privileged.
mechoman444@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 1d
I'll start with Alvin Jackson, Emmanuel Jean Joseph, and Xavier Veal. That case did, in fact, involve racial discrimination by the airline, and it was ultimately settled out of court. Those three men were initially removed from the plane over alleged offensive body odor, but after the situation was reviewed by airline personnel, they were allowed back on board. They were not screaming, yelling, or causing a disturbance. So while that case is real, it has nothing to do with the situation you're describing. More importantly, the people who were removed complied with the crew's instructions. It doesn't lend much support to your argument.
The woman in this case, Whitney Lynn, was banned from flying on all airlines owned by that airline group, which I believe includes three or four carriers. She also wasn't forcibly removed because she complied with the order to leave the aircraft. She may have been loud and belligerent, but she did not physically resist.
As for the executive order, it was not legally considered a blanket ban on Muslims. You're applying that label based on your own interpretation rather than how it was ultimately treated in law.
You're falling into the trap of steering the conversation toward a conclusion you already want to reach, in this case, condemning the Trump administration and portraying the United States as uniquely terrible. That's not what we're discussing here. Racial profiling exists. Not just in the United States, but virtually everywhere. Racist incidents happen in every country. Some receive extensive media coverage; many do not.
I'm well aware of my country's shortcomings. However, the claim that people are generally afraid to walk the streets for their own safety is simply not an accurate description of everyday life in the United States. If believing that helps reinforce your view of America, that's your prerogative. But it doesn't make it true.
NikkiDimes@lemmy.world · 25 pts · 2d
I love it when people pull the "First Amendment" card when a private company decides to refuse to give them service in response to their ridiculousness. Like that's not how any of that works, sorry.
AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 2d
US people completely misinterpreting their constitution. A true classic.
Archangel1313@lemmy.ca · 24 pts · 4d
Death cult worshipper.
terranoid@lemmy.cafe · 5 pts · 3d
He died for your sins
Nailed to a cross, absorbing the sins of all humanity
Now drink his blood and eat his flesh
CHRISTIANITY IS FUCKING METAL
k0e3@lemmy.ca · 22 pts · 3d
Nah it's just stupid.
stumu415@lemmy.zip · 17 pts · 3d
You missed a N in METAL
kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 3d
Primary symbol for religion is a medieval torture device often including the active torture of their messiah. Messiah's zombie corpse walks the earth again after 3 days of decay. Regular ritualistic symbolic cannibalism ceremonies (or actual cannibalism if Catholic or otherwise believe in transubstantiation). The higher ranking the Angel, the more monstrous/eldritch in nature and appearance. God turns rivers to blood and kills thousands of babies in Egypt, and every person and animal on Earth but a single boat in the Flood over personal grievances. Destroy two cities for the crime of being inhospitable to two visiting angels, sparing only the one man, Lot, and his family that show them hospitality, but also murder his wife for the crime of looking upon the destruction by turning her to salt. And also Lot's daughters intoxicated and rape him to have his children.
The Bible is dark, man. And Christians normalize all this shit.
Danquebec@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 3d
The Old Testament stories taken at face value would make good content for death metal.
itsgroundhogdayagain@lemmy.ml · 23 pts · 3d
Yes, this is exactly what will convince me to follow your religion.
axx@slrpnk.net · 29 pts · 3d
They don't care. They want to look good to their ingroup. It's very performative.
Beyond the obvious bad faith (ironically), her sense of entitlement is really incredible. An all-American sense of entitlement.
Zannsolo@lemmy.world · 22 pts · 3d
Her make-up make me feel unsafe, yikes.
eestileib@sh.itjust.works · 21 pts · 3d
"truly, she has received her reward"
Taleya@aussie.zone · 2 pts · 2d
I appricate the matthew quote, but given she didn't get a tazer up the arsehole i question the "reward in full"
mrmisses@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 4d
What a punchable face
dreamy@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 18 pts · 3d
Yeah, right. It's not because you're spouting hate on a plane, it's that the DEMONS are out to get you 🤣
1hitsong@lemmy.ml · 18 pts · 2d
"Businesses have the right to refuse to do business with whomever they choose."
"...no, not like that!"
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 18 pts · 3d
Let me guess who she votes for.
Mr_Wobble@thelemmy.club · 17 pts · 4d
I hope they didn't go through all the trouble of landing the plane first.
rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 50 pts · 3d
Unfortunately, the cabin pressure differential is so high that the only way to open the door midflight is to be on a Boeing
wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 3d
Boeing: oh so now you want me, huh?
VoodooAardvark@lemmy.zip · 17 pts · 4d
jesus fucking christ - what an intolerable and inconsiderate human - if anyone is voluntarily associated with this person (read: not family who is obligated to maintain at least a weak relationship with them) I immediately judge them as being just as intolerable, ignorant, and entitled as this silly fuck.
BigMacHole@thelemmy.club · 16 pts · 2d
Look at the GAY person FORCING their Beliefs on Others!
-Free Thinking Republicans!
feddylemmy@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 2d
(Holds hands in public)
OH MY GOD LOOK AT THEM PUSHING THEIR AGENDA ON ME
zr0@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 16 pts · 3d
Just to quote Jimmy Carr: “If you have met three arseholes before noon, you are the arsehole”
Trex202@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 3d
Cue hyena laugh
Glytch@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 3d
Depends on when you wake up
Wispy2891@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 3d
She seems to enjoy this, but the fix is very simple: lifetime ban from that particular airline. How many airlines can she continue to fly, then?
HugeNerd@lemmy.ca · 10 pts · 3d
I think the fix is easier: test her faith. Toss her out at altitude. Prayer works, right?
Bytemeister@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2d
Can't really get the doors open at altitude. Test her faith by kicking her off the plane on the ground, and see if god gets her to her destination on schedule.
HugeNerd@lemmy.ca · 0 pts · 2d
I understand but my way is more entertaining.
abigscaryhobo@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 2d
I didn't know they sized hoop earrings based on entitlement
SnarkoPolo@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 2d
She's not supposed to be wearing adornments anyway.
arc99@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 3d
Stupid bitch deserves to be invited to never fly that airline again. And for each and subsequent airline or other form of transport she tries it with.
NikkiDimes@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 2d
God, I hope she gets banned from ever buying a plane ticket again and realizes what a dumbass she is.
Treczoks@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2d
Preferrably when she was just dropped off the plane in the middle of nowhere.
raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 2d
OnlyFans coming in in 3, 2, 1...
Treczoks@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2d
Well, she is a cunt, so this would be the right place.
Spaceballstheusername@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2d
Unfortunately she'll probably go on the Christian go fund me and get a ton of money.
SnarkoPolo@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2d
Some dude must pop a boner over Christian girls with horse face.
olenkoVD@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 10 pts · 3d
Uuuhhh yeah it's called "freedom of speech" and not proselytism I'm sooo sure about that
DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 2d
I'm sure there were many believers on that plane, and not one of them stood up to support her. That says a lot.
Redvenom@retrolemmy.com · 2 pts · 2d
even if you are a believer, nobody should support that behavior, don't be a douche
Avicenna@programming.dev · 10 pts · 3d
alternative scenario, she sits next to a muslim who is loudly praying "EXCUSE ME FLIGHT ATTENDANT THIS PERSON IS A SUICIDE BOMBER".
She is probably just grifting to get into politics or adjacent.
buddascrayon@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 3d
Not probably grifting. This is the grift. She is trying to develop a following of religious extremists who believe that if you are not a Jesus freak then you are evil. And there is nothing Jesus freaks love more than cosplaying as an oppressed minority.
NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 3d
You are very correct. This is her job. This is the face of her non-profit organization.
https://search.sunbiz.org/Inquiry/CorporationSearch/SearchResultDetail?inquirytype=EntityName&directionType=ForwardList&searchNameOrder=EVANGELISTWHITNEYLYNN+N250000006060&aggregateId=domnp-n25000000606-151d10e6-ed3f-4f37-b5c5-42e8c8ebc1c6&searchTerm=EVAN+MUYS+VOLLEYBALL+CAMPS+LLC&listNameOrder=EVANGELISTREVIVALCENTER+N436640
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 2d
shes pretty late to the game, there already too many of them, she will be competing with faux talking heads(like ingraham, gaines, likely fulnecky) and then on the circuit: owens, and others.
Treczoks@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 2d
I hope the other airlines follow suit. Imagine her being in Hawaii and being stuck with no plane out there.
FistingEnthusiast@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 2d
It seems that she has been banned from a few airlines now
Of course, this just feeds her victim mentality, but at least it keeps her away from other people
Treczoks@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1d
Maybe there is a list of preferrable airlines, I.e. the ones that banned her.
lastlybutfirstly@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 2d
She's like, "I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I thought this was America!"
Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 7 pts · 3d
Impeccable professionalism of the steward whilst safely removing this dangerous nutter from the plane even in the face of all her mentally deranged discourse.
Sharkticon@lemmy.zip · 7 pts · 3d
Aren't there some pretty strict laws about taking control of an airplane like that?
modus@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2d
Sky piracy.
Generica@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 2d
Her self-righteous public disturbance is a hate crime against non-Christians and even non-evangelical Christians.
Raiderkev@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 2d
Man, the whole time waiting for her to get physically removed. Booo
mechoman444@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 2d
Let her finish then I'd stand up and start preaching the other side from Satan's point of view.
wolfeh@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 6 pts · 3d
I have many words to describe that person, most of which I'll keep to myself.
stumu415@lemmy.zip · 6 pts · 2d
In good news: this crazy bitch got banned from multiple airlines. https://www.joemygod.com/2026/08/airline-bans-sky-evangelist-for-annoying-passengers/
UselessAsshole@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 3d
"Modern prophet just as irritating, unnecessary as ancient ones, says other passengers."
phoenixz@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 3d
More infuriating, I'd say, because they learned how to he better at being horrible. This bitch, for example, waits for people to all be stuck together with no option to leave, and THEN she starts her delusional nonsense
ace_garp@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 3d
B a n h a m m e r
It's super effective!
nexguy@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 3d
I think next time I get on a plane I'm going to get up and start a talk about this really weird dream I had a few nights ago. It should only take about an hour or so. What, I can't do that? People will be annoyed? What about freedom of speech? Hey everyone we can no longer talk anymore to people who are a captive audience and can't leave to get away from our bullshit.
Kcap@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 3d
Please, I'd give anything for it to be the last days of these people.
swiftywizard@discuss.tchncs.de · 5 pts · 2d
Looks like this woman is trying to create a more or less believable reason to create content that is built around her public disturbances.
resipsaloquitur@lemmy.cafe · 4 pts · 3d
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdi9F5_-f9k
Sgt_choke_n_stroke@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 2d
Always a victim of "spiritual warfare" grow up.
It's as dumb as "war on Christmas"
xorollo@leminal.space · 2 pts · 2d
It sounded like when she started that sentence even she wasn't sure how it was going to end.
Hikermick@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 2d
One of them starts preaching on the plane I'm on and I'll go pentacostal on their ass. Scream "I'm saved!" and start speaking in tongues. Hallelujah!
WoodScientist@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2d
I would just shout loudly implying they're a pedophile. Anyone pushing Jesus this hard is trying to cover up something extremely dark about themselves.
Treczoks@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 2d
So she filmed this and probably put it on her web site. How about those people on the plane that she probably never asked to be filmed? Hopefully, at least some of them sue her to kingdom come.
NoodlePoint@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 2d
How disruptive this silly woman is. Not all the time they can preach anywhere they please.
aesthelete@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 3d
Wooooooow wooooooow
Unpigged@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 3d
Glen Benton has a message, too.
tgcoldrockn@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 4d
Nutter butter.
ouRKaoS@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 2d
And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by others.
--Matthew 6:5
Can't even follow her own book...
SoGrumpy@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 3d
You can talk about jesus all you want and as loud as you want, in the privacy of your own toilet. If you are in my presence, just as a sign of respect, keep your damn mouth tightly sealed. Thank you.
Widdershins@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 3d
Where is the Burger King crown guy when and where he's really needed?
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 0 pts · 2d
almost always a white lady doing this.
Bluedragon012@lemmy.world · -7 pts · 2d
Glad I wasn't there, she'd be in a body bag.
boonhet@sopuli.xyz · 7 pts · 2d
/r/iamverybadass
Do we have a Lemmy equivalent yet?
It's a super quick way to end up on a no-fly list. Even outside of the plane, which sane person attacks someone physically just for spreading a message they don't like?
bold_atlas@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2d
Based anti-fascists do.
Bluedragon012@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 2d
If she is doing this, just imagine what awfulness they are doing outside of the plane, the world would not miss them. It's not what she is is spreading. I dont give a damn if they worship a false God. But interrupting a peaceful flight, unforgivable sin. they'd get a warning. Then choke hol if they refused. Then staff can take us both of the plane. Im not bad ass, I'm broken and angry and no ammount of therapy can fix it.
Mulligrubs@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 2d
You'd murder somebody on a plane for being annoying with proselytizing?
You're more dangerous than she is (and I agree with her being removed from the plane), seek help
stevles@aussie.zone · 2 pts · 2d
TIL proselytizing is a word!
mojofrododojo@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2d
crazy assholes bring out the worst in everyone.
Bluedragon012@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 2d
Am getting help. Still want her dead. I'd give her a warning first. If they back down and stop. They live.
unknownuserunknownlocation@kbin.earth · -15 pts · 3d
Did she actually highjack the plane? Going from the video it sounds like a bit of a hyperbole.
EDIT: Jesus fuck, no one actually provided anything to the contrary, just downvoted. Almost proving what I said elsewhere about lemmy's toxicity...
Transparent_knoll@awful.systems · 4 pts · 3d
The term hijack has more uses than just describing the physical act of taking control of a vehicle by force. The use in the title matches the 2nd definition given here (example A specifically)
unknownuserunknownlocation@kbin.earth · 1 pts · 2d
She seems to have hijacked/taken control of the passengers' attention. She didn't take control of the plane. Very, very important difference.
dbtng@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 2d
Downvote for bitching about toxicity.
BussyGyatt@feddit.org · -2 pts · 3d
your surmise is correct
hakase@lemmy.zip · -2 pts · 3d
Lemmy's usual terrible information hygeine.
victorz@lemmy.world · -32 pts · 3d
Definitely seems highly exaggerated. She looks so calm and collected, not screaming or making a fuss. She complied immediately. Seems a bit rash to throw her off the plane, just going off of this video. 🤨
Edit: bruh, I know she was probably disruptive before this, this is her own video after all, so she's acting right for her own shoot.
I'm on you guys' side lol.
Piatro@programming.dev · 30 pts · 3d
Remember that we're only seeing the part AFTER the crew decided to intervene and remove her from the plane. We don't see what she did to trigger this response.
victorz@lemmy.world · -10 pts · 3d
Yeah, that's why I said "just going off of this video". I can imagine she was being disruptive before this, especially since this seems to be her own video. I imagine she's acting goody when she is recording herself.
Thank you for the sane response instead of just down voting or cursing me out. Appreciate it. ❤️
Edit: lol, I'm agreeing with you, but still people are down voting. Makes no sense. 😆 Very Reddit moment.
javiwhite@feddit.uk · 8 pts · 3d
So you realise the crew are privy to all of the buildup, which makes the following statements questionable:
.
This comes across as you insinutating there's no pretense, and that she's the victim; which is presumably why you were downvoted.
I'm not saying that was or wasn't your intent, just letting you know how it reads. There definitely are scenarios where people are unfairly ejected from flights, but this doesn't seem to be one of those situations, based on recent news shared.
victorz@lemmy.world · -7 pts · 3d
Alright. Yeah, no, I'm definitely only intending for my message to convey only what my words are saying. Using words like "seems", etc. Please don't read into it what isn't there. 👍
javiwhite@feddit.uk · 7 pts · 3d
Ah so everyone else is the problem? There's an old saying for that mate. "When you smell something everywhere you go, check your own shoes".
victorz@lemmy.world · -4 pts · 3d
I didn't say that, no. Again you are putting words in my mouth. Please don't do that.
Slashme@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 3d
She was preaching to the other passengers and refused to sit down and shut up. That's a perfectly good reason to kick someone off a flight.
Visstix@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 3d
Yeah definitely not making a fuss...... Lol fuck off.
victorz@lemmy.world · -9 pts · 3d
Hey, please, no need to get hostile with me. I didn't do anything to you. Thanks.
ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net · -22 pts · 2d
Edit: I see people are confused and I can see why. I was talking about this post: https://lemmy.world/post/50117911
Jiral@lemmy.world · 28 pts · 2d
A plane is a plane, with etiquette rules, not a debate podium. If you can't behave in a way that doesn't lead to delays in flight and makes the day of the attends hard, that is a you problem.
Adulated_Aspersion@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 2d
You can preach whatever BS you want on a street corner. I am not a captive audience, and I can walk right by.
In a jet, I am unable to merely leave.
I dont care what you want to preach. Find a different place to spew your vitriol.
ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net · -16 pts · 2d
https://lemmy.world/post/50117911
Just so it's clear: I don't support IDF. I'm saying that a country has the same right to apply their rules as an airline. I'm still perfectly aware that this will get downvoted to hell because lemmings don't like it when leftist speech is suppressed but love when right-wing speech is and will not admit it.
PrettyFlyForAFatGuy@feddit.uk · 9 pts · 2d
I dont get it, did he delay a plane?
Did he start preaching to a captive audience who werent able to leave?
ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net · -9 pts · 2d
So you think delaying a plane is the only rule around speech that exists in the world? No other laws exist?
Or are you only able to compare exactly identical situations?
Doesn't really matter. I know everyone will now be playing "find 100 differences" with those two situations bringing up one irrelevant thing after another while completely missing the only thing that matters: in both cases it was legal to suppress speech, lemmy reacted differently because in one case they agree with the speaker and in the other case they don't.
PrettyFlyForAFatGuy@feddit.uk · 2 pts · 2d
No, I think bob vylen or whatever his name is keeps his speech to his shows and the media and doesn't subject unwilling people to his opinions when they have no escape.
You don't get to stand on your soapbox on other peoples dime, if you're holding up a plane taking off it doesn't matter if you're doing it by speaking your mind or taking a shit in the isle. The airline has the right to kick you the fuck off
ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net · -4 pts · 2d
Yep, another irrelevant difference. Exactly as predicted. Thanks.
rezifon@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2d
What an asinine response. Of course the other commenter does not think this. Nobody does.
jaemo@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 2d
Hmm. You should probably go back to lisp. Don't take this personally but you're objectively, measurably wretched at the hot takes gig.
ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net · 0 pts · 2d
👍
mojofrododojo@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2d
Matthew 6:5 New International Version
“And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by others."
ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net · 0 pts · 2d
I'm perfectly fine with you citing bible here.
mojofrododojo@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2d
Yet she multiplied her promiscuity, remembering the days of her youth, when she had prostituted herself in the land of Egypt and lusted after their lovers, whose genitals were like those of donkeys and whose emission was like that of stallions. So you revisited the indecency of your youth, when the Egyptians caressed your bosom and pressed your young breasts.…
mojofrododojo@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2d
calling this a free speech issue is disgusting and you know it.
ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net · -1 pts · 2d
Which one of those?
mojofrododojo@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 2d
OK I'LL SPELL IT OUT IN SMALL WORDS SO MAYBE YOU CAN COMPREHEND:
YOU DO NOT HAVE THE FREEDOM TO BOTHER PEOPLE ON THE PLANE.
simple enough? fucks sake. how would you feel if someone started a call to pray for Mohammed? would you sit there quietly while they did their thing?
no you fucking wouldn't
ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net · 0 pts · 2d
Dude, chilax. I'm not saying this lady should be allowed to preach on a plane. I'm saying the airline has the right to remove her and Germany has the right not to let in people that chant “Death, death to the IDF,” Lemmy reacted differently to both post.
Now you will start looking for differences between those situations but you will fail to prove that one was legal and the other wasn't. The only difference will be that you like one speaker but not the other.
mojofrododojo@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 2d
Dude, get fucked.
you're confusing unrelated things in order to make a futile point because
these aren't related in any way shape or form. it's completely 'legal' and logical to shut this shrieking hag down on the air plane, and it's still hypocritical of germany to censor speech critical of israel. these things aren't connected in any way.
you're just full of garbage
Jiral@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1d
This has nothimg to do with left or right. Bringing Jesus' actual teaching is if anything leftist itself What this is about is that one passengers violated the terms of service of the airline, was obnoxious towards others caused a delay in flight operations and made the work for the flight crew just that much harder for egoistic self centred reasons. If someone had done the same while preaching the socialist revolution my ooinion on it would be very much the same.
ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net · 1 pts · 1d
Have you clicked the link? We both agree that anyone preaching anything in a plane should be removed. What about the other story? Is stopping pro-Palenstinian artists who was chanting "Death to IDF" from entering Germany a violation of his free speech rights or not?
Jiral@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1d
Calling for death is not a right in Germany, is it?
ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net · 1 pts · 1d
Yes, so we agree both decisions are legal and valid. Yet lemmings are mad about one decision and not the other. Hence my meme.
Spaceballstheusername@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 2d
It's the venue that everyone has a problem with. You can't be serious with this post right.
BigMacHole@thelemmy.club · 6 pts · 2d
DEPORTING someone From a country is the EXACT same Thing as KICKING someone Off a Plane!
-You!
ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net · -2 pts · 2d
Completely missing the point.
Duamerthrax@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2d
You're reducing both situations and loosing any nuance to make your point.
ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net · 1 pts · 1d
It's because I'm not making a point about the nuances.
Duamerthrax@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1d
I can use your same argument to say that apples and oranges are the exact same fruit.
ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net · 1 pts · 1d
You can definitely use both apples and oranges to make a point about fruits.
mojofrododojo@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2d
haha did they hurt your feefees when the religious bitch got escorted off the airpwane?
ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net · -2 pts · 2d
No, if you keep reading you will realize it's actually the other way around.
mojofrododojo@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2d
Wow, what a sad little man