[SOLVED] is LTT a good channel?

CONCLUSION: I will stop watching them since all of these alligations and "false?" hardware testing makes me not wanna support them. Even if most of them aren't true, i don't want to risk it

ive heard some mixed things about ltt so i want to know if theyre actually bad or not

and im not watching them for linux help, i just like the content, but i also dont want to support a bad person

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flamingo_pinyata@sopuli.xyz · 89 pts · 6d (5 replies)

"Quality clickbait" is the best description I have.

It's an entertaining channel, prone to reviewing flashy stuff, rather than useful tips as the name might suggest. But not completely stupid, those guys have some knowledge and skills to back it up.

I can't say how it changed over time, I've only watched them occasionally over the last 2-3 years.

Katherine1@midwest.social · 22 pts · 6d (2 replies)

That about sums then up. They have been on a streak promoting Linux, which is pretty great since they are a bigger channel. Are they perfect? No, but they are helping get new users into Linux.

SatyrSack@quokk.au · 6 pts · 6d (1 reply)

I remember making the choice to just stop watching any Linux-focused videos from that channel. They always just tended to frustrate me. But, as I understand, the main host has started to really enjoy Linux lately due to the Steam Machine. Have their Linux videos improved at all due to that?

LincolnsDogFido@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 5d

I can't say that what your take on their Linux videos is wrong, but they had valid concerns and call outs. Their problems are reproducible and are things that would have kept me away from Linux before they were addressed. He genuinely wants Linux to succeed so by bringing attention to problems he had, it helped prioritize friction from switching. Now that he has had much fewer issues with daily driving Linux, he found himself wanting to actively avoid going back to windows. Who knows if that would have been the case if he didnt help spotlight Linux friction points.

blartcap_@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 11 pts · 6d

They're basically filling in that market for entry level tech knowledge and enthusiasts that used to be occupied by CNET and Tom's Hardware when written articles were king.

goofsqueak@lemdro.id · 6 pts · 6d

i guess thats fine, i just dont wanna support bad peeps

bl4ckp1xx13@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 60 pts · 6d (39 replies)

I used to watch them, but overtime they've become super corporate with none of the authenticity of the older videos; and also basically everyone I used to watch for has left.

Then there was the whole situation with the sexual harrasment stuff that just put the final nail in the coffin for me.

Every time it appears now in my feed its just so clearly clickbait view slop with no personality. They haven't done anything like the large-scale projects like they used to in a long time.

bl4ckp1xx13@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 30 pts · 6d (24 replies)

Also, their attitude towards Linux has always been unncecessarily hostile; with Linus refusing to respect that he has to learn how to use a different operating system and just treating it like Windows which will naturally lead to instability and crashes.

If you were to treat macOS like Windows the same would happen too.

Estebiu@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 20 pts · 6d (1 reply)

Hes been using for about 3 months, if I remember correctly

Estebiu@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 25 pts · 6d

And they've been pumping out weekly linux videos, I think, so that helps draw attention too

hirihit640@sh.itjust.works · 17 pts · 6d (19 replies)

To be fair the last time I saw Linus try linux, he tried to install steam and the package manager removed the entire desktop environment. This was PopOS, and PopOS clarified in the comments that Linus just so happened to be making the video when there was a big bug in their system. So I don't fault Linus for being a bit put off

eleijeep@piefed.social · 9 pts · 6d (14 replies)

It gave him a very visible warning that this will break his system and only to proceed if you know what you're doing. He pressed yes I know what I'm doing and purged all of the desktop environment packages. You would get the same result on any operating system by disregarding a warning like that.

Eyck_of_denesle@lemmy.zip · 9 pts · 6d (2 replies)

But that should've never happened. He did say very clearly that he isn't going into the challenge as a tech savvy dude but as a naive enter smashing user. That was completely on pop os for even suggesting the option.

PabloSexcrowbar@piefed.social · 5 pts · 5d (1 reply)

As I recall, it was a transient packaging bug that was fixed within an hour of it occurring, well before the video even aired.

hirihit640@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 5d
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Fierro@piefed.social · 4 pts · 6d

I've been told a thousand times that linux and linux gaming were finally easy before getting in, not in a thousand years would I have thought installing steam would kill my whole linux installation.

Just my two cents. Also I've learned that linux people tend to lie through their teeth so I never take them too seriously, the same people that get angry when you criticize linux for difficulty or weirdness will crucify you for installing steam in the exact moment a once in a lifetime bug you couldn't predict (as a newcomer) kills your os.

hirihit640@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 5d (9 replies)

If you gave a scrolling wall of terminal text to the average PC user and then asked "yes or no", they will just say "yes". The point of Linus's video was "is Linux ready for mainstream", so his actions were fair imo. Linux users forget how simple using a PC is (or at least was) on Windows and Mac.

You would get the same result on any operating system by disregarding a warning like that.

When does Windows or MacOS allow you to purge your desktop environment? They would simply not install the software. They wouldn't give you the option to break your PC in the first place

somenonewho@feddit.org · 3 pts · 5d (8 replies)

If you gave a scrolling wall of terminal text to the average PC user and then asked "yes or no", they will just say "yes".

As much as Linus tries to claim it whenever he fucks up in Linux, he is NOT the average PC User. Yes he is a Windows power user foremost but a lot of knowledge and concepts translate broadly. For example: if you get a warning you have to read it before pressing yes like a monkey.

I agree what happened to Linus should not have happened, but the fact that Linux distros just let you shoot yourself in the foot like that is part of the freedom Linux offers.
"You wanna remove THAT? Sure go ahaead" in this case they even put in a "You sure you wann do that? This will break things"

Don_alForno@feddit.org · 2 pts · 5d (6 replies)

For example: if you get a warning you have to read it before pressing yes like a monkey.

And with this attitude you are already far out of "average pc user" territory.

somenonewho@feddit.org · 1 pts · 5d

Which is my point exactly:

As much as Linus tries to claim it whenever he fucks up in Linux, he is NOT the average PC User.

hirihit640@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 5d

I mean not all distros need to do that. Immutable distros will not let you break them like that

blartcap_@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 6d (1 reply)

They redid that challenge and it went much differently. In fact, Linus may now be a Linux convert.

hirihit640@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 5d

Honestly, awesome to hear. I need to check out that video

saigot@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 5d (1 reply)

I feel like people here never finished his videos, he is still using linux after switching off popos, and has been heavily promoting it on the wan show. He also made a video recently on what linux distro to choose, although i haven't watched it and a video comparing ram usage on windows and linux.

hirihit640@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 5d

I was talking about his venture into PopOS that was 4 years ago. It does seem like he has warmed up to Linux much more in the past few months, that's pretty cool

teawrecks@sopuli.xyz · 6 pts · 5d

I would agree with you 6mo ago, but ever since their last Linux challenge, it feels like LTT is full linux-pilled now. Before, they seemed to exclusively compare capabilities vs mainstream OSes, and only focus on where Linux fell short, because realistically, that's all mainstream gamers care about. But after the last Linux challenge, they all chose to stay with Linux on their personal machines, because they all felt like it was worth any compromises to not have to deal with windows.

As Linus put it, if something doesn't work in windows it's because of bugs or lack of money. If something doesn't work in Linux, it's because no one in the community has been annoyed enough by it to fix it.

As Luke put it, every time he's had to fix an issue on Linux, he's actually enjoyed it because it felt like he was learning about his machine.

Linus recently did a call with Ludwig about the feasibility of non-tech YouTubers using Linux. Ludwig said "I just think it's better to have more options, so everyone can use the option they want", which is historically the line Linus goes with, except that he countered with "consider that windows actively uses their status to limit people's options, does that change your mind?"

Overall, I think the channel still has to be realistic about the general public's adoption of Linux. They review the latest tech, and if the latest tech is built exclusively for windows, then they have to review it there. But they do seem to be much more critical of window's enshittification, and openly advocate for people to try Linux in spite of a rocky transition. It's been refreshing to finally see the self-professed tech nerds actually cross that threshold into owning their hardware. And whether you like it or not, LTT and Pewdiepie are driving orders of magnitude more people to Linux than we are.

Edit: oh and Linus openly declared that It's the year of the Linux Desktop, telling viewers it is ready for mainstream adoption.

Eyck_of_denesle@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 6d

He actually 180d on that. He has become what he once used to hate. Linix users that won't shut up about linux.

goofsqueak@lemdro.id · 7 pts · 6d (13 replies)

harrasment..?

Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 6d

A former staffer made claims of sexual harassment. It is unclear how substantiated those were, but i guess there was something going on. Since then they made a very heavily publicised effort to do better, but it's obviously hard to tell from the outside if that resulted in real changes.

pirat@lemmy.ml · 8 pts · 6d (11 replies)

If you're curious

This was also my final nail, especially when they "we investigated ourselves and determined ourselves did nothing wrong" happened.

dieTasse@feddit.org · 9 pts · 6d

Guilty until proven otherwise? I think in civilized society its the other way around, right?

Zak@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 6d

I was expected to post three tweets, two Instagram posts, and two TikToks per day. I was also expected to plan, film, edit, and post two Floatplane exclusives per week. This included wrangling people to be in them when they were also all struggling to get their work done.

[edited for formatting]

This sounds like a normal workload for a full-time social media manager. The article doesn't provide any details about the sexual harassment allegation.

Pieisawesome@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 6d

That’s the usual outcome, even for investigations where there was something bad that happened.

They hire an outside law firm who specializes in this. They do investigations of something that happened years previously, was badly handled so nothing was written down, memories fade, and people leave the job.

The investigators are also biased since they are being paid by management.

The typical result, regardless of the truth, is not finding anything.

goofsqueak@lemdro.id · -1 pts · 6d (7 replies)

damn

yeah ill stop watching em

PancakesCantKillMe@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 6d (6 replies)

I didn’t see anyone here mention the spat Linus had with Gamers Nexus. That was stupid and ugly and set me against watching any more of his channel. I was never a regular anyways. Jeff Gearling is far better.

teawrecks@sopuli.xyz · 5 pts · 5d (1 reply)

Yeah I've mostly avoided GN ever since that incident. There was a time when they just objectively reviewed hardware and reported their findings. The LTT debacle was an uncalled-for hit piece in an attempt to drum up drama for views.

It was eye opening to hear Alex's take in that whole situation. How they did so much damage over qualms they could have addressed to LTT directly. LTT, like any company, has a lot of issues, but that was just so uncalled for.

Orygin@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 5d

Even if GN approach was a bit aggressive, I find it difficult to have empathy for the multi million dollar company that refuses to pay their employees fairly while using them to build out the boss's third mansion

nagaram@piefed.social · 4 pts · 6d (3 replies)
Infernal_pizza@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 5 pts · 5d

God fucking dammit. I swear if you just wait long enough every youtuber is eventually revealed to be a racist misogynist homophobic transphobic pedo

PancakesCantKillMe@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 6d (1 reply)

Ug, okay well I’ll just pull that channel out of my rotation. Thanks for the heads up.

nagaram@piefed.social · 4 pts · 6d

I'm sorry my friend. Turns out all tech youtubers kinda suck for some reason.

CallMeAl@piefed.zip · 56 pts · 6d (1 reply)

LTT is not a serious tech channel. Its a guy doing anything he can to get views with tech themed content.

LincolnsDogFido@lemmy.zip · 9 pts · 5d

This is such a tired take. He gets people enthusiastic about exciting or fun things in tech. Not every tech channel or influencer needs to deep dive analytics or details. Even so, they sometimes do exactly that.

Like him/them or not, they have advanced repairablity, spotlighted unethical behavior, and made useful guides for things like ad-blocking and piracy.

bier@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 48 pts · 6d (5 replies)

He hate unions. Doesn't pay his workers fairly. Drives a porsche. Has a private jet. Knew that honey was scamming him with the last click affiliate links switcheroo and instead of exposing them he quietly ended there sponsorship with them.

Also the 2 - 3 sponsor breaks plus the "at ltt store dot com" self promotion every 5 minutes really makes the videos unbearable to watch even with sponsor block.

Let alone all the non compete shit with his workers as well as the working atmosphere that was reported by some of the workers.

TBi@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 5d

[citation needed]

For unions he has said he is pro union, just that he would count it as a personal failing if his team felt they needed to unionize.

For your last point there are over 100 people working there. You will inevitably meet oddballs who are not happy with anything. Also non compete is (unfortunately) standard legalise these days.

olafurp@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 5d (2 replies)

Revanced autoskips all of those sponsor/ad segments.

MonaySimpson@lemmy.ml · 15 pts · 5d

Technically sponsor block dies this. It's on more projects than just revanced.

djdarren@piefed.social · 5 pts · 5d

With all that skipping those videos must be unwatchable.

Chewy7324@discuss.tchncs.de · 1 pts · 4d

LTT was not the only ones ditching honey at the time, long before the 2024 honey scandal.

The only real news was that honey was/is only showing/setting their own worse coupons, even if another coupon would provide a better deal.

bad1080@piefed.social · 46 pts · 6d (5 replies)

watch the video of linus buying a private jet and see if that's the kind of guy you wanna support

Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de · 13 pts · 6d

linus buying a private jet

Wow, thanks, I didn't know that.

Before he was just mildly annoying and not something I wanted to watch.

Now he's confirmed as an asshole, who must not be supported, from my perspective.

bier@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 5 pts · 6d

First trip was a family vacation to Mexico

Lemmchen@feddit.org · -7 pts · 6d (2 replies)

It's a jet for his company though, right?

RhondaSandTits@lemmy.sdf.org · 7 pts · 6d

And his upcoming "family vlog" he is about to launch. And no, it won't be cringe, lol. shudders

bad1080@piefed.social · 5 pts · 5d

doesn't make it any less private

pr0927@lemmy.world · 33 pts · 5d (7 replies)

Most of the comments here are very wrong, assuming the worst, or deliberately have their head in the sand about some of the controversies and the reality of those situations.

LTT is casual-ish tech - not as mainstream casual as MKBHD ot UrAvgConsumer, but way more casual than say, Craft Computing.

I consume a ludicrous amount (and wide range) of TechTube and have seen plenty of controversies and have ditched plenty of channels due to scandals. GamersNexus used to be a favorite. Emphasis on past tense. They did a lot of deliberate hit pieces on LTT and it's rather well documented - Zip Tie Tuning/Tech by Alex has a fantastic video shedding light on the misbehavior of GamersNexus - plenty of other folks also covered their motivations and unfair approach. Linus is a character - and definitely can be emotional - but his dialogue attempts with Steve were commendable - Steve just decided to be a whiny baby instead. Self-stylized "journalist" one might say.

Controversies fanned by GN are what rendered a lot of people anti-LTT, and unable to rectify their views once the attacks impacted. LTT had plenty to criticize (and I do), but the GN attack topics were not them.

I almost ditched LTT and boycotted them after all those attacks. But once the smoke cleared and reality made itself known, I was pleasantly surprised to have not knee-jerk reacted.

LTT like all channels is beholden to nonsense algorithmic marketing that all channels suffer, so I've noted more clickbaity behavior in recent videos.

I'm a far-left, pro-union, Linux-loving, Windows-hating, Apple-hating, Big Tech-hating, anti-sexual assault, anti-billionaire, pro-little guy type of person.

I consider LTT to be edutainment with more good impact than bad. They'll suffer some of the pitfalls of capitalism with some aggressive marketing. They'll naturally need to compete in the YT space. But the characters running the show seem to have their heads screwed on right and their morals in a good place. They will make mistakes. The WAN show sheds light on it - including at times Linus' difficulty in handling blame. But he also often comes around - and all things considered I'm not too mad about that as his primary negative trait.

I don't love the private plane purchase but there's so much more nuance to that with an intended sell of it than others give allowance to understand.

Also I'd be remiss if I didn't highlight Linus' pro-trans (and broadly, LGBTQ+) approach - his support/ready defense of Emily when she came out was great to see.

TBi@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 5d

Thanks for the nuanced take. I got downvoted recently for saying I don’t get the hate for LTT. I like watching it and learning.

offspec@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 5d (1 reply)

This hits the nail on the head for me as well.

They're becoming quite vocal about the feasibility of Linux on the desktop as of late too. Linus finally found a Linux machine that doesn't explode the moment he touches it and appears to have left smitten.

pr0927@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 4d

Strongly agreed, yeah - very happy to see the boost to Linux use from their championing of it!

DPEWGF@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 4d (1 reply)

Any links? I'd rather watch GM because of the journalism content in the industry. I haven't seen any videos with GM in a negative light. Right now, I don't want to support Linus cuz of jet, lack of him & his wife's payroll transparency with Linus media group(did not disclose distributions saying it was too complicated. It is not.), the jet, etc.

pr0927@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 4d

Sure, ignore the clickbait title here, but this sheds some light:

https://youtu.be/m0GPnA9pW8k

GamersNexus has been validly hit by many others online for their deliberately-disingenuous attacks on LTT - honestly it just got embarrassing at a point, and really pathetic. I used to love them. I even have one of their very handy anti-static workmats.

Once they deliberately fanned the flames of false controversy enough times (oh the chances I gave them...), I unsubscribed and stopped following them. A shame too, because Steve seems like a pro-consumer rights type of guy. But that's not good enough on its own to keep me a patron of anyone.

I'm pretty sure LMG did release a shockingly-detailed video about how they make money and where that money goes, and how much to employees (the math can be done to provide the numbers). Do I think the funds for the jet purchase would have been better spent on employees? Sure. I don't expect to agree with every decision made by content creators - I expect to disagree with many. This isn't one that cancels them for me.

siftmama@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 4d (1 reply)

Oh are you me?

pr0927@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 4d

Hahaha, i"m kind of dumbfounded by the very poor takes in this entire thread and how little research everyone did - and the weird expectation many of them have that they would be privy to the details of a investigation about an HR matter regarding harassment accusations. That info...by the very nature of what it encompasses, was always going to stay out of the public sphere.

als@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 29 pts · 5d (1 reply)

LTT owns a private jet.

Since Dec 2025, it has emitted 339.6 t CO₂ — 71x the average person's annual carbon footprint.

Commercial would've been 7.1 t.

goofsqueak@lemdro.id · 5 pts · 5d

holy 😭

RhondaSandTits@lemmy.sdf.org · 24 pts · 6d (3 replies)

I'm pretty sure Linus doesn't know how to use a computer.
Hardware-wise, he knows how to put things together and modify it to suit his purpose but when it comes to installing and using software, he has no fucking idea what he's doing.

The two Linux challenges that he has participated in has made this clear for most of us Linux users...
But it's not just Linux he struggles with, he makes all the same fails with windows all the time.

brax@sh.itjust.works · 7 pts · 5d

Glad it's not just me that feels this way. He's always come off a somebody who doesn't really know shit about fuck but caters to people who know even less so he can pretend on the Internet.

goofsqueak@lemdro.id · 0 pts · 6d (1 reply)

how 😭 i bet an 8 year old can operate windows

brianary@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 5d

An 8 year old with a credit card, maybe.

thingsiplay@lemmy.ml · 20 pts · 5d

"The Problem with Linus Tech Tips: Accuracy, Ethics, & Responsibility" (44:14mins) by Gamers Nexus on August 14, 2023: YouTube or Invidious or Internet Archive

This video is not monetized. This video covers our serious concerns regarding the data accuracy of Linus Media Group, including Linus Tech Tips, ShortCircuit, and TechQuickie, particularly as it relates to rushing content out the door to favor -- by staff's own admission -- quantity over quality. As the company continues to expand into its LTT Labs direction, the importance of accurate data increases; however, even as 'only' entertainment, there are still certain responsibilities to the consumer and the manufacturers to report fairly (and to have defined corrections processes in place). We tried to approach this as objectively as possible and hope that viewers are able to listen to the evidence we present, particularly as it relates to significant and frequent data errors that now present in nearly every technical review video.

TIMESTAMPS

00:00 - The Last 2 Weeks
01:40 - LMG is Rushing Too Much: Establishing the Premise
03:48 - LTT's Own Employees Agree
06:58 - This Isn't "Drama" & Risks
09:05 - Bad Data from Linus Tech Tips
10:12 - GPU Review Errors
15:02 - CPU Cooler Test Errors
19:09 - PSU Review Errors
19:53 - CPU Review Errors
22:39 - Asterisked Errors
26:15 - Ethical Concerns: Irresponsible Actions & Conflicts
28:21 - Ethical Concerns: The Review of Billet Labs
34:49 - Ethical Concerns: 'Not-Review' of Pwnage Mouse
36:53 - UNACCEPTABLE & The Community is Disturbing
39:22 - Unfair to Consumers, Manufacturers, & Reviewers

New video after Linus Tech Tips responds: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3byz3txpso (only from 00:48 to 12:57 part)

okwhateverdude@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 6d (2 replies)

I'd say there are better tech youtubers out there that you should watch instead, such as Jeff Geerling. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCsd6hP-zzIkCpw8XGw7Osyw

Solrac@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 5d (1 reply)

In case you were not aware, I suggest reading through the comments of this post again and seeing the link to the comment about his opinions on some topics...

okwhateverdude@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 5d

Oh, I am certainly aware he is a massive cunt. The juxtaposition only edifies Geerling even more, honestly.

warm@kbin.earth · 18 pts · 6d

No. Fell off a very long time ago.

eremophila@lemmy.zip · 16 pts · 6d (4 replies)

A lot of people interested in tech end up watching at least one of his channels due to internet searches confusing 'best' with 'biggest'.

You will make your own mind up one way, or the other.

Linus is a trashtuber.

goofsqueak@lemdro.id · 4 pts · 6d (2 replies)

why is he bad? im not saying you're wrong, i just want to know what hes done

pulsewidth@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 6d

Just search. It's easy. There's heaps of data on LTT being shit, but particularly in Linus being a greedy, grubby little man.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linus_Media_Group

Scroll down to 'controversy' and see if that's someone you want to support.

eremophila@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 5d

Watching his content should be enough to inform you of that.

Otherwise it is a very simple search on youtube, there are multiple very well known issues.

Spoon-fed opinions serve little purpose.

ISO@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 6d

A lot of people interested in tech end up watching at least one of his channels

I don't watch YouTube at all outside of a couple of 70+ years old personalities who do some weekly commentary (not in English or tech related).

Zero search/feed/side-bar "consooming".

Slop-sumption is not unavoidable. You just need to learn how to value your time, and develop a simple objectivity/knowledgeability filter.

Solrac@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 5d (4 replies)

Thin education through entertainment, passing as tech and product reviews. Quality is subjective, but they are the bare minimum right after mkbhd/marques brownlee.

goofsqueak@lemdro.id · 4 pts · 5d (3 replies)

whats wrong with marques?

Solrac@lemmy.world · 23 pts · 5d

Garden variety Brand-Safe Hype-First Tuber. Has more air of nothing than a bag of Lays chips.

cheat700000007@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 5d

In one of his videos he was also speeding (read: flooring it in a high performance car) in a school zone and acted like he did nothing wrong

warm@kbin.earth · 1 pts · 4d

He will sell out to anything. It's just ad content.

SharkPlushy@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 5d

Its just tech entertainment with surface level knowledge at most nothing useful but the vids are fun to watch while I eat something

Shayeta@feddit.org · 13 pts · 5d

Good for entertainment. Never take anything they say seriously.

brax@sh.itjust.works · 12 pts · 5d (3 replies)

LTT always seemed like somebody who doesn't know wtf they're talking about, but pretends to and appeals to people who know even less to make them feel smart. I can't stand the dude.

mursejoy@lemmy.zip · 9 pts · 5d (2 replies)

Everyone knows someone like this. Opinions about everything, but talk to them for five minutes and it’s apparent they know nothing.

LTT is the definition of a mile wide and an inch deep.

monkeyman512@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 5d (1 reply)

Linus has literally talked about that multiple times. He learns just enough to cover what is needed for the video, does the video, then forgets most of.

mursejoy@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 5d

Yes which is why I don’t watch a bare minimum creator. It is just popcorn content.

jjlinux@lemmy.zip · 11 pts · 5d (2 replies)

I don't like Linus, the channel's content is half-assed at best, and there is so much sponsored content and self-promotion that it feels more like a 'skip-the-ads' game.

On the flip side I think it's good that they shit on Microslop regularly and steer their audience towards Linux. With such a huge 'normie' audience, they are helping introduce those normies to the existence of alternative operating systems and apps. Their videos can have momenta that make me smork (either because of something titanically stupid or something clownish). Additionally, I've seen some videos of them that have alerted to new projects, hardware or even situations in the tech environment (which I then research in other places, of course).

I have nothing to say about private jet, political views or orientations.

digitalhippie@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 5d (1 reply)

there is so much sponsored content and self-promotion that it feels more like a ‘skip-the-ads’ game.

Check out SponsorBlock

jjlinux@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 2d

Oh, I absolutely have sponsorblock on all the YouTube frontends I use.

cRazi_man@europe.pub · 9 pts · 6d (10 replies)

I have a relatively positive view on LTT compared to others here.

You can't succeed on youtube without engaging in some of their clickbait bullshit thumbnails and titles. Although they're relatively honest in actually covering what they say in the title..... So over dramatic titles, but not quite click bait.

No content can be all things to all people. LTT is relatively "casual techy". If you're techy enough to be able to manage Linux yourself, then it's probably not for you. You don't need then to show you how to put a PC together, or to break the news to you that self hosting or home network storage is a thing.

The content also aimed at a certain audience. If you want more academic hardware testing and analysis, then there's Gamers Nexus. If you want in depth gaming news/analysis then there are better channels for that too. These guys look at random tech at times too (car related or making craft art cushions or something). These guys are basically the "Top Gear with Jeremy Clarkson" of tech.

Things like the sexual harassment issue and things like that, I'm not as concerned about. If you work in big corporations then you know these problems exist everywhere, what matters is how you deal with them. The court of public opinion followed the drama and came to their own conclusions. This just plays out publically because they're very public with their content.

As for Linux specifically, they did some noob videos where uninitiated staff tried to jump into Linux and hit a bunch of roadbumps (which happens often in Windows transition, fine to be open about that, but it also isn't a big deal for the first adoption to need troubleshooting). They labelled Linux as no good for regular use at that point which angered the internet. Since then I think they've realised:

  1. They were unfair to Linux
  2. They've made no allies anywhere by hating on Linux
  3. It's a free win for them if they say some good things about Linux.

So now they seem a lot more positive about Linux. But don't go here looking for anything Linux related.

I think you should just watch some of their videos from main LTT, short circuit, etc and see if you find it entertaining for yourself.

Tippy@sh.itjust.works · 9 pts · 6d

Sexual assault allegations not being a big deal to you is already a huge yikes. But you're also blatantly ignoring all of the other issues over the years:

  • Stealing and auctioning prototype hardware from startups
  • Underpaying employees and turning their termination details into content
  • Making his employees renovate his mansion
  • Buying a private jet for private family use (already bad) and then trying to pass it off as a business expense
  • Repeatedly claiming Linux is garbage because he's actually too dumb (or paid off) to follow basic instructions as a "tech expert" despite his basement gremlin assistant figuring it out fine
  • Been shown with hard facts to regularly misrepresent products and their specs due to poor reviewing and testing standards by actual professionals in the space (and claims its too expensive to do so anyways. Remember that jet?)
  • In response to all of this has acted like a whiny toddler caught at the cookie jar and cries that everyone else is worse (source needed). As far as I understand it, the podcast nowadays is essentially Linus claiming he's a tech God among plebs while previously mentioned basement gremlin cackles and calls him a good master
Buffalox@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 6d (8 replies)

So now they seem a lot more positive about Linux. But don’t go here looking for anything Linux related.

They are so childish and ignorant in their approach to Linux, like claiming that the lack of Photoshop for Linux is a problem with Linux and not a problem with Photoshop.
The ignorance and lack of logical thinking is astounding.

It's OK to say you may have problems if you are depending on software that is only available on Windows or MAC, but that is not a fault of Linux. It's the fault of those vendors that don't support Linux. It's like the blaming the victim logical fallacy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victim_blaming

vithigar@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 6d (7 replies)

If a user needs Photoshop in their workflow then Linux isn't an option for them. That is a problem with Linux, from a user perspective.

Who's at fault for that problem is a different question, and I'd be surprised if LTT ever say that Linux is to blame.

Buffalox@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 5d (6 replies)

I’d be surprised if LTT ever say that Linux is to blame.

He did EXACTLY that, just not about Photoshop, but a similar proprietary piece of software he used for his video editing that is very expensive and targeted ONLY to professionals. Which is not at all relevant for 99.9% of the people that watch his channel. So he basically failed Linux on issues that are irrelevant to by far the most people, either because he is an idiot or he is paid to do so. Which of those it is doesn't really matter. The point is he made a devastating conclusion for Linux based on a fringe use case that isn't representative, and he blamed Linux for not supporting the proprietary software and hardware he wanted to use, instead of blaming the vendors that have the responsibility for it, and are the ones making money on it! Because that's how stupid and misleading he is.

But this is no way near the only reason I have blocked his channel, it is also the blatant corrupt attitude when Ryzen was released, and his extreme favoritism of Intel, that then turned 180° shortly after Intel had announced they would decrease budgets for reviewers. We saw the same with GPU's where he didn't even review AMD cards, until suddenly he did, after AMD began paying for advertising on his channel.

The corruption is extreme, and it's all about which vendors pay him money, and not at all about the products or interest of consumers. Except he is good at pretending it is.

LTT is an advertising company nothing more.

vithigar@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 5d (5 replies)

Presumably you can point me to a specific video, since you seem so completely sure of it. I'm not scrubbing through potentially hours of footage to try to find something that I don't think exists.

As for your suggestion that he just reviews what he's paid to do, sure, that seems plausible. I'm not trying to argue that it's an impartial channel and people should be watching him. You certainly don't need to defend a decision to not watch it.

Buffalox@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 5d (4 replies)

Of course I can, because obviously I keep track of links to videos of channels I have blocked years ago.
Idiot!!!

Use you own eyes from now on if you watch his crap. And maybe you will spot the problems yourself if you have a brain.

vithigar@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 5d (3 replies)

Falling back to insults when you can't provide a source isn't terribly convincing.

I can at least provide examples of them stating directly the opposite.

I use Adobe Premiere for editing, and one of the many fun ways that Adobe is kind of ass is that it just doesn’t work on Linux.

  • Luke, "My Linux Curse is NOT Over... But It's Getting BETTER - Pt.2 Linux 30 Day Challenge 2026", emphasis mine

Adobe is very clearly the party being blamed here, not linux.

Also:

The Proton compatibility layer has made incredible progress. Even actually during our last couple of months, it’s improved a lot. But it can’t do anything about developers who block their games on Linux.

From "I Can't Go Back To Windows", again emphasis mine. Again very clearly laying the blame at the developers of the incompatible software.

Buffalox@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 4d

I have no idea what you are quoting, as you never cite or link any source??? "I can't go back to Windows" is not a source?

Yes insults are appropriate when faced with moronic claims that what I write never happened unless I can provide evidence.
I know what I saw and I shared it here. You can believe it or not, just be sure to pay attention, and if you want to buy anything based on his advertising videos, be sure to double check his info, because LTT is not trustworthy. If you think he is, you are very very ignorant and naive.

Edit:
OK I opened a private window and I am watching the video now, clearly they have changed their mind, so now Linux is stellar and Microsoft is the "bad" guy.

Buffalox@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 4d

Interesting that the video you reference, Linus actually admit that he made mistakes in the review 4 years back.
Also interesting how he has turned 180° on freaking almost every single issue on Linux vs. Windows.
The reason for that of course is that he was basically wrong about everything he thought he knew about Linux.
Also interesting that he now consider freedom a feature, something he completely failed to understand previously, for instance when Skyrim was supposed to have paid mods.
Where Linus completely failed to understand the criticism of that.

IMO he is still a moron, but a slightly better informed moron.
The reason he was berated was because he was a moron, it is not our job of any community to embrace him and be nice to him when he is spreading basic falsehoods and misunderstandings.

melroy@kbin.melroy.org · 8 pts · 5d

It used to be yes. No, not anymore really.

dieTasse@feddit.org · 8 pts · 6d (1 reply)

Imho they are first and foremost entertainment. If you take it as such, it's fun. Although as others mentioned it has a bit downward tendency. I think Linus, Luke and others are intelligent, reasonable people and that makes it easier to stick to watching them. True that Linus is sometimes impatient, we all saw his Linux challenges 😅 but they are ok

goofsqueak@lemdro.id · 3 pts · 6d

yeah i mainly watch them for entertainment

FoxAlive@lemmy.zip · 8 pts · 5d

Despite all the criticism against them that I agree with I still personally like then and click in their videos every now and then.

What I appreciate the most is the are constantly pushing Linux often even if they are misguided, and they have a large audience of rather normal people.

I do think they are positively contributing to linuxs growth, and helps normalize devices like the steam deck.

We need more casual stupid users for Linux to ever hit the year of the desktop.

archy@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 5d (1 reply)

Linus ≠ Linux

Shayeta@feddit.org · 11 pts · 5d

Linus Torvalds = Linux

Linus Sebastian ≠ Linux

hellmo_luciferrari@lemmy.zip · 8 pts · 6d (3 replies)

Entertaining, sometimes.

Useful, not really.

It is very click-baitybas many others have said. I can't expect them to be the most knowledgeable on everything (or anything...) But watching their Linux videos they've been releasing have been nothing shy of facepalm after facepalm. Sure, there are a few useful nuggets of info in there but I wouldn't take anything they say aa gospel.

Its for entertainment purposes and not for in-depth information.

I can get behind them exposing Linux to new users through their channel. But they could do it better.

goofsqueak@lemdro.id · 0 pts · 6d (2 replies)

i dont watch them for info or anything, i just dont want to support them if they're bad people

skidicarus@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 6d (1 reply)

Word of advice: Don’t consume YouTube at all if you don’t want to support bad people.

hellmo_luciferrari@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 5d

They aren't without controversy. Toxic workplace allegations, false/inaccurate hardware reviews, and I'm sure there are more controversies I am sure. Linus also seems a little bit Dickish too.

Ramsesder13te@feddit.org · 7 pts · 5d

If you need a financing plan for a private jet, no.

poke@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 6d

I overall like it for entertainment. As far as I can tell, through the years of "scandals", Linus doesn't seem like a bad person. Just a person who means well but makes human mistakes sometimes.

monkeyman512@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 5d

They are more entertainment and light education. They are trying to target a very wide audience, so they can't really do deep on things. For actually learning I like LearnLinuxTV and LawrenceSystems.

inari@piefed.zip · 4 pts · 6d

It's fine as entertainment, I just don't take it too seriously

Aceofspades@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 5d

No, he's pretty much an idiot.

Sandouq_Dyatha@lemmy.ml · 4 pts · 6d

Linus Sex Tips

Zen_Shinobi@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 6d

Eh. Entertaining but it's not informing relating to linux.

madthumbs@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 6d

Like Pewdiepie, they simply know how to game the algorithm.

sushiatnight@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 5d

No.

I used to watch Emily's videos but she's gone now.

Buffalox@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 6d (1 reply)

ABSOLUTELY NOT!!
He is a fraud who use hidden advertisement. Apart from that he is an idiot, who will push false information people fall for.
Almost the entirety of the content originally was product placement. Which is why if you go back to the beginning almost everything he reviewed was amazing!!
NEVER NEVER NEVER trust him.

Just his moronic ignorant approach to Linux should be telling that he is still a tech moron. Even now that he has economic independence to actually make quality content if he wanted.
Instead he is complaining that Linux doesn't support hardware, when it's the hardware that doesn't support Linux. He can't even understand basic logic. It is not up to "Linux" to write a driver, it is up to the hardware manufacturer. And that is also how it works on Windows. But "Linux" doesn't give him money. On Windows manufacturers even pay to have these drivers certified! So first they write the driver, then they pay Microsoft to certify them.

Just seeing his channel mentioned pisses me off, because his popularity is harmful to the industry. Watch LTT and leave worse informed than you were before watching that crap.
I have had ALL his channels blocked for years. Because everything he makes is worthless because you can't trust any of it, because he is both ignorant and 100% a commercial channel.

If you want real info, watch Gamers Nexus, Hardware unboxed, and similar channels, that are known for their integrity.

dev_null@lemmy.ml · -3 pts · 6d

Wow, LTT must be a good channel if people are shilling so hard against it. I will check it out.

zebidiah@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 6d (1 reply)

It's basically "I heart Carlie" but it's a dude in Vancouver...

goofsqueak@lemdro.id · 1 pts · 6d

whats that? im not cultured 😭

Cyber@feddit.uk · 2 pts · 6d (3 replies)

My impression - not necessarily based on fact:

he used to do good, useful, interesting videos back in the day...

then he found he was getting a good income from yoochoob...

then he started chasing the click bait

If he's doing anything useful now, I'd expect it's because he's lost a lot of viewers (income) ... I don't watch his new stuff, the thumbnails still look clickbaity to me, but maybe he's going back to his original content...?

To answer your implied question, I don't subscribe to anyone. I just search around for whoever's talking about the thing I'm now interested in (usually Lemmy's the source of the new thing)... I check in with Tom Lawrence (Lawrence Systems) often, but that's about it.

goofsqueak@lemdro.id · 2 pts · 6d (2 replies)

he is kinda screamy like mrbreast sometimes and the titles can be misleading

Cyber@feddit.uk · 1 pts · 6d (1 reply)

Yeah, I'm not a subscriber - I don't have a YT account - but if I did, I'd be down voting and writing comments like "so... where's the content from your click bait thumbnail?" 😉

Edit: I'd also add something like "my subscription? You'll never guess what I did next..." 😉

deleted@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 6d

Well, he needs that comment so bad as it counts as “engagement” to boost his videos.

hendrik@palaver.p3x.de · 1 pts · 6d (5 replies)

I think it depends a bit on what you're looking for. If you want Linux content, LTT might not be your thing. Linus is a bit of a notorious Windows user. They did a few videos on Linux, but that's not really what the channel is about. I don't think they're bad people, though. I'm not aware of any constant controversies. There might be some drama here and there, idk.

It's a bit below my paygrade, so I don't watch them often. I'm not into building new computers every few weeks, gaming, or optimizing my Windows file transfer speeds. And I don't think I'm their target audience when it comes to explaining computers. I already know all the stuff they explain and some more. The episode featuring Linus Torvalds was great, though!

(Edit: But yeah, thinking of it, maybe skip their Linux videos. I remember disagreeing a lot with how they portray stuff. Especially the older videos barely scratch the surface and I think some stuff Linus says is plain wrong. They have one dude in the team who uses Linux and knows what they're talking about. But that person doesn't get a lot of screentime.)

goofsqueak@lemdro.id · 1 pts · 6d (4 replies)

im not interested in just the linux things, but ive heard people say that they're not so good people but i dont remember what the controversy was

hendrik@palaver.p3x.de · -1 pts · 6d (3 replies)

Yeah, maybe I'm wrong and there is some drama. Googling for "Linus Tech Tips drama" yields many results. I must have missed it.

Some of that sounds like average stupid people behaviour, like not being able to wear seatbelts properly, or skewing benchmarks. I've seen all the Honey ads as well, I always thought that's how YouTube is, and didn't make up my mind about it. Having some sort of boy culture and being unable to learn sounds a bit more unfortunate and worrisome. (If true.)

goofsqueak@lemdro.id · 5 pts · 6d (2 replies)

about the sponsors, basically every decent sized youtuber has had a bad sponsor

like look at drew gooden, his content is amazing but most of his sponsors are utter dogshit

steelplatedmech@piefed.ca · 1 pts · 6d

Tech channels get more scrutiny because their reputation lives and dies by how credible they are as opposed to being purely entertainment.

I trusted him less after he chose to stick with PIA after they got bought by Kape which is a company that had a history of distributing malware and adware

The issue is who he sold it to — the notorious creator of some pernicious data-huffing ad-ware, Crossrider. The UK-based company was cofounded by an ex-Israeli surveillance agent and a billionaire previously convicted of insider trading who was later named in the Panama Papers. It produced software which previously allowed third-party developers to hijack users’ browsers via malware injection, redirect traffic to advertisers and slurp up private data.

https://www.cnet.com/tech/services-and-software/what-is-kape-technologies-what-you-need-to-know-about-the-parent-company-of-cyberghost-vpn/

Why would I trust someone's hardware and software opinions if that's the sponsor they stuck with back then?

Never hears of Drew, but looks like he's just a comedian? Not like his content is giving out product recommendations under the guise of being an expert who can be trusted.

LTT is an advertising channel to me. For their merch or sponsors. Modern day infomercials for people who are entertained by ads hosted by personalities.

hendrik@palaver.p3x.de · 0 pts · 6d

My mom taught me, other people doing things is never an excuse for yourself... But yeah, maybe that's how things are.

Lemmchen@feddit.org · 0 pts · 6d

For Linux? Not at all.
For PC related tech? Well, I find it entertaining, but I don't find their content useful anymore.

SocialistVibes01@lemmy.ml · 0 pts · 6d

Just watch The Linux Experiment

cardfire@sh.itjust.works · -1 pts · 5d (2 replies)

Most of the hate comes from Gamers Nexus, which is an extremely self-indulgent, self-aggrandizing YouTube that seems to pick fights with everyone and treats the Rampocalypse like every board partner is at fault. He is an expert at making hay.

I wish someone could give him a hair scrunchy.

I got into following the channel rather late, like, around 2017.

Linus has absolutely said some cavalier things, and his channel has a strong history if admitting their faults when they are called out.

They mostly stay in their own lane and don't go picking fights, plus as a policy they don't sue people they don't have to, even when slandered, so being as popular as they are and being as passive as they are, thsts a pretty big bulls eye on their backs.

Tl:Dr - - nothing reprehensible about the channel, just very advertiser-friendly and easy to snark on.

cheat700000007@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 5d (1 reply)

I dont need GN to hate on someone with a private jet

boonhet@sopuli.xyz · 5 pts · 5d

Who's also anti-union

And refuses to provide a proper warranty on his expensive merch, saying "we'll figure it out on a case by case basis"

and so on. Those are things I knew about LTT before the GN coverage.

geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml · -1 pts · 6d

They are run of the mill. Like other trash tech creators they removed out and actively avoid mentioning anything related to Israel.

If you want a good personality check out Eli The Computer Guy