cross-posted from: https://infosec.pub/post/36033796
Amid the ongoing shutdown, the HHS secretary wiped out entire offices that investigate disease outbreaks, manage infectious disease responses and collect data.
'CDC is over': RFK Jr. lays off over 1,000 employees in Friday night massacre
https://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/news/cdc-rfk-jr-shutdown-layoffs-goal-rcna237035
205 Comments
PonyOfWar@pawb.social · 299 pts · 320d
Even if the US somehow manages to have another election and elect a sane president, it will be an almost impossible task to undo all the damage the Trump regime did.
stoy@lemmy.zip · 234 pts · 320d
I believe that is the point of all of this
Grimtuck@lemmy.world · 169 pts · 320d
They literally laid it all out in Project 2025. There are some nuances to how it's unfolding but this is what they wanted.
state_electrician@discuss.tchncs.de · 59 pts · 319d
Exactly. I don't know why anybody is surprised about this shit. They literally wrote down what they'd do once they came back into power. Project 2025 is their Mein Kampf.
TrickDacy@lemmy.world · 76 pts · 320d
Yeah I think this is the headline that finally did it for me. Hurting Democrats isn't enough, hurting minorities isn't enough. They want the country to no longer exist. They want a smouldering pile of rubble left, literally preferably, but they'll accept metaphorical if that's all they can get. The point of this administration is to destroy America and kill as many citizens in the process as humanly possible.
No matter how bad it's seemed I swear fucking God the next day it's proven worse than that. At no point was it possible to accurately assess how royally fucked we are or how evil these Nazis are. And you'll have Republicans defending all this shit even if they personally are being sent to the gulag. They'd say we're overreacting even as they themselves are having the executioner's hood forced over their heads. I don't understand how it would be possible to use the power of government in more evil ways.
z3rOR0ne@lemmy.ml · 66 pts · 319d
It's accelerationism. You burn it down so you can rebuild it how you want. Once all is rubble they'll say "You see? Democracy was just a pie in the sky experiment that was destined to fail. Now let's go back to monarchy."
Remember who burned it down, and never forget, No Fucking Kings. Not now, not ever.
TrickDacy@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 319d
I would agree, but I actually see it more as sadistic and wanting people to suffer. They could literally destroy the government entirely without so much suffering as is currently being set into motion. But that wouldn't get their rocks off.
z3rOR0ne@lemmy.ml · 26 pts · 319d
Just look at the life of Steven Miller as documented in the book, Hatemonger, and you'll get an idea of just one example of exactly who we're dealing with here. These people are monsters.
You can look into the history of any one of these grifters, racists, antisemites, transphobes, homophobes, fascists, and it becomes very apparent that they hate everything and everyone around them, and in some cases even hate themselves. Heck, ICE is nothing but a cadre of misanthropic hatemongers all worked up into a frenzy probably due to an excess consumption of various legal/illegal stimulants along with Matt Walsh, Tucker Carlson, etc. being pumped into their eyes and ears all day and night.
If you think monsters would simply murder without doing the more than occasional bit of torture, then I'd simply invite you to think again.
TrickDacy@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 319d
Thanks for that book recc. I mean I agree. They want suffering more than anything else, that's just obvious to me.
Anti_Iridium@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 318d
No gods, no masters.
deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz · 34 pts · 319d
I don't think it's quite that Captain Planet.
The ruling elite in the US are all several generations down the line of nepotism. None of them have ever had to experience consequences, nor learn a lesson, they are just stupid rich people who think they're rich on their own merits.
There are a few very rich very evil people who are playing them like puppets though and they're too stupid to notice.
Oh, wait that is pretty Captain Planet.
TrickDacy@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 319d
I noticed nothing you said contradicts my assertion that they actively want people dead. Nothing about being rich means you need to go out of your way to mass murder. I don't even see how they could profit from this decision
deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz · 12 pts · 319d
Technically correct! The best kind of correct.
balsoft@lemmy.ml · -1 pts · 319d
Nah, that would at least be a good thing for the rest of the world. What they want is for a few rich white guys to rule over the entire world (including US itself) with an iron fist. They would still need the MIC, military and stuff for that to happen. It's going to be grim for all americans not in those industries though, for sure.
TrickDacy@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 319d
Way to slide in the America hate, divorced of all reason. The United States, like many other countries, is a vital part of global economics and nuking it from orbit is a bad thing for others as well. You'd think at this point in history people wouldn't be so stupid to think in such myopic and isolationist ways, but there's never a limit on stupidity, I'm reminded every day
Auntievenim@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 319d
God you people are a literal joke.
"America hate" 🤡🤡🤡🤡
On the post sharing a report card describing just how absolutely incompetent our country is to prevent these people from disassembling all modern disease infrastructure.
Millions will die because of these choices and that will not be limited to america. Hundreds of thousands are already dead or dying from the previous cuts to the cdc and international aid programs.
Fuck the United states. Its always been a shit country full of racists and nazis. Now they've got total control and you STILL want to jump in the way of any criticism.
You are defending fascists you fucking moron.
Go get a job with DHS hunting "tankies" and sending them to the concentration camps. Join the fascists in rooting out "antifa" since that is apparently the most consequential battle of our time and you have fully submitted to that framing. Blue maga trash.
Defend your country from the radical left, protect the fascists from criticism, and ensure america remains a political tool to oppress all nations with its military and ideological war. Keep defending this shit country while inequality grows and real people's problems only get worse.
You are no better than the Nazis cheering this on. There really is no limit on stupidity, and you're putting that on full display.
Wake the fuck up.
TrickDacy@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 319d
Gonna guess you were not valedictorian.
balsoft@lemmy.ml · -5 pts · 319d
... because they violently overthrow any government that tries to dedollarize. This is the only reason US is still part of global economics.
Will there be an economic downturn? Sure, for a bit, while countries adjust. But there will also be much less war and genocide, which is worth it on its own, and by now the US doesn't have any real industrial sector apart from weapons manufacturing so supply chains won't be affected much (with very few exceptions, like airplanes).
Of course a revolution in the US would be better, but I don't see that happening for a while. TBH neither do I see america truly being destroyed by Trump, he seems to have something worse in mind as I've said.
TrickDacy@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 319d
Yes you're right, the huge amount of exports and technology from America is actually of no consequence. Why don't you figure out a way to nuke us personally. Goddamn I hate tankie bigots.
TronBronson@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 319d
They sold all their nukes for vodka and now all they have to fight with is disinformation. It’s a shame they all exist on here. This app and these dialogues are non-consequential to anyone. I don’t know why they’re full of tanky propaganda. The far left and right just loves to hate monger. Everything has to be black and white or else. In group out group no nuance.
octopus_ink@slrpnk.net · 5 pts · 318d
That is precisely the reason for the existential dread this has brought to my life as I ponder what kind of world will be left to my kids when I die.
I can't even rest assured that people in power after Trump will not be Trumpists, and even if I could be assured of that, I'm not at all sure we're going to get all this shit fixed before whatever the next catastrophe is.
I expect to die of old age in a world where we have not yet returned to at least as good as where things were when Trump took over. (and there was already a lot of fucked up shit then.)
And as someone who has spent nearly six decades rooting for humanity in most ways, I'm pretty fucking disappointed that we dropped the ball this hard on this one.
SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social · 3 pts · 319d
With a bit of luck, they can use this to regrow it better. it'll still be a gigantic task.
MisterFrog@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 318d
I really think revolutionaries massively underestimate how much of society is built on well functioning and enduring institutions, and how much more difficult it is to build them from scratch compared to reforming them (in many, but not all cases).
That being said, the US is a basket case, so perhaps a revolution might be worth it.
Still sceptical, though.
(This is my biggest disagreement with some other socialists I've met where I live, which is not the US)
Lyrl@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 319d
Not in my lifetime. I do hope leaders emerge who can harness the modern levers to our brains in a constructive way, but even if that started next year at the midterms, the decades of work ahead just to get back to the institutional knowledge and regulatory protections that existed last year exceed my life expectancy. The hope is that happens so my nieces and nephews will benefit.
yermaw@sh.itjust.works · 149 pts · 319d
Remember a couple of minutes ago when the world shut down because we were woefully unprepared for a pandemic?
This is a smart money saving measure, theres no way a pandemic can happen twice.
HeartyOfGlass@piefed.social · 53 pts · 319d
You kidding? The Trump regime was rooting for the virus initially because it was killing "liberals". Then they realized it was killing more of their supporters.
Don't be mistaken - this is meant to kill people. This is an attack on every man, woman, and child in the US.
verdi@feddit.org · 4 pts · 319d
Considering the US is the highest polluter per capita in the world (by a country mile), this just sounds like a good thing. Now we just need nature to take its course.
mkhopper@lemmy.world · -17 pts · 319d
To be brutally honest, I'm sure there is a lab somewhere cooking up a new virus that will be even harder to fight off.
Once the CDC guardrails are completely gone, said virus is 'accidentally' released, killing off countless people who are unable to defend against it.
"We get rid of the sick, old, poor, infirm, or anyone else we don't want hanging around, that means more money for us!"
dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de · 11 pts · 319d
Based on vibes.
xxce2AAb@feddit.dk · 126 pts · 320d
Well, that's one way to stochastically get rid of excess population now seen as surplus to requirements, I guess.
Any former employees of the CDC might be interested to know that the EU has been beefing up epidemic response and is hiring. Assuming you'll be allowed to leave the country, of course.
TrickDacy@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 320d
That msn link just takes me to the msn homepage.
xxce2AAb@feddit.dk · 17 pts · 320d
Sorry, I don't know what to tell you. I thought I'd made a mistake with the direct link and just tried it myself, but it works as expected for me.
In any case, for the benefit of you and anybody else having similar issues: it's a link to an article about the recent issue of Rutgers professor Mark Bray apparently being prevented from leaving the US for Spain. You won't have trouble finding coverage of it elsewhere if you're unaware of it and wish to know more.
Manjushri@piefed.social · 11 pts · 319d
The link works fine for me. Might be some kind of geo-blocking issue.
Here's an Archive link to the article.
TrickDacy@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 319d
Thank you
SatyrSack@quokk.au · 3 pts · 319d
I have seen this happen with MSN in the past, and yes, it is an issue like that on MSN's end.
TrickDacy@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 319d
Yeah I've seen it a few times. Assumed it was a weird mobile bug or something
frongt@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 319d
I'm in the US and it doesn't work for me.
Scotty_Trees@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 319d
Just for added context, that Rutgers professor was stopped. Rebooked their flight for the next day and still safely left the country so yeah. Still 100% fuck this regime, but most of us can’t move, family, finances, job, or lack of skill to immigrate to another country. It sounds so easy, but to literally leave your entire fucking life behind and started all over again from zero in a foreign country with no friends no family, no community, and probably not even knowing the language of the country all that well that’s like a huge turtle and I think most people have no real choice in the matter but to just stick it out regardless of what happens.
Typhoon@lemmy.ca · 92 pts · 319d
No, they should be mad. Mad as hell that this government is dismantling all the safe-guards that keep them safe.
Krauerking@lemy.lol · 16 pts · 319d
This is a really good point.
Republicans sell to their base that they need to always be on edge, scared of a threat that doesnt really exist so they think they are good at defending themselves and their families from threats.
But this is inviting real ones. Legitimate threats and dangers to our lives that they will not be prepared to defend against the same way they can against a young person wearing clothes they think dont match their gender stereotype.
They will view this as a positive that their protections are being taken away for them to have to protect themselves and it will kill people who thank the abusers for the privilege.
WanderWisley@lemmy.world · 84 pts · 319d
Many, many people are going to die because of this.
limer@lemmy.ml · 29 pts · 319d
I always thought 5% (1/20) of the USA population would not survive this administration.
But not from violence: instead they will die, without headlines, from lack of medicine for simple things like high blood pressure and diabetes; not screening cancers; complications from malnutrition; infectious diseases; and combinations of these.
zebidiah@lemmy.ca · 18 pts · 319d
Average life expectancy will plummet further compared to the rest of the modern educated world ...
stickly@lemmy.world · 30 pts · 319d
Not if we stop tracking it 🤠
BarbedDentalFloss@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 5 pts · 319d
Oh so it was a kickback for the insurance companies
Substance_P@lemmy.world · 21 pts · 319d
And not just in the United States.
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 319d
And they voted for it. America is very difficult to underestimate.
DirigibleProtein@aussie.zone · 4 pts · 319d
god works in mysterious ways
wildcardology@lemmy.world · -7 pts · 319d
And you'll be ok with it.
TimboSlice@discuss.online · 77 pts · 319d
My country is being destroyed right in front of me. What a time to be alive!
IzzyJ@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 319d
I'm just sitting waiting for it to either kill me or fail trying. And all I can do in the meantime is try to live life pretending like it's not on a time limit
betanumerus@lemmy.ca · 72 pts · 319d
BanMe@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 319d
Are you kidding? I want your heathcare.
freddydunningkruger@lemmy.world · -15 pts · 318d
https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/en/news-events/measles-rise-again-europe-time-check-your-vaccination-status#%3A%7E%3Atext=Data+on+measles+cases+in%2Cduring+the+spring+of+2025
I really love all these accounts attempting to sow division and hate against the United States, when it's just one specific political group who everyone should be uniting against, FASCISM.
Meanwhile, go ahead and read that article about how the European Union has had 32,264 cases of the measles, and only 4 EU countries have the recommended two dose coverage for the vaccination, and then come back and talk to us about disease prevention.
Edit: hi Alaknard, you America-hatin' Lil busy bee
threeduck@aussie.zone · 5 pts · 318d
Yeah but the yanks voted FOR the convicted felon insurrectionist rapist. That deserves SOME ire from the Commonwealth.
jayambi@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 317d
you see, europe at least is keeping track ;)
supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz · 71 pts · 319d
RFK is on track to have one of the highest kill counts for a powerful US figure in the first quarter of the 21st century. That is an intimidating sentence and yet it seems to be undeniably true, I don't see how we can swerve from the path of mass amounts of unnecessary death in the US from disease. Shame on us.
stabby_cicada@slrpnk.net · 19 pts · 318d
Not just in the United States. The Lancet estimates just cancelling USAID will kill 14 million people between now and 2030. 14 million avoidable deaths because the world's richest man thought feeding the poor was a waste.
RFK is on track to do a lot of damage, but he has some stiff competition.
ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online · 4 pts · 318d
And they will still blame communism somehow
supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz · 3 pts · 318d
Yes but RFK genuinely terrifies me more than the competition, he is a super-critical confluence of stupidity, confidence and undisguised fascism.
I am ADHD, RFK is intent on killing people like me off through his policy, that isn't an exaggeration and he is likely to succeed by the look of things. The centrist position in the US is that people like me have had it coming, sooooo...
wampus@lemmy.ca · 69 pts · 319d
The USA is simultaneously broadcasting to militaries around the world that America is going to ignore the Geneva convention/greenlight warcrimes, and they're dismantling the infrastructure that would've been used to defend themselves against biological weapons.
ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 319d
What does the Geneva convention say about war crimes committed against a nation that also commits war crimes?
dick_fineman@discuss.online · 14 pts · 319d
Article 7, Section 2: "I'm rubber and you're glue, whatever you say bounces off of me and sticks to you".
YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 319d
They get recorded as being super polite citizenry.
Source: check out Canada's and Poland's public record.
IzzyJ@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 319d
It doesn't
ghosthacked@lemmy.wtf · 2 pts · 319d
This would be the perfect time to release a last of us fungus or zombie virus stockpiles
wampus@lemmy.ca · 10 pts · 319d
Or bovine ebola, to devastate the USA's beef supply. I imagine that an America that suddenly has no burgers would sober up fairly quick. The massive super farms / agriculture concentration areas make it an easy target.
trk@aussie.zone · 4 pts · 319d
No burgers?! But how will they measure things?
burntbacon@discuss.tchncs.de · 1 pts · 318d
In decifootballfields.
Krauerking@lemy.lol · 67 pts · 319d
9% of the remaining staff.
Another 4,000 government employees were fired across other vital programs.
We are still leas than a year into this 4 years presidency.
There isnt just gonna be a fixing this. The US is going to have to take decades to rebuild itself from scratch whenever this fascist agenda ends.
D_C@sh.itjust.works · 27 pts · 319d
wheneverif this fascist agenda ends.absentbird@lemmy.world · 46 pts · 319d
That's one of the few silver linings of fascism, it always ends. It's inherently unstable.
IzzyJ@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 319d
But it'll kill me first so I'd really prefer to just stop it now by any means necessary, including the things I'm not allowed to say
TheFinn@discuss.tchncs.de · 13 pts · 319d
It's never had modern resources before
Sentau@discuss.tchncs.de · 9 pts · 319d
Neither did the people fighting fascism.
TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today · 8 pts · 319d
Unfortunately there's not really a good historical example of fascism being stopped once they have the power of the pulpit without the help of foreign intervention.
Asfalttikyntaja@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 318d
Good news is that there’s Putin, who fight in the Ukraine against their fascist regime, I’m sure he would love to annex US too. /s
TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 318d
Sad that the /s is absolutely required now a days .
BussyGyatt@feddit.org · 1 pts · 319d
I've heard that before but I only have an american public education. If I actually looked for historical examples, I wonder what I would find?
TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today · 6 pts · 319d
I mean, it's a bit difficult to look for historical examples of something not happening. However the opposite is fairly easy, off the top of my head the most well known examples of fascist governments being brought down are the Nazi, Vichy France, imperial Japan, and Mussolini's Italy.
ThunderclapSasquatch@startrek.website · 5 pts · 319d
The entirety of ww2, Spain transitioned out of fascism relatively peacefully too
Grandslamdalf@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 319d
Nuclear weapons have the same silver lining! What a coincidence!
Krauerking@lemy.lol · 10 pts · 319d
All things end.
Now the timeline and the explosiveness of its ending are to be determined.
Rooster326@programming.dev · 4 pts · 319d
boonhet@sopuli.xyz · 3 pts · 318d
So that's not inherently guaranteed. The constitution can be amended - hell, term limits themselves come from an amendment, not the original text. I believe there's at least one supreme court justice who doesn't even believe in amendments - if it wasn't in the original text of the constitution, it doesn't count.
Luckily POTUS himself can't legally suspend or delay elections. But I'm pretty sure a sympathetic congress can.
Cyberflunk@lemmy.world · 58 pts · 319d
ArsonButCute@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 23 pts · 319d
When I suggested the US balkanize I was hoping it'd be the States idea, not that the Fed would just literally crumble in front of our eyes.
ghosthacked@lemmy.wtf · 8 pts · 319d
The fall of America was pretty much guaranteed because the south and Russia never stopped fighting.
ArsonButCute@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 319d
The fall of america was guaranteed when they made the choice to remain an imperial state.
Like butter over too much bread, the US has spread itself so far, so thin, as to dilute its identity and contain too many, too different ideas.
The interconnectedness of the modern World was always going to result in the downfall of the US as a single entity. California is effected by Florida's decisions because that's how this country works. But now they can Fight online about it. Tensions rise. The powder keg will blow.
Edit: spllng
IzzyJ@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 319d
This sounds DANGEROUSLY close to immigrants bad. And, like, do you want to leave the tyrannies of the world unanswered. I'd certianly prefer the hegemony of 2015 America over any modern Auth hellscape
ArsonButCute@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 319d
No no no that's not what I meant. I ABSOLUTELY see what you mean though.
I was more speaking on the idea that people with similar ideas tend to congregate, but when you've got such different places as Florida and California for example, there is bound to be significant infighting. That's like the UK sharing a tent with Iraq. They're separated by like 2500 miles, these are people's with different priorities, different lifestyles, different cultures. Its not to say they can't get along, but it should be under a federation more similar to the EU, a coalition of independent smaller Nations. NOT directly under the same national flag, and forced to be under the same code of laws.
Like, I get that this is skating the line of being xenophobic, but my intention isn't to prevent people from coming into a space, it is to prevent the space from expanding to contain people who don't want to be in it.
Edit: my distance was wrong, its still the same frlm place to place though
Sanctus@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 319d
Different cultures? Hardly, the only reason there so much fighting is because the southern strategy was so effective they took it nation wide. Its intentional. Its not hard to get all of us to sing along we all loved James Dean for 50 years before this and it wasn't an issue. The only thing that was promised is when the rich have more power than entire countries they will use that to solidify their rule. America is a testing grouns for hostile corporate take over of a nation.
vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 319d
I'd argue that the US definitely has and had different cultures throughout it, hell the 13 colonies all had different cultures from eachother. The only reason it seemed like there was ever a unified culture is because WW1, the Great depression/dust bowl, and WW2 caused lots of folks to move about and amalgamate culturally. Note I ain't talking about the cultural melting pot but moreso it's nutrient paste cousin where everything is homogeneous to the point of having no flavor, the type of culture that lots of suburbanites have that you can find in SoCal as easily as you can find it in Massachusetts.
SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca · 17 pts · 319d
Yeah I've been thinking this for awhile. The US isn't all that dissimilar to the Soviet Union was just before it collapsed. When people start thinking their ideology will magically solve a nation's problems instead of having skilled people working on those problems, that's not a country that can function for very long.
You never know, the US could turn things around. But right now it seems to be running on fumes. There's still people working in government in agencies that were formed when the government was run by somewhat competent people, so they're keeping the lights on. But if these ideological purges (not to mention general malaise) continue, there won't be enough to keep the lights on.
DERRALEXANO@sh.itjust.works · 52 pts · 320d
America winning all the diseases because MAGA
TheBat@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 320d
prex@aussie.zone · 13 pts · 319d
Make America Gonorrhea Again
frunch@lemmy.world · 45 pts · 319d
From the article, a laundry list of 'achievements' since RFK Jr took office:
GEESELICHIC@lemmy.zip · 43 pts · 319d
Meanwhile, the pedo in chief got his flu & COVID booster. These fucking people…
AbsolutelyNotAVelociraptor@sh.itjust.works · 43 pts · 320d
Next pandemic is gonna be a lot of fun to watch from the other side of the planet 🤦
Mihies@programming.dev · 38 pts · 320d
Sadly, a pandemic is a global occurrence. So it will be a little less fun to watch.
TheBat@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 320d
SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world · 42 pts · 319d
Historically fascists leave office when they die
Captainvaqina@sh.itjust.works · 12 pts · 319d
I'm fine with that.
altphoto@lemmy.today · 41 pts · 319d
I remember the time when every weekend there was good news like NASA launching a new space station component on the space shuttle. They did have bad news like the shuttle blowing up and the NASDAQ dropping 10 points on the same day. But usually news had puppies being adopted and new vaccines or a new animal discovered.
Now its all about what I can't do anymore starting this week. Like bikes are not allowed anymore. Or you can't kiss in public or below the chin. Can't wear colored shirts or shorts but pants may still be blue. If you're lucky you could be illegal this week too!
BanMe@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 319d
As a kid I remember Tom Brokaw droning on about the collapsed soviet union and eventually Kuwait but all that bad news was offshore, domestic news was all about how great 3Q was going to be and how the malls and airports would be swamped for Christmas, great movies in theaters, optimism. I had no idea it was the last time I'd experience it.
finitebanjo@lemmy.world · 38 pts · 319d
They have since admitted it was a mistake and then rehired all the white ones.
ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world · 45 pts · 319d
I hate that I can't tell if this is satire.
hansolo@lemmy.today · 14 pts · 318d
It's 30% satire. Some of the white ones were terrible Lefties that have been to a college and so they didn't re-hire ALL of them.
pyre@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 318d
it must be because in the case of RFK Jr he wouldn't really care about race; he'd just want anyone with proper medical education gone so he wouldn't have to hear the phrase "that's the biggest crock of shit I've heard" every day.
Alaknar@sopuli.xyz · 38 pts · 319d
Other countries should just stop tourists from the USA from entering - the damn place is a biohazard at this point.
YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 319d
You think that the people rooting for this are world travelers? What's really strange is I just did an Uber ride for a couple from the Netherlands that came to visit center of nowhere.
Alaknar@sopuli.xyz · 4 pts · 319d
I don't care if the guy spreading measles voted D or R. I care that he's spreading measles.
freddydunningkruger@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 319d
Democrats still believe in science and get their family vaccinated. But nice attempt to BOTH SIDES!!! the issue, cretin.
Or maybe you just don't understand how disease and infection works? Highly likely.
YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 319d
Dude is using multiple accounts to artificially get some credits (votes)
Don't respond to them and you should block them.
freddydunningkruger@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 319d
It was hilarious watching him do it in real time, knowing what a waste of time it was for him to have to keep logging in and out of multiple accounts.
I love it when people like that prove what little character they truly have, that they put that much wasted effort into making their petty hate against other people, countries and cultures look more popular than it is.
People who believe in truth and science should always unite together against the real evil in society: hate and ignorance
YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 319d
You deserve better than this hive mind.
Alaknar@sopuli.xyz · -1 pts · 319d
Wow, you sure have a short fuse, buddy. Shame your aim is all over the place.
Now read this and this, then come back and tell me:
freddydunningkruger@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 319d
Thanks for proving with your links about herd immunity and asymptomatic carriers that you have no real idea how disease and infection works. You are literally saying you think vaccinated people visiting a place with vaccinated people will create a pandemic. I guess you don't believe vaccinations really work?
You're a genius!
Alaknar@sopuli.xyz · 2 pts · 319d
FFS, mate...
Vaccinated people aren't 100% immune. Vaccinated people CAN be the transfer vessel for viruses. AND not everybody CAN get vaccinated.
Like, if you took your head out of your arse for one minute to read what I'm actually writing, you'd realise that you're barking up the wrong tree.
freddydunningkruger@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 319d
Bruh. Did I say vaccinated people are 100% immune? Nope! But it's a beautiful world of straw you live in! Hey, when there is a measles outbreak, do you think it's going to run rampant in communities where the majority of people vaccinate their children, or is it going to run rampant in the communities where people don't vaccinate at all? Do you know why that is, because that's how fricken vaccines work. Before I get a flu vaccine, do I ask myself, GARSH, DID EVERYONE GET A FLU VACCINE I SURE HOPE SO!!
Why do you think that is, hm? Gosh, that's right, because that is what vaccinations do! For some stupid reason you wanted to make it into some political, anti-Democrats, anti-US thing to punish us all for a group of ignorant Republicans. Here's a simple solution, if you are a country worried about measles: require people traveling to your country to be vaccinated.
Do you even know the top 10 countries with measles outbreaks? Did you know Yemen leads the list? Did you know India, Pakistan, Russia, Canada and Mexico are on the list? You better start calling your government and demanding to restrict your borders! Idiot.
YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 319d
Thanks for being observant, and I love that fucking user name!
freddydunningkruger@lemmy.world · -2 pts · 319d
You are good people YiddishMcSquidish. Keep up the fight against ignorance. I know it ain't easy in this sea of mediocrity.
freddydunningkruger@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 318d
https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/en/news-events/measles-rise-again-europe-time-check-your-vaccination-status#%3A%7E%3Atext=Data+on+measles+cases+in%2Cduring+the+spring+of+2025
freddydunningkruger@lemmy.world · -3 pts · 319d
https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/en/news-events/measles-rise-again-europe-time-check-your-vaccination-status#%3A%7E%3Atext=Data+on+measles+cases+in%2Cduring+the+spring+of+2025
Between 1 February 2024 and 31 January 2025, a total of 32 265 people were diagnosed with measles in the European Union. During this period, Romania (27 568), Italy (1 097), Germany (637), Belgium (551) and Austria (542) reported the highest number of cases across the EU/EEA.
It's time we stopped these diseased EU tourists from traveling and spreading the measles to all other countries!! Just like Alaknar suggests!!
Alaknar@sopuli.xyz · 3 pts · 319d
Remind me again, how many of those countries have removed their equivalents of the CDC?
freddydunningkruger@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 318d
Remind me again, how ineffective is the EU CDC in preventing measles and why should we allow you biohazards to travel outside of your borders?
Alaknar@sopuli.xyz · 4 pts · 318d
It's job is also to monitor and alert, and it's doing exactly that.
The US just lost that capability.
freddydunningkruger@lemmy.world · -6 pts · 319d
Because you were too ignorant to clock my original link or understand what I was saying, here it is again
https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/en/news-events/measles-rise-again-europe-time-check-your-vaccination-status#%3A%7E%3Atext=Data+on+measles+cases+in%2Cduring+the+spring+of+2025
Between 1 February 2024 and 31 January 2025, a total of 32 265 people were diagnosed with measles. During this period, Romania (27 568), Italy (1 097), Germany (637), Belgium (551) and Austria (542) reported the highest number of cases across the EU/EEA.
ITS TIME WE LOCK DOWN THE EU AND PREVENT YOU FILTHY SWINE FROM TRAVELING TO OTHER COUNTRIES!!
Except I'm not an asshole like you.
P.S. can I say how embarrassing those numbers must be for you? You were so proud of your 'spotless' EU measles record...
Alaknar@sopuli.xyz · 5 pts · 319d
Remind me again, how many of those countries have removed their equivalents of the CDC?
freddydunningkruger@lemmy.world · -4 pts · 319d
Look how petty you are, downvoting each comment I make because you can't answer it with logic or reason. How sad it must be to live in your head.
Well, buddy, what you are basically saying is, if the EU are putting up those crappy measles numbers without a CDC, I guess that means America is just becoming MORE LIKE YOU GUYS.
So what's your effin' problem mate? You mad at the US for becoming more like the EU, is that your angle now? Haha your logic is just.. so brilliant
Haha omg, look at you madly logging into other accounts to upvote your comments and downvote mine! That must be so much work for you, vs mounting an actual argument!
Alaknar@sopuli.xyz · 4 pts · 318d
The EU has "a CDC" - the European Centre for Disease Prevention and Control.
You should take a break, mate. Take some deep breaths, drink some tea, pull your head out of your arse, calm down.
freddydunningkruger@lemmy.world · -6 pts · 319d
https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/en/news-events/measles-rise-again-europe-time-check-your-vaccination-status#%3A%7E%3Atext=Data+on+measles+cases+in%2Cduring+the+spring+of+2025
Oh my god, look at all the measles pouring out of European Union countries! 32,265! Alaknar, what is going on with you guys in the European Union don't you believe in vaccinations and herd immunity??!
The EU is a BIOHAZARD at this point!
Alaknar@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 319d
Remind me again, how many of those countries have removed their equivalents of the CDC?
freddydunningkruger@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 318d
And by the way, Sir Genius, the CDC doesn't manufacture Measles vaccinations.
So people in America who are intelligent and understand how vaccinations work will continue to get them. But seriously, you need to worry less about the US and start focusing on your own vaccination problems in the EU, according to this, and using YOUR LOGIC, you guys are a biohazard
https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/en/news-events/measles-rise-again-europe-time-check-your-vaccination-status#%3A%7E%3Atext=Data+on+measles+cases+in%2Cduring+the+spring+of+2025
Alaknar@sopuli.xyz · 2 pts · 318d
The CDC/ECDC's job is also to monitor and alert, and it’s doing exactly that.
The US just lost that capability
freddydunningkruger@lemmy.world · -3 pts · 319d
With those huge numbers, do they even have the equivalent of a CDC? How useless must the EU equivalent CDC must be if it is THAT INEFFECTIVE IN PREVENTING MEASLES.
Weren't you the one teaching me about herd immunity and asymptomatic carriers? It sounds like the EU needs to be quarantined immediately
Those numbers are worse than the country you are complaining about, why aren't you screaming to quarantine the EU? Very telling.
Did you even read the article?? ONLY 4 COUNTRIES IN THE EUROPEAN UNION REPORT COVERAGE FOR BOTH VACCINATION DOSES! There goes your guys herd immunity, time to revoke your travel privileges.
Alaknar@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 318d
One of the jobs of CDC and ECDC is to monitor and report the situation. There are countries with shitty vaccination programs (like Romania) or with strong anti-vax movements (like the US), and it's the job of organisations like CDC/ECDC to monitor the spread of viruses and advise preventative measures if things get out of control.
Without the CDC, we no longer know how viruses spread in the US which means everybody could be a carrier. THAT is the problem we're discussing - something that would have been obvious to you, had you pulled your head out of your arse, Mr Genius.
freddydunningkruger@lemmy.world · -7 pts · 318d
https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/en/news-events/measles-rise-again-europe-time-check-your-vaccination-status#%3A%7E%3Atext=Data+on+measles+cases+in%2Cduring+the+spring+of+2025
ONLY 4 COUNTRIES IN THE EUROPEAN UNION REPORT MEETING THE TWO DOSE VACCINATION COVERAGE FOR MEASLES.
Sounds like the damn place is a biohazard at this point, and we need to stop tourists from the EU from entering other countries like Alaknar advises.
Nalivai@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 318d
That's mainly because until very recent craziness (mainly US imported) Measles was approaching eradication and the vaccination regime was lightened because of that. Now it will have to be upped again, which is already happening.
This whataboutism works as a gotcha in a random comment, but EU reality isn't that bleak yet
freddydunningkruger@lemmy.world · -3 pts · 318d
It isn't whataboutism. It's facts and data. It's in response to the the ridiculous low-IQ statements from the OP claiming that the US is a biohazard now because the fascists in charge fired people at the CDC.
Read the article I linked. There are plenty of cases of measles in the European Union, along with low vaccination coverage, and they haven't fired anyone at their CDC. Should we be knee-jerk calling to restrict travel to and from the EU?
But I love how you think the EU measles and vaccination issue is a US import, instead of what it really is.
Alaknar@sopuli.xyz · 3 pts · 318d
Remind me again, how many of those countries have removed their equivalents of the CDC?
freddydunningkruger@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 318d
Evidently, the CDC in the EU doesn't exist, if only 4 countries are properly vaccinated for measles. Get your house in order, genius.
Alaknar@sopuli.xyz · 2 pts · 318d
The CDC/ECDC's job is also to monitor and alert, and it’s doing exactly that.
The US just lost that capability
freddydunningkruger@lemmy.world · -12 pts · 319d
Hey, you're a genius! Let's look at a list of all countries with measles outbreaks and restrict all their citizens from travel!
Oh no, there is sub-optimal measles vaccination coverage across the EU/EEA! Oh no, Yemen, India, Pakistan, the Russian Federation, Canada, Mexico!
I don't know what country you live in, Mr. Genius, but for your sake I hope it's North Korea so you can be isolated from the rest of civilization.
https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/en/news-events/measles-rise-again-europe-time-check-your-vaccination-status#%3A%7E%3Atext=Data+on+measles+cases+in%2Cduring+the+spring+of+2025.
Alaknar@sopuli.xyz · 3 pts · 319d
Mr Genius, North Korea and russia are already isolated....
And neither Yemen nor India, Pakistan or Mexico have effectively "free entry" to Europe.
As for the US - they have almost free entry AND they just killed the CDC. Which means we won't know how many cases they have and how bad the situation will be in a year or two.
freddydunningkruger@lemmy.world · -3 pts · 319d
Haha, holy crap you're a dim bulb!
You completely ignore my lead and link.. THE EUROPEAN UNION is experiencing a resurgence of measles and is undervaccinated. Do you realize how stupid this makes your entire argument? Nobody can be that dimwitted, can they?
NORTH KOREA wasn't on my list! I was saying I hope you lived there exactly because it is isolated!
Bruh, you lack even basic reading comprehension skills. I don't even know how you manage.
Also, I am the one calling you a genius. Can't you even come up with your own shtick?
Alaknar@sopuli.xyz · 3 pts · 319d
Are you high, Mr Genius?
Did you miss the fact that everything we're talking about here is in the context of Trump closing down the CDC?
Do you know what the CDC does?
Nah, Mr Genius, you didn't call dibbs! Rookie mistake!
random_character_a@lemmy.world · 29 pts · 320d
Of course, brain worms demand it
Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 319d
All hail to the worm!
Arghblarg@lemmy.ca · 29 pts · 320d
Oh how I wish we didn't share a geographic border with this fuck-up of a nation (with its ability to spread diseases directly to us).
... and how I also wish we didn't have a significant cell of idiots within our borders who seem to believe the same insanity.
EU, please take under your wing. Whatever faults may be there surely it must be better than this.
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 319d
Albertans would swim in shit streams and eat road kill if they could.
SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 319d
Even Albertans know they gotta build some pipelines because the US is going down the tubes. Still not with it enough to understand O&G is a dead end, but it's obvious to even them there's no future selling anything to the US.
golden_zealot@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 319d
No, I would not. Be careful with generalizations as they include all the people most negatively effected by the policies of the region. Criticizing "Alberta"? Completely fair. Criticizing all "Albertans", people who didn't choose to be born here, to have their families here? Very different, and a cohesion/division fallacy if you give it more than a passing thought.
Saying that every person here is evil or stupid because of the choices of a government, ignoring those who voted against the government and then rolling the moral standing of both groups in with each other is an awful thing to do.
GuyLivingHere@lemmy.ca · -1 pts · 319d
They don't already?
TronBronson@lemmy.world · -7 pts · 319d
Monkeys Paw curls: you’re now a resource rich nation with little man power or military strength isolated from Europe geographically and Russia is your neighbor. “EU please take us under your wing”Ukraine2022-2026 Lmfaoo.
You goofys are stuck with us on this ride to hell. Strap in and less bitching and whining.
SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca · 6 pts · 319d
Fuck that, I'm already buying nothing from the US, and I'm not the only one. Every time I go to the grocery store there's fewer US products (because people aren't buying them) and more products from Canada and elsewhere. Sure there will be an economic impact on Canada if the US collapses, but we'll still have food and a functional country so we can adapt. We know the direction the US is going even if you don't and we aren't going to be pulled down into being a shithole country like the US is becoming.
Russia is on the ropes right now, and the US doesn't have a good track record with occupying countries and can't even keep it's government running right now LOL. Hegseth wants to turn the US military into being more like ICE and cowards like that would shit themselves before they even got close to actual combat.
Your country is falling apart, everyone in the world knows it and is already figuring out how things will work after the US collapses, because you're the only "goofys" that would go from being the richest country on the the planet to complete collapse because y'all got suckered by a shady real estate conman twice.
TronBronson@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 318d
Once again, completely detached from reality. The right wing movements popping up in Canada and Europe are just a little bit younger than ours, they have the same resources at their disposal and they’re learning a lot of valuable lessons in real time from our dictatorship. You will get your dictatorship soon goofy ass. Look how quick you are to make friends, it seems like you are the perfect political target for the type of thing that is happening in America 🤷♂️. The Murdoch family will get you guys soon. Don’t worry. Just stay mad at us foreigners and lean into that nationalism you just regurgitated. Goofy.
SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 318d
Yeah and the rest of us are learning too. Look at the recent elections in Canada, Australia, Finland, etc. MAGA style politics were soundly rejected.
Goofy Americans LOL. But you can still have a sense of pride over influencing the world (that seems important to you) but as a cautionary tale that no one wants for their own country.
TronBronson@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 317d
Germany seems to be having a hard time with their far right, Italy, Hungary, France. I think there are more examples. You guys fended off a polished PP but he’ll be back. Your wealth inequality and housing crisis ain’t getting any better. It’s just a matter of time. How are things in Alberta anyway? I’m going to take a wild guess and say you live on the coast? Or an internet echo chamber?
SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 313d
No, we get news all about Alberta throughout the country. There's some idiots there to be sure, but they're the minority. The oil industry dominates there and they're only loyal to the almighty dollar. The farmers in Alberta don't seem to like how things are going with the oil industry domination of their politics, and certainly don't like the separatist bullshit promoted but the oil industry assholes that only care about money.
PP has had to moderate quite a lot and Mark Carney is what we call a Red Tory... a conservative in the Liberal Party. Carney has a lot of popularity because he appeals to traditional conservatives and liberals aren't going to be voting for PP, so that leaves the NDP which has lost the working class and seem directionless at the moment. PP is an internet weirdo (and only appeals to internet weirdos, not traditional conservatives) and there's a very good chance he'll be removed as leader of the party. There's a significant probability that Doug Ford will replace PP next year, but in any case the Conservative rhetoric now seems to be all about them being tougher on the US than Carney. Even with PP has had to push that kind of rhetoric.
See politics is more complicated that your simplistic view of things. There isn't really any chance that Canada will fall in line with Trump, it would be political suicide to do so. The only grumbling I hear is that Carney is being too friendly with Trump.
The other examples you listed are incumbents voted in before the tides turned.
Consider the possibility there may be more going on in politics in other countries than people just mindlessly copying the US. But there's an undercurrent throughout the world that Trump sucks (because he does) and politicians that resemble him are being rejected.
Sorry, but the US is sinking ship and everyone else in the world knows this and is trying to get as far from you as they can to avoid getting sucked down with you. You're the goofiest country in history going from the wealthiest country in the world to becoming a shithole country because something about your culture created the conditions so most of you got hypnotized by a real estate conman.
TronBronson@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 313d
Im not arguing with any of that, cause you spitting facts. I know nothing about politics outside of the US. I just know that the people in power here absolutely have the money power and influence to do this to any country. It only took a couple generations here. You guys aren't really getting out fast enough, no ones really acknowledging us as a military threat or an economic threat. Decoupling your investments and economies has not happened yet. Why is that? of ya fear of escalation, because it is a real threat to any economy, thus we are all in this together brother. you may not share the glory of the American civil war, but you will feel the economic effects, and hell the winner might invade you so there's that. Need to do some immediate looting and pillaging to rebuild the empire ya know? Your national security is closely tied to USA stability. you don't want hordes of refugees or troops flowing over your uncontested boarders.
TronBronson@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 317d
What do you think the end game here is when the Nazis have a stranglehold on America? do you think their plan is to let you just sit there and do whatever you want? Do you think they plan on sticking to election interference or maybe get a little more aggressive? Like no one’s going to go after Canada in the later stages of this? Who’s going to come to your aid when you’re landlocked by the largest navy in existence? You’re goofy asses are in this with us. They’ve already started the claim of 51st state lmao. Just delusional to the interconnectedness of our two countries. Americas fate is your fate too.
SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 313d
I guess you realize now the MAGA style politics is losing traction outside of the US.
The US invading it's allies would be insane, and very costly. There's a reason why countries don't go to war with countries they do a lot of trade with. The US is already teetering on the brink of economic collapse and that would send it over the edge. Doesn't mean it won't happen, it was almost as stupid for Putin to invade Ukraine, authoritarians do stupid things sometimes.
But that's a low probability. You're being goofy if you don't realize a civil war within the US is a much more likely outcome than the US invading allied countries that will fight back. Of course Trump's supposed "enemy within" will fight back too, but the US is already in a cold civil war states are sending soldiers into other states. It's still cold since shots aren't being fired yet, but it could go hot. I hope for your sake it doesn't.
TronBronson@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 313d
I think there is a truly infinite number of plausible outcomes from here, not many would exclude Canada from the fate of the US. Americans are probably too lazy for civil war, but im not excluding that. This republican regime has friends in most nations and they are eager to buy more. There's nothing chaotic about what's going on in America, and Im not accusing you of mirroring our political beliefs, or claiming to understand yours. Im just saying there's a reason why JD Vance is visiting Germany for AfD rallies. This doesn't end with trump, and it doesn't stop in America. No one is out of reach of the American economy or military. Calling Putin stupid while he still occupies Ukraine is a great analogy of how I see your perceived independence from this chaos. Yes it's stupid, yes it's still happening, and yes the toll in human suffering is astounding.
Your neighbor is a nuclear superpower spouting belligerent aggressive threats. Im just a US Citizen who's been partially Russified along with the mass majority of this country. A psychopath has taken control of our nuclear arsenal and is holding the world for ransom in some kind of strange protection racket. Most of us are completely powerless and apathetic, surly this won't devolve from here! Hopefully we do have a civil war and disarm ourselves before we usher in nuclear Armageddon. My money is on comrade trumps central economy and wealth redistribution to be the down fall. hopefully a real populist uprising and some French style revolution with guillotines, maybe a little WW3 as a distraction from popular uprising tho who knows.
They are still testing boundaries right now.
Blackmist@feddit.uk · 26 pts · 318d
Unleash COVID-25.
Treczoks@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 318d
AKA Measels
multifariace@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 318d
I did not know the structure of measles until you made me look it up.
frenchfryenjoyer@lemmings.world · 23 pts · 318d
Every virus and bacteria loved that
NoodlePoint@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 319d
Everyday these fucking assholes. That's why I stopped speculating what else fucking damage they would do -- stop giving the bastards ideas.
They need to be stopped completely.
buttnugget@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 318d
I’ve been saying this for many many years now. Republicans are simply too far right wing to engage in anything but total annihilation with. They’ve gotta go. I want to put them to work rebuilding society; they need to physically build public hospitals, colleges, parks, infrastructure, etc.
ThrowawayPermanente@sh.itjust.works · 18 pts · 319d
Why would you need to do science when all of the answers are on instagram already
Kyrgizion@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 319d
I'm sure Ebola can be monetized somehow
FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 319d
I'm just over here glad that I never stopped masking, distancing, washing my hands, or carrying my sanitizer around.
Bummer that not everyone is able to do that.
YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today · 14 pts · 319d
I get that every member of this admin has the intention of destroying America, but what do they think happens when they succeed. They think they gunna be the madmax style warlords? Like once their accumulated wealth is worthless do they think they are ruthless enough to take that mantle? I look forward to some pretty wild news of their demise.
StarryPhoenix97@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 319d
utopiah@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 319d
They'll enjoy the beautiful beaches in Saudi Arabia, Maldives, Curacao... please do not worry for them, they'll be alright, always.
That's the beauty of being a psychopath. /s
Donkter@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 319d
Very sadly I think the answer is essentially yes. They think their wealth is a sign of their inherent superiority over people that will be around after the government collapses. They think that they'll be able to just turn the lights off and turn on the fascist regime that has them at the seat of power because they don't understand or simply don't believe in the complex scaffolding that keeps our current society up.
funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 319d
and every other toppled regime "did it wrong" and they totally won't make the same mistakes again.
phx@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 319d
Ironic that a government overthrow led by a shadow cabal of tech billionaires basically comes down to "they plan on turning it off and on again"
stoly@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 319d
They think they won’t be affected personally and therefore don’t care. Most will take advantage and prosper.
YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 319d
Can't wait to prove then wrong.
stoly@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 318d
well you'll still be worse off than they will be
peopleproblems@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 319d
258,000,000
cyrano@piefed.social · 5 pts · 319d
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2025/05/trump-news-doj-fentanyl-pam-bondi-lives-saved.html
A spokesman for the DOJ responded with the following math:
1 kg of fentanyl * .1518 (current purity level) * 1000 (to convert to grams) / by .002 (amount needed for a deadly dose) = lethal dose of fentanyl
So, 3,400 Kg of fentanyl seized in Trump’s first 100 days
3400*.1518
*1000
/.002
=258,060,000 deadly doses
peopleproblems@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 319d
Correct. That's how I initially figured it out.
Pam Bondi said 75% of Americans were saved. I laughed, that's 268,500,000 people, then it hit me. I've heard a number of the population that the Heritage Foundation believes is a "good number of Americans."
It was 100,000,000. Current population is 358,000,000. 89,500,000 is way too fucking close to 100,000,000 for it to be a coincidence. Then they started shutting life saving things down rapidly. They mentioned new census.
In another interview or maybe it was writing and I wish I could find it right now, "obviously executions would be a problem for the state, and would meet heavy resistance. Famine and disease happen all the time."
The disease one is obvious. But famine is much more nuanced. Tarrifs. Cutting farmers off from their ability to fund their farms. Cutting the food programs. Inflation in eggs. Think of how vital a source of nutrition eggs are.
This regime wants to make the excess death count higher than Hitler, Stalin, and Mao combined.
IndridCold@lemmy.ca · 7 pts · 319d
If Trump had done this the first time around before Covid hit, many more people, including his fat ass, would have died.
DrSoap@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 319d
The last time they did this, we had an outbreak in Wuhan.
DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works · 7 pts · 319d
Time for the sane states to create a "Hub of Pathological Management and Deterence" as a replacement lol. Travelers from non-member states get quarrantined.
vivalapivo@lemmy.today · 6 pts · 320d
That's like 10%
Spacehooks@reddthat.com · 5 pts · 319d
This has to be classic case of nurgle cultist wanting everyone to feel all of nurgles blessings.
Someone burn nurgles garden again please.
betanumerus@lemmy.ca · 5 pts · 319d
mistermodal@lemmy.ml · 5 pts · 318d
Great, who is going to tell me that kids need to get infected with airborne AIDS in order to protect the rich now?
BreadOven@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 319d
First they came for the.....
ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 319d
Now is the time to cordon off all of the US. Nobody in or out, you stay in there and rot and fester.
wolframhydroxide@sh.itjust.works · 9 pts · 319d
May I recommend that we, as a global community, not decide to allow rot to fester in a country with more nuclear warheads than any other on the planet and continually degrading safeguards for their inventory and security?
That rot can go metastatic very quickly.
dick_fineman@discuss.online · 11 pts · 319d
For only $5000 a month, you too can sponsor an American neckbeard like me! For your generosity, you will receive one poorly made crayon drawing each year, and a heartfelt letter written by Chat GPT.
Allero@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 319d
May I rather also recommend that we don't leave good folks rot in there?
They will be crushed, and can never help in the rebuilding of society
cyrano@piefed.social · 2 pts · 319d
Looks like it is happening already https://infosec.pub/post/36042267
pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 319d
They were right and wrong about small government
Doomsider@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 319d
So small it can fit right in a Woman's vagina and she doesn't even know it is there.
sirico@feddit.uk · 2 pts · 318d
Blue food dye and other fun things > science