Which is precisely why I'm pretty confident it's a joke. Anyone stupid enough to actually think of this wouldn't need an AI to do it they'd have drawn a straight line themselves.
Yeah, it's hard for us fluent in sarcasm to actually understand those that struggle with it - like wdym you can't tell? Even the sentences are set up as a joke.
I've learned to add "/s" at the end but it icks me every time.
We live in a post-truth era, with confidently-incorrect people all around. Too many people without a care for reason, facts, and how reality works have ideas that are able to gain traction in public.
Look at anti-vaxxers. Look at flat-earthers. Look at Trump winning a second time.
Although I pegged this post as sarcasm at the start (the guy’s job title gives it away), I’ve heard equally ridiculous statements from real people before. Sadly, I can’t fault people for assuming honest stupidity if that’s what they’re accustomed to encountering.
If I had read his titles under the name I would have gotten it, but I've seen way to many Ai bros on linked in posting dumb shit like this and being serious.
Well the shortest path is a drilling submarine to go through two continents and the bottom of an ocean. Unfortunately it will take aproximately 87 years to get there this way.
That's pretty cool. I wish I could just intuitively understand the routing, but I suppose that would take some of the fun out of it. Buenos Aires to Perth did not go how I was expecting.
This reminds me of a Mad Magazine comic from the 1960s (or 70s I don't remember) that had a secret agent or someone like that use a computer to 'calculate the fastest route to his destination' and it drives him through every building in the city since that would be a straight line...
This is so wrong. The fastest route is going west from LA to Paris, because that will make you go back in time. By the time you land in Paris, it's the previous day!!
Globe. Or interactively rotating orthographic (aka digital globe). Sorry, there is no flat solution. You either have to do a ridiculous amount of slicing (Dymaxion, Waterman Butterfly) or just end up with a projection that distorts other parts of the world and isn't much better than Mercator with arbitrary poles. Yes, some preserve scale better than Mercator but none do great circles consistently well.
The gnomonic projection renders all great circles as straight lines. Though of course that doesn't show the entire earth at once, so it's kinda cheating.
But yeah, you can't map a 3D object onto a 2D plane without distorting it in some way, you just need to pick the distortions that interfere the least with what you're using the map for. As they say, all maps are wrong, some maps are useful.
You get it! Mercator is great unless it's shaping one's idea of the world as a whole, which is of course best done with a globe. Cutting a square out of it whose side length is up to cca 10° of longitude will always result in a near-perfect and useful map (unless you are near the pole, then the covered area is just too tiny to be useful).
I had to study all this in my pilot classes a few years ago. We did equations for drawing different lines on the different maps. Super interesting. I passed my big navigation test and now I forget it all. Thats what cramming in 1 week does I guess. But yeah cartography is interesting I'm glad you might have an appreciation for it.
An AI was needed to draw a straight line? Like, map projection and curvature aside - he didn't do this himself with a map and pencil? Same revelation either way but this one was lazier.
Can't wait for some tech bro to create self-flying planes that are actually just a terrible version of the current autopilot that claims autonomy but crashes half the planes.
Then they will blame air traffic controllers for the crashes for not adapting to the self flying planes or some other bullshit.
I'd be impressed if they created anything close to flying. My money is on them making "ground planes" and it's just a shittier train for the millionth time
Actually automated starts, landing and flight are all pretty old tech. The reason planes are still piloted/supervised by humans is the same reason why the "autonomous taxis" are still remotely supervised and controlled by humans – there will be a situation the autopilot cannot handle.
You sweet summer child.... This is still beginner stupid, we haven't even gotten close to the advanced stupidity you see in the world. Especially as seen in the white house/congress/supreme Court buildings in the US.
Gnomonic projection can only accommodate ½ of a sphere even on a map extending infinitely in all directions. It's not possible to map a sphere onto a plane, preserving all geodesics as straight lines.
You can't do this for all great circles, because sphere geometry is incompatible with plane geometry. Great circles all intersect each other twice, but straight lines intersect at most once on the plane.
I feel like this is one of the things AI would actually understand. Since it a problem which is solved very frequently. AI would get tripped up by creative thinking.
Kind of tangential but what is posthog (in his job description)? Is it from Chapo Trap House or something? I used to see that all the time years ago on Reddit but I guess I was always on the outside of the inside joke.
Use this tool to make an azimuthal projection from your location. It's really trippy. It helps you better make sense of routes like these. https://ns6t.net/azimuth/
106 Comments
LodeMike@lemmy.today · 183 pts · 288d
No way this isn't a joke, right?
Elgenzay@lemmy.ml · 183 pts · 288d
Yes it's a joke. His page is full of satirical AI-themed shitposts
halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world · 68 pts · 288d
Every time I think that, I'm wrong. So at this point I'm just going to assume it's legit and be pleasantly surprised if proven otherwise.
Caketaco@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 36 pts · 288d
Nope, it’s real, the hedge honcho himself is going to revolutionize the flight industry with these new Elelems. It’s the future, and he’s hedging it.
too_high_for_this@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 288d
No, it is not not a joke
YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 288d
People openly admitting to using ai to draw a straight line are not exactly what one would call intellectually adventurous.
echodot@feddit.uk · 9 pts · 288d
Which is precisely why I'm pretty confident it's a joke. Anyone stupid enough to actually think of this wouldn't need an AI to do it they'd have drawn a straight line themselves.
affiliate@lemmy.world · 150 pts · 288d
for anybody wondering why airlines use curvy flight paths: it’s because most flight paths were made before AI
killeronthecorner@lemmy.world · 59 pts · 288d
I propose a new formula for calculating them:
flight path + AI
Ironfacebuster@lemmy.world · 36 pts · 288d
Just a little snippet of what can be done with ai....
This code is PROTECTED and I WILL SUE. This is NOT under a public license.
PumaStoleMyBluff@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 288d
Fuck it's on my phone now, how do I delete it!? I'm so sorry I didn't mean to steal it I swear!!!
Ironfacebuster@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 287d
I have traced your internet IP protocol address back to your IP home address, using AI.
Expect a letter from my lawyer soon!
Ziglin@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 287d
AI can send mail now‽
axx@slrpnk.net · 5 pts · 288d
This is superb.
killeronthecorner@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 288d
No it's not, it's terrible! They took away AI! Twice!
edgemaster72@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 287d
Idk, according to my AI agent this code has twice the AI in it, therefore it's twice as good
Ironfacebuster@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 287d
It's supposed... To represent the time saved in the flight plan.... I can see how it may be misconstrued......
I will relay this information back to home base.....
TheObviousSolution@lemmy.ca · 8 pts · 288d
They need to be curved to overcome the wind resistance.
derry@midwest.social · 5 pts · 288d
They called them sexy flights
wabafee@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 288d
Genius
colourlessidea@sopuli.xyz · 119 pts · 288d
Surprised how many people don’t realize this is satire
bfg9k@lemmy.world · 42 pts · 288d
The bar is too low, hard to tell now
axx@slrpnk.net · 18 pts · 288d
Poe's law is in full force in this age of "AI".
Evil_Shrubbery@thelemmy.club · 37 pts · 288d
Yeah, it's hard for us fluent in sarcasm to actually understand those that struggle with it - like wdym you can't tell? Even the sentences are set up as a joke.
I've learned to add "/s" at the end but it icks me every time.
chuckleslord@lemmy.world · 25 pts · 288d
Poe's law. People aren't dumb, they just know that there are dumb people out there
Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world · 23 pts · 288d
We live in a post-truth era, with confidently-incorrect people all around. Too many people without a care for reason, facts, and how reality works have ideas that are able to gain traction in public.
Look at anti-vaxxers. Look at flat-earthers. Look at Trump winning a second time.
Although I pegged this post as sarcasm at the start (the guy’s job title gives it away), I’ve heard equally ridiculous statements from real people before. Sadly, I can’t fault people for assuming honest stupidity if that’s what they’re accustomed to encountering.
JandroDelSol@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 288d
you severely underestimate how many people say the stupidest shit and mean it completely sincerely lmao
QuantumStorm@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 288d
If I had read his titles under the name I would have gotten it, but I've seen way to many Ai bros on linked in posting dumb shit like this and being serious.
JohnAnthony@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 83 pts · 288d
What an idiot. It's an airplane obviously it has to fly up into the air and then down again
Fedizen@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 287d
Well the shortest path is a drilling submarine to go through two continents and the bottom of an ocean. Unfortunately it will take aproximately 87 years to get there this way.
Part4@infosec.pub · 3 pts · 288d
sundray@lemmus.org · 79 pts · 288d
AI does not believe in the round Earth hoax. 🤷♀️
Serinus@lemmy.world · 59 pts · 288d
Just for reference: https://www.greatcirclemap.com/?routes=LAX-CDG
helvetpuli@sopuli.xyz · 20 pts · 288d
Madrid to Auckland Vs Lisbon to Auckland is a fun one
ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org · 34 pts · 288d
Near-antipodal cities are all like that.
A route with all mentioned NZ-Spain/Portugal cities with airports. The difference between flying over the North and South poles is just a few km so it's more important to pick a friendly airspace with good weather.
edgemaster72@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 288d
That's pretty cool. I wish I could just intuitively understand the routing, but I suppose that would take some of the fun out of it. Buenos Aires to Perth did not go how I was expecting.
ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online · 45 pts · 288d
This reminds me of a Mad Magazine comic from the 1960s (or 70s I don't remember) that had a secret agent or someone like that use a computer to 'calculate the fastest route to his destination' and it drives him through every building in the city since that would be a straight line...
Some shit doesn't change.
LordMayor@piefed.social · 43 pts · 288d
Really shows the limits of AI. It’s orders of magnitude faster to go through the Earth.
crank0271@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 288d
So like the Hyperloop where every passenger sits in their own Tesla and rides along at low speeds? Like the log flume but incredibly stupid.
mlg@lemmy.world · 42 pts · 288d
I think you'd be surprised how many people can't comprehend this without showing them a globe lol.
osaerisxero@kbin.melroy.org · 45 pts · 288d
I think you'd be surprised how many people can't comprehend this even with a globe
ICastFist@programming.dev · 37 pts · 288d
This is so wrong. The fastest route is going west from LA to Paris, because that will make you go back in time. By the time you land in Paris, it's the previous day!!
joyjoy@lemmy.zip · 36 pts · 288d
I suggest a better map projection.
ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org · 12 pts · 288d
Globe. Or interactively rotating orthographic (aka digital globe). Sorry, there is no flat solution. You either have to do a ridiculous amount of slicing (Dymaxion, Waterman Butterfly) or just end up with a projection that distorts other parts of the world and isn't much better than Mercator with arbitrary poles. Yes, some preserve scale better than Mercator but none do great circles consistently well.
drosophila@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 9 pts · 288d
The gnomonic projection renders all great circles as straight lines. Though of course that doesn't show the entire earth at once, so it's kinda cheating.
But yeah, you can't map a 3D object onto a 2D plane without distorting it in some way, you just need to pick the distortions that interfere the least with what you're using the map for. As they say, all maps are wrong, some maps are useful.
ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org · 1 pts · 287d
You get it! Mercator is great unless it's shaping one's idea of the world as a whole, which is of course best done with a globe. Cutting a square out of it whose side length is up to cca 10° of longitude will always result in a near-perfect and useful map (unless you are near the pole, then the covered area is just too tiny to be useful).
comrade19@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 288d
I had to study all this in my pilot classes a few years ago. We did equations for drawing different lines on the different maps. Super interesting. I passed my big navigation test and now I forget it all. Thats what cramming in 1 week does I guess. But yeah cartography is interesting I'm glad you might have an appreciation for it.
FishFace@piefed.social · 3 pts · 288d
There is no map projection that renders all great circles as straight lines.
jlow@discuss.tchncs.de · 32 pts · 287d
So they're gonna build a tunnel through the earth the plane can fly through, to go in a straight line, right?
UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml · 17 pts · 287d
Maybe the plane could be on tracks for safety?
filcuk@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 287d
Air drag wastes so much fuel. Put the plane in a pipe under a near vacuum.
OldQWERTYbastard@lemmy.world · 29 pts · 288d
Pilot here. This man is a fucking idiot.
Normally I'd think this was satirical, but these days nothing surprises me.
echodot@feddit.uk · 29 pts · 288d
This is clearly Ryanair, notice how they don't actually arrive at the correct destination?
Wilco@lemmy.zip · 23 pts · 288d
This path requires a plane with a drill head mounted on its nose.
horn_e4_beaver@discuss.tchncs.de · 8 pts · 288d
Nah, the AI must have figured out how to shift the plane's matter out of phase the the rest of the earth's matter so it can slip straight through.
https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Phasing_cloaking_device
mech@feddit.org · 23 pts · 288d
All you need is to dig a straight-line tunnel through Earth for the planes to fly through.
Elon is already on it.
WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 288d
Cum historia mutat valde Razgriz
ChicoSuave@lemmy.world · 21 pts · 288d
An AI was needed to draw a straight line? Like, map projection and curvature aside - he didn't do this himself with a map and pencil? Same revelation either way but this one was lazier.
DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social · 40 pts · 288d
He's joking about how stupid AI "solutions" and the people who stan them are.
AbsolutelyNotAVelociraptor@sh.itjust.works · 21 pts · 288d
It took me a minute too long to realize that the white parts of the map were land and the grey ones were water.
I need my morning tea before I keep scrolling...
Cyanity@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 287d
i'm glad i'm not the only one. I started rotating my phone trying to find Europe. Thought the whole map was AI drawn until it clicked in my brain.
nucleative@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 288d
My dear brother in Christ, there's a reason that you don't
Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 19 pts · 287d
Surely we should have AI pilots by now.
It would make all flights much faster...
::: spoiler spoiler ... because the plane would crash well before reaching the destination. :::
87Six@lemmy.zip · 13 pts · 287d
Can't wait for some tech bro to create self-flying planes that are actually just a terrible version of the current autopilot that claims autonomy but crashes half the planes.
Then they will blame air traffic controllers for the crashes for not adapting to the self flying planes or some other bullshit.
masuhiro@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 287d
I'd be impressed if they created anything close to flying. My money is on them making "ground planes" and it's just a shittier train for the millionth time
87Six@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 287d
Reminds me of that hyperloop dogshit...
Trainguyrom@reddthat.com · 4 pts · 287d
But who will reinflate Otto if we get rid of the crew?
Kornblumenratte@feddit.org · 1 pts · 287d
Actually automated starts, landing and flight are all pretty old tech. The reason planes are still piloted/supervised by humans is the same reason why the "autonomous taxis" are still remotely supervised and controlled by humans – there will be a situation the autopilot cannot handle.
Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 287d
Yeah, that's another layer of the joke: tech bros trying to shove AI were there is already a working solution in place which is more reliable.
Treczoks@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 288d
It is amazing with how little of knowledge and intelligence one can get a CEO job.
Probably because the ones who hired him were even dumber...
echodot@feddit.uk · 10 pts · 288d
This has to be satire there's no way anybody could be that stupid.
Passerby6497@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 288d
You sweet summer child.... This is still beginner stupid, we haven't even gotten close to the advanced stupidity you see in the world. Especially as seen in the white house/congress/supreme Court buildings in the US.
tlmcleod@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 288d
Yet flat earth believers exist. Never underestimate the capacity for stupidity
echodot@feddit.uk · 1 pts · 288d
Yeah but if somebody actually thought that drawing a straight line on a projection map was valid, they wouldn't need AI to do so.
Treczoks@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 288d
Most likely, this is not. There are loads of people that stupid.
echodot@feddit.uk · 2 pts · 288d
Then why use AI? What's the AI done, it's a straight line, even flat earthers can think up the concept of a straight line
Treczoks@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 287d
No idea where AI entered the game. It's totally unnecessary here, as everywhere else...
TowardsTheFuture@lemmy.zip · 15 pts · 288d
would be funny to make a map projection that made the great circle a straight line.
balsoft@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 288d
I don't think that's possible in general.
sepi@piefed.social · 4 pts · 288d
Gnomonic projection, as mentioned in a different comment.
balsoft@lemmy.ml · 4 pts · 288d
Gnomonic projection can only accommodate ½ of a sphere even on a map extending infinitely in all directions. It's not possible to map a sphere onto a plane, preserving all geodesics as straight lines.
sepi@piefed.social · 1 pts · 287d
thx for correction
FishFace@piefed.social · 3 pts · 288d
Does not project the entire earth.
You can't do this for all great circles, because sphere geometry is incompatible with plane geometry. Great circles all intersect each other twice, but straight lines intersect at most once on the plane.
sepi@piefed.social · 2 pts · 287d
thx for correction
LadyButterfly@reddthat.com · 11 pts · 288d
This is fucking awesome thanks for sharing
lefaucet@slrpnk.net · 11 pts · 288d
Wow!
With AI you can be just as wrong as you are without it, but also destroy the earth and be told you're a good boy by a souless mechanism... Yay
Phantom_Engineer@lemmy.ml · 9 pts · 287d
Now that's a deep cut. I haven't heard the posthog meme in forever.
BeigeAgenda@lemmy.ca · 9 pts · 288d
It's like every so often people get this "revolutionary" idea of straight flight paths.
Sibshops@lemmy.myserv.one · 9 pts · 287d
I feel like this is one of the things AI would actually understand. Since it a problem which is solved very frequently. AI would get tripped up by creative thinking.
UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml · 8 pts · 287d
This post is now in the training data.
Kornblumenratte@feddit.org · 2 pts · 287d
(Generative) AI wouldn't understand, because (generative) AI does not understand.
olenkoVD@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 9 pts · 287d
please be a joke
WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today · 7 pts · 288d
Is it because they get shot down if they do a straight line?
fort_burp@feddit.nl · 6 pts · 288d
Kind of tangential but what is posthog (in his job description)? Is it from Chapo Trap House or something? I used to see that all the time years ago on Reddit but I guess I was always on the outside of the inside joke.
Aqarius@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 288d
I think it was intended as a reverse of 4chan's "tits or gtfo".
Knoxer@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 287d
AI is also flat earth dummy then
SavinDWhales@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 288d
The direct route/line would be through the earth, though. Maybe Elon's boring company can do something about that. 😁
boonhet@sopuli.xyz · 2 pts · 287d
Elon should be on the first drill going into the core of the earth. A real trailblazer.
BilSabab@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 287d
When is the next all life on Earth killing asteroid collision again?
P1k1e@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 286d
Sorry man, meteor said "Fuck that" when he saw us
BilSabab@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 286d
damn. imagine being so underwhelming a planet killing asteroid bails on you? like holy shit are we fucked
ShamanRonin@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 287d
This is a joke from Cobra Kai
x4740N@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 287d
The earth is round and other things besides efficiency influence the decision of flight paths for example active warzones and malicious countries
waspentalive@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 286d
And flying over less water in case of mechanical failure.
niktemadur@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 287d
Techbrah! Techbruh...
JackbyDev@programming.dev · 2 pts · 286d
Use this tool to make an azimuthal projection from your location. It's really trippy. It helps you better make sense of routes like these. https://ns6t.net/azimuth/
jadelord@discuss.tchncs.de · 1 pts · 288d
So...they managed to build an AI agent for flat-earth conspiracy?