Brave is charging $60 to remove features it added in the first place
https://www.xda-developers.com/brave-is-charging-60-to-remove-features-it-added-in-the-first-place/
https://www.xda-developers.com/brave-is-charging-60-to-remove-features-it-added-in-the-first-place/
148 Comments
graynk@discuss.tchncs.de · 305 pts · 86d
Yet people keep recommending products by this scummy company and pile on Firefox for slightest missteps.
CubitOom@infosec.pub · 167 pts · 86d
Mozilla should be scrutinized, even if Firefox is currently the best option.
I think the only thing keeping them inline is loud community backlash everytime they make one of those misssteps.
Fizz@lemmy.nz · 53 pts · 86d
People dont seem to be scrutinizing though. Its genuinely unhinged and often completely misinformed. They will jump on a single line of a legal text and use it to springboard into a world of scenarios even when Mozilla is saying its not true.
It doesnt help improve the product it just makes people think all products are bad and fallback to whatever the comfortable majority is which is chrome.
CubitOom@infosec.pub · 23 pts · 86d
Sometimes corporations lie.
It's not being unhinged to say you don't like something. And the way that Mozilla is embracing "AI" is not welcomed.
FluorideMind@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 85d
Who cares it's a corporation, it doesn't have feelings. Anything to keep these corpos in line.
passenger@sopuli.xyz · 3 pts · 85d
Tell this to the Steam fanboys
graynk@discuss.tchncs.de · 20 pts · 85d
I think everyone should be held to the same standard. We can yell at Firefox a bit less. We should yell at Brave a lot more.
CubitOom@infosec.pub · -1 pts · 85d
Same standard means we make noise when we don't like something.
leftzero@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 19 pts · 85d
least worst
zewm@lemmy.world · -23 pts · 85d
Sorry man, but the minute Firefox added that keylogger, I dipped.
Firefox rendering engine is dogshit and they are massively behind.
This coming from someone that was using Netscape and Mozilla and Firefox since its release.
blackbeans@lemmy.zip · 27 pts · 85d
Firefox doesn't include a keylogger. It does have the infamous privacy preserving attribution but this can easily be disabled in settings.
In contrast, Chrome is literally a tool for Google to gain as much personal information as possible for Googles advertisement platform. It has the worst privacy features of the three major browsers and cannot be fully made private due to crippled extension support.
Firefox engine has some catching up to do, but the Safari rendering engine is behind Firefox on features.
SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org · 12 pts · 85d
Okay, it was always allowed to shoot yourself in the foot by going Chromium-based.
CubitOom@infosec.pub · 6 pts · 85d
I find LibreWolf to be the better option for privacy, I never have an issue with rendering.
graynk@discuss.tchncs.de · 3 pts · 85d
I don't know what you're on about. There is no keylogger and I don't have any issues with the engine unless it's some weird ass "chrome experiments" style website which I couldn't care less about.
alanjaow@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 85d
You either die a Netscape Navigator, or you live long enough to become a... any of em, really.
oce@jlai.lu · 52 pts · 86d
They removed the paw, they are worse than Chrome! I'm going to use an alternative version that cannot exist without the main project to teach them a lesson!
leftzero@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 6 pts · 85d
Alternatives being even worse doesn't make firefox good, or invalidate any objective criticism against it.
graynk@discuss.tchncs.de · 5 pts · 85d
I did not say otherwise.
jimmy90@lemmy.world · -13 pts · 84d
this is a new browser and i have no idea why anyone would want to use it
because Brave is unchanged and still the best browser in the world right now
WOOOO!
artyom@piefed.social · -45 pts · 86d
All of the current browsers have major drawbacks. Brave has many features that other browsers don't offer. They've made what is quickly becoming the industry standard adblocker, being adopted by Firefox, Waterfox, Comet, and even Ladybird browser. No extensions required.
Most browsers don't allow you to easily toggle on and off certain privacy features on a per-site basis. That's why I use it primarily.
Origin is free on Linux.
Until Servo and Ladybird are ready, this strikes the best balance for privacy and usabllity, in my opinion
NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip · 27 pts · 85d
Such as? Crypto nonsense?
The adblocker? OK I guess, except they are still just a middle man for ads (hence the crypto nonsense).
I dont see the value.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 0 pts · 85d
artyom@piefed.social · -9 pts · 85d
Why do you ask questions that I already answered in the comment you replied to?
graynk@discuss.tchncs.de · 9 pts · 85d
I don't know what "certain features" are. LibreWolf lets me easily enable WebGL on per-site basis and uBlock could always do that anyway. I don't need to touch anything else.
Yes, and you can also toggle everything off via config. That does not matter, it's still a scummy move that should be ridiculed. How, exactly, is a dashboard that toggles some settings on or off is worth 60 dollars? It's not "paying for convenience" it's a tax on tech incompetency.
artyom@piefed.social · -4 pts · 85d
Would you like to know or were just just wanting to be contrarian?
It's not. And its not supposed to be. Its to fund the development of the browser.
graynk@discuss.tchncs.de · 1 pts · 84d
"Deal with worse UX or pay us to develop more crap" is not a good way to entice "voluntary" donations. Though I guess they know their audience is full of copium anyway, maybe it is an effective way at least, we'll see.
Funny you should say that, usually when I check tech threads - somehow you're always there being downvoted to all hell for writing something edgy in a very pedantic (i.e. obnoxious) way. Including this thread. You could have just listed the damn features twice already when prompted about them, but you're actively choosing to continue bullshitting as though you're on twitter and farming for clout. I think I'll just block you now.
artyom@piefed.social · -1 pts · 84d
That's okay because that's not what's happening, as I've already explained. It is a purchase, not a donation. It's not a novel approach, many other beloved FOSS software take a similar approach to secure funding. Off the top of my head, Zorin OS, Immich, OSMAnd, OnlyOffice, Cryptpad, etc.
I was never prompted. You could have just asked. But I think it's abundantly clear at this point that you just don't want to know.
Thank you for blocking me, I appreciate it.
Fiery@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 85d
I'm curious how their adblocker blocks more than 100% of all ads, cuz that's what they'd need to beat ublock (which existed before brave did).
naeap@sopuli.xyz · 3 pts · 85d
To be fair, he said something about built-in
But I'm with you
The choice of high quality ad Blockers per addon is nothing that's wrong with Firefox
artyom@piefed.social · 1 pts · 85d
LOL neither one blocks 100%
kibblebits@quokk.au · 135 pts · 86d
Brave has always been a joke. And Brave users will always be a joke. And anyone who’s ever simped for Brave will always be a moron.
cerebralhawks@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 66 pts · 86d
Rude. But not inaccurate. Brave pretends to be better than Chrome and Google, but also Mozilla and Firefox at the same time, though Firefox has always done it better and has never contributed to the chromium monopoly. Greed over diversification of the Web and competition between browser engines to effect real change. The least Brave could do is make their own engine.
SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 34 pts · 86d
jimmy90@lemmy.world · -3 pts · 84d
when do you think brave will overtake firefox in share worldwide?
1 year, 2?
lol
kibblebits@quokk.au · 3 pts · 84d
Never?
OwOarchist@pawb.social · -9 pts · 85d
Eh, I use it for watching youtube.
For some reason (likely youtube fighting my adblockers) I get tons of errors and issues with youtube on firefox. But Brave works alright, and also blocks the ads. So it's my dedicated youtube browser.
Kazel@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 20 pts · 85d
never had issues with firefox and ublock origin and youtube and whatever and neither on android, linux, windows or whatsoever. guess i am just not dumb enough
dbtng@eviltoast.org · 5 pts · 85d
Gotta refresh em sometimes. When ublock stops managing youtube perfectly, I reload all the filters. Sometimes I don't even need to close out the browser, just the filters.
OldQWERTYbastard@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 94 pts · 86d
Fuck that leaky browser. Asshole development.
SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org · 67 pts · 85d
Firefox users stay winning. I love how mad some people are about Firefox.
coolmojo@lemmy.world · 44 pts · 85d
I am not mad about Firefox. I am mad about Mozilla.
kepix@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 85d
won so much uninstall when it showed a world cup advert to everyones face the other day. the forks are great, but the fox is getting enshitificated in every possible way.
Taleya@aussie.zone · 15 pts · 85d
Not this face. Didn't see shit. Where?
Scrollone@feddit.it · 19 pts · 85d
On the mobile app, when you open it there's a non-removable FIFA widget in the home page. I hate it.
Edit: I've tried again and now they added an option to remove it. But still, why would I want a fucking soccer widget in my browser?
Regrettable_incident@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 85d
Yeah it's doing that to me too. The 'Countdown to the world cup' thing? Fuck the world cup, fuck these ads, I'm only still using Firefox because I can't be bothered to migrate all my bookmarks to something better.
Scrollone@feddit.it · 8 pts · 85d
Exactly, and the world cup of soccer is managed by FIFA, one of the most evil organisations in the world.
Firefox is a beautiful product managed by a retarded company. Mozilla should die and just become a non-profit.
Someone8765210932@lemmy.world · -2 pts · 85d
Sorry, but no matter how bad and corrupt FIFA is, calling them that is ridiculous. Your average American health care/insurance company and their "deny, defend, depose" operation is probably worse.
PalmTreeIsBestTree@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 85d
The Firefox forks let you migrate everything seamlessly for the most part.
FiskFisk33@startrek.website · 4 pts · 85d
What would be better though?
I have my problems with mozilla, but between apple, google and mozilla, they absolutely win in my book.
Joelk111@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 85d
I also use a fork on most systems, but I still use Firefox pretty often, and I can think of a lot more ways it could be worse and isn't being enshittified.
auzy1@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 85d
Didn't even notice it
eager_eagle@lemmy.world · 58 pts · 86d
lol
0ndead@infosec.pub · 55 pts · 86d
Brave thinks its users are suckers
Telodzrum@lemmy.world · 41 pts · 86d
Its founder and CEO thinks that gay people shouldn't have rights, too.
explodicle@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 85d
Pay for adblock by the guy who made us need NoScript.
Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world · 37 pts · 86d
To be fair.....most of the general population are indeed suckers.
0ndead@infosec.pub · 29 pts · 86d
To be fair, brave users are suckers
TheTechnician27@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 86d
1943 American propaganda film intensifies
partial_accumen@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 86d
I don't use Brave, but one correction. From the article: "Brave sells Origin to strip added features—a $60 one-time fee (free on Linux). "
Brave thinks its Windows and OSX users are suckers, not its Linux users apparently.
leftzero@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 5 pts · 85d
Evidence points to them being suckers, yes.
spaghettiwestern@sh.itjust.works · 48 pts · 85d
It's amazing people still believe this BS.
alanjaow@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 85d
They'll probably hold to it for that exact product. If they rebrand it and add it back, that's no longer the same thing you paid for ;)
dbtng@eviltoast.org · 5 pts · 85d
Ya, that's the really obvious take. That's teh way you do biz these days.
Like, that's what's gonna happen to all those 'lifetime' Plex accounts. Sure, you still have access to 'Plex-classic'. But you don't get any of the new Plextastic services ... unless you want to pay the $1,999 upgrade fee ...
Fiery@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 8 pts · 85d
If I get to use the exact product I paid for a lifetime account for forever that does kinda sound like exactly what I paid for.
dbtng@eviltoast.org · 4 pts · 85d
Trust me. You need Plextastic. Its got all the cool new stuff. Just a small fee.
You will come around.
dbtng@eviltoast.org · 3 pts · 85d
Totally off topic, but I drink at a bar called Spaghetti Western!
Hillsboro, OR.
Kolanaki@pawb.social · 42 pts · 86d
Reminds me of a joke:
My dad always warned us about Septic Tank Steve, and that we should never pay him to do anything, and we should have listened. One day Steve came by and said if we gave him a nickel, he'd swim around in the septic tank. We thought that was hilarious, so we gave him a nickel, and he swam around the tank a while. Then he came and sat next to us on the porch and said "If you want me to leave, gimme $100."
Sidhean@piefed.social · 1 pts · 84d
Well, we'll toss him back in if he likes it so much. Maybe sell off the ladder if he really wants to stay :)
ilinamorato@lemmy.world · 42 pts · 85d
I feel like if you're writing the sentence "an optional, paid version of our browser that offers Brave [...] without its extra features," you need to sit back and take a long, hard look at yourself.
kunaltyagi@programming.dev · 1 pts · 84d
Adds features and asks for a payment to access the toggle buttons
hahahahahaha
brucethemoose@lemmy.world · 36 pts · 86d
Can we agree that Brave:
Is scummy.
Has a shady ceo, and a shady history.
Is possibly a security risk.
Is still orders of magnitude better than using Google Chrome.
And that:
This headline is both true and clickbait-ish.
You can turn these things off in Brave’s settings, for free.
That doesn’t make this feature not scummy.
Basically no one should be using Brave, but no one should be using Google Chrome either, yet here we are.
And the revolving door of “best unabandoned Chromium fork to use” (Helium for the moment, or Ungoogled Chromium if you don’t mind some broken features, just to name two), is buried under so much SEO that it’s legitimately difficult to research.
So… I’m not gonna go out of my way to flame Brave users. If they’re trying to do better than Chrome, good! Not-Google is good. They can pay for this I guess. I’m not installing Brave, though, I’m not recommending it, and this certainly isn’t making me want to.
terabyterex@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 86d
use vivaldi if you want a chromium browser. its very customizable
lonefighter@sh.itjust.works · 20 pts · 86d
Vivaldi concerns me a little, because I keep catching them trying to replace web addresses for major retailers with what appear to be affiliate links. For example, if I start typing the address for Amazon (I know, shitty company, but it's the first page that comes to mind) it will pop up an auto complete to click on. If I click it, I can see that I'm redirected to Amazon through what appears to be either an affiliate or a tracking link. However, if I type the address fully in the browser and don't use auto complete it takes me straight to Amazon, no redirecting or strange links popping up first. They do not disclose that they are doing this anywhere that I have found and I think it's shady as fuck. I don't have any extensions installed and it happens on multiple devices (phone, laptop, PC) and only on Vivaldi, so it's definitely the browser and not an untrustworthy extension or a compromised device.
Zarxrax@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 86d
https://vivaldi.com/blog/what-is-direct-match/
lonefighter@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 85d
Ooh, thank you. I get they need to make money, but I hate this. It also won't seem to turn off for me, I disabled the setting for direct match, deleted all my cookies and such, deleted the browser cache, and it's still popping up and still redirecting through the affiliate link. Boo.
Zarxrax@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 85d
Hmmm, that's weird, I didn't even realize this feature existed until I read your post. Guess I have always had it disabled, and I've never run into the issue. Have you also deleted the default bookmarks? The address bar will prefer bookmarks when you start typing an address, so if you don't delete the default ones that come with Vivaldi, they might be autocompleting?
lonefighter@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 85d
I did delete the bookmarks, yes. I'll have to keep playing with it and see if I can make it stop, but it does make me feel a little better knowing what it is. I just wish they were more open and transparent about it. Seeing my browser just randomly redirecting me through third party links with no warning is alarming and makes me want to go find another browser and I've gone through like 6 in the last 2 years trying to find one I like.
benny@reddthat.com · 0 pts · 86d
This seems to be disabled for me on mobile, but enabled on the desktop. Seems like a helpful feature, though they could've just done something like Firefox where it's an offline search for a website with the same starting letters.
Still, appreciate the writeup and trying to minimize data collection while calling a 3rd party service in the browser and the option to disable it.
frongt@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 86d
Catch it and report it
lonefighter@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 86d
Report it to who? Vivaldi?
frongt@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 86d
The affiliate program. This is fraud.
terabyterex@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 85d
that might be the search engine you are using. that doesnt happen to me. i use amazon every day
lonefighter@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 85d
I've been able to replicate with DuckDuckGo, Startpage, and Ecosia. Interestingly enough while testing it out to see if that was the issue I've noticed that it isn't happening every time, more like every other time. It redirects so fast it's easy to miss, but I was able to screen record and grab a screenshot of the link it's redirecting through. It's the same regardless of search engine.
brucethemoose@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 86d
Yeah. Or SRWare Iron, IIRC. Or DuckDuckGo or Orion on mobile. Cromite. Firefox, Zen, whatever.
There are tons of good options, certainly more than I know. But it’s a hard thing for the average person to research, especially when forks get abandoned or whatever.
W3dd1e@lemmy.zip · 26 pts · 85d
Brave runs an ad network.
floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 23 pts · 85d
"Origin" is a peculiar choice for a version name. I wonder if they're trying to go off of the popularity of a common extension
Asfalttikyntaja@sopuli.xyz · 20 pts · 85d
That’s a brave move.
Deebster@infosec.pub · 15 pts · 86d
The top comment on that site says you can already disable all of these features from within the settings. Is this true?
Fubarberry@sopuli.xyz · 4 pts · 86d
I think so, but it's spread among different menus and flags. Plus if even if you disable it, it's still there, one of the origin options sounds like it has it fully removed from the code.
H1AA6329S@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 85d
It's true, if you don't want to spend 5 minutes customizing your browser to your needs you can use GitHub script that disables all of the features for you. But I don't see how feature like reader isn't handy, it often lets you bypass paywalls for free.
luthis@lemmy.nz · 12 pts · 85d
Are brave and Plex related?
appauled@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 85d
No, but brave "shields", aka pre installed but shittier unlock origin, can sometimes break plex or other sites that require certain things that could look like trackers
luthis@lemmy.nz · 2 pts · 84d
I meant because Plex also added so much extra shitty shit that I never asked for and couldn't remove, so I moved to jellyfin
otter@lemmy.ca · 11 pts · 86d
I don't use Brave, and don't recommend it to people, but it seems like the $60 is intended as a donation/"vote-with-your-wallet on how we monetize" type product rather than something that is actually worth that much.
It doesn't change all of the OTHER problems with Brave, but it might be a step in the right direction when it comes to monetization? Pay once vs. LLM/crypto/injected ads
https://account.brave.com/?intent=checkout&product=origin
usernametbd@lemmy.zip · 9 pts · 84d
Use LibreWolf instead. Fuck Brave.
Diego@lemmy.ca · 7 pts · 85d
yestalgia@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 85d
I read the article.
But also I'm out of the loop on why ppl hate Brave. Can someone clue me in?
Is there a better cross-platform browser? I like to use the same one across devices.
wpb@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 84d
I don't have a strong opinion on brave, but here's some reasons I can think of:
And this is just the stuff that I know from the top of my head. I don't particularly care about this topic, so I'm sure there's more. Although, having written all this out, I can sense that my opinion of Brave has worsened significantly.
Newuser@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 84d
Isn't it open source ? Can someone build a fork with all of this shit removed ?
GreenShimada@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 84d
It's based on Chromium, which is open source. It IS the fork.
wpb@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 84d
Yeah I guess. Doesn't really change any of the arguments against it though. I mean, it's good that it's open source of course, but the ceo is still a homophobe, for example. And it still chromium based, and so on.
rumba@lemmy.zip · 0 pts · 84d
The CEO is a POS and has ties to other rich unsavory people
In the past they have done money grabs. It's been quite a while now.
They still run their own ad network and search engine, They're definitely down to sell you out if you let them.
If you never sign up for the crypto, or use the VPN, and remove the buttons, it won't hurt you.
If you run a plugin you can remove their newtab / default page
If you change the settings you can move off their search.
it is open source https://github.com/brave/brave-core
The only thing you're getting out of them that's above any other de-googled option is their anti-fingerprinting which is a little better than the others.
The other reason you'd run them is because they have a paid development staff blocking Youtube ads and they're not doing it at the plugin level, so it'll likely outlast the plugin models in Youtube's race to piss people off.
In the end, if you're in it for the paid blocking, doesn't hurt to pay them something if you're turning off all the stuff they're using to make money on you.
If you're in it for any other reason, there are literally dozens of forks you could use that give you the same experience that aren't trying to sell you as their product.
Lumisal@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 84d
Well other than the LGBTQ community that the CEO funds legislation against, but they don't really matter /s
rumba@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 84d
I said that, but what do i know.
Lumisal@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 84d
And followed it up with
But what do I know 🙂
floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 18 pts · 85d
It's sold as a privacy-focused browser but it doesn't actually have a good track record or features for it. The company has made several questionable choices.
Firefox or fork of choice plus a couple of extensions
l3mming@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 85d
Firefox, or its fork Librewolf if you really value privacy.
yestalgia@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 85d
I'm using waterfox as my dedicated porn browser and have found few faults. Maybe I'll go that direction for my main browser.
I tried LibreWolf and had issues that I can't remember now.
appauled@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 85d
Zen is just preselected no telemetry Firefox, also bleeding edge with Firefox updates
Brave is fine ish but they have issues, and a lot of them, which they usually fix within 24 hours but they've had a track record of like 8-10 issues per year, so just under once a month.
Don't downvote me to hell cause it's a reddit link, sorry, this is the most concise list I know of: https://www.reddit.com/r/browsers/s/AErPH6iMl0
yestalgia@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 84d
I haven't heard of Zen and just checked out the wiki on it.
There are so many browsers! It's hard to decide. I've tried quite a few over the years. Been running Brave as primary for 3-4 years.
I appreciate the Reddit link. Yikes. I've noticed the enshittification of Brave but didn't know all the bad stuff they've done.
I do like that Brave works well on all my devices and sync is reliable. I don't like running different browsers on diff platforms.
Time to do some testing and research...
appauled@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 84d
Yeah, I like sync too and you can use Firefox sync with all Firefox based browsers.
Brave's ceo also donated to California political efforts to overturn protections for gay marriage in the past
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 84d
Brave is the only browser I'm aware of whose "issues" rise to the level of "we're going to hijack your URL bar and insert our own affiliate links"
appauled@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 84d
Apparently it was an auto complete issue that was fixed within 48 hours, but even still, there's always something wrong with Brave multiple times a year
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 83d
Imagine actually believing that lol
Of course it was fucking intentional, they just got caught
appauled@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 83d
I said "apparently" lol. It was still a brave referral link they got money from, so i have no doubt it wasn't a mistake
CannedYeet@lemmy.world · -3 pts · 85d
They hate the politics of one of the developers.
Edit: wtf. I've gotten downvoted to oblivion in the past for simply mentioning that Brave search has its own search index. Now I try to pass along the message of those downvoters and I get downvoted again.
yestalgia@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 85d
It's so hard to find good things as it is. Adding in politics of devs adds yet another layer to it!
I recently started using FUTO keyboard and then learned someone they associate with is a bad dude.
It's like, come on guys. I'm trying to degoogle, avoid enshittification, and be privacy and security aware... and then there's this curveball that I have to factor in too.
nate3d@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 86d
I don’t use brave but for someone ootl, why all the hate?
ISOmorph@feddit.org · 15 pts · 86d
Brave Browser has faced controversy primarily due to its auto-completion of URLs with affiliate links that earned the company commissions without user consent, which raised concerns about transparency and user privacy. Additionally, its integration of cryptocurrency features has sparked debate over whether these add unnecessary complexity and potential privacy risks.
https://blog.alexseifert.com/2025/04/06/why-i-recommend-against-brave/
leftzero@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 7 pts · 85d
Here's a list of reasons.
AceOnTrack@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 6 pts · 86d
it's just general enshittification
kepix@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 85d
here you go, free https://github.com/xXSalamanderXx/SlimBrave
OozingPositron@feddit.cl · 3 pts · 85d
Nice, but it's funny how the logo looks like a very fat lion.
Someplaceunknown@leminal.space · 4 pts · 84d
There's no way people will actually pay for this, right? ... right?
FoxtrotDeltaTango@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 84d
Brave sucks, lol, I use other browsers
dbtng@eviltoast.org · 3 pts · 85d
So much venom. That's weird. Because they are all useful to some degree or another.
I use Brave. (The free one. Obviously.)
And I use Vivaldi. And Firefox. And Waterfox.
And even Chrome.
I do a lot of work through browser-based utilities. I like to set one browser up with all my server clusters pinned. This is the Brave/Vivaldi role. It doesn't go online, just server mangement.
And I'll set up Chrome with all my work sites. Because that's the standard, and its gonna run all that work shit reliably. Login to my work google here.
And I want a dirty actual-browser with uBlock, SuperStop, and kill-sticky. Usually Firefox. Might get my personal gmail here.
If I'm on a machine where I need an additional role, or perhaps some extension that I don't want in my main browser, I install another browser to handle it.
They are tools, folks. Use em. Don't let them use you. Don't be a tool.
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saltesc@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 86d
This comment section is a great example of tribalism. The topic of web browsers always is for some weird reason.
MoonRaven@feddit.nl · 2 pts · 85d
I don't mind paying a fee for a browser. It's a lot of development time and I use it a lot. But not like this, and not brave.
Kazel@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 0 pts · 84d
I donated to firefox and mozilla until i leanred about the payment of the CEO. I will die on the firefox hill but the company has to change.
qevlarr@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 85d
You can already disable all of that stuff in the regular version, right?
Gsus4@mander.xyz · 1 pts · 84d
Awesome, monetization of enshittification.
Phantaloons@piefed.zip · 1 pts · 85d
Reminds me of Anubis charging $50 to remove the :3 moe fox girl.
webghost0101@sopuli.xyz · 8 pts · 85d
Not quite the same,
Anubis is open source and changing/removing it can actually be done for free without any laws stopping you,
They kindly ask you to pay them to do it as part of a kind off enterprise service, using the logic that if your website is professional enough to care about a logo, its professional enough to support the work it is relying on.
nosuchanon@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 84d
Explanation: buy a new one with updated back doors.
InfernoWarrior@piefed.social · 1 pts · 84d
This is why I use Waterfox paired with DuckDuckGo tbh. Brave is a scummy company.
atrielienz@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 85d
This isn't meant to be a hate comment or anything like that, but a closed mouth don't get fed. I think it's good that there's discourse about this browser and every browser, pointing out the scummy things they do. If we didn't do that there would never be any backlash and most people who know these things now wouldn't know.
Nurse_Robot@lemmy.world · -2 pts · 86d
I just switched to Brave because I was tired of Chrome stealing all my data and it seemed like a better browser from a privacy standpoint. I like it so far. Now I'm seeing all this hate about brave lol. I'm convinced Lemmy will hate everything I'm doing, no matter what that thing is
InvisibleShoe@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 86d
Try Librewolf
Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works · 8 pts · 86d
Zen is also really nice (based on Firefox like Librewolf).
MalReynolds@slrpnk.net · 4 pts · 85d
Love it. The out of your way design philosophy is IMO a tangible improvement on every other browser I've tried, which is most. No AI commitment is also a win.
Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 85d
I’m surprised Floorp isn’t more popular! I went from Librewolf to Floorp and it’s got a silly name, but it’s the best fork I’ve found so far (ALSO BUILT-IN MOUSE GESTURES AWE YEEEE I’ve been using those for decades now)
MagicShel@lemmy.zip · 14 pts · 86d
I used Brave for a bit after it came out. All the built-in crypto bullshit wasn't anything I ever touched. I can't remember if I quit some time before Chrome announced the manifest-v3, or if that made me swear off all Chromium browsers for good.
Anyway, also apparently the creators are huge assholes, so there is that, but as I never had any intent to support them financially I just thought I'd use a privacy-focused browser. Meh. Firefox has all the plugins a person could ever want.
I mean, use whatever browser you like. Lemmy is cool and basically right about a lot of things, but fuck the zeitgeist and make up your own mind about shit. I went a different way, but forge your own path.
lemmyng@lemmy.world · -3 pts · 86d
Sorry, can't hear ya over the sounds of Henry from Techlore taking Brave down the gullet.
H1AA6329S@lemmy.world · -4 pts · 85d
You don't need to pay anything if you go to the settings and disable them one by one. Brave is the best browser out there and only browser I have used since 2019.
philpo@feddit.org · 8 pts · 85d
Brave was founded by a known homophobe who donated to Anti-LGBT projects and that was figure in the Covid - conspiracy circles . It is known to have injected stuff into their clients data, e.g. affiliate links, has leaked Tor data, etc.
It is by far the most shady and bad major browser.
H1AA6329S@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 78d
Brother, chrome been anticonsumwr all their life. The Firefox has been selling data for third party players, edge has been used to train AI models..what are you even on?
philpo@feddit.org · 1 pts · 78d
LibreWolf.
moopet@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 85d
You don't need to pay anything to eat this delicious succulent meal, as long as you pick out the maggots first.