Edit: For context, @db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com discovered that the developer of Tesseract had discretely banned numerous instances and disguised it as a server error. This included more heavily leftist instances, but also blahaj.zone. More recently, it was discovered that they had also been suppressing individual users, phrases, and communities that criticize power tripping on fedi.
Needless to say, I implore non blahaj.zone users to drop the Tesseract client (support for the client has already been dropped for blahaj). So called "liberals" like this who call out "extremism on both sides" are an insult to the values they claim to be upholding.
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lena@gregtech.eu · 119 pts · 32d
Lmao he even banned this
pleb_maximus@piefed.zip · 76 pts · 32d
Only an evil person could want to ban subs.
Right?
🥺
👉👈
yetAnotherUser@lemmy.ca · 54 pts · 32d
Apparently "🥺?👉👈" is either very "extremist" or "group thinking" for that dev, lol
hildegarde@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 24 pts · 31d
As a proud extremist, the only reason I'm not included is because I don't do the extremist hand signal. 🥺👉👈 Amateur mistake I know.
sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 7 pts · 31d
Yes, the extremist group thinking of 'i would really appreciate some headpats andmaybealittlebonustreat, ahem but mostly headpats, yes, mhm.'
samus12345@sh.itjust.works · 43 pts · 32d
🖕😉 🖕
(Directed at him, not you!)
renzhexiangjiao@piefed.blahaj.zone · 26 pts · 31d
hah it's the first time I'm seeing an emoji regex
sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 7 pts · 31d
You know... yeah.
I don't think I've ever seen that before either.
sludgewife@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 28d
they're even bad regexes. there's no point putting an optional thing at either end of an unanchored non-capturing regex. 🥺👉👈 contains 👉👈. it's like searching for "chains OR gold chains"
flamingos@feddit.uk · 116 pts · 32d
So real. Need to start complaining about paywalled articles more.
lime@feddit.nu · 43 pts · 32d
or saying "turd"
snoons@lemmy.ca · 20 pts · 32d
ur a turd
lime@feddit.nu · 17 pts · 32d
:O
snoons@lemmy.ca · 7 pts · 32d
no u
P1k1e@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 32d
See, that's why you're on the list
snoons@lemmy.ca · 8 pts · 32d
>:3
Ludrol@szmer.info · 19 pts · 32d
"wholesome yuri"
irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 17 pts · 32d
Or say perchance
ghost_towels@sh.itjust.works · 8 pts · 31d
Perchance peeerchaaance PERCHANCE!
grte@lemmy.ca · 84 pts · 32d
Kinda sad I didn't make their shadowban list.
GalacticSushi@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 51 pts · 32d
Same. If it makes you feel any better, we're probably on some government watch list somewhere :3
erinmeow@piefed.blahaj.zone · 29 pts · 32d
yes, russian govr knows about transfem.social for example, and probably about blahaj.zone too
Droechai@piefed.blahaj.zone · 6 pts · 31d
Thats why Im on blahaj.piefed, its all sneakylike
amoogus@lemmy.ml · -8 pts · 32d
erinmeow@piefed.blahaj.zone · 37 pts · 32d
nya,
PS. if someone who know me see how i much scream about where i live - im seeking attention, to possibly find local ppl who are similar to me(and its works yay!!! i slowly building connections)
Prunebutt@slrpnk.net · 9 pts · 32d
Apply cold water to burned areas. /j
erinmeow@piefed.blahaj.zone · 10 pts · 32d
nyaaaa, i was going todo that, im overheatiing now is hot as fck, despire turned on fan
hildegarde@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 32d
The american democratic party blamed russia for their loss in 2016, and then tried to do a neuveau red scare instead of learning anything about appealing to voters during an election.
It broke a lot of people's brains now american political weirdos go rabbid whenever they hear anyone mention russia. Sorry you had to deal with that.
takeda@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 31d
Except Mueller and other investigations showed that Russia did try to influence elections to help trump, did work with the campaign and it actually had impact. That's why so many kettle for indicted. He only refused to investigate whether trump new anything about that, but after pardons and other things he did I think the answer is very clear.
edible_funk@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 31d
Russia was responsible in part for Trump winning in 2016. The Mueller report confirmed this. Trump himself just released information the other day that also confirmed this, and Russian interference in 20 and 24.
hildegarde@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 0 pts · 31d
Everyone who knew about this in 2016 and was in a position to act on that information didn't consider it actionable.
erinmeow@piefed.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 32d
yuuuuuuh, i dont think putin interested in america, but in countries around, successfuly "occupiing" govrenments, the kazakhstan, georgia, belarus politics are fucked, but armenia still stays somewhat okay right now, i remember see a lot agressive very agressive propanganda in very yummy forms about elections in armenia////////
Skullgrid@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 32d
absolutely, when their government stops supporting the downfall of democracy globally, we will go back to treating them the way we did in the Yeltsin era.
erinmeow@piefed.blahaj.zone · 5 pts · 32d
UPD more hell
etc
erinmeow@piefed.blahaj.zone · 5 pts · 32d
UPD, i will block n report u for picture with "ukrain is winning, trust me bro"
GalacticSushi@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 6 pts · 32d
It's a .ml account, usually safe to block anyway. That instance is full on tankie.
erinmeow@piefed.blahaj.zone · 5 pts · 32d
yup i had recently blocked lemmy.world, n lemmy.ml, today i was need unlock for ONE user, and shocked how my feed become trash
irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 17 pts · 32d
I hope our names are touching on the watchlist
VitoRobles@lemmy.today · 11 pts · 32d
Same. I feel attacked like I don't say enough cool shit to piss off a snowflake.
ianhclark510@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 8 pts · 32d
samsies, I will take this as a signal from life that I need to double down and be more obnoxious
Gonzako@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 32d
Same brother
dditty@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 31d
Lmao we all checked the list to see if we were members of an exclusive club. I guess I need to post more extremist rhetoric...in Minecraft
Gonzako@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 31d
Just post stupid shit like "Is being able to choose your own skin trans agenda?" or something like "Minecraft, the imperialist's wet dream." Or some stupid woke 1 stuff.
EatMyPixelDust@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 77 pts · 32d
Don't forget this also works in reverse! The blocklist is also a contact list of cool people ;)
MisterFrog@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 32d
Hahaha yayyyy I made it onto the blocklist in the userregexes list. I assume this means all my alt accounts with the same name on different instances were blocked.
Man, I must be a menace
Gorgritch_umie_killa@aussie.zone · 3 pts · 31d
Such a total menace! /j
NoForwadSlashS@piefed.social · 12 pts · 32d
While sad I'm not on it, I saw every user I have a positive tag set for on there. At least I'm making some good choices.
GrantUsEyes@piefed.zip · 7 pts · 31d
Same, does that makes us cool by proxy?
kylie_kraft@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 32d
captainlezbian@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 31d
Hell yeah we do
TotallynotJessica@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 8 pts · 31d
No, that was the entire point. I'm not a cool person because I'm not on that list
sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 5 pts · 31d
You are cool.
You are just also broadly respectable, and a pleasant person.
I'm a brash asshole when someone pisses me off, lol, ran out of fucks to give sometime during COVID.
TotallynotJessica@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 31d
I do try to be a bad girl sometimes, but I guess I am more inclined towards kindness than I give myself credit for.
sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 31d
Really, truly, keep the kindness.
I am aware that now me is a cynical bastard compared to younger me... and I do not like that.
Whatever happens to any of us, the whole world in this ... grand collapse, that is about to accelerate...
... love is the only thing that can build, after all the hate and greed has destroyed.
captainlezbian@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 31d
We really need kind people though
EatMyPixelDust@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 30d
I guess I'm not cool either 😔
criss_cross@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 32d
TIL I’m too cool for school.
SeventySeven@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 32d
I'll take this in stride and wear it as a badge of honor!
captainlezbian@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 31d
Mostly, but not necessarily, I noticed some people I definitely wouldn't call cool on there
EatMyPixelDust@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 30d
Fair, there's always some bad apples.
VitoRobles@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 32d
PDFuego@aussie.zone · 71 pts · 32d
Me, seeing my name on this list:
sulfidedisburseangledafternoontipper@piefed.blahaj.zone · 70 pts · 32d
The blocklist is so wild. It really appears to be someone who has put a lot of work into removing any exposure to anyone who cares about literally anything. What a sad little piece of shit.
VitoRobles@lemmy.today · 36 pts · 32d
I couldn't find the list until someone shared it
https://copyparty.adrian.place/u/?doc=policy.json
nyctre@piefed.social · 35 pts · 32d
Holy crap. That list is huge. Is there anyone left to interact with? It's not like there's THAT many of us.
Sirius006@sh.itjust.works · 27 pts · 32d
What do you mean ? There are dozens of us that are not on the list.
devdoggy@piefed.social · 9 pts · 31d
I'm one!!
samus12345@sh.itjust.works · 10 pts · 32d
I dunno what "userRegexes" is, but I'm there. I'm hoping it means I'm banned!
yetAnotherUser@lemmy.ca · 8 pts · 32d
It means that your account and any other accounts Tesseract finds with the same name as yours (the "samus12345" part) are banned.
SatyrSack@quokk.au · 10 pts · 32d
Wait, so if I create a Lemmy account as @samus12345@foobar.com, that would automatically be blocked as being assumed to be an alt of @samus12345@sh.itjust.works?
RogueBanana@piefed.zip · 7 pts · 31d
Exactly, regex is basically the same as pattern matching in programming.
yetAnotherUser@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 31d
Yeah, and the dev explicitly chose to go with that assumption. Or maybe they just don't like Metroid either way lol
samus12345@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 31d
I do use that name when making accounts on other instances, so it was a good assumption!
Jayjader@jlai.lu · 4 pts · 31d
"regex" is short for "Regular Expression", a type of program for matching characters in text. I haven't read the actual code that uses the
userRegexeslist, but I think you're safe to assume that it means the tesseract client was filtering your comments and/or posts.Strawberry@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 9 pts · 31d
Hehe I'n on the McCarthyist list
Buelldozer@lemmy.today · 7 pts · 32d
Hey, a copyparty server in the wild! Neat!
halcyoncmdr@piefed.social · 5 pts · 32d
Damn, none of my accounts are on the list. Even the ones banned from .ml
pleb_maximus@piefed.zip · 5 pts · 32d
Oh hey, my lemmy.zip account made the blocklist. Mum, look, mum, I'm ^quasi^ famous! :D
yetAnotherUser@lemmy.ca · 5 pts · 32d
For the nerds, another post (the one OP links to) stated that you can check the list by yourselves from the source by running the following command in the terminal:
(Reminder to NOT RUN any commands on your terminal you don't understand)
Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 31d
It's a way much bigger PITA to do it in Windows than in Linux.
yetAnotherUser@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 31d
True. However, there are still many ways to do it. If anyone reading this is curious, here are a few ways:
txtso you can read the file with Notepad).Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 31d
Yeah, I used almost exactly the last method you described.
Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 31d
I had to fetch the damn original list from their server, then (on my frigging Windows work PC) BASE64 decode it and gunzip it (something stupidly simple on Linux, less so on Windows).
On the upside I did get the warm feeling of finding my nick on the list.
AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 32d
Thanks! I couldn't find the list either. I'm there.
edible_funk@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 31d
I'm on the list! Woo!
ghost_towels@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 31d
Aww, I’m not on there. But I’m not really surprised, I don’t talk much.
irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 26 pts · 32d
Not surprising considering their instance banned activism
Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 31d
"identity politics"
Dude, just say "woke" or "DEI" or whatever it is other conservatives call "not being a bigot."
Not you, OP. The guy who wrote the policy.
LH0ezVT@sh.itjust.works · 14 pts · 31d
How dare people have opinions!!
Wait, is that an opinion? Fuck. Time to ban myself.
Prunebutt@slrpnk.net · 42 pts · 32d
Nice! I'm on it, too!
Now, how do I trigger a GDPR and force them to remove my name, just to annoy the dev?
hildegarde@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 41 pts · 32d
I'm disappointed. I need to become more spicy.
ramble81@lemmy.zip · 6 pts · 32d
Ditto
snoons@lemmy.ca · 41 pts · 32d
I'm on the list. 💅 I guess I'm too salty about the biosphere collapse.
VitoRobles@lemmy.today · 12 pts · 32d
Congrats! I'm a bit envious
criss_cross@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 32d
I’m guessing my anger about jackboot thugs abducting and terrorizing minorities got me on there.
Sergio@piefed.social · 34 pts · 32d
woah... I'm on the list. But I try to avoid politics online so I don't understand why?
Is it my promotion of !gothindustrial@lemmy.world ?
Or !sumo@lemmy.world ?
Or !bmoviebonanza@lemmy.world ?
oh wait it's gotta be !juggalos@lemmy.world ...
TotallynotJessica@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 9 pts · 31d
I think they just see you as too weird/unsightly.
Sergio@piefed.social · 7 pts · 31d
Oh... thank you. That's such a nice explanation. Seriously, I was feeling a bit down earlier today and this snapped me out of it. I'ma screencap this and look at it next time I'm sad.
TotallynotJessica@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 10 pts · 31d
There is no greater honor than being seen as a freak by people with sticks up their ass.
gandalf_der_12te@feddit.org · 4 pts · 31d
i'm not on the list 😔 am i not based enough?
TotallynotJessica@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 31d
I guess you'll have to join me in the cringe corner 😔
gandalf_der_12te@feddit.org · 3 pts · 31d
what if the cringe corner was a closet and we held hands in it 🥺 👉 👈
TotallynotJessica@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 31d
tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 31d
Aw, I wanted to make the list for promoting sumo
Sergio@piefed.social · 3 pts · 31d
Maybe you oughta post more pictures of people in mawashi. When I first started posting on !sumo@lemmy.world, I tried clipping all the pics so they only showed "above the waist" so they wouldn't offend anyone. Then I figured wtf it's a sport and a traditional garment, anyone who gets offended by sumo wrestlers would prolly get offended by classical sculptures.
PyroNeurosis@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 30d
Gotta overcorrect and crop everything but the mawashi.
Sergio@piefed.social · 2 pts · 30d
Or better yet, tint the Mawashi so it's the same color as the wearer's skin.
zarkanian@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 31d
I'm gonna guess it was the Juggalos lmao
Sergio@piefed.social · 2 pts · 31d
If they banned !juggalos@lemmy.world I'd kinda understand. But they banned EVERYTHING I said, and I'm an active part of several niche subs...
wraekscadu@vargar.org · 32 pts · 31d
Why are people like this? This person once helped me out (kinda) for a comment rendering thing for my own client (I was unfamiliar with nested comments and how they worked with the API). It's so sad and frustrating to see people you had non zero respect for do something so shitty like this. Like... especially for a group of people SO FUCKING CORNERED ACROSS THE WORLD. What's the thought process behind this? So so shitty.
Chezus9247@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 31d
I seriously can't find a thought process behind this. This is such a weird thing to do.
TotallynotJessica@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 6 pts · 31d
I think they have a grudge against Ada for being too friendly with leftist instances, and/or find the vibe too unsightly in some way. Maybe we're too weird in ways he doesn't like, or maybe we're too anarchist adjacent (a lot of people on this side of lemmy are anarchists, as queer people have every reason to dislike and distrust most governments right now). Regardless, we're too controversial of a vibe for their view a "non-toxic" fediverse.
captainlezbian@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 31d
The idea of a non-toxic fediverse is so silly. Yeah there should be a variety of experiences within it, but the whole thing about federation is that it enables us to find places that align with us.
I'm still on .world because they haven't pissed me off enough to bother changing and they were the main ones defederated from exploding heads when I signed up. I'd probably go blahaj if I were to change these days. But like, the ability to change and to go to an instance that aligns with your beliefs in who it's on speaking terms with is the point.
Banning blahaj and db0 won't make the fediverse respectable, and it's something an instance or user should do, not a moderation tool
zarkanian@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 31d
There is no thought process. That's the problem.
I gave up trying to understand bigotry. It's just senseless.
Bluewing@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 31d
The ability for humans to do bad is equal to their ability to do good. And we all do both. The best you can hope for is that they do at least slightly more good than bad over their lifetime.
bluesheep@sh.itjust.works · 31 pts · 31d
Holy shit my username made the regex list. I have never been more proud of anything I've ever achieved online with my shitty fucking posts
EDIT:
They're really not trying to be subtle here now are they
TotallynotJessica@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 17 pts · 31d
They didn't think people would see it, and tbf nobody discovered it before now.
Draconic_NEO@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 12 pts · 31d
They're probably hoping it'll blow over and that people will forget and forgive them for it. We can't let that happen or they'll do the same thing again, or worse.
TotallynotJessica@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 11 pts · 31d
Anywhere this behavior isn't shunned will be overtaken by it
captainlezbian@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 31d
I won't forgive them despite them flattering me
hildegarde@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 6 pts · 31d
Who actually reads source code?? I only read municipal code for fun, not software.
TotallynotJessica@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 7 pts · 31d
When they have a technical issue that needs troubleshooting I guess
LH0ezVT@sh.itjust.works · 27 pts · 31d
The funny thing, with all regex / wordlist bans, is that it will catch waay more than it is intended to. The old Scunthorpe problem. I wonder how it must feel to browse this with random words triggering the filter.
From a quick glance, this guy does not like politics, NSFW stuff, making fun of mod abuse, anime, internet speech / "reddit-isms"... this must be a very empty place then
donutaud15@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 31d
I guess this person really likes their mother's basement and doesn't like interacting with anyone other than their hands. Or potentially their mother's hands.
Bluewing@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 31d
Roll Tide!
itsjustachairmary@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 31d
'Making fun of mod abuse'
Lmfao
zarkanian@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 31d
Yeah, WTF would you use a regex? I guess they want to filter out that user if they have another account with a slightly different name?
captainlezbian@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 31d
I'm just sad they didn't try to hit violet with one lol
LH0ezVT@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 30d
Oh wait, yes, there is no
.*violet.*in there. Weird.Assassassin@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 26 pts · 32d
I just can't believe I'm finally part of a cool kids club
kyoko916@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 24 pts · 31d
Let me see if I get it.
Someone maakes a Lemmy client, which function is just to interact with fediverse side if lemmy, then the developers just silently blocks everything they don't like, probably because it's too woke or something like that.
Why even development a client to begin with??
Taleya@aussie.zone · 24 pts · 31d
The actual adminowner of my instance took time out of their very very busy day to present me personally with a medal for my inclusion. I shall wear it with Pride
mathemachristian@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 24 pts · 31d
I was in the OG blocklist as "garden-variety crackpot" https://github.com/paulo-roger/tesseract/blob/2b53f17a5506b7c4b3ad1d5c26af49662f03a478/src/lib/blacklists.ts#L2711-L2725
. Although I'd like to object to the "garden-variety" part, my crackpottery is artisanal.
lavenderbreton@slrpnk.net · 24 pts · 31d
I'm banned 😎
TotallynotJessica@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 13 pts · 31d
So jelly!
possumparty@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 23 pts · 32d
More evidence that liberalism is just diet conservatism.
Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 31d
Judging by their push for things like Civil Society Surveillance and making Money and those who have most of it be a higher Power than a state controlled by democratically elected representatives (i.e. to turn Democracy into Oligarchy), I would say it's actually Fascism-adjacent.
KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 23 pts · 32d
We should all just end our messages with perchance so anyone using tesseract can’t see them.
Mohamed@lemmy.ca · 12 pts · 32d
Perchance is blocked keyword?
KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 18 pts · 32d
It is indeed. Perchance.
zarkanian@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 31d
That's hilarious! Just all "This particular word annoys me."
Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 21 pts · 32d
My paranoia's paying off. I'm noticed enough to be blocked by a random asshole.
VitoRobles@lemmy.today · 11 pts · 31d
Not me. Am I not worthy?!
Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 9 pts · 31d
It's not paranoia when somebody was, in fact, watching you.
crypt0cler1c@infosec.pub · 20 pts · 32d
I didn't make the list. My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined.
parrhesia@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 31d
I'm too lazy to check but I am also disappointed
erinmeow@piefed.blahaj.zone · 19 pts · 32d
do u see he did make whole list of russian media(tyyy for dnsblocklist is actually hard to find cleanish one),
also fck see how he forked anubis and replaced adorable jackelgirl to some ugly generative trash
Skullgrid@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 32d
I'm sorry, I can't go through every link on here, but there's enough problems coming out of the government of russia to merit that one
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?search=russian+interference+in+elections&go=Go&ns0=1
amoogus@lemmy.ml · -21 pts · 32d
Assassassin@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 11 pts · 32d
"actual news like RT" hahahahahahahahahahahahaha
I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 32d
Lol. Lmao even.
Jimbo@pawb.social · 18 pts · 31d
Oh no my queer as hell ass is not on the list. Perchance I have not been doing enough ACAB
FrowingFostek@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 32d
I didn't get picked up. Maybe I'm a liberal 😨
TotallynotJessica@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 8 pts · 31d
Ikr? I'm so frigging pissed that they never encountered me on !world@lemmy.world or !politicalmemes@lemmy.world. I guess I didn't put enough time into arguing with shithead libs who care more about bashing the left than those who actually destroyed their beloved "democracy"
GrantUsEyes@piefed.zip · 4 pts · 31d
This is call for us to enter a "dark woke" arc.
djsoren19@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 16 pts · 31d
Going to take the fact I'm not in the list as proof that I'm not hornyposting enough and could go further
nutbutter@discuss.tchncs.de · 15 pts · 31d
Yay!!
BigDanishGuy@sh.itjust.works · 8 pts · 31d
Oh come on!
What did you do to get in that list?
Update, grep is case sensitive. I'm still not on the list, but it's strange that a single user is both mentioned by instance and a general regex.
@DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works what did you do to deserve such an honor?
lime@feddit.nu · 12 pts · 31d
... is your terminal okay?
BigDanishGuy@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 31d
I really don't know. It's termux on android, and I haven't used it that much before, so it's default settings I guess. But it beat getting up and finding my laptop.
Grimy@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 32d
I'm banned and honestly I get that, but what the hell did the WholesomeYuri sub ever do to this guy?
Grail@multiverse.soulism.net · 11 pts · 32d
Yuri is gay. I think this guy hates gay people.
TotallynotJessica@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 6 pts · 31d
It must be so boring being a phobe
Wren@lemmy.today · 14 pts · 32d
I'm happy with the consolation prize, my communities made it to the list. Here I thought they were too small for anyone to give a damn.
captainlezbian@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 31d
I'm honored to be on it, and surprised you aren't
Grail@multiverse.soulism.net · 13 pts · 32d
I didn't make the list, but the instance I admin did, so I guess the liberals fear Me.
PDFuego@aussie.zone · 12 pts · 31d
Is it because I once said I hope Gina Rinehart's entire family spontaneously combusts? Because I stand by that.
TotallynotJessica@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 10 pts · 31d
Can't even say you want billionaires to die without libs getting all butthurt, smh. Do they not realize that the rich are responsible for making me scared of getting disappeared by the Gestapo? I'm afraid for my life thanks to them supporting Trump, but these pieces of shit want to tone police my fears into non existence. Them banning a handful of maga instances doesn't change the fact that they're helping those very people.
psycotica0@lemmy.ca · 12 pts · 31d
Wait, aren't you a blahaj user? Doesn't that mean they didn't need to block you because they already blocked that whole server you rode in on?
Or did I misunderstand your comment...
fernsong582@lemmy.ca · 13 pts · 31d
The dev has such a grudge that not only will they block instances, but doubly ban specific users. Like a "eff this person in particular." They apparently blacklist linktr.ee links? And "🥺?👉👈". Like there's actual bots and spam but posts with "Hi, I'm an AI engineer based in Japan" are blacklisted.
Jayjader@jlai.lu · 6 pts · 31d
the "AI engineer base in Japan" thing is so fuckin' weird. has there been an account repeatedly posting that?
not_IO@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 12 pts · 31d
didn't they ban all of blahaj? so we can feel accomplished
hildegarde@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 12 pts · 31d
They banned blahaj on the blacklist in the code, but tesseract also loads a secret ban list from his server that includes individual user accounts and regex for hiding those with accounts on multiple instances.
The reality is anyone could have checked and found this the whole time. But if its easy to check, no one does. Bystander effect an'at.
TotallynotJessica@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 13 pts · 31d
It was definitely not meant to be found, even if they claim otherwise.
sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 6 pts · 31d
And the funniest part about that...
Is that it was essentially discovered by accident, almost immediatelty.
So... its also an incompetently executed attempt at subversion.
The libs are apparently not sending their best.
TotallynotJessica@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 6 pts · 31d
Maybe this is their best
itsjustachairmary@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 31d
itsjustachairmary@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 31d
Yes!
Smorty@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 11 pts · 32d
wait where can I find that list? am I in it?..
EDIT: okay alright y'all can stop responding now...
hildegarde@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 13 pts · 32d
Info about downloading the secret block list is in this thread in blahaj announcements.
I did check and you are not in it, but several other blahaj regulars are.
Serinus@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 32d
It explains how in the linked post, although I'm technically minded enough to not want to give them another hit.
So if someone has a mirror, that would be cool. pastebin still a thing?
hildegarde@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 4 pts · 32d
It has 3755 lines. I downloaded a copy this morning. The secret ban list is downloaded by tesseract at runtime so the dev can malwareban anyone at anytime. That's also where we get the copy.
I don't know how pastebin works tho.
Serinus@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 32d
You paste here and post the link.
https://pastebin.com/
hildegarde@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 32d
Due to pastebin's auto filters it refuses to post. The file does ban many with strong opinions, and transgender people, it also bans vile trash, some of which has URLs of which cannot be posted to a public pastebin. Sorry.
Serinus@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 32d
Aww, thanks for trying anyway.
Serinus@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 32d
https://copyparty.adrian.place/u/?doc=policy.json
LaunchesKayaks@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 32d
Hey, would you be able to see if I'm on it? I won't be able to try for a few hours and will 1000000% forget to do it later. You'd have my eternal gratitude lmao
hildegarde@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 32d
You're not on the list.
LaunchesKayaks@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 32d
Kinda disappointed ngl
TotallynotJessica@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 4 pts · 32d
It explains how in the linked post, although I'm not technically minded enough to understand how to do it. I just know I'm not in it, so considering you're a fellow blahaj.zone creature who doesn't get too involved in politics elsewhere, you probably aren't either.
_cnt0@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 32d
computer says no
VitoRobles@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 32d
Someone uploaded it here
https://copyparty.adrian.place/u/?doc=policy.json
irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 32d
https://bin.disroot.org/?74d13a8db046d859#2tEwviTK1THmM7da1VRNdTTX6hmLgPU5wuethGLfjQhW
BonkTheAnnoyed@piefed.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 32d
Oh snap! Boring little old me made the list lol
yetAnotherUser@lemmy.ca · 11 pts · 32d
Don't worry, TotallyNotJessica. It's possible you don't interact in the same communities the dev does, and I think that's the reason you aren't in the blacklist.
(Removed unnecessary P.S. comment)
Jankatarch@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 31d
It's weird.
Violet08 is banned while femcelmemes is not. Blahaj is banned while TotallyNotJessica is not.
Do they have inverted criteria for communities and users? What are the criterias? Will someone please tell me how do I get on this list!?
flamingos@feddit.uk · 4 pts · 31d
I mean, they wouldn't have to ban TotallyNotJessica or femcel memes if blahaj as a whole is banned, they'd both be caught in the instance ban.
yetAnotherUser@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 31d
Oh, and if you want to get banned, you must:
I don't see much benefit in doing this, but have fun.
EDIT: I forgot to say that you should also avoid any of the keywords in the blacklist, otherwise your post/comment might not show up at all in the dev's feed.
yetAnotherUser@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 31d
I believe the dev isn't actively looking for things to ban. They probably just ban things whenever they find them at their feed. TotallyNotJessica admits she doesn't post much outside of blåhaj zone, so it's not unlikely that she never appeared on their feed.
TotallynotJessica@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 4 pts · 31d
That is what I assumed too. I don't really venture outside of blahaj.zone often, especially not recently. I did use to argue with libs a lot on certain lemmy.world comms in the past; my very first posts on lemmy were political mud slinging, but I guess it wasn't enough.
Jankatarch@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 31d
Since it's opensource, is there any way I can add myself to the list?
psycotica0@lemmy.ca · 14 pts · 31d
Turns out the open source code was downloading a list of patterns from a hard-coded server path on load. So that file can't be edited by you. But you could write a patch to change the path to a different file you edited to block yourself!
TotallynotJessica@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 9 pts · 31d
Idk. @Quokka@quokk.au wanted to commit her instance to the list, but it wasn't on codeberg so she couldn't.
zarkanian@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 31d
You should open a PR to add yourself!
DupaCycki@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 31d
Making it to the secret Tesseract blacklist may be my biggest accomplishment in life so far
RVGamer06@sh.itjust.works · 11 pts · 31d
I'm not on the list😔 do i have to :3 more?
TotallynotJessica@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 9 pts · 31d
Definitely. This post was partially an effort to get senpai to notice me
AzuranAurora@piefed.ca · 3 pts · 31d
:3 intensifies
captainlezbian@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 31d
Just declare your eternal loyalty to the proletariat and chant "death to the oligarchs"
Or something idk why I'm on there, I'm actually not super open about my leftism on here because my beliefs involve nuance
Draconic_NEO@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 11 pts · 32d
I'm happy to see this blowing up. Hopefully more people become aware of this developer's disgusting behavior, and either don't use Tesseract at all, or contribute to db0's fork to help keep it afloat. Since he's been talking about getting rid of it completely after Lemmy 1.0
sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 10 pts · 31d
... i hereby dedicate my spot on the list to Prodigy.
90s techno noises, etc.
TotallynotJessica@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 4 pts · 31d
I'm definitely the bitch you hated, filth infatuated
sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 31d
I think us bitches are getting just a wee bit tired of being smacked up by idiot bigot cry bullies.
SeventySeven@sh.itjust.works · 10 pts · 32d
I made the list! I'm just finding this out now, I'm not familar with tesseract though or how it exactly works, does that mean the reason I cant use oldsh.itjust.works old reddit style layout because of this? I've been having issues with loading posts using oldsh.itjust.works, so maybe this is why!
Luci@lemmy.ca · 9 pts · 31d
I’m kinda pissed I didn’t make the list I’m toxic as hell :(((
SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 9 pts · 31d
Oh damn, even you didn't make it, either? Bizarre.
TotallynotJessica@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 9 pts · 31d
I just think the dev never spends time here. This place is 75% queer shitposts, 20% wholesome personal stuff, and like 2% anything related to controversial politics. It's not that people here aren't radical, it's that we mostly have fun here.
JackbyDev@programming.dev · 9 pts · 31d
How Tesseract dev felt before getting found out.
Just watched this movie for the first time on Tuesday. I highly recommend it. (The Lawnmower Man.)
lime@feddit.nu · 6 pts · 31d
man i love that early 90's cg. poor job looks vacuum-packed.
JackbyDev@programming.dev · 3 pts · 31d
I thought it was funny that Jobe got addicted to short form content. Larry was even like "ya know, there's something to be said for slower absorbsion, like reading a good book."
samus12345@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 31d
This came out a year after Terminator 2. They have no excuse.
lime@feddit.nu · 2 pts · 31d
i think "a tenth of the budget" is a pretty good excuse honestly
samus12345@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 31d
Good point! But it does show that there's a big variety of "90s CGI".
lime@feddit.nu · 2 pts · 31d
that trend continued, i'd say. ever seen shark boy and lava girl?
zarkanian@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 31d
I think it's hilarious how they tried to put Stephen King's name on that thing and he had to sue to get it taken off. The only connection to King's story is one scene. Everything else is different!
JackbyDev@programming.dev · 1 pts · 31d
Well I loved it!
zarkanian@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 31d
I need to re-watch it. It's been a looooong time.
JackbyDev@programming.dev · 2 pts · 31d
Do a little grass, I think it helps the mowing experience.
umbraroze@slrpnk.net · 9 pts · 30d
First I was like "oh, guess I'm not active enough to be noticed", but there's people on the list who barely posted anything.
Guess I just didn't manage to say something that would have annoyed this person. Like talking about burger units and shit. 🤷🏻♀️ I'm just a weird anarchy hippie nerd trans girl, don't ban me. Oh crap I said it out loud
KernelTale@programming.dev · 8 pts · 31d
I am not there T^T
SuperNovaStar@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 8 pts · 32d
To be fair, it's a pretty exclusive list
Tiresia@slrpnk.net · 8 pts · 31d
Good news, they namedropped you in their explanation comment:
yetAnotherUser@lemmy.ca · 8 pts · 31d
Wait, I just learned that the original Tesseract dev, paulo-roger, left the project many years ago. Here's the reason he gave:
Hmm, I wonder who paulo-roger was talking about 💀💀(I've mistook who paulo-roger was talking about... Thanks, TotallynotJessica!)
BlonksClown@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 32d
TotallynotJessica@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 7 pts · 31d
And they smell like rotten fish
Draconic_NEO@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 7 pts · 31d
I bet he wears the same yucky underwear every day.
ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 31d
I'm in the user regexes for some reason.
Aganim@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 31d
*Checks username*
Weren't you supposed to be omniscient?
ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 31d
That's just my name. But if I have a guess, the dev thinks I'm an extremist. (I'm not, I have statistics on my side, also I don't want to do what I want out of spite but the betterment of society.)
irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 7 pts · 32d
If anyone wants to know if they're on the list: https://bin.disroot.org/?74d13a8db046d859#2tEwviTK1THmM7da1VRNdTTX6hmLgPU5wuethGLfjQhW
gegil@sopuli.xyz · 7 pts · 32d
I did not get this at first. The only thing i found by searching online was an ocr program, which do nt think was in any way related to lemmy. Only after this post i found out that tesseract is also a same named lemmy client.
hildegarde@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 11 pts · 32d
Tesseract is a web UI for Lemmy. It was one of the options for interfaces on blahaj zone until recently.
This UI designer decided to sneak malware into his UI to keep you from seeing instances, websites, and users he personally disagrees with.
AlligatorBlizzard@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 32d
I'm surprised Ada didn't find this at the same time db0 did for the same reason - whole instance shadow ban, maybe she dropped it before the ban?
hildegarde@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 4 pts · 31d
As far as I'm aware, the change that would have banned the entire instance was pushed in an update to tesseract, that had not yet been installed to blahaj. Ada mentioned she was waiting for a response from the developer before taking any action. From what I've heard she was aware at the same time and she's in regular contact with other instance admins.
The delay was in response not knowledge as far as I can tell.
Embargo@lemmy.zip · 6 pts · 30d
I made the top 20! This is where I'll take a bow and go to bed. Goodnight, friends.
magic_smoke@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 6 pts · 32d
I didn't even wanna be on it anyways >:(
HalfSalesman@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 31d
I want to know if I'm on it and work 15 hours today between 2 jobs. Could someone check for me?
stylusmobilus@aussie.zone · 6 pts · 31d
Yisss I made it!
slides on knees across garage floor
skins knees
rektstarsceosu@lemmy.zip · 6 pts · 32d
what am i missing, who tf is tesseract 😭
rektstarsceosu@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 32d
nvm found it. it was yet another frontend. is grok vibecoded that shit?
Mohamed@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 32d
No. Its unfortunately a fan favorite and popular UI for Lemmy.
QuinnyCoded@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 30d
the dev of Voyager has the option to do the funniest thing ever next April fools
KernelTale@programming.dev · 4 pts · 31d
Now that there is something a little bit relevant any Lemmy client recommendations? I've been using Jerboa for a year and it feels as if it were stuck on a same beta version without any progress since then.
DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social · 4 pts · 30d
Should have been aggressive enough that the shitlibs are scared of you instead of holding you in the patronizing contempt they reserve for the disenfranchised.
sad_detective_man@sopuli.xyz · 4 pts · 32d
I can't run the script for fetching usernames. Is it a Linux thing? I thought Curl was powershell
AdrianTheFrog@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 32d
Anyways here's what it is at the moment
https://copyparty.adrian.place/u/?doc=policy.json
snoons@lemmy.ca · 13 pts · 32d
LOL IT'S ME I'M THERE HAHAHA
VitoRobles@lemmy.today · 5 pts · 32d
Congrats!
AdrianTheFrog@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 32d
some things I though were funny:
community regex: "^Yuri|^WholesomeYuri"
filtered domains: "*.itch.io", "bit.ly", "forms.google.com"
keywords: "🥺?👉👈", "enlightened centrist", "italian plumber", "Perchance"
VitoRobles@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 32d
Damn I'm not even on the list. Wack.
AdrianTheFrog@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 32d
Curl is a foss utility that's kinda everywhere
_cnt0@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 32d
You can try with unix tools for windows. But I can tell you, you're on the list
sad_detective_man@sopuli.xyz · 17 pts · 32d
Thank you. Now I feel like
_cnt0@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 32d
You're welcome :)
Anafabula@discuss.tchncs.de · 5 pts · 32d
IIRC Powershell has an alias called
curlthat is very incompatible with real curl. Windows does include the real curl ascurl.exeirelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 32d
https://bin.disroot.org/?74d13a8db046d859#2tEwviTK1THmM7da1VRNdTTX6hmLgPU5wuethGLfjQhW
inconel@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 32d
It just looks like personal blocklist considering some users appear on the blocklist more than once (though regular blocklist doesn't allow duplicate)
TotallynotJessica@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 7 pts · 31d
It's a personal blocklist forced on everyone who uses Tesseract without their consent.
nightlily@leminal.space · 3 pts · 31d
Reminds me of when Wil Wheaton got mad at trans women around the time when Twitter people started sharing their blocklists. For whatever reason his personal blocklist became one of the most popular shared ones, especially amongst celebrities. He managed to get most of trans Twitter blocked by people who had no beef with us. No apologies from him of course.
zarkanian@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 31d
Where can I read more about this?
pelespirit@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 32d
I think we could stand do the most popular instance as well. I'm pretty sure people are shadowbanned there as well.
TotallynotJessica@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 5 pts · 32d
Feel free to crosspost this wherever. I'm not active outside of blåhaj, so I'm not sure where would be best.
AllukaTheCutie7725@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 30d
I looked and I'm not on the list 😭 (I haven't been active enough)
nightlily@leminal.space · 3 pts · 32d
Huh, I’m on it and I mean, I guess I complain about liberals and the right a bit but that’s wild.
ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 31d
I am kinda surprised I am not on there. But then again, the users that would want me on the list would be way more mad about me not being on it, so it's kinda win-win for me.
Karasu@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 31d
Im not on the list which is unsurprising as i never comment xD its scary
ellypony@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 30d
I'm not there. My game is faltering.
N0tTr0xy@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 5d
You are just too nice. And you are wrong, blahaj.zone was not banned. Users and communities on there were banned, but neither the lemmy nor the piefed instance.
dbzer0 on the other hand had an instance ban.
MorPolitics@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 31d
Gates9@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 30d
I’m a normie how do I search the blacklist for my username?
Rivermoonwolf@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 30d
fushuan@piefed.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 26d
I have been informed that apparently all of blahaj was banned, that's why your or my specific username wasn't on the list. We all were :)
AlteE@programming.dev · -19 pts · 32d
Mods of blahaj wouldn't think twice to ban this dev for being annoyed by lgbtq+ community. No wonder that this dev just did the same.
VitoRobles@lemmy.today · 16 pts · 32d
Bro it's a frontend. It's sole job is to consume data and make shit pretty.
AlteE@programming.dev · -8 pts · 32d
You are telling me this like I am that dev or, at least, know him. But there is a difference between protecting someone's actions and explaining them or guessing what was the motivation. This dev has successfully dealt some damage as was intended, that is all. At least, it was just a shady censorship filter and not some real malware.
VitoRobles@lemmy.today · 7 pts · 31d
No - I'm telling you because you're saying that a community would do something, so this dev in his app has the right to do the same thing?
AlteE@programming.dev · -4 pts · 31d
Maybe no right, but certainly an ability. Because, how else would you revenge the mods/admins on the internet rather than throw some malware to them? (rhetorical question)
VitoRobles@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 31d
Then loop back to my original comment.
Cassa@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 8 pts · 32d
Ah yes, the public and clearly communicated modlog vs secret banlist that gives errors db0 devs kept looking for.
Its okay to not know stuff, but try to figure stuff out before you speak?
AlteE@programming.dev · -4 pts · 31d
That is the whole point. Clearly visible, easily editible filter list about which it is clearly stated in documentation was the right thing to do. But, it wasn't an effective solution, since most admins would have changed this list almost immediately resulting in very small efficiency of this filter, compared to what was initially intended. And since this dev explicitly wanted to affect maximum amount of people for maximum amount of time, this solution was better. Many people naively think that others would play by the rules delivering their revenge/justice or whatever, but this is not how it usually happens.
zarkanian@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 31d
I don't think anybody's confused about why it was done that way, just like nobody is scratching their heads over why a scam email has forged headers.
Cassa@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 31d
Trolls are gonna troll 🤷 you do make an impressive word salad.
For anybody else. The banlist tesseract had is not on the github, it's downloaded at build, called for and hidden on purpose.
sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 7 pts · 31d
Hey buddy, from me to you:
Go fuck yourself.
Your account is 2 weeks old.
What the fuck would you know about moderators, on any comm, any instance?
AlteE@programming.dev · -5 pts · 31d
You can do pretty much the same, toxic person.
It doesn't take much time to figure out the rules here once you get used around and browse communities/modlog a few months deep. And it became clear to me, that there exist a lot of red flag moderators, whom it is reasonable to avoid engaging with. And also there exist other situation: when mod is relatevely OK, but the community itself is awful.
So, counter-question: you are seriously telling me that mods of blahaj instance don't ban(especially permanently) on spot for any criticism/phobia towards LGBTQ+ community?
sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 5 pts · 31d
I'm seriously telling you to go fuck yourself, for you to say what you've said here, you'd frankly have to be pretty stupid, and arrogant.
Again, you don't know what the fuck you're talking about.
A hidden banlist on an open source frontend fron an open source discussion forum is not comparable to an openly stated and discussed policy or ruleset.
Again, you have to be stupid, and arrogant, to think otherwise.
Please go fall ass first on a rake.
AlteE@programming.dev · 0 pts · 31d
1 year old account and still haven't learned to be a normal person and not a toxic b*tch. Good luck having the same attitude IRL and not get a solid feedback.
zarkanian@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 31d
I think we found the dev.
Noel_Skum@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 31d
Maybe you’re correct but what you fail to take into account is that Blahaj wouldn’t be underhand and secretive - plus the vast majority (maybe even all) of the instance users would agree with such a move.
Regexing an enormous blocklist in a front end whilst keeping it hidden from users is completely different.
Blahaj, by the nature of its composition, heavily mods to stop the place from turning into a toxic clusterfuck.
AlteE@programming.dev · -3 pts · 31d
Somewhere lower in this thread I explained(my opinion) why this dev has used this tactic of expressing points of view instead of simply presenting a modifiable, clearly visible and documented filter with a default option, that represents views of this dev. I don't say that this dev is right, but I can understand the logic and motivation that were used to do so. And, yes, I can also be wrong. I don't deny it.
Noel_Skum@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 29d
I have no problem with the blocklist as is, just it’s clandestine implementation on unknowing others that I took umbrage with.