This design looks so cheap to me, it's just a bunch of random covers, there is no information about the movies presented in any way, the covers are way too big and take up an inordinate amount of space and there is nothing breaking up sections, design is just so fucking dumb now, fuck mobile
rant over đ
182 Comments
sylver_dragon@lemmy.world · 151 pts · 5d
UI's for movie streaming services are not designed to help you find something to watch. They are designed to keep you "engaged", which means in the platform and not realizing that the pool of actually interesting things is about as deep as a puddle. Everything about streaming sites' design is user hostile and this is a classic example of that.
psx_crab@lemmy.zip · 28 pts · 5d
Isn't Jellyfin the same design as all the streaming platform and they have nothing to gain for keeping you engaged?
yakko@feddit.uk · 75 pts · 5d
Yeah but they don't have highly paid UX design teams, so they're probably just copying design choices on the basis that they're trying to offer people a similar experience they can own.
unwarlikeExtortion@lemmy.ml · 29 pts · 5d
Also, it's FOSS so you can always make your own skin/theme.
RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 5d
That's bullshit. These are basic design principles they teach in every single design school in the world. You don't need "highly paid design teams" you just need someone with some education.
And this design philosophy has apparently invaded every single corporation on Planet Earth, so I really have no fucking idea where designers are even employed lately.
kieron115@startrek.website · 1 pts · 3d
It's the same reason why every "AI" logo looks like a butthole!
Sirdubdee@piefed.social · 1 pts · 4d
Smart designers found the life hack that they can join a highly paid team and work just enough to not get fired.
Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it · 1 pts · 5d
That's because they employ you and then force you to do bullshit things
RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 4d
I bought ice trays recently that had no way to stack, and literally shattered the second time I tried removing ice. Ice trays. ICE. FUCKING. TRAYS. WEVE HAD ICE TRAYS FOR LIKE 100 GODDAMN YEARS. WHY ARE WE STILL STRUGGLING WITH DESIGNING ICE TRAYS???
lagoon8622@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 4d
We await your contributions to the project (you won't ever contribute)
RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 4d
I have in the past, but I'm pretty sure Ive discovered recently I'm much happier just wrestling with words and word processors than graphics and 3D stuff and associated headache software which also does graphic or 3d stuff.
darkwing_duck@sh.itjust.works · 29 pts · 5d
Almost, but it has movie titles under the poster/cover and usually pulls the actual movie covers.
Once you click into it, it gives a shitton of detail about the movie.
psx_crab@lemmy.zip · 11 pts · 5d
Is this not the case with netflix/hbo? Sorry i never actually used any streaming service before other than Jellyfin so i don't understand what is the issue here
loutr@sh.itjust.works · 21 pts · 5d
Two things off the top of my head:
Jellyfin displays ratings from RT (and opencritic maybe?), while Netflix has stopped displaying their own user ratings years ago.
Jellyfin displays the full cast and crew. When you click an actor, director,... it shows you other media where they appear, even individual episodes. Netflix has none of that.
psx_crab@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 5d
Ohh, okay, that's actually horrible.
RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 5d
No. that's all behind another level.
GoatSynagogue@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 5d
So does Netflix etcâŚ..
SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social · 16 pts · 5d
Jellyfin has like six different view types to pick from, including one that doesn't even show images. And almost all the others show the title always visible below the preview image.
PatrickYaa@feddit.org · 5 pts · 5d
Jellyfin a) only has the content you feed it, so you already have some knowledge about it and b) you can expand it with plugins and make the design however you like it.
d00ery@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 5d
Good point! Alongside the UX dev comment there's probably a benefit in making the base theme familiar and easy to use for newcomers.
Funnily enough the first theme that shows for me on this site is a netflix theme đ ! https://jellywatch.app/hub/category/themes
AbsolutelyClawless@piefed.social · 1 pts · 5d
Everything others said, plus you can choose your client. For example, I use VoidTV for Jellyfin on my TV which offers a different design (though I use it because it's the only Jellyfin client where DD video+audio work).
joeljoelle@piefed.blahaj.zone · 4 pts · 5d
Yeah I suppose, you just gotta pick one thing and then it does the rest, or that's what they want probs
LordCrom@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 4d
If everything was already displayed, then the clicks per hour data point wouldn't be enough to get the new marketing hire their bonus for that mafe IP metric
NekoKoneko@lemmy.world · 75 pts · 5d
I'm so here for this.
It's genuinely infuriating to see a hundred years of movie poster art evolution discarded. It's the first part of a movie's artistic statement you ever see, and it gets summarily tossed in the trash so that Netflix's internal overworked engagement metrics team can spend 2 minutes grabbing random shots of different stars in the film, slap single-color generic font text all over it, and target twelve versions to different demographics to try to get more clicks.
It's even worse when I tell this to someone and they're like, "I don't really notice."
joeljoelle@piefed.blahaj.zone · 29 pts · 5d
Oh my goodness thank you I finally feel vindicated like no one around me ever mentions anything about it, I do need some more friends lol, but yeah as someone who does design and appreciates good design and knows what a hell creatives put ourselves through to go through the process of making something people love and then it all gets reduced to garbage like this
joeljoelle@piefed.blahaj.zone · 4 pts · 5d
Quite a few have popped up in the thread đ
NekoKoneko@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 5d
Yeeeup!
creamfresh@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 5d
This isnât the first time the aesthetic trend of film posters changed but Iâm sure every time it happened there was someone being grumpy about it.
Trampampoline@sh.itjust.works · 13 pts · 5d
You know what?! I was!!
Dreamworks knows what they did, homogenizing every single cover.
GoatSynagogue@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 5d
Which of these just have a single colour generic font on them that isnât literally the movies chosen font?
DandomRude@lemmy.world · 60 pts · 5d
My local movie theater in the heart of downtown has taken down all the movie posters outside the entrance and replaced them with a single screen that only shows ads for overpriced popcorn "deals".
Before, anyone walking by knew which movies were currently playing; now, all they know is just how outrageously expensive the popcorn is.
I haven't been to that theater since.
axx@slrpnk.net · 13 pts · 5d
You should tell them.
DandomRude@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 5d
Yeah, I guess I should. I just can't quite understand how anyone could fail to realize how absurd it is for a movie theater to use its most prominent advertising space not for promoting its movie lineup, but for food offerings.
To me, this strongly suggests that this movie theaterâwhich is part of a large chainânow sees its main product as food rather than movies.
I have absolutely no sympathy for that, and I can only applaud it when a company like that loses customers because of its own idiocy.
IWW4@lemmy.zip · 12 pts · 5d
Movie theaters main products has always been food.
Movie theaters have never made money off the movies they show, they make their money off the food they sell. It has been that way for at least 50 years.
AA5B@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 5d
That may be so, but the popcorn with chemical âpeeâ has never been what pulls in customers. The movies were always the draw, even if food was the profit. Advertising that food seems short-sighted: who cares if you sell popcorn to a higher percentage of customers but youâre pulling in fewer customers
ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 5d
Not really "never", but the standard movie deals have long called for the studios to get a 90% cut of the box for the first two weeks a movie runs, then it switches to a 50/50 split the rest of the way. Nobody seems to have noticed that this arrangement incentivizes movie studios to produce overhyped pieces of shit so that no good movie with serious staying power cannibalizes their own revenue stream. Just a total coincidence that most movies now are overhyped pieces of shit.
andros_rex@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 5d
Youâre right, but to the suits: what makes the profit is the drinks and the popcorn. Selling popcorn to a higher percentage of customers will make them more money, even if they sell less tickets, because the tickets donât make money. Hell, sell less tickets with a higher proportion of popcorn sales and you can probably schedule less people/save on labor.
IWW4@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 5d
Donât argue with me man, argue with the chain. They clearly agree with my position.
Jimmycrackcrack@lemmy.ml · 4 pts · 5d
Food probably actually is their main product. Granted it's been a very long time since I worked in a movie theatre but when I did they told us that of $14 or so of ticket price they only made about 50c and that candy bar sales were actually their real business.
DandomRude@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 5d
Yes, thatâs true, of course, but youâre not going to sell much if you donât promote the lineup that actually draws in the customers, would you?
I mean, before, all you had to do was walk past the movie theater to find out what was playing. Like many others, I walk past it very often, and Iâve often spotted a movie that interested me and then come back a few days later to watch it.
Now I have to actively check their website to find out what movies are currently playing, which I donât do very often.
The theater operators must be fully aware of thisâas well as of the fact that the food options theyâre now exclusively promoting are so expensive that theyâre more likely to deter potential visitors than attract them.
Itâs as if an attractive tourist destination were to advertise overpriced tourist-trap restaurants instead of the sights that make the destination appealing in the first placeâand that would at least make the inflated prices somewhat understandable.
That should be obvious to any marketer or, for that matter, the management in charge. Customers, of course, arenât interested in which products yield the highest profit margin for the company, but rather in what they get for their moneyâafter all, no one goes to the movies for the popcorn, but for the films themselves. Iâd say anyone who doesnât understand that is completely out of place in this business. The experience has to be the movie; everything else is just an afterthought.
GoatSynagogue@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 5d
Who just walks past the movies and spontaneously decides to see a movie because they saw a poster for it at the movies?
I would wager pretty much no one. People plan to go to the movies to see a specific movie already. Advertising food and drinks is going to be more beneficial.
DandomRude@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 5d
Well, I rarely plan to go to the moviesâonly on rare occasions, when I know a new movie I want to see is coming out.
I used to walk past the movie theater a lot, though, and see the posters and thatâs how I found out about movies I didnât know anything about or maybe knew of them but forgot. So it happened at least on occasion that Iâd call some friends to go see the movie Iâd just discovered by walking by the theater - on the weekend or something, not right away, of course.
I never really cared about the food options. Of course, Iâd still buy popcorn and stuff, but a discount on itâafter which the popcorn is still outrageously expensiveâwas just as little a motivation for me to go to the movies as any fancy seats or whatever. Thatâs all well and good, but itâs never been a reason for me to go to the movies. I went because of the moviesâwhich Iâd now have to research on my own, something I donât do.
So: It may well be that Iâm the exception. But in any case, I havenât been to the movies since they replaced the posters with food ads. As I said, thatâs simply because I donât actively look up the lineup and therefore donât realize that there might be a movie playing that would interest meâI certainly donât care at all about the current popcorn prices, though.
GoatSynagogue@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 5d
I find it hard to believe that someone can be on Lemmy and not have any clue about what movies are currently out, coming out, or finds it too hard to type âwhat movies are on at the cinemaâ into DuckDuckGo or whatever the search engine of choice is on Linux these days.
DandomRude@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 5d
Of course, I have a general idea. All I'm saying is that it was convenient to see what was playing at the movie theater when I walked by, as I do almost every day. You might not be able to imagine it, but the lineups also vary by countryâeven from city to city.
I just don't actively look up the movie schedule, which I could do, of course. But I just don't.
Itâs like, say, the menu at a cafeteria: I could look it up online, but since youâre constantly walking past it at work anyway, itâs nice when the weekly menu is posted right in front of it. That way, you can see whatâs for lunch even if you hadnât actually planned on going to the cafeteria.
AA5B@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 4d
I agree with the other guy here. I donât go to the movies often so have no reason to keep up with what is showing. While I know how to look it up, why would I?
Yes, I am an example where advertising what is showing some place I can see it with no friction could make a difference in whether I go
AA5B@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 5d
I usually goto the theater for a specific show, usually buy the ticket online âŚ.
BUT, there are times, such as when I didnât get a ticket ahead of time and my show is sold out, where Iâm in front of the theater deciding whether to go in. It I see an interesting looking movie, I might see that. If the food advertising worked, it would have the opposite of the intended effect âwhy donât we goto a restaurant instead ?â
GoatSynagogue@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 5d
How do you know your show is sold out?
AA5B@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 5d
Thereâs usually a signat the ticket booth. Maybe itâs alone, maybe title only,maybe itâs only visible from being at the window âŚ. Itâs generally not useful to pick an unexpected/unknown movie.
A good movie poster shows a snapshot of the genre, the basic plot, the main characters, all of which I might use to pick a movie
If itâs inconvenient to see my choices, If they make me go somewhere else, or goto their web site, Iâm at least as likely to just leave
GoatSynagogue@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 4d
So youâre saying that you get to the ticket booth without being able to see what movies are playing there?
Those movie posters in the OP do all that as much as you can in a single portrait style image.
IWW4@lemmy.zip · -9 pts · 5d
Dude come on.. No one goes to the theater to find out what is playing there and no one has done that for well over a decade.
Your rant is silly.
DandomRude@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 5d
Well, thatâs how it was for me at least. The movie theater is right in the middle of town, which is why youâre constantly passing by it anyway. I donât actively look up the current movie lineup, but I used to always be up to date because I passed by that theater almost every day and saw the posters.
Now Iâm no longer informed about the current lineup, but instead only about the absurd prices for popcorn and stuffâI canât say that motivates me to go to the theaterâs website to see whatâs playing.
Like I said: I havenât been to the theater since they took down the posters. Thatâs not because tickets and popcorn would be too expensive for me, but because I have no idea which movies are playing right now. I donât go out of my way to find out myself, but I used to walk past the theater and think, âOh, cool, movie xyy is playingâI should go see that with friends this weekend.â That effect is now gone so I don't go to the movies anymore.
IWW4@lemmy.zip · -1 pts · 5d
So what should be glaringly clear to you is that you are no longer the target demographic for theater attendance. That information is all relayed through the app on the phone, as are ticket sales, seating arrangements and really the purchasing of food.
AA5B@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 5d
I guess Iâm not the target demographic either then. I donât think I ever was really, but as a parent of teens, if I do go in, itâs likely to be a familyâs worth of tickets.
Maybe you think the rest of us are a minority that doesnât matter but it seems short sighted to disregard potential customers
IWW4@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 5d
I have been going to the movies for about 50 years and I never found out what was in the theater by show up and walking up to the theater. I sure didnt do it when I was taking my family there, I did it with the news paper or callingâŚ
Starting around 1999 I looked online.
DandomRude@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 5d
Even young people don't have the movie theater's app because it's completely useless. Only people who go to the movies regularlyâand are therefore already regular customersâmight use such an app. Of course, there are also promotional campaigns by the operators designed to encourage people to download their useless appâbut Iâm pretty sure most people only do that to get the discount and then delete the app right away.
Young people, in particular, can of course be reached through social media ads and the like, but you donât seem to realize how expensive that is. I can hardly imagine that a local movie theaterâor even a chain with many local locationsâcould achieve a halfway decent ROAS through this or other online marketing channels.
So in my opinion, itâs simply idiotic to ignore the prime advertising space this movie theater already hasâafter all, it costs almost nothing to hang a few extra posters on its own building. They could even do that alongside the food ads, which would make optimal use of this free advertising space. But they donât do that; instead, theyâve removed all the movie posters for a single screen with food ads no one cares about.
I canât understand the reason for that. If it has to be one or the otherâwhich isnât necessary at allâI think movie posters are much more effective. I mean, letâs be honest: Which is more useful to potential customers? Knowing which movie is currently playingâsomething you notice as you walk by, regardless of your ageâor an ad for a small discount on tacos or something similar, that are still very expensive even after the discount?
Oh, and just to be clear: Of course, it doesn't matter at all whether they're actually posters or screens displaying the movie lineup.
The point is the informational value, which, of course, exists in the real world as well, not just online.
AA5B@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 5d
This may also be why they overly focus on blockbusters. Without traditional means of seeing whatâs playing, Iâm only aware of a movie if itâs been heavily advertised. Youâd think trying the cheap route would be ⌠cheaper
DandomRude@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 5d
Yes, that seems plausible to me. I canât say why the movie theater near me isnât putting up posters or any info anymore, but since I donât know the details that led to this decision, it simply seems like an awful idea on the part of management to me.
It could be that the film distributors no longer provide the necessary promotional material, though that also seems pretty silly, since it would hardly incur any significant costs. It is also possible that there are some major players that don't want that because it would benefit them (small companies can't compete with big capital that is needed for online ad campaigns).
Maybe itâs also due to some city regulations.
I canât say for sure which or any of these might be the case, but I could very well imagine that itâs due to incompetence on the part of the theaterâs operators. Although this is a nationwide, I think even international chain, that doesnât seem to me to guarantee that thereâs a plausible reason. Maybe it was a cost-cutting suggestion from a completely incompetent consultant who looked at some Excel spreadsheets and came up with the idea that the labor costs for putting up posters were an expense that could be cut. That wouldnât surprise me at all.
But anyways, I just noticed that the movie schedule at my local theater is no longer visible when you walk by. To me, thatâs a loss, and I think some others might feel the same wayâbecause while you can, of course, find information online, since this is a local offering, it seems ridiculous to me not to provide the relevant information on-site as well, especially since it could be done very, very inexpensively.
chunes@lemmy.world · 46 pts · 5d
Web/UI design in general has sucked for at least 14 years now. Everything is spaced too far apart and text/images are too big. Icons are used for critical functionality instead of words. Pointless animations and gradients slow everything down for no reason.
Theoriginalthon@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 5d
Mobile first! MoBiLE FiRsT!!!
What that?
AI?
AI FiRst!!
driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br · 1 pts · 5d
For some apps, like YouTube or Netflix is TV first now. Make sense having big spaced icons, instead of a screen packed with information
ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 5d
The thing that drives me the craziest is when a long title or sentence or whatever is just truncated with ellipses, even when there is ENORMOUS blank white space around it that would easily allow the whole thing to be shown with word-wrapping. Youtube shorts is the most egregious example of this, and they recently managed to make it even worse. It used to be that you could open up the comments for a short and that would make the entire long title readable, but they "fixed" that so it stays ellipsized even then.
The app I use at work to clock in and out ellipsizes my own name halfway through my middle name, and it could be easily fixed by just stretching the control that displays the name all the way to each edge. I used to be a mobile app developer and I know exactly why this happens: the UI designer uses a bogus short name like "Bob Smith" on the original design document and the developer who implements it puts in a control just big enough for that. I used to encounter this kind of thing and I would fix it with common sense, and then the UI designer would get mad and insist that my fix be reverted, even though that resulted in something that couldn't display the information properly.
Duamerthrax@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 5d
Not just web ui. I've noticed this trend with applications as well. It's much harder to learn new applications now because you have to look up a guide for everything. Hovering over the icons doesn't even work as often as it should.
ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 5d
Because hovering/tooltips doesn't work for touchscreens and designers don't give two shits about anything else.
AA5B@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 5d
I just discovered a new function on my car - when I listen to music, a small rectangle appears with audio controls âŚ.. apparently it a tile that can be scrolled left and right to see other data. I never would have thought to try that if I didnât read it somewhere, no visual cues
dreamkeeper@literature.cafe · 2 pts · 4d
What was was so great about web design in 2012? It was barely any different back then except for being much worse on phones. And the main reason for your complaints is the need to accommodate phones and tablets.
If it were 2012 now I'm almost certain you'd be whining that we need to go back to the nonresponsive table designs of the 90s
I feel like I'm sharing this website with a bunch of crotchety old men who just want to complain about everything
chunes@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 4d
You're right, but 2012 is when they started paying too much attention to mobile and it started to bleed into everything else.
The 90s was clearly better, UI-wise, so yes, I wish people would go back to that.
AA5B@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 5d
Itâs ruled by clicks, rather than usefulness or friendliness
Routhinator@startrek.website · 1 pts · 5d
This is largely part of being on multilingual web. It costs a lot of engineering time and effort to try and translate a page to multiple languages, but icons infer meaning without this need.
dreamkeeper@literature.cafe · 1 pts · 4d
Not true ime, icons are supposed to have tooltip text to meet accessibility requirements. Icons are mainly used to save space, which helps on mobile.
Of course many companies suck at design and don't bother with the tooltip.
ikidd@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 40 pts · 5d
And make sure everything you mouseover trying to get a blurb or something instead just jumps around like a Jack Russell terrier trying to grab your attention. I fucking hate having to find a place to park my mouse so it isn't autoplaying some bullshit I have no interest in.
arran4@aussie.zone · 14 pts · 4d
Or worse finding a space where something doesn't auto play but scroll does work (when on a computer.)
TemplaerDude@sh.itjust.works · 32 pts · 5d
Everything about using the internet and its various âservicesâ has turned to absolute garbage in the last 15 years.
lightnsfw@reddthat.com · 15 pts · 5d
It's what happens when you let marketing dickheads be in charge of everything.
Mr_Dr_Oink@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 4d
Marketing has the polar opposite to the desired effect on me. I hate it so much that I actively avoid anything that is trying to sell to me. I make my purchasing choices based of a mixture of function, need and impulse (thanks ADHD)
I always check things out for myself and research carefully to find what I need.
This applys to tv as well. Which is why I set up jellyfin and put on an eyepatch.
Taleya@aussie.zone · 2 pts · 3d
when I am king we shall hunt MBAs for sport.
PineRune@lemmy.world · 28 pts · 5d
It's all about driving metrics now. If people need to click on/select a movie to see more about it then that adds numbers to page views and increases time spent in the app. They can also see who and how many do or don't watch a movie after clicking on it to further drive their algorithms.
joeljoelle@piefed.blahaj.zone · 6 pts · 5d
Yeah that makes since, they don't even have the mouse over information anymore you gotta click thru
LucidiaDiamond@sh.itjust.works · 24 pts · 5d
Itâs part of the infuriating trend on removing all words from UIs. God forbid the kids learn how to read a movie title. Using modern apps means navigating a never ending stream of hieroglyphs. The âsaveâ, âloadâ, ânewâ, âshareâ buttons are long gone; replaced with an ever changing series of symbols.
GoatSynagogue@lemmy.world · -2 pts · 5d
Am I looking at a different picture to all of you? Every single movie poster there has the name in plain English.
Every.
Single.
One.
Are you all illiterate?
snooggums@piefed.world · 5 pts · 5d
A lot of posters have stylized script in varying sizes and contrast to the background that generally looked fine on big posters but can be hard to read on small icons on a screen.
Just look at the Dune one in the example. Only the u and n are easy to see because the d and e habe no contrast with the background and the font is heavily stylized. Which Lord Rings and Hobbit movies are those? The subtitles are tiny as fuck.
GoatSynagogue@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 5d
You have to take the screen size into account. This isnât a mobile view, this is meant for a big tv. Even on mobile if you look at it in a regular size you can easily and clearly read every single title.
snooggums@piefed.world · 2 pts · 5d
On mobile the icons are about as big as my thumb. On a big screen they are about the size of my thumb held out at arms length. The ratio is basically the same and NO I cannot easily and clearly read every single title on mobile or at a distance, especially the three that I pointed out.
GoatSynagogue@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 4d
Thatâs not the mobile UI though. On mobile theyâre significantly bigger than that, with far less on the screen at the same time.
Like this:
You have trouble reading those on your phone? If you do I suggest going to see an optometrist and/or getting a much bigger phone and turn the resolution way down.
dreamkeeper@literature.cafe · 2 pts · 4d
These guys just want to whine and complain and reminisce about how much better the old days were.
snooggums@piefed.world · -1 pts · 4d
I didn't say every single one was hard to read. You took a screenshot of the ones that are easy to read even when the thumbnail is the size of my thumb. What I said was there were plenty like the examples I pointed out for Hobbit and Dune where they were hard or impossible to read.
You have trouble understanding the difference between a lot of titles and all titles? Maybe you should see someone who can teach you basic reading comprehension skills.
GoatSynagogue@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 4d
I took a screenshot of the first screen. Werenât you have a whinge saying that theyâre all using the same boring plain white font, and now youâre whining when some use different fonts that you claim are harder to read? Which is it - do you want boring and easy to read, or fancy design that sacrifices UX?
With ones like the lord of the rings, you can clearly see that it is a lord of the rings film, so just click on it and see which one it is. How do you suggest the show âThe Lord of the Rings: The Return of the Kingâ on the poster without it just being entirely big white text all over the poster?
Now what Netflix has makes it easy to distinguish between the movies the exact way OP wanted: using characters and plot points from the movies.
On your last statement, maybe you need to brush up on your common sense? Thereâs never going to be a UI that lets you easily read the full title, including sub-title, of every movie ever released, and its poster art, at every resolution from every viewing distance.
BradleyUffner@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 5d
What difference are you seeing that I'm not?
Dnb@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 23 pts · 5d
I think the main complaint is that your examples show detail about the movie, not just a close up of someone's face
For example jaws has a giant shark attacking a person. Compare that to a close up of Bane's face. You might not even realize it's a batman movie of you aren't familiar with it already.
Star wars poster shows space ships and laser sword.
Many movie posters are just the main characters now with head shots vs trying to tell a story.
I don't full agree with the op, just my interpretation of what I think they are complaining about
Sidyctism2@discuss.tchncs.de · 9 pts · 5d
I thought it was about the website design as opposed to the posters. Like why dont you get a small infobox for every movie with name, runtime, age-rating, plotsummary... Instead its just the posters
joeljoelle@piefed.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 5d
Yes you are correct it's mainly about the web site design, but the posters deserve their own post
postmateDumbass@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 5d
But words make people read and reading is one of videos competitors.
BradleyUffner@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 5d
I can see it now that you mention it. Thanks for the insight!
NarrativeBear@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 5d
Bingo, movie posters have absolutely gone down hill. They all look the same now.
andros_rex@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 5d
What we really need is an app that uses the Ghanaian movie posters.
Duamerthrax@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 5d
A Netflix listing doesn't need to be same as outside a movie theater. They can be more similar to a tv guide.
tanisnikana@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 5d
joeljoelle@piefed.blahaj.zone · 8 pts · 5d
LOL hey Tanis, like there is zero design elements at all besides the number, no flair, no color, no focus stealer, decades of design out the window lol
tanisnikana@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 5d
joeljoelle@piefed.blahaj.zone · 5 pts · 5d
It's a small world after all it's a small world.. lol. Yah it's kinda cozy đ Hope you're having a nice night!
tanisnikana@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 5d
Eq0@literature.cafe · 6 pts · 5d
As a random butting in: you are not annoying me at all! Thanks for sharing your work
tanisnikana@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 5d
joeljoelle@piefed.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 5d
tanisnikana@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 5d
gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 5d
This thread is so wholesome and it makes me happy đĽ°
I hope you both are having a lovely day!
joeljoelle@piefed.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 5d
Strange is my mana lol, I like it not only for the giraffe haha but the contast too not only the focus and color but the rusty machinery and the statue that looks like it might be from a merry go round.. nice!
lordbritishbusiness@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 5d
I'm finding myself having to guide people through UIs that have random symbols instead of an obvious word that says what it does.
It's annoying and getting worse.
You can easily use a word button to point to a side out menu with words, all language localised, that will actually make sense to a user instead of causing a tech anxiety attack!
I shouldn't have to scout and translate a UI for someone. If there's one bright side to all the AI being pushed at users is that it's at least able to communicate with actual text, and usually wants to be user-friendly instead of hostile.
Javi@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 18 pts · 5d
The future begins to look more and more like idiocracy everyday.
Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 5d
One of the programs I use at work had an overhaul recently. I wanted to find some notes from a previous day and couldn't figure out how. I asked someone to help and they told me to click some symbol in the corner of the page. I didn't even know it was supposed to be a button, hovering over it doesn't say what it does. It looked kind of like [ iii ] which tells me absolutely nothing about its functionality.
The overhaul was supposed to make things easier.
ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 5d
My favorite was the Windows Phone interface circa 2011 or so. They had a "save" button (I forget what you actually had to save on a phone) that was the standard floppy disk icon (ironic for a phone) except it was elongated and leaning to one side. When I first saw it, I thought it was a semi trailer tipping over and couldn't imagine what it was supposed to be for.
GoatSynagogue@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 5d
Iâm not seeing the relevance here? Where are the symbols that need translating here? Every single movie has the name written on it in plain English.
Muffi@programming.dev · 17 pts · 5d
And then combined it with thumbnails that change all the time because of A/B testing, which makes things even harder to recognize at a glance.
TheStaffmaster@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 5d
I mean, if they could let you click on the picture and it "flips" over and then there's some info and a few stills from the movie... This was how Video Rental stores worked for years.
WolfLink@sh.itjust.works · 13 pts · 5d
Click on a cover to get more info.
Honestly it feels a bit like browsing a shelf of books or DvD boxes or something. It certainly could have some improvements but I donât think this is that bad.
OrgunDonor@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 5d
I dont mind the Top 10 Carousel, but it would be nice if it has a Title and a Rating under it.
A lot of the "For You" algorithm stuff is fine, but I would prefer to have that in a Table. Title, Synopsis, Rating, length, Director, Cast. so if it sounds interesting, I can click through, but I am not going back and forth constantly.
Also gimmie a bit list I can sort. You can even have things like Movie Posters show when hovering over the name.
Iamaquantummechanic@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 5d
They don't want to show you ratings, because that will make it obvious how shit their catalog is.
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 4d
A big part of it is keeping you on the site, engaged. It's best if you are watching a movie, but browsing around is good, too. At least they aren't on a competitor's site.
mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 5d
but if you mouse over the cover, it starts autoplaying a preview and you can't stop it
lemmydividebyzero@reddthat.com · 12 pts · 5d
Yup. And when you click on that, it will probably start playing and not showing any information.
joeljoelle@piefed.blahaj.zone · 8 pts · 5d
Yea it kinda goes to a page with a random crappy screenshot from the movie that doesn't really say anything, and a really bad synopsis lol. I dunno if they are like, going to lock away all the information soon or what
snooggums@piefed.world · 2 pts · 5d
If it is HBO it will show you an ad for some other movie or show at a loud volume instead of the thing you picked!
boonhet@sopuli.xyz · 12 pts · 5d
The large cover design isn't even the worst bit, it's how hard it is to find concrete genre categories in a lot of these streaming apps. You'd have a bunch of overlapping categories like most popular whatever in whereever and so on, they quite literally hide the option to just go to movies -> genre -> list everything in some apps (Netflix was hard to find at some point).
Now I just pirate whatever old movies come to mind and stuff them in Jellyfin. Right now it's Minority Report. Up next... Hmm I downloaded man from U.N.C.L.E the other day, might watch that.
WildPalmTree@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 4d
Minority Report might feel a bit dated these days because so many stories have borrowed from it by now, but in its day, it was awesome. Must have watched it 20 times. Watch it, watch all the things you can based on stories by Philip K Dick, read his work and enjoy his mind.
I dont want Tom Cruise to get a single penny from me or my recommendations, but that movie is awesome!
boonhet@sopuli.xyz · 2 pts · 3d
Person of Interest is a whole TV show around a similar concept I guess (precog vs whatever the computer was called in PoI).
Anyway, I started downloads on a couple of other adaptations of his stories, total recall (the newer one because I'm more of a Colin Farrell fan these days than a Schwarzenegger fan, not that I dislike the latter or anything) and the adjustment bureau.
Been a while since I've seen either Blade Runner movie, not sure if I've seen them both or not, so those are also in the queue now. Thanks for the suggestion, I'd never actually heard of him before my current rewatch of Minority Report (I'd seen it before, just didn't know about the original author of the story).
WildPalmTree@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 3d
From memory, the new Total Recall is nothing compared to the original, even with the acting of Arnold. But that might be time colouring memories. But don't skip the original. Colin Farrel is awesome and amazing but the script is not decided by him.
jj4211@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 4d
This along with the changes to de-emphasize things like watch lists or even "continue watching" is basically the providers seeing how much they can influence users to watch what the provider wants instead of trying to cater to the users. If they find that people rarely navigate away from whatever 'top 10' or 'for you' suggestions, well, that means they have a great deal of freedom to only provide what is convenient for them and still get most of their revenue.
auzy1@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 5d
Doesn't piss me off as much as media players that show you what happens in the next episode as it's loading
SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 9 pts · 5d
I need to search movies and stuff like a database, not algorithmically from the covers in a database. I need more detail than that.
Trampampoline@sh.itjust.works · 8 pts · 5d
Social media told me gradeschoolers can't read now. I guess they don't want all those nonsense symbols everywhere.
agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works · 7 pts · 5d
Unpopular opinion: I want as little information as possible before watching a movie. At the other end of the spectrum, we have trailers which basically spoil the whole film. The only information I want about a movie is whether it's interesting, which I will get from audience sentiment online, and the only information I really need is the title.
Any additional information is either irrelevant to the movie experience, or a spoiler. Yeah I'm a weird little freak, and I like low-information posters. It's better than posters which give away too much
Trampampoline@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 5d
"Don't tell me anything about it."
searches the Metacritic score
MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 5d
IWW4@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 5d
..everyone of those tells you the name of the movie.
MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 5d
Right, was not GOG.
GoatSynagogue@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 5d
Which movie poster in OP doesnât have the name spelled out in big olâ plain English on it?
MahouOwl@piefed.zip · 1 pts · 5d
I do a similar thing with anime. I do read descriptions to know whether I'm interested or not, but I purposely do that a month before the next batch of anime starts airing. A month prior is late enough that anything that's going to air during that season will have been announced already, while also being early enough that I'm likely to forget what the description said by the time they actually start airing. I then make a Notepad list with what piqued my interest, and refer to that a month later.
And then yeah, I might add other shows on top of those from the opinions I hear online like you.
dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 6 pts · 3d
more information = less engagement
less engagement = quarterly OKRs get missed = team budget go down
I've been in software too long
Taleya@aussie.zone · 1 pts · 3d
you show me a random movie poster I'm not gonna give a shit.
You show me a summary that says "Roland Emmerich directs the end of the world" and I'm there with the biggest bucket of popcorn ya got
victorz@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 5d
Even if this is to drive engagement by clicking on items to gauge interest and collect metrics, I still don't see how that's more important than simply counting views and making an interface that's simple and pleasurable to use. I guess maybe the lack of proper market competition would allow this? This would be enough for me to leave the platform. (I'm running Jellyfin anyway.)
joeljoelle@piefed.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 5d
Well I'm certainly not paying for it haha. Yeah I agree, It's just too bad that once again all the color and joy has to be taken out of something and replaced with boring corporate bullshit. Like web design in the 90s was fun and experimental and there are all different kinds of sites and everyone had different ideas and they were all valid, it was a blast, but I guess that's kind of how things go once you're given unlimited options. Working with just the constraints of HTML was challenging and then CSS came along and made things easier but then they just kept adding more shit to it and now it's a bloat fest full of features that no designer will ever use to their potential because they don't do creative design anymore, then they added all those JS frameworks and blah
victorz@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 5d
To be fair, the frameworks allow you to accomplish stuff instead of just coding. The frameworks were inevitable. Doing anything at all that wouldn't be spaghetti in pure JavaScript would have resulted in in-house frameworks anyway, otherwise every single project would have become completely unmanageable. Even with native custom web components, there's just so much overhead in creating them and maintaining them. As well as performance impacts. So frameworks where always an inevitable evolution of the web, as it became, IMO as a web dev of almost two decades.
But we need native stuff. Standardized better ways of dealing with components that are less clunky than they have been for years now.
Aaanyway đ , yeah, these things come and go in waves. Minimal design, flashy shit, minimal, flashy. Hopefully they'll realize it's a shit interface to use in the long-run, assuming they even use their own service. (Bet you the employees don't even get their service for free.)
joeljoelle@piefed.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 5d
Meh, what they did was just eventually phase out front end designers, now you just have these all in one guys doing everything and you can tell because it all looks like SHIT
victorz@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 5d
I... would have to disagree with this. đ If you've ever tried to make a whole ass app with only vanilla custom web components, you wouldn't say all they did was have to do with design. They bring a lot of DX above the vanilla web platform.
Some frameworks bring more work đ But most of them do a lot of grunt work with the components themselves, which helps a lot.
But they might have had an unintended side effect of what you describe, as well. đ
joeljoelle@piefed.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 5d
I've been working with the web since the mid 90s I think I know what I'm talking about, but everyone has their own experience and perception. I love when people try to correct people when they have no idea who they are talking to, like you automatically know better? I think we're talking about different things anyways, you are talking about programming and I am talking about the loss of all artistic merit from web design
victorz@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 5d
Whoa, holy hell, bro? Why did you get so hostile? Defensive as fuck.
I said it was not only what you said, but more than what you said. I included your shit after my own take and perspective. đ¤ˇââď¸
Don't bring your insecurities into the mix and call it my fault, dude.
Yes, we were talking about separate aspects of the same thing, exactly. And I seem to know more about one side and you more about another one. Exactly what was going on, and then you snapped for no reason. đ
Thanks for the back and forth but you lost me on this one. Bye. đââď¸
joeljoelle@piefed.blahaj.zone · 0 pts · 5d
Yes I am defensive about it, ok bye.
FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 5d
You said it. Dogshit.
I'm so glad I've spent the last few years backing up the file of pretty much every bit of media I enjoy, because it's the visual equivalent of nails on a chalkboard.
MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip · 6 pts · 5d
I guess this should incentivize me to click them?
Well, it doesn't. It's just noise i ignore, because there's too much of it in the net anyway.
FluidBeef@quokk.au · 5 pts · 5d
You can watch any movie you want as long as itâs Mortal Kombat.
AA5B@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 5d
Even worse when the streaming site publishes it under multiple covers. So freaking annoying.
Way too often I see a cover I donât recognize and think it might be something Iâd like, but get a couple minutes in before realizing Iâve seen it before.
I imagine itâs marketing trying to see what cover gets the most clicks but at the cost of annoying its customers
Jimbabwe@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 5d
Are there really three Mortal Kombat movies in the top 10 on Netflix??
joeljoelle@piefed.blahaj.zone · 5 pts · 5d
This is HBO MAX, I know it looks exactly the same haha, and yes I think so, this movie platform is so confusing because they have a decent amount of classic cinema, a sprinkling of good modern movies, and then just a bunch of garbage blockbusters like that. It's like they're trying to do to much or it's in the middle of a transition, they will probably dump all those old classics soon I'm sure
CanIFishHere@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 5d
Which app is this?
daggermoon@piefed.world · 4 pts · 5d
It's the Windows 8 Metro UI.
Alaknar@sopuli.xyz · 2 pts · 5d
Metro UI included titles (inside the tile), so it very much isn't. It may be inspired, but it's like "let's take elements of the design and make it worse"
kludge@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 5d
It's pretty terrible for the VI/Blind community
OctopusNemeses@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 5d
I didn't look at all the comments, but this is intentional. One of the streaming platforms (probably Netflix or Amazon) originally made an algorithm that tailors posters to the individual. It's the usual A/B testing psychological bullshit designed to maximize your likelihood of watching a movie.
driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br · 7 pts · 5d
My wife watched The Get Down and another series I think it was called "Woke" (two series with predominantly black cast) back to back in the same weekend and the Netflix algorithm started to put the black character of every show as the center piece on every picture. Like we already watched house of card, we know that the black lobbyist guy is barely a support character, don't try to fool us putting him in the center of the poster
1984@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 5d
I'm so happy I don't have Netflix... That sounds extreamly manipulative. Interesting to know they do this but not surprising since it's Netflix.
lightnsfw@reddthat.com · 3 pts · 5d
One of the reasons I dropped Netflix was because they kept changing the pictures on shit so I'd think there was new content only to see id already watched it when I clicked on it. That got old quick. Don't have that issue when I just pirate shit.
1984@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 5d
Exactly. User hostile methods like this are a deal breaker.
Yaky@slrpnk.net · 4 pts · 4d
Ironically the free-but-with-ads Tubi is the least bad when it comes to UI. They have categories with exhaustive lists, and even labels for movies highly rated on RottenTomatoes.
Netflix sucked for a while (don't have it anymore). Apple TV is absolute shit now (subbed for a month to watch a few shows)
MirrorGiraffe@piefed.social · 3 pts · 5d
We were discussing how nice it was in the good old days to go into a rental shop and just look for movies based on the covers. Sure this design doesn't really hit that itch but more information is not always better.
It'd be nice to just have a bunch of movies that are just random within their main category. No algorithms or marketing.
peetabix@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 5d
Those movie posters are for people who have already seen the movie or at least of knowledge of the story.
E: I'm guessing.
joeljoelle@piefed.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 5d
This is not really about the posters but the web design and a general lament for web design, those are also a problem tbh
joeljoelle@piefed.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 5d
It's probably not even designed persay anymore just algorithmically generated all the way through, what a feat lol
Carighan@piefed.world · 3 pts · 5d
Same design Steam etc use for their video game stores and libraries. Yeah. :<
JigglySackles@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 5d
Probably designed like that to increase click through
HerbGrower@slrpnk.net · 6 pts · 5d
Because you have to click to work out wtf anything is.
SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de · 6 pts · 5d
The dangers of optimizing for the wrong numbers
Some marketer: "the click rate on this design is so much better than before, we will keep it!" And then not questioning or following up why
Seen it happening myself multiple times already
JigglySackles@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 5d
For sure. Never said it was a good thing from a ux perspective. But if marketing, mgmt, or whoever is only looking at the company click through kpi, that will drive this shitty design. The other comment I see explains it a little better, but that's just one potential reason.
Some people also think "word bad" so they go to obscure icons and textless interfaces. Frustrates the shit out of me personally. Especially when said obscure icon has no clear distinction and no pop up text. I hate having to rely on pop up text too. Either do only text or icon with text so everyone can see and know what it is.
Folstar@lemmus.org · 2 pts · 5d
Our bold, brilliant leaders and innovators once again doing what everyone else is doing, even when it is stupid.
toxicbubble@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 5d
i try to use browser extensions that add movie ratings, so annoying
Taleya@aussie.zone · 1 pts · 3d
it was an option in my kodi skin. I actually went out of my way to rip it out of the source code.
GoatSynagogue@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 5d
Really not seeing the issue here lol. Every single poster has the movie name on it in big legible text, and is either an official cover for the movie or official art of a main character with the official movie name text over it.
What exactly would you prefer?
joeljoelle@piefed.blahaj.zone · 0 pts · 5d
It nothing to do with the posters, it's the design and navigability of the web site, and the fact that every web site looks like the same uninspired piece of generic garbage, when design used to be important
GoatSynagogue@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 5d
You only showed one website though?
I donât know what you want them to look like? Theyâre displaying posters of movies and shows that they have, in different lists and orders. How else would you like them displayed?
joeljoelle@piefed.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 5d
They all look like this, Amazon Prime, Netflix, Pluto, Hulu. If you can't see the problem then I don't know what to say, there is no design at all to the page it is just some movie posters on a page. It is boring and lazy and lacks any artistic skill or panache whatsoever. It's just another way they are making the web into boring unimaginative shits as they are
GoatSynagogue@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 5d
But again - what do you actually want them to look like? These types of UI put the entire focus the content - isnât that a good thing? Would you prefer they just arbitrarily waste space and clutter it up with random flair?
The point of going to Netflix is to find something to watch, not to just browse around enjoying the website design. People want the least friction possible in apps like this.
Can you give an example, any at all, of a movie/tv streaming app/site design that you would prefer, and explosion why?
Itâs just such a bizarre complaint. You want less focus on the content, and a more âbusyâ UI for what reason?
Like I canât possibly imagine a better, more user friendly, easy to use, more discovery friendly UI for a video library streamer than this on a phone for example:
Find something you want to lol at, choose it, see more info:
How could you possibly think that UI I is bad?
Companies like Netflix have spent ungodly amounts of money on their UI/UX because their entire business depends on it being easy to use, easy to read, easy to find what you want, easily readable at all screen sizes and resolutions, on every device that it can run on. Itâs basically UI/UX perfection for its purpose, which is putting the focus on the content.
kepix@lemmy.world · -4 pts · 5d
you can clearly tell the movie vibe from the cover design. you click on it, and can read the summary, or watch the trailer. move on with your life.