During one of his dumb speeches in front of a crowd of MAGA idiots ..... right in the middle of making one of his dumb statements, just suddenly stops, stares into space and falls over.
Preferably saying something stupid like "Folks, let me tell you something — if I’m wrong, if the Republican Party is wrong — and by the way, we’re not — but if we were wrong, then may God strike me down right now! But it’s not gonna happen, because we’re doing what’s right for America. Believe me."
Love to see how they would try to spin that being his last words.
as long as there are elvises (heart attack while eating something nasty and then shitting oneself, then dying) involved and it's on camera, i'll win a bet
Definitely on camera. I want that still shot of his twisted head at an unnatural angle, his tongue hanging out, and his lifeless eyes looking in two different directions.
Oh definitely the stairs, since that's the "frail old man" tell that he seems most afraid of. And with nobody anywhere near him, and on a beautiful clear day with no wind and no sun in his eyes.
It has to be clear as day that it was a failure of his body and not foul play or trickery.
Honestly I don't see that happening. Even with his passing, that really doesn't change anything. The administration is still there, and 2nd in line is couch-fucker vance. The foundation for their plans are already in place, and quite frankly, Taco has served his purpose with his popularity declining.
The administration will just use any uprising as a reason to mobilize more troops in the name of safety or whatever. I really wish I'm wrong though.
It is well understood how he does it. Go watch the documentary Bad Faith. The CNP (Council for National Progress, the group that founded the heritage foundation), has been supplying priests and pastors talking point for 50 years. The CNP told the priests what to say, the priests tell people to follow trump. boom, cult.
I'm fairly certain when djt checksout, the cult will be gifted to JD and business will continue.
There will still be an enormous national celebration, and the remaining administration will watch it in terror.
They are likely to use that reaction to respond with violence, but it won't last. American citizens, both Democrat and MAGA, won't accept the new government. There isn't a single MAGA voter that cares about JD Vance at all. He may get their reluctant support as Republicans, but he won't get it as MAGAs.
After Trump croaks, the Republican party will almost certainly splinter.
CK was supposed to be the big Horst Wessel martyr that they could build support around, but nobody cared. They all played it up for a week or two, but once they stopped flogging it, it disappeared.
Their "Flood the Zone" strategy works when something sticks, and they can amplify it. But MAGA seems to have a systemic case of ADHD, so nothing lasts more than a week, before they are chasing the next outrage perpetrated by the Conservative Propaganda Machine.
Nobody even talks about his "assassination attempt" any more, but that's probably because it was obviously a hoax, and they don't want anyone pulling to hard on that thread.
i mean krasnov going feels like a good bottle occasion, but celebrating anything related to krasnov with something more than box wine feels wrong. he reminds me of cheap ass-wine from a box.
They'll put a giant memorial up in Washington for every American person to weep at and they'll track who comes to grieve and whether they have done so sufficiently to avoid the work camps that Dear Leader Vance will have built for disloyal citizens and degenerate queers.
Remind them that Jesus Barabbas' hiatus from the cult - a symbolic death and then rebirth - took place closer to passover anyway. There's little chance we can keep Mr Trump alive long enough to line that up.
You think Vance is easier to manipulate than the literal pedophile with a lifetime of compromat who consistently flips his convictions over who complimented him last????
I'm not saying Vance isn't easy to manipulate, I'm just saying I can't imagine there's an easier to manipulate human being over the age of 4 than Donald Trump.
I've gotten the feeling that Trump acts out of loving himself, while Vance explicitly wants to be awful. Both about as terrifying, but Vance seems more menacing in my mind.
Vance himself isn't the problem insofar he's a symptom of the same disease Trump is one of. His ties to cryptobros and Peter Thiel, however, most definitely are.
Eh.... Vance isn't the childish wanna be strong man that Trump is. He's an ambitious ideologue who has the backing of powerful wealthy men and will 1000% take advantage of the ground work towards authoritarianism that Trump laid. I wouldn't be shocked if he fails to inspire MAGA at large to fall in behind him. He'd probably fave a lot of opposition and other Trump wannabes in a future election, if we have any more of those. But he will definitely try to hold onto all that MAGA influence and he will likely succeed in at least getting Trump's cabinet and the Republican congress and SCOTUS to prop up his bullshit just like they did Trump. They'll be relieved to have a more predictable autocrat in charge. If he continues to undermine elections and the rule of law like Trump, well... I'm sure he doesn't hate the idea of being a young dictator for life.
Handlers keeping him hidden like they did Biden. Dead or alive were still fucked, he's just a cog in the machine that will be replaced to keep the status quo protected and running
Yeah it’s a cult of personality. DeSantis wanted it but they said No.
Lindsey Graham thought he could weasel his way in, they laughed him out. Perjury Traitor Greed has all the credentials but, let’s be honest, she identifies as a woman, and they’re not electing that. Plus she’s plain old insane. He’s demented. It’s a fine but distinct line.
Stephen Miller can never fill Trump's shoes. Trump at least has charisma - he can charm and flatter people and keep a smile on his face. Miller is just hatred manifest, not to mention he exudes insecurity and he looks like a cartoon villain. Zero redeeming qualities. He has to stay in the background so people don't see the ugly face of their agenda.
I mean - no. I know, i know, but seriously. They don’t even like Steve Bourbon, and he’s tried to be in the media as much as possible. Plus Miller is. Y’know.
He's the embodiment of their idea of the American dream. Born with a silver spoon in his mouth, accruing unlimited wealth and living a life with no accountability. They want to be him.
They don't want a world with no kings. They want to be king.
I can already see Steve Miller having a makeover and charming the public with a nifty military uniform, nice arm band, a cool toothbrush moustache and a brand new ”undercut” style toupee
Sieg Heil, America - really speedrunning that ”fascist dictatorship” playthrough huh?
I was scrolling to find someone else thinking this. Its just a big show and they need peoples attention all the time. Last thing they want is to be ignored. So they say incredible stupid things all the time, daily.
If he died of natural causes, what makes you think that’s how the White House would report it. They’d say he was killed and use it to create a false divisive narrative, blaming some left wing conspiracy or assassin who doesn’t exist. They’d use it to galvanise maga behind Vance blah blah blah…
Even if they don't explicitly say it (which they will), the MAGA hordes will concoct their own conspiracy theories and believe them. After all, they are all QAnon alumni.
The cushion connoisseur occasionally pretends to give a shit about working class people (even though he doesn’t). MAGAts want their faces brazenly spat on, because they’re temporarily embarrassed billionaires and being poor makes you worthless*.
I shudder at the thought of a Kirk-led timeline though, so thank you for the silver lining.
they won’t be able to focus that rage, it will quickly divest into the thousand little in-groups of conspiracies, backwoods nutcases screaming into the void, random nuts in trucks driving into drugstores and shooting up pizza places.
Curious how many will assume Vance poisoned him to become president or something like that.
Look, I'm not saying that Vance has been poisoning Trump to take over, I'm just saying we all know he's capable of it. Of course we should wait till the investigation into Vance reports their findings before jumping to conclusions, but come on, everyone knows it's entirely plausible.
Honestly if he really is ill, I very much wouldn't put it past them to off him themselves and blame the "radical left" in order to kick off the civil war they keep trying for.
Why would it matter if he's sick or not? They dont care about Trump any more than they care about CK. He's just a tool that has served its purpose at this point.
Some folks here believe once Trump is dead, his empire will pass onto someone else. I couldn't disagree more. Every time someone tries to do what Trump does, it's a big flop. It will all unravel with him gone. It's called a cult for a reason.
MAGA is a Cult of Personality, and there is no #2. Plenty of people feel like they are the obvious successor, but NONE of the MAGA followers believe that. They worship Trump, and Trump alone. When he dies, MAGA dies with him.
When he assumes room temperature, the knives are coming out, and the backstabbing will be glorious. All the Dems have to do is stay out of the way.
It absolutely is a cult of personality. The part that breaks my brain is that his personality is abysmal. Just gross, horrible, mean, rude, hateful, lying, cheating, hurtful. Not even objectively attractive or well spoken. Just babbling hateful drivel. I do not understand how it ever got this big except that he represents all the worst parts of humanity and he gave all the worst people the permission to be the worst version of themselves and that is more appealing than being smart or kind.
And when he does die the cult WILL implode. It already has fractured, but it will shatter into factions and infighting and it will be a big mess and lots of collateral damage. But maybe it will all be finally over. A decade of hearing his bullshit will finally end and maybe his cultists will start to snap out of the trance and be reasonable again.
He got that big because you not only described him, you described the bulk of his followers. A lot of people are just Pigs, and they're proud of it, they think it's a virtue.
Yeah. I don't know which was better. Having millions of closeted racist hateful people pretending to be nice or outwardly venom spewing racists.
At least now we can tell who the bad guys are because they broadcast it everywhere they go, and we can cut them out of our lives and try to stay away from their toxicity.
Trump is a narcissist who learned to play social media. At his core he’s a grifting and attention seeking slimeball. Everything else is sausage thumbs posting to social media and gauging what gets the best reactions.
There’s no cynical intelligence to this, but something worse: chasing the worst of mankind who revel in his boorishness. The very act of remaking himself every second to seek that attention is what makes him who he is, and it’s why he’s so hard to replicate.
Don’t believe it? Pay attention to his speeches when he’s talking about others. You can see him testing nicknames for opponents, watching the crowd to see how strong the reaction is. Watch for the satisfaction on his face when he finds the one that gets the reaction he’s looking for.
It's less about this being a cult, more about it being a cult of personality. Regular cults can continue on, a cult of personality dies when the personality dies.
I hope it does unravel without dragging the whole world into another war. But i fear the seed of hate has already taken root. Unless the entire system is purged of hate I don't have confidence it will be as simple as the Don kicking the bucket.
Exactly. Trump's control over his base is unique. This is why they wanted him on top so much. We a bit fortunate that he is such an old and unhealthy fuck instead of being someone younger. Trump was always this egotistical and delusional. Can you imagine how much worse it would be if he was just 50?
Yup. Vance is never going to get the built-in MAGA fan base. Vance and Miller have none of that aggressive, ferocious stupidity that makes Trump so relatable to his base.
You may be 100% correct, but I would still fear that the corruption soaked deep into our institutions by this bonkers insane second term would enable the fascist train to keep rolling and take us on the rest of the ride we've already started. Everybody around him is appear running the administration.
Maybe if the timing of the passing of the empire is favorable we might have some elections that seem valid maybe?
His past few vids were not even very convincing AI, he's barely hangin on. When I was a kid my dad's friends would joke about the decripit soviet leader being strapped to a 2x4 and dragged out for public appearances. Well well well how the tables have turned
He was referring to Breznev. In the late 70s he was in terrible health and was hospitalized but no soviet media talked about it. There was a joke that Russia TV was just a ballet channel due to the constant playing of Swan Lake to fill in the time.
Thanks for the reference, most of that side of the family died in pretty quick succession so these memories are just what my mind can contain. tbh Swan Lake 24/7 might do more to heal our nation than the news onslaught we get. My dad died in '16, about 3 months before Trump got in, and I'm almost happy he didn't have to see it. He was a lifelong republican but he was also a WWII buff, I'd never seen him actually afraid of a politician until then. I've been traveling the world since I was 17, he used to be terrified for me, but during that campaign he started encouraging me to spend more time abroad.
Question then becomes what to do about his lieutenants. We still got to deal with the evil that is Miller. In fact. I think tRump is too big an idiot for the full scope of evil that his administration is doing. I think much of this comes from Miller.
Musk owns many politicians and is throwing his seig heils.
MAGA isn’t going to follow en mass any of the fuckers propping up Trump.
You sure about that? They chanted, "Jews will not replace us." They're setting up camps. They hate the same groups the Nazis interred. They're seig heil-ing. They want genocide.
I think that means they'd follow anyone who gives them permission to hate. Hate is a powerful narcotic.
You're confused in thinking MAGA is one contiguous group. There are Nazis within MAGA (in fact they have been promoted, especially this term), but there are non-Nazis too. There were people in MAGA who loved Charlie Kirk, and people who hated him for being pro-Israel.
They'll all try to coalesce around someone, but there will be multiple candidates, based on their own personal ambitions, rather than the needs of the country. None of them will gather enough support to conquer the others, and they will be ripe for destruction, if the Dems can get their shit together.
But if Schmuck Schumer and a Jeffries are still running the show at that point, the Dems won't get their shit together, will barely respond to the atrocities of the last decade, and allow something far worse than MAGA to arise.
Oh he'll for sure be propped up and wheeled around indefinitely, but it's basically confirmed he's getting more frequent TIAs and worse recoveries despite his treatment. Real question is how bad is the next puppet going to be once he croaks.
I don't think there is anyone close to being able to hold onto the MAGA fan base of Trump kicks it. Vance sure can't, Elon is universally hated, as is Stephen Miller. None of Trump's kids has any charisma either.
The whole point of everything the administration is doing right now, is to make sure support won't matter. Who needs supporters when the vote is rigged?
They can only rig things so far. There's a reason Congress has a record number of Republicans that have an announced they aren't running again. There is a reason red states are rushing to push gerrymandering to its limits. They expect more elections to be contests.
They likely have a replacement ready. When you manage to get a group all-in on tribalism juice, they'll come up with cognitive dissonance and narratives all on their own and fall in line no matter what happens.
Fun if similar to the movie Death of Stalin and the example of such a vacuum. No spoilers but Stalin isn’t the only one who dies. Great comedy. Highly recommend.
I want him to live long enough to face all the consequences of his every criminal action. I want him to die in prison after losing everything. After watching his entire criminal family jailed, his buildings and golf courses sold, and his name forever marked as the despotic maniac he is. Even then, it would not be sufficient justice.
We already know that isn’t going to happen though. The smug raisin was impeached twice, has raped children with Epstein, and is currently declaring LGBT+ and their allies as terrorists. If those things weren’t enough to have him locked away, what will be?
I honestly think the most justice we could hope to see would be his bloated, festering body finally giving out on him on national television. But I doubt his retinue will give us that joy.
I'm honestly curious how long Trump is gonna make it. Realistically he's probably running on a bunch of drugs at this point. No shade here, I assume Biden and maybe even Obama were the same. How do you work that much and not sleep? The answer is drugs!
Even if they are "relaxing" the president has a lot of stress, the job physically ages you. Trump being on a golf course is still probably stressing out even if he doesn't give a shit about the US; whether it's about how his personal investments will work out or about his personal vendettas the job is stressful.
Trump was also severely stressed while out of office due to the pressures of the lawsuits he was under. With 12 years of stress the man may be 79 currently, but he's probably way older physically. I don't see him making it through this term and the only way he's made it this far is drugs and a good pharmacist.
Welll obama cared enough to burn the candle on both ends. I think if he had not been president he would have kicked cigarettes sooner but you could likely say that about politics in general. I can say a much larger percentage of PhD students seemed to smoke compared to the general populace.
Here is Obama's stated daily schedule in his first year as president. Take it with a grain of salt since it is a self report, but it's probably not miles away from the truth.
Quick Summary:
Routinely only got 5-7 hours of sleep
Woke up 7 am and would straight away exercise for 45 minutes
Into the office between 8:30-9:00 am
Work until 6:30 pm
Dinner and family time until 8:30 pm
Review briefings and do paperwork until 11:30 pm
Read in bed for 30 min before going to be at 12:30 am
Maybe Obama is just built differently, I know some people have genetic differences that mean they need less sleep, but that's a hell of a schedule for your baseline everyday schedule. I wouldn't be surprised in the slightest if the White House had a doctor that prescribed/administered some sort of stimulant.
He is a psychopath. Possibly the most psychopathic man to ever be president. He doesn't feel the pain and stress of being president, he thrives on it.
Lincoln would probably have died in his second term if he wasn't assassinated. Have you seen his before and after photos from being in office? He went from being a healthy looking person to being an old man in just 4 years. The stress of being in such a dangerous time for the united states really, really took its toll.
I didn't see that kind of aging in Trump. The guy is such a fucking psychopath that any aging that happened was going to happen anyway.
Crikey, harsh...but fair. Though a very long and painful illness that is untreatable is preferred.
With just enough brain function for him to realise he's on a slow painful and road to death.
We deserve for him -and his children, and his cronies and cohorts- to be imprisoned for the many blatant crimes. However I'll settle for a nice long painful death. The next best is a quick and painful death.
However, him going away and being forgotten is fine if some form of painful death isn't an option.
May he live as a vegetable for two more decades, although his despicable family members will never have to suffer the indignity of changing his full diapers themselves.
No, because then the cult of personality will live on for as long as he does. People will pretend to be the heirs to him, but the movement will live on for as long as he does.
People think he rambles a lot, but it has a purpose to it. What I'm worried about is that after meeting with the Project 2025 guy, that rambling might be receiving some calibration as well as a long series of other meetings to see if they go a new route.
I don't think he is really that ill simply because JD Vance would have been picking up a lot more of the slack if that were the case to position himself as the new president.
Then there's also the possibility that he is part of the caste of the country that does actually benefit from having no government oversight or presence during a shutdown. It makes people and groups that much more dependent on the private market alternatives these oligarchs own.
Maybe he isn't making any comments because this is where he wants to be right now. He still controls ICE, the execute and the supreme court can still continue reshaping the US, and he's in a point where he has essentially just hit the pause button on any changes in congress until he can decide how to revert and influence that. He's at the point where people who protest the extended shutdown can be incarcerated as the "radical left" "homegrowns" for whom the shutdown helps prevent any recourse as well, he's putting any loyalist he can into ICE and it has a bigger budget than the rest of the military, he's plunging and farming the value of the US economy which he and his oligarch friends can weather and later buy up on the low. It seems like he might have settled for this as a win condition, so he's no longer making appearances to push things into other agendas for now.
States need to step up if the government remains shut down, this is the perfect opportunity and excuse for them.
Trump's "plan" is too choose whatever is best for him psychotically and amorally. He's not where he is right now because he had a plan, but because as you put it, the path was laid for him. It became clear with the drastic changes and statements he began his administration with. A destination was presented to him, and he's tried to follow the path to it with the indications he has been given. Sometimes, he has even blurted out the "landmarks" prematurely, like his comments on Greenland and Canada.
He's just at a point he realizes he can already exploit, which probably seems like a good option to him since some of the directions he has received aren't working out that well for him.
He might not have a plan, but there are people who have and can sell him on doing small simple tasks that rump can actually understand, or at least do, and profit out of
You think with trump and his sycophants and handlers would be willingly parading around their younger, hopeful replacement? “Strongmen” will lie and obfuscate the truth because the lie works. Look how long they’ve managed to get his followers to believe he’s just a virile and Uber healthy, fearless leader.
They won’t shove the wet mop with eyes that is JD Vance into the role until they absolutely have no other options. Look all throughout history, these types of fascists have to project strength even when it’s clear they’re old, decrepit and on the edge of death.
I am hoping he lives long enough to prosecute his half of a civil war. We want the bad guys to constantly step on rakes, and Trump is very good at that. Ideally, he should die in the middle of that, so that Thiel, Elon, and the rest of the dickhead gang can fight over the throne at the worst time possible for the Dark "Enlightenment"...no, the Dim Ignorance.
The less good people have to die because of these jackasses, the better.
Problem is, the people who created and pushed Project 2025 are still around and supporting their foul agenda. They must die, so that democracy can live. If it takes Trump being the bungler-in-chief for the next couple years...I will put up with it.
Trump is the least competent of the bunch. We need the more dangerous serpents to lose their heads, else they will continue sinking their fangs into us.
They may just "Weekend at Bernie's" this shit as far as they can take it.
I'm calling it now. If this keeps up, they'll roll out AI-based addresses and propaganda in his image for a while before they have to face the music. The biggest tell is that if they use his voice, it'll be cogent, understandable, and to the point.
The unholy intersection of snake-oil medicine, AI, propaganda, qanon, and cult-of-personality politics. As someone living here I'm nauseated, and frankly a little scared, that this even got the green light. It's clearly AI generated, but if you're not paying close attention or are unaware that AI is this good now, it's passable.
Last time this happened, the indicators that something was up was Vance not being able to keep his mouth shut and tweeting about it. Along with a 300% increase in take out pizza orders at near the pentagon.
I cant imagine they are fully staffed right now, but if I find out something happened because an inordinary number of feds need to get late night pizza, Ill eat my shoe.
Doubtful. Even Israel would want to see us stick around, and operating without this level of dysfunction, you'd think. They need us to remain a world superpower.
With all of these dipshits at the helm and purposefully trying to stoke a civil war, that's very much in jeopardy, which serves the interests of Russia (and China) much more than it does Israel's interests. What other country is going to prop them up like us?
They're hoping they're the superpower in the end. No one said nor should anyone expect religious lunacy to be especially coherent or moral for that matter.
He was slurring his last big speech as well. This isn’t new. He has been doing this for a while. But it’s also the beginning of the month, time for some mystery IV injections.
https://youtu.be/69fPof-ZTnU
It’s gonna be the college football stadium anthem this fall.
It has a catchy beat & all the kids can dance to it.
All good in my book. It has the Bob & Connie Dobbs seal of approval.
For sure to be a hit. Or perhaps get hit by one yourself.
Now sing along to our new jingle.
🎶 Either way it’s so ok to sit & smile & stroke all day🎶
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kmartburrito@lemmy.world · 254 pts · 320d
renrenPDX@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 94 pts · 320d
Yeah and if the CK thing was any indicator of how it’ll go, the administration will milk it for all it’s worth. It’ll be gross.
Almacca@aussie.zone · 93 pts · 320d
I hope he dies in the stupidest, self-owning way possible, like tripping over his own feet and falling down some stairs. Preferably on camera.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 42 pts · 320d
i want him to be eating on camera and then accidentally elvis himself
ininewcrow@lemmy.ca · 59 pts · 320d
During one of his dumb speeches in front of a crowd of MAGA idiots ..... right in the middle of making one of his dumb statements, just suddenly stops, stares into space and falls over.
TheseusNow@lemmy.zip · 26 pts · 320d
Preferably saying something stupid like "Folks, let me tell you something — if I’m wrong, if the Republican Party is wrong — and by the way, we’re not — but if we were wrong, then may God strike me down right now! But it’s not gonna happen, because we’re doing what’s right for America. Believe me."
Love to see how they would try to spin that being his last words.
Frozengyro@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 320d
Preferably giving the mike a blowjob again?
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 320d
as long as there are elvises (heart attack while eating something nasty and then shitting oneself, then dying) involved and it's on camera, i'll win a bet
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 318d
Because he is so awesome Lord Jaysus took him from us too soon.
RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 320d
Trpping and falling down the steps of AF1. And then, as he's dying at the bottom, he shits himself.
bender223@lemmy.today · 9 pts · 320d
I was thinking he could be so constipated from eating junk fast food that he farts himself to death sitting on the toilet. 🚽
Dultas@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 320d
What's the hight of the tail rotor on a Sea King?
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 319d
Definitely on camera. I want that still shot of his twisted head at an unnatural angle, his tongue hanging out, and his lifeless eyes looking in two different directions.
Put THAT on on the cover of Time.
ieatpwns@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 319d
Pop a vessel while shitting out his 3rd Big Mac of the day
Zink@programming.dev · 2 pts · 318d
Oh definitely the stairs, since that's the "frail old man" tell that he seems most afraid of. And with nobody anywhere near him, and on a beautiful clear day with no wind and no sun in his eyes.
It has to be clear as day that it was a failure of his body and not foul play or trickery.
Flisty@mstdn.social · 1 pts · 318d
@Almacca @renrenPDX an escalator, surely
Almacca@aussie.zone · 1 pts · 318d
An escalator that's temporarily stairs? Nah, then they'll blame whoever turned it off.
ameancow@lemmy.world · 33 pts · 320d
renrenPDX@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 25 pts · 320d
Honestly I don't see that happening. Even with his passing, that really doesn't change anything. The administration is still there, and 2nd in line is couch-fucker vance. The foundation for their plans are already in place, and quite frankly, Taco has served his purpose with his popularity declining.
The administration will just use any uprising as a reason to mobilize more troops in the name of safety or whatever. I really wish I'm wrong though.
ameancow@lemmy.world · 21 pts · 320d
bagsy@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 320d
It is well understood how he does it. Go watch the documentary Bad Faith. The CNP (Council for National Progress, the group that founded the heritage foundation), has been supplying priests and pastors talking point for 50 years. The CNP told the priests what to say, the priests tell people to follow trump. boom, cult.
I'm fairly certain when djt checksout, the cult will be gifted to JD and business will continue.
ameancow@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 319d
Jaysyn@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 319d
Trump isn't going to share the Russian kompromat that he has on the GOP in Congress with Vance. Russia didn't hack the RNC for shits and giggles.
ameancow@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 319d
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 4 pts · 319d
There will still be an enormous national celebration, and the remaining administration will watch it in terror.
They are likely to use that reaction to respond with violence, but it won't last. American citizens, both Democrat and MAGA, won't accept the new government. There isn't a single MAGA voter that cares about JD Vance at all. He may get their reluctant support as Republicans, but he won't get it as MAGAs.
After Trump croaks, the Republican party will almost certainly splinter.
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 5 pts · 319d
CK was supposed to be the big Horst Wessel martyr that they could build support around, but nobody cared. They all played it up for a week or two, but once they stopped flogging it, it disappeared.
Their "Flood the Zone" strategy works when something sticks, and they can amplify it. But MAGA seems to have a systemic case of ADHD, so nothing lasts more than a week, before they are chasing the next outrage perpetrated by the Conservative Propaganda Machine.
Nobody even talks about his "assassination attempt" any more, but that's probably because it was obviously a hoax, and they don't want anyone pulling to hard on that thread.
renrenPDX@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 319d
Oh for real, and it's annoying as shit because it's so intense at the get go but gone soon after like a fart in the wind.
postmateDumbass@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 320d
A series of commemerative plates.
renrenPDX@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 320d
"And if you call right now, we'll send you not one, but two commemorative plates and a set of gold plate holders"
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 320d
got an eighth of high grade weed and a cheap box of wine set aside for the day
blazeknave@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 320d
Why the good bad and not good good?
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 320d
huh?
Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 5 pts · 320d
I think they're wondering why you're cheapin' on the wine, but to be honest I don't think anyone truly cares.
I got a nice pack of lagers and some of Caliva's finest right here in a box.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 319d
i mean krasnov going feels like a good bottle occasion, but celebrating anything related to krasnov with something more than box wine feels wrong. he reminds me of cheap ass-wine from a box.
jaek@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 320d
Nothing bad can happen, only good happen.
Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 319d
I keep a special bottle of alcohol on display for this day. There is going to be such a party all over the nation... It's going to be wondrous.
AtariDump@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 319d
PP_BOY_@lemmy.world · 128 pts · 320d
Trump dead before Dec. 20, take your bets
dipcart@lemmy.world · 117 pts · 320d
Christmas Day would be the ultimate present. Oh you don't like us celebrating on the day he died?? Who's waging a war on Christmas now?
13igTyme@piefed.social · 37 pts · 320d
Evangelicals would claim it as their Jesus returning to heaven.
kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 320d
They'll put a giant memorial up in Washington for every American person to weep at and they'll track who comes to grieve and whether they have done so sufficiently to avoid the work camps that Dear Leader Vance will have built for disloyal citizens and degenerate queers.
anomnom@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 320d
The portapotties will be the closest we’ll be able to get to pissing on his grave.
We should print up some Trump grave urinal cakes now. Could make a fortune on that day.
corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 320d
Remind them that Jesus Barabbas' hiatus from the cult - a symbolic death and then rebirth - took place closer to passover anyway. There's little chance we can keep Mr Trump alive long enough to line that up.
Jhuskindle@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 320d
I don't think he will make it that long.
echo@lemmy.tf · 7 pts · 320d
Halloween or Thanksgiving would work too. Actually Thanksgiving may be the best choice of the three
Jhuskindle@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 319d
This would absolutely make my Halloween!!!!
WalrusDragonOnABike@reddthat.com · 1 pts · 319d
Columbus day is also coming up very soon.
degen@midwest.social · 29 pts · 320d
I'd honestly put money on him not making it to term, but that might be the safe bet. The thing is, that leaves us with Vance.
pinheadednightmare@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 320d
Vance is definitely easier to manipulate. So I honestly don’t know who is worse.
theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 320d
You think Vance is easier to manipulate than the literal pedophile with a lifetime of compromat who consistently flips his convictions over who complimented him last????
I'm not saying Vance isn't easy to manipulate, I'm just saying I can't imagine there's an easier to manipulate human being over the age of 4 than Donald Trump.
IndridCold@lemmy.ca · 7 pts · 320d
Vance won't be able to capture MAGA any more than a used condom filled with Trump's diaper drippings would.
theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 320d
I agree
pinheadednightmare@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 320d
Search video, Vance flips web cam upside down… please if you haven’t seen it.
theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 320d
https://xcancel.com/patriottakes/status/1844796855437180945 found a link to it.
pinheadednightmare@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 319d
Yep, that’s it. Our VP ladies and gents.
degen@midwest.social · 15 pts · 320d
I've gotten the feeling that Trump acts out of loving himself, while Vance explicitly wants to be awful. Both about as terrifying, but Vance seems more menacing in my mind.
Kyrgizion@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 320d
Vance himself isn't the problem insofar he's a symptom of the same disease Trump is one of. His ties to cryptobros and Peter Thiel, however, most definitely are.
degen@midwest.social · 5 pts · 320d
For sure, and I was mostly considering them as individuals which admittedly isn't the most pertinent when the rest of the party is the way it is.
Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 320d
More menacing, but definitely won't be able to hold the cult together
kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 320d
Eh.... Vance isn't the childish wanna be strong man that Trump is. He's an ambitious ideologue who has the backing of powerful wealthy men and will 1000% take advantage of the ground work towards authoritarianism that Trump laid. I wouldn't be shocked if he fails to inspire MAGA at large to fall in behind him. He'd probably fave a lot of opposition and other Trump wannabes in a future election, if we have any more of those. But he will definitely try to hold onto all that MAGA influence and he will likely succeed in at least getting Trump's cabinet and the Republican congress and SCOTUS to prop up his bullshit just like they did Trump. They'll be relieved to have a more predictable autocrat in charge. If he continues to undermine elections and the rule of law like Trump, well... I'm sure he doesn't hate the idea of being a young dictator for life.
faythofdragons@slrpnk.net · 2 pts · 320d
I'm keeping an eye on Hegseth too
kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 320d
Yeah, dude is certifiable and would absolutely love to coup Vance's ass
faythofdragons@slrpnk.net · 2 pts · 320d
Between the strong jawline and the talking head experience, I think he could play the MAGAs like a fiddle
kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 320d
Don't forget the crazy villain eyes and sense of smug superiority.
ccunning@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 320d
JD has the charisma of a damp gym sock…
pheonixdown@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 320d
Iirc, the revelations anti-christ is supposed to rule for 7 years, I also have some memory that there was a hint it might not be consecutive.
echo@lemmy.tf · 3 pts · 320d
Vance is useless as fuck and is incapable of herding his republican cats. He was a joke before Trump and he'll continue to be a joke after.
real_squids@sopuli.xyz · 9 pts · 320d
Has anyone made a website for him like the one for Kissinger? That way we can all bet and help a charity
shittydwarf@piefed.social · 4 pts · 320d
My body is ready
jballs@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 320d
Oh man, I'd be tempted to bet my savings on him living past then. That way I either win big or at least make some money.
echo@lemmy.tf · 3 pts · 320d
Can we get this one on some of those event betting apps? I'd throw a dollar or two at that bet.
HuskerNation@lemmynsfw.com · 3 pts · 320d
Don't give me hope
nymnympseudonym@piefed.social · 3 pts · 320d
Gammelfisch@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 320d
I wonder if Las Vegas is accepting bets on the subject.
ameancow@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 320d
RaoulDuke@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 320d
ClassStruggle@lemmy.ml · 117 pts · 320d
Handlers keeping him hidden like they did Biden. Dead or alive were still fucked, he's just a cog in the machine that will be replaced to keep the status quo protected and running
homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world · 48 pts · 320d
Sure then the cult will quietly assemble under that master smooth charismatic leader Steven Miller.
Deceptichum@quokk.au · 24 pts · 320d
homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world · 35 pts · 320d
Yeah it’s a cult of personality. DeSantis wanted it but they said No.
Lindsey Graham thought he could weasel his way in, they laughed him out. Perjury Traitor Greed has all the credentials but, let’s be honest, she identifies as a woman, and they’re not electing that. Plus she’s plain old insane. He’s demented. It’s a fine but distinct line.
ThunderQueen@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 320d
freshcow@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 320d
Stephen Miller can never fill Trump's shoes. Trump at least has charisma - he can charm and flatter people and keep a smile on his face. Miller is just hatred manifest, not to mention he exudes insecurity and he looks like a cartoon villain. Zero redeeming qualities. He has to stay in the background so people don't see the ugly face of their agenda.
Almacca@aussie.zone · 7 pts · 320d
He really doesn't
nomy@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 319d
Charisma and daddy's money are the only reason he's where he is.
ThunderQueen@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 320d
homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 320d
I mean - no. I know, i know, but seriously. They don’t even like Steve Bourbon, and he’s tried to be in the media as much as possible. Plus Miller is. Y’know.
Let’s just say close but no cigar.
ThunderQueen@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 320d
homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 320d
No way. Never. Not even if he sounded like Gilbert Gottfried.
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 7 pts · 320d
Yeah but if trump croaks, there will be a power vacuum, and these are the kinds of people who need someone to worship.
homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 320d
With any luck they’ll display all of the hatred and animosity that made them famous toward each other.
Y’know like the left does.
Hi-oooooooo!
xyzzy@lemmy.today · 7 pts · 320d
jj4211@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 320d
I don't get it but for whatever reason he has an enthusiastic following specific to him.
There are a number of races where people tried to ride his popularity, but unless Trump is directly in the race, it doesn't seem to matter so much.
shawn1122@sh.itjust.works · 9 pts · 320d
He's the embodiment of their idea of the American dream. Born with a silver spoon in his mouth, accruing unlimited wealth and living a life with no accountability. They want to be him.
They don't want a world with no kings. They want to be king.
OrteilGenou@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 320d
He's too close to the mothership. Vance will be president and ol Steve will continue avoiding UV light, where possible.
homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 320d
Yeah. But you mispronounced “Theil”.
Sideshow_B00b@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 319d
I can already see Steve Miller having a makeover and charming the public with a nifty military uniform, nice arm band, a cool toothbrush moustache and a brand new ”undercut” style toupee
Sieg Heil, America - really speedrunning that ”fascist dictatorship” playthrough huh?
homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 319d
That’s more likely than him uniting the Evangelicals and the legacy republicans and the gravy seals.
SparroHawc@lemmy.zip · 38 pts · 320d
If he keels over I'm still gonna get drunk with my mates though.
mrmanager@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 319d
I was scrolling to find someone else thinking this. Its just a big show and they need peoples attention all the time. Last thing they want is to be ignored. So they say incredible stupid things all the time, daily.
WhatGodIsMadeOf@feddit.org · 1 pts · 318d
Exactly and it is so sad seeing people acting as if traditional political discourse is going to make things better. It's broken completely.
RandomlyGeneratedName@lemmy.world · 73 pts · 320d
fulcrummed@lemmy.world · 39 pts · 320d
If he died of natural causes, what makes you think that’s how the White House would report it. They’d say he was killed and use it to create a false divisive narrative, blaming some left wing conspiracy or assassin who doesn’t exist. They’d use it to galvanise maga behind Vance blah blah blah…
jankforlife@lemmy.ml · 24 pts · 320d
No that would be to competent for them, they're gonna weekend at bernie him
RandomlyGeneratedName@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 320d
Red0ctober@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 320d
Coming? They're already here
RandomlyGeneratedName@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 320d
ameancow@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 320d
deepfriedchril@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 320d
I feel we might even get a "Weekend at Bernie's" situation.
RandomlyGeneratedName@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 318d
watson387@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 320d
Exactly my thoughts.
floofloof@lemmy.ca · 10 pts · 320d
Even if they don't explicitly say it (which they will), the MAGA hordes will concoct their own conspiracy theories and believe them. After all, they are all QAnon alumni.
ameancow@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 320d
Broadfern@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 320d
You hit the nail on the head re: Vance.
The cushion connoisseur occasionally pretends to give a shit about working class people (even though he doesn’t). MAGAts want their faces brazenly spat on, because they’re temporarily embarrassed billionaires and being poor makes you worthless*.
I shudder at the thought of a Kirk-led timeline though, so thank you for the silver lining.
*according to them.
WalrusDragonOnABike@reddthat.com · 3 pts · 319d
Curious how many will assume Vance poisoned him to become president or something like that.
ameancow@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 319d
EpeeGnome@feddit.online · 1 pts · 319d
Look, I'm not saying that Vance has been poisoning Trump to take over, I'm just saying we all know he's capable of it. Of course we should wait till the investigation into Vance reports their findings before jumping to conclusions, but come on, everyone knows it's entirely plausible.
ameancow@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 319d
RandomlyGeneratedName@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 320d
phx@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 320d
Honestly if he really is ill, I very much wouldn't put it past them to off him themselves and blame the "radical left" in order to kick off the civil war they keep trying for.
zwerg@feddit.org · 2 pts · 320d
Why would it matter if he's sick or not? They dont care about Trump any more than they care about CK. He's just a tool that has served its purpose at this point.
frog_brawler@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 319d
Mongostein@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 319d
If he’s dead they’ll Weekend-At-Bernie’s his corpse and get someone to shoot it, blaming “The Left™”
EtAl@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 66 pts · 320d
Some folks here believe once Trump is dead, his empire will pass onto someone else. I couldn't disagree more. Every time someone tries to do what Trump does, it's a big flop. It will all unravel with him gone. It's called a cult for a reason.
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 23 pts · 319d
MAGA is a Cult of Personality, and there is no #2. Plenty of people feel like they are the obvious successor, but NONE of the MAGA followers believe that. They worship Trump, and Trump alone. When he dies, MAGA dies with him.
When he assumes room temperature, the knives are coming out, and the backstabbing will be glorious. All the Dems have to do is stay out of the way.
Colonel_Panic_@eviltoast.org · 14 pts · 319d
It absolutely is a cult of personality. The part that breaks my brain is that his personality is abysmal. Just gross, horrible, mean, rude, hateful, lying, cheating, hurtful. Not even objectively attractive or well spoken. Just babbling hateful drivel. I do not understand how it ever got this big except that he represents all the worst parts of humanity and he gave all the worst people the permission to be the worst version of themselves and that is more appealing than being smart or kind.
And when he does die the cult WILL implode. It already has fractured, but it will shatter into factions and infighting and it will be a big mess and lots of collateral damage. But maybe it will all be finally over. A decade of hearing his bullshit will finally end and maybe his cultists will start to snap out of the trance and be reasonable again.
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 10 pts · 319d
He got that big because you not only described him, you described the bulk of his followers. A lot of people are just Pigs, and they're proud of it, they think it's a virtue.
Colonel_Panic_@eviltoast.org · 4 pts · 319d
Yeah. I don't know which was better. Having millions of closeted racist hateful people pretending to be nice or outwardly venom spewing racists.
At least now we can tell who the bad guys are because they broadcast it everywhere they go, and we can cut them out of our lives and try to stay away from their toxicity.
phutatorius@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 319d
I want them out in the open so that we all know what they are.
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 319d
No, they should remain under their rocks, with the full knowledge that decent, moral people think they are disgusting stupid pedophile traitors.
slag@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 319d
Trump is a narcissist who learned to play social media. At his core he’s a grifting and attention seeking slimeball. Everything else is sausage thumbs posting to social media and gauging what gets the best reactions.
There’s no cynical intelligence to this, but something worse: chasing the worst of mankind who revel in his boorishness. The very act of remaking himself every second to seek that attention is what makes him who he is, and it’s why he’s so hard to replicate.
Don’t believe it? Pay attention to his speeches when he’s talking about others. You can see him testing nicknames for opponents, watching the crowd to see how strong the reaction is. Watch for the satisfaction on his face when he finds the one that gets the reaction he’s looking for.
nomy@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 319d
Well, fuck.
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 319d
Yeah...
FrostyTheDoo@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 319d
Never underestimate the Democrats' ability to get in their own way
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 319d
Oh yeah, their reputation of "Snatching Defeat From The Jaws Of Victory" is well-earned.
TWeaK@lemmy.today · 19 pts · 319d
It's less about this being a cult, more about it being a cult of personality. Regular cults can continue on, a cult of personality dies when the personality dies.
FuckFascism@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 319d
D_C@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 319d
It would also be good to prepare to take his cronies and enablers out. Legally if possible, though other ways are acceptable.
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 6 pts · 319d
Starting with Stephen "PeeWee Himmler" Miller. He needs to be dragged behind a car past cheering crowds.
arc99@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 319d
The worst outcome is he is seen walking and talking. If he dropped dead I doubt anybody else would feel emboldened to act the way he did.
eskimofry@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 320d
I hope it does unravel without dragging the whole world into another war. But i fear the seed of hate has already taken root. Unless the entire system is purged of hate I don't have confidence it will be as simple as the Don kicking the bucket.
ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online · 9 pts · 319d
Exactly. Trump's control over his base is unique. This is why they wanted him on top so much. We a bit fortunate that he is such an old and unhealthy fuck instead of being someone younger. Trump was always this egotistical and delusional. Can you imagine how much worse it would be if he was just 50?
krooklochurm@lemmy.ca · 6 pts · 319d
Theee morons are eating their own already even with the dear leader alive.
NutWrench@lemmy.ml · 5 pts · 319d
Yup. Vance is never going to get the built-in MAGA fan base. Vance and Miller have none of that aggressive, ferocious stupidity that makes Trump so relatable to his base.
Zink@programming.dev · 2 pts · 318d
You may be 100% correct, but I would still fear that the corruption soaked deep into our institutions by this bonkers insane second term would enable the fascist train to keep rolling and take us on the rest of the ride we've already started. Everybody around him is appear running the administration.
Maybe if the timing of the passing of the empire is favorable we might have some elections that seem valid maybe?
FreeMindFreeAss@lemmy.world · 59 pts · 319d
His past few vids were not even very convincing AI, he's barely hangin on. When I was a kid my dad's friends would joke about the decripit soviet leader being strapped to a 2x4 and dragged out for public appearances. Well well well how the tables have turned
ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online · 25 pts · 319d
He was referring to Breznev. In the late 70s he was in terrible health and was hospitalized but no soviet media talked about it. There was a joke that Russia TV was just a ballet channel due to the constant playing of Swan Lake to fill in the time.
FreeMindFreeAss@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 319d
Thanks for the reference, most of that side of the family died in pretty quick succession so these memories are just what my mind can contain. tbh Swan Lake 24/7 might do more to heal our nation than the news onslaught we get. My dad died in '16, about 3 months before Trump got in, and I'm almost happy he didn't have to see it. He was a lifelong republican but he was also a WWII buff, I'd never seen him actually afraid of a politician until then. I've been traveling the world since I was 17, he used to be terrified for me, but during that campaign he started encouraging me to spend more time abroad.
foggy@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 319d
Idk he might still be a Soviet leader of some kind
GeorgimusPrime@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 319d
Cameroon literally does this. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Biya
MajorasTerribleFate@lemmy.zip · 7 pts · 319d
Weekend at Biya's?
MuskyMelon@lemmy.world · 58 pts · 320d
Stroke, stroke, stroke, stroke, stroke!!!
Sunflier@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 320d
Question then becomes what to do about his lieutenants. We still got to deal with the evil that is Miller. In fact. I think tRump is too big an idiot for the full scope of evil that his administration is doing. I think much of this comes from Miller.
Musk owns many politicians and is throwing his seig heils.
MuskyMelon@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 320d
Correct. Trump is just the face but if he stroke out and can't make public appearances, the facade falls quickly and there will be a 25A crisis.
MAGA isn't going to follow en mass any of the fuckers propping up Trump.
Sunflier@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 320d
You sure about that? They chanted, "Jews will not replace us." They're setting up camps. They hate the same groups the Nazis interred. They're seig heil-ing. They want genocide.
I think that means they'd follow anyone who gives them permission to hate. Hate is a powerful narcotic.
TWeaK@lemmy.today · 6 pts · 319d
You're confused in thinking MAGA is one contiguous group. There are Nazis within MAGA (in fact they have been promoted, especially this term), but there are non-Nazis too. There were people in MAGA who loved Charlie Kirk, and people who hated him for being pro-Israel.
The only thing tying them together is Trump.
Sunflier@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 319d
I'm not so sure of that. Are there? This seems a hopeful fantasy in light of their lack of showing after tRump 2.
nomy@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 319d
"Non-Nazi" in that they can look the other way while the actual Nazis do the dirty work.
They're still Nazis but it's not their defining political position.
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 4 pts · 319d
No, MAGA dies with Trump.
They'll all try to coalesce around someone, but there will be multiple candidates, based on their own personal ambitions, rather than the needs of the country. None of them will gather enough support to conquer the others, and they will be ripe for destruction, if the Dems can get their shit together.
But if Schmuck Schumer and a Jeffries are still running the show at that point, the Dems won't get their shit together, will barely respond to the atrocities of the last decade, and allow something far worse than MAGA to arise.
MuskyMelon@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 319d
Yes they'd still hate but I don't see anyone else they're willing to follow.
raef@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 319d
Stroke, stroke!
Octavio@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 319d
Heikki2@lemmy.world · 57 pts · 319d
Is that why its been so quiet? What a Stroke of luck!
redraven@midwest.social · 7 pts · 319d
I see what you did there. Well played.
Transtronaut@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 5 pts · 319d
Golf joke, right? /s
MushuChupacabra@lemmy.world · 57 pts · 320d
This asshole will do anything to divert attention from the Epstein files.
Kurious84@eviltoast.org · 51 pts · 320d
Stop getting our hopes up. Evil bastards live a longtime.
stickly@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 320d
Oh he'll for sure be propped up and wheeled around indefinitely, but it's basically confirmed he's getting more frequent TIAs and worse recoveries despite his treatment. Real question is how bad is the next puppet going to be once he croaks.
Tinidril@midwest.social · 11 pts · 320d
I don't think there is anyone close to being able to hold onto the MAGA fan base of Trump kicks it. Vance sure can't, Elon is universally hated, as is Stephen Miller. None of Trump's kids has any charisma either.
phx@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 320d
The next few years would end up being "weekend at Bernie's, Trump edition"
MBech@feddit.dk · 2 pts · 319d
The whole point of everything the administration is doing right now, is to make sure support won't matter. Who needs supporters when the vote is rigged?
Tinidril@midwest.social · 5 pts · 319d
They can only rig things so far. There's a reason Congress has a record number of Republicans that have an announced they aren't running again. There is a reason red states are rushing to push gerrymandering to its limits. They expect more elections to be contests.
MithranArkanere@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 320d
They likely have a replacement ready. When you manage to get a group all-in on tribalism juice, they'll come up with cognitive dissonance and narratives all on their own and fall in line no matter what happens.
__nobodynowhere@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 320d
It's not going to stop the madness.
boonhet@sopuli.xyz · 3 pts · 320d
Yeah, every time I see a headline saying "Trump, 79, ..." I just scroll past it at this point.
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 319d
Only the good die young, i.e. Kissinger.
WanderWisley@lemmy.world · 51 pts · 319d
Don’t do this to me again, don’t give me hope.
ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online · 9 pts · 319d
Me too, I am trying to quit alcohol and I would hate to waste a lot of money on expensive alcohol.
RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 319d
I'm sorry I couldn't give it to you sooner.
IndridCold@lemmy.ca · 36 pts · 320d
When Trump dies, how long do you think Stephen Miller will try to keep it quiet?
Trump needed the presidency to keep him out of prison. Steven Miller needs Trump's protection so 8 year old girls don't take his lunch money.
normanwall@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 320d
ameancow@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 320d
cloudhands@lemmy.ca · 11 pts · 320d
Fun if similar to the movie Death of Stalin and the example of such a vacuum. No spoilers but Stalin isn’t the only one who dies. Great comedy. Highly recommend.
peoplebeproblems@midwest.social · 2 pts · 320d
No spoilers?
I'm pretty sure it was a documentary not a comedy.
IndridCold@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 319d
I've always said when Trump dies MAGA will eat it's own head. The power grab back stabbing will be hilarious.
ameancow@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 319d
beveradb@sh.itjust.works · 32 pts · 320d
xxce2AAb@feddit.dk · 28 pts · 320d
You did try checking the nearest golf course, right?
JustKeepStretching@lemmy.world · 28 pts · 320d
This seems like a legit story but it is so off-putting when articles quote random social media comments
aow@sh.itjust.works · 12 pts · 320d
Rawstory sensationalizes small bits of real info, constantly. He'll probably pop up tomorrow.
FartMaster69@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 26 pts · 320d
Gramps just needs his naps.
don@lemmy.ca · 18 pts · 320d
He just needs one good dirt nap.
BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world · 24 pts · 320d
I don’t want him to die yet.
I want him to live long enough to face all the consequences of his every criminal action. I want him to die in prison after losing everything. After watching his entire criminal family jailed, his buildings and golf courses sold, and his name forever marked as the despotic maniac he is. Even then, it would not be sufficient justice.
KaChilde@sh.itjust.works · 29 pts · 320d
We already know that isn’t going to happen though. The smug raisin was impeached twice, has raped children with Epstein, and is currently declaring LGBT+ and their allies as terrorists. If those things weren’t enough to have him locked away, what will be?
I honestly think the most justice we could hope to see would be his bloated, festering body finally giving out on him on national television. But I doubt his retinue will give us that joy.
Knightfox@lemmy.world · 22 pts · 319d
I'm honestly curious how long Trump is gonna make it. Realistically he's probably running on a bunch of drugs at this point. No shade here, I assume Biden and maybe even Obama were the same. How do you work that much and not sleep? The answer is drugs!
Even if they are "relaxing" the president has a lot of stress, the job physically ages you. Trump being on a golf course is still probably stressing out even if he doesn't give a shit about the US; whether it's about how his personal investments will work out or about his personal vendettas the job is stressful.
Trump was also severely stressed while out of office due to the pressures of the lawsuits he was under. With 12 years of stress the man may be 79 currently, but he's probably way older physically. I don't see him making it through this term and the only way he's made it this far is drugs and a good pharmacist.
lipilee@feddit.nl · 9 pts · 318d
actually, the answer is golfing instead of working :)
ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online · 1 pts · 318d
Obama was called the golfer in chief by Gerald Celente... and Trump golfed more in his first term than Obama did in two.
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 318d
Before 9/11 all Bush did was golf. The country was better off for it.
someguy3@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 319d
Doesn't stress you out when you don't do anything.
Pacattack57@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 318d
Why would you think Obama was on drugs? He was only 56 when his term ended.
HubertManne@piefed.social · 1 pts · 318d
Welll obama cared enough to burn the candle on both ends. I think if he had not been president he would have kicked cigarettes sooner but you could likely say that about politics in general. I can say a much larger percentage of PhD students seemed to smoke compared to the general populace.
Knightfox@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 318d
Here is Obama's stated daily schedule in his first year as president. Take it with a grain of salt since it is a self report, but it's probably not miles away from the truth.
Quick Summary:
Maybe Obama is just built differently, I know some people have genetic differences that mean they need less sleep, but that's a hell of a schedule for your baseline everyday schedule. I wouldn't be surprised in the slightest if the White House had a doctor that prescribed/administered some sort of stimulant.
ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online · 3 pts · 318d
He is a psychopath. Possibly the most psychopathic man to ever be president. He doesn't feel the pain and stress of being president, he thrives on it.
Lincoln would probably have died in his second term if he wasn't assassinated. Have you seen his before and after photos from being in office? He went from being a healthy looking person to being an old man in just 4 years. The stress of being in such a dangerous time for the united states really, really took its toll.
I didn't see that kind of aging in Trump. The guy is such a fucking psychopath that any aging that happened was going to happen anyway.
Steve@startrek.website · 21 pts · 320d
halfeatenpotato@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 319d
While i appreciate the spirit of the pic, this is way more than the dusty old cheetoh deserves. Just throw him in the trash
gnomesaiyan@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 319d
Right into the incinerator. Fire purifies all.
PhAzE@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 319d
It can be filled with real shit constantly, like an outhouse.
MushuChupacabra@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 320d
Accept nothing but a public appearance as proof of good health.
FuckFascism@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 319d
D_C@sh.itjust.works · 8 pts · 319d
Crikey, harsh...but fair. Though a very long and painful illness that is untreatable is preferred.
With just enough brain function for him to realise he's on a slow painful and road to death.
aeternum@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 13 pts · 319d
jerkface@lemmy.ca · 9 pts · 319d
Okay, but WE deserve for him to go away quietly and to never again be reminded that he lived.
D_C@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 319d
We deserve for him -and his children, and his cronies and cohorts- to be imprisoned for the many blatant crimes. However I'll settle for a nice long painful death. The next best is a quick and painful death.
However, him going away and being forgotten is fine if some form of painful death isn't an option.
jerkface@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 319d
You aren't really thinking about your best interests. Humans are really poor at predicting what will make them happy.
ChonkyLincoln@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 319d
^ take my energy!!!! Don’t let our memes be dreams!!!
jaykrown@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 319d
The orange man is still doing stuff.
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/watch-live-trump-hegseth-celebrate-navys-250th-anniversary-at-naval-station-norfolk
Jumbie@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 318d
“Let’s face it, this is a rally,” said the motherfucker to Sailors in their dress uniforms.
MOARbid1@piefed.social · 19 pts · 320d
Let’s hope he strokes out on the shitter. Then we can just flush him.
Kyrgizion@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 320d
May he live as a vegetable for two more decades, although his despicable family members will never have to suffer the indignity of changing his full diapers themselves.
cfi@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 320d
No, because then the cult of personality will live on for as long as he does. People will pretend to be the heirs to him, but the movement will live on for as long as he does.
IndridCold@lemmy.ca · 9 pts · 320d
I want it to happen on camera so I can bookend it with Charlie Kirk.
paraphrand@lemmy.world · -5 pts · 320d
Vile
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 5 pts · 320d
And hopefully an industrious staffer gets a pic or two before they clean it up
TheObviousSolution@lemmy.ca · 18 pts · 319d
People think he rambles a lot, but it has a purpose to it. What I'm worried about is that after meeting with the Project 2025 guy, that rambling might be receiving some calibration as well as a long series of other meetings to see if they go a new route.
I don't think he is really that ill simply because JD Vance would have been picking up a lot more of the slack if that were the case to position himself as the new president.
Then there's also the possibility that he is part of the caste of the country that does actually benefit from having no government oversight or presence during a shutdown. It makes people and groups that much more dependent on the private market alternatives these oligarchs own.
Maybe he isn't making any comments because this is where he wants to be right now. He still controls ICE, the execute and the supreme court can still continue reshaping the US, and he's in a point where he has essentially just hit the pause button on any changes in congress until he can decide how to revert and influence that. He's at the point where people who protest the extended shutdown can be incarcerated as the "radical left" "homegrowns" for whom the shutdown helps prevent any recourse as well, he's putting any loyalist he can into ICE and it has a bigger budget than the rest of the military, he's plunging and farming the value of the US economy which he and his oligarch friends can weather and later buy up on the low. It seems like he might have settled for this as a win condition, so he's no longer making appearances to push things into other agendas for now.
States need to step up if the government remains shut down, this is the perfect opportunity and excuse for them.
melsaskca@lemmy.ca · 21 pts · 319d
You make it seem like he has a plan. I see an aged poser pinballing around in a toddler stomp. We may both be close to the truth.
nomy@lemmy.zip · 10 pts · 319d
He might be twiddling his thumbs but I bet the shadowy cabal controlling the right definitely has a plan and a schedule they're working on.
Dump is in a holding pattern.
TheObviousSolution@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 319d
Trump's "plan" is too choose whatever is best for him psychotically and amorally. He's not where he is right now because he had a plan, but because as you put it, the path was laid for him. It became clear with the drastic changes and statements he began his administration with. A destination was presented to him, and he's tried to follow the path to it with the indications he has been given. Sometimes, he has even blurted out the "landmarks" prematurely, like his comments on Greenland and Canada.
He's just at a point he realizes he can already exploit, which probably seems like a good option to him since some of the directions he has received aren't working out that well for him.
argarath@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 319d
He might not have a plan, but there are people who have and can sell him on doing small simple tasks that rump can actually understand, or at least do, and profit out of
Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 318d
Project2025 confirms this.
TheMinister@sh.itjust.works · 16 pts · 319d
You think with trump and his sycophants and handlers would be willingly parading around their younger, hopeful replacement? “Strongmen” will lie and obfuscate the truth because the lie works. Look how long they’ve managed to get his followers to believe he’s just a virile and Uber healthy, fearless leader. They won’t shove the wet mop with eyes that is JD Vance into the role until they absolutely have no other options. Look all throughout history, these types of fascists have to project strength even when it’s clear they’re old, decrepit and on the edge of death.
drhodl@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 319d
Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip · 17 pts · 320d
The best hide and seeker, many people are saying.
Hopefully no one finds him
SabinStargem@lemmy.today · 17 pts · 320d
I am hoping he lives long enough to prosecute his half of a civil war. We want the bad guys to constantly step on rakes, and Trump is very good at that. Ideally, he should die in the middle of that, so that Thiel, Elon, and the rest of the dickhead gang can fight over the throne at the worst time possible for the Dark "Enlightenment"...no, the Dim Ignorance.
The less good people have to die because of these jackasses, the better.
RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 320d
Yeah, I'd just like him gone now. I wanted a prosecution 5 years ago, and 1 year ago, but I'm over that.
SabinStargem@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 320d
Problem is, the people who created and pushed Project 2025 are still around and supporting their foul agenda. They must die, so that democracy can live. If it takes Trump being the bungler-in-chief for the next couple years...I will put up with it.
Trump is the least competent of the bunch. We need the more dangerous serpents to lose their heads, else they will continue sinking their fangs into us.
RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 319d
He is the mascot. I wouldn't count on the other people being able to hold on to power without him. Maybe they will, but he is an important tool.
fossilesque@mander.xyz · 5 pts · 319d
dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 318d
They may just "Weekend at Bernie's" this shit as far as they can take it.
I'm calling it now. If this keeps up, they'll roll out AI-based addresses and propaganda in his image for a while before they have to face the music. The biggest tell is that if they use his voice, it'll be cogent, understandable, and to the point.
ThePantser@sh.itjust.works · 10 pts · 318d
They already tested the water with the med bed AI video where he spoke too clearly. When they got caught they deleted it.
DozensOfDonner@mander.xyz · 3 pts · 318d
A what bed AI vid? Sorry, EUan here, i missed a few episodes, what happened?
dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 318d
The unholy intersection of snake-oil medicine, AI, propaganda, qanon, and cult-of-personality politics. As someone living here I'm nauseated, and frankly a little scared, that this even got the green light. It's clearly AI generated, but if you're not paying close attention or are unaware that AI is this good now, it's passable.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5aFVZwORYg
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 6 pts · 318d
He promoted a magic bed that cures everything but the evil liberals won't let us have it. RFK Jr has two.
ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online · 17 pts · 319d
I hope he is playing golf. I heard that the strokes they do are grand!
resipsaloquitur@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 319d
He has a history of lying about his strokes.
ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online · 2 pts · 319d
Yes, his balls are carried by others. He is into that.
Bahnd@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 320d
Last time this happened, the indicators that something was up was Vance not being able to keep his mouth shut and tweeting about it. Along with a 300% increase in take out pizza orders at near the pentagon.
I cant imagine they are fully staffed right now, but if I find out something happened because an inordinary number of feds need to get late night pizza, Ill eat my shoe.
ThunderQueen@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 320d
Gammelfisch@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 320d
Ask Vlad for the condition of his agent.
Madison420@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 320d
It's pretty clear he's an Israeli asset and the Russia stuff was misdirection.
CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 320d
Doubtful. Even Israel would want to see us stick around, and operating without this level of dysfunction, you'd think. They need us to remain a world superpower.
With all of these dipshits at the helm and purposefully trying to stoke a civil war, that's very much in jeopardy, which serves the interests of Russia (and China) much more than it does Israel's interests. What other country is going to prop them up like us?
Madison420@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 320d
They're hoping they're the superpower in the end. No one said nor should anyone expect religious lunacy to be especially coherent or moral for that matter.
Tinidril@midwest.social · 3 pts · 320d
Maybe, but you can't throw a stick in DC without hitting an Israeli agent. Anyone that's not a hard core Zionist is still scared to cross AIPAC.
PattyMcB@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 320d
It's a day ending in 'y' so he's probably just golfing
homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 320d
Dang, Bob. Nice one.
mrmanager@lemmy.today · 12 pts · 319d
Check the golf course.
JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 319d
Check the local KFC.
spazzman6156@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 319d
He seems like more of a chick fil a kinda guy
JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 319d
He'd allegedly fil a the chick, whether she wants it or not.
Frenchgeek@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 319d
Above, or under the grass?
Laser@feddit.org · 4 pts · 319d
Possibly next to the mother of his children? He would never allow to be buried there
Formfiller@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 320d
Arrest everyone in this administration
myfunnyaccountname@lemmy.zip · 10 pts · 320d
He was slurring his last big speech as well. This isn’t new. He has been doing this for a while. But it’s also the beginning of the month, time for some mystery IV injections.
Vandals_handle@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 320d
Drusas@fedia.io · 1 pts · 320d
Yes, but his last speech was much worse.
selkiesidhe@sh.itjust.works · 10 pts · 320d
He's just hiding like the fucking coward he is. He didn't like knowing all those smart successful people weren't willing to clap for his brilliance.
Remember how he much he desires to be acknowledged and thought highly of by those types.
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 6 pts · 320d
Too bad he's probably too narcissistic to take the Hitler way out.
echo@lemmy.tf · 9 pts · 320d
He's too busy having a weeklong fuckfest with Satan again. It's almost time for the baby.
desmosthenes@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 320d
he’s hiding scared more likely
finitebanjo@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 319d
Ah man, they might be able to legally mint that coin after all. Fuckers corpse should be buried in a prison yard.
tehn00bi@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 319d
No, buried at sea so they can’t build a monument.
phutatorius@lemmy.zip · 7 pts · 319d
Remains chopped up and fed to pigs would be nicer.
mister_flibble@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 319d
You're gonna give those poor pigs high cholesterol
phutatorius@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 319d
You're right, bad idea. Pigs deserve better.
Wood chipper, then.
ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online · 3 pts · 319d
And cremated.
bagsy@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 319d
Fuck that, i don't want to go to prison to piss on his grave.
finitebanjo@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 319d
Just send the prisoners pedialite a have faith it gets done.
CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 320d
Did Racist Grandpa shuffle off the nursing home property?
sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 5 pts · 320d
I mean, there are only so many golf courses, he's on one of them getting in all those strokes, best place for it.
twice_hatch@midwest.social · 5 pts · 320d
He's so me
Itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 320d
Wasn't there a nazi episode on the the original star trek that might explain this?
Trill88@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 320d
Fuckin beauty buddy keep er up
6stringringer@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 320d
https://youtu.be/69fPof-ZTnU It’s gonna be the college football stadium anthem this fall. It has a catchy beat & all the kids can dance to it. All good in my book. It has the Bob & Connie Dobbs seal of approval. For sure to be a hit. Or perhaps get hit by one yourself. Now sing along to our new jingle. 🎶 Either way it’s so ok to sit & smile & stroke all day🎶
Fenrisulfir@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 320d
The god emperor demands his psykers
TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 319d
That guy is a Tyranid at best
0ndead@infosec.pub · 3 pts · 320d
Catch an
aneurismahem coldRememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 320d
Dude went on a rant about satan the other day. He’s shorting out whatever brain cells he has left.
primrosepathspeedrun@anarchist.nexus · 1 pts · 320d
We can't possibly imagine why.