Well to be fair they did come in to rescue us after Hitlers mess. I'm not against saving Americans from the mess they created. Not sure if i would risk my life, but the ice Gestapo is making me wonder if that would be the humane thing to do. But no judgement from my part, i totally get your fuck-them attitude.
They came and saved us from Hitler once they were under attack themselves, they didn't just jump in immediately. Hitler was quite popular in certain circles in the US before they joined the war. But yeah they did help Europe and the soldiers that gave their life for that are heroes.
On another note, the Soviet Union also helped fight against Hitler as much as the Allies.
the Soviet Union also helped fight against Hitler as much as the Allies.
Both true, i'd prefer if we didn't have to jump in and the US sorts itself out without foreign intervention. But when i see these razzias against people of colour or read stories from the lgbtq, I cannot think it's their problem.
shouldnt lgbtq+ issues in the EU be resolved first by the EU?
edit: i was referencing the fact that half of the voting population of an EU country would rather voting for someone who said that They™ are putting microchips in soda and that someone who allied with nazi germany and was responsible for the deaths of, according to wikipedia, at least a quarter of a million jews was a national hero than for someone who said she was going to make same sex civil unions legal
if they cant ensure that people from one of their countries doesnt vote for someone who said loved nazis and fascists, how can they make sure that a country from another continent wont support someone who requires you knowing the definition of fascism to say he is one
Hitler was still popular in the US with more people than most would guess even after the war. Racism is deeply ingrained into the US state, has been from the very start (obviously) and never left.
Don't worry, there's no way that the US wouldn't make it Europe's problem if he started invading other nations.
He could only invade Mexico or South America without triggering article 5. Since Canada and Greenland (through Denmark) are both NATO members if he messes with them then its immediately a good chunk of Europe's problem. There's also French Guiana in South America and some islands in the carribean I forgot when I started typing that would also trigger article 5.
US was hesitate to join yet another european squabble. The horrors of WW1 was still fresh in people's minds. Also, the us wasnt sitting on their hands as it was becoming inevitable US would be forced to join. The US probably would had declared war on germany in 1942 even if japan never attacked.
On another note, the Soviet Union also helped fight against Hitler as much as the Allies.
The same one that was allied with hitler and invaded poland side by side? We're just lucky hitler was a dumbass and back stabbed them.
Newsflash, Hitler was quite popular in countries all across Europe before he invaded those people's countries. Antisemitism has always been a reoccurring issue in Europe and the US, with many people and governments supporting the Nazi's opinion about Jews. Most people supported a nonconfrontational policy of letting Germany do their own thing so long as they didn't come after them...and then Germany came after them. The idea that Hitler's popularity was limited to any one country is whitewashing of history to hide the fact that he had the implicit support of many in Europe who either agreed with him or simply didn't want to start another Great War. It's the same reason that the foundation and recognition of Israel as a country had widespread support across Europe and the US from many antisemitic groups/people in power. They saw it as a perfect solution to get rid of Jews in Europe. They were even volunteering to deport themselves to the desert!
That's not to say that the US is some knight in shining armor goody two shoes or something. The US is the only other country to have held Nazi rallies, and almost joined the war on the other side once or twice. But the US was also largely focused on a policy of isolationism and wanted to stay out of a war in Europe. The US also spent years funding England during the early part of the war, who first used that money to send additional funds to France alongside that which they already were, and then used that money themselves when they actively joined the war. And the US provided all kinds of military equipment to the Allies before entering the war through the Lend-Lease program. The general opinion that I see is that the US was gearing up to officially enter the war when Japan bombed Pearl Harbor, and that that had the effect of an inciting incident which caused any pro-isolationist groups within the country to change their position and accelerated the US's timetable rather than being the reason that the US got involved at all.
Like fuck they did. The U.S. came in at the butt end after Russia sent millions of their people into the meat grinder.
People love to give the U.S. a clap on the back, but in reality they're the slacker who did fuck all during the group project, and then came in at the very tail-end of the presentation, subsequently getting all the acknowledgement for it.
Churchill is hailed as a hero when he fucking starved millions of Indians, and withheld that information from their families he forced to the front, and who the fuck this day and age thanks the Indians for their contribution in saving Europe's ass?
Mexico's biggest problem is America. And Europe better stay the fuck away, we have brought nothing but horror to Mexico. Or to the Americas as such, honestly.
Mexico's problems largely boil down to drug trafficking to America for American dollars and fuelled by American weapons flowing into the country. This is highly contemporary.
The history of Mexico is the history of Europeans entering into a place where they had no business at all and killing and destroying everything because they fucking suck. That was way before 1825, but I see no reason to forget about it.
Funny enough those weirdos were welcomed in rather generously by the Netherlands who wanted to provide refuge.
But the fact that they were so open and not prejudiced enough disgusted the Quakers who tried desperately to shame them with Preaching Tours™ until the Quakers decided to leave entirely.
You may be conflating the quakers with a different religious group.
While still a religious group, the quakers are largely one of the most accepting. They were initially given trouble by the Dutch. Their numbers have never really been high enough to have the type of social sway that you're thinking.
Maybe you're thinking the puritans or pilgrims? They're the ones who kinda took over. Shame, inherent sin and all that.
The quakers are the pacifist abolitionists who think church should be a group of people quietly thinking in someone's home until someone feels moved to share an idea.
While it would be better if our country was less religiously locked in, I'm pretty sure if it was the quakers that rose to prevalence we'd be way better off, even if only from the "not my job to enforce your morality" part.
Yup. As a native New Englander, I can see the entire region south of the St. Lawrence waterway and south down the eastern seaboard to Philadelphia falling under the name Atlantic Arcadia and it's tied together by a North Atlantic marine maritime culture of transatlantic trade and languages.
Meh, New England alone is 15 million people. I would much rather see them become independent republics than having to integrate millions of Americans into Canada. Then we can create a North American Union with Schengen and shared international common institutions. Make our own EU with blackjack and hookers.
This kind of map really shows how much people use alternate history to think through fears and ‘what ifs.’ Even when it’s exaggerated, it’s interesting as a reflection of the moment more than a prediction.
I'm aware that the Treaty of Hidalgo formalised and legalised the US annexation of Texas and New Mexico, but the US Southwest was literally stolen, to begin with, from Mexico.
The territories in Canada still get to vote and be represented, you would likely become a province because of your population.
Well I will take that back I do not think you would get a vote if you are occupied, but keep your neighbours believing in the colour red. Canada like the rest of the democratic world uses red to think of liberals.
Fuck off with that flag for California, we have dozens of them from the bear flag revolt that could be used assuming we don't just stick with the one we've been using since the revolt and they go with the worst one. I know it's source and it was quiet literally lost outside of a photo because it was tossed in the trash.
Ya know I get the joke that your trying to make but it doesn't really have bite when you know about the old Californian line star flags. Usually a sole star on the center of a flag with a lot of color variations, though most were a red star on a white base, it's the California equivalent of shitty bedsheet state flags.
No, just like living in the American sector didn't make you America, you where (West) German.
Considering you are in the east, I recommend getting into Ossi (East German) cooking:
Jesus, Mary and Joseph. I'm Mexican, so, I'm gonna be bold and admit our cuisine is heaven. No offense intended, this looks like food for mere survival.
None taken, this is specifically east german food, that was universally known because it was often served in schools and canteens.
We also have better food here, but I still think milk noodles are great.
Wellll, the Michigan Upper Peninsula does use “eh” mostly properly, so they’re partway there, but the local specialty seems to be prisons, so we may need some realignment for them first.
I for one welcome our new overlords from the great white north! As an oregonian I’m just happy to keep the MLS I-5 cascadia cup rivalry going… even if their bacon sucks!
"fun" fact: we could never actually glass the earth, but with the success of disarmament work we're at the point where, with perfect geometry, ideal yields, and a generous definition of "glass" the biggest country we could do that to is Luxembourg.
The moral of the story: strategic arms reduction treaties work, they're just very slow.
Math.
Our typical warhead (100kt) leaves a 200m radius crater if used to maximize the crater size. (Experiment in using nukes for mining and terrain shaping).
We have less than 6000. 6000 π (0.2 km)^2^ ~ 6000(0.125km^2^ ) ~ 754km^2^ < 2,586 km^2^.
Nukes are dangerous because (other than the obvious) of what they do to the air, not the ground.
Unfortunately for you, the US-Russia-China alliance would win easily
EDIT: My bad, this was an oversimplified and sensationalist statement. I've elaborated in the comment below. I didn't mean to imply these entities actually like each other
Spheres of influence. "The western hemisphere is ours"
The US takes "the western hemisphere", Russia takes Europe, China takes Asia
Everyone who downvoted is ignorant of this or has a different definition of alliance. Alliances are not always officially stated
Not to mention China's support, through bots and trolls on social media, for far-right politicians in Europe, including the recently cancelled and re-held Romanian presidential election where Calin Georgescu, some random MAGA-aligned Romanian politician essentially went #1 on TikTok and TikTok "didn't notice"
Also, Russia and China are allies and the US and Russia are allies
China does not support Ukraine. The US does not support Ukraine. China. Is. Not. Our. Friend. Even the map we're looking at implies China is not on the EU/Mexico/Canada side.
The more I look at those downvotes the more perplexed I am. I guess I was too literal and sensationalist in my initial statement and people reacted to that. Good for them.
EDIT: I hope I'm not coming off as a ranting asshole. Needless to say, my gears have been ground
no shot, the US is actually kinda fucked if they get in a serious international war. There'd be a huge fifth column that could get supplied through Canada and Mexico
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Kepion@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 108 pts · 221d
Would be a shame to pass up on such a good opportunity for California hoisting this flag.
gustofwind@lemmy.world · 89 pts · 221d
Good luck Europe lmao
Kirp123@lemmy.world · 59 pts · 221d
Fuck no. As an European we don't want any of this shit. Americans can handle their own mess.
huppakee@piefed.social · 18 pts · 221d
Well to be fair they did come in to rescue us after Hitlers mess. I'm not against saving Americans from the mess they created. Not sure if i would risk my life, but the ice Gestapo is making me wonder if that would be the humane thing to do. But no judgement from my part, i totally get your fuck-them attitude.
Kirp123@lemmy.world · 28 pts · 221d
They came and saved us from Hitler once they were under attack themselves, they didn't just jump in immediately. Hitler was quite popular in certain circles in the US before they joined the war. But yeah they did help Europe and the soldiers that gave their life for that are heroes.
On another note, the Soviet Union also helped fight against Hitler as much as the Allies.
huppakee@piefed.social · 10 pts · 221d
Both true, i'd prefer if we didn't have to jump in and the US sorts itself out without foreign intervention. But when i see these razzias against people of colour or read stories from the lgbtq, I cannot think it's their problem.
atopi@piefed.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 221d
shouldnt lgbtq+ issues in the EU be resolved first by the EU?
edit: i was referencing the fact that half of the voting population of an EU country would rather voting for someone who said that They™ are putting microchips in soda and that someone who allied with nazi germany and was responsible for the deaths of, according to wikipedia, at least a quarter of a million jews was a national hero than for someone who said she was going to make same sex civil unions legal
if they cant ensure that people from one of their countries doesnt vote for someone who said loved nazis and fascists, how can they make sure that a country from another continent wont support someone who requires you knowing the definition of fascism to say he is one
huppakee@piefed.social · -1 pts · 220d
Sure, but according to that logic Europe would speak german because the us was still resolving racism issues in the us first.
atopi@piefed.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 220d
was the purpose of the USA intervention during the war solving racism in the EU?
if it was, they failed
Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 7 pts · 221d
The soviets after the nazis attacked them lol.
hypnicjerk@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 221d
the soviets two years after signing an agreement that parted up europe between hitler and stalin.
bufalo1973@piefed.social · 0 pts · 220d
The Soviets after England and France not wanting to have an alliance against the Nazis (that was the reason of the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact).
M137@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 221d
Hitler was still popular in the US with more people than most would guess even after the war. Racism is deeply ingrained into the US state, has been from the very start (obviously) and never left.
arrow74@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 221d
Don't worry, there's no way that the US wouldn't make it Europe's problem if he started invading other nations.
He could only invade Mexico or South America without triggering article 5. Since Canada and Greenland (through Denmark) are both NATO members if he messes with them then its immediately a good chunk of Europe's problem. There's also French Guiana in South America and some islands in the carribean I forgot when I started typing that would also trigger article 5.
piccolo@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 221d
US was hesitate to join yet another european squabble. The horrors of WW1 was still fresh in people's minds. Also, the us wasnt sitting on their hands as it was becoming inevitable US would be forced to join. The US probably would had declared war on germany in 1942 even if japan never attacked.
The same one that was allied with hitler and invaded poland side by side? We're just lucky hitler was a dumbass and back stabbed them.
EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 220d
Newsflash, Hitler was quite popular in countries all across Europe before he invaded those people's countries. Antisemitism has always been a reoccurring issue in Europe and the US, with many people and governments supporting the Nazi's opinion about Jews. Most people supported a nonconfrontational policy of letting Germany do their own thing so long as they didn't come after them...and then Germany came after them. The idea that Hitler's popularity was limited to any one country is whitewashing of history to hide the fact that he had the implicit support of many in Europe who either agreed with him or simply didn't want to start another Great War. It's the same reason that the foundation and recognition of Israel as a country had widespread support across Europe and the US from many antisemitic groups/people in power. They saw it as a perfect solution to get rid of Jews in Europe. They were even volunteering to deport themselves to the desert!
That's not to say that the US is some knight in shining armor goody two shoes or something. The US is the only other country to have held Nazi rallies, and almost joined the war on the other side once or twice. But the US was also largely focused on a policy of isolationism and wanted to stay out of a war in Europe. The US also spent years funding England during the early part of the war, who first used that money to send additional funds to France alongside that which they already were, and then used that money themselves when they actively joined the war. And the US provided all kinds of military equipment to the Allies before entering the war through the Lend-Lease program. The general opinion that I see is that the US was gearing up to officially enter the war when Japan bombed Pearl Harbor, and that that had the effect of an inciting incident which caused any pro-isolationist groups within the country to change their position and accelerated the US's timetable rather than being the reason that the US got involved at all.
Dojan@pawb.social · 1 pts · 220d
Like fuck they did. The U.S. came in at the butt end after Russia sent millions of their people into the meat grinder.
People love to give the U.S. a clap on the back, but in reality they're the slacker who did fuck all during the group project, and then came in at the very tail-end of the presentation, subsequently getting all the acknowledgement for it.
Churchill is hailed as a hero when he fucking starved millions of Indians, and withheld that information from their families he forced to the front, and who the fuck this day and age thanks the Indians for their contribution in saving Europe's ass?
Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 221d
No, no, no. The map has been made. No take backsies.
edible_funk@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 221d
Chicago is a decent get. Not sure if worth the rest of Illinois though.
guyoverthere123@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 12 pts · 221d
If anything, the quality of education would improve.
gustofwind@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 221d
Well it can’t get much worse
hesh@quokk.au · 11 pts · 221d
Honestly yeah that part made me lol
redlemace@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 221d
Can't we pay mexico, canada or venezuela to take that part ?
gustofwind@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 221d
I don’t think even god could afford the cost of taking in and rehabilitating the former confederacy
a_non_monotonic_function@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 221d
Can we trade Mex for EU? I'm of Mex heritage, but I'd rather be ran by the EU, personally.
cabbage@piefed.social · 8 pts · 221d
Mexico's biggest problem is America. And Europe better stay the fuck away, we have brought nothing but horror to Mexico. Or to the Americas as such, honestly.
Pringles@sopuli.xyz · 2 pts · 221d
What year is it in your head? 1825?
cabbage@piefed.social · 10 pts · 221d
Mexico's problems largely boil down to drug trafficking to America for American dollars and fuelled by American weapons flowing into the country. This is highly contemporary.
The history of Mexico is the history of Europeans entering into a place where they had no business at all and killing and destroying everything because they fucking suck. That was way before 1825, but I see no reason to forget about it.
thefluffiest@feddit.nl · 6 pts · 221d
Yeah no we’d rather not. I say we give that part to Venezuela as reparations.
We’ll have the northeast. You know, New England, New Netherlands, New Sweden
Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca · 60 pts · 221d
I don’t think anyone would want Florida, can we just sink it?
0ops@piefed.zip · 71 pts · 221d
lividweasel@lemmy.world · 41 pts · 221d
[Climate change]: “Workin’ on it!”
Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 18 pts · 221d
Let nature reclaim it, and the rest of the gulf coast. Let it return to mangrove forests and be less absolutely ratfucked by hurricanes.
halcyoncmdr@piefed.social · 13 pts · 221d
Give it back to Spain.
a_non_monotonic_function@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 221d
Why would they accept? Seriously. When you drive in there is a billboard reminding you not to get drunk and have sex with your daughter.
Like that is a for real thing to remind people of.
foodandart@lemmy.zip · 13 pts · 221d
G.T.F.O..
halcyoncmdr@piefed.social · 32 pts · 221d
Circa 2010
foodandart@lemmy.zip · 19 pts · 221d
Oh. My. Fucking. God!
that is... jesus christ on a motherfucking cracker, what is wrong with southerners?
chocrates@piefed.world · 6 pts · 221d
That's nbd, those are all over the south...
sukhmel@programming.dev · 5 pts · 221d
Also, getting is an drunk never excuse
thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 221d
Getting is an drunk never excuse.
a_non_monotonic_function@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 221d
Well, by now you've seen the creepy SOB.
It's fucking real and fucking big, towering over the road at the GA boarder.
AzuranAurora@piefed.ca · 3 pts · 221d
Sink, Florida, Sink!
_stranger_@lemmy.world · 43 pts · 221d
🇲🇽 MAKE TEXAS MEXICO AGAIN 🇲🇽
fox2263@lemmy.world · 42 pts · 221d
Europe doesn’t want any of it. We had it before and look at the mess that come of it.
Canada can have it
BastingChemina@slrpnk.net · 17 pts · 221d
We definitely don't want Florida
MrMakabar@slrpnk.net · 27 pts · 221d
Then hand it over to Cuba.
baggachipz@sh.itjust.works · 11 pts · 221d
This scene was so ahead of its time
OneWomanCreamTeam@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 221d
There's a lot to love about Florida, especially once you get rid of the Floridians.
fibojoly@sh.itjust.works · 14 pts · 221d
For real, people keep forgetting where the USA comes from...
Damorte@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 221d
Krauerking@lemy.lol · 2 pts · 221d
Funny enough those weirdos were welcomed in rather generously by the Netherlands who wanted to provide refuge.
But the fact that they were so open and not prejudiced enough disgusted the Quakers who tried desperately to shame them with Preaching Tours™ until the Quakers decided to leave entirely.
They were always gonna be like this.
ricecake@sh.itjust.works · 10 pts · 221d
You may be conflating the quakers with a different religious group.
While still a religious group, the quakers are largely one of the most accepting. They were initially given trouble by the Dutch. Their numbers have never really been high enough to have the type of social sway that you're thinking.
Maybe you're thinking the puritans or pilgrims? They're the ones who kinda took over. Shame, inherent sin and all that.
The quakers are the pacifist abolitionists who think church should be a group of people quietly thinking in someone's home until someone feels moved to share an idea.
While it would be better if our country was less religiously locked in, I'm pretty sure if it was the quakers that rose to prevalence we'd be way better off, even if only from the "not my job to enforce your morality" part.
Honytawk@feddit.nl · 2 pts · 221d
No, it was mainly populated by hosers who didn't want to pay taxes.
No_Money_Just_Change@feddit.org · 40 pts · 221d
I like that California was granted independence but Hawaii just declared it
Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works · 13 pts · 221d
It's pretty sad what happened to Hawaii. They really want nothing to do with the US if you strip away everything else.
Everyone should look up the fucked up stuff Mark Fuckerberg is doing over there.
w3ird_sloth@lemmy.world · 34 pts · 221d
This was definitely made by someone from California.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 221d
Imagine thinking California wouldn't immediately reconqeuor the Mountain West.
That state is a bubbling caldron of American fascism. It's going full Imperial Japan the moment DC losses the leash.
w3ird_sloth@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 221d
Literally the home base of techno fascism.
Madison420@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 221d
The hopeful bit is ignoring the fact that like a solid quarter to a third of us military might is stationed in and around California.
Xanthrax@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 220d
Nah, NCR.
reddit_sux@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 220d
National Capital Region
kandoh@reddthat.com · 25 pts · 221d
Looks like entire landmass of baja was destroyed in the conflict
Agent641@lemmy.world · 23 pts · 221d
The North American continent sheds it's Baja when threatened, but it regrows after a while.
kandoh@reddthat.com · 9 pts · 221d
Lol, got a good chuckle out of me there
TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world · 23 pts · 221d
China looking at Hawaii: This is mine.
favoredponcho@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 221d
bufalo1973@piefed.social · 1 pts · 220d
No need to fight. Commercial partners is good enough and has all the benefits without the dead count.
DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works · 0 pts · 221d
The People's Republic of the Pacific Islands, sibling to DPRK
Gammelfisch@lemmy.world · 21 pts · 221d
The entire Florida Oblast should be returned to nature.
P00ptart@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 221d
Please just give me this, name it the New California Republic.
ajmaxwell@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 221d
Honestly, I'm ok with this
foodandart@lemmy.zip · 13 pts · 221d
Yup. As a native New Englander, I can see the entire region south of the St. Lawrence waterway and south down the eastern seaboard to Philadelphia falling under the name Atlantic Arcadia and it's tied together by a North Atlantic marine maritime culture of transatlantic trade and languages.
TheMightyCanuck@sh.itjust.works · 17 pts · 221d
Europe gets Florida?
Rough trade lmao
Tja@programming.dev · 4 pts · 221d
Yeah, no thanks. Let Cuba have that.
bufalo1973@piefed.social · 2 pts · 220d
It would be ironic that a place full of Cuban immigrants that left Cuba ended up in a Cuban territory.
bufalo1973@piefed.social · 2 pts · 220d
Florida, yes. Floridians... we'll see.
paequ2@lemmy.today · 16 pts · 221d
Mexico reclaiming its land from 1846: feelsgoodman.jpg
JackbyDev@programming.dev · 16 pts · 221d
Atlanta can join Eurovision wooooo
musubibreakfast@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 220d
New Orleans will go back to speaking French.
thoughtfuldragon@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 15 pts · 221d
I would be so happy if 2036 looked like this.
Mwa@thelemmy.club · 14 pts · 221d
the good ending.
Blackmist@feddit.uk · 14 pts · 221d
Patrolling the Mojave almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter.
Etterra@discuss.online · 7 pts · 221d
When I got this assignment I was hoping there'd be more gambling.
theacharnian@lemmy.ca · 14 pts · 221d
Meh, New England alone is 15 million people. I would much rather see them become independent republics than having to integrate millions of Americans into Canada. Then we can create a North American Union with Schengen and shared international common institutions. Make our own EU with blackjack and hookers.
Sine_Fine_Belli@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 221d
Based and North American Union pilled
lauracor@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 221d
This kind of map really shows how much people use alternate history to think through fears and ‘what ifs.’ Even when it’s exaggerated, it’s interesting as a reflection of the moment more than a prediction.
Jarix@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 220d
It's great fodder for future creative works.
Much like most post apocalyptic works, it let us theory craft how things could be different
UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml · 13 pts · 221d
We can still be united, despite everything. See the public support of Luigi as an example.
TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 220d
I'm aware that the Treaty of Hidalgo formalised and legalised the US annexation of Texas and New Mexico, but the US Southwest was literally stolen, to begin with, from Mexico.
Time for reconquista!
Limonene@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 221d
As a Wisconsinite, I have 3 thoughts:
Reannlegge@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 220d
The territories in Canada still get to vote and be represented, you would likely become a province because of your population. Well I will take that back I do not think you would get a vote if you are occupied, but keep your neighbours believing in the colour red. Canada like the rest of the democratic world uses red to think of liberals.
vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works · 12 pts · 220d
Fuck off with that flag for California, we have dozens of them from the bear flag revolt that could be used assuming we don't just stick with the one we've been using since the revolt and they go with the worst one. I know it's source and it was quiet literally lost outside of a photo because it was tossed in the trash.
GuyIncognito@lemmy.ca · 10 pts · 220d
The two-headed bear was right there
vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 220d
Even the two bears high fiving would be better than this bastardized lone star variant.
titanicx@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 220d
Texafornia
vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 220d
Ya know I get the joke that your trying to make but it doesn't really have bite when you know about the old Californian line star flags. Usually a sole star on the center of a flag with a lot of color variations, though most were a red star on a white base, it's the California equivalent of shitty bedsheet state flags.
ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 221d
Mexico gets the short end of the stick as usual.
halferect@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 221d
I mean Texas and New Mexico? That's a fuck ton of oil.
JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 221d
I want to see Mexican Landowners taking advantage of Midwestern white people so badly
OlPatchy2Eyes@slrpnk.net · 7 pts · 221d
What an odd thing to say
JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca · -1 pts · 221d
I'm an odd fella, I just think turnabout is fair play.
kittenzrulz123@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 11 pts · 221d
As a New Yorker I would love an independent socialist Republic :3
DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 221d
Quite fitting actually, since NYC just elected a Democratic Socialist to lead
bufalo1973@piefed.social · 0 pts · 220d
Democratic socialism is not the same as socialism. One is center-left and the other is left.
QueenHawlSera@sh.itjust.works · 11 pts · 221d
Woo~ I get to live in Europe!
Chais@sh.itjust.works · 18 pts · 221d
No. You get to live in the EU. The difference is geographical.
anton@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 221d
No, just like living in the American sector didn't make you America, you where (West) German.
Considering you are in the east, I recommend getting into Ossi (East German) cooking:
selokichtli@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 220d
Jesus, Mary and Joseph. I'm Mexican, so, I'm gonna be bold and admit our cuisine is heaven. No offense intended, this looks like food for mere survival.
anton@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 220d
None taken, this is specifically east german food, that was universally known because it was often served in schools and canteens.
We also have better food here, but I still think milk noodles are great.
BoosBeau@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 220d
Florida here - either give us to Mexico or sink us into the ocean
doublenom@lemmy.ca · 13 pts · 220d
Don't worry, we'll go with the second choice
BoosBeau@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 220d
grabs pool floaty and a fruity drink
Formfiller@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 221d
California is joining Denmark they paid for it with healthcare and pastries
outerspace@lemmy.zip · 10 pts · 220d
Where is china
Flames5123@sh.itjust.works · 10 pts · 221d
Honestly, Cascadia would be so great. The PNW is gorgeous, and we’d fit in with Canada (at least the heavy population centers).
razzazzika@lemmy.zip · 10 pts · 221d
Yell yeah I get to be canadian!
ShamanRonin@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 221d
There’s a lot of garbage in that Eurozone
sartalon@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 221d
Oh come on, Canada, you can do better than that.
baggachipz@sh.itjust.works · 9 pts · 221d
I actively welcome this, I’d be an EU citizen!
rumba@lemmy.zip · 8 pts · 221d
This would work, I could drive a little to get get poutine and travel around Europe on unrestricted visas.
Ummdustry@sh.itjust.works · 8 pts · 221d
no china?
rumba@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 221d
This is after 3, not 4
Agent641@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 221d
United States of Puerto Rico
BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 220d
I support this. No notes.
thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 7 pts · 221d
No, California becomes part of Denmark
Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 221d
Feel bad for the Europeans.
OhStopYellingAtMe@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 220d
Yes please.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 221d
Florida is America's Israel. It will remain a hold out for decades, before rapidly metastasizing into the Gulf Coast and Appalachians
rumba@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 221d
It's either that* *or flood plains :) edit: a word or two
Xenny@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 221d
Fuck yeah cascadia also we're Canadian!
SoleInvictus@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 221d
Hey neighbor!! I'm stocking up on Tim Horton's gift cards in preparation.
Jarix@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 220d
I think we should gift Florida to Cuba in return for a un backed and approved constitution rework/rewrite
MarshallBravestarr@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 221d
Can IL be included with Canada too?
Sine_Fine_Belli@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 220d
Yes
doingthestuff@lemy.lol · 6 pts · 220d
If the US loses WWIII the only thing left will be a little bit of remote wilderness not suited for anything but trying to hide.
sundaymidnight@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 221d
Aliette De Bodart, The cycle of Xuxa (alternative history of North America).
carpelbridgesyndrome@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 221d
The EU and particularly Mexico drew a short stick here
Jesus_666@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 221d
At least Mexico gets oil. All the EU gets is Disneyland.
TherapyGary@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 5 pts · 221d
The EU already has a Disneyland (in Paris); they'd be getting Disney World, which is honestly way cooler
zaphod@sopuli.xyz · 4 pts · 221d
It's an occupation zone. We fully intend on giving it back once we brought them democracy.
ironhydroxide@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 221d
Guess I better start learning Spanish, or move east and learn German.
ceenote@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 221d
That's... optimistic. The notion that China wouldn't get the biggest slice is downright ridiculous.
mtpender@piefed.social · 5 pts · 221d
Florida should join Australia.
Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca · 8 pts · 221d
Australia could send all their criminals there.
foodandart@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 221d
Ehhh. Florida Man would eat their faces off!
Agent641@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 221d
Hey man fuck you.
favoredponcho@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 221d
foodandart@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 221d
New England and the Pacific Northwest are the most "Canadian" parts of America.
SreudianFlip@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 221d
Wellll, the Michigan Upper Peninsula does use “eh” mostly properly, so they’re partway there, but the local specialty seems to be prisons, so we may need some realignment for them first.
resipsaloquitur@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 221d
California Republic already has a flag, but we can replace the red star with a maple leaf.
javiwhite@feddit.uk · 10 pts · 221d
I think this would be a new California republic.... Which coincidentally also has a flag
resipsaloquitur@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 221d
Reunite Alta and Baja Californias? ¡Andelé pues! Tamales para todos.
Bullerfar@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 220d
Love the fact that Washington just turns Canada doping ww3 😂
Bazell@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 221d
You forgot about China zone.
DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 221d
Ew fuck CCP.
Also are they really sending their only-children to war lmao? Imagine the outrage if the parenta lose their only child, their bloodline would be over.
Bazell@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 221d
I dunno. But China will be very glad to get a piece of the USA even by the cost of some lives.
Etterra@discuss.online · 5 pts · 221d
This is fine by me. I'm right on the EU side of the EU and Canada border, so I've got some good options.
compostgoblin@piefed.blahaj.zone · 5 pts · 221d
If you’re going to take Wisconsin and Michigan, you should get Chicago too, at the very least
mrslt@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 221d
Yes, please.
tino@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 220d
Europe: "Nice, let's relaunch this well organized cane sugar and cotton business"
justOnePersistentKbinPlease@fedia.io · 5 pts · 221d
I would not hoist the bible belt on Mexico. They don't deserve that.
goldfndr@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 220d
Surely you mean foist not hoist.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 4 pts · 221d
college humor predicted this map.
FancyLad@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 221d
What happens to the Toledo strip? Will we side with the EU or Canada?
mkhopper@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 221d
EU. Didn't be thinking you can just slide in with your Ohio garbage.
(Just kidding.... Ohio is ok.)
((Just kidding... As a lifelong resident of SE Michigan, Ohio can suck it. 😄))
csynthare@crazypeople.online · 4 pts · 220d
I'm cool with where PA sits. Maybe the Eagles will have better luck in the CFL.
Rhoeri@piefed.world · 4 pts · 221d
I like this better. We’re part of Canada! Wooo!
acockworkorange@mander.xyz · 3 pts · 220d
What happened to Mexico?
Assassassin@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 221d
¡Viva Mexico!
YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 220d
Dafuq happened to Baja California‽
madjo@feddit.nl · 2 pts · 220d
it got flooded during the war.
Gonzako@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 221d
Nothing for Greenland?
felixwhynot@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 221d
Manhattan would like a word. Independent also?
libre_warrior@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 220d
I thought California would be part of Denmark.
JoMiran@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 221d
Fuck PR, Guam and the USVI I guess.
DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social · 8 pts · 221d
Obviously the colonial possessions were freed
chunes@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 221d
Good luck with the fallout
calamitycastle@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 221d
The restaurants in St Louis, MO would be insane.
ImperialATAT@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 220d
I for one welcome our new overlords from the great white north! As an oregonian I’m just happy to keep the MLS I-5 cascadia cup rivalry going… even if their bacon sucks!
boolean_sledgehammer@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 221d
I'm good with this.
RickyRigatoni@retrolemmy.com · 2 pts · 221d
The entirety of north and south america are just european occupation zones already.
Yeller_king@reddthat.com · 2 pts · 220d
Sounds good overall, but I'm glad I don't live in the area occupied by Mexico.
Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 221d
So does Canada get Alaska or Russia?
JackBinimbul@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 221d
Can't believe I'm saying this, but maybe I'll move to Florida . . .
dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 220d
Where Alaska and Hawaii and Puerto Rico and guam
oascany@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 220d
Alaska and Hawaii are in there. PR and Guam presumably independent.
dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 219d
I’m so blind wtf
m3t00@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 220d
oh can ada
RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 221d
MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 221d
RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 221d
Really? Why? Plenty of Europeans live in a California-like climate, and plenty of them vacation in southern Europe expressly to enjoy such a climate.
Abundance114@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 221d
What a load of garbage. The surface of the earth is turned to glass before we lose a single major city. Lose lose for everyone.
ricecake@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 221d
"fun" fact: we could never actually glass the earth, but with the success of disarmament work we're at the point where, with perfect geometry, ideal yields, and a generous definition of "glass" the biggest country we could do that to is Luxembourg.
The moral of the story: strategic arms reduction treaties work, they're just very slow.
5wim@slrpnk.net · 1 pts · 220d
I'm not sure about that fact, there are thousands of active warheads. Do you have a source?
ricecake@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 220d
Math.
Our typical warhead (100kt) leaves a 200m radius crater if used to maximize the crater size. (Experiment in using nukes for mining and terrain shaping). We have less than 6000. 6000 π (0.2 km)^2^ ~ 6000(0.125km^2^ ) ~ 754km^2^ < 2,586 km^2^.
Nukes are dangerous because (other than the obvious) of what they do to the air, not the ground.
Abundance114@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 220d
I understand that; the expression isn't literal; and we never had enough nukes to glass the surface of earth regardless of arms reduction treaties.
ricecake@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 220d
You'd be surprised how many people don't. It's a good fun fact, and I stand by supporting arms reduction regardless. :)
Etterra@discuss.online · 3 pts · 221d
Don't tease me with a quick, painless death.
SethTaylor@lemmy.world · -5 pts · 220d
You should be so lucky
Unfortunately for you, the US-Russia-China alliance would win easily
EDIT: My bad, this was an oversimplified and sensationalist statement. I've elaborated in the comment below. I didn't mean to imply these entities actually like each other
Cruxifux@feddit.nl · 6 pts · 220d
Why on earth do you think the US would ally with China?
SethTaylor@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 220d
Spheres of influence. "The western hemisphere is ours"
The US takes "the western hemisphere", Russia takes Europe, China takes Asia
Everyone who downvoted is ignorant of this or has a different definition of alliance. Alliances are not always officially stated
Not to mention China's support, through bots and trolls on social media, for far-right politicians in Europe, including the recently cancelled and re-held Romanian presidential election where Calin Georgescu, some random MAGA-aligned Romanian politician essentially went #1 on TikTok and TikTok "didn't notice"
Also, Russia and China are allies and the US and Russia are allies
China does not support Ukraine. The US does not support Ukraine. China. Is. Not. Our. Friend. Even the map we're looking at implies China is not on the EU/Mexico/Canada side.
The more I look at those downvotes the more perplexed I am. I guess I was too literal and sensationalist in my initial statement and people reacted to that. Good for them.
EDIT: I hope I'm not coming off as a ranting asshole. Needless to say, my gears have been ground
mika_mika@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 220d
You went and pissed on their hypothetical where the US is weak. Of course they are to downvote you. They just wanted a lil circlejerk.
djsoren19@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 220d
no shot, the US is actually kinda fucked if they get in a serious international war. There'd be a huge fifth column that could get supplied through Canada and Mexico