Probably because Netflix has a habit of often cancelling shows after a season or two. Why should viewers get invested in a shot if there's a good chance they will be cancelled?
Also, too many Netflix shows are pretty shit these days.
Saaame. I got so angry when they canceled it. It broke my trust in them to deliver an end to any shows. Then they kept doing it. Left quite a long time ago and will not go back. There's just nothing worth the money on Neflix.
Yup they just aren't willing to allow a show to take time to establish themselves, many people won't discover a show until its a few seasons in or even finished yet they can't stand it if a show doesn't get lots of views in season one.
Its not just Netflix these days. Every new show seems to start their life on the chopping block. If the first season doesn't get enough views in the first few days its out then season two doesn't even get made. If it does do okay then they get to start writing a second season, which means another 2 years before we get a second season and by then we have completely forgotten the show until you read about it getting cancelled 2 weeks after season 2 came out because nobody tuned in.
The costs have ballooned too much. When seasons were 18 episodes and it costs $100k per episode, it made sense to serialize. Often they were written as they were filmed. Now every episode costs $10 million and preproduction takes a year before the first scene can be filmed with massive post production. No one has really cracked the formula for making TV formats work well on streaming services. The all at once for binge watching only works if you already have a massive archive of shows to expose. The one episode a week for short boutique series that run a season every 3 years is not working well either.
I refuse to start watching a show until it's finished. I get to watch the entire series at my own pace (no waiting a week between episodes or years between seasons), I avoid stewing in my opinions and reading public opinion during the hiatus and having that affect my enjoyment of the next season, and I don't have to worry about the abrupt emotional disturbance of a premature cancelation. The only downside is having to avoid spoilers and not being able to join in conversation with others who are actually watching it while it originally airs.
I agree. Other people are referencing how Netflix cancels shows after one season, but that doesn't seem relevant here. We're talking about people who do watch season 1 but not season 2.
Only for mediocre shows tbh. It took 3 years for Severance S2 and it was highly awaited still. Now after S2 I'm even more excited for S3 and don't care if they take 2 or 3 years as long as the quality stays there.
But I don't remember when Netflix had something I was so excited for.
Wait, I do actually. The Witcher. Super excited, didn't care that they took 2 years... But then S2 was nowhere near as great as S1 and S3 just took a nosedive.
There's a reason S1 was highly memed and the other seasons not.
Don't forget the step in between 4 and 5 where Netflix recalculates the interest in season 2 and drastically changes the scope and pacing, making it more jarring for returning viewers or turning them off before the season drops
Or what about how the first fifteen minutes of each season 2 episode is just "last time on..." and viewers decide they don't have the time for this shit
That's the glib interpretation but it's more likely NetFlix knew we sucked all along and was acting accordingly than that they trained us only to watch one season.
Our family's policy is that we don't start a Netflix show until it has run its course and is over. We've had too many disappointments watching a show we like, only to have it get abruptly cancelled. There are too many other things to watch that won't pull the rug out from under us.
I'm sure Netflix hates this, but it's their own fault. We are only responding to their irresponsible programming nonsense.
Sure, in the show's universe, switching actors made complete sense. They literally can put their consciousness in another body, it's the entire premise, yes. Anthony Mackie isn't a bad actor whatsoever. I liked him in The Banker, Pain & Gain and some other shit he's done. Yet, to me, the show went to shit as soon as he became Kovacs. Just seemed like a huge tonal shift the show didn't need. And it's been a while, but if I remember correctly, the character felt like a completely different person, not same guy in new body.
Yeah, the only similarity between them was the name of the character. They didn't sound or act similar. It would have been neat if you could recognize the character despite the different appearance.
The first season had flashbacks of his old body, and it felt like it made more sense. The change in accent was a bit offputting, but can be reasonably explained away. Mackie just felt like a completely different character.
My experience with Netflix shows tends to go like this: I hear about a new show from people at work (or maybe here). I watch and enjoy season 1. I never hear about the show again until someone mentions that there sad it was cancelled after additional seasons I never heard about.
Personally, I find it hard to watch things when I don't know they exist.
I can't view the article, so I have a perfectly valid excuse for living my life like a Redditor -- making a comment based on the headline only.
I don't know if I'm one of those netflix viewers who has abandoned shows after one season. I'm not even sure how I could know. Netflix is by far the worst of the major streaming platforms in terms of obscuring their library. Their user experience choices are so heavily focused on making sure everybody's watching the same 20 or 30 movies/shows that they tune literally everything else out. I'm not on Netflix 24/7 and I don't tend to keep up with showbiz news. I know lots of people rotate streaming services. It's very easy to see why folks would not be aware of additional seasons of a show being out.
The other issues that stifle my interest in shows applies to other services as well. The modern era's long-ass gaps between seasons kills the inertia. Sure, I liked the season that came out 2 years ago, but I hardly remember it and I just don't have time to try and go back to catch up. Of course there are recaps, but those by nature leave stuff out. Most likely unless that first season was really damn good, I just won't bother.
Even so, it seems like a lot of these shows peak in their first season, lose the plot in the second, and then by the fourth or fifth season you're essentially watching a headless male mantis clinging to life just long enough to finish the job. So, a lot of times if the first season isn't absolutely stellar, I end up putting the show on my abyss of a watch list, likely never to return.
It’s kind of interesting you say this. When I go on my Netflix account, I see the same 20-30 things. Gets old and I can never find anything I want to watch. When I’m at my friends and open her Netflix, it’s like a completely different service. I see a ton of things that look interesting that I’ve never seen on my own account. It’s quite strange.
Their new UI made it godawful to find anything. It's got to be one of the worst UI updates I've ever seen in a modern service.
You can only see 4 things at once on my large screen TV. Then if you have the audacity to scroll down to see more, you're almost always greeted with one of the same ones in that group of 4. Then they throw games in there to just fuck up your attempt to find anything, and then because you watched one thing 10 years ago, it decides to still show you this category of show you don't like "because you watched xyz show".
I cancelled all my streaming subscriptions when they all started pulling price shenanigans.
Now I either use Stremio, properly "Arrified", or sail the high seas with qbitorrent, which, by the way, has a very good search function not enabled by default, and which many people don't know about. (Google qbitorrent search jackett)
To look for things I usually go to rotten tomatoes.
Also, there are frequent posts here or on other sites where people post their favorite shows/movies, which are often great for discovering less known shows.
Absolutely, all of this. I cancelled Netflix, in part because it had become impossible to navigate, it's a junk box. You could be scrolling for hours looking for something inspiring you to watch it, nothing. Everything they make is bland, basic and sanitised, like what Disney did to family movies, it's torture to watch, so unengaging. (Plus all the evil, and price rises, so it was easy to leave).
No, and he’s not the only one. So much shit can happen in a season of a show and then you get season 2 over a year later when you’ve watched like 10-20 other shows and you can’t remember side characters, side plots, or even finales.
As they said, many times the recaps leave a lot of stuff out that would actually be beneficial to a user. I wish I could recount an example, but I notice it as I watch the recap and sometimes it triggers a memory. I have these discussions with my wife who doesn’t remember what I do about some shows and vice versa.
Edit: I recently experienced this with both Vox Machina and Invincible.
Avatar has been pretty much a let down just like cowboy bebop. I really wanted it to be good, but they did this really strange with changing the characters personalities and corrupting the flow of the story.
One piece has been good so far but I got the impression it might be pulling back on the main character.
Edit just finished episode 2 of season 2 of the live action avatar. That was much better than I expected. My hope has been restored.
Long anime series are treated a bit differently than North American live action productions. One Piece will most likely continue being made as long as there's manga to adapt. (Whether the mangaka will finish the story, drop it abruptly to do something else, or die of old age with it still incomplete is another question.) The only other thing that might kill it is if the studio making it folds, but as far as I know Toei is relatively healthy.
At ~1170 episodes, One Piece isn't even close to being the longest-running anime series airing in Japan today. I don't think it's even in the top five.
Honestly I thought Avatar was a pretty good show. The biggest flaw it has is poor pacing. Trying to tell a full season's story in only 10 episodes is just a bad plan
I wasn't predjudiced because I'd had zero exposure to any of þe original material, books or animated, so I was able to enjoy Cowboy Bebop and was sad it was cancelled.
I read a lot of fans didn't like it, which I completely understand. It's just a good example of how expectations can shape enjoyment. I knew þe name but noþing else about þe story, and þought it was great: great acting, decent FX, interesting story; I was looking forward to seeing where it went.
I haven't tried þe original, but I've never liked most Anime and would probably dislike it because it wasn't more like þe live-action :-)
They had a good run for a few years but id say in the last 5 years or longer...for seasons with several after about S3 they start to get sillier to the point of unbelievable. Id say now it has even started to happen around S2 recently.
Secondly a lot of stuff is very...the samey and TBH boring, if something is good they try to repeat it over and over. Generally now i see the N sighn and i am like nah, its likely to be average.
Netflix's slop has got so bad. I scrolled and scrolled yesterday across the platforms before checking them and realised they are so far down my list I might cancel them. When I did get there they had nothing of interest across the whole of what the oresent on their front page.
I just realised what they have become. Years again when sky/cable existed there would be a channel that just showed average shows, or B movies. It’s the kinda thing your nana would watch. It was just churn churn of tat. It kept you occupied…but not entertained.
I would argue most tv show now only need to be 1 season long but they either pad them out so much it's insufferable OR create needless drama that i do not care about to keep the show going
It's a 50% drop. So 1/2 people watched season 1 and decided season 2 wasn't worth it. So the problem is specifically that they're not good enough stories/episodes.
Often a series wrap up good in a season and I feel done with it. Like last of us and fallout, I just know season 2 will be worse. Then other times season 1 just sucks and I'm not interested in another for that reason.
I don't have netflix but, I sometimes will use my parents or grandparents account if i'm visiting their house.
I never got into netflix series mostly due to what has been said here already. There's no point of investment into a series with a company that has an ongoing reputation of cancelling shows even if they go well, and the ones that do get another season can have multi-year delays between it.
It's the same issue that a lot of the lesser known Anime's have, They get greenlit for 1 or 2 seasons, and by the time they get greenlit for s3 all momentum for people wanting to watch it is dead.
To me I would rather just wait and invest my time into something that is actually going to go somewhere, not get pitfalled into a cliffhanger and then never know what happens.
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ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.world · 153 pts · 39d
Probably because Netflix has a habit of often cancelling shows after a season or two. Why should viewers get invested in a shot if there's a good chance they will be cancelled?
Also, too many Netflix shows are pretty shit these days.
YoureHotCupCake@lemmy.world · 32 pts · 38d
Yup I've decide I won't watch a show that isn't finished at this point. I've fallen in love with too many just to watch them get canceled.
The OA was so good and they fucking canceled it, I'll never subscribe to their service ever again for that.
sychthys@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 38d
Saaame. I got so angry when they canceled it. It broke my trust in them to deliver an end to any shows. Then they kept doing it. Left quite a long time ago and will not go back. There's just nothing worth the money on Neflix.
YoureHotCupCake@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 38d
Yup they just aren't willing to allow a show to take time to establish themselves, many people won't discover a show until its a few seasons in or even finished yet they can't stand it if a show doesn't get lots of views in season one.
Ixoid@aussie.zone · 1 pts · 38d
The unskippable ads. They're worth a lot of money, apparently.
nosuchanon@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 38d
Season 2 was setup to be awesome.
thetrekkersparky@startrek.website · 8 pts · 38d
Its not just Netflix these days. Every new show seems to start their life on the chopping block. If the first season doesn't get enough views in the first few days its out then season two doesn't even get made. If it does do okay then they get to start writing a second season, which means another 2 years before we get a second season and by then we have completely forgotten the show until you read about it getting cancelled 2 weeks after season 2 came out because nobody tuned in.
dustyData@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 37d
The costs have ballooned too much. When seasons were 18 episodes and it costs $100k per episode, it made sense to serialize. Often they were written as they were filmed. Now every episode costs $10 million and preproduction takes a year before the first scene can be filmed with massive post production. No one has really cracked the formula for making TV formats work well on streaming services. The all at once for binge watching only works if you already have a massive archive of shows to expose. The one episode a week for short boutique series that run a season every 3 years is not working well either.
RamRabbit@lemmy.world · 101 pts · 39d
The biggest issue is they take years between seasons. People lose interest.
The first two shows they mention coming out with a season 2 recently had their season 1 release in 2023!
SatyrSack@quokk.au · 32 pts · 38d
I refuse to start watching a show until it's finished. I get to watch the entire series at my own pace (no waiting a week between episodes or years between seasons), I avoid stewing in my opinions and reading public opinion during the hiatus and having that affect my enjoyment of the next season, and I don't have to worry about the abrupt emotional disturbance of a premature cancelation. The only downside is having to avoid spoilers and not being able to join in conversation with others who are actually watching it while it originally airs.
acosmichippo@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 38d
I agree. Other people are referencing how Netflix cancels shows after one season, but that doesn't seem relevant here. We're talking about people who do watch season 1 but not season 2.
edible_funk@sh.itjust.works · 7 pts · 38d
Yeah two years for six episodes and I just don't give a shit anymore.
boonhet@sopuli.xyz · 2 pts · 38d
Only for mediocre shows tbh. It took 3 years for Severance S2 and it was highly awaited still. Now after S2 I'm even more excited for S3 and don't care if they take 2 or 3 years as long as the quality stays there.
But I don't remember when Netflix had something I was so excited for.
Wait, I do actually. The Witcher. Super excited, didn't care that they took 2 years... But then S2 was nowhere near as great as S1 and S3 just took a nosedive.
There's a reason S1 was highly memed and the other seasons not.
DigDoug@lemmy.world · 53 pts · 38d
...I'm not really sure why they care. In 99% of cases, there's only one extra season to watch anyway because Netflix cancelled the fucking show.
Yes, I'm still salty about Santa Clarita Diet, why do you ask?
ChaosSpectre@lemmy.zip · 12 pts · 38d
Kaos for me. Will be pissed about that show being cancelled until I fucking die
OberonSwanson@sh.itjust.works · 7 pts · 38d
Agreed. I would happily fight in a fierce battle with each Netflix executive, akin to Street Fighter II, to make them to pay.
EonNShadow@pawb.social · 4 pts · 38d
Sense8 here
It had such a unique concept and they did a great job at executing it
So what if it was horny that was part of the charmalphabethunter@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 38d
That show was fresh. I still seethe for it being cancelled.
ClydapusGotwald@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 36d
I’m salty about Marco Polo.
givesomefucks@lemmy.world · 53 pts · 39d
Maybe because netflix cancels show a week after season 1 drops?
People got burnt too many times, best case scenario it's a huge hit and in 3 years we get a 8 hour season 2.
Why would viewers get invested?
Technus@lemmy.zip · 47 pts · 39d
Seems like a positive feedback loop:
HuntressHimbo@lemmy.zip · 28 pts · 38d
Don't forget the step in between 4 and 5 where Netflix recalculates the interest in season 2 and drastically changes the scope and pacing, making it more jarring for returning viewers or turning them off before the season drops
Technus@lemmy.zip · 8 pts · 38d
Or what about how the first fifteen minutes of each season 2 episode is just "last time on..." and viewers decide they don't have the time for this shit
adarza@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 37d
i've been stuck on step 4. price hikes chased me away, i haven't been back. i don't even know what's "new" anymore, and i don't care.
i just watch the stuff i have locally, there's more new (to me) stuff on my disks than netflix has ever produced.
CriticalMiss@lemmy.world · 44 pts · 38d
company known for cancelling shows after 1 season is surprised to discover their viewers are dropping shows after 1 season
natecox@programming.dev · 4 pts · 37d
Exactly.
OrgunDonor@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 37d
Netflix viewers: "There is more than 1 season to these shows?"
jerkface@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 36d
That's the glib interpretation but it's more likely NetFlix knew we sucked all along and was acting accordingly than that they trained us only to watch one season.
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 39 pts · 38d
Our family's policy is that we don't start a Netflix show until it has run its course and is over. We've had too many disappointments watching a show we like, only to have it get abruptly cancelled. There are too many other things to watch that won't pull the rug out from under us.
I'm sure Netflix hates this, but it's their own fault. We are only responding to their irresponsible programming nonsense.
bagsy@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 38d
Netflix vs Google, who can cancle the most stuff I like?
digitalFatteh@lemmy.ca · 32 pts · 38d
Netflix couldn’t even finish Altered Carbon respectfully. Got a season 2 and some poor anime to finish it off.
Can’t trust em with any series really.
boonhet@sopuli.xyz · 8 pts · 38d
Did we get a season 2?
Sure, in the show's universe, switching actors made complete sense. They literally can put their consciousness in another body, it's the entire premise, yes. Anthony Mackie isn't a bad actor whatsoever. I liked him in The Banker, Pain & Gain and some other shit he's done. Yet, to me, the show went to shit as soon as he became Kovacs. Just seemed like a huge tonal shift the show didn't need. And it's been a while, but if I remember correctly, the character felt like a completely different person, not same guy in new body.
scutiger@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 38d
Yeah, the only similarity between them was the name of the character. They didn't sound or act similar. It would have been neat if you could recognize the character despite the different appearance.
The first season had flashbacks of his old body, and it felt like it made more sense. The change in accent was a bit offputting, but can be reasonably explained away. Mackie just felt like a completely different character.
kinther@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 38d
Yeah they got the Firefly experience there
Rentlar@lemmy.ca · 28 pts · 38d
Why should viewers be interested, when Netflix treats its shows like draft ideas that more often than not get scrapped after one season?
mycodesucks@lemmy.world · 25 pts · 38d
Netflix started it.
OldChicoAle@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 38d
A whole story in 3 words.
AdolfSchmitler@lemmy.world · 22 pts · 38d
Bring back Kaos then you fucks
THB@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 38d
Kaos was so good
gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works · 8 pts · 38d
Jeff Goldblum as Zeus was absolute cinema
Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de · 20 pts · 38d
My experience with Netflix shows tends to go like this: I hear about a new show from people at work (or maybe here). I watch and enjoy season 1. I never hear about the show again until someone mentions that there sad it was cancelled after additional seasons I never heard about.
Personally, I find it hard to watch things when I don't know they exist.
InvalidName2@lemmy.zip · 11 pts · 38d
I can't view the article, so I have a perfectly valid excuse for living my life like a Redditor -- making a comment based on the headline only.
I don't know if I'm one of those netflix viewers who has abandoned shows after one season. I'm not even sure how I could know. Netflix is by far the worst of the major streaming platforms in terms of obscuring their library. Their user experience choices are so heavily focused on making sure everybody's watching the same 20 or 30 movies/shows that they tune literally everything else out. I'm not on Netflix 24/7 and I don't tend to keep up with showbiz news. I know lots of people rotate streaming services. It's very easy to see why folks would not be aware of additional seasons of a show being out.
The other issues that stifle my interest in shows applies to other services as well. The modern era's long-ass gaps between seasons kills the inertia. Sure, I liked the season that came out 2 years ago, but I hardly remember it and I just don't have time to try and go back to catch up. Of course there are recaps, but those by nature leave stuff out. Most likely unless that first season was really damn good, I just won't bother.
Even so, it seems like a lot of these shows peak in their first season, lose the plot in the second, and then by the fourth or fifth season you're essentially watching a headless male mantis clinging to life just long enough to finish the job. So, a lot of times if the first season isn't absolutely stellar, I end up putting the show on my abyss of a watch list, likely never to return.
dogdeanafternoon@lemmy.ca · 12 pts · 38d
It’s kind of interesting you say this. When I go on my Netflix account, I see the same 20-30 things. Gets old and I can never find anything I want to watch. When I’m at my friends and open her Netflix, it’s like a completely different service. I see a ton of things that look interesting that I’ve never seen on my own account. It’s quite strange.
NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 38d
Their new UI made it godawful to find anything. It's got to be one of the worst UI updates I've ever seen in a modern service.
You can only see 4 things at once on my large screen TV. Then if you have the audacity to scroll down to see more, you're almost always greeted with one of the same ones in that group of 4. Then they throw games in there to just fuck up your attempt to find anything, and then because you watched one thing 10 years ago, it decides to still show you this category of show you don't like "because you watched xyz show".
I hate it so much.
elucubra@sopuli.xyz · 3 pts · 38d
I cancelled all my streaming subscriptions when they all started pulling price shenanigans.
Now I either use Stremio, properly "Arrified", or sail the high seas with qbitorrent, which, by the way, has a very good search function not enabled by default, and which many people don't know about. (Google qbitorrent search jackett)
To look for things I usually go to rotten tomatoes.
Also, there are frequent posts here or on other sites where people post their favorite shows/movies, which are often great for discovering less known shows.
LavaPlanet@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 38d
Absolutely, all of this. I cancelled Netflix, in part because it had become impossible to navigate, it's a junk box. You could be scrolling for hours looking for something inspiring you to watch it, nothing. Everything they make is bland, basic and sanitised, like what Disney did to family movies, it's torture to watch, so unengaging. (Plus all the evil, and price rises, so it was easy to leave).
Taleya@aussie.zone · 1 pts · 38d
Goddamn. Down here they've got SG:1 and Community and a whole bunch of international content on top of their drek.
I reckon it's the corporate licensing deals
Kolanaki@pawb.social · 1 pts · 38d
You can't remember what you watched?
WindyRebel@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 38d
No, and he’s not the only one. So much shit can happen in a season of a show and then you get season 2 over a year later when you’ve watched like 10-20 other shows and you can’t remember side characters, side plots, or even finales.
As they said, many times the recaps leave a lot of stuff out that would actually be beneficial to a user. I wish I could recount an example, but I notice it as I watch the recap and sometimes it triggers a memory. I have these discussions with my wife who doesn’t remember what I do about some shows and vice versa.
Edit: I recently experienced this with both Vox Machina and Invincible.
realitista@lemmus.org · 11 pts · 38d
That's usually all they make
db2@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 38d
It's a two step process I think:
1, find a show you like on Netflix
2, head to the high seas where the commercials don't exist
eleijeep@piefed.social · 10 pts · 38d
Netflix, where the medium of storytelling goes to die.
lemmyng@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 38d
Second-screen content intensifies
lemmyng@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 38d
Shows are lucky to last even one season on Netfucks, let alone two. Inside Job should NOT have been cancelled.
Foreigner@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 38d
Netflix killed Inside Job but made 8 seasons of Big Mouth. They deserve what they're getting.
Toes@ani.social · 8 pts · 38d
Avatar has been pretty much a let down just like cowboy bebop. I really wanted it to be good, but they did this really strange with changing the characters personalities and corrupting the flow of the story.
One piece has been good so far but I got the impression it might be pulling back on the main character.
Edit just finished episode 2 of season 2 of the live action avatar. That was much better than I expected. My hope has been restored.
SharkAttak@kbin.melroy.org · 4 pts · 38d
The problem with One Piece is that it's huge, its so effing long that it's guaranteed to get ended at some point, it depends on how cleanly.
nyan@lemmy.cafe · 1 pts · 38d
Long anime series are treated a bit differently than North American live action productions. One Piece will most likely continue being made as long as there's manga to adapt. (Whether the mangaka will finish the story, drop it abruptly to do something else, or die of old age with it still incomplete is another question.) The only other thing that might kill it is if the studio making it folds, but as far as I know Toei is relatively healthy.
At ~1170 episodes, One Piece isn't even close to being the longest-running anime series airing in Japan today. I don't think it's even in the top five.
SharkAttak@kbin.melroy.org · 1 pts · 35d
I agree but I meant the Netflix One Piece live action, I find it very unlikely for them to do the whole series.
aaaa@piefed.world · 1 pts · 38d
Honestly I thought Avatar was a pretty good show. The biggest flaw it has is poor pacing. Trying to tell a full season's story in only 10 episodes is just a bad plan
Toes@ani.social · 2 pts · 38d
Yeah that must be a big part of how im feeling about it. The first episode of s2 put me to sleep. I wanna go back and finish it.
Sxan@piefed.zip · -2 pts · 38d
I wasn't predjudiced because I'd had zero exposure to any of þe original material, books or animated, so I was able to enjoy Cowboy Bebop and was sad it was cancelled.
Toes@ani.social · 1 pts · 38d
That's fair, I probably am being too harsh on it. I did want to see season 2 of it before I wrote it off entirely.
Sxan@piefed.zip · -1 pts · 38d
I read a lot of fans didn't like it, which I completely understand. It's just a good example of how expectations can shape enjoyment. I knew þe name but noþing else about þe story, and þought it was great: great acting, decent FX, interesting story; I was looking forward to seeing where it went.
I haven't tried þe original, but I've never liked most Anime and would probably dislike it because it wasn't more like þe live-action :-)
Cherry@piefed.social · 8 pts · 38d
They had a good run for a few years but id say in the last 5 years or longer...for seasons with several after about S3 they start to get sillier to the point of unbelievable. Id say now it has even started to happen around S2 recently.
Secondly a lot of stuff is very...the samey and TBH boring, if something is good they try to repeat it over and over. Generally now i see the N sighn and i am like nah, its likely to be average.
Squizzy@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 38d
Netflix's slop has got so bad. I scrolled and scrolled yesterday across the platforms before checking them and realised they are so far down my list I might cancel them. When I did get there they had nothing of interest across the whole of what the oresent on their front page.
Cherry@piefed.social · 3 pts · 38d
I just realised what they have become. Years again when sky/cable existed there would be a channel that just showed average shows, or B movies. It’s the kinda thing your nana would watch. It was just churn churn of tat. It kept you occupied…but not entertained.
ramsgrl909@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 38d
I would argue most tv show now only need to be 1 season long but they either pad them out so much it's insufferable OR create needless drama that i do not care about to keep the show going
NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 38d
The time between seasons is sometimes way too long, people move on eventually.
WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 37d
they are so proud of their personalized recommendations. why don't they just push the new season to viewers of the last when it becomes available
luthis@lemmy.nz · 6 pts · 38d
Also, they get new customers by advertising the hottest new show, not the seventh seasonest show.
leaky_shower_thought@feddit.nl · 6 pts · 39d
i think that is normal? a season is supposed to be a good enough set of stories/episodes.
is there supposed to be more to expect?
Canconda@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 38d
It's a 50% drop. So 1/2 people watched season 1 and decided season 2 wasn't worth it. So the problem is specifically that they're not good enough stories/episodes.
leaky_shower_thought@feddit.nl · 1 pts · 38d
yeah. i think that was the "normal" part of it. this always happens unless the original plot is long enough to get to another season
MirrorGiraffe@piefed.social · 2 pts · 38d
Often a series wrap up good in a season and I feel done with it. Like last of us and fallout, I just know season 2 will be worse. Then other times season 1 just sucks and I'm not interested in another for that reason.
psx_crab@lemmy.zip · 6 pts · 38d
Make a good second season then?
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 6 pts · 38d
Most story lines need to end in a single season.
anon_8675309@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 38d
I would love for more one and done seasons. Wrap it all up. What’s annoying to me is you get 3 seasons into something and they run out of ideas.
jj4211@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 38d
Worse, they run out of ideas after two seasons but keep going.
SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de · 2 pts · 38d
Or even worse, make one or two seasons and cancel on a cliffhanger
MrKoyun@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 36d
Season 1, 8 Episodes of "mid quality but has potential and I'm invested". After this, there are 3 possibilities:
Pika@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 38d
I don't have netflix but, I sometimes will use my parents or grandparents account if i'm visiting their house.
I never got into netflix series mostly due to what has been said here already. There's no point of investment into a series with a company that has an ongoing reputation of cancelling shows even if they go well, and the ones that do get another season can have multi-year delays between it.
It's the same issue that a lot of the lesser known Anime's have, They get greenlit for 1 or 2 seasons, and by the time they get greenlit for s3 all momentum for people wanting to watch it is dead.
To me I would rather just wait and invest my time into something that is actually going to go somewhere, not get pitfalled into a cliffhanger and then never know what happens.