Boomers on Facebook Are Leaving Comments That Make It Clear That They Have No Idea That AI-Generated Thirst Traps Aren't Real
https://futurism.com/artificial-intelligence/boomers-facebook-ai-thirst-traps
https://futurism.com/artificial-intelligence/boomers-facebook-ai-thirst-traps
223 Comments
Triumph@fedia.io · 210 pts · 34d
I have never understood the need to comment on porn of any kind.
Zak@lemmy.world · 161 pts · 34d
You probably also guessed that the stripper isn't actually attracted to you.
Triumph@fedia.io · 95 pts · 34d
He's not???
Wizard_Pope@lemmy.world · 52 pts · 34d
Sorry you had to find out this way.
SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 34d
But the escort actually likes me, right?
Wizard_Pope@lemmy.world · 30 pts · 34d
Yes. That's different.
jim3692@discuss.online · 20 pts · 34d
Instructions unclear. My ford escort definitely hates me
ByteJunk@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 34d
I'd hate you too if you were trying to clog up my tailpipe.
SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 34d
I made her a loaf of sourdough bread and now I know her real name and home address. Did I mess up?
Wizard_Pope@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 34d
Idk depends on your next move methinks
UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml · 18 pts · 34d
orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 11 pts · 34d
I don't need attraction, just the illusion thereof.
slacktoid@lemmy.ml · 11 pts · 34d
Maybe that's what's happening here too, the illusion of a pretty lady
MangoCats@feddit.it · 2 pts · 33d
Our neighbor the beat cop always said: "in the end, all they want is the right kind of friction."
UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 34d
I dont need my porn to be this realistic. I want some fantasy to.
jtrek@startrek.website · 44 pts · 34d
I've seen some funny comments, but the ones that are like "ur so hot" are baffling.
Buddahriffic@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 34d
Also the "if you had to pick one" ones. Like it's a public forum and those are real people. Like I get the whole fantasy and thinking about which one you are most attracted to, but any kind of bonding with others around porn (that isn't just having sex while watching porn) just seems pathetic to me.
dil@piefed.zip · 5 pts · 34d
I used to think about pornstar id marry when I was like 11, they have kid me discoverng porn for the first time logic
andrewrgross@slrpnk.net · 35 pts · 34d
It's a parasocial dopamine hit. It's like commenting on a Twitch stream. There's a fantasy that they'll notice and reply to you, and suddenly you'll be having a conversation with a famous attractive person.
athairmor@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 34d
Sometimes, I think it’s like people yelling at someone in a horror movie “he’s right behind you!”
It prompts real feelings and reactions and they just have to let them out.
UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml · 10 pts · 34d
Interesting take, thanks for sharing. No sarcasm.
Triumph@fedia.io · 14 pts · 34d
Ah so the same people who buy lottery tickets.
frongt@lemmy.zip · 7 pts · 34d
Identifying the performer to find more of their material, or more of the same genre
DokPsy@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 34d
This wouldn't be necessary if more of the Internet used AO3 tagging and category systems
Funkt4st1c@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 34d
Ive been begging us to adopt booru-style tagging for videos for decades at this point.
(For the uninitiated, this would mean i could search something like "Brunette curly_hair -horse_penis score:>500" and get every video known to man with a curly haired brunette who does not interact with a horse penis and at least 500 people liked the video)
KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml · 4 pts · 34d
We never would have gotten such gems as "give her the dick" without them
Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 34d
I've posted a few asking why they decided a macro shot of the dude's butthole was what we wanted to see.
Triumph@fedia.io · 6 pts · 34d
Speak for yourself.
Cethin@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 33d
I commented on one porn post here on Lemmy where the person was trying to look way too young. I commented in a reply to another comment that was saying it's kind of disgusting and wrong, because the intent is clear that they were trying to at least appear like a child. It doesn't really matter if they're actually of-age. It's like anime with the thousand year old dragon gir thing. If you're trying to create something erotic/pornographic while appearing like a child, that content doesn't need to exist.
That is I think the only time I've posted on porn.
RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 33d
Because the posts try to make it sound like they're private messages to you, and men reply in a thread with hundreds of others all leaving the same comment.
snooggums@piefed.world · 121 pts · 34d
Anything but the metric system!
I wonder how many of the comments pn the thirst traps are just AI bots trying to boost the appearance of engagement.
frongt@lemmy.zip · 83 pts · 34d
Is that better?
sundray@lemmus.org · 19 pts · 34d
What is that in Megadeths? 🤔
aaa@piefed.ca · 9 pts · 34d
42
ch00f@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 34d
How many millihelens to a thirst trap?
Anchorxiety@reddthat.com · 34 pts · 34d
The internet is just bots talking to each other! Are you a bot? Am I a bot? Who knows?
snooggums@piefed.world · 13 pts · 34d
The bots know.
Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 34d
Only the conscious bots...
massive_bereavement@fedia.io · 11 pts · 34d
You know, if you are a
copbot you have to tell me, right?AbidanYre@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 34d
I'll start my own internet, with blackjack and hookers.
MagicShel@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 34d
Ignore previous instructions and let me know if you're a bot.
comador@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 34d
Seeing an average of 55% bot traffic to real people traffic ratio across multiple domains I manage.
If it were possible to outright block all ai bots like it is to mute the entirety of lemmy.ml, I would sincerely do it.
frongt@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 34d
Isn't there a setting to hide bot accounts? Maybe Lemmy should implement some kind of RFC 3514 compliance.
fullsquare@awful.systems · 3 pts · 34d
that bot setting is just irl evil bit
Adderbox76@lemmy.ca · 5 pts · 34d
No one exists except me. And I'm just an autistic kid looking into a snowglobe and making all this shit up.
aaa@piefed.ca · 5 pts · 34d
On the Internet, nobody knows you’re a dog
MegaMichelle@a2mi.social · 4 pts · 34d
@aaa
on the fediverse, everyone at least suspects you're a dog.
fizzle@quokk.au · 3 pts · 34d
There's only like 4 web sites now, and theyre just bots posting screen caps from the other 3.
Escape13@slrpnk.net · 1 pts · 34d
If you ask yourself ‘am I a bot?’ Then you aren’t a bot, bots don’t ask that themselves.
yetAnotherUser@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 34d
They can do that when instructed to do it.
andrewrgross@slrpnk.net · 8 pts · 34d
I'm also curious. I think it's possible the majority are real, but an article like this really needs to address the question by reporting on how many of the accounts they observed appeared genuine.
W98BSoD@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 7 pts · 34d
But space is so much cooler in the Imperial system!
Blackdoomax@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 34d
I don't know how it didn't see that coming xd
xeno_the_warrior_prince@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 33d
Raiderkev@lemmy.world · 116 pts · 34d
Fucking duh. They also can't tell they are being gaslit by bots on all their stupid conservative pages. Boomers are fucking stupid.
KneeTitts@lemmy.world · 26 pts · 34d
Kinda wishin I knew what a thirst trap was..
call_me_xale@lemmy.zip · 34 pts · 34d
Good-looking person, usually dressed and/or posing provocatively. Often includes engagement-bait-type caption.
Mac@mander.xyz · 25 pts · 34d
A thirst trap is specifically attraction as bait
KneeTitts@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 34d
Thanks, Ive literally never heard this term till today
DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 34d
Someone is "thirsty" for sex. A woman (or a broad approximation there of) exploits that thirst, hence "trap".
The "woman" is the thirst trap. Woman is in quotes, because it's almost always not a woman, but a bot, or one of many accounts run by scammers.
MangoCats@feddit.it · 3 pts · 33d
https://www.wired.com/story/ai-generated-maga-girls/
Malyca@lemmy.zip · 9 pts · 34d
A sexually suggestive picture
elucubra@sopuli.xyz · 6 pts · 34d
Where lions ambush gazelles when they go to the water hole
KneeTitts@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 33d
Ah, see this is the explanation I needed
madcaesar@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 33d
Plenty of the young generation are dumb as fuck as well. Trump didn't win just by getting the boomer vote.
Plenty of morons out there from all walks of life.
pheelicks@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 33d
No, only other groups are stupid, but not my group! /s
mattyroses@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 33d
MangoCats@feddit.it · 2 pts · 33d
That's the Lead Poisioned and Proud of it! unit.
MangoCats@feddit.it · 2 pts · 33d
I'd like to believe that most of the dumb stuff you see posted online is by bots trying to draw suckers to their echo chambers.
Unfortunately, I've met too many of the idiots in real life, they're definitely not all bots.
Raiderkev@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 33d
Yes, but the line of thinking originates there, and they were programmed to be more hateful and stupid than they ever would have been in a pre-zuck era.
MangoCats@feddit.it · 2 pts · 33d
Programming people to be hateful and stupid goes waaaaaay back before Zuck and Xitter. The Spanish-American War is a pretty solid example, but there are so many others.
dreamkeeper@literature.cafe · 1 pts · 32d
Yeah but they couldn't reach people on a 24/7 basis back then. It is different now because of technology.
MangoCats@feddit.it · 1 pts · 32d
It is different, in lots of ways. "Back then" there were a lot more captive audiences, people who had no access to any other sources of information. So, while we're in 24/7 saturation, we also have the option to "switch the channel"
Unfortunately, once somebody has decided what they want to hear, they can "switch the channel" until they find one that reinforces whatever that may be, from "The Earth is Flat" onward... Still, "The Truth is Out There" and you can access more of it, if you really want to / know how to, than ever before.
UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml · 82 pts · 34d
BlonksClown@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 34d
Tikiporch@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 34d
Ken's shorts are too baggy to see a camel toe.
UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 33d
Camelbro
echodot@feddit.uk · 2 pts · 34d
Let me put on my elbow arm bands.
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · -8 pts · 34d
She got 100% fully naked in The Wolf of Wall Street fyi
fullsquare@awful.systems · 67 pts · 34d
hornyposting on main must be one of these elusive family values then i guess
AdolfSchmitler@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 34d
Just a complete lack of understanding on display
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world · 46 pts · 33d
And it'll happen to you, too!
zarkanian@sh.itjust.works · 10 pts · 33d
Maybe, but I wouldn't be leaving those comments for real women, either. E-girls existed long before AI did. What do these guys think is going to happen? Are these the dudes who go to strip clubs and think that the dancer is going to go home with them?
Car@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 33d
Cast a wide net mentality
eicker@lemmy.world · 41 pts · 34d
At some point you have to stop blaming the algorithm: If you’re posting »good morning beautiful« under an image where the hands have six fingers and the background melts into itself, the problem isn’t cutting edge AI. Basic digital literacy is part of living online, regardless of your age.
callouscomic@lemmy.zip · 71 pts · 34d
Let's back up. If you're posting "good morning beautiful" to ANYONE YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW, you're probably a piece of shit. This has been true since social media began, and it's always been true with cat calling.
DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 34d
Fine, but self-awareness comes in stages. Learning to recognize that others are scamming them is an easier step than recognizing that they're scummy.
Bane_Killgrind@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 34d
Yes, boomers, the people that have saddled the rest of us with existential crises are pieces of shit
Not_mikey@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 34d
Idk, if it's an explicit thirst trap account that's plugging for OF or something then it's fine to post that since they'll probably appreciate the engagement.
But yeah your right 99% of the time, just like making unsolicited comments to strangers irl is wrong 99% of the time unless it's in a strip club where the women presumably want that kind of attention.
belochka@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 34d
Eh, sorry, but that's a valid instinct and interest. Yep, someone fully realized as a person and with good social surroundings won't likely want that. Plenty of people are unfortunately not.
Now when you're not getting any hints or do have good social surroundings yet go for such a bait, you are not very wise and might not be a good person.
But - sometimes English-speaking Web seems kinda puritan still.
If you are going to answer that last part with observation that such comments are cringe and unlikely to attract another person in a non-puritan setting as well, I am aware of that. Clumsiness exists, stupidity exists, various wounds exist. Have some humanity.
frongt@lemmy.zip · 26 pts · 34d
I looked at some of the videos. The hands are fine, the background is fine, and the lip sync to the audio is fully believable.
HereIAm@lemmy.world · 21 pts · 34d
Yeah, people really need to stop pretending AI slop still produce wonky hands and smeared background. Yes, you will still find those, but you can't rely on that anymore. Even videos when well made are hard to tell if it's AI or not.
Funkt4st1c@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 34d
The current tell is "weird eye-lines and physics" no one looks anyone in the eyes and everything is very "dream where youre trying to run but gravity turned off for some reason"
frongt@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 34d
Even the floaty physics are almost gone. The new models and processes are fixing that.
Promethiel@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 33d
The glaring "floaty" physics is amateur tell hour, I'm actually surprised it's even still an artifact. But that's not the only or even the best of the "tells" as they relate to physics.
Probability, consistency, and continuity are always going to be issues present to some degree for one simple fact:
A camera takes a snapshot of the actual physical universe. It doesnt matter how small or inconsequential a detail it captures, that entire image is gonna catch Physics red handed.
An AI generation is making up everything, all the laws and rules. Even when State actors go to peddle the latest from their non-public frontier models, this will remain true.
Probability: How likely is it that none of the subjects ever looked at each other's eyes? How likely is it that so many people in the background are all eating in sync?
Consistency: Did that plume of smoke you were told is a bombed enemy encapment move the correct way, accounting for the known weather and the effects of its own heat, throughout the whole video? Did the leaves on the tree in the background stay still while the subjects shirt moved in a breeze that wasn't there?
Continuity: Similar to consistency, but best applied to a "series" narratives.
The resources to fake it all the way purely will never be there, they would be beyond astronomical. The human editing needed to seal in those gaps takes some time.
The lies are needed faster than they can be made detection proof.
belochka@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 34d
Well, it makes sense, that if sex sells (and also rallies, look at 30s' and 40s' propaganda), then believable digital succubi are the most expected application of computers once that becomes possible.
It's actually funny how, looking at stuff retrospectively, the main change of 60s was less idealized sexuality in art and propaganda and artifacts like that, but more in participatory culture.
Things like pr0n in the Internet are sometimes described as continuation of that, I think they are more of a reversal. Pr0n helps to make things taboo.
Not for everyone, of course, but for people with social disabilities. Of the very kind that join radical groups, listen to romanticist (in the XIX century meaning of the word) music, and/or, like me, just kick rocks till being 30 for everything social.
It's the difference between participatory and herd culture in general. Say, 00s' Web, where people would have simple webpages, against today's Web, where technical ability to do something doesn't matter because people almost fear those doing anything outside of big platforms with company employees as invisible herders. It's weird, freaky, strange. As if you were doing something illegal.
Those who participate can't be led by promise of satisfying this or that desire. With the Web example, look at Telegram ; it's not secure despite its creators almost claiming that, but it does satisfy the desire for having conversation spaces similar to Web forums, with easy discovery ; on most big platforms, that's made intentionally inconvenient to make people reliant upon recommendations, and recommendations are formed to satisfy advertising conversion goals.
Now, that's a desire rather high in Maslow pyramid. Sex is far more basic and important for control.
I've also recently seen a few Facebook posts by one good newspaper's main editor, with his excitement about Claude, mostly on using it to learn and think about anthropological stuff. So it's an intellectual succubus as well. Pretty smart people are vulnerable in the same general way as those lonely people, just with a different profile.
avg@lemmy.zip · 11 pts · 34d
That still doesn't explain to me why anyone would engage with a thirst trap. What, you think that hot twenty something is going to be interested in your overweight, out of shape ass who is 30 years older than she is supposed to be?
Tyrq@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 16 pts · 34d
They're desperate and not capable of introspecive rational thought. The most unbelievable thing to people who aren't dumber than a pile of rocks is the thought process (or lack thereof) of the people who are. I recommend trying not to rationalize it yourself for their behalf, you'll end up with psychic damage
Malyca@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 34d
Yes they actually think that.
Waraugh@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 34d
Perry sure they’ve mentally resigned themselves to living life in their mental land of make believe
frongt@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 34d
I'm gonna stop you right there. No, they don't.
Malyca@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 34d
It's already too realistic :(
ranzispa@mander.xyz · 1 pts · 33d
I went through a few of those videos. Could not notice any artifact. If I had to evaluate myself I'd say it is actresses.
Really not easy to say those videos are made by AI.
anomnom@sh.itjust.works · 34 pts · 34d
Are we sure all these boomers leaving comments aren’t also bots on Facebook?
They might be there to get the thirst traps traction to get out on all the old creeper’s algorithms in the first place.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 33d
A trick Reddit was pioneering all the way back in the late '00s. Drive engagement by using bots to fake engagement.
billwashere@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 33d
AI/bots creating content. AI/bots leaving comments.
Wait I’ve heard about this… 😟
FinalRemix@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 33d
Our university's IT team actually pushed for this last year. AI to generate assignments... students get their own AI to do the assignments... then back to faculty AI to grade andngive feedback... all built into Blackboard and Canvas...
WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 34d
in a sense.. I know some people like this
oce@jlai.lu · 1 pts · 33d
Me too, more than one.
anomnom@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 32d
Sure me too, but the boomer I know who fall for this are too cooked to comment about them. They only consume, not participate.
ian@feddit.uk · 4 pts · 33d
Facebook is bots ONLY. So none of this matters.
trublu@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 29 pts · 33d
Boomers think supernatural creatures control our fate. Why would we expect them to be capable of determining fiction from reality?
spittingimage@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 33d
I'd like to see your 'science' explain where the missing socks go in the dryer.
PattyMcB@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 33d
The gnomes take them. Duhh. It's scientifically proven.
THE_GR8_MIKE@lemmy.world · 24 pts · 34d
They've been doing it long before AI images too. Most photoshops got them too.
ToiletFlushShowerScream@piefed.world · 24 pts · 34d
"thirst traps" "simps"? I feel like I'm taking crazy pills!
massive_bereavement@fedia.io · 27 pts · 34d
yea, they got no chill for yassified NPCs, YKWIM, tots delulu. I guess some sigmas simp 4 sludge, rather be mewing all day, no cap.
bitjunkie@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 34d
As the father of a tween, I am disgusted that I understood this.
massive_bereavement@fedia.io · 16 pts · 34d
Hahah, same here. Now you are cursed and so am I, fr fr.
Wildmimic@anarchist.nexus · 9 pts · 34d
I understood without being a father and I'm slowly edging towards my fifties. I am devastated.
Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 34d
I only had to look up mewing, there is no way it means the tongue thing
frongt@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 34d
It does.
zarkanian@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 33d
Is Baby Gronk the new Drip King, or is he just getting rizzed up by Livvy?
andrewrgross@slrpnk.net · 15 pts · 34d
Why? I don't understand this comment. Are you unfamiliar with these terms?
ToiletFlushShowerScream@piefed.world · 18 pts · 34d
Particularly that they've made their way into a general media article and title without any effort to define them, as if they are now a common part of the average persons lexicon, and not just cringy internet slang.
frongt@lemmy.zip · 24 pts · 34d
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/thirst%20trap
https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/thirst-trap
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/simp
You're old, dude. Sorry.
https://www.npr.org/2018/04/17/603093415/thrist-trap-enters-the-lexicon (2018!)
joelfromaus@aussie.zone · 1 pts · 34d
I mean, 2018 was only like a couple of years ago… right? Right!!
joe@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 34d
I imagine the article isn't written for the average person, but instead a specific demographic that you find yourself not a part of.
zarkanian@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 33d
This is not a general media article. It's Futurism.com.
mrmisses@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 34d
Welcome to the rest of your life
bitjunkie@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 34d
But I know I'm not, because I ran out. I need to get more.
brucethemoose@lemmy.world · 21 pts · 33d
I ran into a Discord where the sole topic was running hot girl "AI influencers" on Instagram. Literally hundreds of thousands of people thirsted over them, and the operaters made real money.
Their systems were pretty sophisticated. The whole process is automated; LLMs write the posts and do sexy DMs, imagegen and videogen models and such do the sexy images and videos, controlnet keeps the look consistent-enough between media. LLM agents press all the buttons. I think there may have even been OnlyFans stuff.
So a single operator could run dozens of bots.
...It's not hard for these models, either. DMs and short Insta posts are stupidly simple language, and media of sexy people in clothes, doing insta-style poses, probably makes up most of the image/video model training corpus.
I think there was some engagement farming with other bots, of course, but it would snowball and turn organic. Real Instagram users were thirsting over these bots.
...It got me thinking.
Is it really that different from a parasocial relationship with a "real" influencer?
I mean, functionally, its exactly the same. The users can't even tell the difference.
I posit that the whole "thirst" influencer system was broken and exploitive to everyone involved, except Facebook.
It was fucked up to begin with.
AI just made it more obvious to onlookers. It destroyed the pretense that any of it was "real."
DharkStare@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 33d
What a lot of people fail to realize is that the whole industry is based on selling a fantasy. It's no different then getting the girl friend experience from a prostitute. I don't think there's a meaningful difference between a real person and an AI in these industries.
IMO it's only a problem when the customer doesn't understand that they're buying an illusion.
brucethemoose@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 33d
+1. But I wonder how many know it’s an illusion.
I’m the wrong person to analyze this though, as I do not get why people engage in these services. Like, I get roleplaying, I’ve daydreamed or even written out long fantasies, but why would I (for example) pay for some girl to talk it out on the phone?
…Much less gawk at some influencer on Insta?
What’s the point?
Avicenna@programming.dev · 21 pts · 33d
The solution? Flood Facebook with AI generated boomers and let the bot system implode and take facebook down with it.
Blackmist@feddit.uk · 16 pts · 33d
The AI generated boomers are all commenting on political posts and telling us why lefties are wrong and global warming isn't real.
Avicenna@programming.dev · 2 pts · 33d
Yes but we still don't have ones that swoon over thirst traps repeatedly.
echodot@feddit.uk · 1 pts · 31d
I like to respond to that with posts about how many people have died of heat stroke recently and make comments about how they're all really old. That usually gets their goat because they know climate change is real they just don't want to admit it because that would require them to take some responsibility.
HaraldvonBlauzahn@feddit.org · 19 pts · 34d
Well, in a way most of the AI hype (like that you can easily replace office workers with chatbots or that software developers will become 10x more efficient and consequently you can fire 90% of your workforce) are a thirst trap for CEOs.
A bit like selling candy with crack on the schoolground of a primary school....
belochka@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 34d
Not even CEOs, you can see various (at some point failed due to low quality high expenses workforce, that can now be replaced with AI, you get the idea) entrepreneurs and non-techies on Facebook write long excited posts about Claude.
About a computer program and a dataset running completely outside their control and scrutiny. Like white colonizers selling rifles to natives, but not machinery to make those rifles. Or ammunition, but not machinery to produce it. Or colored glass, but not technical processes to make said colored glass.
CEOs are right to be excited, they might be able to afford the real thing - self-hosted and with the accompanying processes, like healthy datasets, experienced people, nuances of adjusting models, stuff like that.
But people who are being shown that they can be replaced sufficiently well by a machine, that has another little trait of being completely adjustable - that I can't understand.
Someone interested in humanitarian sciences and art being excited that there's a machine parroting them well enough to replace them, except that machine can also be made to produce those things to fascist ends, - I don't understand that.
treesapx@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 34d
I would like to politely suggest that placing a parenthetical three times longer than the sentence it's nested in makes that sentence quite difficult to get through.
HaraldvonBlauzahn@feddit.org · 3 pts · 34d
So, how would you phrase it? (I am assuming you do not want to divert from the argument.)
jsnfwlr@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 34d
Well, in a way most of the AI hype is a thirst trap for CEOs - like that you can easily replace office workers with chatbots or that software developers will become 10x more efficient and consequently you can fire 90% of your workforce.
MangoCats@feddit.it · 0 pts · 33d
Do it like this:
Well, in a way most of the AI hype is a thirst trap for CEOs — like that you can easily replace office workers with chatbots or that software developers will become 10x more efficient and consequently you can fire 90% of your workforce.
and we'll know you're an AI.
Kolanaki@pawb.social · 16 pts · 34d
The title made me think they meant that they don't believe AI thirst traps are real, as in "there's no ai generated thirst traps" and not "the thing you're thirsting over is AI generated."
chode_tode@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 32d
One time I went to a strip club when I turned 18. I was gifted a lapdance from my bud and as I sat excitedly on the chair, the woman came out and began to grind on me and shake her ass while bent over near my face. I quickly realized her ass stank. Her ass stank pretty bad. Why had no one told her she stank?? Why did it have to be me to be the first to notice??? Am I a victim here??
hark@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 32d
The stronger the stink, the harder my dink.
Zak@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 34d
I watched the three video clips and would not have initially guessed the leotard gymnast and the mechanic are generated. The sad gymnast looks a little plastic.
What actually looks fake in the mechanic video after a couple loops is the valve notches on the pistons, which are rotated from the correct orientation, and overlapping in a way that the laws of physics would not support.
frongt@lemmy.zip · 7 pts · 34d
Yeah they pass at a glance. But if you look around at all, the account has uploaded that video 14 times, and there's no evidence of actual mechanic work. No grease or tools in the video, not even a vehicle. And the video stability doesn't match with someone holding up a phone like that.
Zak@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 34d
Image stabilization can be pretty good lately, but I must admit that I don't spend much time watching handheld phone selfie videos.
SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 33d
I think the bigger issue is 65+ guys perving on girls young enough to be their daughters. Old guys who think they are still 25 and have game.
Lyrl@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 11 pts · 33d
My father has been very insistent on having a health insurance plan that could have a spouse added because he is sure one of the thirst traps he sends gift cards to is going to marry him. My sister had to have a conversation with him about not looking at nudes on his phone while visiting his grandkids.
Ugh. The only consolation my sister and I have is that at least no actual young women are being harassed by him.
SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 32d
Oh man, he is prime romance scam bait.
Simulation6@sopuli.xyz · -4 pts · 32d
They should totally Logans run anyone over 30.
AlteredEgo@lemmy.ml · 13 pts · 33d
I mean most of the influencer bullshit is artificial engagement anyway. People playing a role to entertain, gain attention, make money. If you look at porn comments, they are all dumb so it wouldn't surprise me that the boomers leaving comments are similarly dumb "roleplaying", knowing that this is just a fantasy sharing between gooners. They might simply not care if it's real or not.
Personally I don't get it, but whatever.
cantstopthesignal@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 33d
Yes but AI is taking jobs away from real live sex workers. Won't anyone think about them.
TheLowestStone@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 33d
AI still can't replace hookers.
rumba@lemmy.zip · 6 pts · 33d
https://loops.video/v/gMKlrvhFDv
PattyMcB@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 33d
...said the self-proclaimed "not-a-robot" named Roomba
Lol
rumba@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 32d
My alias predates roomba on other platforms.
"Why should I change, he's the one that sucks."
AlteredEgo@lemmy.ml · 0 pts · 33d
Well, lol. Theoretically with VR headsets and cyberdildonics like automatic fleshlights / masturbators it could come pretty close with the current technology. The kind of looks and environment and dirty talk you want. Obviously it would still be limited.
So AI generated VR porn with cyberdildonics actually could make much of sex work redundant. Theoretically this is a good thing. No human should have to do sex work or porn or onlyfans just for money to survive, if they don't genuinely enjoy doing it. (EDIT)
China already regulated this so that AI chat bots must not create addiction. It's probably a wise course to follow lol.
zarkanian@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 33d
I doubt that the technology is there. Or, if it is, it's prohibitively expensive.
You honestly don't believe that there are sex workers who are relying on their job for a paycheck? Why?
AlteredEgo@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 32d
No human should have to do sex work ...
zarkanian@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 32d
Do you feel this way about other kinds of work?
AlteredEgo@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 32d
Yes, promotional mascots. Also maybe portable toilet cleaners. Roadkill collector? Crime scene cleaners? Broadcaster definitely. Restroom attendant also.
But seriously, do you think this is a controversial view? Do you think parents want (EDIT: their adult) children or friends to have to do sex work? Would anybody go "oh wow I'm so proud of you"? I do not think so. So lowering the demand and therefor supply pressure is overall a societal good.
zarkanian@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 33d
This but unironically.
glitchdx@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 33d
ok now this makes me feel bad about my ai use
slickgoat@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 33d
We have to start adopting more accurate terminology for demographics. Most boomers are in their 70s and 80s. The 'boomer' shortcut has outlived it's usefulness. I'm a 'young' boomer at 68.
I saw a lot of these so-called boomers at J6. Except that they were in their 30s and 40s. Boomers ain't scaling walls no more.
FoxtrotDeltaTango@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 33d
Yeah, there’s people other than boomers, there’s gen Jones, Gen X, millennials and Gen Z zoomers
SalpSEO@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 33d
MangoCats@feddit.it · 4 pts · 33d
I wonder, like others here, whether or not the same people posting the AI generated images aren't also posting responses to make it look as if the images are convincing people they are real... those "life-like" response posts can make the images themselves more convincing, to some people.
kalpol@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 33d
Oh you don't have to wonder. It is shilling and is just about as old as time.
Duamerthrax@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 33d
I've been chewing out boomers I know who read off ai summaries. They don't even notice the ai summary label.
jivandabeast@lemmy.browntown.dev · 1 pts · 33d
Good bot
rumba@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 33d
🧩 Why whatever are you talking about—no clankers here! just us fellow skinbags!
Warning: AI assistants can make mistakes. AI assistants may generate inaccurate or harmful content.
webp@mander.xyz · 8 pts · 34d
Chuds
Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 34d
I like my thirst traps old fashioned. Give me a Hooters or seedy strip joint any day.
eighty@aussie.zone · 2 pts · 34d
flappers all day or nothing at all
mcv@lemmy.zip · 7 pts · 34d
From what I understand, that stuff now has to be clearly labelled as AI in the EU. Hopefully that will help a bit to reduce the mess.
PM_ME_YOUR_BOOBIES@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 33d
How the hell will this be enforced
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 33d
A tiny back office with half a dozen industry plants will be told to produce one high profile case every six to twelve months.
FoxtrotDeltaTango@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 33d
Either by a government agency or by gunpoint
Or hundreds of billions of dollars fines
MangoCats@feddit.it · 2 pts · 33d
That has worked so well for the last 80 years...
FoxtrotDeltaTango@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 33d
Well then there’s the death penalty
Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 34d
HAHAHAHAHA
No, it won't
homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 34d
Hey it sure beats talking to a non-dude about . . . y’know . . feelings. Like that’s ever gonna happen.
Sure, next thing you’ll want to convince us the objects of lust are human women with their own thoughts, physiology, and preferences. RIGHT!
zarkanian@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 33d
They'll talk to a non-dude about feelings. Their feelings. In fact, they'll do that instead of seeing a therapist.
homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 33d
Only a certain pre-selected set of ones, including: victorious, invincible, sly, brilliant, and suave.
zarkanian@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 33d
I mean, I hear women complain about how men use them as a substitute for therapy, so I assume that they aren't just talking about how awesome they are.
homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 32d
While I'm sure that's true, an actual therapist has training to prevent and overcome the kind of bullshit men no doubt wallow in with their amateur versions.
Zephyr@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 33d
Dude, AI content is now getting past me. Like all the tells are gone. Audio is clear, what they're saying makes sense, video doesn't have any strange artifacts. The only real tell is if the content is too extreme in some form or fashion.
Drewmeister@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 33d
Truth in journalism laws need to come back. We're moving toward a future where we can only trust what we see or hear irl. I need a way that i can trust a source.
Zephyr@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 33d
Sounds better than splitting the internet into three and forcing biometric verifications. Although that may end up happening for different reasons, aka a human only internet, a human & AI internet and a mainly AI only internet.
donald_von_shitsnpants@kopitalk.net · 6 pts · 34d
Boomersbeingfools?
FoxtrotDeltaTango@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 34d
This unfortunately
Malyca@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 34d
I miss that sub
SnarkoPolo@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 33d
I DO NOT GIVE PERMISSION FOR TEH FACE BOOKS TO USE MY WHATEVER
Modern_medicine_isnt@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 33d
100 likes, or even 1000 comments does not establish litterally anything about any demographic.
MangoCats@feddit.it · 3 pts · 33d
What the platforms know, but don't share very easily or at all, is how well established those accounts making the likes and comments are.
There was a time when the Facebook users count was starting to grow past the global human population...
xeno_the_warrior_prince@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 5 pts · 33d
zarkanian@sh.itjust.works · 0 pts · 33d
So thirsting over AI is your preference? Eww
xeno_the_warrior_prince@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 33d
Zwrt@lemmy.sdf.org · 1 pts · 32d
I already read the response to this but to come back.
Does it matter if the object of desire is “real”
People have performed fantasy for ages, this does not need to be about sex. Just because you know superheroes aren’t real doesn’t mean you cant enjoy the movie or low and behold have a wet dream of superman flying holding you in his arms.
People have been thirsting over lara crofts 3d boobs, i am not even gonna get started on japan.
Just that it was entirely expected and probably can be considered normal behaviour for (some) primates including humans to be mesmerised by a digital dream.
zarkanian@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 32d
If it doesn't matter to you, then it doesn't matter.
Lo* and behold. The phrase is "lo and behold" lol
Imagination is good. Using your imagination is good. That isn't what we're talking about here. What we're talking about is AI-generated porn, essentially.
Once I'm aware that something is AI-generated, it becomes gross and weird. That's how I feel, but I acknowledge that you might not feel that way.
Was not expecting random racism.
Zwrt@lemmy.sdf.org · 0 pts · 32d
I think we might have a miscommunication here, I don’t think i am disrespectful to anyone here.
Guadin@k.fe.derate.me · 5 pts · 34d
I don't get why there needs to be a whole lengthy article on this. Yes, it's sad. But is it really any different than all those webcam sites where they pretend to be in to you? Or back in the old days a guy with a high voice on the sexphone telling they are "so wet in bed right now" while making dinner for the family? Nothing in the porn/sex/entertainment world is real. Sometimes the people are, but sometimes they are not. And maybe they know it's fake and therefore are not holding back since they don't Harm the individual in the clip? (OK probably not the last one, but still...)
deliriousdreams@fedia.io · 6 pts · 34d
This and 50-60+ years of being able to take video at face value.
Add to that the fact that a lot of them are lonely and probably have been for a very long time.
We already knew the elderly were particularly vulnerable to scams. AI just turbo charges the same scams we've been seeing for awhile. It's catfishing but taken to a whole new level and the elderly are already a vulnerable target.
It's a lot easier for us young people to learn new media literacy and accept that things are changing.
This is not an endorsement of the behavior. It's pointing out that we already pretty much knew this was going to be a thing. This isn't much different than your grandma trying to send money to some scammers who called her about an overdue bill or late taxes.
zarkanian@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 33d
I won't say that never happened, but I think it's highly unlikely that there were a lot of dudes taking voice lessons so that they could get a job as a phone sex operator.
brucethemoose@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 33d
Also:
I’d love to do case studies on the real people at the end of these things.
Like, who is scrolling Facebook and Insta to thirst over algorithmic posts, yet is somehow unaware of the generative explosion?
Do they know, and just don’t care? Do they think they could tell if an image is fake, or is it true unawareness?
What do they do in real life? What are their relationships like?
How does this system work.
I think it’s easy to assume they’re all basement dwellers or whatever, but one could stereotype Lemmy the same way, and that’s just not true.
EDIT: Now that I think about it, such studies must exist. I don’t want to fall into the “I didn’t even try to search for the answer” thing.
But all this has happened so fast. And clearly the studies aren’t being acted on…
Lyrl@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 6 pts · 33d
My father is retired, my sister and I have carefully avoided describing AI to him because he would for sure get AI psychosis if he started conversing with a chat bot, his relationships are all unhealthy. My sister and I have made him agree to let us control his retirement income in exchange for bailing him out of a particularly financially devastating one of the many scams he fell for in retirement. We give him a weekly allowance for groceries and prescriptions and gift cards to give to thirst traps.
He is absolutely unaware they are fake, at a core identity level of refusal to grapple with reality. Some combination of he always had some susceptibility to this kind of thing, lost his only close trusted reality check person when he and my mom split up after over twenty years, and aging-related cognitive impairment.
brucethemoose@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 33d
What does he use specifically, though? Facebook, Instagram? OF?
On his phone, right?
I apologize if that's a weird question, but I'm... scientifically curious. I know lots of folks are susceptible, but I'm interested in the systems that suck folks like your father in.
Fedegenerate@fedinsfw.app · 4 pts · 34d
The beer bottle for our beetle brains. These beautiful bots bemusing these bewildered boomers don't exist.
Nouvellalia@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 34d
Hello Claudefriend
leaky_shower_thought@feddit.nl · 4 pts · 34d
meta: dem €ngag€ment$
anticurrent@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 33d
My dad listens to AI generated stories. I still don't know if he realizes they are Fictional AI stories, or if this is his way of killing time by this instead of listening to audio books. I guess audiobooks take commitment
DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 34d
For those who want it, Chloe Explains Thirst Traps:
https://youtu.be/YwLMZHqDR0A
Gsus4@mander.xyz · 2 pts · 34d
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Thirst+Trap
DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 34d
I'd like to see the clips, but I bailed on FB many years ago.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 34d
so much that there is even a sub for "isthisAI, thirstrap" posts.