Every time I walk past that stretch near Pike and 3rd in Seattle, right over that bit of concrete where the nazi got laid the fuck out, I punch the air. Every time.
I remember a post on Reddit of someone taking around 1000 mg and going to the bath, then realizing their mistake and being stuck there for half a day and nearly having to call an ambulance.
Someone needs to make a monument, like that woman hitting the nazi with her purse. Maybe, until then, some graffiti to make the location to people passing by? Or maybe some other cheap temporary display.
When I last used Imgur about ten years ago, they communicated exclusively in gifs and meme phrases. It's a bit odd.
But, when those browsing /new on Imgur had a mini-uprising and upvoted just anything for a day, weirdest and most outlandish stuff actually made it to the front page. That was the most fun I've ever had on a social-media site.
No wonder. Some rich guy must have got very upset. Strange though, plenty of people get punched all the time, and there are plenty more GIFs people getting punched. Banning specifically the Nazi guy getting punched isn't good PR I think...
we need socialism. we need to organize a lot more than ever. we need to be revolutionary optimists, and NOT give in to counterrevolutionary doom and gloom and defeatism. seriously!
a lot of people, regardless of what they think of charlie kirk, got traumatized because it is very graphic. i think some people encouraged playing tetris as a way to get your mind off that video. is it insensitive to tell people to play tetris after watching that graphic video?
Yeah and the community does not understand what it means to protect your audience from certain content. Violence is violence. At this point it does not matter who is who. But the community just had too much lead in the water and is unable to form their own thoughts, thus just follow the other sheep.
Someone I know cosplays as a Nazi. He doesn't walk around the streets wraring an armband. He goes in full military gear, riding around on an original WWII german bike with sidecar at WWII historic events. You know, like a cosplayer.
People like you are the reason why the US is a fascist nation now. Giving literal Nazis the benefit of the doubt over and over because they say that "it's just a joke" or whatever.
Correction in regards to 2: When you're in the "are we the baddies"-sketch it's OK. In fact, I'd say David Mitchell has a free pass, as he always manages to portray the insecurity required to become a nazi.
Also, in the one scenario where I would find dressing up as a nazi acceptable, which is if they're an actor for a movie/show/play that requires nazi characters, they are not going to just put an armband on their everyday modern clothing.
They'll wear a proper reconstruction of an actual nazi uniform, and they're not going to just walk around in that costume, they're going to be on or around a set, which also gives any possible passerbys the context clues needed to understand that they're just an actor, thus saving themselves from being punched.
Fun fact I have a swedish tankers trench coat from 1940 and a Swiss helmet from 1942 when I wear them together it basically looks like legally distinct werhmacht. I can pull the samething with an American armor school long coat and a Yugoslav helmet for the Soviet equivalent.
It's technically not Nazi apparel. It annoys my friends though.
Well aware but kitbashed great value brand versions of historical uniforms is just kinda a weird side effect of me collecting military surplus and military antiques.
I think it more reminds me how easily influenced we can be. "Go find out" is great, but its not possible to research everything you see. Even if I did I'd only find other people talking about the video and would have no real way of discerning who actually knows what theyre talking about and who's just making credible sounding shit up.
Do you guys not feel that worry somewhere in your mind when you see things like this?
I mean, it's not like me enjoying the video is going to affect the guy who got punched. I think it's good that as a society we support videos that appear to show Nazi cosplayers being punched and don't give them the benefit of the doubt. If I were actually there IRL and able to affect the outcome, I would also be able to ask for the necessary information to determine what to do.
The number of people willing to provide cover, and give the benefit of the doubt to people dressing as, and behaving like literal Nazis is too damn high. I'm seeing it everywhere on here lately.
"I don't know anything about the thing you guys are talking about, but what if he was dressed like that because he's an actor in a movie?"
Oh, I'm not defending a specific instance. I'm merely pointing out that there does exist a time and place where people should be allowed to dress as despicable characters from history
You're allowed, but surely you'd be aware enough not to walk in your costume outside the set. The same goes for theatre or anything. An actor who thinks it's a good idea to walk outside in a nazi costume has it coming, and that's a good thing.
Don't even engage with such a bullshit attempt at deflecting. Look, they've already got you talking about a bullshit hypothetical that they literally just made up whole cloth
Or a movie prop. Or a weird stag night. Or a mentally ill person unaware of the severity of the joke. Or theres a gunman behind the camera making him put the armband on. Or digitally altered before release. Or the list goes on.
What you think you see "Nazi scum punished"
What you actually saw "man gets punched"
Im lowkey shook fr how easily #2 becomes #1. Again, I'd like to point out I'm all for nazis getting fucked up.
So youre happy that you know based on a 2 second gif and it doesn't even slightly worry you how easy it is? Maybe it was cut to only show the good bit, but maybe its been cut to rob you of any context.
We have the ability to make anything look like anything, and we're cheering on violence based on a momentary flash of bad-guy logo, while being the same species that had literal witch- finders like a few generations ago.
I'm more worried now, because instead of seeing the point I'm trying to make people seem to be assuming I'm defending nazis.
Listen it took 4 hours and 70 odd down arrows before anyone provided any actual information, and you people are still piling on.
Minimum 70 people. I dont have enough of a metaphysical language set to get the original point across, but there are lessons to be learned here for all of us.
The sources for this video indicate the person wearing the armband:
Harassed a black man on a bus.
Walked around downtown Seattle for an hour dressed that way.
Had several verbal confrontations with passerby who commented on his clothing. Source 1
Several 911 calls were placed about this man attempting to instigate fights.
The man declined to file a police report after the police did appear. Source 2
For at least an hour at any point leading up to this, the person wearing the armband could have taken it off and stopped interacting with others. To my knowledge, the person who was punched has never spoken to media to explain why they were dressed as such, despite the massive internet fame of the video.
Do you still feel uncomfortable? Do you know in your bones if the person deserved it?
In this specific case im happy enough thanks for that. Thats actually cheered me up a little.
I'm not sure if I'll ever truly get there, think I'll be a little more comfortable joining the mob without context next time. This is the most consistent engagement I've ever had on this site and I think ive learned a thing or two here.
Well, donât join the mob blindly. Do your own research. The above information was gathered from one internet search using the available context clues from this post.
It did not take very long and was easy.
Then calculate it appears to be a guy wearing a nazi arm band
then consider that it would be the shittiest idea for a halloween costume south of blackface and even wearing nazi garb would likely get you a rightful ass-kicking.
There's no math there that makes that even slightly questionable.
Yeah, his hand coming up in a way that could be "this isn't what you think" doesn't help. The description makes the situation sound very different though and there's not much of an excuse for the armband right now. But yeah, not a fan of the gif now I've seen it
if this were a socialist country, whoever got punched would've been in jail, and the person doing the punching would probably serve in the red army, working to protect the proletariat. seriously!
It is always okay to punch Nazis. You don't need a reason. (serious answer though: I have no idea what kicked it off, my comment still stands though, it's always okay to punch Nazis.)
The social contract of tolerance doesn't extend to those who are intolerant. They are outside the protection of Tolerant Society's protection, and the Tolerant are free (and, in fact, strongly encouraged) not to tolerate them, because they aren't covered.
I really love that story. He is a better person than me. I really wish I still had hope for my fellow man like he does, but trump's second election fucking broke me. People who I used to think were smart and empathetic were jumping on the "fuck your feelings" bandwagon.
I've lost hope. I've lost love. I only have anger anymore.
I'm just thinking opsec here, why wouldn't you choose the ubiquitous .308? I mean even ol' Charles showed us the 30-06 can be effective even if you miss and it is a much more common round.
People who I used to think were smart and empathetic were jumping on the âfuck your feelingsâ bandwagon.
I don't know your friends. But I'd argue there's at least some reasoning for this.
If trade policies like globalization have harmed your economic status, offshoring a lot of the jobs you'd previously held, and you were having trouble feeding your family, wouldn't you vote for the person you thought could fix this? Wouldn't you say 'fuck your feelings, I need to feed my family so I'm sorry if you have trouble putting the sex you want on your passport I'm more worried about feeding my family'? At least in concept?
I think that's where a lot of that sentiment came from. The people of the nation are hurting, and part of Trump's message always was 'I see you hurting and I want to fix it'. Dems are totally tone deaf in their messaging. A huge % of the populace gets left out of the 'American Dream' and they say nothing. And in recent years they focus a lot on social justice issues and identity politics while ignoring the elephant in the room. It's why those good people are saying fuck your feelings (IMHO at least), because if the choice is your feelings or their livelihood, then of course they'll tell your feelings to shove off.
Of course it didn't work out that way- government cutbacks, tariffs, foreign policy, all handled in such a ham-fisted non-strategic way that whatever benefit might have been gained was instead lost. And now it's the little guy suffering, so you see a lot of people renouncing their votes.
All I'm saying is keep in mind some of those people who said 'fuck your feelings' thought they were fighting for a greater good. I don't believe they turned malicious. Some did I'm sure, but not all of them.
No worries my friend. I know it's hard, but it's useful to always assume good faith.
"The monster never sees a monster in the mirror. We all have good reasons and justifications for what we do."
-- J. Michael Straczynski
That applies to us too.
I think it especially applied in 2016, first time in my life that all pretense of respectful debate went away, replaced with 'unfriend me if you like Trump' as a mainstream accepted even encouraged position to have.
I talk to a lot of people who supported Trump. Most of them talked about tariffs, manufacturing, jobs, there was a dream of bringing back American industry and rolling back outsourcing. Yes there was some assholes, but there were plenty of good American folks who just wanted to keep their jobs.
But if you listened to Democrats, the only valid reason anyone would vote for Trump is because they are a tiki torch wielding racist misogynist sexist xenophobic islamophobic basket of deplorables. The public discourse broke down for good, it was all just insults from both sides.
Nobody saw a monster in the mirror. We only saw an opposition supporting a guy who was basically openly racist and creeped on his own daughter.
But they didn't see a monster in the mirror either. They only saw an ivory tower elite whipping ourselves into a frenzy over which bathroom someone uses while the middle class is dying.
That's why, in my opinion at least, it is always vitally important to generally assume good faith on the part of your opposition.
Because if there is good faith, then we repair the cracks that are dividing the country. And if there really isn't good faith, then we are all totally fucked anyway so it doesn't make any goddamn difference.
I don't know that he didn't get it. He just hadn't a different method of fighting back. Not everyone is going to be able to go around knocking them out. The vast majority of people won't in fact. There are still other tools they can use to stop the spread, or, in rare cases, reverse it. You have to be careful to not legitimize it though if you're doing something like that.
This thread got me thinking a little more about Mr. Davis.
We talk about 'not tolerating intolerance' but I think there's a second level-- there's the intolerance (the actions of the racist), and then there's the intolerant (the racists themselves). It's easy and simple to group the two together- we don't want racism, we don't want the KKK, we don't want KKK members, all of you go fuck yourselves with your burning cross and go die in a fire (preferably in another county).
I don't think Mr. Davis would tolerate intolerance any more than you or I. But I think what he does is tolerate the intolerant person, engage them in conversation, treat them like a human being. And THAT can help fix intolerance- by reaching out to the intolerant people and trying to bring them into the larger community and heal them, rather than shunning them and reinforcing their stereotypes.
Yep, and it has the potential to be very effective. I think we need both of these âpunching Nazis and talking with them to change their views.
Another big issue that goes with this is a lot of people will say that if their were bigots once then they should be shunned. This is very harmful though. If we do that then their only reasonable option is to double down. If they lose their group and also can't be accepted by the rest of society then they're never going to do that.
I think this problem is much larger than only this right now too. People make their opinions equal to them as a person. They feel if they change their opinion then they're failing as a person. This isn't true though. Changing your opinions when you're shown new information is a sign of strength.
I think we need both of these âpunching Nazis and talking with them to change their views.
Can you explain to me how punching Nazis works to reduce Naziism and racism? What is the mechanism of action? Like how specifically does getting punched make someone less racist?
That is a genuine question and I'd love an answer.
I personally believe that punching racists only creates more hatred. The racist will be angry at the one who punched him, and thus less open to anti-racist messaging.
It's BY tolerating it (or more specifically, the people who espouse it) that he fights it.
And I think that's the key difference- tolerating intolerance (the action), vs tolerating the intolerant (the people).
I think we would all (probably including Mr. Davis) agree that the action of intolerance should not be tolerated. For example, if a local movie theater wants to have 'whites only' movie nights, that should not be tolerated and in fact we should all aggressively fight back against such things wherever they happen.
But what of the intolerant person? What of the theater owner in the above example? Should we run him out of town? Tar and feather him? Refuse to talk to him?
The KKK folks he encountered are used to intolerance- threats, shouting, protests, etc. They know they're not popular, but that helps feed the belief that they are right. They're used to it. They're NOT used to being welcomed by anti-racists.
And thus Mr. Davis got through to the racist- by tolerating the intolerant, not by tolerating intolerance. It's a subtle but vital difference.
I think that's called conflict exhaustion. You're sick of fighting, sick of holding your nose and respecting things and people you find repugnant, while there's little/no serious progress in your direction, it seems like there's more racism and hatred than ever. So part of you is ready to set the world on fire if it gets rid of MAGA and all the thinly veiled (or not so thinly veiled) racism and intolerance.
Just keep in mind that the dark wolf actually serves those nazi punks. Punching them only makes them stronger.
You both completely miss the argument. Cile is strawmanning, vas is again viewing from the omniscient or opposing viewpoint.
Virtually all intolerants perceive themselves as victims. Permitting "intolerance of intolerance" is just accelerationist, "might makes right" ideology.
Earlier this week a user posted "kill Nazis" and got a warning from Imgur saying that imgur is an inclusive platform, welcome to everyone. (which apparently includes Nazis?)
That's what kicked this off (again).
There was already some upset feelings in the community because at the beginning of the week one of the "Elbow Deep In A" accounts got suspended over a "Gone Mild" drawing of a goblin girl. So it didn't take much for the community to be really upset with "business daddy"
The only reason any of these people have power is because we, as a society, continue to use their shit... Get the fuck off Twitter, get the fuck off Reddit, get the fuck off Facebook. Make those companies worthless by not using them it's literally so easy. I'm sure I'm preaching to the choir here but God damn it's literally so easy, just read a book. Touch some grass. We weren't ready for the internet and it's time to turn it off.
I'm really waiting for this idea to catch on. I got online in the late 80s to get away from normies and their boring, repetitive normie mind-viruses. Back then it was just nerds talking to other nerds. Nowadays you can't even talk to your friends here. This whole thing is for people to get angry about politics and buy products. The sooner all these people leave, the sooner we can get back to what originally brought us here.
Hopefully soon, going on social media will be seen as a bad antisocial habit like smoking.
Get the fuck off Twitter, get the fuck off Reddit, get the fuck off Facebook.
I mean, way ahead of you. But we're just jerking each other off if we think saying this downthread of a Lemmy post is changing anyone's mind. This is the most Preaching To The Choir ass post you can make outside of an actual church.
We werenât ready for the internet and itâs time to turn it off.
eye-roll
Listen, if you want to walk around downtown with a big sandwich board that says "Log The Fuck Off And Touch Grass", I'll cheer for you when I see you. But there's a reason people flock to an easily accessible portal for social engagement. And its naive to keep shouting "Log the fuck off!" from within the medium you can't seem to quit yourself.
Imgur has pissed me off long enough that I decided to roll my own this summer. When all I need is a place to store stuff for easy linking, building a web frontend is pretty trivial.
Plus I'm not limited to whatever file type and size imgur decides.
So I infrequently use Imgur and basically a user got banned for saying 'kill all nazis' and another user's post got taken down that had anti-nazi rhetoric. This is the most recent of a few scenarios where the mods have been seen as incompetent or overall shitty and so the community revolts. Honestly kinda dig it, at least they can coordinate and show a unified front....granted it's slacktivism to a point but it gets people's attention? Idk how I feel about it honestly.
It still surprises me that people use Imgur as a social media site. Imgur to me is a place that hosts image to be used on other social media sites. Using imgur as a social media site is like using a url shortener as a social media site. What's next, Captcha becomes a social media hangout?
Just because I have a Nazi tattoo and go to Nazi rallies and think ALL Jews and Minorities should die DOESNT make Me a NAZI! In FACT it makes YOU a Nazi!
I'd say it all started in the late 1960s with Nixon's implementation of the southern strategy. What we're seeing today is the resultant avalanche of American fascism, appropriately composed of fragile white snowflakes.
Well it started with a genocidal colonial project. Then it started with the repression of class revolts like Bacon's Rebellion. Then it started with the framing of a union of states that gave extra representation to rural slave-owners because their economic production was important. But it all started when those rural slave-owners wanted to make sure that new territorial expansions (remember, genocidal colonial project) also allowed slavery. Later it started when Lincoln was assassinated and his successor, Andrew Johnson, gave up on Reconstruction so the seditious slave-owning traitors weren't held accountable for the sedition or slavery and were allowed back into seats of political power.
A lot of reddit users, especially those who have recently been permabanned due to the great censorship purge, are just hanging out there now. Not much censorship.
It's super antifa. I scroll there a lot when I'm in a meme mood.
I'd say it started going hard political around the same time as everything else. February 2025.
You know what? I don't care what kicked it off. I don't care if it's a billionaire paying for bots. I'm just glad that the kind of people that get programmed by social media to vote for horrible shit might finally get programmed to do some good for a change.
One of the reasons I left, they were banning accounts that posted the nazi asshat getting punched. It was also broadly pro Ukraine, and apparently Ukraine was geolocked from imgur, but not russia
PS. I couldn't find a cleaner, high res. version and pictoline.com (listed there at the source) only has it in spanish. To make things even worse, there are many edited versions that replace nazis with other ideologies :/ f* the volatility of the internet... Oh. gotta search the internet archive... yeah, nope... not there either. Anyone can find a better version or knows the original source to this? else shall we try upscaling this JPG?
Stop using the fucking service! I'm so sick of people complaining about all of these tech companies, but they continue to use it. People need to realize they have an addiction issue and treat that shit.
Explain please. All the ones I see in the image are shaped like four adjoined letter L's which is the same way around that the Nazis used. Or are you referring to the fact that most of them aren't stood on a corner, diamond-wise?
Yes and no. The one the Nazis used was / is also a symbol used in Asia. (And really, everywhere. It's a fairly basic pattern.) The Nazis used it because of their obsession with Aryans. Sometimes it's at an angle, sometimes it's not.
Generally in the west, unless it's on a statue of budda, any swastika-ish symbol since the ~1930s is going to be a reference to Nazis though.
see it's interesting to me because I thought it was the way it looks like it should spin that matters, with the Buddhist one looking like it should spin clockwise and the Nazi one looking like it should spin counter clockwise. Is it the 45 degree tilt that makes the big difference?
Well yeah, one has to think to feel empathy and compassion. It's easy to hate, place blame and ignore responsibility. I am all for peace and equal treatment, but those who refuse tolerability must be stopped.
I don't really notice that many people using it tbh, they blocked the UK rather than comply with child data protection laws and its not that often I see failed to load imgur pictures. It happens, but the vast majority of images are fine.
The top right picture needs "HH" added to it. It's what people use on license plates. Used to be banned in Germany, but I saw one yesterday so I think My Little Nazi has unbanned it.
The plates are limited to 2 letters only for the state/province. The reason Bremen, Hamburg and LĂŒbeck have their own province code is due to their provincial level city status retained from the middle ages.
You realize you are the reason that the "r" word is back right? Remember when your ilk thought the "ok" symbol was a Nazi symbol? Please just get it over with and become neighbors with Tarantino permanently.
Wild. I saw a car here in California just the other day with an odd looking plate on some old dude's hotrod that had a little "HH" off to one side that, here, just means it's a historical vehicle used in classic car shows.
We need to take back the Thorn. Too many things are written as Ye in fake middle English (or fake early modern) which should be written with the thorn!
hey i'm thinking about studying on marxism-leninism (and variations therein). is there any way i can study in layman's terms without losing focus quickly, and is there also any way i can encourage myself to study on ml?
a company has no moral guiding principals outside of monetary gain. its board of directors members may have their own individual viewpoints, but as a collective, a corporation is representative only of the shareholder's shared interest in making some money. if they wanted anything else, they would collectivize into another form.
generally speaking the best, i mean the best, you can expect from a BoD member is liberalism and all that entails. from a liberal perspective, pacifism is a virtue to be signaled, not an overall approach to the world with a goal of bringing about a just and fair society. liberals preaching non-violence don't really care if someone is preaching violence so long as they don't practice violence and the results of the preaching of violence remain unseen.
that's how you wind up with liberals saying that the founder of turning point usa did things the right way and denouncing someone doing exactly the things he said were good to do, but moreover, denouncing people who have trained in violence accessing that violence in self defense. in the fight between fascism and anything other than fascism, violence must be used to denounce fascism because it is the only language fascists speak. you can use non-violence to interact with other political positions. those are positions who do not practice solely violence. but fascism believes access to violence grants license to use that violence. you can only counter this belief by rendering it scared to show itself in public
Well, if they wear the flag, display the Swastika, do the salute or go on about white supremacy, that's a pretty solid hint.
A Nazi is (originally) a particular brand of fascism, but much like champagne, it has become a generic term for the whole family of ideologies. The "ur-fascist" definition by Umberto Eco, who was witness to the fascist regime of Mussolini, highlights a few key traits if fascist ideology like a cult of tradition, emphasis on machismo and action over thought, obedience over independence, contempt for pacifism and weakness and populism that leverages frustrations, conspiracy theories and fears to rally its followers against some perceived enemy.
Not every trait is fascist on its own, but neither does some movement need to tick all boxes to be fascist. There's sure to be some grey area, but if you have people rushing to inflict violence on anyone looking differently, spurred on by a guy promising to restore some ambiguous past glory by blaming the economic and social troubles on foreigners and beating the war drums... yeah, well, eventually the indicators start piling up.
Turns out people on the "left" can be just as easily manipulated as those on the right. Surely its our own communities stoking violence between americans. Noone from outside the country could possibly want that for us, could they?
Why's it so easy to spot right wing propaganda but not left wing propaganda?
Because right-wing propaganda is "become Nazis, the left are all sub-humans" and the left wing propaganda is "what the fuck, the right are all Nazis!?"
It's hard to spot propaganda when it's just the truth spoken loudly.
Its the same message flipped. Its just as bigoted and divisive. And its not coming from americans either, this is other countries citizens attempting to tear america apart so it stops being a blight on the world. Hard to blame them, but we shouldnt be so naive.
The same folks sending "the left are subhuman!" to the right aren't also sending "the right are Nazis!" to the left. That would be a duplicate signal and inefficient.
Instead, they're sending "both sides suck" to the middle.
I'm pointing out that non-americans like to point the right at the left calling them violent antifa, while they do the same with the left by calling those on the right Nazis. Then Americans think the posters are also american and get angry at americans for it.
Its simple manipulation, cause my enemies to fight amongst themselves.
Being anti-Nazi isn't propaganda any more than being anti-genocide is propaganda. Being anti-Nazi and anti-genocide means you're a normal and reasonable person. I'll happily rebel against systems which are corrupt.
Promoting the labeling of large groups of people you have never met as Nazis, and then promoting violence against them, is a fantastic example of propaganda designed to create conflict and distrust amongst a community.
Shouldnt be so hard to see, I'm not sure why lemmy users are so susceptible to this type of manipulation.
I don't have to meet a Nazi to know they're a Nazi. Just as I don't need to personally meet a cobra to know that what I'm looking at is a venomous snake belonging to the genus Naja.
fantastic example of propaganda designed to create conflict and distrust amongst a community
Would you have tried to feed this kind of hogcock to the victims of the holocaust as it was happening? Was everyone hating Nazis when they called themselves Nazis just a victim of leftists propaganda?
How many bites do you take of a shit sandwich before you know what youâre eating?
Sounds like the propaganda has been effective with you. I literally see no difference between you and a racist maga supporter. Both are simple, impulsive, and violent. None of those things are what make a good american.
398 Comments
EntropyPure@lemmy.world · 375 pts · 260d
Somebody was banned for posting the GIF of the Nazi Guy getting knocked out (you know the one).
The community is not having it.
tanisnikana@lemmy.world · 155 pts · 260d
Every time I walk past that stretch near Pike and 3rd in Seattle, right over that bit of concrete where the nazi got laid the fuck out, I punch the air. Every time.
RubberElectrons@lemmy.world · 78 pts · 260d
Damn, that's where it happened?? I fucking bike right past that!!
tanisnikana@lemmy.world · 91 pts · 259d
https://www.bet.com/article/x7v52n/seattle-man-records-video-of-a-neo-nazi-getting-knocked-out
Yeah, check the tiles, this is just right outside of one of the entrances to Westlake TC.
TheFermentalist@reddthat.com · 32 pts · 259d
I fucken love that GIF
lemming741@lemmy.world · 26 pts · 259d
Have you seen this one?
https://old.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/oe7svu/former_astronaut_buzz_aldrin_punching_a/
Not as satisfying as a nazi, but still very good
IWW4@lemmy.zip · 8 pts · 259d
I love that one.
frunch@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 259d
Not the person you responded to but i love that one too!! Thanks for posting it đ
madjo@feddit.nl · 2 pts · 258d
Sadly the punch didn't knock any sense in him as Bart Sibrel still believe space is fake, none of the moon landings happened and the earth is flat.
RubberElectrons@lemmy.world · 28 pts · 259d
Hell yeah, awesome đ
PapaStevesy@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 259d
This story just gets better.
Sc00ter@lemmy.zip · 10 pts · 259d
I wouldnt be functioning at that level holy hell
Schmoo@slrpnk.net · 10 pts · 259d
Anyone eating that much THC has been working their way up to that for a long time.
SlurpingPus@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 259d
I remember a post on Reddit of someone taking around 1000 mg and going to the bath, then realizing their mistake and being stuck there for half a day and nearly having to call an ambulance.
Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 259d
I'm ready to sleep half the time at 5mg. Holy shit.
njordomir@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 259d
Lol, I would wake up some time in February with an apetite sufficient to cause a global famine.
sbeak@sopuli.xyz · 11 pts · 259d
Woah, wearing the armband and everything. And apparently he was harassing some guy? No wonder he got punched right in the face.
Confused_Emus@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 259d
That site needs to pick a font and stick with it.
Cethin@lemmy.zip · 6 pts · 259d
Someone needs to make a monument, like that woman hitting the nazi with her purse. Maybe, until then, some graffiti to make the location to people passing by? Or maybe some other cheap temporary display.
swearengen@sopuli.xyz · 91 pts · 259d
Imgurians are an odd bunch but I'm glad they're anti Nazi.
naught101@lemmy.world · 25 pts · 259d
Yeah, best politics of any centralised social media by a long shot.
LogicalDrivel@sopuli.xyz · 22 pts · 259d
I know it is, technically. I just never group Imgur into social media. Its always been just an image host in my mind.
SlurpingPus@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 259d
When I last used Imgur about ten years ago, they communicated exclusively in gifs and meme phrases. It's a bit odd.
But, when those browsing /new on Imgur had a mini-uprising and upvoted just anything for a day, weirdest and most outlandish stuff actually made it to the front page. That was the most fun I've ever had on a social-media site.
sbeak@sopuli.xyz · 28 pts · 259d
No wonder. Some rich guy must have got very upset. Strange though, plenty of people get punched all the time, and there are plenty more GIFs people getting punched. Banning specifically the Nazi guy getting punched isn't good PR I think...
DylanMc6@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 259d
gill o' teens
notreallyhere@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 259d
Successful_Try543@feddit.org · 14 pts · 259d
@tanisnikana@lemmy.world was so kind to link the video for us who don't know.
https://lemmy.world/comment/20957500
notreallyhere@lemmy.world · -7 pts · 259d
Ghoelian@piefed.social · 10 pts · 259d
All Nazis deserve to get punched. It makes it look like there's consequences to their moronic beliefs.
SlurpingPus@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 259d
âLiberals are such pussiesâ
ModernRisk@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 10 pts · 259d
It just amazes me how to doing the Nazi salute, uniforms and speechâs are entirely okay now. However, being against it gets you banned.
The world has gone a full circle and we are back to the days were fascism, hatred and all that is okay. Unfortunately.
DylanMc6@lemmy.ml · 5 pts · 259d
we need socialism. we need to organize a lot more than ever. we need to be revolutionary optimists, and NOT give in to counterrevolutionary doom and gloom and defeatism. seriously!
quick_snail@feddit.nl · 2 pts · 259d
You mean Charlie Kirk getting shot in the neck?
ayyy@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 259d
That was funny too, but no theyâre talking about this.
DylanMc6@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 259d
a lot of people, regardless of what they think of charlie kirk, got traumatized because it is very graphic. i think some people encouraged playing tetris as a way to get your mind off that video. is it insensitive to tell people to play tetris after watching that graphic video?
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7828932/
quick_snail@feddit.nl · 2 pts · 259d
Sure, but zoom out. I think the vast majority of people watched it over-and-over in sheer glee.
And later slept much better, knowing that a horrible person spreading hate was no longer
DylanMc6@lemmy.ml · 0 pts · 259d
"zoom out"?
dumbass@piefed.social · 1 pts · 259d
The one that gets its tooth knocked out?
Man I love that clip, you can live vicariously through it for a second.
DylanMc6@lemmy.ml · 0 pts · 259d
imgbox is the way to go
zr0@lemmy.dbzer0.com · -20 pts · 259d
Yeah and the community does not understand what it means to protect your audience from certain content. Violence is violence. At this point it does not matter who is who. But the community just had too much lead in the water and is unable to form their own thoughts, thus just follow the other sheep.
uncouple9831@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 259d
zr0@lemmy.dbzer0.com · -6 pts · 259d
Youâd be the first to cry when Imgur had to shut down because of problematic content on it. And please, drink less of that tap water.
uncouple9831@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 259d
yermaw@sh.itjust.works · -101 pts · 259d
That video always makes me uncomfortable because I dont know the actual context. Maybe he was in Halloween fancy dress?
Yes fuck nazis, but I dont know in my bones the person deserved it.
Feathercrown@lemmy.world · 91 pts · 259d
jol@discuss.tchncs.de · 41 pts · 259d
Yeah, I think you should cosplay as a nazi the same way we wear fake guns. You better make it abundantly clear that it's a toy/costume.
Maestro@fedia.io · 33 pts · 259d
Someone I know cosplays as a Nazi. He doesn't walk around the streets wraring an armband. He goes in full military gear, riding around on an original WWII german bike with sidecar at WWII historic events. You know, like a cosplayer.
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 5 pts · 259d
If true, then the person you know is a loser and someone should beat the shit out of them.
It doesn't matter how authentic it is if you're cosplaying as a fucking Nazi.
village604@adultswim.fan · 9 pts · 259d
I mean, I think historical reenactments are a valid exception to the rule.
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 259d
Is that "cosplay" though? Certainly not what I would call it.
Soulg@ani.social · 0 pts · 259d
Do it yourself then tough guy
Literally know nothing about the person, that doesn't make them a Nazi lol
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 259d
People like you are the reason why the US is a fascist nation now. Giving literal Nazis the benefit of the doubt over and over because they say that "it's just a joke" or whatever.
IWW4@lemmy.zip · 15 pts · 259d
YOU NEVER COSPLAY AS A NAZIâŠ
neidu3@sh.itjust.works · 21 pts · 259d
Correction in regards to 2: When you're in the "are we the baddies"-sketch it's OK. In fact, I'd say David Mitchell has a free pass, as he always manages to portray the insecurity required to become a nazi.
Best_Jeanist@discuss.online · 6 pts · 259d
Mr Chaplain also does a great job with it
hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 19 pts · 259d
Also, in the one scenario where I would find dressing up as a nazi acceptable, which is if they're an actor for a movie/show/play that requires nazi characters, they are not going to just put an armband on their everyday modern clothing.
They'll wear a proper reconstruction of an actual nazi uniform, and they're not going to just walk around in that costume, they're going to be on or around a set, which also gives any possible passerbys the context clues needed to understand that they're just an actor, thus saving themselves from being punched.
RaoulDuke25@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 6 pts · 259d
Unless you're cosplaying a dead Nazi
vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 259d
Fun fact I have a swedish tankers trench coat from 1940 and a Swiss helmet from 1942 when I wear them together it basically looks like legally distinct werhmacht. I can pull the samething with an American armor school long coat and a Yugoslav helmet for the Soviet equivalent.
It's technically not Nazi apparel. It annoys my friends though.
Feathercrown@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 259d
Kinda weird dude...
vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 259d
Well aware but kitbashed great value brand versions of historical uniforms is just kinda a weird side effect of me collecting military surplus and military antiques.
yermaw@sh.itjust.works · -12 pts · 259d
I think it more reminds me how easily influenced we can be. "Go find out" is great, but its not possible to research everything you see. Even if I did I'd only find other people talking about the video and would have no real way of discerning who actually knows what theyre talking about and who's just making credible sounding shit up.
Do you guys not feel that worry somewhere in your mind when you see things like this?
Feathercrown@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 259d
I mean, it's not like me enjoying the video is going to affect the guy who got punched. I think it's good that as a society we support videos that appear to show Nazi cosplayers being punched and don't give them the benefit of the doubt. If I were actually there IRL and able to affect the outcome, I would also be able to ask for the necessary information to determine what to do.
quick_snail@feddit.nl · -15 pts · 259d
So we're not allowed to make movies that show the horrific history of Nazi Germany?
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 12 pts · 259d
The number of people willing to provide cover, and give the benefit of the doubt to people dressing as, and behaving like literal Nazis is too damn high. I'm seeing it everywhere on here lately.
"I don't know anything about the thing you guys are talking about, but what if he was dressed like that because he's an actor in a movie?"
Really?
quick_snail@feddit.nl · 0 pts · 259d
Oh, I'm not defending a specific instance. I'm merely pointing out that there does exist a time and place where people should be allowed to dress as despicable characters from history
angrystego@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 259d
You're allowed, but surely you'd be aware enough not to walk in your costume outside the set. The same goes for theatre or anything. An actor who thinks it's a good idea to walk outside in a nazi costume has it coming, and that's a good thing.
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 5 pts · 259d
Don't even engage with such a bullshit attempt at deflecting. Look, they've already got you talking about a bullshit hypothetical that they literally just made up whole cloth
Soulg@ani.social · 4 pts · 259d
There's no deflecting, a stupid statement was made and the stupidity of it is being demonstrated.
Feathercrown@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 259d
https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/comment/18212399
IWW4@lemmy.zip · 34 pts · 259d
Halloween fancy dress?
Dude.. give me a break.
yermaw@sh.itjust.works · -36 pts · 259d
Or a movie prop. Or a weird stag night. Or a mentally ill person unaware of the severity of the joke. Or theres a gunman behind the camera making him put the armband on. Or digitally altered before release. Or the list goes on.
What you think you see "Nazi scum punished"
What you actually saw "man gets punched"
Im lowkey shook fr how easily #2 becomes #1. Again, I'd like to point out I'm all for nazis getting fucked up.
IWW4@lemmy.zip · 22 pts · 259d
If it is a movie prop than the person stays on the lot. There is no stag night justification, mental illness ok..
But you are reaching.
There are certain things you never choose to do. Pretending to be be a Nazi is one of them.
yermaw@sh.itjust.works · -17 pts · 259d
So youre happy that you know based on a 2 second gif and it doesn't even slightly worry you how easy it is? Maybe it was cut to only show the good bit, but maybe its been cut to rob you of any context.
We have the ability to make anything look like anything, and we're cheering on violence based on a momentary flash of bad-guy logo, while being the same species that had literal witch- finders like a few generations ago.
I'm more worried now, because instead of seeing the point I'm trying to make people seem to be assuming I'm defending nazis.
samus12345@sh.itjust.works · 10 pts · 259d
You are normalizing them by defending a guy who chose to dress as one in public.
Tyrq@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 259d
Because you are you fucking moron
yermaw@sh.itjust.works · -6 pts · 259d
Listen it took 4 hours and 70 odd down arrows before anyone provided any actual information, and you people are still piling on.
Minimum 70 people. I dont have enough of a metaphysical language set to get the original point across, but there are lessons to be learned here for all of us.
Alaik@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 259d
Dude come on. Context alone.
village604@adultswim.fan · 11 pts · 259d
Fuck off, Nazi sympathiser. You're literally inventing reasons to justify proudly wearing the symbol of hate and genocide.
Soulg@ani.social · -8 pts · 259d
Asking for nuanced is not sympathizing with them.
rumba@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 259d
Did you just really ignore monuments comment two above?
I guess we know where your sympathies land
yermaw@sh.itjust.works · -2 pts · 259d
The one that was posted a clear hour after? Im not a time traveller man
Monument@lemmy.sdf.org · 23 pts · 259d
The sources for this video indicate the person wearing the armband:
Source 1
Source 2
For at least an hour at any point leading up to this, the person wearing the armband could have taken it off and stopped interacting with others. To my knowledge, the person who was punched has never spoken to media to explain why they were dressed as such, despite the massive internet fame of the video.
Do you still feel uncomfortable? Do you know in your bones if the person deserved it?
yermaw@sh.itjust.works · -7 pts · 259d
In this specific case im happy enough thanks for that. Thats actually cheered me up a little.
I'm not sure if I'll ever truly get there, think I'll be a little more comfortable joining the mob without context next time. This is the most consistent engagement I've ever had on this site and I think ive learned a thing or two here.
Monument@lemmy.sdf.org · 9 pts · 259d
Well, donât join the mob blindly. Do your own research. The above information was gathered from one internet search using the available context clues from this post.
It did not take very long and was easy.
Diddlydee@feddit.uk · 16 pts · 259d
Fancy dress? That's a stretch. Usually in fancy dress you're imitating someone. Who is he meant to be? Just a generic Nazi.
rumba@lemmy.zip · 11 pts · 259d
Consider:
Someone is getting knocked the F out on camera.
There is a crowd of people
No one is stopping or diffusing the situation
No one is stopping over the check on the fallen
Then calculate it appears to be a guy wearing a nazi arm band
then consider that it would be the shittiest idea for a halloween costume south of blackface and even wearing nazi garb would likely get you a rightful ass-kicking.
There's no math there that makes that even slightly questionable.
Dogiedog64@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 259d
Bait used to be believable SMH my head...
porcoesphino@mander.xyz · -8 pts · 259d
Yeah, his hand coming up in a way that could be "this isn't what you think" doesn't help. The description makes the situation sound very different though and there's not much of an excuse for the armband right now. But yeah, not a fan of the gif now I've seen it
sauerkrautsaul@lemmus.org · 20 pts · 259d
this is clipped. in a longer version he's talking shit a second before he says "wait hold on now"
https://tenor.com/view/punch-nazis-punch-nazi-gif-4407514585179777115
porcoesphino@mander.xyz · 8 pts · 259d
Oh yeah, I can get behind this gif a lot more
NecroParagon@lemmynsfw.com · 5 pts · 259d
It's a really old video, from like 8 years ago I think. But a timeless classic.
Swemg@lemmy.world · 252 pts · 259d
tetris11@feddit.uk · 56 pts · 259d
"wait wait, this isn't as bad as it looks, there's a subtle context here that..."
-POW-
samus12345@sh.itjust.works · 24 pts · 259d
He did not visualize that coming.
caseyweederman@lemmy.ca · 6 pts · 259d
Ha. Nice subversion.
samus12345@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 259d
Whenever I have a knee-jerk response and it seems too played out, I think of a way to subvert it instead.
kurcatovium@piefed.social · 8 pts · 259d
He tried a jedi force trick to stop the punch. And failed.
birdwing@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 4 pts · 259d
Have you ever lived if you never have punched a Nazi?
DylanMc6@lemmy.ml · 0 pts · 259d
if you have a time machine, please prevent that red scare and also encourage any socialists/communists to express themselves. seriously!
DylanMc6@lemmy.ml · 0 pts · 259d
if this were a socialist country, whoever got punched would've been in jail, and the person doing the punching would probably serve in the red army, working to protect the proletariat. seriously!
DylanMc6@lemmy.ml · 0 pts · 259d
should've been ran out of town on a rail like homer stokes in the 2000 film "o brother where art thou". seriously!
DylanMc6@lemmy.ml · 0 pts · 259d
richard b spencer is an a-hole. seriously!
cecilkorik@piefed.ca · 144 pts · 260d
It is always okay to punch Nazis. You don't need a reason. (serious answer though: I have no idea what kicked it off, my comment still stands though, it's always okay to punch Nazis.)
_deleted_@aussie.zone · 82 pts · 260d
Klear@quokk.au · 33 pts · 259d
Valmond@lemmy.world · 29 pts · 259d
AshMan85@lemmy.world · 122 pts · 259d
The rise in nazis thinking they are acceptable
postmateDumbass@lemmy.world · 47 pts · 259d
Nazis and other supremists are the reason intolerance needs to exist.
MajorasTerribleFate@lemmy.zip · 75 pts · 259d
The social contract of tolerance doesn't extend to those who are intolerant. They are outside the protection of Tolerant Society's protection, and the Tolerant are free (and, in fact, strongly encouraged) not to tolerate them, because they aren't covered.
SirEDCaLot@lemmy.today · 12 pts · 259d
This guy obviously didn't get that memo
YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today · 13 pts · 259d
I really love that story. He is a better person than me. I really wish I still had hope for my fellow man like he does, but trump's second election fucking broke me. People who I used to think were smart and empathetic were jumping on the "fuck your feelings" bandwagon.
I've lost hope. I've lost love. I only have anger anymore.
ayyy@sh.itjust.works · 7 pts · 259d
I find that assassinating prominent political figures helps me feel better.
ExtremeUnicorn@feddit.org · 8 pts · 259d
How many have you killed today?
CileTheSane@lemmy.ca · 7 pts · 259d
Nice try FBI
FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 259d
.338 Lapua for the soul
YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today · 4 pts · 259d
I'm just thinking opsec here, why wouldn't you choose the ubiquitous .308? I mean even ol' Charles showed us the 30-06 can be effective even if you miss and it is a much more common round.
SirEDCaLot@lemmy.today · 5 pts · 259d
I don't know your friends. But I'd argue there's at least some reasoning for this.
If trade policies like globalization have harmed your economic status, offshoring a lot of the jobs you'd previously held, and you were having trouble feeding your family, wouldn't you vote for the person you thought could fix this? Wouldn't you say 'fuck your feelings, I need to feed my family so I'm sorry if you have trouble putting the sex you want on your passport I'm more worried about feeding my family'? At least in concept?
I think that's where a lot of that sentiment came from. The people of the nation are hurting, and part of Trump's message always was 'I see you hurting and I want to fix it'. Dems are totally tone deaf in their messaging. A huge % of the populace gets left out of the 'American Dream' and they say nothing. And in recent years they focus a lot on social justice issues and identity politics while ignoring the elephant in the room. It's why those good people are saying fuck your feelings (IMHO at least), because if the choice is your feelings or their livelihood, then of course they'll tell your feelings to shove off.
Of course it didn't work out that way- government cutbacks, tariffs, foreign policy, all handled in such a ham-fisted non-strategic way that whatever benefit might have been gained was instead lost. And now it's the little guy suffering, so you see a lot of people renouncing their votes.
All I'm saying is keep in mind some of those people who said 'fuck your feelings' thought they were fighting for a greater good. I don't believe they turned malicious. Some did I'm sure, but not all of them.
YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today · 6 pts · 259d
Thanks for trying to help keep me grounded.
SirEDCaLot@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 259d
No worries my friend. I know it's hard, but it's useful to always assume good faith.
That applies to us too.
I think it especially applied in 2016, first time in my life that all pretense of respectful debate went away, replaced with 'unfriend me if you like Trump' as a mainstream accepted even encouraged position to have.
I talk to a lot of people who supported Trump. Most of them talked about tariffs, manufacturing, jobs, there was a dream of bringing back American industry and rolling back outsourcing. Yes there was some assholes, but there were plenty of good American folks who just wanted to keep their jobs.
But if you listened to Democrats, the only valid reason anyone would vote for Trump is because they are a tiki torch wielding racist misogynist sexist xenophobic islamophobic basket of deplorables. The public discourse broke down for good, it was all just insults from both sides.
Nobody saw a monster in the mirror. We only saw an opposition supporting a guy who was basically openly racist and creeped on his own daughter.
But they didn't see a monster in the mirror either. They only saw an ivory tower elite whipping ourselves into a frenzy over which bathroom someone uses while the middle class is dying.
That's why, in my opinion at least, it is always vitally important to generally assume good faith on the part of your opposition. Because if there is good faith, then we repair the cracks that are dividing the country. And if there really isn't good faith, then we are all totally fucked anyway so it doesn't make any goddamn difference.
I_Jedi@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 258d
Cethin@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 259d
I don't know that he didn't get it. He just hadn't a different method of fighting back. Not everyone is going to be able to go around knocking them out. The vast majority of people won't in fact. There are still other tools they can use to stop the spread, or, in rare cases, reverse it. You have to be careful to not legitimize it though if you're doing something like that.
SirEDCaLot@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 259d
This thread got me thinking a little more about Mr. Davis.
We talk about 'not tolerating intolerance' but I think there's a second level-- there's the intolerance (the actions of the racist), and then there's the intolerant (the racists themselves). It's easy and simple to group the two together- we don't want racism, we don't want the KKK, we don't want KKK members, all of you go fuck yourselves with your burning cross and go die in a fire (preferably in another county).
I don't think Mr. Davis would tolerate intolerance any more than you or I. But I think what he does is tolerate the intolerant person, engage them in conversation, treat them like a human being. And THAT can help fix intolerance- by reaching out to the intolerant people and trying to bring them into the larger community and heal them, rather than shunning them and reinforcing their stereotypes.
MajorasTerribleFate@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 259d
"Hate the sin, love the sinner", so to speak.
SirEDCaLot@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 258d
Exactly 100%
Cethin@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 259d
Yep, and it has the potential to be very effective. I think we need both of these âpunching Nazis and talking with them to change their views.
Another big issue that goes with this is a lot of people will say that if their were bigots once then they should be shunned. This is very harmful though. If we do that then their only reasonable option is to double down. If they lose their group and also can't be accepted by the rest of society then they're never going to do that.
I think this problem is much larger than only this right now too. People make their opinions equal to them as a person. They feel if they change their opinion then they're failing as a person. This isn't true though. Changing your opinions when you're shown new information is a sign of strength.
SirEDCaLot@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 256d
Can you explain to me how punching Nazis works to reduce Naziism and racism? What is the mechanism of action? Like how specifically does getting punched make someone less racist?
That is a genuine question and I'd love an answer.
I personally believe that punching racists only creates more hatred. The racist will be angry at the one who punched him, and thus less open to anti-racist messaging.
agent_nycto@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 259d
I'd argue he isn't tolerating white supremacy, he's found a good way to counteract it. If he tolerated it he wouldn't do anything.
SirEDCaLot@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 259d
It's BY tolerating it (or more specifically, the people who espouse it) that he fights it.
And I think that's the key difference- tolerating intolerance (the action), vs tolerating the intolerant (the people).
I think we would all (probably including Mr. Davis) agree that the action of intolerance should not be tolerated. For example, if a local movie theater wants to have 'whites only' movie nights, that should not be tolerated and in fact we should all aggressively fight back against such things wherever they happen.
But what of the intolerant person? What of the theater owner in the above example? Should we run him out of town? Tar and feather him? Refuse to talk to him?
The KKK folks he encountered are used to intolerance- threats, shouting, protests, etc. They know they're not popular, but that helps feed the belief that they are right. They're used to it. They're NOT used to being welcomed by anti-racists.
And thus Mr. Davis got through to the racist- by tolerating the intolerant, not by tolerating intolerance. It's a subtle but vital difference.
agent_nycto@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 258d
There's two wolves in me. One ages with this and the other says nazi punks fuck off and thinks they should be punched.
SirEDCaLot@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 258d
I think that's called conflict exhaustion. You're sick of fighting, sick of holding your nose and respecting things and people you find repugnant, while there's little/no serious progress in your direction, it seems like there's more racism and hatred than ever. So part of you is ready to set the world on fire if it gets rid of MAGA and all the thinly veiled (or not so thinly veiled) racism and intolerance.
Just keep in mind that the dark wolf actually serves those nazi punks. Punching them only makes them stronger.
liuther9@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 258d
He is an outlier. Simply impossible for me and most of other people to be so selfless, social, patient and dedicated.
SirEDCaLot@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 257d
Why?
CrabAndBroom@lemmy.ml · 4 pts · 258d
Reminds me of this old story:
MajorasTerribleFate@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 258d
Definitely one of my favorites, and illustrates the point effectively.
Bgugi@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 259d
Edit: accidentally double posted
CileTheSane@lemmy.ca · 5 pts · 259d
Do the Nazis ever claim they are intolerant of minorities because the minorities were intolerant to them?
Bgugi@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 259d
Unironically yes? Replacement theory, blood libel, global elitism... Whatever the angle, lots of -isms expouse roots in victimhood.
Bgugi@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 259d
That view is fine and dandy with an an omniscient lens of who's the reactionary intolerant and who is the originator of intolerance.
CileTheSane@lemmy.ca · 8 pts · 259d
Group A: "I am intolerant of (group) because they need to go back to their own country and not live in mine."
Group B: "I am intolerant of (group) because they don't tolerate other ethnicities."
This guy: "but who was intolerant first?"
vas@lemmy.ml · 5 pts · 259d
Wrong question. It doesn't matter who was "first".
If the first group stops, the problem is gone.
If the second group stops, the problem is not gone but likely growing.
Bgugi@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 259d
You both completely miss the argument. Cile is strawmanning, vas is again viewing from the omniscient or opposing viewpoint.
Virtually all intolerants perceive themselves as victims. Permitting "intolerance of intolerance" is just accelerationist, "might makes right" ideology.
HP_Rubshaft@lemmynsfw.com · 1 pts · 258d
This just feels like an enlightened centrist take or worse, playing cover for bigotry.
Cile is less strawmanning and more exemplifying the absurdity of applying this mentality to literal Nazis and white supremacists.
Can you give an example of your assertion, historical or imagined, where we SHOULDN'T act against acts of intolerance due to some muddying factor?
Credibly_Human@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 258d
They are becoming so by way of people not doing anything about it, and literally voting them into power.
madjo@feddit.nl · 76 pts · 258d
Earlier this week a user posted "kill Nazis" and got a warning from Imgur saying that imgur is an inclusive platform, welcome to everyone. (which apparently includes Nazis?)
That's what kicked this off (again).
There was already some upset feelings in the community because at the beginning of the week one of the "Elbow Deep In A" accounts got suspended over a "Gone Mild" drawing of a goblin girl. So it didn't take much for the community to be really upset with "business daddy"
bizzle@lemmy.world · 72 pts · 259d
The only reason any of these people have power is because we, as a society, continue to use their shit... Get the fuck off Twitter, get the fuck off Reddit, get the fuck off Facebook. Make those companies worthless by not using them it's literally so easy. I'm sure I'm preaching to the choir here but God damn it's literally so easy, just read a book. Touch some grass. We weren't ready for the internet and it's time to turn it off.
FridaySteve@lemmy.world · 32 pts · 259d
I'm really waiting for this idea to catch on. I got online in the late 80s to get away from normies and their boring, repetitive normie mind-viruses. Back then it was just nerds talking to other nerds. Nowadays you can't even talk to your friends here. This whole thing is for people to get angry about politics and buy products. The sooner all these people leave, the sooner we can get back to what originally brought us here.
Hopefully soon, going on social media will be seen as a bad antisocial habit like smoking.
ameancow@lemmy.world · -11 pts · 259d
FlyingCircus@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 259d
Imagibe trying to police other peopleâs language in 2025
ameancow@lemmy.world · -5 pts · 259d
FlyingCircus@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 259d
Well the impression Iâm getting from you is that youâre an asshole đ€·đŒââïž
AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 259d
They are a mean cow, according to themselves.
FridaySteve@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 259d
I can't imagine having trouble understanding that word but let me know if you actually need clarification.
bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works · 11 pts · 259d
Idiots weren't ready for the internet.
If people would get out of walled garden bot ridden bullshit, the internet could be great.
What non nerds use today is not internet. I like to call it Corpo-Net. Because these people never venture outside their billionaire facist websites.
DylanMc6@lemmy.ml · 0 pts · 259d
if this were a socialist country, the internet would be a lot less corporate. seriously1
bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 259d
Im not sure having laws policing the internet is a good idea. Educating the populous and defunding propaganda advertising would be a better move.
Also I do agree with bizzle, people need to just turn it off more often (Go see Running Man if you haven't. Exact parallels to our current state. )
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 259d
I mean, way ahead of you. But we're just jerking each other off if we think saying this downthread of a Lemmy post is changing anyone's mind. This is the most Preaching To The Choir ass post you can make outside of an actual church.
eye-roll
Listen, if you want to walk around downtown with a big sandwich board that says "Log The Fuck Off And Touch Grass", I'll cheer for you when I see you. But there's a reason people flock to an easily accessible portal for social engagement. And its naive to keep shouting "Log the fuck off!" from within the medium you can't seem to quit yourself.
agent_nycto@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 259d
I mean they got to power using those things so I'm not sure just handing over that sphere of influence is the best strategy.
DylanMc6@lemmy.ml · 0 pts · 259d
we need a more leftist alternative to facebook. seriously!
LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world · -3 pts · 259d
Did you write all that on the internet? Or did you scrawl it in ballpoint pen in the back of a book you're reading?
bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 259d
"Society could improve somewhat" meme...
neidu3@sh.itjust.works · 65 pts · 259d
Imgur has pissed me off long enough that I decided to roll my own this summer. When all I need is a place to store stuff for easy linking, building a web frontend is pretty trivial.
Plus I'm not limited to whatever file type and size imgur decides.
And guess what, my site condones punching Nazis:
Bosht@lemmy.world · 60 pts · 259d
So I infrequently use Imgur and basically a user got banned for saying 'kill all nazis' and another user's post got taken down that had anti-nazi rhetoric. This is the most recent of a few scenarios where the mods have been seen as incompetent or overall shitty and so the community revolts. Honestly kinda dig it, at least they can coordinate and show a unified front....granted it's slacktivism to a point but it gets people's attention? Idk how I feel about it honestly.
Peppycito@sh.itjust.works · 54 pts · 259d
A damn sight better than fucking corn.
devdoggy@lemmy.world · 35 pts · 259d
Whaa??
meco03211@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 259d
Where's the jorn when you need it?
KeenFlame@feddit.nu · 6 pts · 259d
Aaaaaw he looks genuinely hurt
BootLoop@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 259d
đœđżđœđżđœđż
merc@sh.itjust.works · 54 pts · 259d
It still surprises me that people use Imgur as a social media site. Imgur to me is a place that hosts image to be used on other social media sites. Using imgur as a social media site is like using a url shortener as a social media site. What's next, Captcha becomes a social media hangout?
LogicalDrivel@sopuli.xyz · 52 pts · 259d
The amount of people making excuses for Nazis in this thread, is disgusting. Get fucked Nazi sympathizers. đ
Electricd@lemmybefree.net · 21 pts · 259d
Who?
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world · 21 pts · 259d
Idk, man, but its a statement that gets you upvotes.
aesthelete@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 259d
Great thread for adding to your blocklist.
birdwing@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 6 pts · 259d
This but unironically. Screw Nazis.
aesthelete@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 259d
Oh, I didn't mean it ironically at all.
thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 258d
Remove the "ympathizers" and the space before
Nazi sympathizers are Nazis
abbadon420@sh.itjust.works · -11 pts · 259d
To be fair, they do make a good drinks (jagermeister)
Dogiedog64@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 259d
Yes, this one right here, Democracy Officer.
abbadon420@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 259d
Excuse me, I am not a nazi! I'm just holding this uniform for a friend.
BigMacHole@sopuli.xyz · 51 pts · 259d
Just because I have a Nazi tattoo and go to Nazi rallies and think ALL Jews and Minorities should die DOESNT make Me a NAZI! In FACT it makes YOU a Nazi!
-Republicans!
the_riviera_kid@lemmy.world · 40 pts · 259d
"what kicked it off?" gestures broadly at everything
StupidBrotherInLaw@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 259d
I'd say it all started in the late 1960s with Nixon's implementation of the southern strategy. What we're seeing today is the resultant avalanche of American fascism, appropriately composed of fragile white snowflakes.
Soggy@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 259d
Well it started with a genocidal colonial project. Then it started with the repression of class revolts like Bacon's Rebellion. Then it started with the framing of a union of states that gave extra representation to rural slave-owners because their economic production was important. But it all started when those rural slave-owners wanted to make sure that new territorial expansions (remember, genocidal colonial project) also allowed slavery. Later it started when Lincoln was assassinated and his successor, Andrew Johnson, gave up on Reconstruction so the seditious slave-owning traitors weren't held accountable for the sedition or slavery and were allowed back into seats of political power.
daannii@lemmy.world · 33 pts · 259d
A lot of reddit users, especially those who have recently been permabanned due to the great censorship purge, are just hanging out there now. Not much censorship.
It's super antifa. I scroll there a lot when I'm in a meme mood.
I'd say it started going hard political around the same time as everything else. February 2025.
drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world · 33 pts · 259d
kind of wish we would stop letting them have Nordic runes.
melsaskca@lemmy.ca · 32 pts · 259d
When faced with a difficult decision, Elon always does what's reich.
tetris11@feddit.uk · 12 pts · 259d
are you proud of that comment, cos I am
Arctic_monkey@leminal.space · 29 pts · 259d
Wait, how is "not equal to" a Nazi symbol?
_stranger_@lemmy.world · 24 pts · 259d
You know what? I don't care what kicked it off. I don't care if it's a billionaire paying for bots. I'm just glad that the kind of people that get programmed by social media to vote for horrible shit might finally get programmed to do some good for a change.
SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 23 pts · 260d
I don't know, but I'm gonna take a wild guess and say some Nazis pissed some people off... As they do.
brownsugga@lemmy.world · 22 pts · 259d
Also arenât the tattoos on the Secretary of War ^TM^ neo-nazi?
sparkles@piefed.zip · 20 pts · 259d
T00l_shed@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 259d
One of the reasons I left, they were banning accounts that posted the nazi asshat getting punched. It was also broadly pro Ukraine, and apparently Ukraine was geolocked from imgur, but not russia
sparkles@piefed.zip · 3 pts · 259d
adry@piefed.social · 18 pts · 259d
they could be spamming that webcomic that explains "the paradox of tolerance" by k. popper ;) it would be very fitting to the ongoing situation.
adry@piefed.social · 47 pts · 259d
PS. I couldn't find a cleaner, high res. version and pictoline.com (listed there at the source) only has it in spanish. To make things even worse, there are many edited versions that replace nazis with other ideologies :/ f* the volatility of the internet... Oh. gotta search the internet archive... yeah, nope... not there either. Anyone can find a better version or knows the original source to this? else shall we try upscaling this JPG?
arararagi@ani.social · 10 pts · 259d
Ironically found a bigger version on twitter of all places.
USSEthernet@startrek.website · 18 pts · 259d
Stop using the fucking service! I'm so sick of people complaining about all of these tech companies, but they continue to use it. People need to realize they have an addiction issue and treat that shit.
retype@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 259d
Any idea whether imgur is still allowing advertising from AfD? I ended up migrating away from them because of that and haven't been back.
indomara@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 259d
I remember they made a statement about it and I think they stopped.
Visstix@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 259d
Good on them
pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 15 pts · 259d
They might be using the wrong swastika but I get the sentiment
palordrolap@fedia.io · 5 pts · 259d
Explain please. All the ones I see in the image are shaped like four adjoined letter L's which is the same way around that the Nazis used. Or are you referring to the fact that most of them aren't stood on a corner, diamond-wise?
facelessbs@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 259d
pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 259d
I totally forgot it's also mirrored. Thanks for pulling it up
turmacar@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 259d
Yes and no. The one the Nazis used was / is also a symbol used in Asia. (And really, everywhere. It's a fairly basic pattern.) The Nazis used it because of their obsession with Aryans. Sometimes it's at an angle, sometimes it's not.
Generally in the west, unless it's on a statue of budda, any swastika-ish symbol since the ~1930s is going to be a reference to Nazis though.
Numuruzero@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 259d
I reckon it's the latter, I noticed it too. Nazis are the only ones who use it tilted like that, as far as I know.
PapaStevesy@lemmy.world · -2 pts · 259d
Let's be real here, they're the only ones that use it at all anymore.
SreudianFlip@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 259d
You know, the subcontinent has around a billion people on it? Who see it scattered all around, for thousands of years.
OldChicoAle@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 259d
Every Hindu and many Buddhists disagree. Way to just ignore almost a billion people dude. The world isn't just the west.
ristoril_zip@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 259d
see it's interesting to me because I thought it was the way it looks like it should spin that matters, with the Buddhist one looking like it should spin clockwise and the Nazi one looking like it should spin counter clockwise. Is it the 45 degree tilt that makes the big difference?
YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today · 4 pts · 259d
It's the direction the legs go. Nazis mirrored the eastern one and then tilted it 45°.
Venat0r@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 259d
Its used both ć or ć ways in different non-nazi examples: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swastika
Plenty of modern nazis don't know how to draw it though, so you can never be sure...
GreenKnight23@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 259d
antifa made those to make us look stupid!
/s
YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 259d
This is glorious. Fucking idiots
unphazed@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 258d
Well yeah, one has to think to feel empathy and compassion. It's easy to hate, place blame and ignore responsibility. I am all for peace and equal treatment, but those who refuse tolerability must be stopped.
YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 258d
John Browning intensifies.
Korhaka@sopuli.xyz · 14 pts · 259d
People still using imgur?
Bongles@lemmy.zip · 12 pts · 259d
People are still using reddit and Twitter, of course they're still using imgur.
Imgur also has an interesting niche that isn't covered by alternatives yet.
Korhaka@sopuli.xyz · 2 pts · 259d
I don't really notice that many people using it tbh, they blocked the UK rather than comply with child data protection laws and its not that often I see failed to load imgur pictures. It happens, but the vast majority of images are fine.
DylanMc6@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 259d
we need imgbox
Mwa@thelemmy.club · 12 pts · 258d
based
starlinguk@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 259d
The top right picture needs "HH" added to it. It's what people use on license plates. Used to be banned in Germany, but I saw one yesterday so I think My Little Nazi has unbanned it.
taguebbe@feddit.org · 18 pts · 259d
It's the city-code for Hamburg "Hansestadt Hamburg -> HH".
starlinguk@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 258d
Nope. I mean, yes, it is, but the one I saw yesterday had a Freiburg code (FR) and then HH.
Sidyctism2@discuss.tchncs.de · 1 pts · 259d
Especially funny because hamburg is a pretty leftist city
DylanMc6@lemmy.ml · 0 pts · 259d
should've been "hb" (stands for hamburg). seriously!
Sidyctism2@discuss.tchncs.de · 3 pts · 259d
Already taken by Hansestadt Bremen
DylanMc6@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 259d
maybe "HSH" (Hansestadt Hamburg)?
dubyakay@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 258d
The plates are limited to 2 letters only for the state/province. The reason Bremen, Hamburg and LĂŒbeck have their own province code is due to their provincial level city status retained from the middle ages.
frizzo@piefed.social · -1 pts · 259d
Don't even try with the smooth brains bro these people are not ready to be unplugged.
starlinguk@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 258d
The local codes are FR, MĂŒL and Lö. This guy's licence plate was FR HH and then the number.
I'd assumed y'all would be smart enough to figure out I didn't mean the first two letters but I suppose I was wrong.
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 0 pts · 259d
Are you suggesting that 88, which literally stands for HH isn't a thing?
ayyy@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 259d
No, when did they do that?
dubyakay@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 258d
Since at least 2006, possibly earlier.
frizzo@piefed.social · 1 pts · 257d
You realize you are the reason that the "r" word is back right? Remember when your ilk thought the "ok" symbol was a Nazi symbol? Please just get it over with and become neighbors with Tarantino permanently.
Kolanaki@pawb.social · 6 pts · 259d
Wild. I saw a car here in California just the other day with an odd looking plate on some old dude's hotrod that had a little "HH" off to one side that, here, just means it's a historical vehicle used in classic car shows.
three@lemmy.zip · 9 pts · 260d
I wonder if it's the rise of nazism...?
starlinguk@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 259d
Let's call a spade a spade. It's Nazism.
debil@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 258d
What's the deal with the grid symbol? The "hashtag" with extra lines?
nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 6 pts · 259d
take that, nazis
zebidiah@lemmy.ca · 5 pts · 259d
This sort of things seems to happen on Imgur at least once a month....
nil@piefed.ca · 5 pts · 259d
nice
Zoldyck@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 260d
What's going on there?
Endymion_Mallorn@kbin.melroy.org · 4 pts · 259d
We need to take back the Thorn. Too many things are written as Ye in fake middle English (or fake early modern) which should be written with the thorn!
irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 259d
https://rimgo.fsky.io/
umbrellacloud@leminal.space · 2 pts · 259d
DylanMc6@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 259d
use imgbox, everyone
zr0@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 259d
falseWhite@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 259d
Dozzi92@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 259d
Fuck, 92 really?
Nomorereddit@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 259d
Meet the people who decide if you are a nazi: https://youtu.be/LXcHL2K-RSg
magnolia_mayhem@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 257d
I don't get it. They clearly have a left leaning base. Why throw that away?
Allah@piefed.world · -1 pts · 256d
astroturfing
DylanMc6@lemmy.ml · -2 pts · 259d
hey i'm thinking about studying on marxism-leninism (and variations therein). is there any way i can study in layman's terms without losing focus quickly, and is there also any way i can encourage myself to study on ml?
arararagi@ani.social · -3 pts · 259d
Did Trump said he was a nazi or something? What's with these companies and tolerating them?
Quill7513@slrpnk.net · 3 pts · 259d
a company has no moral guiding principals outside of monetary gain. its board of directors members may have their own individual viewpoints, but as a collective, a corporation is representative only of the shareholder's shared interest in making some money. if they wanted anything else, they would collectivize into another form.
generally speaking the best, i mean the best, you can expect from a BoD member is liberalism and all that entails. from a liberal perspective, pacifism is a virtue to be signaled, not an overall approach to the world with a goal of bringing about a just and fair society. liberals preaching non-violence don't really care if someone is preaching violence so long as they don't practice violence and the results of the preaching of violence remain unseen.
that's how you wind up with liberals saying that the founder of turning point usa did things the right way and denouncing someone doing exactly the things he said were good to do, but moreover, denouncing people who have trained in violence accessing that violence in self defense. in the fight between fascism and anything other than fascism, violence must be used to denounce fascism because it is the only language fascists speak. you can use non-violence to interact with other political positions. those are positions who do not practice solely violence. but fascism believes access to violence grants license to use that violence. you can only counter this belief by rendering it scared to show itself in public
Jimjim@lemmy.world · -7 pts · 258d
Sam_Bass@lemmy.world · -17 pts · 259d
Heh. Propaganda hits both ways, sunshine
ryannathans@aussie.zone · -30 pts · 259d
The spam bots are out in full force. I have seen this spam everywhere I browse, in so many flavours and forms it's exhausting
ayyy@sh.itjust.works · 7 pts · 259d
Or perhaps there are really a lot of people who really hate Nazis? Is that a far-fetched idea to you?
uncouple9831@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 259d
DylanMc6@lemmy.ml · 0 pts · 259d
are you a sh*tlib?
doingthestuff@lemy.lol · -45 pts · 259d
At this point I don't even know what a Nazi is anymore.
Nemo@slrpnk.net · 21 pts · 259d
That's a problem you should fix.
luciferofastora@feddit.org · 12 pts · 259d
Well, if they wear the flag, display the Swastika, do the salute or go on about white supremacy, that's a pretty solid hint.
A Nazi is (originally) a particular brand of fascism, but much like champagne, it has become a generic term for the whole family of ideologies. The "ur-fascist" definition by Umberto Eco, who was witness to the fascist regime of Mussolini, highlights a few key traits if fascist ideology like a cult of tradition, emphasis on machismo and action over thought, obedience over independence, contempt for pacifism and weakness and populism that leverages frustrations, conspiracy theories and fears to rally its followers against some perceived enemy.
Not every trait is fascist on its own, but neither does some movement need to tick all boxes to be fascist. There's sure to be some grey area, but if you have people rushing to inflict violence on anyone looking differently, spurred on by a guy promising to restore some ambiguous past glory by blaming the economic and social troubles on foreigners and beating the war drums... yeah, well, eventually the indicators start piling up.
thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 258d
By that definition, the US is fascist. Which it is.
luciferofastora@feddit.org · 2 pts · 258d
You'll get no argument from me ;-)
ameancow@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 259d
ayyy@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 259d
Wikipedia would probably be a good start then.
uncouple9831@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 259d
DylanMc6@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 259d
are you a sh*tlib?
Rekorse@sh.itjust.works · -51 pts · 259d
Turns out people on the "left" can be just as easily manipulated as those on the right. Surely its our own communities stoking violence between americans. Noone from outside the country could possibly want that for us, could they?
Why's it so easy to spot right wing propaganda but not left wing propaganda?
DomeGuy@lemmy.world · 26 pts · 259d
Because right-wing propaganda is "become Nazis, the left are all sub-humans" and the left wing propaganda is "what the fuck, the right are all Nazis!?"
It's hard to spot propaganda when it's just the truth spoken loudly.
Rekorse@sh.itjust.works · -10 pts · 259d
Its the same message flipped. Its just as bigoted and divisive. And its not coming from americans either, this is other countries citizens attempting to tear america apart so it stops being a blight on the world. Hard to blame them, but we shouldnt be so naive.
DomeGuy@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 259d
The same folks sending "the left are subhuman!" to the right aren't also sending "the right are Nazis!" to the left. That would be a duplicate signal and inefficient.
Instead, they're sending "both sides suck" to the middle.
MissJinx@lemmy.world · 23 pts · 259d
I'm not american so excuse my ignorance but are you defending nazis?
Rekorse@sh.itjust.works · -9 pts · 259d
I'm pointing out that non-americans like to point the right at the left calling them violent antifa, while they do the same with the left by calling those on the right Nazis. Then Americans think the posters are also american and get angry at americans for it.
Its simple manipulation, cause my enemies to fight amongst themselves.
MissJinx@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 259d
I don't even now what antifa is lol
thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 258d
Antifa is anti-fascism. It's illegal in the US. Yes, really. An executive order by Trump labels "Antifa" as a terrorist organisation despite it not being an organization, but a name for anti-fascism. Official announcement: https://www.whitehouse.gov/fact-sheets/2025/09/fact-sheet-president-donald-j-trump-designates-antifa-as-a-domestic-terrorist-organization/
Assassassin@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 23 pts · 259d
Left wing propaganda is.... Being explicitly anti Nazi? Bro, I think you might be a Nazi if this offends you.
InputZero@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 259d
'The only good Nazi is a dead Nazi' isn't left-wing propaganda, it's what my grandfathers taught me. Those men were definitely not "Left-wing" lol!
PapaStevesy@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 259d
What would you prefer for your new user tag, Offended by Anti-Nazi Memes or Swastika Fan?
Rekorse@sh.itjust.works · -8 pts · 259d
While not true, swastika fan made me laugh so I choose that one.
PapaStevesy@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 258d
Too late, it's the first one.
Rekorse@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 258d
:(
webadict@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 259d
Did somebody get theiw feewings huwt?
Fuck Nazis, I hope they all get the Nazi punched out of them.
ayyy@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 259d
Can you elaborate on your point? What is the propaganda here? Who are the foreign actors?
uncouple9831@lemmy.zip · 6 pts · 259d
MightyThistle@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 258d
Being anti-Nazi isn't propaganda any more than being anti-genocide is propaganda. Being anti-Nazi and anti-genocide means you're a normal and reasonable person. I'll happily rebel against systems which are corrupt.
Rekorse@sh.itjust.works · -1 pts · 258d
Promoting the labeling of large groups of people you have never met as Nazis, and then promoting violence against them, is a fantastic example of propaganda designed to create conflict and distrust amongst a community.
Shouldnt be so hard to see, I'm not sure why lemmy users are so susceptible to this type of manipulation.
MightyThistle@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 258d
I don't have to meet a Nazi to know they're a Nazi. Just as I don't need to personally meet a cobra to know that what I'm looking at is a venomous snake belonging to the genus Naja.
You just described Nazi ideology
Rekorse@sh.itjust.works · 0 pts · 258d
No you.
NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 258d
Would you have tried to feed this kind of hogcock to the victims of the holocaust as it was happening? Was everyone hating Nazis when they called themselves Nazis just a victim of leftists propaganda?
How many bites do you take of a shit sandwich before you know what youâre eating?
Rekorse@sh.itjust.works · -1 pts · 258d
Sounds like the propaganda has been effective with you. I literally see no difference between you and a racist maga supporter. Both are simple, impulsive, and violent. None of those things are what make a good american.
NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 258d
Fuck, that is such a boring god damned rhetoric to hear at this point, grow a spine.
Rekorse@sh.itjust.works · 0 pts · 257d
Guess being a decent person is boring.
NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 257d
Donât break an arm jerking yourself off, there.
DylanMc6@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 259d
that's rich coming from a jackson hinkle supporter. seriously!
Rekorse@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 259d
What's a Jackson Hinkle?
DylanMc6@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 259d
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jackson_Hinkle
oh and this is my 320th comment here on this lemmy instance. seriously!