Donald Trump announces plans to hit the UK, Denmark and other European countries with a 10% tariff on "all or any goods" exported to the US from 1 February
In a post on Truth Social, the US president says these will remain in place until "such time as a Deal is reached for the Complete and Total purchase of Greenland"
181 Comments
Critical_Drinking@lemmy.world · 208 pts · 212d
The truths in the Epstein Files must be devastating when the tangerine turd tries so hard to distract from them.
axh@lemmy.world · 222 pts · 212d
It's like saying Hitler attacked Poland and organised holocaust just to distract the German public... No, at some point you guys need to admit it, the guy is a power hungry lunatic.
MonsterMonster@lemmy.world · 110 pts · 212d
... who just happens to associate with the known pedophile Jeffrey Epstein.
wewbull@feddit.uk · 65 pts · 212d
Doesn't matter if it's power over girls or countries.... power hungry is power hungry.
Xanthobilly@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 211d
Los dos, my people.
U7826391786239@lemmy.zip · 35 pts · 212d
snooggums@piefed.world · 29 pts · 212d
He is, but the Epstein files is the one thing his base has actually reacted to with possibly disgust. They are fine with literally everything else he does.
So this is a case of him being a power hungry fuck that also works well to distract from the one thing that might cause consequences. It can be two things.
CXORA@aussie.zone · 8 pts · 211d
If there's one thing his base are good at it is ignoring the truth. I seriously doubt they would believe the content of the Epstein files to be true, even if Donald Trump directly said they were.
bold_atlas@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 211d
Jealousy. Not disgust.
tehsillz@lemmy.world · 22 pts · 212d
Hitler was actually clear from the start about making Germany great again and immigrants, foreigners and jews being 'undesirable'. Oh wait.
Jaberw0cky@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 211d
tehsillz@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 211d
It wasn't just the jews.. The Nuremberg laws also included "Gypsies, Negroes, and their bastards".
Enkrod@feddit.org · 1 pts · 211d
As well as LGBTQ+ and the political left.
Aljernon@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 211d
Weeeeeelll, the Nazis had illegally taken out a bunch of loans and hidden that fact with financial trickery. That's how they managed to pay for rearmament. All those loans were coming due, the Nazis couldn't pay and didn't want to admit what they'd done so yeah, they invaded Poland. I mean, it wasn't purely distraction, they also hoped to seize gold and foreign currency in Polish possession but distraction was a huge part of it.
bold_atlas@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 211d
Back when debt was something to reckon with instead of just being a an infinite money exploit for trillionaire speedruns.
JasonDJ@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 212d
Eventually we'll find out both Hitler and Churchill are in the Epstein files.
DaMummy@hilariouschaos.com · 2 pts · 211d
Between the Haavara Agreement and all that crap with Prince Andrew, I honestly wouldn't be surprised.
breezeblock@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 212d
Why not both?
clot27@lemmy.zip · 0 pts · 211d
Not the guy but vast majority of americans are lunatics
WanderingThoughts@europe.pub · 18 pts · 212d
Rename Greenland to Epsteinland and watch trump never mention it again.
natecox@programming.dev · 12 pts · 212d
If any of this audio is true it’s way way more damning than I imagined: https://lisevoldeng.substack.com/p/dont-worry-boys-are-hard-to-find
tehsillz@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 212d
he's willing to cause a civil war AND a world war over it, lol. makes me wonder who Bubba is.
DaMummy@hilariouschaos.com · 5 pts · 211d
Bill Clinton's nickname was Bubba, Ghislaine Maxwell's horse was also named Bubba.
designated_fridge@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 212d
I think Trump is just obsessed with the thought of having the legacy of expanding US' borders. I bet he thinks all scandals will be forgotten but you can't forget how the territory was expanded.
ThePantser@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 212d
We remember, hundreds of years later, we remember. We tore down monuments to them, we will tear down those you erect for yourself even faster.
smeenz@lemmy.nz · 3 pts · 211d
Trying to impress putin
snooggums@piefed.world · 5 pts · 212d
Honestly it would be great if the other countries released whatever they have on Epstein and Trump. The UK at a minimum has to have a ton of dirt hidden away from when that ghoul in the royal family got publicly shamed fo it.
Not Russia because they can't be trusted of course.
SpicyTaint@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 212d
forrgott@lemmy.zip · 6 pts · 212d
Mango Mussolini is still my fav
TrippaSnippa@aussie.zone · 1 pts · 211d
Cheeto Benito
MonsterMonster@lemmy.world · 117 pts · 212d
This man's stupidity has no boundaries.
"Donald Trump, who says on Truth Social that the US has subsidised Denmark and the European Union for many years by not charging them tariffs.”
the_q@lemmy.zip · 43 pts · 212d
deHaga@feddit.uk · 54 pts · 212d
Tariffs are taxes on the importer, not the exporter. They are taxing themselves
running_ragged@lemmy.world · 23 pts · 212d
By making the American poor people pay them, they transfer more wealth to the captital class by contracting out jobs to their buddies. Also, it huts sales for the exporters, so its win win for him.
tomiant@piefed.social · 2 pts · 211d
Capitalism doesn't scale well with democracy.
ccunning@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 212d
They are a de facto consumption tax which disproportionately affect the less well off.
tomiant@piefed.social · 2 pts · 211d
Impose tarrifs. Crash businesses. Buy up businesses. Lift tarrifs. Profit.
U7826391786239@lemmy.zip · 34 pts · 212d
Greg@discuss.tchncs.de · 9 pts · 212d
Exactly
breezeblock@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 212d
fyrilsol@kbin.melroy.org · -11 pts · 212d
the_q@lemmy.zip · 16 pts · 212d
arrow74@lemmy.zip · 9 pts · 211d
Gotta love when you get personal hate mail
the_q@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 211d
samus12345@sh.itjust.works · 7 pts · 211d
Thanks for posting that, they're blocked.
AmidFuror@fedia.io · 7 pts · 212d
"apart" has almost an opposite meaning to "a part" in this context, though "apart from" would make more sense than "apart of."
fyrilsol@kbin.melroy.org · -22 pts · 212d
stephen01king@piefed.zip · 7 pts · 211d
Seems like you're a part of it, unfortunately.
AmidFuror@fedia.io · 2 pts · 210d
I see what you did there.
fyrilsol@kbin.melroy.org · -1 pts · 211d
stephen01king@piefed.zip · 1 pts · 211d
I didn't say you did.
SreudianFlip@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 211d
Types out the opposite of what they meant
Gets corrected and has a tantrum
...calls antifascists nazis
Hmmmmm
Meron35@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 211d
This is legitimately what the conservatives believe, that the EU is "free riding" on bailouts by the US.
filister@lemmy.world · 102 pts · 211d
Block their service sector from the EU market. Boycott US products. And see how they will fare. It is about time we take a firm stance and show this demented idiot, that he cannot bully us.
IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world · 58 pts · 211d
how is that even need to be suggested. the US have threatened the EU, with a literal invasion. getting rid of US technology is a matter of basic national defense!!! also evicting all US military bases!!!
Kkk2237pl@lemmy.world · 24 pts · 211d
In the meantime my government company just announced that will be using Copilot… fucking sad
IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 211d
Unabashed idiots.
hiding the head in the sand, pretending everything is normal
huppakee@piefed.social · 7 pts · 211d
Ask copilot:
Paste this into Copilot, let it generate the email, then give the output a quick sanity check before you press send all. Who knows, maybe you'll start a riot. Worst case you have to find a new job (/s).
Broken_Window@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 211d
Kkk2237pl@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 211d
Thats nothing, some Polish politicians simp to usa. Idk why 🤷
iknowitwheniseeit@lemmynsfw.com · 7 pts · 211d
The US military bases are actually filled with thousands of soldiers that will be imprisoned if the US invades. If we see a large pullout from European bases then we know shit is about to go down.
IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 211d
when the US is threatening an invasion, that's when you know shit is about to do down. what you're suggesting if hiding your head in the sand and lubing your ass in preparation
iknowitwheniseeit@lemmynsfw.com · 0 pts · 211d
I'm not suggesting doing nothing. But getting rid of American bases on European soil will make Europe more vulnerable to US attacks, not more.
IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 210d
I'm sorry, but I think that must be the stupidest thing I've ever read.
if we remove the cancer from the patient, the cancer will be worse, better leave it alone to appease it.
if you evict your violent abusive partner, you will be in more danger, better stay and appease them.
you have a fucking imperialist foreign fascist army that has been threatening an invasion for months. and you're solution is licking their boots?
redlemace@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 211d
We sure need to double up on cutting loose from data storage at microslop, google, apple amazon etc. I'm not to worried about apps/software. As long as we have your data, we'll figure it out.
Renohren@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 211d
It won't happen.trump isn't the only one to always chicken out. Brussels is quite a reference in that game.
0ndead@infosec.pub · 87 pts · 212d
Trump again plays the dumbest card available
N0t_5ure@lemmy.world · 55 pts · 212d
He's redefining the phrase "playing the Trump Card" to mean the worst possible thing you can do.
v_krishna@lemmy.ml · 12 pts · 212d
It's ruined euchre for me
N0t_5ure@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 212d
Thanks, Obama!
iamthetot@piefed.ca · 2 pts · 211d
Would unironically be the funniest way to cement his legacy.
Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de · 81 pts · 212d
So can we (i.e. Europe) finally stop appeasing him? Full on trade war? We know he eventually backs down, he's show it with China.
I liked central bank people supporting Powell recently, that felt like a step in the right direction. (First time anyone from Switzerland, my country, has shown any balls anyway.)
LordOfLocksley@lemmy.world · 31 pts · 211d
1000% tariff on all American goods.
1000000% increase on taxation for American tech companies
chuck@lemmy.ca · 66 pts · 211d
The real solution is to invalidate US copyright in European territories. Also listen to Doctorow and throw out the dcma like laws and blow out the monopoly on tech the us has enjoyed.
LordOfLocksley@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 211d
That's a nice idea
huppakee@piefed.social · 5 pts · 211d
Tarifs hurt European individuals much more then American companies and politicians, more effective might be to answer with a different 'weapon' such as doubling down on protecting consumers against mining user data and double time ending our dependency on US technology.
If we can't beat them when it comes to hard power, we have to leverage our soft power.
We need to isolate the US regime like we (the west) isolate Iran and North-Korea. Trump is making a lot of enemies, we need to win those to our side (the ones that follow the rule of law i mean, not the other fascists).
Once we win that fight, we should come together and find a way to free the US' citizens from the evil that took over their country.
redlemace@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 211d
The enemy of my enemy is my friend
the_q@lemmy.zip · 6 pts · 211d
architect@thelemmy.club · 3 pts · 211d
Right. Everybody’s shitty fucking country has been giving intelligence to the US government and vice versa. This pitting everyone against Americans is yet another example of the class war playing out.
SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org · 71 pts · 211d
Oh, no. The Americans are taxing themselves again to own the libs
lando55@lemmy.zip · 10 pts · 211d
Tariff the libs to spiderface
TheFeatureCreature@lemmy.ca · 65 pts · 212d
No country ever in the history of trade itself would ever give up land or risk war over a 10% tariff.
In fact, 10% is pretty pathetic even compared to Trump's other tariffs. I'm wondering if this is his way of pretending to care about Greenland while not actually doing anything majorly impactful.
boonhet@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 210d
Can't fuck with Denmark and lose access to legos, hence 10%
SapphironZA@sh.itjust.works · 59 pts · 211d
Translation:
Trump is raising taxes on Americans so he can
shittydwarf@piefed.social · 56 pts · 212d
So his response is to tax Americans, 3d chess right there
wewbull@feddit.uk · 26 pts · 212d
More like 1D. The only tools he knows are tariffs and troops.
MagnificentSteiner@lemmy.zip · 12 pts · 212d
1 tiny D
huppakee@piefed.social · 8 pts · 212d
He also knows CAPS LOCK.
pachrist@lemmy.world · 46 pts · 211d
OK.
iglou@programming.dev · 4 pts · 211d
Yep. And at this point, any EU company who hasn't made steps towards not relying on the US market deserves the shitstorm coming their way
phoenixz@lemmy.ca · 38 pts · 212d
Sooooooo
When exactly is the entire world going to realize that negotiating ANYTHING with the Cheetos monkey is absolutely useless as he'll just break any agreement whenever he wants?
Give him a finger and he'll go for your hand.ngive him your hand and he'll want your arm
It will never stop untill the entire world goes against him, united. Put up an economic blockade. No more trading with the US, at all, until their entire government has been replaced and overhauled, no more presidents
Yeah, that will be very painful for everyone, I'm sure, but in the lonrun it'll be worse continuing whatever the fuck this is
If Europe, Asia, Africa, Latin America and Canada can join together in blocking trade with this asshole, he will be fucked
Renohren@lemmy.today · 5 pts · 211d
This is natural, but those in power are under a delusion: there will be a change at the mid-terms and then the next presidential election. The same one they had with Trump's first presidency.
It's bonkers how they never learn and how much they seem convinced that there will be mid-terms and a next presidency when everything points to a slow but constant regime change.
plz1@lemmy.world · 38 pts · 211d
Wait, does Trump just want a bigger pedophile island than his buddy Epstein had?
Sektor@lemmy.world · -9 pts · 211d
Ah, the irony jokers, i remember when they won ww2 with their wit.
sparky@lemmy.federate.cc · 34 pts · 211d
Not sure we care anymore, since the free trade agreement between EU and Mercosur was signed today. We don’t really need to trade with the US anymore. South America provides a huge export market for our products, and they supply better quality agricultural imports than the US can anyway.
hanrahan@slrpnk.net · 14 pts · 211d
As an Australian I am hoping this fastrackts the Australian one with the EI but our government is so far up the US's arse, possibly were getting pressure from the US not to.
Anything that brings the world closer together is a good thing!
https://thenightly.com.au/australia/how-australians-could-soon-live-and-work-in-eu-freely-under-long-awaited-trade-deal-c-21312701
nlgranger@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 211d
I don't know for UK, but I'd reckon most of the commercial deficit in EU wrt USA is gas, not food.
matlag@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 211d
Time to thank all politicians in Europe who were reluctant to decarbonate the economy because it's bAd fOr bUsInEsS.
Today we count how much money they're sending Russia by buying gas vs Ukraine by providing military equipment. All good for the business I guess.
Today we assess how dependent on US gas the EU is in time of crisis. All good for the business too, I guess.
In this context, rolling back the ban on gas cars in 2035 is another great geopolitical move that will guarantee EU's future amidst international tension and resources depletion (oil extraction is to drop by half from 2030 to 2050, and that means producers will slow exportations and use is primarily for their internal needs).
nlgranger@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 210d
Exactly, think of all the billions that have been spent to subsidize renewable energy instead of building insulation, public transport, heat pumps, etc. The net balance would have been better (more energy saved than supply increased) and it would have shifted the mix from fossil to electricity more.
sunbytes@lemmy.world · 33 pts · 211d
How's that policy of appeasement and boot-licking going now, Kier?
Starmer really thought that being a doormat for the playground bully meant he would get to keep his lunch money.
M0oP0o@mander.xyz · 6 pts · 211d
I am still shocked that the party in power is not some ultra conservative one with the way that government administration is operating in the UK.
sunbytes@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 211d
Well short of a coup or government collapse/dissolution, we've got to wait for an election.
We've got to hope Polanski and Sultana have got their feet underneath them by then.
M0oP0o@mander.xyz · 1 pts · 211d
As an outsider, am I crazy for thinking the leaders of the smaller more "extreme" parties like Sinn Féin or the SNP keep sounding more reasonable?
sunbytes@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 210d
More reasonable than who?
The older parties might be done with for now. Labour and Conservative.
SNP isn't that extreme. It's actually very very popular in Scotland.
I guess if that part of the problem with calling things extreme is that if you're extremely far from centre yourself, the centrists sound extreme. So it's a little hard to answer your question.
The 'challenger' parties like Green, "Your Party" and Reform are very popular, especially with the young and the poor.
I think a lot of people expect them to take a lot of local seats and councils in the next few years.
And while Reform has been dragging Labour to the right (with not a lot of protest from Kier, I think), some of these new leftist parties will hopefully drag him back to at least the centre. Just though influencing the soulless polling he seems to use to decide what he cares about in any given month.
M0oP0o@mander.xyz · 1 pts · 210d
More reasonable then labor for sure, I was shocked to see them go authoritarian like they have. At least there is some other parties to move support to that seem to understand that cracking down on the population is somewhat unpopular. Here in Canada we have seemed to ruined all the options on reasonable parties so at least hearing there is traction with new parties gives me some hope.
Samuelwankenobi@sh.itjust.works · 30 pts · 211d
Alright I just won't buy stuff from America like I already have been for like the last 11 months
Nikelui@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 211d
It's the other way, tariffs on import to the US.
M0oP0o@mander.xyz · 19 pts · 211d
Ok, I will continue to not sell goods to the states then.
Nikelui@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 211d
No, no, that's the point. You should sell them even more (at a higher price).
M0oP0o@mander.xyz · 2 pts · 211d
? why would someone do that, we don't get those tariffs.
Hell why would any non us entity want to give money in any way to trump?
Nikelui@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 211d
So that they get so deep into recession that they cannot lie their way out of it? But you make a valid counterpoint.
iglou@programming.dev · 9 pts · 211d
For now. Let's hope EU leadership has grown a spine since last time :)))
kent_eh@lemmy.ca · 6 pts · 211d
There have been some reports in the last 48 hours that they are talking about scrapping the trade deal with the US (rather than ratifying it as they had been scheduled to do).
It would be a reasonable move, especially since Trump never honours his agreements anyway.
EvilCartyen@feddit.dk · 29 pts · 212d
This is an attack on the EU and must be met by action by the EU. Start selling off US bonds Monday.
gigachad@piefed.social · 5 pts · 212d
Sadly, it's more likely that Ursula will answer with a "only 20% tariff deal"...
smeg@infosec.pub · 27 pts · 212d
Europe gave into Trump's tariff demands last year and now he's demanding more with the same ploy. Trump will keep using this tactic until we have nothing left. Making concessions with psychopaths is a road to complete slavery.
Jaberw0cky@lemmy.world · 22 pts · 211d
kent_eh@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 211d
It's more than "one man", even though he is a major contributor to the chaos.
There are a lot of other horrble people standing in the shadows pulling Trump's puppet strings.
vpol@feddit.uk · 21 pts · 212d
Carpet ban on US/foreign tech in the EU/UK. With per-company issued licences afterwards.
Hubi@feddit.org · 9 pts · 212d
Social media specifically. This would be a major pain for the US.
gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de · 7 pts · 211d
perfect time to advertise the fediverse software :)
Hubi@feddit.org · 2 pts · 211d
I would if I still had a reddit account.
RedditRefugee69@lemmynsfw.com · 1 pts · 211d
Rumor has it they just delete your account if you do that. Nobody even sees that you mentioned Lemmy but the admins.
EndOfLine@lemmy.world · 21 pts · 212d
Taxing Americans because other countries don't support his dementia fueled fever dreams of conquest. Yup, that'll teach 'em.
ironhydroxide@sh.itjust.works · 20 pts · 211d
I hate how every news article about tariffs implies that the country is the one being damaged by this. When in reality it's the us citizens being damaged.
Should read "Trump threatens us citizens with tariff on Greenland..."
cosmicrookie@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 211d
The countries are indeed damaged because of it but not even close to as bad as it hurts the US population
kandoh@reddthat.com · 20 pts · 211d
I'm absolutely certain he's dying and thinks he can make the legacy he leaves behind 'America was at it's territorial height under President Trump' instead of 'Donald Trump lied, cheated, and stole his way into the US presidency, thus weakening America forever'
kent_eh@lemmy.ca · 19 pts · 211d
Don't give me hope like that.
phoenixz@lemmy.ca · 6 pts · 211d
Technically, we all are dying,it's just a matter of how long it will take.
In the Cheetos case, I am hoping it'll be less than a year left
ashar@infosec.pub · 3 pts · 210d
Oh, but I bet his successor will be worse
kandoh@reddthat.com · 1 pts · 210d
Absolutely
Mangoholic@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 210d
His legacy will be that of the pedo rapist president who throws tantrums.
aceshigh@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 211d
Didn’t he say something about this being his last Christmas or am I misremembering?
kandoh@reddthat.com · 1 pts · 211d
He's been talking about dying a lot, which sort of keys us in on what's on his mind since he has zero filter
varnia@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 19 pts · 212d
Europe cannot cut ties with this shit country faster. How is this lunatic still in charge? This is incomprehensible!
HexesofVexes@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 211d
Sounds to me like the UK should just drop all the agreements it made to avoid tariffs and give trumpler a solid kick in the balls.
creepystephenscreepiestdoll@lemmynsfw.com · 18 pts · 211d
That should read, Trump plans to punish Americans by adding taxes on trade with countries unwilling to abide by his tantrums
TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.zip · 18 pts · 211d
Do 100% once and for all and fuck off to your shitty corner of the globe
mrmaplebar@fedia.io · 18 pts · 212d
Europe needs to be more forceful against Trump and the United States. The constant appeasement and coddling isn't working.
Ban US social media, tax US products (including software and subscriptions), tell my government that if the want Greenland they should be willing to trade California. I beg you guys, please fucking retaliate against this guy while you still can.
lemmydividebyzero@reddthat.com · 16 pts · 211d
The pedophile protector has done whaaaaat?
phoenixz@lemmy.ca · 15 pts · 211d
I think that the US should be split into 50 new independent nations.
All the Republican led ones will slide into third world banana republic dictatorships that soon won't be able to feed their own population, bit that is their own problem. At least the rest of the nations can continue to develop into normal states where people have actual freedom
BanMe@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 211d
That's the Republican goal honestly, but they don't seem to understand the eventual ramifications. Without blue states to prop them up financially, what's going to happen? They get to be dictators of dirt piles. The poor folks who can't flee the state will stay and their lives will become hell. A few libertarians might move in, so they can start child prostitution ranches or whatever lights their fire. More or less anarchy, like dual authoritarian/libertarian path that Trump is laying out. Just... scary to think about. I'll have to abandon my beloved historic home in the South, but also, would be nice to not look at a homeless guy sleeping under cardboard a block away (it's 34* F) because these morons won't pass a single tax to improve things. Sigh.
super_user_do@feddit.it · 3 pts · 210d
We gotta launch a #FreeCalifornia hashtag or something
_Nico198X_@europe.pub · 15 pts · 212d
who tf cares? just stay the course and decouple from the US
lemmydividebyzero@reddthat.com · 15 pts · 211d
Just wait for the TACO effect to kick in...
Trump Always Chickens Out
JamBandFan1996@lemmy.ml · 14 pts · 211d
Mans dead set on ruining the American economy huh?
cmbabul@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 210d
Just the American economy!? The entire global order has been upended
El_guapazo@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 211d
Sanction how personal properties including golf courses, hotels, and other industries. It's the only language he understands
ClamDrinker@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 212d
A disgrace. This has to be fought or it will not end here.
reddig33@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 212d
Sigh. All this means is that these countries will stop buying goods from the US. Another smooth brained move from the dotard.
Tehbaz@lemmy.wtf · 10 pts · 211d
Every country who does not want to be a target for the US needs to urgently develop a nuclear arsenal with intercontinental delivery systems. The world is currently at the mercy of an 80 year old narcissistic toddler for the second time in less than 100 years, the only thing that will stop such a man is strength.
nforminvasion@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 210d
France and England have enough to be a deterrent. I think around 500 between the two of them. And France has like 200 on active deployment, I think because of Russia.
CircaV@lemmy.ca · 9 pts · 211d
Tarrif away shittler.
dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 9 pts · 211d
no taxation without representation is an anti trump slogan now
BigMacHole@sopuli.xyz · 8 pts · 212d
WOAH! What a HIGHLY Unexpected Move from our Master Negotiator President! And what a HIGHLY Unexpected Move from the EU to ALLOW Trump to have Greenland!*
*In a Couple Days!
andrewrgross@slrpnk.net · 1 pts · 211d
You make a point that I don't see often addressed:
If Denmark, Germany, and Co are serious, they'd be hitting way harder.
I honestly wouldn't be at all surprised if this works, and European leaders just say, 'Sorry folks! We really tried to stop him, but we just got outplayed again! He's too good!'
echodot@feddit.uk · 8 pts · 211d
Oh I see so now he's angry at everyone. Not that I think that America should be able to get Greenland but even if I did it's not as if say the UK or France has any say on the matter, so why are they being tariffed?
SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca · 16 pts · 211d
France, UK and most of Europe are part of NATO and in recent days have sent small military forces to Greenland to show that, unlike the US, they will honour their alliances.
Trump is trying to break NATO because it's what daddy Putin wants him to do.
TehWorld@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 211d
I really don’t think that Trump is taking these orders from Putin. Trump is jealous of Putin’s power and wants to seem stronger so he needs a land-grab to make his pee-pee seem bigger.
cutemarshmallow@europe.pub · 1 pts · 211d
Whoever the source, some billionaire or government official convinced him it was a good idea and his smoothie brain is going along with it. I just wish the rest of the world didn't have to literally die as a result of this (his state of mind & ego), but apparently, that's too much to ask.
halferect@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 211d
I think the numbers are around 50 military personnel from Europe. Hardly a show of force.
CAVOK@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 211d
It's not the numbers, yet. It's the message it sends.
radiofreebc@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 211d
fyrilsol@kbin.melroy.org · 7 pts · 212d
DaMummy@hilariouschaos.com · 1 pts · 211d
This is just my theory, but I think he was ordered to invade Venezuela on Christmas, but refused to do so. So Bibi had to fly over, showed him some pictures from the Epstein Files Donald is in, and shortly after, he invaded Venezuela to not have those pictures released. Venezuela is sitting on the largest oil reserve in the world, and it was a way to cut off the leverage Iran had with its oil supply. As far as Greenland, Peter Thiel always wanted that place, there is a lot of mineral wealth beneath it, as soon as the ice is gone. It's why his pick, JD Vence, is VP.
OwlPaste@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 212d
But but but he now has the peace prize, so its not wars or attacks, just friendly banter really /s
fyrilsol@kbin.melroy.org · 0 pts · 212d
Avicenna@programming.dev · 7 pts · 211d
i.e US citizens will be paying %10 for stuff imported from these countries
Formfiller@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 211d
Wish the military would arrest him
sturmblast@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 210d
He's such a fucking idiot
cronenthal@discuss.tchncs.de · 6 pts · 212d
So he's declaring a trade war about Greenland. Good luck doing this with the largest trading block in the world.
MBech@feddit.dk · 6 pts · 212d
Greenland, but it's not all that surprising. Everytime this toddler doesn't get his toys, he screams "tarrifs!"
cronenthal@discuss.tchncs.de · 3 pts · 212d
Oh god, I'm sorry! Greenland of course. For now, at least.
MBech@feddit.dk · 2 pts · 212d
It's an understandable mistake. Whoever named those places was a dick.
Raul@europe.pub · 6 pts · 211d
He's lost all credibility. I can imagine all States assume dealing with him is about not crossing in front of his personal interests and giving money to buy his will. Those are the two things to consider. As Europe has fallen in the first group, it's time to be strong and stop him.
atropa@piefed.social · 6 pts · 211d
Aljernon@lemmy.today · 6 pts · 211d
If Europe grows a back bone and actually starts a full on Trade War with the US, I wouldn't be surprised if China joined in. I could see them carefully timing their action to maximize damage.
IsoKiero@sopuli.xyz · 2 pts · 211d
China doesn't even need to really join. They can just announce "looks like US bonds are losing value and we're going to sell crapload of them in order to secure our investments". No need to mention trade wars or do anything else.
super_user_do@feddit.it · 5 pts · 210d
I'm really happy that the EU is seeking for new commercial partners
sepiroth154@feddit.nl · 5 pts · 212d
Someone got a list of those "other countries" for me please?
6nk06@sh.itjust.works · 17 pts · 212d
sepiroth154@feddit.nl · 5 pts · 212d
Thank you!
bstix@feddit.dk · 13 pts · 212d
EU is a trade union though, so it's all of EU.
He can't tax one EU country different from others.
Let's say he decides to do it anyway.
Then the EU country with the highest tariff could simply move the goods through another EU country with a lower tariff. All on paper of course.
But anyway, why'd EU even care about domestic US taxes..
Hapankaali@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 211d
After all this time, still no one has managed to convey Trump even a rudimentary understanding of what tariffs are, and what the EU is.
sepiroth154@feddit.nl · 3 pts · 212d
That still might affect the Netherlands, as we are Europe's port.
ClamDrinker@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 211d
I am sure our Belgian brothers will be fine with it if we say we came from Antwerp instead, it's only 70 km away from Rotterdam :^)
jjpamsterdam@feddit.org · 3 pts · 212d
That's what I was thinking as well. If the Americans are as incompetent as they look we'll see a surge of European exports from Poland or Spain rather than Germany or France. It may suffice to just drive the same goods to Gdansk and ship it from there...?
bstix@feddit.dk · 4 pts · 211d
We don't have to drive goods anywhere. It's all on paper.
If the German company shipping German goods from a German harbor says that the goods actually belongs to their Polish subsidiary, that's Polish goods.
jjpamsterdam@feddit.org · 1 pts · 211d
Since most European businesses already own a letterbox in Ireland or Luxembourg, I suppose they can use those for their exports in such a scenario.
LMurch@thelemmy.club · 4 pts · 212d
ThePantser@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 212d
Here we go, he is circling around back to the same threats and ideas. His Alzheimer's must have reset him back to 2025.
twinnie@feddit.uk · 3 pts · 212d
Even if he ever actually does this it’ll only last like three weeks before he drops it out of “kindness”. Just like when he dropped the tariffs on China as there economy was “crumbling”, when the US only accounted for 3% of their exports.
FreddiesLantern@leminal.space · 2 pts · 211d
Ufff such a whiny bitch.
rizzothesmall@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 211d
Oh no. Anyway...
paraphrand@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 211d
His favorite hammer.
MehBlah@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 211d
Oh no! Impotence is going to tariff again. That thing that has failed utterly to get him what he wants. Oh no!
gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de · 1 pts · 211d
time to purchase stocks again once the tariffs inevitably make the market crash
DegenerationIP@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 211d
PiraHxCx@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 0 pts · 212d
So, have you guys watched that The Outer Limits episode The Architects of Fear?
edit: I guess not. It's about creating a monster that can unite the world [against it]
richardwallass@sh.itjust.works · -1 pts · 211d
One more time...Where is van der leyen ? She is weak and ineffective in negotiations, and it lacks unity within Europe. Its only contribution is reducing the freedom of peoples and trading with developing countries to continue the dumping, even if it means sacrificing the health of Europeans so its vassals can continue to make profits.