The families of US soldiers who have died in the US-Israeli war against Iran are battling to ensure they receive appropriate pay and benefits for their loved ones.
Libby Klinner, a widow, wrote on social media that the US air force had deemed her ineligible for additional benefits following the death of Major Alex Klinner, her 33-year-old husband, because Congress had not officially declared war.
He was one of six crew members of a KC-135 refuelling aircraft that crashed in western Iraq in March while supporting US strikes against Iran.
161 Comments
RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world · 131 pts · 1d
Reminds me of this:
One shitty dictator starting a completely unwarranted war doing the same thing as another shitty dictator running a completely unwarranted war.
Saledovil@sh.itjust.works · 24 pts · 18h
Give Putin some credit. He's doing this much more intelligently. He maintains a plausible pretense to not pay out death benefits while Trump just goes "No".
MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 14h
Putin's Ukraine adventure has been an abject failure.
Saledovil@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 13h
Which is why he needs to weasel out of paying death benefits.
WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 14h
Because he knows Americans will roll over and accept “no” without a fight
CileTheSane@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 9h
And if anyone tries to fight it the MAGAts will fight on his behalf.
There's a reason Trump loves stupid people.
WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca · 0 pts · 6h
So?
Put MAGA down.
Serinus@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 18h
Might not be a coincidence.
0x0@lemmy.zip · -13 pts · 15h
No no!
Russia bad, Murica good! You some kind of islamic or something?
MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 14h
Russia isn't "good" because you dislike the US. It's not and either/or thing.
0x0@lemmy.zip · -5 pts · 12h
You don't say?
NABDad@lemmy.world · 93 pts · 15h
I've said it forever: Screwing over veterans is more American than apple pie. We've been doing it since the American Revolution.
I can't imagine President Pedophile being the one to change that. He doesn't even care enough to pretend.
Etterra@discuss.online · 35 pts · 15h
He actively distains troops and veterans.
hoppeduponcoffee@lemmy.zip · 21 pts · 14h
He’s a draft dodger himself. They’re only pawns in his scheme to enrich himself and the capital class. It’s been the same with every president since WWII.
This is what happens when you prop your economy up on war and petroleum. You have to fight constant wars to maintain it. You have to keep heating up the planet until it’s unliveable.
The Great Depression proved that capitalism is a bubble that can’t sustain itself without constant exploitation of fossil fuels and the military-industrial complex. The second hit took place with the oil shortages and stagflation of the 1970s.
adespoton@lemmy.ca · 83 pts · 22h
If it’s not officially a war, what happens if a combatant chooses not to engage?
I suspect they’d be court martialled as if it were refusing a wartime order.
brachiosaurus@mander.xyz · 5 pts · 14h
They probably won't get paid which is the main reason they are there to begin with.
crazyslinkz@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 10h
Duh!
FuglyDuck@lemmy.world · 69 pts · 1d
... That might be the excuse they're using.
The reality is that they don't have the money because they spent it on bombing schools for young girls.
fuckers need to fuck right off to the fuckerville composting center.
YouTalkinToMe@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 18h
I think you are on point here.
brachiosaurus@mander.xyz · 5 pts · 14h
It's tax payers money, they have plenty of these, they just use money for things that are directly useful to them
chunk6235@piefed.social · 3 pts · 12h
Must be why they want to pump even more tax payer money into the un-auditable pentagon.
Ha, just kidding, we'll hand it out to cronies and make up some story because fuck those corpses' families
Z745812939054@lemmy.zip · 40 pts · 1d
and they'll still vote for pedo-in-chief
Craccoon@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 23h
And claim they "support the troops" all the same.
i_am_not_a_robot@discuss.tchncs.de · 8 pts · 18h
They're not troops anymore once they stop trooping. Then they're "losers." https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/09/trump-americans-who-died-at-war-are-losers-and-suckers/615997/
somethingsnappy@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 22h
They support troops, just not soldiers.
Leviathan@fedinsfw.app · 2 pts · 7h
And most definitely not veterans.
DarkDarkHouse@lemmy.sdf.org · 4 pts · 19h
The pedo-in-chief who kept calling it a war
flandish@lemmy.world · 39 pts · 17h
please stop joining the military
Ravenheart@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 16h
I 100% agree. But also, some folks have little choice as it's the only path they have out of poverty. Could be their only chance for a decent education too.
Edit: I understand the backlash I'm getting. But I also realize that poverty produces desperation, and desperation can push people to extreme decisions. Easy for me to say "don't ever join under any circumstances" when I'm not the one suffering in extreme poverty.
flandish@lemmy.world · 26 pts · 14h
the “have little choice” is just being able to shift guilt. we 100% know this is a genocidal fascist regime, and i have more support for someone who chooses to be gifted “life’s plan” of hardship over joining this mil.
fyi: this is the plan. the capitalists who profit from war know they can only profit if there is a cohort of poor, hungry, stupid kids they can use for the human parts.
MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world · -16 pts · 14h
If you want people to take you seriously, you could make less childish arguments.
flandish@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 13h
explain how this is childish. machines like weapons require people to operate. it’s always been the working class and poor who are scooped up to operate them. “ain’t no war but class war” is not just a bumper sticker.
so: try your reply again.
chunk6235@piefed.social · 12 pts · 12h
Are you upset that you can't refute the 100% accurate point?
The troops are pretty much there to go kill or die for some billionaire's profits, and Smedley Butler said as much decades ago and it's only gotten worse since. Once they get the killer robots working, they'll cut out the troops and not have to worry about people complaining about pay.
trk@aussie.zone · 23 pts · 15h
I'd rather be poor than murder people 🤷♂️
MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world · -14 pts · 14h
Are you poor?
Madzielle@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 13 pts · 13h
yes.
chunk6235@piefed.social · 12 pts · 12h
I was when I was enlistment age, and I told the recruiter to go fuck himself when they came asking, and then to go find a squadmate to assist if he couldnt follow the directions himself when he didn't like the first answer.
I had enough combat vets in my life to know what was up. No glory seekers, only people who saw the brutality first hand.
kestrel7_7@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 10h
Are most people who join the US military? Answer: no, the contemporary US military is overwhelmingly middle class. The “backdoor draft” isn’t nearly as popular as advertised.
100_kg_90_de_belin@feddit.it · 13 pts · 14h
If the only path out of poverty is killing poor people abroad then I'd rather stay poor.
MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world · -9 pts · 14h
You're probably not poor then
Leviathan@fedinsfw.app · 1 pts · 8h
'No true Scotsman' but for poor people choosing not to kill strangers for corporate profits.
stylusmobilus@aussie.zone · 12 pts · 15h
Honestly, if it’s this bad, why is this put up with?
For a country that has spent so much time telling others how free it is, its citizens take a lot of shit
If it’s that bad, no point waiting around any longer, shut the thing down.
Tyrq@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 5 pts · 14h
All you gotta do is tell people they're free.
Then you place them in freedom shackles, and give them freedom bucks to trade around inside their freedom cage. Why do you hate freedom so much, don't you like your freedom slop?
CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 10h
The most cutting scene in Easy Rider. I reference this often, but for a reason.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Gu2ouJNmXc
Tyrq@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 10 pts · 14h
Becoming a disposable weapon of the state is still a choice, they still have blood on their hands, whether or not the game is rigged to coerce desperate people into becoming murderers or cannon fodder
FatVegan@leminal.space · 9 pts · 16h
Sorry i have to kill brown people. Some rape is expected, but i really didn't have a choice.
DMCMNFIBFFF@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 16h
The Israeli-US Alliance essentially murdered Iranian schoolgirls.
electric_nan@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 11h
Essentially?
Rekorse@sh.itjust.works · 8 pts · 16h
Its not worth it.
redparadise@lemmy.ml · 7 pts · 15h
Sorry I had to serve in the SS cuz it was the only path I had out of poverty, for a chance at a decent education too, I 100% hate those Nazis please don't put us on trial 🥺
MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world · -6 pts · 14h
The US military isn't the SS.
redparadise@lemmy.ml · 10 pts · 14h
You're right, it's worse, the SS "only" massacred and tortured Europe, the US Military does it to the entire world, biggest stain on the planet since the Nazis.
Nalivai@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 13h
Not for the lack of trying.
dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 7 pts · 15h
Id rather see them in poverty than more dead girls abroad. We should start spitting on their faces again.
You may not believe it, but dead nieces sisters and daughters also foments desperation and inspires violence. The sniper who develops ptsd because he killed three generations of men in because he had to do that or be a wage slave is a product of what republicans want. If that guy had a UBI and more socialism in general, guess what? He isn't ending three generations of men because he has literally no reason to do it now.
kestrel7_7@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 10h
Sadly, there is no historical evidence that anyone ever spat in the faces of returning veterans, that’s just a scene from Rambo that conservatives decided was reality.
chewypoops@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 15h
The military is never anyone's only choice out of poverty. The military is a career you choose. Just because you were in poverty when you made that choice does not mean you didn't have other choices.
wewbull@feddit.uk · 2 pts · 12h
Officer grades...sure.
Rank and file... Nah. Not if you want OUT of poverty.
kestrel7_7@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 10h
TBH mostly middle class people join the military, and a lot of them end up homeless afterwards. Your conception of this situation is basically backwards.
zbyte64@awful.systems · 3 pts · 10h
Lots of people here probably don't deal with poor people on the regular so they don't understand. Once I talked to a 40 year old homeless man on a train ride home and he was talking about enlisting. His options were very bleak.
BurtReynolds@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 6h
I don't understand the backlash you're getting. It's not very surprising that a poor 18 year old sees the military as a way out of their hardship. I'm not saying it is, there's a very good chance it is not. But that a struggling teenager can see it that way, and getting drawn in by recruiters isn't odd.
100% agree with your edit. You'll see people used as drug mules, not because they're hardened criminals, but because they're desperate enough to do something they know is wrong.
I think a lot of the people taking a hard stance against you here haven't seen hardship up close and dont realise how tempting it would be to do something to get out of it
CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 11h
I grew up in an area where that was absolutely the case. A whole lot of people on things like food stamps and so on.
I don't have exact numbers, but I'd say at least one in four males (and not a few females) went into some branch of the military. They are promised a lot and most of it is not delivered.
My parents were pacifists and extremely suspicious of the industrial military complex, and did everything possible to keep the recruiters at bay, while they scrimped and saved and got loans for my siblings and I to get a secondary education or vocational training. They were not rich, but given they were both gainfully employed and very frugal, we were in a more stable home than most in my area.
Many kids did not even graduate, there was a fair bit of teen pregnancy, too. I have the same suspicion of the military my parents had, but I also understand that many of my school mates did not have a lot of options.
MahouOwl@piefed.zip · 35 pts · 12h
Think about the bright side: If all countries stop using the term "war", then we've achieved world peace!! /s
RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 12h
You jest, but this is exactly what trump would do.
BigPotato@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 11h
Would? Doesn't the "Board of Peace" exist?
Thebeardedsinglemalt@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 10h
Well they've already tried making it a crime to say the US is losing in Iran. That's the old state trick to solving the homelessness problem...by making it illegal
electric_nan@lemmy.ml · 31 pts · 11h
Imagine joining the US military.
givesomefucks@lemmy.world · 28 pts · 1d
Congress can basically make "non wars" into wars for benefits.
OEF and OIF cover post 9/11 up to like 2010 in most of the middle east.
It could be fixed right now, but trump and the Republicans won't.
But the real solution has always been giving everyone the benefits disabled vets get
FuglyDuck@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 1d
they don't even have the money for payroll right now.
So no, they really can't fix it overnight.
Rhaedas@fedia.io · 20 pts · 22h
But we can build ballrooms and arches and multiple attempts at a blue pool. Odd.
13igTyme@piefed.social · 5 pts · 21h
Because the other person is wrong. The US budget is basically a guideline and any excess gets carried to the next year.
Saledovil@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 18h
Trump's ego is more important than anything.
DMCMNFIBFFF@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 16h
Better that than benefits to mass murderers that is the US military in Iran (and Iraq and Afghanistan and Vietnam ..,).
dreamkeeper@literature.cafe · 2 pts · 15h
Lol please. This president has proven he can do basically whatever he wants with allocated funds and neither Congress or scotus will stop him.
kent_eh@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 12h
Congress could do a lot of things that they are refusing ro do.
givesomefucks@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 11h
Because Republicans have both majorities and the presidency...
Our system sucks, but it used to be functional, and can be again.
Obviously one of the first things to do once it's functional, is improve the system and put in protections to stop this from happening again.
Like, everyone complains about the electoral college, but we could just get rid of it and make the presidency a straight popular vote. But the real problem, is a president was never meant to have this much power in the first place. They're supposed to be an essentially powerless ambassador.
No real power, just the person we said can speak on our behalf in situations where there's just a single seat at a table for America
kent_eh@lemmy.ca · 0 pts · 10h
Agreed, that will be critical in trying to regain any level of trust from the rest of the world.
Again, you have identified another of the issues that needs fixing.
Between fixing those issues and repairing all the damage Trump (and his acomplices) have done, the USA has decades of work to do.
I hope they are both willing and able to put in the effort.
givesomefucks@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 10h
If you think that, you need to look back on how fast FDR fixed shit, and how the only thing that stopped him from doing more, is people not following up by flushing incumbents holding back progress.
Back then the average person didn't have the same outreach. Social media means people can actually organize and hear how things are going. That's why oligarchs keep gobbling up social media and flooding it with bots.
They're fucking scared.
kent_eh@lemmy.ca · 0 pts · 8h
Remind me in 6 years.
Based on the level of apathy I see from a majority of Americans, I don't expect much more than surface level changes (re-naming things back to their original names, de-trumping the white house decore etc) and little else.
I also don't trust that the Americans won't just elect another complete asshole 4 years after Trump is no longer president.
givesomefucks@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 8h
Then you don't understand how bad the party was under neoliberalism from 1991-2025, and you just assume that was actually trying or that the party went in a different direction with the 2025 chair election.
Like, if you ignore everything, obviously it's not going to make sense.
If you pay attention to what happened and what is happening, you wouldn't spend your free time shitting on the best and only chance to save the country....
Unless you were a trump supporter or neoliberal despite to depress dem turnout to stop progressives
kent_eh@lemmy.ca · 0 pts · 8h
I assume that was supposed to be "desperate".
That aside, I would much prefer the Americans elect a Democrat over a Republican, but I also would prefer the democrats put forward more progressive candidates than they have been.
freeman@sh.itjust.works · 27 pts · 14h
You also can't lose a war if it isn't a war! 😅
ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca · 7 pts · 12h
That's how they avoid saying they haven't won a war since WW2.
Gaslov@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 10h
Iraq was a pretty clear military victory.
ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca · 7 pts · 10h
The war so nice they did it twice.
But it just lead to wider conflict and terrorism in the region.
Gaslov@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 8h
So Iraq being in disarray after defeat somehow implies the US lost the war against them?
And wider conflict? Do you think Iraq was some sort of peaceful neighbor leading up to its demise?
ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 6h
The lack of a victory implies the US didn't win.
Leviathan@fedinsfw.app · 25 pts · 8h
Pentagon & GOP: Fuck you for your service.
smeenz@lemmy.nz · 10 pts · 7h
Some of you may die, but it's a sacrifice I am willing to make
madcaesar@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 6h
Military proceeds to vote GOP
At some point you have to lose compassion for idiots voting for the leopards party
AbsolutelyNotAVelociraptor@piefed.social · 22 pts · 20h
So they are eating slightly more healthy than someone eating boot soles as only meal of the day, they are being deployed for months without rest and they are dying in combat (or combat-related operations) BUT they are not at war so them and their families can't get benefits from it BUT ALSO they can't return home because they not at war but they are at war at the same time (which is not a war because the Congress didn't say so).
Are you trying to piss off the army and make the people with weapons turn against you? Because this is how you piss off the army and make the people with weapons turn against you.
porous_grey_matter@lemmy.ml · 22 pts · 20h
They're gambling that the American people, including the soldiers, are too atomised and too docile. Just like unions in other exploitative industries are becoming increasingly rare. I think they're probably correct, they ain't gonna do shit but accept it. You've gotta be constitutionally a bootlicker to join the military anyway. Those people don't have it in them to stand up for themselves unless it's "against" their wife and kids. Maybe you'll get an occasional guy losing it and shooting up his colleagues, the traditional way to do it.
0x0@lemmy.zip · -1 pts · 15h
LOL that'd be the day.
You need critical thinking for that.
Mycatiskai@lemmy.ca · 21 pts · 11h
JD Vance gets asked about the widows case and he responds to the journalist "send me her contact info so I can discuss it with her" as if he isn't the second most powerful person in his country and already has full access to all of the info but doesn't care. If they have to start paying out benefits to dead soldiers it might become more clear how many service members have actually died.
There are likely more fatalities of American soldiers but they are hiding them behind mission secrecy.
motruck@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 6h
He is always looking for another widow to befriend. Right, Erika?
betanumerus@lemmy.ca · 20 pts · 11h
The department of war, at war? How ridiculous.
kamen@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 8h
"Gentlemen, you can't fight in here! This is the War Room!"
glitch1985@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 10h
And losing at that.
frunch@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 22h
So are they going to rename the Department of Defense again?!
I can't fucking believe this. Well, i can because 🍊☝️
Serinus@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 18h
First time I've seen that emoji used for "fuckhead".
Eternal192@anarchist.nexus · 19 pts · 10h
You all elected a conman and then act surprised after being conned?
MAGA winning all over the place!
RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world · -6 pts · 10h
Did you make it to the end where I said he was a shitty prez? Or did you just need to re-state the obvious?
Eternal192@anarchist.nexus · 7 pts · 10h
My apologies, i wasn't aware that there was a limit to how shitty he is.
ZeroCool@piefed.ca · 19 pts · 6h
This should not surprise anyone. We've known Trump has nothing but contempt for our service members for years. It wasn't even limited to his comments about John McCain's five years as a POW either...
Trump: Americans Who Died in War Are ‘Losers’ and ‘Suckers’ published by The Atlantic on Sept 3rd 2020.
Godric@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 15h
Fucking disgusting Russia-tier semantics.
0x0@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 15h
I guess the ends meet...
Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz · 1 pts · 14h
ClownStatue@piefed.social · 16 pts · 9h
I know people frown on “that other site,” but there’s an excellent, and sadly incomplete (I suspect), listing of all the ways The Idiot and his administration have gleefully fucked over veterans.
Reddit
RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 9h
And many of them vote for him anyway.
chahn.chris@piefed.social · 16 pts · 13h
Military coup when?
zbyte64@awful.systems · 4 pts · 11h
monkey paw curls Palantir performs the coup
bonesawmcl@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 11h
Only if so many military personnel would not be MAGA... So not gonna happen.
VitoRobles@lemmy.today · 15 pts · 21h
It's a really stupid idea to upset the military while they're on active duty. Well, America might get their first military uprising.
Serinus@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 18h
When they try to steal the midterms, please.
MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 14h
Most of rank and file military still supports this dumbass president.
0x0@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 15h
They're re-elected Trump. There won't be a military uprising.
They're the best country in the world, didn't you know?
Tattorack@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 7h
No, right, it's just a Special Military Operation.
ThunderComplex@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 5h
A lil' oopsie
CactusEcho@piefed.social · 12 pts · 17h
is it a "special military operation"?
kent_eh@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 12h
Being conducted by the "department of war".
pbhj@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 5h
I don't know ... they followed the obviously illegal orders to go to war without congressional approval. They betrayed their oath to the constitution and favored Trump instead. Getting stiffed by Trump, as everyone expects of Trump, seems hardly something we should care about. Trump called them suckers, they chose to turn their backs on USA and follow Trump. It is of course sad when anyone gets hurt, but being willing participants in an unlawful and unjust war that is only about moving the stock market to make Trump rich ... when Trump has betrayed the constitution practically every day ...
osanna@lemmy.vg · 12 pts · 18h
so..... when are they gonna coup the orange turd stain?
MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 14h
We have elections in two months that could greatly limit his abilities - he's gotten away with almost everything because the Republican controlled Congress lets him.
It's a lot more realistic than an imaginary coup.
pbhj@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 5h
The military enabled him by ignoring their oath to uphold the constitution and deploying against USA cities.
It's a major problem, because you know the military support Trump instead of USA. Arguably USA died already.
TrippingBalls@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 18h
Are you free on Jan 6. 2027 ?
mkwt@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 14h
FYI, this is a midterm election that is coming up. The senators and representatives who will have been elected will be sworn in on Jan 2, 2027 in their respective chambers. Nothing significant to the constitution is scheduled for Jan 6. That's only in presidential election cycles.
floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 16h
Remember, remember, the fifth of November.
TheKingBombOmbKiller@lemmy.zip · 10 pts · 19h
As in all other things, they want all of the benefits and none of the responsibilities.
M0oP0o@mander.xyz · 9 pts · 19h
Oh I have seen this one before!
guyoverthere123@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 7h
What do you mean you've seen this? it's brand new.
raman_klogius@ani.social · 9 pts · 1d
Someone make Patrick's wallet meme of this please.
Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca · 8 pts · 13h
Huh? Didn't know the Americans had that little clause. My SDB is paid out to my spouse regardless of whether I die in a war.
BigPotato@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 10h
For Americans, something like the Servicemembers Group Life Insurance (SGLI) pays out regardless of how you snuff it but you have to be paying for that one already and you decide the level.
What they didn't pay out is combat pay, or "Hazardous Duty Pay" which is based on where you're deployed to. Since the person in question was Air Force though, and doing missions over various areas, that creates a situation where you can be deployed in support of combat operations but in a "friendly" area and not receiving combat pay.
Based on the article, they still got the last paycheck and other stuff, they just got a few hundred less for dying in support of Operation Protect the Pedophiles.
ohulancutash@feddit.uk · 7 pts · 19h
Lie down with dogs, madam…
SalmonTractor@discuss.tchncs.de · 7 pts · 4h
Since its inception, the US government has never liked paying soldiers for war. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pennsylvania_Mutiny_of_1783
Alexander Hamilton didn't even want to pay the IOUs back, until he decided that many were owned by investors that had bought them from soldiers. The quote was something to the effect of, "those investors are true Americans and they should get their money." The Dollop podcast has a good 4-parter on Hamilton that covers that and other issues.
SabinStargem@lemmy.today · 6 pts · 17h
Ah yes. My forced withdrawal of money from the corner store isn't robbery. 🙄
breakfastmtn@lemmy.ca · 6 pts · 22h
Original link:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2026/09/06/pentagon-refused-payout-soldiers-died-in-iran-war/
brachiosaurus@mander.xyz · 6 pts · 14h
play stupid games win stupid prizes
zbyte64@awful.systems · 2 pts · 11h
They keep the masses poor and dumb so that they volunteer to play stupid games.
Alexfire@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 10h
And by propaganda at sports events for their tribal minds, the same control mentality and punching down is common among those groups, sports, military, supernatural, maga, etc.
Klostein@reddthat.com · 5 pts · 5h
Apparently he has small potatoes 🥔🥔🤏
BillCheddar@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 5h
Why would it matter if we're at war or not?
It's combat and someone died as part of it.
redparadise@lemmy.ml · 4 pts · 18h
Deserved.
VirtuePacket@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 11h
Illegal, shameful, and un-American.
beanburger@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 11h
Seems pretty American to me
DaGreenGobbo@feddit.uk · 6 pts · 10h
America Eats Its Young.
Other people's too.
RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 11h
Yes. We know about trump. But what about the article?
yoriaiko@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 4 pts · 16h
Smort move.. those who had guns died, no need to pay those who don'y have weapon or treats.
For those, who still have weapons...
northendtrooper@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 5h
Its really fucked that the people who are serving who didn't vote for this clown are now suffering at his co-conspirators.
anon_8675309@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 15h
Fucking assholes.
sober_monk@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 13h
PattyMcB@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 21h
Fuck this whole administration. Male them fight for themselves
Sam_Bass@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 8h
their refusal makes them the true losers of the military
wirebeads@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 4h
So much winning Americans.
FluidBeef@quokk.au · 1 pts · 14h
Paging Baudrillard…
FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 4h
Stupid loopholes
Redditmodstouchgrass@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 10h
TimboSlice@discuss.online · 0 pts · 16h
Lol
IndustryStandard@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 17h
Scum of the earth may his family be deprived of all benefits.
unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de · -2 pts · 16h
Shouldnt have married a warcriminal...
anon_8675309@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 14h
That’s not how that works.
Such low fucking effort.
unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de · -1 pts · 13h
I mean yeah, maybe he wasnt a warcriminal before the marriage, but i think that just means she had very bad judge of character if she didnt notice what kind of person he was. Dont marry people that are willing to die for the oil lobby.