Valve: HDMI Forum Continues to Block HDMI 2.1 for Linux

I have a 25ft HDMI cable that works fine for everything except sometimes when I open a new tab in Firefox, the screen temporarily goes blank/no-signal for a couple seconds. Also sometimes when the dryer turns on.

Nope. DisplayPort can adapt to HDMI or DVI passively. It won’t support the proprietary bullshit like HDCP, but it will be able to display video just fine. Pin 13 on DP is specifically used to detect adapters, so the output device can automatically change to using an HDMI protocol if it detects an HDMI adapter. This technically requires a dual-mode DP port to automatically adapt, but the vast majority of DP connectors produced in the past several years are dual-mode.

But going the other direction (HDMI to DP) requires an active adapter, to strip out all of the proprietary HDMI-only bullshit.

Oh wow thanks! Alright everyone. We can all get off lemmy now. Turns out we can just look everything up online. No need to waste time talking to each other. Ugh!

where's the Google in this search?

https://lmgtfy.app/?q=dp+to+hdmi

I have an old iMac that I use as a Plex server, and it has a firewire 800 port and a thunderbolt 1 port, both of which I use for a couple of very old external drive enclosures. Sure as hell beats USB 2.0.

I always wanted a way to use that jack, still have no clue what it was for

Compared to the top speed of USB 2.0, firewire 400 was actually faster in that regard (due to a consistent transfer rate rather than a variable one), and I’ll explain where the true performance came in to play, and how thunderbolt also has this amazing feature:

When usb connections begin to data transfer, they started at 0 Kb and slowly speed up to the maximum transfer rate. Then it slows down before completion. FireWire (and is successor, Thunderbolt) maintain a consistent data transfer speed. It begins at that transfer rate, and ends at that transfer rate. This is especially good if you’re moving around a large amount of small files.

Also, firewire 400 already beat out USB 2.0’s 382 Mb/s transfer rate. Firework 800 more than doubled it, and thunderbolt 1 started at 1.5 GB a second. We’re at thunderbolt 5 now, and I stopped keeping track of the data rates because they were so blazingly fast.

One drawback, however, is that firewire cables, and subsequently thunderbolt cables, are both extremely expensive and not very durable. They contain a lot more twisted copper wires, and tend to wear out faster. USB cables are nearly indestructible.

Additionally, firewire (and thunderbolt) are also a networking protocol. You can create an ad-hoc LAN just with firewire or thunderbolt cable cables. This is natively built into macOS, but, on Linux, it requires some sorcery to make it work. With a Mac, and an emergency, you can boot your Mac with a damaged hard to drive remote remotely from another functional Mac just by using a thunderbolt cable (or a firewire cable). It’s a neat trick, and has saved my ass more times than I can count.

One final awesome feature of thunderbolt 2+ is that a natively carries DisplayPort signals since switching to the USB 3 plug standard.

Leave it to me to only consider the male end of the connector 😜

Not their proprietary (what was the old iPod connector called?)

This is what I was responding to. Also, they only sold that iMac for about a year, after which point iMacs came with FireWire ports.

And I’m in my 40s. I’m not a “youngin’”.

It bothers me. There are too many things that are either not standards-complient or support different parts of the USB feature set that compatibility is a wildcard.

I carry a large backup battery when I travel for work. It can keep my laptop going under load all day, allowing me to not care at all about proximity to outlets when working. It also allows me to painlessly recharge phones by just handing it to someone.

Last week, I was running something from someone else's laptop (enterprise HP, like mine, but different model). It got low, so I pulled out my battery. Plug it in... No power. I could see the voltage fluctuations of it negotiating, but nothing after that.

I have actually been looking at modding an NES with HDMI (and other goodies) as a small project. There are various kits out there.

You breathe through an octopus? Don’t they need that oxygen themselves?

You really going to be the “akshullay” person about hyperbole?

It's even more pathetic than that. They aren't just expressing their will to play the game, they are asking for approval despite it. It's similar to the "nothing personal" disclaimer which is usually followed by something with significant personal disruption.

Most honestly expressed, they'd be, "I'm doing/about to do something that impacts you negatively, please don't retaliate against me because I don't like it when negative things happen to me."

Edit: just noticed the commenter you replied to reversed the original saying and agrees with you.

No players, no game

I'm pretty sure the saying goes, "don't hate the player, hate the game." Which implies that you shouldn't be blaming the bad actors but the bad system that causes it to be that way.

Nor do you get TV tuners. While most geeks probably couldn’t care less, any associated family do prefer to watch Great British Bake-off as it airs.

Just told my elderly aunt to not buy a smart tv today!

But do they make 40ish+ monitors?

No, DisplayPort, DVI-D and HDMI use fundamentally the same protocol, HDMI just adds DRM which requires active adapters when one plugs in a HDMI source into a DisplayPort sink. DisplayPort to HDMI conversions are completely lossless and don't add latency AFAIK.

Not if Valve packed it in with the Steam Machine.

Weell, except some series, where every 20 min HD piece is 1 GB.

should be able to with hdmi arc, not sure 100% tho but it seems like you could tell the projector where to send the audio, i know you can with tvs and hdmi arc. worst case scenario you do dp in to the projector and hope valve has stereo or optical out to go into reciever

I know that there are some complicated configurations that you could use to get the audio feed from display port to your receiver,, like running it through a splitter that will strip out the audio and send it to your receiver separately. I'm pretty sure there are no mainstream AV receivers that will do what you want because the market is split between home theatre and PC, as mentioned elsewhere in this thread, and manufacturers need to be convinced there's a market for it.

In that situation, I would connect the output device, in this case a PC, directly to the TV/monitor with DP, and run optical audio from either the TV or the output device to receiver.

You lose some of the integrated control that HDMI-CEC gives you, so get a good universal remote that can adapt to this set up and get one-button source switching back.

it's gold plated

Mint isn't wayland yet and X11 does not support adaptive sync if multiple monitors are connected

I don't even know what that is, frankly.

Whatever Cinnamon runs on natively. I have no idea beyond that.

Neofetch says that it's seeing an AMD ATI Radeon HD 8730M and an Intel Haswell-ULT, which is probably the chipset connected to the i7-4600U, and I'm assuming what 99% of the graphics are being generated on.

Could work in the EU.

I hate the Wi-Fi remote thing. My TV has a Wi-Fi remote and it runs off of AA battery and they last about 4 days and then run out. If I hadn't replaced them with rechargeable ones they would have probably had to open a new landfill site just for my old batteries.

It’s more of a barrier for people who are pirating media, not the ones consuming that pirated media.

But again that's not related to a committee stopping the implementation of a standard. It's a scale of production issue, a labelling issue, and a consumer protection issue.

And I like having one port to just dock my machine in for power and display. I do understand how a separate port can help but I don't see why we can't have USB C working to its designed spec apart from the reasons I listed above.

It's a travesty! I just went through this barbed wire circus! Swore to all my friends that Anker branded cables are "the way". Sank a good amount of my money into that brand. Only to find that while yes, they excel in power delivery, many times when it comes to Data Transfer Rates, these new Anker cables are maxing out at 480Mbps. That's USB ver. 2.0 speed. In a 2025 USB-C form factor. Other brands are pushing 40Gbps and Anker is just like the brandname (in Dutch): an anchor. I'm so peeved at the fact these manufacturers don't do like the IEEE did regarding Ethernet cables: printed every X distance is the standard, right on the jacketing. You can't tell me these USB cable manufacturers can't follow suit. It's USB! Need we all buy USB-IF compliant consumables? Is this really where we are this late into USB ver 3.X now going into USB ver. 4 ?!

I don't have to tell you things are bad. Everybody knows things are bad. It's a depression. Everybody's out of work or scared of losing their job. The dollar buys a nickel's worth, banks are going bust, shopkeepers keep a gun under the counter. Punks are running wild in the street and there's nobody anywhere who seems to know what to do, and there's no end to it. We know the air is unfit to breathe and our food is unfit to eat, and we sit watching our TVs while some local newscaster tells us that today we had fifteen homicides and sixty-three violent crimes, as if that's the way it's supposed to be. We know things are bad - worse than bad. They're crazy. It's like everything everywhere is going crazy, so we don't go out anymore. We sit in the house, and slowly the world we are living in is getting smaller, and all we say is, 'Please, at least leave us alone in our living rooms. Let me have my toaster and my TV and my steel-belted radials and I won't say anything. Just leave us alone.' Well, I'm not gonna leave you alone. I want you to get mad! I don't want you to protest. I don't want you to riot - I don't want you to write to your congressman because I wouldn't know what to tell you to write. I don't know what to do about the depression and the inflation and the Russians and the crime in the street. All I know is that first you've got to get mad. You've got to say, 'I'm a HUMAN BEING, God damn it! My life has VALUE!' So I want you to get up now. I want all of you to get up out of your chairs. I want you to get up right now and go to the window. Open it, and stick your head out, and yell, 'I'M AS MAD AS HELL, AND I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE THIS ANYMORE!' I want you to get up right now, sit up, go to your windows, open them and stick your head out and yell - 'I'm as mad as hell and I'm not going to take this anymore!' Things have got to change. But first, you've gotta get mad!... You've got to say, 'I'm as mad as hell, and I'm not going to take this anymore!' Then we'll figure out what to do about the depression and the inflation and the oil crisis. But first get up out of your chairs, open the window, stick your head out, and yell, and say it: "I'M AS MAD AS HELL, AND I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE THIS ANYMORE!"

On arm? I dont think you're up to date with the situation