Where to go now since Linux is mainstream

Upgrade to CathedralOS time

This is the only correct answer.

Unless OP is a chicken who can't hack it!? Temple has everything I need and nothing I don't.

TempelOS?

... I just noticed... that says "TempelOS".

If it was so good then where is plan10 though

This is the actual only correct answer. Plan9 is unix but better and with an animal pet like Linux.

Inferno would also be acceptable

[oh, someone else mentioned plan9 too... *pastes reply*]

plan9

Very honourable.

Yus.

9front.

The best OS I cant wrap my head around.

Ive noticed this, arch almost just works but my nixOS friends are always complaining about something

NixOS user here; please do not recommend NixOS.

nix run nixpkgs#virtualenv ~/.venv
. ~/.venv/bin/activate
pip install foo
# ...

As a NixOS user...yeah don't recommend it. Don't get me wrong I absolutely adore NixOS but suggesting people switch to it when their current distro works perfectly fine for them is a disservice.

NixOS makes the hard things easy, and the easy things hard. It's incredibly frustrating trying to get something that should be insanely easy to work on NixOS. A good example of which is Neovim with Lazyvim. on every other distro it's not a big deal, it should be easy to install right? on NixOS you'll be pulling your hair out trying to get the meson tree-sitter crap to work correctly. Or you'll find stuff that has been specifically re-packaged or put into a flake to work for NixOS. ok that's fine, that'll work on SOME peoples configurations but if yours is ever so slightly more unique it won't. And then you start to wonder and question if your configuration is wrong but the thing is with NixOS there's no right or wrong with the configuration. Some people will suggest you use flakes, some people will say don't bother. Some will say you should put every single thing in modules, some will say don't bother.

So the problem is with NixOS is that when you start using it and understanding it going to another distro feels like you're somehow reverting. BUT there's the potential issue of getting stuck in the rabbit hole that is constant NixOS configuration adjustments to try and get that most perfect and smooth config out of your system. Currently I'm on Arch because I'm taking a "vacation" from NixOS. I have some important projects that are due soon and I just needed to get into a distro that will allow me to focus on them. In a couple weeks time however I know I'll be back on NixOS.

Bout to do a complete 360 on the GPL

systemd anyone?

ducks for cover

MacOS is based on FreeBSD, with the kernel APIs almost fully compatible and the userland just taken from FreeBSD. Your turn.

We're up to 4% again 5% is back on the menu which will make 2026 also the year of the Linux desktop.

Im forking RISC-V to the GPL and writing a new OS ontop of it

https://www.haiku-os.org/ is the most fun I‘ve had with an OS in along time.

The closest we have come to god

well GNU/GNU is just GNU :o

I like GNU^2

As it turns out programming a calculator can be quite complex: https://chadnauseam.com/coding/random/calculator-app

$ maxima -q

(%i1) (10^100)+1-(10^100);

(%o1)                                  1
(%i2) 

Lol new license, you way read my source code but you may not run it/use it/ do literally anything with it

First you need to create a compiler

&

Got an old wild idea resurfaced from that...

An OS "entirely" in Haskell.

... calculator: ghci.

... window manager: xmonad. ... (and... a rewrite of X11 protocol in Haskell, sufficient to run xmonad).

... text editor: yi

... ... and a Haskell shell... would surely be named hash.

I already have irc bots made from the tutorial to make an irc bot in Haskell... that could be converted to an irc client.

... doubtless many more Haskell tools to populate the rest of the purposes.

... Haskell tools to interface with the web could be interesting...

At first I thought you meant merely compiling everything by hand [(with make)], like LFS (and then thought LFS without following LFS... and then thought make life easy, start with just a kernel and busybox (or toybox)).

But yeah... that'd be the real kudos.

I've made a small start towards that, having written my own text editor. (And, I suppose, in a way, my own irc client, "diis".)

But that's a long way from writing my own kernel and userland and other advanced accoutrements.

Maybe instead of writing own kernel, could just fork one. ... Maybe Ironclad... or even Hurd.

I remember the BeOS guys doing a demo at my LUG before they release the BeBox (or whatever their computer was called). That OS was so ahead of it's time. There were about 200 of us just gasping at how good it was and what it could do. Actually using BeOS on a PowerPC ended up being an on ramp for me to Linux. By the time Haiku came out, life was too busy and I was too entrenched in Linux. Maybe now that I'm retired I'll take a look at it.

If ReactOS were usable they probably would

im building my own linux, with hookers and no C code

I did that once. It instantly made my beard double the length.

I feel seen.

Hm im debating putting a laptop I mostly use for SSH on bsd. Might be fun

The only correct answer.

I'm so glad I'm not the only one who knows about this

The first person in real life that I met who used nixos was so proud to show off his configs. I let him, and was suitably impressed. I then returned home and decided to play dark souls 2 on my lovely little manjaro.

It is not just about deploying, which to be honest is great. I can build software for my Raspberry Potato on my desktop and remote deploy the config using one line in the terminal.

It is also for when I decide to tinker with my system by changing stuff like audio latency and clock rates for real time audio, USB HID overrides and so on. Normally I would be scared to break something, or worse, fix something without knowing what did it and thus learning nothing from my efforts.

The best part is having a system that you can approach almost scientifically, making it unbreakable in the sense that you can immediately revert to a true former state, both as a build and a config using GRUB and Git, respectively.

Imma be honest I never understood NixOS for laptop/workstations, these systems are highly volatile so setting up deployable builds sounds lke a nightmare. For Servers/Deployments it makes bunch more sense.

But are you truly using nixos, if you don't have a swarm of 10+ machines that do distributed builds?Can you really say that your system is deployable, if you never tested it on an obscure ARM board and a laptop from 2005?

While i do kinda agree with you that it's debatable on if it's even worth it to invest the time in it, i do think it's neat even for a home setup, but i'd say it depends on what your setup looks like. If you're the type of user who just uses a stock DE with some apps on top of it there's probably not much to be gained, but if you have a highly customized setup, like a minimal arch install for example with a bunch of window managers, custom services and configs and all that, then it's pretty nice to have all that stuff declared, so you can easily replicate it when you reinstall.

That's been automated by the sun-tracking solar power array managed by SolarAssistant running on Home Assistant on the Raspberry Pi. Valuable human time can be dedicated to more productive pursuits.

I've been a fan of the easy to install all-in-one Linux experience of modern distros, being an old guy with a family and a keen awareness of how much I need to maintain some of the non-computer hobbies in my life. Mint has been my jam for a long time.

But just recently I had reason to try out regular old Debian with KDE Plasma, and I think I have found my happy place. I just moved around my hard drives and set up my handful of self-hosted things on this fresh system. It's so nice to occasionally use as a desktop while it is also a rock solid server.

Like a literal block of rusted iron? I like it

Start slapping Raspberry Pis on random shit to bring it to life.

+1 for linux phone it needs some VoLTE love.

https://www.phoronix.com/news/GNU-Hurd-In-2026

GNU Hurd Is "Almost There" With x86_64, SMP & ~75% Of Debian Packages Building

Written by Michael Larabel in GNU on 1 February 2026

looks inside

Linux

Long time since I've heard anything about qubesos

Well its Linux?

I started using Gentoo many years ago, and took a break from it for a few years. It has some overhead to maintain. Two years or so ago I went back to it and, no joke, it is so much simpler now. Dist-kernel, dracut, refind just sorted everything. I felt like I was cheating. I don't have to write my own custom initramfs for my custom needs? Stuff just solves it? And compilation errors and conflicts even when running a bunch of keyworded packages: gone! What is going on?

Whats wrong with FreeBSD users? My only real experience is kernel dev I had to work with once they seemed chill.

bitching on Gentoo because it is allegedly difficult to install

Just earlier, I saw a tui installer for gentoo @ https://lemmy.wtf/post/13625402 , and doubtless many others out there in the wild (even my own from over a decade ago).

And then there are things like CalculateLinux, and RedCoreLinux.

But they're a bit try-hard, and janky, especially RedCoreLinux.

Gone are the days of Toorox or CloverOS, which were much more like just a straight nice plain desktop Gentoo out of the box with an easy installer.

Then there's the likes of DecibelLinux... handy if your thing is audio production. Stage4 Gentoo, fit for discovery of all the audio tools.

Though of course, indeed, Gentoo's not hard to install. Here's the only gentoo install video you will ever need, and it's less than 40 seconds long! Simples.

DragonflyBSD

I was just thinking of that, and HAMMER, when reading the BeOS & BeFS posts above.

Year of the HURD desktop will be glorious

I used Hurd a little over a decade ago... And it was fine.

People talk about it like it does not work yet. It does. You can use Hurd.

yeah tech is general went mainstream, we must retreat to the real world

ABACUS! /donvito

Always gotta stay two steps ahead of the normies

yeah im not some scrub that uses a normie BSD distro. That's like using Ubuntu

Praying Meta does not release a Slackware based distro

Emacs as an OS (EaaOS). sounds like a good idea to me

http://informatimago.free.fr/i/linux/emacs-on-user-mode-linux.html

Emacs standing alone on a Linux Kernel

Granted, they're using User-Mode Linux on a host Linux.

The newest version is ArcaOS.

I bought a laptop in 1995 with OS2/warp on it. An IBM thinkpad 365xd. It was a glorious time.

Does it run on real hardware yet? if not its time for some PRs

Its a shitpost but I've definitely felt more people migrating over. Like if you go on reddit gaming communities a decade ago no one talked about Linux but not theirs Linux advocates people complain about. Steam deck is now a thing, LTT did a linux challenge, Pewdiepie told people to install Linux. It's if you talk to random people on the street they probably don't know what my bloody valentine is. But if you talk to some Music nerds and tell them yk about this niche artist called mbv they would all laugh at you

What universe are you living in that Linux is mainstream?

Server universe.

Savvy friend group echo-chamber universe.

Android universe.

Embedded and (pseudo(?)-)microcontroller universe.

SBC universe.

All the corporate machines secretly (or sometimes not so secretly) running Linux (Like John Deere tractors, cars, cookers, boats, etc.)... universe.

Steamdeck universe.

Linux focused laptop & workstation manufacturers universe.

PS,

Linux accounts for 3.58%. Congratulations, we’re ahead of mac! Windows still has 94.23%. But this is the year of the Linux desktop!

I've heard rumours desktop linux may be passed 5-6% already, and rising fast, thanks to Win11 creating windows refugees and the steamdeck enticing more gamers.

This feels spiritually correct

How does Guix stack up to Nix? I rem hearing they don't support prop software by default

Which BSDs have you tried?

Some may be happier on your hardware than others.

Plan9

Very honourable.

Yus.

9front.

Yeah one time I tried to fuck with scheduling to see what happened. Compiling is too easy now they even let you compile with compiler warnings now???? Linus has gone soft

Redox looks really interesting and I’d like to give it a try, but it has so little hardware support that I don’t have a machine that can run it. Considering their driver model, I’m really curious as to their long term hardware support plan.

New templeOS just dropped

Not an Amiga person, but...

goes to investigate if Eric Schwartz --- the Amiga, Sabrina Online guy --- has done AROS art

Aaannnddd...sure enough, yes.

https://old.reddit.com/r/sabrinaonline/comments/1065sif/did_you_know_that_eric_williams_schwartz_made_a/

Did you know that Eric Williams Schwartz made a mascot for AROS (Amiga Research Operating system) named “kitty”?

Oh, that is fun. I didn't know about that one.

* opens about page. * rabbits rabbits rabbits

If we want to avoid being normie, there are a lot of DOSes out there other than MS-DOS.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DOS

DOS (/dɒs/, /dɔːs/) is a family of disk-based operating systems for IBM PC compatible computers.[1] It primarily consists of IBM PC DOS and a rebranded version, Microsoft's MS-DOS, both of which were introduced in 1981. Later, compatible systems from other manufacturers are DR-DOS (1988), ROM-DOS (1989), PTS-DOS (1993), and FreeDOS (1994). MS-DOS dominated the IBM PC compatible market between 1981 and 1995.

And I'm sure that there are also incompatible-with-MS-DOS DOSes. The Apple II OS was ProDOS.

searches

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_disk_operating_systems_called_DOS

A ton I've never heard of on there.

I really want an 8" Linux tablet with a processor from the 2020's and reasonable battery life.

That and a cellular wifi AP and I'd ditch my phone.

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