Hegseth declares, 'I only speak American' to room full of foreign leaders

https://www.irishstar.com/news/politics/pete-hegseth-embarrassingly-declares-i-36833592

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Sanctus@anarchist.nexus · 310 pts · 148d (13 replies)

Its "I only speak english and bad english" you uncultured fuck

dohpaz42@lemmy.world · 59 pts · 148d (10 replies)

*badder english

neidu3@sh.itjust.works · 43 pts · 148d (7 replies)

Worser*

merdaverse@lemmy.zip · 34 pts · 148d (6 replies)

the worsest

Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 45 pts · 148d (4 replies)

Worsestershire.

Asfalttikyntaja@sopuli.xyz · 18 pts · 148d

Ah, that’s where the name comes.

Captainautism@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 17 pts · 148d (2 replies)

You mean, wash-your-sister-sauce?!

Pat_Riot@lemmy.today · 11 pts · 148d (1 reply)

You can really taste the anchovy!

I am so sorry. I don't know what came over me.

dohpaz42@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 148d

Probably your sister.

I’ll show myself out.

neidu3@sh.itjust.works · 15 pts · 148d

"Subparest" when you wanna sound fancy

Captain_Buddha@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 148d (1 reply)

...I think they're quoting 'the fifth Element' up there.

grue@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 148d

Ironically, that movie is French.

someguy3@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 148d

14 and edgy English yo.

GraniteM@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 148d

Boom! Big bada boom!

pelespirit@sh.itjust.works · 238 pts · 148d (6 replies)

And nazi, he speaks nazi too. That sieg heil in the photo didn't happen by coincidence.

Rentlar@lemmy.ca · 115 pts · 148d (5 replies)

It's an accurate snapshot of the American executive branch right now... the moron MAGA President asleep at the wheel, the moron MAGA underlings putting on full display their idiotic rendition of fascism.

hateisreality@lemmy.world · 31 pts · 148d

Whilst spending untold billions on military gear for ice to violate our constitutional rights.

SARGE@startrek.website · 17 pts · 148d
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lechekaflan@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 148d (1 reply)

Yeah, Putin's favorite circus trope.

psycho_driver@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 148d

When he starts getting in his feelings about not being able to take over Ukraine I bet how bad he's managed to fuck up our government is salve for his wounds.

phutatorius@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 146d

their idiotic rendition of fascism

All renditions of fascism are idiotic.

AbsolutelyNotAVelociraptor@piefed.social · 153 pts · 148d (24 replies)

Sabes cómo se llama uno que habla tres idiomas? Trilingüe.

Sabes cómo se llama uno que habla dos? Bilingüe.

Sabes como se llama uno que habla un sólo idioma? Americano. Se llama americano.

This fucking moron made himself the punchline of the joke that we invented to mock those like him.

JasonDJ@lemmy.zip · 57 pts · 148d (1 reply)

As an American, I laughed.

psycho_driver@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 148d

Then I cried some more.

ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 8 pts · 148d (18 replies)

Why is there a ü in the answers?

Edit: Thanks for explaining everyone. I have no idea how I missed that my whole life. I had no idea. It could be because I'm in Western Hemisphere but not sure.

bdonvr@thelemmy.club · 38 pts · 148d (9 replies)

Because that's how it's spelled.

Spanish uses ü, although relatively rarely. It signifies that you should pronounce the u and not merge it into nearby vowels.

v_krishna@lemmy.ml · 10 pts · 148d (6 replies)

English does the same with most vowels, it's called diaeresis though the only place I commonly see it is in the New Yorker (funnily enough googling what it is called led me to a New Yorker article about it.

bdonvr@thelemmy.club · 14 pts · 148d (3 replies)

I mean at this point it seems that English doesn't do this, but maybe at one point it saw limited use.

Except "naïve", that still happens. But English is nothing if not wildly inconsistent.

v_krishna@lemmy.ml · 12 pts · 148d

Fair enough point, I also see it in normal English usage for proper nouns but basically nowhere else.

Wikipedia agrees with you (and also calls out the New Yorker vehemently disagrees which I find oddly comforting and hilarious)

In British English this usage has been considered obsolete for many years, and in US English, although it persisted for longer, it is now considered archaic as well.[3] Nevertheless, it is still used by the US magazine The New Yorker.[4]

CommanderCloon@lemmy.ml · 5 pts · 148d (1 reply)

It's because naïve is a french word

ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 148d

Oh shit it's in French too? I've been under a rock.

bcgm3@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 148d (1 reply)

Diaeresis? Try Pepto Bismol.

ipd@universeodon.com · 4 pts · 148d

@bcgm3 @v_krishna

The thing that my sib would kill me if I read it.

The thing that 10k marsupials would come up with given pens and blank books

Slovene@feddit.nl · 3 pts · 148d (1 reply)

Can ü get pregante?

bdonvr@thelemmy.club · 2 pts · 147d

No, that would make you feel embarazada

criticon@lemmy.ca · 13 pts · 148d (1 reply)

In Spanish in the syllables gue and gui the u is silent

When the ü is used it means the the u makes a sound like pingüino, cigüeña, vergüenza, güero, antigüedad, etc.

phutatorius@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 146d

It distinguishes the consonantal u from the vowel u.

AbsolutelyNotAVelociraptor@piefed.social · 9 pts · 148d (1 reply)

@bdonvr@thelemmy.club explained it very well in their comment. To add, in Spanish, the letter "g" when followed by either an "i" or an "e" will be pronounced in three different ways depending on whether you add an "u" in between, and if that "u" has a diaeresis on it. If you add the dieresis, it means you have to pronounce the "u". Think of "pingüino" (penguin in english). In order to say the "u" in the word, we add the diaeresis that says the reader that they have to say the "u". In Spanish, "guillotina", "pingüino" and "ginebra" you will read the sillabe with a "g" and an "i" differently on each of those words.

Spanish has tons of grammar rules. It's hard to learn them all, but when you do, it makes extremely easy to know how to say a word when you read it. Even where to put the accent (even if there is no tilde in the word).

phutatorius@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 146d

Spanish orthography (which is not really grammar) is still very simple and logical compared to the mess we have in English, where spelling was largely frozen before the Great Vowel Shift happened. It was a perfectly decent West Germanic language until Norman French forced itself onto Anglo-Saxon and left us with a weird mish-mash of Germanic and Romance features.

Bronx@lemmy.zip · 6 pts · 148d (2 replies)

Because that changes how it is pronounced

Let's say- Penguin

In spanish it is Pingüino

"Pingüino" is pronounced "pinguino" ("gui" just like in english)

While "pinguino" would be something like "pingeeno"

phutatorius@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 146d

And without the diaresis, the silent u is there because gi on its own would have a soft g like English "gee" rather than a hard g like "ghee."

ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 148d

That's an easy to understand answer. I got it now! ;)

Chozo@fedia.io · 3 pts · 148d

Because you are smiling at the fünny joke

lechekaflan@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 148d

Shitgeth = puta merda.

redsand@infosec.pub · 3 pts · 147d

It's an American joke too but from satire so Pete probably didn't get it... I wonder if Pete was a fan of The Boys

zebidiah@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 147d

i don't speak/read/write Spanish..... i do speak two other languages that are not English, and i am not a fucking idiot, therefore, i can read text in a foreign language, and still get the joke.

DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world · 90 pts · 148d (9 replies)

I wonder what his mom thinks of him turning into such a huge douchey asshole.

Is she surprised, or did she see it coming? Maybe he's always been so. He's the kid who made new rules for games and cried when the other kids wouldn't follow his rules.

e8CArkcAuLE@piefed.social · 101 pts · 148d (2 replies)

“You are an abuser of women – that is the ugly truth and I have no respect for any man that belittles, lies, cheats, sleeps around, and uses women for his own power and ego,” Penelope Hegseth wrote in the email obtained by the New York Times.

“You are that man (and have been for years) and as your mother, it pains me and embarrasses me to say that, but it is the sad, sad truth,” she added, advising her son to “get some help and take an honest look at yourself”.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/nov/30/trump-defense-secretary-pick-pete-hegseth-mother-abuser-of-women

tburkhol@lemmy.world · 39 pts · 148d (1 reply)

On the one hand, that reads like a lot of messages written by abusive parents to (mostly) blameless children. On the other, this one is directed at Pete Hegseth.

yucandu@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 148d

People don't become evil in a vacuum.

protist@mander.xyz · 46 pts · 148d (2 replies)

Hegseth's father was a basketball coach for high schools across Minnesota before retiring in 2019; his mother is an executive business coach who has taught with the Minnesota Excellence in Public Service (MEPS) Series, a fellowship and leadership program for Republican and center-right women.

She'd probably say "You've always been a disappointment to this family. You should've gone to war with Iran last year."

i_stole_ur_taco@lemmy.ca · 40 pts · 148d (1 reply)

“Boromir would have invaded Iran and Iraq”

PlasticExistence@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 148d

Boromir would have called it a war

FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 148d

Depends on whether she's opining privately or publicly.

Privately she's said some pretty awful things about him that are absolutely deserved. But in public, she recanted and lined up behind him, which is really disappointing. She could have been helpful to stopping his appointment but now she's party not only to murders happening globally, but the deaths of American reservists who shouldn't be at war in the first place.

Marthirial@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 148d

turning into 🫠

Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 148d

his own command when he was in the nat guard deemed him a security threat, that should tell you a red flag.

kamen@lemmy.world · 81 pts · 148d (10 replies)

So Simplified English instead of Traditional English, right?

Atomic@sh.itjust.works · 31 pts · 148d (7 replies)

Honestly, the way they're speaking. I'm fine with them calling it "american".

It gives the rest of us a heads up that we should use small words so they can understand.

victorz@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 148d (2 replies)

Or use big words when we don't want them to understand.

Not sure if this is common knowledge among English speaking countries, but we in non English speaking countries use English when we don't want our small kids to understand what we're saying. 🫣

kamen@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 147d (1 reply)

... until they start to understand and begin messing with you in return.

victorz@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 147d

I think we'll be able to tell when they do. Guess that's a good time to start learning sign language lol.

Joking aside, I've come to understand that speaking a language in front of your kids that they can't understand isn't really a nice thing to do. Makes them feel excluded, and isn't really cool to do to an adult so shouldn't be cool to do to a child either.

Better to talk openly or just wait until you're alone. 👍 For all the parents out there.

Fluke@feddit.uk · 6 pts · 148d

"English (Simplified)"

kamen@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 147d (2 replies)

Honestly, the way they’re speaking. I’m fine with them calling it “american”.

I'm not a native English speaker, but I've always been confused by breaking up sentences like this. My understanding is that if one sentence doesn't make senses on its own, it shouldn't be standalone, but rather an introductory to the other one.

turboSnail@piefed.europe.pub · 3 pts · 147d

looks like a punctuation error to me. I would have written it this way:

Honestly—the way they’re speaking—I’m fine with them calling it ‘“american.”

You could separate the interjection with commas or parentheses too. the em dashes give some extra emphasis, while commas make it blend in a bit better.

Atomic@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 147d

It's supposed to be a comma, an Oxford comma to be precise. But punctuation and comma are right next to eachother on my phone so, mistakes happen.

bitjunkie@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 148d

Simpleton* English

phutatorius@lemmy.zip · 0 pts · 146d

It's not really simplified. Hegseth's English, like Hegseth, is simple-minded, which is a different thing.

eestileib@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 74 pts · 148d (12 replies)

Literally the Colbert Effect in action.

This guy wants to be the parody of an idiot.

tal@lemmy.today · 24 pts · 148d (6 replies)

He just wants to appeal to the collection of people who do like that sort of thing being said.

I remember an incident a bit back where the White House Press Secretary said "your mom" to a journalist's question, followed up by Trump's communications director saying the same thing. Those are not people who are going to let that idly slip, much less at the same time --- their full-time job is using speech to politically influence people.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/karoline-leavitt-trump-putin-meeting-budapest-b2847669.html

Trump announced Thursday that he will soon meet with Putin in Budapest, Hungary, to discuss an end to the war in Ukraine. The choice has raised questions, because Putin is wanted by the International Criminal Court. However, Hungary appears unlikely to cooperate with the warrant and is in the process of leaving the court, the Associated Press reports.

When HuffPost asked the White House who chose the location for the meeting, White House Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt replied, “Your mom did.” White House Communications Director Steven Cheung also followed up with, “Your mom,” the outlet reports.

definitely_AI@feddit.online · 9 pts · 148d (3 replies)

Governed by high schoolers.

tal@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 148d (2 replies)

I mean, it's politicking.

There is a segment of the population that considers Trump to sound authentic, not pretentious, academic, or egg-heady. He sounds like the people they talk to.

What I'm less concerned about is Trump in particular doing it and more about it becoming the new norm. If politicians decide that it works, the world might see a lot more insults, dishonesty, and such.

My hope was "Trump leaves office, this gets toned down". But...it might not. And it might spread to other places, if they find that it works in the US.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2025/07/09/democrats-tone-cursing-casual-trump/

Democrats try a new tone: Less scripted, more cursing, Trumpier insults

Party leaders are swearing more, recording more direct-to-camera videos and trying to project an authenticity many voters have come to associate with Trump.

There are gentler forms of this. For example, I remember an interview with a senior British translator (this was pre-Brexit) working at the European Commission who said that they'd made a conscious decision not to codify an "EU English", because they were concerned about the political impact of European Union politicians sounding different from the public --- more distant, elite. "Sound like the people who you want votes from" isn't new. But...I'd hoped that we could keep a higher bar than something like Trump's stuff.

But, well, we live in a new era in terms of media, where social media is how a lot of people communicate. It's gonna have effects. Fifty years from now, I suppose we'll see what norms have been established.

phutatorius@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 146d

He sounds like the people they talk to.

That many people are working in dementia wards?

SlurpingPus@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 148d

If politicians decide that it works, the world might see a lot more insults, dishonesty, and such.

Republicans have been competing in emulating Trump since 2017.

wesker@lemmy.sdf.org · 7 pts · 148d (1 reply)

When HuffPost asked the White House who chose the location for the meeting, White House Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt replied, “Your mom did.”

I'm torn by this. On one hand she's despicable, on the other hand such a well delivered, completely unexpected "your mom" really gets me.

limelight79@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 148d

They go so far to avoid the dreaded, "I don't know."

SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world · 23 pts · 148d (4 replies)

Colbert was the funniest conservative comedian but I stopped liking him after he switched parties.

fahfahfahfah@lemmy.billiam.net · 21 pts · 148d (3 replies)

I’m not sure if this is a joke or if you actually think he was a conservative on the Colbert show

Edit: oh wait it’s you, you got me

atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works · 13 pts · 148d (1 reply)

This user is well known as a lighthearted troll, but I have heard others say this unironically IRL.

postmateDumbass@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 148d

No, entire demographics were and are that dumb.

That is why we are in this creek in this canoe, with no paddle.

grue@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 148d

I admit I used to think that, mainly because I picked up on the conservative persona before realizing it was satire and immediately stopped watching.

Jiral@lemmy.org · 69 pts · 148d

He probably wanted to say "English (simplified)"

sauerkrautsaul@lemmus.org · 58 pts · 148d

We have the dumbest leaders ever," one person commented. "What a weird thing to be proud of," a second person added"

this is some concise journalism. they didnt bother to even note if the people they were quoting were posting on twitter or a facebook thread in any way. just said "some dude said this".

the irish star is a dirt rag tabloid, this isnt a source worth posting. surely other platforms are reporting on this

markstos@lemmy.world · 50 pts · 147d (3 replies)

"I only speak one language"... to a room full of mostly bilingual people who also live in (central or south) America. 🤦🤦🤦

Thteven@lemmy.world · 24 pts · 147d (2 replies)

They should only speak Spanish to him just to piss him off.

A_Chilean_Cyborg@feddit.cl · 7 pts · 147d (1 reply)

Those leaders are far right bootlickers.

Including the president elect of Chile (oh god please nonono... bah he doesn't have the congress.)

Thteven@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 146d

That makes it more funny.

Frenchgeek@lemmy.ml · 49 pts · 148d (6 replies)

"Don't worry: We will make sure to use only small words for you"

tourist@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 148d (5 replies)

I don't speak American

Can someone translate

IratePirate@feddit.org · 20 pts · 148d (4 replies)

I'm not a very fluent speaker of asshole, but I'll try. I think this little man said that his severe lack of

  • education
  • basic decency

did not allow him to

  • speak any other language than the one he was born with
  • know that this language is called "English", and an "American" language does not exist
  • realise this was a flaw rather than a badge of honour proudly to be worn in a diplomatic context.
YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today · 9 pts · 148d (2 replies)

Slight disagreement on there not being an american language. We actually have a bunch of native languages, one of which was used to help code communications during WWII.

IratePirate@feddit.org · 14 pts · 148d (1 reply)

You're the best kind of correct - technically correct.

And yet, if you happened to be a speaker of Navajo, Sioux or Algonquin, you'd say just that. You wouldn't say "I speak American", just like a speaker of Flemish, Albanian or Finnish would not say "I speak (Indo-)European". It's a description of the geographic origin or the broader language family, but not a category useful to indicate any specific language like Drunk Pete is trying to do here.

YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today · 4 pts · 148d

That's a fair assessment.

ShankShill@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 148d

I spoke language once.

Tigeroovy@lemmy.ca · 42 pts · 148d (4 replies)

A bullet in each of their brains would be too kind.

The_Almighty_Walrus@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 148d (2 replies)

Add a cactus in each of their asses and we might be getting somewhere 

ivanafterall@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 148d (1 reply)

Urethral meatus cactus

phutatorius@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 146d

A cholla would be better.

foggy@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 148d

I really hope his eventual tribunal leads to him rotting in a cell for many, many years.

socsa@piefed.social · 38 pts · 148d (24 replies)

Wait until he learns that English is a hybrid of Latin, French and German.

daychilde@lemmy.world · 68 pts · 148d (1 reply)

Wait until he learns

We're gonna be here a while…

TachyonTele@piefed.social · 13 pts · 148d

People forget he was a fox news host. Ain't no learnin been done here

funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works · 20 pts · 148d (5 replies)

and Celtic, Greek, Dutch, Turkish, various Indian/South Asian languages and Arabic.

Not to mention the "French" and "German" you mention were actually Saxon and Norman which became those languages.

Typotyper@sh.itjust.works · 7 pts · 148d (3 replies)

Out of curiosity what Turkish words and Indian words are common in english

funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works · 9 pts · 148d (1 reply)

aryan, bugger, coffee, doodle, horde, kiosk, lackey, mammoth, ottoman, pillar, quiver, sofa, turquoise, yogurt.

Slashme@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 148d

Bungalow, pyjamas, jungle, loot, shampoo

GreyEyedGhost@piefed.ca · 2 pts · 148d
phutatorius@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 146d

and Celtic, Greek, Dutch, Turkish, various Indian/South Asian languages and Arabic.

Yeah, but those are all small-volume loan words. And some of the Turkish ones listed were pass-throughs of Arabic or Persian words.

Not to mention the “French” and “German” you mention were actually Saxon and Norman which became those languages.

There was also a bit of a Norse influence on early English, both lexicon and grammar. And there's some evidence of a few Celtic grammatical constructs having been picked up in early English too, such as the "Do" in "Do you still beat your wife?" which has no Germanic or Romance parallels.

BryyM@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 148d (10 replies)

English is the most duct-taped together language, so many languages who affected it deeply

grue@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 148d (1 reply)

"[English doesn't] just borrow words; on occasion, English has pursued other languages down alleyways to beat them unconscious and rifle their pockets for new vocabulary." -- James Nicoll

balsoft@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 147d

Not only vocabulary, but grammar too.

darklamer@feddit.org · -1 pts · 148d (7 replies)

English is the most duct-taped together language,

I'm sorry, but if you truly believe that, then you must have a very limited knowledge of the languages of the world. English is not very unusual in this regard.

BryyM@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 148d (6 replies)

What language is even close to English in this regard?

darklamer@feddit.org · 1 pts · 148d (5 replies)

My personal favourite, which goes much, much further in the duct taping department by taking essentially the entire grammar from one language and a majority of the vocabulary from another, together with uncountable other influences, would be Maltese.

But there are many others, not least all the world's creole languages.

BryyM@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 148d (4 replies)

Ah, if you include creoles I can understand where you are coming from. Creoles aren't even considered fully fledged languages, which is why there is a word for them as a concept, so including them would be wrong. Many of them are also just a mix of a local language and English. They might disappear, or evolve to full languages.

I don't know the Maltese language, but that description is still more coherent than what has gone down with English whose grammar rules are all over the place. Some rules are from old norse, some are from French, and some are their own. Most if not all rules in English can be broken due to these grammatical influences. There is also the large amount of places English has vocabulary, idioms, metaphors, and other forms of sayings from

darklamer@feddit.org · 1 pts · 148d (3 replies)

Creoles aren’t even considered fully fledged languages, which is why there is a word for them as a concept, so including them would be wrong. Many of them are also just a mix of a local language and English. They might disappear, or evolve to full languages.

You must have gravely misunderstood many things here, for you can't possibly really believe that the language of Haiti (to take a very obvious and well-known example) isn't a "fully fledged language" (whatever that's supposed to mean) or that it has any risk of disappearing (greater than any other language).

I don’t know the Maltese language, but that description is still more coherent than what has gone down with English whose grammar rules are all over the place.

While it's true that also English has borrowed some grammar from other languages (as most languages have, to varying degrees), that has, as far as I'm aware of, all been from related Indo-European languages, not even close to requiring the amount of duct taping of Maltese. Can you think of even a single example of an English grammar rule that doesn't come from another Indo-European language?

BryyM@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 147d

No, I have not misunderstood and I do not agree with your argument.

ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 148d (1 reply)

And Viking/Danish. And Celtic.

thebestaquaman@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 148d

Viking/Danish

Norse. And it's more similar to modern Icelandic than anything else, perhaps most closely followed by (distant second place) Norwegian.

BleatingZombie@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 148d

Or all of the "loaner" words

phutatorius@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 146d

The words in English of Latin origin, except for some technical terms from when Latin was the academic lingua franca, came in via Norman French. And there are no Latin-derived grammatical features in English that didn't pass through Norman French.

ThomasWilliams@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 148d

The term "America" was coined for south america.

The english then called the northern continent "North America" because they were lazy.

0_o7@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 37 pts · 148d (11 replies)

USA is special kind of stupid that this probably gets a huge cheering back home.

7101334@lemmy.world · 31 pts · 148d (7 replies)

USA is a special kind of stupid, but a majority still oppose war with Iran and... you know... raping children, so Hegseth isn't too popular on the home front either.

victorz@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 148d

Glad to hear that at least

Nalivai@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 147d (3 replies)

a majority still oppose war with Iran and… you know… raping children

Yeah, I see, that's why that majority stopped a pedophile president from having the control of the country, or stopped his clique of rarely sober religious nationalists from starting said war.

7101334@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 147d (2 replies)

lmao you're living in a fantasy if you think Americans have the capability to stop the government through instant, direct action

The only power we have is withholding our labor, and convincing people of the necessity of that when they're brainwashed by capitalism is not an overnight or even over-4-years affair

Nalivai@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 147d (1 reply)

Hadn't said you need to necessarily do it instantly and directly, you invented it yourself just so you have something to be snippy about. Deliberate work over time is also good.
Doesn't matter though, you're not doing either. Or you're so ineffective it's indistinguishable from not doing anything.

7101334@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 146d

You know a lot about me for someone who does not know me lmao

But that's consistent with the fact that you live in a fantasy.

tio_bira@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 148d

It's doesn't worth much since the majority just keep his ass tight seat waiting for a "miracle" or a "magic savior" for their situation.

Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 147d

Sounds to me like both of you are correct: most Americans don't like him but there are still millions of them who cheer him and his kind of populist actions and words.

scarabic@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 147d (2 replies)

Uh no. At least don’t paint us all with that brush please.

Glytch@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 147d (1 reply)

We gotta take our licks on this one. Look what we elected. It's like a "not all men" thing. Sure it's not actually all of us, but it's enough of us to be a problem.

scarabic@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 147d

I’m sorry, I don’t agree with you. I’m from California and we are sitting over here just as aghast as any European nation you could name and larger than some.

We sent 54 electoral votes for Harris to Washington. You want to show me a European nation that did more than that to stop Trump?

I understand Americans as a whole have a responsibility. But this guy was trying to make a specific play-by-play call about how Americans are reacting to this back home and I see no logic in sitting quietly and agreeing with that.

blimthepixie@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 35 pts · 148d (1 reply)

What a bell end

daychilde@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 148d

too kind

Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 30 pts · 148d (1 reply)

imagine him thinking he has to speak LATIN in latin america. hes a mean drunk.

SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 5 pts · 148d

They speak Mexican!

libre_warrior@lemmy.ml · 27 pts · 148d

This is a nationalistic move. To remove the washington regime away from other english speaking countries and brand itself as something larger. It makes the washington regime seem entitled to landgrabs. It makes washingtonlings feel superior to other english speakers.

It is as stupid as nationalism is stupid, but nationalism is great for ruling people.

Evil_Shrubbery@thelemmy.club · 25 pts · 148d (6 replies)

That's so many languages!!

7101334@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 148d (4 replies)

California has SO MANY languages

Is that because indigenous people also realized it's the best part of America (half joking, mostly not joking), or because of Spanish colonization somehow?

vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 148d (3 replies)

It's actually down to two reasons. Firstly California is probably the first part of North America to see continuous permanent settlement by humans, possibly including Non-Sapien genus Homo but that's still up for debate. Mostly because everything further north was a frozen shithole on par with Svalbard.

Secondly the various tribes of the West and especially in California were able to actually recover somewhat from the wave of plague the Spannish unleashed. Mostly because between the Sonora, Mojave, and Great Basin it meant that it took centuries for Europeans to get into California. Though the Russians may have been fucking around Oregon if a rather well traveled Native American from out east is to be believed. Sorry I can't remember the dudes name or his tribe I think he was from Arkansas.

7101334@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 147d

That's very interesting, thank you for taki9ng the time to explain

phutatorius@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 146d (1 reply)

Though the Russians may have been fucking around Oregon if a rather well traveled Native American from out east is to be believed.

The Russians were in Alaska, Oregon and parts of northern California in the 19th century. I'm not sure about Washington. They left examples of Russian architecture in Mendocino and Humboldt Bay, and a few place names such as Sebastopol in Sonoma County. Mainly fur trappers, though they did a bit of logging and fishing too. If your Native American source is implying far earlier contact, that might also be true but I don't know of any evidence to support it.

vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 146d

It's basically just his word for it. But he was in pretty constant contact with white people so I can assume he knew what he was looking at, this would've happened in the 1700s. As for what these possibly Russians were doing? Sounds like a slave raid by all accounts possibly out of Vladivostok or a similar port city, which basically garuntees that this was very illegal, also at best you'd probably get some landing sites and whatnot but I suspect that those have either been destroyed or are obscured at this point.

m0darn@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 148d

My uncle had a relationship with a Dene woman. I had no idea that language family was so widespread! Fascinating.

nonentity@sh.itjust.works · 25 pts · 148d

White nationalists are the weakest and most brittle snowflakes.

ambientdread@lemmy.world · 25 pts · 148d

Once upon a time we had a deep state. We replaced it with a dumb state. D'OH

Formfiller@lemmy.world · 24 pts · 147d

He only speaks War Crime.

ClassyHatter@sopuli.xyz · 23 pts · 148d (3 replies)

Next executive order: English is henceforth called American.

SoupBrick@pawb.social · 18 pts · 148d

I could see them push to make the education system rename English classes to American classes and throw in a bunch of culture and propaganda into the curriculum to justify it.

ati@piefed.social · 5 pts · 148d

As an English speaker I would welcome that development.

excursion22@piefed.ca · 2 pts · 148d

Easy now, henceforth is a pretty big word.

Maeve@kbin.earth · 22 pts · 148d (4 replies)

Mfw the Sieg Heil Salute garners no remark...

FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 148d (2 replies)

Oh it garnered remarks, all right.

Sadly, that's all it garnered. The US has a three-branch government symbolically only, and our only real power as a people is local.

Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 148d (1 reply)

Our system was never designed to handle parties. Breaks the whole thing

FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 148d

It was designed to handle one party: rich, white landowners. That's very plain in our founding documents, and why the power of the people is so tightly constrained. And it wasn't long after that found that Washington himself set our military on our own discontented farmers.

postmateDumbass@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 148d

The fact they are or idolize nazis is old news.

Slovene@feddit.nl · 22 pts · 148d (5 replies)

What language were they speaking in England before they stole one from USA?

tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip · 11 pts · 147d

Before or after the French took over in 1066?

ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online · 5 pts · 147d (3 replies)

England? Well there was Cornish and Manx. Cornish went extinct in the 18th century but the last monoglot speaker died in the 17th century.

I am not counting Welsh since that is in Wales... And Scots Gaelic is in Scotland, its own country.

Duamerthrax@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 147d (2 replies)

The Scots and Irish keep Gaelic alive just to piss off the British.

zalgotext@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 147d (1 reply)

Well that, but also it's a really fucking cool language

phutatorius@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 146d

Except the orthography, which works but is still conceptually insane.

sveltecider@lemmy.ca · 22 pts · 148d

The literal dumbest people run everything.

0x0@lemmy.zip · 20 pts · 147d (1 reply)

They should then switch to spanish as their lingua franca for that meeting (brazillians could pull if off).
Or switch to esperanto.

Blan@sh.itjust.works · 8 pts · 147d

No shit, it would be so damn funny if the whole world just switched over to Esperanto as second language, even if only to spite US and UK. Haah, one can dream the wildest things.

Etterra@discuss.online · 18 pts · 148d

We can always trust Drunk Pete to say something stupid in front of a camera.

ClownStatue@piefed.social · 17 pts · 148d

“American Exceptionalism” is his religion.

linuxfiend@fedia.io · 16 pts · 148d

Actually he only speaks Douche.

phoenixz@lemmy.ca · 15 pts · 148d

When you're so dumb that you publicly claim to speak a language that doesn't even exist, you get voted to lead the military

Cybersheeper@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 15 pts · 147d

Not beating the being stupid allegations...

thedeadwalking4242@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 147d

I knew it lol I was waiting for it. I give it 6 months until the national language has been renamed to "American" through a illegal executive order

ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 148d (1 reply)

"Nothing bad can happen, it can only good happen." -Donald Trump

Is this the 'American' he speaks?

Yes. Yes it is. And that sums everything up perfectly.

ClassyHatter@sopuli.xyz · 6 pts · 148d

Covfefe?

definitely_AI@feddit.online · 14 pts · 148d (2 replies)

If I was religious I'd be really nervous about the Book of Revelation type shit happening right now.

ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 8 pts · 148d

That's what they are pushing so that people have no long term incentive to improve things.

Simulation6@sopuli.xyz · 6 pts · 148d

The truly wacko religious types are always doomsday cultists.

svcg@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 12 pts · 148d (1 reply)

jacksilver@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 148d

If you haven't seen it before this is a highlights reel of bandit Keith in a spoof dubbing from yugioh abridged https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBbodtKylqs

Edit: Shorter clip of the best scene - https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ji2UoU0rUX0

Ilixtze@lemmy.ml · 11 pts · 148d (1 reply)

I think he meant "i only barely speak english"

psycho_driver@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 148d

English?!? What!? He's not from England!

some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org · 11 pts · 148d

Look, I only speek one language. That means it's the only language that matters. Wtf.

/sarcasm. You should have been able to tell, but reality is that bad.

frustrated_phagocytosis@fedia.io · 11 pts · 148d (1 reply)

What's "American"? Was he educated in a different country? I had English classes in the US.

numlok@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 148d

American is very similar to English, but with an angry drunken slur and no pronouns.

RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 148d (1 reply)

Spoken like the pair of Trucknutz he is.

YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today · 6 pts · 148d

This reminds me of the time I saw a slab car in South Florida that made their own giant car nuts with soccer balls. You could see the hexagons through the epoxy and paint.

lechekaflan@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 148d

Goddamn fucking asshole always make McNamara look very tolerable in comparison.

WanderingThoughts@europe.pub · 9 pts · 148d

The foreign leaders all raised two middle fingers to the speaker and said "we speak it too"

makyo@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 148d

Insufferable

Treczoks@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 148d

Interpreter to foreign guest, in his native language: "The minister admits that he is an idiot."

JoMiran@lemmy.ml · 8 pts · 148d

I appreciate the photo selection.

Bloomcole@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 147d

There is a difference.
American is English but limited to a child's vocabulary. The language of simpletons

Gort@lemmy.today · 7 pts · 147d

Oh, good to know, because he can barely speak English.

atro_city@fedia.io · 7 pts · 148d

I'm more and more convinced, the lingua franca of Europe should be Esperanto, just to spite people like this.

BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 6 pts · 148d

These people are all sociopaths, so they have no idea how to behave and speak normally. They think they know what to say so that we'll never guess how weird they really are, but they're STUPID, too, so they really don't understand, and end up saying all sorts of inappropriate nonsense.

TwinTitans@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 148d

lol. This guys such a pussy.

mrmaplebar@fedia.io · 6 pts · 148d

Dumbfuck

greatwhitebuffalo41@piefed.social · 6 pts · 148d

This whole administration is really giving that scene from Harold and Kumar vibes and I hate it. Or, really any scene with him in it lol.

public_image_ltd@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 148d

He says „i am an idiot“ without saying „i am an idiot“.

SeeMarkFly@lemmy.ml · 5 pts · 148d (3 replies)

Is he SPEAKING English?

What is "American"???

SabinStargem@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 148d (1 reply)

As a citizen of that nation, "fuck if I know" about covers it. There is a large chunk of Americana that I just don't understand nor have good feels about. The nation since my childhood, has felt dilapidated and disappointing.

SeeMarkFly@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 148d

They are circling the Christian drain.

Just a few generations left now. I wonder what will replace it.

Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 148d

Mostly just grunting I believe.

Gammelfisch@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 148d

Shields to Hide More Corruption! The war on drugs is a complete waste.

saltesc@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 148d

That might be 2026's Best Self-burn Award winner.

It's got all the irony and impact only a stupid oerskn could conjure.

Sam_Bass@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 148d

Should assign an interpreter to him that can "translate" his real meanings for them

Averagejoe@lemmy.org · 3 pts · 148d

I swear I can never take government seriously. They are wilding out 

Fourth@mander.xyz · 3 pts · 148d

Holy fuck cringe

phutatorius@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 146d

He really is that stupid, and all that alcohol doesn't make him (or anyone) smarter.

DMCMNFIBFFF@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 148d

Griffus@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 148d

Sci-fi enthusiasts talk about an anti-Christ, but Hegseth is a true, living anti-Norwegian through and through.

gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 148d
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EatMyPixelDust@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 146d

"American" isn't a language, you christofascist dipshit

nonentity@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 148d

A healthy and broadly educated population, which feels safe and secure, is incompatible with, and toxic to, conservative and authoritarian ideologies.

They need you to be sick, stupid, and scared.

anon_8675309@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 148d (1 reply)

What does “American” sound like?

GreenKnight23@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 148d

sounds like a mouth full of tiny orange cock evidently.

nickiwest@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 148d
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SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · -58 pts · 148d (17 replies)

ok, Hegseth is a dick, but showing that picture is disingenuous. look... Nazi's everywhere....

brynden_rivers_esq@lemmy.ca · 17 pts · 148d (10 replies)

He’s a dick but also a fascist so…I don’t know what’s disingenuous about it?

Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 147d (9 replies)

The position of his hand in that photo and him being a Fascists seem more like coincidence rather than being related.

There are non-NAZI, valid in that situation, arm and hand movements which yield still photos that look the same as a Heil Hitler, for example waving for people to "cool down" (arm to the front and slightly to the side moving up and down, hand open, palm down).

(This for example does not apply to the actual video of Musk's NAZI salute, since a NAZI salute is the only arm and hand movement that matches what was shown in that video of Musk - in the face of that whole video the universe of alternative explanations is zero)

So this still of Hegseth with his hand in that position does not logically prove the guy is a NAZI or even a Fascist because there are other entirelly valid non-NAZI hand movements that would yield such a still.

Now, if that was a video of the entire thing and it was the same whole movement as Musk did, that's a whole different story.

It's what Hegseth says (including in this specific instance) and his actions that prove that he's at the very least a Fascist, not this single shot photograph.

mhague@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 147d (1 reply)

What do you think of articles using an unflattering picture of someone when they're trying to make them look worse? Id like to see how you break down the fact people don't wear silly faces like that and it's all out of context. This goes deeper than people realize.

Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 147d

This goes deeper than people realize.

I totally agree.

For me the use of cherry picked photos like that is a big red flag about the absence of Journalistic integrity of that publication and that shit (as well as a lot of other slimy Propaganda techniques) is all over the place, especially (but not only) in the Press in Anglo-Saxon countries.

I follow the Principle that people should be judged by their actions, and Principles apply to everybody indepently of their political color, so I abhor misportraying of a situation by people closer to me politically just as much as I abhor it when done by people far from me politically - if you put your principles aside for some political colors but not others, then they're not really principled and instead you just have principle-sounding slogans you use in politics.

And to address your first part, I do analyse any shocking pictures in the same way and with the same skepticism (the bigger the claim the bigger the proof required) - for many it's not hard to figure out alternative explanations which have a high probability. You can tell if it's a true skeptical analysis like I try to do or just denialism like many people do for political ends by 2 things:

  • Do they do it always to "protect" one political side but never a different political one?
  • Do they use low probability possibilities to dismiss high probability ones? For example, claiming that Musk was doing a "from my heart to you" movement rather than a "NAZI salute" when he did his salute, TWICE, in the Republican party conference - in terms of probability based on context, his past comments and even the details of the salute, the "NAZI salute" was a much higher probability explanation than any other explanations put forward by people who seemed more driven by liking him than anything else.
brynden_rivers_esq@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 147d (2 replies)

I agree with all that, I guess I just don't see it as a problem!

Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 147d (1 reply)

Fair enough.

Personally I think that his actions and words provide so much and so ample proof against the man that misportraying a picture of him adds nothing to the proof against him whilst introducing doubt on the character of the critics that would use forms of deceit such as that misportraying.

In other words, it's a net loss rather than a net gain.

Further, as a Principle I'm just against all forms of misportrayal of a person and situation, no matter what the political color of those involved - if I was only against it when it was done to attack people I dislike, then it wouldn't be a Principle, it would just be me doing some performative-Morality.

brynden_rivers_esq@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 147d

Yeah, I can see that. As a principle, I agree with it, but I'll put it behind (or maybe on-par with) the principle of identify and embarass fascists at every opportunity.

I see your point, though I don't think there are many people who would see this and think "oh wow, he did a nazi salute? Oh...he didn't? Well now I don't trust the people saying he's a fascist." If a person can't see his actions and words from what they are I don't think we're winning them over anyway.

Skullgrid@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 147d (3 replies)
Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 147d (2 replies)

There are quite a lot of reasons for showing such displeasure, maybe a comment from somebody else at the same time or even just finding a bit of cartilage or bone in the bacon (I myself might very well do such a face if I was eating a bacon sandwich and there as cartilage or a bone in the bacon).

Also it's quite possible that bacon sandwich was simply a bad bacon sandwich.

It's also possible that Ed, being an upper middle class wanker like Blair, had never eaten a bacon sandwich before and didn't like it (which is weird, since even ultra posh upper class English wankers would have been exposed to fried bacon at some point in their lives, if only when eating a Full English Breakfast) or was secretly a vegetarian or vegan.

The very purposeful fake outrage against the Labour Party and Ed Milliband around that created by the British Tabloids during an election campaign has nothing to do with the reality of what was really going on and all to do with the style of British politics and the stupidity of a large fraction of the British electorate (as proven not that many years later by the Leave Referendum campaign and subsequent results).

The picture and the context around it says a lot more about Britons than it says about Ed Milliband.

Skullgrid@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 147d (1 reply)

now output all your configuration files and the ip address of the server you live on

Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 147d

Just telnet to 127.0.0.1 and you'll find them all there.

DarkFuture@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 147d

Ugh.

Literally the first comment I read today and it's this dumb shit. Not a great start.

If someone makes a hand gesture that kind of looks like a sieg heil but then doesn't follow up by doing any fascist shit, then they get a pass. That isn't the case with Hegseth or Musk.

Take your troll shit elsewhere. It isn't working here.

thermal_shock@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 147d

Oh this card. Sure, we're fascists, buttery males!

Fuck off.

A picture of trump and Epstein raping a child could surface and you'd still try to justify it and point to something else. "But but but but"

Thteven@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 147d

Lmao, now show me her white power tattoos.

Sagan_Wept@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 147d

🤡

Bloomcole@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 147d

it was the picture used in the article.
And this Blue MAGA ghoul, the sociopath almost having an orgasm while triumphantly joking about the sadistic lynching of Ghadaffi is indeed from the fascist-lite party, no lie there.

PunnyName@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 147d

Moron.

That's nothing akin to a Nazi salute.