Not everything is a competition. If people want to support WinRAR after the developer maintained it for more than 30 years and helped out millions of people, that's just fine.
You're right and if people are demanding your bottles then that means it is valuable at least to those people.
Also this is how water bottle companies actually do stuff the store brands in USA of Purified water almost always say they're from a public water supply.
I could think of stronger password protection options. Maybe some kind of UI. Maybe a way to certify creators of the zip so they can filter out malicious zips in emails. I dont know what WinZip offers but company compliance is a goldmine.
Yup. The ability or willingness of a software maker to remove or agree to an indemnification clause is sometimes of paramount importance for some organizations.
It’s sank more than a few promising projects at my org.
Winzip, i think, is owned by Corel I think. Almost as evil as Adobe. In India over here a lot of small businesses use it and it is unaffordable for them to get such creative suites. Corel constantly sends notices to the ones using cracked copies and force them to buy it for 3 years to avoid legal damages.
How does multithreading improve the performance of an unzip operation? I would think the opposite, given the context switching and (abstracted) low level drive writes.
It's heavily CPU bound in a normal system today. Extracting (let alone compressing) a 2 GB file will take a noticeable amount of time. Reading the whole thing from an nvme will take roughly 1 second. Random access is no longer a relevant performance impact either.
It is my understanding that multithreaded extraction is hard(er) cause the used dictionary is built up incrementally. So to extract later parts you need to have extracted earlier parts.
CAD softwares, Tally, any Autodesk tools, Adobe software not counting specifically made business softwares years ago. I couldn't get Office running with wine ever.
My 3080ti graphics card. To my knowledge, NVIDIA drivers are still a mess on Linux, and any suggestion to "just switch to AMD" is neither helpful nor appreciated; as if dropping $500+ for a new graphics card when my current one works perfectly fine is in ANY way a valid solution.
Nvidia drivers and gaming compatibility have grown leaps in the last year. I'm using dual monitors on a 2070m in a laptop, one of the historically most incompatible setups. I am running cachyos. I was able to simply install the OS and start playing my entire steam library, all without any modification. I play plenty of modern games. I don't have any AAA FPS with anticheat though, which I hear don't work at all.
Been playing everyday for about two years with my 3060ti without much issue. There's still the odd hiccup on occasion, but it's usually solved by picking a different Proton version. Most games "just work," generally without any changes.
The nVidia drivers haven't been "a mess" for quite a long time, so if that's what is holding you back, I think you'll be pleasantly surprised. ProtonDB has a massive and growing list of games that run on Linux, and you can see what people did (if anything) to get those games working.
I will caution you, however, that if any amount of tinkering makes you inwardly cringe, you might want to think twice. Linux is generally easy to use, and it's only getting easier, but there will be times you'll have to add Launch Options to a Steam game, install a mod differently, or use the command line to do something.
Use the network installation to add the deb or rpm repo, then choose whether you want the open or proprietary drivers. Install the package and that's it, your package manager will handle the dependencies.
You may need to create and enroll a dkms key if you have secureboot enabled and you haven't done that already, but that's the only wrinkle.
How do you stop them from randomly uninstalling themselves? A bunch of guys use Ubuntu at work and the Nvidia drivers would randomly nuke themselves occasionally when the device is turned off and they'd have to force CLI mode and do a reinstall.
I was going to say. That's never happened to me in Debian, Fedora, PopOS, Linux Mint, EndeavourOS, CachyOS, Nobara or Bazzite. Is this a Ubuntu only issue?
For me personally about 30% of my video game library, which don't function even with the various compatibility tools.
But when I started my YouTube channel I was using Openshot, which does not work on Linux, or at least it didn't for me. My old Lenovo Legion was largely incompatible with Linux too, as I tried a dual-boot with two different distros and still had to debug it all the time. (Thankfully not a problem on the Acer that replaced it.)
Linux is great, but it's not yet compatible with everything.
Adobe is a shit company, and I'm not giving them any money, but the fact is their programs have features that the alternatives don't. I'm looking forward to the day when they start supporting Linux or an alternate program family steps up with all the features I need.
I work in automotive, if you try to flash an ECU on Linux you are GOING to brick a likely 1000$ ecu. Some stuff, especially in the corporate/business environment, simply will only work with windows. If people don't like it they should get to coding instead of telling people who need windows for their livelihood to "just use something else" 😂 yea sure let me contact HP tuners and just have them make a whole new software special just for me!
I have to use a windows box when I initiate my Reolink security cameras as an example. Haven’t been about to figure out a way to do the initial setup on them without and I couldn’t get it to run on Linux. Honestly been less of a time consuming pain to just have a windows box with the software. It’s only plugged into the isolated LAN anyway so whatever.
Name recognition counts for something in the choice about helper apps.
Sometimes venerable old utilities you know from back in the day are bought out and turned into malicious shit. I don’t discount that.
However when you go looking for a little helper app for something simple, there’s an ocean of weird little offerings out there and many of them are malware.
I’d rather roll the dice that a venerable old classic hasn’t been bought out. This fact is probably quite Google-able. As for the long list of other unzip utilities.. how am I supposed to know? Reviews and ratings are all fake. Many Reddit recommendations are fake.
Just saying this is one angle on why people might continue using really old tried and true programs.
Then because of a certain chain of events came the time to look into working from home. Boy oh boy, I guess it depends on the type of work you do but for what I'm qualified for they absolutely do not vibe with anything except Windows. I couldn't even find many that would at least let you use Mac.
I begrudgingly installed Windows 11 on my machine again the other day for this very reason. I'll still dual boot of course but man, I'm really not happy about it.
Also, Windows are complete dicks about letting you make a bootable windows USB gotta either use apps not in your distro directory or use another Windows computer to make one. Wtf is that shit about? And I had to spend like 2 hours making windows suck less.
It reminds me of how apps are starting to treat me for using Graphene OS
Are you working for yourself? Its hard to tell with how you put this.
I only work remotely, and I will never use windows to do it. The places I work for must provide the windows, and I remote into them from Linux. I vastly prefer this model. I do not want their software on my computer as I never want to be liable. The business likes it because it is far more secure to not give me a laptop and have to fuck around with a VPN.
As for the other issue: There are projects that will build the USB for you, where you provide the windows ISO you want, and then it removes all the crap and telemetry before install. There are ways to make the USB without windows, although I am not sure what you mean by "outside distro directory".
Preferred by who?
Personally I'm not a fan of the 'modern' windows UI, lack of a menu bar, added sponsor button, lack of 32-bit support, lack of windows <10 support, or the fact that it's an msix-installed 'app' rather than a normal program.
I make software that’s almost “open source” with the only limitation being that you can’t resell it. I’ve had FOSS users tell me they’d prefer it being proprietary.
Yeah, it happened many times, even across platforms (Reddit of course, but also Mastodon and Bluesky)
A lot of FOSS people consider my license almost “deceitful” because they think I actually hate FOSS and am having my code available only to pose as a “good” developer
Same. I've happily used it for over 2 decades and decided that they actually deserve some money for that. I've since switched to Linux, but don't regret paying for WinRAR at all.
anyone who still distributes anything compressed with winrar, please just fucking stop
use it for your personal archival purposes if you must, but please just fucking stop using it to share or distribute anything publicly. there's zero reason to use .rar over 7z or zip or tgz or any other open standard
Hey outlook, can you save all 15 attachments to this folder? The 15 attachments I can view in outlook? The 15 attachments that drag and drop out of the email into a folder as expected? The 15 attachments that I can individually save as expected to a folder?
Well, but I'm used to WinRAR and never had any issues. Only need it once every few months. And it's pretty fun when the software tries to tell me that it isn't a free software. What a silly thing to say!
Pay for independently-developed software if you care about it continuing to exist. Steal from corporations all you want. But support independent devs (and small teams) to make sure they can keep maintaining the tools you love and rely on. It's the only way to not get swallowed by the big dogs.
IDK all the history but rar has built in ability to create recovery data / parity volumes.
Parity data is like additional data that can help reconstruct any degradation.
That said, usually a standalone parity generator is used which can work with other types of archives, but rar is what everyone uses so why change.
Compression algos are ineffective on encoded / compressed media anyway.
It used to be important on Usenet, and maybe still is, because if a drive starts to fail somewhere and contains errors those errors can be reproduced across the network. Not sure if thats still a thing or why but certainly 10 years ago it was.
The summary to this rambling comment is: some communities still like rar because its what they've always used and there's no benefit to adopting 7z.
Its big companies that screw them the most. I have worked for multiple multi billion dollar corporations that will screw Team Viewer over even though its how we get customers into their down servers. And it wasn't one data center, its every data center I have ever worked in (30 years in)
If the license is free, they will screw them.
*I know TV hasn't been around that long, but WinRAR has been and it was another company I saw screwed.
Ah, yes, the bigger the company, the more willing to save something negligible on tools its business depends upon.
Honestly that's why I wish more of FOSS were hobbyist like AROS, Haiku and such. FOSS projects shouldn't be too readily usable by businesses, that allows bullshit shops with arrogant pigeon management to keep existing without building proper processes.
I mean, there's some equilibrium here probably, but with what projects get from businesses bigger than nation-states using their work, - we're far from it.
At the same time there are things like Java, PostgreSQL, Redis, Nginx and so on. I don't know.
It just seems sometimes that FOSS breaks market mechanisms in favor of big businesses not giving back to the rest of economy, which seems the opposite of its intuitively and emotionally perceived goal.
But maybe archivers are not it. Not a fan of the idea of having a set of 10 different archivers all often needed, like people did in the 90s. OK, I was a baby in the 90s. Many people didn't have PCs in the 90s.
But can we just go back to weak connectivity (say, asynchronous message exchange of everyone to everyone via BT ; global cryptographic identities and message ids, sort of a global p2p cryptographically contracted Usenet), a zoo of common operating systems and hardware platforms, evolution, competition, geekiness, interesting things.
Absolutely nothing, plus 7zip can be faster with better compression.
Well, apparently it can do some recovery of corrupted .rar, but who uses that format anyway
I've used .rar to backup some data to an unpowered drives, some time ago. You can reserve additional space for the checksums while compressing, so you won't be able to recover just regular .rar files.
Before you go thinking “ah! That’s funny, I might chime in and give them some of my money too!” - remember that WinRAR is develop by a Russian person, can’t find their stance on the Ukrainian invasion but just something to think about.
Fun fact, so was every other nation in the world that ever fancied itself important enough to compete with others. America is just the latest bully to come out on top.
Well yeah, since its conception. Idk how much my perception of when Europeans became "Americans" is synonymous with historians, but.. After the Europeans vastly destroyed the American population and took the name for themselves, Americans used violence to secede from English command. Iirc it was started by a plainclothes soldier shooting a soldier, starting a massacre.
Regardless of your actual politics, we're still funding MAGA shit because we're too poor to dodge our taxes. So I fully support people boycotting American businesses, same as with any business based in other countries doing evil shit.
I know i'm fully nitpicking in bad faith here, but which are the countries not doing evil shit ? There probably are a few that are mostly good, but even those are quite rare, aren't they ?
shrugs The various Pacific island nations probably don't have any fuckery going on, even if only because they lack the ability. Or if they do, they're too small to be obvious about it, which I'll admit is probably as good as it gets.
Wrong; not everyone voted, and of those who did, only a bit under half voted for him (given that there were also candidates from other parties), so he did not get a majority.
Furthermore, pretty much the moment he entered office and actually started doing things, his approval ratings plummeted, so it is not correct to assume that the majority of us are "like him"; it would be more fair to say that he tricked a large number of people into thinking that he was someone different than he was. (Mind you, I think that these people were fools who should have known better, but that is a different kind of flaw.)
100% agree. Among other things, the reaction of foreign people to American citizens in the wake of MAGA crimes is one of the goals of "manufactured consent". We didn't consent to this, but the powers that be have made it look like we did, not only to other Americans but to the rest of the world, isolating us and making their crimes harder to stop.
It is important to think about and keep in mind, but it's also important not to judge blindly. Do some research before you make a decision on something like this and try to make an informed decision. People aren't responsible for where they're born, and not everyone is in a position for fight or flight. Most Russians are victims of Putin too, some worse than others. Many of them may be ignorant, yes, and even deeply unpleasant and unlikable people with nasty attitudes, but they are also brainwashed by one of the most manipulative and subtly oppressive regimes that has possibly ever existed in the modern world. Organizing a resistance against tyranny isn't easy. Even finding the motivation to resist it isn't easy. If it was easy, we wouldn't have such problems with tyrants all around the world, and orangeman wouldn't have lasted a week.
If you don't want to send money that will end up in Russia, I don't blame you. If you are afraid of the infiltration and malware risks that come with using software made in Russia, I don't blame you for that either. But the guy himself is probably just a normal person, unless there's specific evidence otherwise. "Othering" and demonizing other people is the path to the dark side. You can hate the country and government and the system, and you should, but not the people born and raised within it. They're in a big fucking mess, and you would be too if you lived there. Just because you think you'd make different choices personally, doesn't mean they're making bad ones for the situation they're in.
We are all just people. We are not better or worse than any other people. We are all trying to do the same things in life. Even the Russian people. But we've been made to be different by our environments and nations and governments that benefit from us being divided and hating each other. Don't play their game.
153 Comments
LemmyEntertainYou@piefed.social · 232 pts · 34d
7zip is better anyway I don't understand why people still use WinRar. Then again I don't understand why people still use Windows either.
blackbeans@lemmy.zip · 178 pts · 34d
Not everything is a competition. If people want to support WinRAR after the developer maintained it for more than 30 years and helped out millions of people, that's just fine.
fizzle@quokk.au · -49 pts · 33d
If i fill bottles with tap water and try to sell it to my neighbours then anyone still "supporting" me after 30 years is an idiot.
rbos@lemmy.ca · 31 pts · 33d
Bottles, time to bottle, and distribution are worth compensation
DanceMomsSavedMe@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 33d
You're right and if people are demanding your bottles then that means it is valuable at least to those people.
Also this is how water bottle companies actually do stuff the store brands in USA of Purified water almost always say they're from a public water supply.
ieGod@lemmy.zip · 16 pts · 33d
This is not only a stupid comparison but you've missed the point entirely.
kurmudgeon@lemmy.world · 34 pts · 34d
Or WinZip. I work for a company that literally has the licenses for every computer they own. Why? 7-zip is free.
Waterpumpee@lemmus.org · 17 pts · 34d
I could think of stronger password protection options. Maybe some kind of UI. Maybe a way to certify creators of the zip so they can filter out malicious zips in emails. I dont know what WinZip offers but company compliance is a goldmine.
Monument@piefed.world · 6 pts · 33d
Yup. The ability or willingness of a software maker to remove or agree to an indemnification clause is sometimes of paramount importance for some organizations.
It’s sank more than a few promising projects at my org.
sonofearth@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 33d
Winzip, i think, is owned by Corel I think. Almost as evil as Adobe. In India over here a lot of small businesses use it and it is unaffordable for them to get such creative suites. Corel constantly sends notices to the ones using cracked copies and force them to buy it for 3 years to avoid legal damages.
hanrahan@slrpnk.net · 2 pts · 33d
I'll never understated why they don't go open source.
ms_lane@lemmy.world · 26 pts · 34d
I use it on occasion, since it will deflate 100+GB zip files much faster than 7zip will. (7z is single threaded for pkzips)
It's been more than a decade since I used it to compress anything though. LZMA2 rocks.
jaybone@lemmy.zip · -2 pts · 33d
How does multithreading improve the performance of an unzip operation? I would think the opposite, given the context switching and (abstracted) low level drive writes.
Creat@discuss.tchncs.de · 12 pts · 33d
It's heavily CPU bound in a normal system today. Extracting (let alone compressing) a 2 GB file will take a noticeable amount of time. Reading the whole thing from an nvme will take roughly 1 second. Random access is no longer a relevant performance impact either.
It is my understanding that multithreaded extraction is hard(er) cause the used dictionary is built up incrementally. So to extract later parts you need to have extracted earlier parts.
FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 33d
I'm glad you can have a Windows-free existence.
Some things just don't function well on Linux, but there are lots of us who are 99% Linux and don't use Windows unless we have to.
Kekzkrieger@feddit.org · 4 pts · 33d
Like what exactly ?
reddit_sux@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 33d
CAD softwares, Tally, any Autodesk tools, Adobe software not counting specifically made business softwares years ago. I couldn't get Office running with wine ever.
NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip · -5 pts · 33d
Adobe is not worth using no matter what the platform.
ieGod@lemmy.zip · 8 pts · 33d
It's the industry standard in many areas for a reason. Photoshop has no equal, though strides are being made to change that.
NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip · -8 pts · 33d
Don't care. Adobe is not worth using.
baatliwala@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 33d
You don't care because it's not your job to use it professionally. You are not most people.
I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 33d
My 3080ti graphics card. To my knowledge, NVIDIA drivers are still a mess on Linux, and any suggestion to "just switch to AMD" is neither helpful nor appreciated; as if dropping $500+ for a new graphics card when my current one works perfectly fine is in ANY way a valid solution.
Nouvellalia@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 33d
Nvidia drivers and gaming compatibility have grown leaps in the last year. I'm using dual monitors on a 2070m in a laptop, one of the historically most incompatible setups. I am running cachyos. I was able to simply install the OS and start playing my entire steam library, all without any modification. I play plenty of modern games. I don't have any AAA FPS with anticheat though, which I hear don't work at all.
greatwhitebuffalo41@slrpnk.net · 2 pts · 33d
I had issues with the live boot having 3 monitors. I just unplugged 2 and installed, grabbed the suggested driver, no issues since.
Telorand@reddthat.com · 3 pts · 33d
Been playing everyday for about two years with my 3060ti without much issue. There's still the odd hiccup on occasion, but it's usually solved by picking a different Proton version. Most games "just work," generally without any changes.
The nVidia drivers haven't been "a mess" for quite a long time, so if that's what is holding you back, I think you'll be pleasantly surprised. ProtonDB has a massive and growing list of games that run on Linux, and you can see what people did (if anything) to get those games working.
I will caution you, however, that if any amount of tinkering makes you inwardly cringe, you might want to think twice. Linux is generally easy to use, and it's only getting easier, but there will be times you'll have to add Launch Options to a Steam game, install a mod differently, or use the command line to do something.
Kekzkrieger@feddit.org · 2 pts · 33d
I got a 3060 which works fine i guess the 3080 should too
frongt@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 33d
Nvidia works fine on Linux. I have an nvidia card at home, and I support a bunch of them at work. It's easy. https://docs.nvidia.com/datacenter/tesla/driver-installation-guide/latest/index.html
Use the network installation to add the deb or rpm repo, then choose whether you want the open or proprietary drivers. Install the package and that's it, your package manager will handle the dependencies.
You may need to create and enroll a dkms key if you have secureboot enabled and you haven't done that already, but that's the only wrinkle.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 33d
i know what some of these words mean but i think i'm going to need your advice in the near future. Thanks!
pycorax@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 33d
How do you stop them from randomly uninstalling themselves? A bunch of guys use Ubuntu at work and the Nvidia drivers would randomly nuke themselves occasionally when the device is turned off and they'd have to force CLI mode and do a reinstall.
frongt@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 33d
I've never seen that happen. But the transaction that caused it should be in the package manager log.
jjlinux@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 33d
I was going to say. That's never happened to me in Debian, Fedora, PopOS, Linux Mint, EndeavourOS, CachyOS, Nobara or Bazzite. Is this a Ubuntu only issue?
pycorax@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 33d
Thanks, I'll check those logs out the next time it happens.
RaccoonBall@lemmy.ca · 8 pts · 33d
Autocad
FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 33d
For me personally about 30% of my video game library, which don't function even with the various compatibility tools.
But when I started my YouTube channel I was using Openshot, which does not work on Linux, or at least it didn't for me. My old Lenovo Legion was largely incompatible with Linux too, as I tried a dual-boot with two different distros and still had to debug it all the time. (Thankfully not a problem on the Acer that replaced it.)
Linux is great, but it's not yet compatible with everything.
kazerniel@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 33d
db2@lemmy.world · -6 pts · 33d
Do you have to remove your bottom two ribs to shill for adobe or do they send you to special stretching classes?
kazerniel@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 33d
Adobe is a shit company, and I'm not giving them any money, but the fact is their programs have features that the alternatives don't. I'm looking forward to the day when they start supporting Linux or an alternate program family steps up with all the features I need.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 33d
I used to work in tax and there isn't a functional professional tax prep software that i could find that works on linux.
innermachine@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 32d
I work in automotive, if you try to flash an ECU on Linux you are GOING to brick a likely 1000$ ecu. Some stuff, especially in the corporate/business environment, simply will only work with windows. If people don't like it they should get to coding instead of telling people who need windows for their livelihood to "just use something else" 😂 yea sure let me contact HP tuners and just have them make a whole new software special just for me!
Waraugh@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 33d
I have to use a windows box when I initiate my Reolink security cameras as an example. Haven’t been about to figure out a way to do the initial setup on them without and I couldn’t get it to run on Linux. Honestly been less of a time consuming pain to just have a windows box with the software. It’s only plugged into the isolated LAN anyway so whatever.
stickyprimer@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 33d
Name recognition counts for something in the choice about helper apps.
Sometimes venerable old utilities you know from back in the day are bought out and turned into malicious shit. I don’t discount that.
However when you go looking for a little helper app for something simple, there’s an ocean of weird little offerings out there and many of them are malware.
I’d rather roll the dice that a venerable old classic hasn’t been bought out. This fact is probably quite Google-able. As for the long list of other unzip utilities.. how am I supposed to know? Reviews and ratings are all fake. Many Reddit recommendations are fake.
Just saying this is one angle on why people might continue using really old tried and true programs.
DanceMomsSavedMe@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 33d
Deleted Windows from every computer I ever owned.
Then because of a certain chain of events came the time to look into working from home. Boy oh boy, I guess it depends on the type of work you do but for what I'm qualified for they absolutely do not vibe with anything except Windows. I couldn't even find many that would at least let you use Mac.
I begrudgingly installed Windows 11 on my machine again the other day for this very reason. I'll still dual boot of course but man, I'm really not happy about it.
Also, Windows are complete dicks about letting you make a bootable windows USB gotta either use apps not in your distro directory or use another Windows computer to make one. Wtf is that shit about? And I had to spend like 2 hours making windows suck less.
It reminds me of how apps are starting to treat me for using Graphene OS
NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 33d
Are you working for yourself? Its hard to tell with how you put this.
I only work remotely, and I will never use windows to do it. The places I work for must provide the windows, and I remote into them from Linux. I vastly prefer this model. I do not want their software on my computer as I never want to be liable. The business likes it because it is far more secure to not give me a laptop and have to fuck around with a VPN.
As for the other issue: There are projects that will build the USB for you, where you provide the windows ISO you want, and then it removes all the crap and telemetry before install. There are ways to make the USB without windows, although I am not sure what you mean by "outside distro directory".
ReptilianCleric@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 33d
I just found woeusb the other day, if you need to make a windows USB from Linux in the future.
Malyca@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 33d
Nostalgia probably
ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 33d
Nanazip is the preferred Windows tool.
phlegmy@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 33d
Preferred by who?
Personally I'm not a fan of the 'modern' windows UI, lack of a menu bar, added sponsor button, lack of 32-bit support, lack of windows <10 support, or the fact that it's an msix-installed 'app' rather than a normal program.
ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 33d
Windows users.
LuckyDevil@piefed.social · 97 pts · 34d
ITT: The most politically charged discussion of compression software I've ever read...
SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 59 pts · 34d
That's how I know I'm home
mlg@lemmy.world · 34 pts · 33d
FOSS users when there's a software that's free but not open source
Rikidar@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 33d
I make software that’s almost “open source” with the only limitation being that you can’t resell it. I’ve had FOSS users tell me they’d prefer it being proprietary.
RogueBanana@piefed.zip · 9 pts · 33d
Surely thats just a couple of weirdos on the extreme side. Did that happen on multiple occasions?
Rikidar@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 27d
Yeah, it happened many times, even across platforms (Reddit of course, but also Mastodon and Bluesky)
A lot of FOSS people consider my license almost “deceitful” because they think I actually hate FOSS and am having my code available only to pose as a “good” developer
garbage_world@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 34d
jaybone@lemmy.zip · 34 pts · 33d
Israel uses 7zip to genocide LGBTQ children in Palestine running Arch btw
Malyca@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 33d
It's always been a sore subject for unknown reasons
chmod755@feddit.org · 61 pts · 33d
I own a valid WinRAR license!
BradleyUffner@lemmy.world · 21 pts · 33d
Same. I've happily used it for over 2 decades and decided that they actually deserve some money for that. I've since switched to Linux, but don't regret paying for WinRAR at all.
chmod755@feddit.org · 12 pts · 33d
You can still use it. WinRAR works on Linux with WINE
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 16 pts · 33d
Oh God why though
Toes@ani.social · 5 pts · 33d
They also have a Linux version. But it might be cli only haven't checked.
chmod755@feddit.org · 5 pts · 33d
Yes I think rar and unrar on Linux are their CLI tools - there is no official GUI Version for Linux
RogueBanana@piefed.zip · 6 pts · 33d
I never knew unrar is also by the same developer. Pretty cool.
ButteredBread@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 33d
kahoodd@reddthat.com · 1 pts · 33d
someone considered this? lol we should show our supports to foss ones, not this one. what's gotten into yall
0x0@infosec.pub · 15 pts · 33d
Ever since i found out that there is a yearly subscription for winrar on android, ive been paying for it.
I dont even use winrar anymore but it gives the same satisfaction as donating to wikipedia, and its just a few bucks so why not
kokesh@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 33d
I knew someone must exist!
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 33d
nonsense no one exists
koella@lemmy.zip · 7 pts · 33d
I bought a license when I got my first adult paycheck. And a PS2. Good times
Tattorack@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 33d
I use 7zip.
espentan@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 33d
Me too! Must be 20+ years since I bought it.
chmod755@feddit.org · 5 pts · 33d
I bought my license a few years ago - I prefer to support open source projects tho
Strider@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 32d
The one true MVP!
noxypaws@pawb.social · 58 pts · 33d
anyone who still distributes anything compressed with winrar, please just fucking stop
use it for your personal archival purposes if you must, but please just fucking stop using it to share or distribute anything publicly. there's zero reason to use .rar over 7z or zip or tgz or any other open standard
pycorax@sh.itjust.works · 13 pts · 33d
Does it matter when 7zip handles rar anyways?
hexagonwin@lemmy.today · 5 pts · 33d
isn't unrar open source?
digital_alchemist@discuss.tchncs.de · 12 pts · 33d
You would think so, but it's not.
From the Fedora wiki:
Rustmilian@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 33d
noxypaws@pawb.social · 5 pts · 33d
I don't care.
XeroxCool@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 32d
Hey outlook, can you save all 15 attachments to this folder? The 15 attachments I can view in outlook? The 15 attachments that drag and drop out of the email into a folder as expected? The 15 attachments that I can individually save as expected to a folder?
"best I can do is a zip file for the whole batch"
smileyhead@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 32d
Because it is a web browser underneath
irish_link@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 32d
I hate no Outlook. Half the time when your drag n drop it fails to save.
Edit - clearly I mean new outlook. I would love no outlook.
manuremy@sopuli.xyz · 50 pts · 34d
Shhh you're a free software
NateNate60@lemmy.world · 102 pts · 34d
Unlike 7-Zip, which is actually free and also open-source as well
7-Zip is by far the best archiving software on Windows
manuremy@sopuli.xyz · 6 pts · 34d
Well, but I'm used to WinRAR and never had any issues. Only need it once every few months. And it's pretty fun when the software tries to tell me that it isn't a free software. What a silly thing to say!
Zarobi@aussie.zone · 5 pts · 33d
Didn't Microsoft get in trouble for trying to steal 7zip code without credit or something?
adarza@piefed.ca · 1 pts · 33d
it's the most convenient, but i still use my winrar for some things, mainly some of the self-extractors i build and when i want recovery bits.
kibblebits@quokk.au · -28 pts · 34d
Snot. You run windows 🤪
NateNate60@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 34d
I didn't say I use Windows. I only said that 7-Zip is the best archiving software available for it.
tias@discuss.tchncs.de · 8 pts · 34d
Also, 7-zip is available for Linux too
Anonymous_Leaker@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 34d
garbage_world@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 34d
bufalo1973@piefed.social · 11 pts · 34d
Free as in free beer, not as in freedom.
garbage_world@lemmy.world · -6 pts · 33d
bufalo1973@piefed.social · 3 pts · 33d
Not in this case
ramenshaman@lemmy.world · 43 pts · 33d
Was expecting this to be an Onion article
Goldholz@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 33d
We live in strange times
some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org · 30 pts · 33d
Pay for independently-developed software if you care about it continuing to exist. Steal from corporations all you want. But support independent devs (and small teams) to make sure they can keep maintaining the tools you love and rely on. It's the only way to not get swallowed by the big dogs.
Hakuso@scribe.disroot.org · 29 pts · 34d
RAR files just make me "Huh?" as they are nowhere near as good as 7zip, as universal as zip, or as nice as tarballs.
The memory of multi-part rar files being a good way to get big things voer dial-up is kinda long past, they're a relic, in my book.
fizzle@quokk.au · 15 pts · 33d
I think theyre still popular on Usenet.
IDK all the history but rar has built in ability to create recovery data / parity volumes.
Parity data is like additional data that can help reconstruct any degradation.
That said, usually a standalone parity generator is used which can work with other types of archives, but rar is what everyone uses so why change.
Compression algos are ineffective on encoded / compressed media anyway.
It used to be important on Usenet, and maybe still is, because if a drive starts to fail somewhere and contains errors those errors can be reproduced across the network. Not sure if thats still a thing or why but certainly 10 years ago it was.
The summary to this rambling comment is: some communities still like rar because its what they've always used and there's no benefit to adopting 7z.
testaccount789@sh.itjust.works · 7 pts · 34d
Why not just use Tar with
splitandcat?cute_noker@feddit.dk · 18 pts · 33d
Instructions unclear.
My cat is now blacka and cut in half
Hakuso@scribe.disroot.org · 2 pts · 33d
This is why.
A lot of truth is sais in jest, no?
Kissaki@feddit.org · 22 pts · 33d
I've never used WinRAR. I'm a 7-zip
fanaticuser.TIEPilot@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 34d
Its big companies that screw them the most. I have worked for multiple multi billion dollar corporations that will screw Team Viewer over even though its how we get customers into their down servers. And it wasn't one data center, its every data center I have ever worked in (30 years in)
If the license is free, they will screw them.
*I know TV hasn't been around that long, but WinRAR has been and it was another company I saw screwed.
belochka@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 34d
Ah, yes, the bigger the company, the more willing to save something negligible on tools its business depends upon.
Honestly that's why I wish more of FOSS were hobbyist like AROS, Haiku and such. FOSS projects shouldn't be too readily usable by businesses, that allows bullshit shops with arrogant pigeon management to keep existing without building proper processes.
I mean, there's some equilibrium here probably, but with what projects get from businesses bigger than nation-states using their work, - we're far from it.
At the same time there are things like Java, PostgreSQL, Redis, Nginx and so on. I don't know.
It just seems sometimes that FOSS breaks market mechanisms in favor of big businesses not giving back to the rest of economy, which seems the opposite of its intuitively and emotionally perceived goal.
But maybe archivers are not it. Not a fan of the idea of having a set of 10 different archivers all often needed, like people did in the 90s. OK, I was a baby in the 90s. Many people didn't have PCs in the 90s.
But can we just go back to weak connectivity (say, asynchronous message exchange of everyone to everyone via BT ; global cryptographic identities and message ids, sort of a global p2p cryptographically contracted Usenet), a zoo of common operating systems and hardware platforms, evolution, competition, geekiness, interesting things.
fizzle@quokk.au · 5 pts · 33d
Thats kinda of how the free license works though. Yes loads of people use it without paying but theyre free advertising.
mycodesucks@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 33d
Makes sense. People finally have tons of disposable income to spread around. /S
Or maybe is just that everything else is so ridiculously expensive that WinRAR seems like a good deal now.
JohnEdwa@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 33d
It actually kinda is, the price has been $29 since 1995, adjusted for inflation they should be asking for $64 today.
87Six@lemmy.zip · 8 pts · 32d
Can anyone eli5 what winrar offers that 7zip doesn't? I don't hate winrar but I failed to ever need it or prefer it instead of 7zip.
filcuk@feddit.uk · 12 pts · 32d
Absolutely nothing, plus 7zip can be faster with better compression.
Well, apparently it can do some recovery of corrupted .rar, but who uses that format anyway
los0220@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 32d
I've used .rar to backup some data to an unpowered drives, some time ago. You can reserve additional space for the checksums while compressing, so you won't be able to recover just regular .rar files.
pastermil@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 32d
A lot, sadly. I don't know why.
Zacryon@feddit.org · 1 pts · 32d
Pirates.
0x0@infosec.pub · 6 pts · 32d
Winrar is older, so it has more sentimental users
lambda@programming.dev · 5 pts · 32d
Nanazip is a fork of 7-zip that is better on Windows 11. Doesn't answer your question. Just making you aware
pastermil@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 32d
Lmao
7-zip ❌️
七zip ✅️
toddestan@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 32d
Not sure myself. Like many I used WinRAR back in the day, but it's been at least 15 years since I last installed it.
Nukola@feddit.it · 8 pts · 33d
PeaZip best zip.
Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 16 pts · 33d
You wrote 7zip wrong
hietsu@sopuli.xyz · 4 pts · 32d
You accidentally typed ”7” instead on ”Nana”
Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 32d
Not japanese so I'll say with SiebenZip
Nukola@feddit.it · 2 pts · 32d
I didn't, PeaZip does the same but is compatible with any OS.
sunbeam60@feddit.uk · 7 pts · 34d
I must be the only one who ever paid for it.
NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip · 7 pts · 33d
Lol, windows users.
Is it possible they are getting MORE paying people because lets face it, nobody RAR's the day to day stuff.
This seems like an increase in files on peoples computers like: ididntwantopayforthisgame_crack.rar
Buddahriffic@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 33d
LinRAR when?
Evotech@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 33d
What’s wrong with the alternatives
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 33d
they got the wrong name
dan1101@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 33d
I actually paid for it back in 2017. I had been using it for free a looong time by then.
smeg@infosec.pub · 1 pts · 32d
Yeah, about a decade+ ago I paid for mIRC and WinRAR as a way to pay them back.
Zen_Shinobi@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 33d
I think WinRAR forgot /s
gilokee@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 34d
They make their real money from other businesses, still funny tho.
uhmbah@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 34d
izarc+cli
Anonymous_Leaker@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 34d
subOrange@lemmy.world · -2 pts · 34d
Before you go thinking “ah! That’s funny, I might chime in and give them some of my money too!” - remember that WinRAR is develop by a Russian person, can’t find their stance on the Ukrainian invasion but just something to think about.
gilokee@lemmy.world · 38 pts · 34d
Isn't that like saying all Americans are evil because our president is a piece of trash?
subOrange@lemmy.world · 43 pts · 34d
Well, yes, thanks for the reminder!
Ey guys, before you go buying or using some USA software, make sure they don’t support or have ties with the Trump administration!
Bohne93@feddit.org · 28 pts · 34d
SarahValentine@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 10 pts · 34d
Fun fact, so was every other nation in the world that ever fancied itself important enough to compete with others. America is just the latest bully to come out on top.
lyralycan@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 34d
Well yeah, since its conception. Idk how much my perception of when Europeans became "Americans" is synonymous with historians, but.. After the Europeans vastly destroyed the American population and took the name for themselves, Americans used violence to secede from English command. Iirc it was started by a plainclothes soldier shooting a soldier, starting a massacre.
danekrae@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 34d
I have been boycotting american products since they voted a pedo in office.
GMac@feddit.org · 8 pts · 34d
You ae not alone.
TallonMetroid@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 34d
Regardless of your actual politics, we're still funding MAGA shit because we're too poor to dodge our taxes. So I fully support people boycotting American businesses, same as with any business based in other countries doing evil shit.
Takapapatapaka@tarte.nuage-libre.fr · 1 pts · 33d
I know i'm fully nitpicking in bad faith here, but which are the countries not doing evil shit ? There probably are a few that are mostly good, but even those are quite rare, aren't they ?
TallonMetroid@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 33d
shrugs The various Pacific island nations probably don't have any fuckery going on, even if only because they lack the ability. Or if they do, they're too small to be obvious about it, which I'll admit is probably as good as it gets.
gressen@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 34d
No. you made a jump from not knowing a stance of a single person to attributing evil to an entire nation.
Viceversa@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 33d
Because need to know the stance of a single person implies attributing evil to his whole nation.
ms_lane@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 34d
The majority of you voted for him, so it's fair to assume a majority of you are like him, yes.
totally_human_emdash_user@piefed.blahaj.zone · 4 pts · 33d
Wrong; not everyone voted, and of those who did, only a bit under half voted for him (given that there were also candidates from other parties), so he did not get a majority.
Furthermore, pretty much the moment he entered office and actually started doing things, his approval ratings plummeted, so it is not correct to assume that the majority of us are "like him"; it would be more fair to say that he tricked a large number of people into thinking that he was someone different than he was. (Mind you, I think that these people were fools who should have known better, but that is a different kind of flaw.)
SarahValentine@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 33d
100% agree. Among other things, the reaction of foreign people to American citizens in the wake of MAGA crimes is one of the goals of "manufactured consent". We didn't consent to this, but the powers that be have made it look like we did, not only to other Americans but to the rest of the world, isolating us and making their crimes harder to stop.
gilokee@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 33d
*the majority of old idiots voted for him
cecilkorik@piefed.ca · 10 pts · 34d
It is important to think about and keep in mind, but it's also important not to judge blindly. Do some research before you make a decision on something like this and try to make an informed decision. People aren't responsible for where they're born, and not everyone is in a position for fight or flight. Most Russians are victims of Putin too, some worse than others. Many of them may be ignorant, yes, and even deeply unpleasant and unlikable people with nasty attitudes, but they are also brainwashed by one of the most manipulative and subtly oppressive regimes that has possibly ever existed in the modern world. Organizing a resistance against tyranny isn't easy. Even finding the motivation to resist it isn't easy. If it was easy, we wouldn't have such problems with tyrants all around the world, and orangeman wouldn't have lasted a week.
If you don't want to send money that will end up in Russia, I don't blame you. If you are afraid of the infiltration and malware risks that come with using software made in Russia, I don't blame you for that either. But the guy himself is probably just a normal person, unless there's specific evidence otherwise. "Othering" and demonizing other people is the path to the dark side. You can hate the country and government and the system, and you should, but not the people born and raised within it. They're in a big fucking mess, and you would be too if you lived there. Just because you think you'd make different choices personally, doesn't mean they're making bad ones for the situation they're in.
We are all just people. We are not better or worse than any other people. We are all trying to do the same things in life. Even the Russian people. But we've been made to be different by our environments and nations and governments that benefit from us being divided and hating each other. Don't play their game.
inkblade@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 34d
MinFapper@startrek.website · 2 pts · 33d
Don't threaten me with a good time?
ms_lane@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 34d
USA is awful but France still exists...
inkblade@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 33d
To me, the USA is degrees more vile than France. Both nations have decided to ruin the lives of my country men, and cause strife in my region.
And seeing as most of this downward trend of human life was triggered by the USA...
PabloSexcrowbar@piefed.social · 1 pts · 33d
inkblade@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 33d