We are way, way past propaganda

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Xerxos@lemmy.ml · 132 pts · 1d (5 replies)

The coward didn't even include Reagan. Too many Republicans worship Reagan, and his fragile ego doesn't let him share the number one spot.

Thebeardedsinglemalt@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 1d

Because if he included Reagan them people would know where he stole his slogan from

Leviathan@fedinsfw.app · 8 pts · 1d

Probably this list is an A,B,C,D tier list and Reagan is S tier.

BiteSizedZeitGeist@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 22h

Utter betrayal that he put Clinton in average but didn't put Reagan or either Bush at all. Fucking boomerslop.

Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 1d

He's probably just too senile to remember Reagan. Ironic, since I think that's how Reagan went, too...

starik@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 14h

Because it’s an edit of a page from a magazine from the 40’s. Wilson is the most recent president listed, except for Obama, Biden, Clinton, and Carter, whom Trump added with AI. He doesn’t know who the fuck these people are. He even forgot he was praising McKinley as the greatest president of all time just last year, and left him in the “average” tier here.

sin_free_for_00_days@sopuli.xyz · 102 pts · 1d (2 replies)

What a stupid time to be living. Fucking hell.

NekoKoneko@lemmy.world · 51 pts · 1d (1 reply)

It's not an exaggeration to say we are all forcibly being made dumber by Trump, because we are wasting finite energy and attention that we should be using for self-improvement and instead are spending those resources on keeping track of the sociopathic imbecile with the nuclear codes. It's exhausting.

eah@programming.dev · 1 pts · 21h

I stopped paying attention halfway through his first term. It was like a TV show you stop watching because you began to understand the formula of an episode.

chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world · 90 pts · 1d (7 replies)

No Reagan, Bush Sr., or Bush Jr.? And no Nixon?

ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.world · 26 pts · 1d (2 replies)

I'm a bit surprised he didn't include Reagan. A lot of conservative boomers think the sun shone out of Reagan's ass. I know most of them are now fully in the Cult of Trump. But Ronnie's exclusive still seems like an unnecessarily risky move.

rimu@piefed.social · 16 pts · 1d

Though if they included Reagan then people would be comparing Reagan's policies with trump's policies and seeing how different they are.

And yet if they did include Reagan they would have to put him high up. Awkward.

skisnow@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 19h
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Eq0@literature.cafe · 9 pts · 1d (2 replies)

You believe he actually thought about this? He asked a random AI to do it and never checked it at all. Maybe to see where Obama ended up

SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world · 13 pts · 1d (1 reply)

There are no modern republicans on it and that’s not by chance.

jballs@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 1d

Yeah he didn't want to anger anyone by saying Bush sucked or that he was better than Reagan. Definitely intentional.

EtnaAtsume@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 1d

No Eisenhower either.

protist@retrofed.com · 64 pts · 1d (7 replies)

He left out every Republican president from the past 70 years, no Eisenhower, Nixon, Ford, Reagan, HW Bush, or W Bush

leavemealone@sh.itjust.works · 42 pts · 1d (3 replies)

Pedos dont like to see bush.

teslekova@lemmy.ml · 10 pts · 1d

Jesus, that's good.

crazyslinkz@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 23h

Damn good burn, take my up vote

VisionScout@lemmy.wtf · 1 pts · 7h

LMAO!

Trex202@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 1d (1 reply)

He couldn't name them all

protist@retrofed.com · 13 pts · 1d

He was alive for all of them. My bet is any ranking of them on this list would cause controversy among his base, because many of them are revered by some and reviled by many

psycotica0@lemmy.ca · 5 pts · 1d

I noticed the same thing! I was like "where did they put their lord and saviour Reagan" and then noticed they just punted by not even putting them into the tier list! Cowardly fuckers!

njm1314@lemmy.world · 47 pts · 1d (4 replies)

Putting Grant at the bottom is always a dog whistle. It's lost cause propaganda. Straight up KKK shit.

yakko@feddit.uk · 30 pts · 1d (1 reply)

Dog whistles are so 2015, the last decade has been just plain whistles. And the occasional boat horn

Squirrelknight@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 1d

Putting Grant below Buchanan is a fog horn.

That is literally saying reconstruction was worse than the civil war itself.

defaultusername@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 1d

Also Jackson at the top (under himself).

wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz · 2 pts · 1d

Yeah my first thought was "Did he seriously list the Civil War general under 'failures'?" Holy shit...

RaoulDuke25@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 39 pts · 1d (2 replies)

Small dick energy

Schmuppes@lemmy.today · 17 pts · 1d

Exactly, he forgot LBJ.

Thebeardedsinglemalt@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 1d

That describes most everything he does.

MJKee9@lemmy.world · 33 pts · 1d (1 reply)

Thebeardedsinglemalt@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 1d

Just like all those peaked-in-highschool fucktards wearing ALPHA tshirts.

If you have to tell someone you're an Alpha...you're NOT alpha

Ougie@lemmy.world · 32 pts · 1d (1 reply)

Where do Nixon and Reagan fit in this

Fuckswearwords@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 1d

The greatest going by this scale

PumpkinSkink@lemmy.world · 30 pts · 1d (6 replies)

Bro made a president tier list and put Jackson in A tier. Wild self-report there.

Sharkticon@lemmy.zip · 12 pts · 1d (2 replies)

Jackson in the top tier, Grant in the bottom tier, and Buchanan not in the bottom tier. Just say you got this list straight from the grand wizard of the KKK. Cuz that's obviously where it came from.

Auli@lemmy.ca · 0 pts · 20h (1 reply)

I don't think Lincoln would be so high.

Sharkticon@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 17h

Ah but he was a Republican.

postmateDumbass@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 1d (1 reply)

Lincon and Jackson together.

HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 22h

they on money so must be good. ware my boy frankie?

nickiwest@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 21h

I assume that the current administration sees the Trail of Tears as a good thing.

itsgroundhogdayagain@lemmy.ml · 28 pts · 1d (2 replies)

Hoover is average? He was a major factor in causing THE GREAT DEPRESSION

scibra122@piefed.social · 9 pts · 1d

He used tariffs, so he can't go too low on this list. Don't worry about the correlation between tariffs and the great depression citizen, big brother does the thinking for you so you can focus on sports and your two minutes hate

DarkFuture@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1d

Crashing the economy is a quality to cuckservatives. That's why they keep voting for losers that do it.

CentauriBeau@lemmy.world · 27 pts · 1d (2 replies)

Leaving Nixon out because the optics of having him the “Great” category I’m sure, based on how his mind works. “This guy cheated and lied, one of my own and someone I can relate to!”

Spaceballstheusername@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 19h

But why is bush jr and ant and Reagan left out. It's like all current day presidents are left out unless I can shit on them.

postmateDumbass@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1d
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RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world · 26 pts · 1d (2 replies)

They left out Eisenhower. Probably because even though he was republican he advocated for social programs. Can’t put him in the winners section because commie, can’t put him in the losers section because republican.

kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world · 24 pts · 1d (1 reply)

There are only 34 presidents in this list. 11 are missing entirely, notably including Eisenhower, Truman, both Bushes, Reagan, Nixon, Ford, LBJ, and Kennedy. Like... big relevant names including very notable Republicans. 9 of the last 14 from the last 81 years missing. Are they stupid or strategically leaving them out of the comparison with Trump and others becuase it is politically tricky due to their recentcy but not so recent as to be part of the culture wars? The only 4 in there besides himself were Obama, Biden, Carter and Clinton. All democrats that were alive during his presidency. Not a coincidence, I'm sure.

Also, the idea that trump knows a damn thing about most of these presidents, let alone enough to reasonable compare them and judge their overall effectiveness and legacy is laughable.

postmateDumbass@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1d

Suprised Jefferson Davis didn't make his list.

raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world · 26 pts · 1d

Of the quite relevant ones, Dementia Diapers Dodo casually forgot Truman, Eisenhower, Kennedy, Nixon, Reagan, Bush and Bush Jr.

Edit: oh, and Ford.

Lodespawn@aussie.zone · 23 pts · 1d (1 reply)

What a fucking child

cosmos8188@leminal.space · 2 pts · 1d

child

narcissistic bastard

teslekova@lemmy.ml · 20 pts · 1d (2 replies)

Where the fuck is the only President who dropped two atom bombs on an enemy civilian population? Love him or hate him, to leave him out is absolutely insane!

hactar42@lemmy.ml · 6 pts · 1d

He was poor. Therefore completely ignored by Trump

chiliedogg@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1d

At least the guy behind the greatest genocide in American history made the "great" list.

shittydwarf@piefed.ca · 19 pts · 1d

I have never seen such a fragile ego

Akasazh@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 1d (2 replies)

FDR in the great tier is the second dumbest thing on there.

If his proposals where in the table the republicans would have a collective meltdown.

DupaCycki@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 1d

He'd be called a communist or a Chinese asset today

hansolo@lemmy.today · 6 pts · 1d

And Grant as a failure? Literally the next Republican elected after Lincoln.

This is probably some incel white supremacist president list to start with, where nothing makes any sense.

PlaidBaron@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 1d (3 replies)

Boomers should never have gotten access to social media.

tangosox@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 1d

No one should have gotten access to social media. It amplifies all of our own worst qualities.

Auli@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 20h

Sorry to tell you it isn't just boomers.

Wakmrow@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1d

Nah this is great lol

greedytacothief@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 18 pts · 1d (4 replies)

Even ignoring the top spot, this is a really weird list. I feel like he just asked an AI to make a meme that makes him look like the chad and Obama/Biden look like the soyjack.

hansolo@lemmy.today · 8 pts · 1d

My first thought, too.

Ulysses S. Grant a failure? Ooooh, I just looked, it's because he was seen as defeating the KKK by use of the Force acts of the Reconstruction amendments. Ok, well that checks out.

Some Groyper probably had Grok make this and of course dingus retweets it.

sad_detective_man@sopuli.xyz · 4 pts · 1d

100%, the dude does not read about presidents. It's just ragebait.

Pretty sure he's not even posting on his truth account this year

Redditmodstouchgrass@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 1d (1 reply)

Yeah, like, does he know most of his base doesn't like Lincoln?

mojofrododojo@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1d

goddamn, if they met, lincoln would bitchslap him too

TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 17 pts · 1d (1 reply)

Didn't include Reagan and Nixon for a reason

tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip · 6 pts · 1d

for a reason

dementia

FistingEnthusiast@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 1d

Hey, 'Murica

You've always been annoyingly loud, but shit's really out of hand now

potatopotato@sh.itjust.works · 16 pts · 1d (5 replies)

I did not expect to see Clinton in the average bracket ngl

FLP22012005@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 1d

Island friends.

MirrorGiraffe@piefed.social · 10 pts · 1d

The Lewinsky affair moved him up a few notches.

Janx@piefed.social · 3 pts · 1d (1 reply)

He's in the Epstein files with Trump.

Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 19h

its funny how "positive" he spoke of him compared to others, republicans and thier voters. and barely did a pushback when clinton was associated with epstein, likely knowing that dragging clinton through the dirt will bring to much attention upon himself. hillary all bets are off.

Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 19h

probably being a potential sexual predator was enough to upgrade him.

LovableSidekick@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 1d (4 replies)

FDR was screamed at in his own time for imposing "socialism" in the form of the New Deal - including the Social Security system, which MAGA is bent on eradicating.

Stolas@lemmy.ca · 5 pts · 1d (1 reply)

They don't see that. Rather they see FDR as this populist and aggressive manly man who didn't take no for an answer, particularly in respect towards how he proceeded to take a third term in office.

LovableSidekick@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 7h

Ahh yes, the third term. Good catch!

SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 22h

Yeah, I thought MAGA hated FDR.

Though I'm sure zero thought was given to this an it was generated by a prompt that only mentioned Trump should be at the top, and Biden, Obama, and Carter should be at the bottom.

Interesting they didn't tell the AI to also put Clinton at the bottom. Guess Trump still has a soft spot for Clinton out of nostalgia for when they hung out together at Epstein's house.

kofe@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 22h

I might be talking out of my ass, but my understanding for why he didn't get universal healthcare in was because then black people would get it

kreskin@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 21h (2 replies)

Besides trump himself, he thinks Andrew Jackson was a great president? Jackson was a racist. Indian removal act, trail of tears, slave owner and slavery supporter. He was a walking human failure.

Dnb@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 5 pts · 6h

Why do you think Trump liked him

phx@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 18h

It's Trump. At this point I'm surprised he didn't include Adolph in the second row then claim he was misunderstood

cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca · 14 pts · 1d

How much of a narcacist do you need to be to post something like this lol.

I propose a new word, trumpist, which is a step above narcissism

NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 1d (2 replies)

If other people say you’re really cool, you’re probably really cool. If you constantly have to tell everyone that you are cool, you’re a pathetic fucking loser.

Thebeardedsinglemalt@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1d (1 reply)

If you have to tell everyone you're the cool mom, you're not a cool mom

banause@feddit.org · 1 pts · 1d

If you have to tell everyone you're the cool brother, you're not a cool brother

collapse_already@lemmy.ml · 12 pts · 1d

Says the man that is actually the worst by more than five standard deviations.

deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz · 12 pts · 1d

... at shitting pants while in office.

... at being a pedophile.

... at corruption.

20cello@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 1d (1 reply)

Americans should siege the fucking white house right now

Squirrelknight@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1d

That's what Trumps preparing for. It's why he keep rambling about his stupid ballroom, 'cause he's building a bunker under it for protection when shit hits the fan.

bangupjobasusual@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 1d (4 replies)

🤔 they like fdr?

ZoteTheMighty@lemmy.zip · 10 pts · 1d

When he had an AI generate it, he probably specified where Carter, Obama, and Biden went, and let the AI do the rest. Everyone always ranks FDR highly because progressive policies are super effective, so that's what the AI did.

_skj@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 1d

They like the internment camps part

tmyakal@infosec.pub · 6 pts · 1d

They appreciated his redlining policies to keep people of color out of white neighborhoods.

sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 1d

People get their policy positions from their leaders, to a point.

It the leader says FDR is good, wwii, putting America to work, etc, then the base will believe those things.

It only doesn't work when you push too far, like when Trump briefly tried to promote the COVID vaccine.

SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 23h

I think it is funny how bitter he is about Biden and Obama because Biden won an election and Obama is praised. Carter got dealt a crappy hand.

rumba@lemmy.zip · 9 pts · 1d (2 replies)

kinda shocked he holds Lincoln in that mush esteem

expr@programming.dev · 12 pts · 23h

I'm more shocked about FDR.

SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 23h

Yah, he was anti slavery.

NoForwadSlashS@piefed.social · 8 pts · 1d

This is the kid in chat who goes "EZ WIN GG, HARD CARRYING" when they were bottom of the board with a 1-20 k/d.

RockBottom@feddit.org · 8 pts · 23h (1 reply)

Greatest what? Jeffrey Epstein associate?

skisnow@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 19h

Yeah I wondered how Clinton got to be so high on the list.

drolex@sopuli.xyz · 8 pts · 18h (1 reply)

Extremely funny that latest republicans are not included. Hey, what about Nixon?

myotheraccount@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 17h

Or reagan, or the shrubbery?

WhoIzDisIz@lemmy.today · 8 pts · 1d (1 reply)

I have to wonder what other previous presidents that were considered crappy might have done with social media. Would any of them be anywhere near this absurd?

Objection@lemmy.ml · 5 pts · 1d

One president used federal funds to deface a mountain by having a giant, 60 ft tall sculpture of his own face carved into it, right next to the faces of the presidents widely considered to be the greatest. That's pretty much the energy of this post.

spacegoat@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 1d (1 reply)

No one is coming to save you America

teslekova@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 1d

Yeah. We'd love to,, but we cannot. Your country is impossible to invade like we did Nazi Germany. It's up to you. Civil war, popular uprising, or miraculous democratic solution, it's all down to the people of America to save themselves this time.

FatVegan@leminal.space · 8 pts · 1d

I don't get it. Even if i were american, and treat the president like a celebrity, and celebrities like gods and so american to believe that gods are real. I think i'd still look at this and think: hah, that is fucking weird.

Denjin@feddit.uk · 7 pts · 1d

Not surprising that he's a fan of Jackson. An autocrat and populist with no interest in the law or respecting opposition who committed genocide.

Feathercrown@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 1d (2 replies)

Where's my main man Garfield

VoteNixon2016@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 5 pts · 1d

TheTetrapod@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 1d

The Garfield erasure never ends.

logos@sh.itjust.works · 7 pts · 1d (1 reply)

Hoover was average?

ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1d

Wasn't he really into trade tariffs too? Maybe Trump feels an affinity with him over that (and also about both of them being chronic failures in general).

HubertManne@piefed.social · 6 pts · 1d

Its true enough. This is about fellate skills, yes?

MorningWood@anarchist.nexus · 6 pts · 1d

Interesting he put McKinley as average since he looks up to him so much (renamed a mountain after him) Maybe he doesnt want people looking into what happened to the last president who instilled a widespread tariff policy...

Treczoks@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 1d

Greatest delusional, if anything.

HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 22h (4 replies)

i will argue up and down that taft was the greatest individual to occupy the office of president of the united states. NOT just because they had to redesign the bathtub after he got stuck in it, but because he was an accomplished jurist and then chief justice of the supreme court. until trump both does that AND gets himself named head of the senate and then dies from overwork, he'll be second best. because he dead.

Echolynx@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 21h (1 reply)

And he didn't even want the role!

HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 20h

What honest person would? It's work

titanicx@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 22h (1 reply)

You get a down vote because you even fake insinuated that that orange child rapist is great

HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 21h

wait fuck i tired

Evotech@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 1d (1 reply)

Totally reasonable post /s

AlteredEgo@lemmy.ml · 4 pts · 1d

Stable genius

ZapBeebz_@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 1d

I think it would be absolutely hilarious to watch the pedophile in chief try to survive a Rickover interview the way Carter had to

Bwaz@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 1d

Chart needs a title. I suggest "sucesses in being an incompetent asshole"

DarkFuture@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 1d

Is this a list of pedophiles from most to least prolific?

blockheadjt@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 1d

Taylor was one of the most popular presidents who happened to die of illness during his presidency.

If it weren't for modern medicine, Trump would have likely succumbed to COVID when he had it.

No logic here.

lobut@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 1d (1 reply)

So many Americans are like, "this is fine, he's just joking around!"

Ougie@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 1d

Yeah he's just trolling the "far left" smh

e8CArkcAuLE@piefed.social · 3 pts · 1d

you people are reading it wrong, it’s a gradient of failures, him being on top.

jagermo@feddit.org · 3 pts · 1d

hactar42@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 1d

President responsible for ushering in 100 years of segregation and Jim Crowe laws... Average

SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 23h

What a freak.

el_twitto@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 23h

The greatest pile of orange shit.

SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 1d

Mmmmm.... Shakes head Mmmm mmmm mmm... Yup.

eleijeep@piefed.social · 2 pts · 1d

A better format would have been one of those tier-list templates that all the streamers and youtubers use.

silasmariner@programming.dev · 2 pts · 1d (2 replies)

Wait I can't find van Buren

HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 22h
NerdInSuspenders@leminal.space · 1 pts · 23h

Far right on first row of “average”.

psycotica0@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 1d (4 replies)

I'm not American, and this is maybe the first time I've seen FDR listed as FD Roosevelt. Is that the same Roosevelt as Teddy? Or just a coincidence?

Objection@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 1d

It is the same Roosevelt family, yes, they were distant (fifth) cousins. FDR's wife, Eleanor Roosevelt, was also Teddy Roosevelt's niece.

It's worth remembering that while FDR is frequently seen as a radical progressive, the reality is that he came out of an established political family, and his New Deal policies were driven less by some radical ideology and more by recognizing what the moment demanded, and being willing to act on that. If anything, FDR was somewhat reserved in implementing the New Deal and in some cases, he even attempted to roll back his own policies prematurely.

In normal circumstances, he might have been an unremarkable president, but he rose to the challenge and recognized that the economic crisis in front of him required a functional, active government, which created a political will even within the political establishment to break the fundamental US norms that the government isn't supposed to ever do anything good or useful.

blueduck@piefed.social · 1 pts · 1d (1 reply)

Fifth cousins. The Roosevelt family is / was a political dynasty alongside the Adams, Harrison and Bush families

ilinamorato@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1d

I recently discovered that Abraham Lincoln was a distant cousin of the Harrisons, as was Elvis Presley. So with three presidents and a king, I would say that you could probably call that one the biggest political dynasty so far.

electric_nan@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 1d

They were distant cousins.

NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 23h

There’s a very specific commonality for 3 of the dudes in the 2nd place bracket.

Schmuppes@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 1d
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solidheron@sh.itjust.works · -2 pts · 1d

I wouldn't bother giving attention to Trump's social media posts. It's time to move into other people's posts