https://xcancel.com/AyakaMods/status/2057438125203296642#m
this needs to stop man
google's AI moderation deleted artist's entire google account for uploading his own old manga to gdrive
https://xcancel.com/AyakaMods/status/2057438125203296642#m
this needs to stop man
243 Comments
CapuccinoCoretto@lemmy.world · 206 pts · 97d
Don't use google. They aren't your friend.
dawg@lm.kluge.cafe · 44 pts · 97d
truth nuke
JoMiran@lemmy.ml · 26 pts · 97d
How far they have fallen in the past 20+ years.
Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 96d
Yeah... And soon they will block third party apps.
I want a Linux phone alternative yesterday.
asdfasdfasdf@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 95d
Graphene OS is superior IMO. Android is open source already and Graphene fully removes Google.
I don't see any advantage of trying to build everything from scratch again, which would mean giving up the enormous app ecosystem and existing work.
It's way easier and more practical to just hard fork Android.
tatterdemalion@programming.dev · 15 pts · 97d
Don't use any company's storage as your only copy, or even as your main means of access. Self host as much as possible.
Katana314@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 96d
Self-hosting can be a "Let them eat cake" kind of first-world answer for Japanese users. Most of them get tiny apartments to begin with. A desktop computer and enough space for it is a pretty heavy luxury to begin with. A dedicated always-on machine is another step above that.
Much of their lives revolves around mobile or smaller devices (part of why the Steam Deck was popular there and introduced many of them to Steam)
tatterdemalion@programming.dev · 3 pts · 96d
Fair point. Self hosting is a luxury. I don't think having a hard drive for backups is that expensive though if you already have the digital tools for creating manga.
dpflug@hachyderm.io · 2 pts · 96d
greedytacothief@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 96d
One is none, and two is not enough. The more places your data is, the harder it is to lose.
youcantreadthis@quokk.au · 5 pts · 97d
Lick boot lose teeth
Prunebutt@slrpnk.net · 87 pts · 97d
If you must use gdrive: at least encrypt your files.
panda_abyss@lemmy.ca · 80 pts · 97d
Stop right there criminal scum!
Encryption means you’re hiding something, and that you’re probably a criminal!
Wooki@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 96d
I cant believe someone down voted this.
Learn to recognise sarcasm before pressing buttons. It doesnt get any more obvious.
Either that or Google shills working over time...
panda_abyss@lemmy.ca · 5 pts · 96d
I’m generally fairly down-votable
CommanderCloon@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 96d
Could be a missclick tbh
Trainguyrom@reddthat.com · 3 pts · 96d
You have committed crimes against Skyrim. What say you?
M33@piefed.world · 10 pts · 97d
Cryptomator !
dumnezero@piefed.social · 6 pts · 96d
Easiest step is probably to archive the files (7z, zip etc.) with a password.
Prunebutt@slrpnk.net · 3 pts · 96d
But not the most convenient.
There are Apps which automatically mirror the content. someone commented a name below my comment, I think.
Rsync can encrypt and sync. I think there are implementations for phones.
For desktop users: Kde plasma has a feature for encrypted containers, that's quite well integrated, IIRC.
DaddleDew@lemmy.world · 77 pts · 97d
I recently completely finished completely decoupling my life from Google. My GMail account isn't used for anything of importance anymore. People really should take a moment and think about what would be the consequences if Google suddenly mistakenly deleted their account like that. A lot of people's entire lives are connected to their GMail account.
cecilkorik@lemmy.ca · 26 pts · 97d
I have self-hosted my own personal email server since the late 90s. It has been a tedious, often unpleasant chore. I hate email. But it's the one thing I've never compromised on, because to this day they try to tie your identity to your email and giving up control of that seems insane to me. Apps that use your phone number are doing the same thing, but you can't self-host that, so I won't use them. I'm sure Signal is very nice and people keep recommending it, but my phone is an untrusted device, and my phone number is an untrusted identity I don't control. I am not going to use it for anything important.
UndergroundParking@lemmy.cafe · 2 pts · 96d
I remember reading Signal got rid of the hard requirement of a phone number. Haven't tried it as I've already got it attached to my number. At least starting a chat with someone new I didn't have to give them my number, used signal's internal id.
dawg@lm.kluge.cafe · 12 pts · 97d
same here, the only google thing i use is youtube
DaddleDew@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 96d
YouTube is fine by me. I don't care that they track my activity there because they use it to recommend videos and I usually only go there when I have time to waste, which actually makes sense. My YouTube account is its own thing that I don't use for anything else too. On top of that I use ad blockers so they can't even make money off of me. If anything, I cost them money by using YouTube.
dawg@lm.kluge.cafe · 6 pts · 96d
MousePotatoDoesStuff@piefed.social · 2 pts · 95d
That's probably going to be the toughest for me, but I'll still try.
sigmaklimgrindset@sopuli.xyz · 4 pts · 97d
If anyone has any suggestions for an alternative to Google Docs for my university essays that can track my writing literally word for word, I would be forever grateful. Getting really tired of having professors flag me for AI use just because I can string sentences together with an em-dash, and also getting tired of feeding all my essays to Gemini.
Slashme@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 96d
It's not word for word, but a git repository with frequent commits with meaningful descriptions is easy to do, and then you can push to codeberg or wherever to have backups. That's cryptographically signed and therefore strong evidence of what you wrote when, and what you were thinking.
ulterno@programming.dev · 4 pts · 96d
This logic doesn't work out in the given place.
Cryptographical signatures are used to determine that the thingy was made by the person you trust.
Problem is, in this case, the creator of those commits is the one that is not being trusted.
The professor will just go, "Oh you made it with AI and then used
git commit!".I have had a similar experience in the past, where I made some MATLAB code for a Mathematics course, which the professor said I had copied from someone else (pre-AI times), because he had given the same assignment to other people in the university. This, he claimed without even looking at what I made and without remembering the specific question he had passed to me.
Slashme@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 96d
There's still the trace left showing the reasoning, which is harder to fake than a complete document. The commits and commit comments would show a human style of building a narrative.
ulterno@programming.dev · 2 pts · 96d
Yeah, that might make it easier when he feels the need to report the professor to the HOD.
Except it doesn't matter when the HOD just wants to shit on you, because they can just say that you are good at AI-ing and that's how you did it.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 96d
shouldve went to the dean or the department head.
ulterno@programming.dev · 2 pts · 95d
The Maths HOD was my professor.
Slashme@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 93d
Should've *gone
forestbeasts@pawb.social · 3 pts · 95d
To be fair, you CAN monkey with timestamps and stuff in git. It is cryptographically proven that a given history results in a given commit hash, but you're free to rewrite that and just have a new commit hash. If you give anyone else your repo, though, then if you rewrite history later they can be like "huh? this doesn't match!".
Not that that matters much here. Proving beyond a reasonable doubt is the goal, not Absolute 100% Certainty level proof.
sigmaklimgrindset@sopuli.xyz · 2 pts · 94d
This is really helpful for my CS/mathamatics courses actually, but if you think my English prof is gonna be able to parse a git repository... :/
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 96d
or to mass transfer stuff from drive to another without too much of a hassle.
mangobanana@discuss.online · 1 pts · 96d
What other options are there though? Most non tech people have no idea how to degoogle their info
zarkanian@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 95d
Proton's a good one.
PlexSheep@infosec.pub · 1 pts · 96d
Maybe typst.app would work for you, or the likes of a self hosted next loud with only office (which is also an office suite in the browser)
Hupf@feddit.org · 75 pts · 96d
Guys are we really at the whim of just two unregulated private corporations?
Evil_Shrubbery@thelemmy.club · 13 pts · 96d
They have all your data, grip you privates tight, enter AI, don't say a word, it's just a beast that will consume us all.
zeroConnection@programming.dev · 7 pts · 96d
I see only one solution:
chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 96d
Why is online banking the only option?
matlag@sh.itjust.works · 17 pts · 96d
Because banks decided it's cheaper to do an app than to pay for people available in branches.
So the same operation is 2mins on the app, or 10mins driving to the nearest branch (YMMV), 20mins waiting in line (YMMV), 5mins to get it done, 10mins to go back.
Oh, you also have the option to wait for 1h on the phone...
mangobanana@discuss.online · 2 pts · 96d
My credit union recently went to the no tellers in the branch option. They have remote tellers i fucking hate it. And they closed down the drive through. It fucking sucks
Regrettable_incident@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 96d
It's not, but it's much easier than visiting a branch or spending hours waiting on the phone to speak to someone who doesn't have great English.
chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 96d
Or you could just bank from a web browser on a cheap laptop. Or use a cheap burner phone for banking only, separate from your everyday phone.
I have a few bank accounts and none of them force the app for 2FA. They can also use text or even an email address.
Regrettable_incident@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 96d
Hmm yeah fair point.
morphballganon@mtgzone.com · 4 pts · 96d
Don't credit unions have desktop sites? Can't you use an e-mail for authentication?
tempest@lemmy.ca · 63 pts · 97d
This type of thing is why you never 'login with Google, Meta, Apple ' whatever.
If they decide they don't like you for whatever reason you end up locked out of every account, event the ones that are not explicitly Google.
NotEasyBeingGreen@slrpnk.net · 5 pts · 96d
The only time I ever did that is when Jitsi started requiring accounts to create video meetings. I used GitHub, thinking "that seems harmless". Now it seems risky as fuck, considering how enshittified GitHub has become. 😬
brucethemoose@lemmy.world · 59 pts · 97d
Forgive my bluntness.
...But I feel like "artist tech debt" is now a problem.
I first started complaining about it in the photography space. Basically, no one understands colorspace, HDR formats, HEIFs/JXL, how modern sensors/encoders actually work... everyone is "stuck" in a circa-2000s "crush RAW stills to JPEG, export video to mp4" workflow, like they're in a time loop. They're not even using the crazy dynamic range of modern sensors and displays, and have no clue.
But the more I look around, the more I see it elsewhere. A manga artist choosing Google Drive as their host is a great example.
I dunno what to do about it, though.
4am@lemmy.zip · 22 pts · 97d
A lot of older artists are stuck in their ways. A lot of younger artists cannot afford the subscriptions they perceive they need for those workflows you mentioned.
brucethemoose@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 97d
It often doesn't work anyway!
Take HDR photography, as an example:
https://gregbenzphotography.com/hdr-display-photo-software/
The list of supported software is short, and doesn't mention caveats (like Lightroom's/Affinity's HDR editing looking wonky if you don't understand "paper white" and such). Popular "switch away from Photoshop" apps like DXO don't even support HDR, or AVIF or anything.
Some cutting edge cameras support HEIFs instead of JPEGs, but only sometimes, and not well; they'll pretty much only render right on an iPhone or Mac.
The video side is pretty greusome, too. VLog LUTs, for example are mostly to Rec709, and no workspace uses HLG by default.
I'm going a bit far here. My point is: ask many photographers about the RAW -> image conversion process, and they'll have an intuitive grasp. Ask them about SDR vs HDR, and 98% think you're talking about "HDR" multi-exposure stacking like it's 2009. 1.9% will tell you HDR is "TV nonsense."
One can navigate this software stuff if they understand the basics of HDR vs SDR, but the most basic understanding isn't even there.
vithigar@lemmy.ca · 10 pts · 97d
This is true in a lot of spaces that have a specialized skill set. Lots of people doing things by rote without actually understanding the underlying fundamentals of what they're doing, or just cargo culting nonsense that happens to kind of work but with a lot of wasted effort or a poor quality result.
It comes up in both IT and software development more or less constantly.
Adderbox76@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 96d
That's the fault of the YouTube Effect. In color grading or video editing, for example, we have people learning from youtube tutorials on what buttons to push, but nothing about the actual science and theory behind why to push those particular buttons. You'll watch a ten minute video on "How to get the bleach-bypass look for your video" with absolutely no explanation of what the Bleach-bypass look is or when it would appropriate to use it (for example).
Most new creatives in any field have learned primarily from YouTube content creators that have themselves learned from other YouTube content creators. They're just re-recording the same tutorial that they learned it from, down and down the line. Maybe at some point down the line, there was originally somebody who went to an accredited film-school/photography school or what have you that actually understood the why of it, but for the most part it's amateurs teaching amateurs what buttons to push.
brucethemoose@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 96d
It's even more frustrating that "old" stuff (like debayering, white point and such) is often understood on a technical level, but it stops at anything new.
I guess this happens in software, too.
WolfLink@sh.itjust.works · 16 pts · 97d
Tbf a lot of modern screens can’t display HDR properly, even those that advertise that they can, so when people do see an “HDR image” they don’t get it.
brucethemoose@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 96d
The HLG standard, gain maps, and honest display specifications should take care of that. But alas…
cabillaud@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 96d
Mmh, they didn't say Google Drive was their host, but rather that they wanted to make an additional backup of their work.
Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works · 0 pts · 96d
Man I hate HDR, just makes my screen brighter without asking me
softwarist@programming.dev · 50 pts · 96d
Remember, folks: encryption and redundancy (and redundancy).
captain_oni@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 18 pts · 95d
And redundancy.
biggerbogboy@sh.itjust.works · 12 pts · 95d
And redundancy.
MeowerMisfit817@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 95d
And redundancy.
Rooster326@programming.dev · 8 pts · 95d
And testing the redundancy ^Redundancy ^^Reduncancy ^^^Redundancy
RickAstleyfounddead@lemy.lol · 2 pts · 95d
Don't test redundancy here bruh! These servers are public running
Draegur@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 95d
And the brain damage...
And the brain damage...
And the brain damage...
Oh hey guys when did you get here?
MeowerMisfit817@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 95d
And the ADHD, and... uh... I'm sorry, what were we listing again?
rafoix@lemmy.zip · 46 pts · 97d
Having AI make decisions should put corporate leaders in personal legal problems.
A human is always to blame.
FreddiesLantern@leminal.space · 41 pts · 96d
On the one hand this really, REALLY sucks for the artist. I wouldn’t wish it on my personal enemies if I had them.
However stories like these are instrumental in teaching the broader public that AI is to be boycotted.
Telling Joe Schmoe that datacenters are a rising problem just doesn’t register. This they could relate too.
SpaceCadet@feddit.nl · 24 pts · 96d
I don't think the AI part is the relevant bit here.
I think the message should be that trusting your data to off-site storage where it is subject to third-party moderation should be boycotted. So boycott Google Drive, One Drive, icloud and keep your data on your own computers.
petrol_sniff_king@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 96d
Yes, the important part is that data was lost. How was it lost? Um... magic, probably. W-we don't need to look at the details.
SpaceCadet@feddit.nl · 6 pts · 96d
Because you put it in the hands of a third party who is not accountable to you, and gave them full control over it. Whether they exercise that control via AI or a human is rather irrelevant here. There are plenty of documented cases of people losing their account in pre-AI times due to human moderation.
petrol_sniff_king@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 96d
It is relevant, because the AI did a stupid.
zarkanian@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 95d
The Joe Schmoes have been uniting against the data centers and winning in many cases.
HugeNerd@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 96d
*to
FreddiesLantern@leminal.space · 2 pts · 96d
Goddamn such a huge nerd!
<3
olafurp@lemmy.world · 38 pts · 96d
Draegur@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 95d
Deleted? Now: No one's data.
tristynalxander@mander.xyz · 35 pts · 96d
A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world · 32 pts · 96d
No one should have anything on google specifically, or on a non-privately owned and properly secured server in general.
There was a guy, during covid lockdowns, whose child developed a severe rash in the diaper area.
because lockdowns, the doctor asked them to send photos of the rash so he can diagnose.
googles auto-moderator labeled it child pornography, immediately deleted their account (which was very much all eggs in one basket. his phone number, email, data, everything was tied to his google account, all of which went away with no ability to recover anything on any of it) and called the authorities.
Police came to his home, talked to him, talked to his doctor, said there was nothing untoward there and went about their business.
Google said it didnt matter what the police said, it was child pornpgraphy.
the doctor sent a letter to google saying it was a legitimate medical necessity.
google said it didnt care, its child pornography.
That their expert photo-lookers said there was no rash in the area that they could tell, so there for the doctor was wrong, the police were wrong, and that man was a pedophile and he would never get anything back in any circumstance.
and for proof of that, they pointed to a video in his google data from 6 months prior that had the mother laying in bed, naked, with the baby on her chest.
Because, according to google, the only reason to be naked in the same room as a child, or to take a medically dictated photograph of a childs rash, is if you are a dirty dirty child molesting pedophile sexually exploiting your child.
Which I imagine makes almost all of our parents and grand parents pedophiles, by googles standards, because I guarantee the overwhelming majority of us have a parent that has a picture of us naked, probably in the bath, that is compltely fucking harmless to any sane, normal human being, unlike the actual pedophiles that google has looking at this shit who gets their rocks off to it and assumes everyone else is just as fucked up as twisted as they are.
leftzero@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 95d
Reminds me of a joke: someone is driving on a certain road and listening to the radio; suddenly the announcer warns: beware anyone driving in [that particular road], there's a madman driving in the wrong direction. To which the driver exclaims: One!? It's all of them!
Google are that driver in this case. I.e., the real paedophiles. For only a paedophile could consider a picture of a mother with her child child pornography.
A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 95d
or a medically legitimate photo, as requested by the doctor, as verified by the very police they called on him.. They have to measure whats pedophilia and whats not by how aroused google employees get when looking at them.
I wonder if that same google employee didnt make copies to take him for his collection.
SpaceCadet@feddit.nl · 11 pts · 96d
Encrypting something with your own key before you upload it is a solution for backups, but you do lose the convenience factor of cloud storage. If you are only using Google Drive for backup, that could work.
The alternative is to use a service with built-in end-to-end encryption.
tristynalxander@mander.xyz · 2 pts · 96d
SpaceCadet@feddit.nl · 1 pts · 95d
I don't think they're a scam. They're just more honest: you use x amount of storage, you pay for x amount of storage and you can do with it as you like.
It's not presented as "free" where you actually pay with your data, a dependency on the service and hidden content restrictions.
tristynalxander@mander.xyz · 1 pts · 95d
SpaceCadet@feddit.nl · 1 pts · 95d
But offsite storage is something that per definition can't be done locally ...
skepller@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 96d
Just use a zero-knowledge end-to-end encrypted service. Which means the company literally can't ever read your files!
I use Filen for a long time now, and I'm super satisfied.
Spacehooks@reddthat.com · 28 pts · 96d
This makes as much sense as having my shelves and cabinets judge what socks I put in them and trash it.
GTFO
SpaceCadet@feddit.nl · 4 pts · 96d
I mean, you're not wrong but the problem is that the online storage that you (and most people) think of as "your storage", is not "your storage" in the same sense as those cabinets and shelves are yours. You're really just borrowing the storage, and have given the actual owner the right to freely snoop through it and kick you out for anything they find they don't like.
The only storage that's actually yours is the one on your computer. That you own. In your house.
pinball_wizard@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 96d
Yes. And ban me from using any other doors or drawers in the house.
Something to look forward to with smart houses, I guess.
WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today · 25 pts · 96d
So AI can just delete my pirated videos and music?
Frenchgeek@lemmy.ml · 4 pts · 95d
It is not limited that way.
starman2112@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 95d
Not just your pirated videos and music
GhostFace@lemmy.today · 21 pts · 96d
It's only a matter of time until something really big fails online isn't it?
the_flying_pig@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 95d
Always has been.
Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 21 pts · 96d
This is why my e-mail isn't gmail and I never store my shit in somebody else's cloud.
Way back when they were starting offering free e-mail and later cloud services it was an obvious risk, because putting one of your main points of contact and only copies of data which you can't get back in the hands of a massive company with whom you don't even have a proper contract and which, besides, has more lawyers than the year has days, is a needless risk.
Same reason why none of my code that's important is in GitHub.
BarneyPiccolo@lemmings.world · 13 pts · 96d
As soon as the cloud thing started, I thought "Who thought this was a good idea?" Especially when they were trying to get The Cloud to basically replace a computer's hard drive.
No thanks, I'll hang on to my own stuff. I can put my important stuff on a couple of thumb drives, and carry them around.
Theoriginalthon@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 96d
The only thought I had was that with scalability and redundancy your data could be reasonably safe and reasonably accessible, however over the years shit like this keeps happening.
The only way I would use cloud storage is if I sent it already encrypted data
BarneyPiccolo@lemmings.world · 2 pts · 96d
I understand that my use is much lighter than some. My stuff is mostly documents, and some graphics and photos, so it's no big deal. Some people have tons of data and stuff, and/or they travel around and need access to all of it from all over the world. The cloud is handy for them.
That's not me, but my little bit of data is just as important to me, and I'm not leaving it in the hands of some third party who doesn't care at all.
Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 96d
Using somebody else's cloud for scalability and redundancy is reducing one risk vector by increasing a different risk vector.
It makes some sense to use a cloud service of a company which is around the same size as your own, with whom you have a proper contract in a jurisdiction where it's legally enforceable in a timely manner and even then you're now taking in the risks associated with them going bankrupt.
I avoided that kind of situation exactly because having worked in IT already for almost a decade when this kind of thing came out, I had already some experience with what can happen if one puts oneself at the mercy of a 3rd party entity for whom even your business isn't worth much (either because you don't even pay or because you're a tiny, tiny customer).
That is way more so when we're talking about having an important point of contact with the outside world like one's e-mail address under control of such a 3rd party entity (e-mail, like phone numbers in many countries, should be something you can take with you from provider to provider, but we're not there yet and may never be given that unlike with phone numbers, it would require a transnational regulatory agreement, which almost certainly will NEVER happen). Personally for my e-mail I DO use the mechanism were due to regulations I can move the core element around with me from provider to provider - I have my own Domain Name and subcontract the e-mail support to a 3rd party.
mangobanana@discuss.online · 4 pts · 96d
What are people who are not tech wizards supposed to use? Most people use gmail or if your old, Yahoo because that's all they know how to use
tristynalxander@mander.xyz · 4 pts · 96d
DrSteveBrule@mander.xyz · 1 pts · 96d
Just because they arent tech wizards doesn't mean they're tech cave people
Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 96d
Getting e-mail hosting complete with your own domain name on one of many, many companies available worldwide which sell that (just search for "e-mail hosting") does not require tech knowledge to the level of "wizardry".
They even have interfaces similar to Google.
However those things are paid, and they're definitely not as accessible to non-techies since for example your smartphone won't just pop-up an "add account with X e-mail hosting" during initial config.
Absolutely, those things aren't "so stupidly simple that even my dog can use it", but then again I'm making my point in Lemmy to a crowd which is well above average tech aware, not to my nana on Facebook.
Airfried@piefed.social · 18 pts · 97d
The only ways Google listens to your appeal (that I can think of) are: 1) a lawyer, or 2) having at least 100k subscribers on Youtube. Even then it's not guaranteed. It's a complete BS system and no one should do anything important with Google products. Especially not storing important files. Hopefully the artist or their assistant have the stuffed still saved elsewhere, but they need to learn from this.
Noja@sopuli.xyz · 30 pts · 97d
Google is absolute garbage. (Also, Google Stadia has shut down, lol)
Zerush@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 96d
Not even then, leftwing News YT channels, even with way more than 100k subscribers, are reporting Shadowbans.
Airfried@piefed.social · 1 pts · 96d
I wasn't talking about shadow bans but about access to your account(s). 100k subs is the threshold where you can hope for a human to read your appeals. This is baked into their system. 1 sub short of 100k? Sorry, you're out of luck and there is no way for you to even reach out to google. Even with 1 million subs they can still opt to not do anything about it but someone will at least read your message. It's insane they make it based on subscribers on their video platform anyway.
Zerush@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 96d
No, YT push in clear manner right wing influencer with way less subs, than other left wing channels, which all observe a strong declive of presence in YT suggestions (>30%) and new subs since several month.
Airfried@piefed.social · 1 pts · 95d
You're talking about something else entirely, though.
SethTaylor@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 96d
This is why I store everything offline
Homesnatch@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 96d
Offline? Never heard of that app.
Qwaffle_waffle@sh.itjust.works · 17 pts · 96d
Yup, here's the link for it :
FiniteBanjo@feddit.online · 17 pts · 97d
Imagine paying for more storage and keeping anything on the drive that is actually important. I just use mine to share pirated ISOs for games from popular systems to emulate.
4grams@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 96d
It is more important than ever to get these fucking services out of your life. Do not rely on a third party for your critical data and infrastructure. Use it if it’s convenient, but ALWAYS have a copy under your own control.
I can’t bring myself to blame the victims of shit like this, we’re up against massive corporate and government pressure to give over our lives to them. It takes genuine effort to protect your shit these days, but it’s more critical than ever and well worth the difficulty; even if you never need it.
LostWanderer@fedia.io · 16 pts · 97d
I mean...It's always a horrible idea to rely on any major corporation for cloud storage. Especially the likes of Google which is currently in it's evil incarnate era. I don't pay for anything Google related, just some neat open source options because fuck a goddamn evil corporation. Also, I tend to use local external storage as well, because even the open source option might go bellend first into the darkness.
ragebutt@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 16 pts · 96d
Google did shit like this long before AI. Never use google for anything critical (or at all). while the odds are low because they want your data there’s always the chance they just delete everything you had. And their support is nonexistent so once they do you’re fucked, even if you make a big stink on social media like this
StillAlive@piefed.world · 15 pts · 97d
Google never had proper customer support anyway. Plenty of posts on /r/sysadmin by business customers stating the same.
OwOarchist@pawb.social · 14 pts · 97d
MEGA's cloud storage is pretty good in my experience.
Pretty generous limits and cheap prices if you want higher limits. Native Linux client that works well and integrates into KDE well. And, most importantly, end-to-end encryption, which means MEGA has no access to your files. They have no idea what you're uploading.
quick_snail@feddit.nl · 4 pts · 97d
I wish they sold by the gig. Their plans start too high too big.
FG_3479@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 96d
Kim Dotcom says not to use it, so I would stay suspicious.
Trainguyrom@reddthat.com · 1 pts · 96d
Man I forgot about Kim Dotcom. That's a name change that didn't age well at all!
Zerush@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 96d
Filen, kDrive,....
OwOarchist@pawb.social · 1 pts · 96d
Also seem good.
Not sure how their Linux clients are, though.
ApertureUA@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 96d
https://catbox.moe/ (if you don't like the anime it's a matter of CSS)
wouldn't trust it for private stuff tho because someone can scrape IDs (although it would take forever and they get IP banned) (also Tor isn't allowed :( )
Sam_Bass@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 95d
ai is crippling every industry it touches. sounds intentional imho
dev_null@lemmy.ml · 13 pts · 96d
Not that it changes anything, but why nobody is saying, or asking, what was it flagged for? I find it suspicious the reason for the ban was not given in the story.
Passerby6497@lemmy.world · 22 pts · 96d
The obvious implication is copyrighted" content flagging, considering the account was banned after uploading a manga. Google drive used to be a source for links to Linux ISOs, so it's unsurprising that they're cracking down on it in the dumbest and laziest way possible.
zarkanian@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 95d
copyrighted*
dev_null@lemmy.ml · -15 pts · 96d
That's the implications the narrative tries to create by saying the content is "his own", and yet never spells it out, which is why it seems like a red herring to me.
Like, if it was his own CSAM, it doesn't make it any better he is the author.
SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 20 pts · 96d
Are you one of those people who thinks all japan is pedo or something
TheOakTree@lemmy.zip · -2 pts · 95d
I don't think so, and I also don't agree with AI moderation nuking someone's cloud backups...
But also I wouldn't find it surprising if it was marked as CSAM when the artist's cover art can look like this (NSFW). The material inside is probably much more explicit.
It certainly caters to a... specific audience.
EDIT: Link fixed. Thanks for mentioning.
starman2112@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 95d
Broken link. No idea which cover art you were referencing, but here's a couple: Not explicit, but still NSFW
Took a quick peek and it's uhh, definitely porn. Hot take: doesn't matter to me. There's people out there using Gmail to facilitate the torture and murder of real literal children. Why are we focusing on drawings instead of the people doing actual harm?
TheOakTree@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 95d
Oh, I agree. For Google to act like a paragon of justice on this front, while simultaneously turning a blind eye to the actual harm they facilitate is a joke. I guess as long as it's not relevant to training their AI image recognition, it doesn't call for the same level of moderation.
dev_null@lemmy.ml · -5 pts · 95d
No, why? I came up with an extreme example to illustrate my point: It's suspicious that they didn't say the reason for the ban, because if it's a bad reason they would have said what it is.
I don't imply any reason, especially the example I have given.
Jason2357@lemmy.ca · 7 pts · 95d
If Google didn't give a reason, then it would be poor journalism to speculate. Providing enough context for the reader to come to their own conclusions isn't a red herring, it is the correct way to report on it.
dev_null@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 95d
What journalism? This is the banned author posting on Twitter, they are the primary source, and could have said anything, including that Google didn't give a reason, if they didn't.
dawg@lm.kluge.cafe · 8 pts · 96d
the artist does draw nasty shit and chances are he uploaded that to his drive, but does that really matter? the issue is still there even with this context, google scans your private files you upload to gdrive and the ai without any human input can just destroy your (or if not your, an average person's) whole life by permanently banning your google account along with all linked services like gmail or sign in with google stuff
dev_null@lemmy.ml · 4 pts · 95d
No, which is why I started my comment by saying it doesn't matter.
AI moderation is bad regardless. Now that we have that settled, and have established Google is the bad guy here, I am interested what he was banned for.
gramie@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 95d
That's always been the deal. Google gives you free email and disk space, but they used everything you have for AI training and targeting advertising.
EuroNutellaMan@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 95d
What kind of nasty are we talking about?
zarkanian@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 95d
Maybe Google didn't give a reason.
CultLeader4Hire@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 95d
This question was exactly why I came to the comments. However even if he was doing something immoral like drawing child porn (I don’t care about anyone’s personal opinion on this subject so please spare me) unless doing so is illegal where he is (which it should be) he should be turned over to the police for pedophile crimes not having all his stuff deleted. Deleting child porn only makes the problem worse because offenders won’t be facing punishment, they essentially just get the filth wiped off their dirty faces and get back at it
There’s no context that makes it ok to just delete someone else’s stuff but I’m still curious about the content and if this person was just a pedophile
But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 95d
Stop relying on corporations to back up your art
Atlas48@ttrpg.network · -2 pts · 95d
easy for you to say
But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 94d
Yes I have a hard drive and a physical folder full of art. Very difficult
stretch2m@infosec.pub · 10 pts · 96d
spaceracoon@lemmy.zip · 10 pts · 96d
Good reminder to not place all "digital eggs" in the same basket ;)
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 96d
especially ifts the nest egg.
shani66@ani.social · 10 pts · 97d
Meanwhile the only thing I've ever used Google's online services for is piracy. I've got, like, three drives with ttrpg pdfs on them to share with friends (sorry Tom Bloom, but i did buy the originals)
warm@kbin.earth · 10 pts · 97d
Sucks big time for the user, but why are we still using Google, Microsoft etc when other solutions exist? Always back-up to a different service and encrypt first. Don't put all your eggs in one basket, ever.
ZDL@lazysoci.al · 19 pts · 96d
Ah yes. The ever-popular 'blame the victim' option. Brilliant. Why is this artist not aware of every single thing that the terminally online techie knows about? Probably the same reason that the terminally online techie likely can't read the Japanese post, can't draw a straight line without a ruler, and doesn't know anything about <insert some non-techie subject here, pretty much any non-techie subject).
If your technology stack needs all users to know all this esoteric shit, your entire technology stack is a failure. (And I don't care about the why question. I don't care why it's a failure. It doesn't matter. In the end it's a failure.)
mrvictory1@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 96d
I always have to keep this in mind when setting up something new for someone else
warm@kbin.earth · -2 pts · 96d
Good combative comment, with great passive aggressive tones! Although the point of my comment was just to make others, who aren't already, aware of using the evil corpos and relying entirely upon them.
ZDL@lazysoci.al · 2 pts · 95d
Your point was badly communicated given that you opened with a literal victim-blaming.
Learn to communicate better.
There. Was that aggression active enough?
warm@kbin.earth · -2 pts · 95d
Nah, youre just being dense. Point was obvious enough and there was no direct blaming, just a general statement.
warm@kbin.earth · -2 pts · 96d
mangobanana@discuss.online · 3 pts · 96d
What are the other solutions that are attainable by people who are not tech experts?
warm@kbin.earth · 0 pts · 96d
Good list here: https://www.privacyguides.org/en/tools/
mangobanana@discuss.online · 2 pts · 95d
Thank you
yumyumsmuncher@feddit.uk · 10 pts · 96d
Guys please backup your shit on blurays
BR disc sizes are:
25GB
50GB
100GB
Create an open session backup disc and add incremental backups monthly, mid year and end of year or yearly, etc...
Iheartcheese@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 96d
I doubt the average person, even among nerds here, has a Blu-ray burner. What's wrong with flash drives? They're even more durable.
iocase@lemmy.zip · 15 pts · 96d
If you get cheap large flash drives the thing that's wrong with them is QLC memory, and the fact flash memory rots over time.
Bitrot is a thing no matter the medium it's just what timescale we're talking about. Blurays are the poor man's LTO tape backups. M-disks were also good for a long time too. Very stable and high density.
However there is a way to make flash drives work for a backup solution. I would pair drives together in mirrors under ZFS. Maybe 4-6 drives in a pool, with 2-3 mirrors. That way you have error detection (ZFS checksums for every bit of data stored), and error correction (mirrored data across drives, along with the checksum to verify which copy is good).
It also allows you to run "ZFS scrub " to check everything once a month or so and detect corruption and fix it. ZFS can also identify a drive that's failing from consistent errors.
Edit: if you don't run Linux you could manage this using a raspberry pi 3 or 4 as the host. It could be a very low power and cheap NAS.
dpflug@hachyderm.io · 1 pts · 96d
iocase@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 96d
Yeah I buy used drives (prior to the AI boom) and mix the same specs from different manufacturers for that reason.
ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 96d
Flash memory cells have very limited lifetime, especially powered off. Seen motherboards die from not being powered on for a long time.
yumyumsmuncher@feddit.uk · 1 pts · 95d
>I doubt the average person, even among nerds here, has a Blu-ray burner.
They can be bought
BloodMuffin@lemmy.ca · 10 pts · 97d
bold_atlas@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 95d
-Create new RAR file
-Encrypt
-Password: #fuck$google69
-Copy paste dirty chinese cartoons
-Upload
-Sleep well
Also I'm pretty sure deleting/changing the file extension on your files will work too.crypt0cler1c@infosec.pub · 10 pts · 95d
Just don't use Google for fucks sake!!
ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 95d
Why would the file extension matter?
bold_atlas@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 95d
In theory google's AI will treat files accordingly to what the extension say. For example: If it sees image.jpeg it will treat it as such and will see the picture data. But if you rename it to image.txt it will treat it as a text file and all it will see gibberish.
ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 95d
Any real computer would look at the internal data to determine the type of file.
bold_atlas@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 95d
I figured since AI isn't a real computer (or at least doesn't act like one) but I just tested it with GPT and indeed it did recognize it. So scratch that idea.
quick_snail@feddit.nl · 8 pts · 97d
Link to article?
wanderinglurk@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 96d
That's the article. The Japanese post is from the artist.
quick_snail@feddit.nl · -1 pts · 96d
A post is not an article, and x is notba reliable source
wanderinglurk@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 96d
My friend, the artist made the statement on Twitter, in Japanese. That's the primary source of information that was translated into English for you to read.
dawg@lm.kluge.cafe · 6 pts · 96d
in the post
https://xcancel.com/AyakaMods/status/2057438125203296642#m
quick_snail@feddit.nl · 2 pts · 96d
Site doesn't load.
starman2112@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 95d
Site works fine on Firefox mobile
KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 96d
Does here.
quick_snail@feddit.nl · 0 pts · 96d
Try in tor browser on safest mode
KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 96d
Cool so you already know what the problem is.
quick_snail@feddit.nl · -1 pts · 96d
Yeah, the website. And the person who linked to a broken website. and the mods who didn't temp ban them.
People have a right to privacy.
starman2112@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 95d
But the website works fine? If your browser doesn't display it, then it's an issue with your browser. Your right to privacy doesn't entitle you to have every website work on your browser of choice
KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 96d
This is like complaining that your TV doesn’t work when you refuse to plug it in.
You are perfectly allowed to value your privacy over a working website, but don’t bitch about the website not working because of it.
dawg@lm.kluge.cafe · 0 pts · 96d
try in a normal browser mate
quick_snail@feddit.nl · -1 pts · 96d
It also doesn't work in Firefox with js disabled.
Oh, and Tor Browser is Firefox but safer. Or do you think only chrome is a normal browser?
dawg@lm.kluge.cafe · 0 pts · 96d
maybe because the website has a js captcha? turn on your brain dude
rustyfemboy@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 8 pts · 96d
"Don't be evil"
Zerush@lemmy.ml · 17 pts · 96d
Don't, be evil
PhoenixDog@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 96d
Ah they got this app screwed up.
ICastFist@programming.dev · 7 pts · 95d
I mean, Google hasn't offered support with real humans for over 8 years. Facebook has been on that even longer
quarkquasar@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 95d
OrteilGenou@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 96d
Seems like it is
Stopping man that is
BlindPenguin@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 95d
Did Google ever have a support department?
Also, one of many reasons i keep my backups in my own four walls. Granted, if everything burns down, it's gone. But in that case i'm going to have bigger problems than losing my data. Another alternative would be a portable disk locked away at the bank.
microcapybara@sopuli.xyz · 2 pts · 95d
I’m too cheap for a safe deposit box, but I work in an office and keep a hard disk there. I have two identical ones. One at the office, one at home receiving backups. Every couple of months, swap them out.
EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com · 1 pts · 95d
off-site physical storage is good praxis
leftzero@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 95d
Don't rely on the data in a hard drive powered down for a long time being useable when you need it (mechanical or SSD, doesn't matter, both will get corrupted much faster than you'd expect).
You want long term storage, use tape (most optical disks ain't good either).
bold_atlas@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 95d
Also If my house burns down then where the hell else am I going fap to porn at? It's useless at that point.
MeowerMisfit817@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 95d
Let's say I was trying to use this to make my relatives degoogle and added even an url showing Google's data hoarding and a degoogle alternatives list.
The only thing I got was... "Dad Gave Your Status a ❤️".
dawg@lm.kluge.cafe · 5 pts · 95d
it's kinda hard to convince older people to get rid of stuff they already depend on, even if it's as bad as google
MeowerMisfit817@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 95d
My father tested the TikTok spy rumors, proved it, and still passes most of his day doomscrolling on it.
zeroConnection@programming.dev · 5 pts · 96d
Ironic to complain about this on a Nazi platform. Fuck all the Nazi platform supporters the same way he wants everyone to fuck google.
mangobanana@discuss.online · 2 pts · 96d
I'm new here can you elaborate?
Buddahriffic@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 96d
He means twitter.
mangobanana@discuss.online · 1 pts · 95d
Oh I see.
SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 96d
If they just encrypted the files in a tar or rar nobody could have read those files
ghodawalaaman@programming.dev · 6 pts · 96d
google doesn't like encrypted data on their servers :(
tristynalxander@mander.xyz · 1 pts · 96d
hexagonwin@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 96d
kinda unrelated but in the comments that Twitter/X poster is recommending TeraBox(Baidu Netdisk in disguise), like wtf
gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone · -1 pts · 96d
Why is the tweet from a literal actual nazi with an ai-generated image of a woman in nazi uniform???
Why the fuck are you following Nazis?
dawg@lm.kluge.cafe · 4 pts · 96d
i know that guy has an ai generated pfp, that was just the only translation of the original post i could find
additionally the screenshot is not mine, it's from reddit, i don't even use xitter
gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 96d
It's more about the Nazi pfp
black_flag@lemmy.dbzer0.com · -8 pts · 97d
Being on X this makes me wonder what sort of "art" this person might have been making 🤔
mrmaplebar@fedia.io · 48 pts · 97d
Personally I don't think that should matter in this case. Why are they taking it upon themselves to moderate private user files?
Plus, we all know they're probably scraping all of it for AI training too.
Senal@programming.dev · 6 pts · 97d
Unless you're encrypting them yourself (and even then), there is no such thing as private user files in the cloud.
Especially with any of the big corps.
Noja@sopuli.xyz · 8 pts · 97d
In theory they are required to stop scanning private user files, at least for EU users after Chat Control was repealed.
Senal@programming.dev · 9 pts · 97d
In theory they are supposed to pay a commensurate amount of taxes.
snooggums@piefed.world · 5 pts · 97d
Private in this case means not posted publicly.
Senal@programming.dev · 1 pts · 96d
hmm, a somewhat narrow definition, but in that case, sure.
dawg@lm.kluge.cafe · 15 pts · 97d
porn, the answer is porn
TRBoom@lemmy.zip · 11 pts · 97d
Just dug a little bit and found the mangaka. Looked him up on MAL and yeah… porn.
The first manga I clicked into was in these lists: Absolute Freakiness, Sexually Explicit Manga, and Incest w plot.
What’s the tos on g-drive for porn?
lemmyng@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 97d
Can I have some sauce?
TRBoom@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 97d
Here you are
SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 96d
I have terabytes of porn on gdrive spread across hundreds of different free gdrive accounts. I opened those accounts when it was still easy to create new gmail accounts like a decade or more ago. Basically every time I downloaded a bunch of porno I uploaded it to a gdrive in case i wanted to see more than 5 minutes of those movies. And when it was full i just opened a new account. Non of those accounts have been flagged or taken down, except for inactivity. You can have porno on gdrive. They probably put their private "but she's a thousand years old" kind of hentai on there and got flagged by a bot for CSAM
sns@lemmy.dbzer0.com · -8 pts · 97d
isleepinahammock@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 16 pts · 97d
That seems like an unnecessarily hostile assumption.
_haha_oh_wow_@piefed.social · 5 pts · 97d
On X? The site with the CSAM generating "AI"?
isleepinahammock@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 16 pts · 97d
Sure. Some people do that. But this is an artist who creates their own work. You shouldn't just start throwing around those kind of allegations unless you can back them up. And no, guilt by association doesn't count.
BlackLaZoR@lemmy.world · -9 pts · 96d
Serves him well for using Google services. This isn't even about AI, this is about Google and privacy. It wouldn't ever happen on Proton Drive or Mega
InputZero@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 96d
Sure blame the victim. Anyone who uses their services is just asking for it right?
Agrivar@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 96d
Don't feed the troll!
BlackLaZoR@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 96d
If you give up your privacy for convenience, you get what you deserve.
mangobanana@discuss.online · 0 pts · 96d
Not everyone is a tech wizard though. Like some regular people don't know how to do anything else
BlackLaZoR@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 96d
You don't have to be a tech wizard to use protonmail
mangobanana@discuss.online · 1 pts · 95d
Never heard of it
BlackLaZoR@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 95d
That's because you've never even bothered to check available alternatives
mangobanana@discuss.online · 1 pts · 95d
How would I have known though?