They’re expensive because it’s the last one you’ll ever need ofc

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cannedtuna@lemmy.world · 211 pts · 42d (80 replies)

Funny enough this seems rather accurate according to this article. Graphic below from the article linked.

Elting@piefed.social · 60 pts · 42d (19 replies)

Not me still using the nalgenes despite all the ways they're objectivley bad.

fleem@piefed.zeromedia.vip · 26 pts · 42d (17 replies)

i got a nalgene or seven

why are they bad?

Elting@piefed.social · 64 pts · 42d (10 replies)

I have a similar number actually.

They're hard to clean, especially the lid and threads where your lips end up.

They're strong but brittle, drop a full one on a hard surface and it is likely to shatter

They aren't insulated, meaning they sweat and the water gets warm.

I have broken more of those stupid little straps that hold the lid on then I care to admit.

These newer water bottles seem to have a lot of nice little features that nalgenes don't .

Still they are the most practical and straightforward water bottle, they are allergic to leaking and will last forever (given you dont drop full ones on rocks.)

sem@piefed.blahaj.zone · 12 pts · 42d (2 replies)

I have had several. The only ways they've died:

Getting soft:

  • Campers leaving them in the sun for a long time
  • Many runs through the sanitizing cycle of the dishwasher

Breaking:

  • The tether for the lid
  • Once and only once, i had a full, dropped nalgene land on the cap at an angle, and shatter the threads/lip. Nalgene sent me a new one -- all they wanted was a picture of the damage.
Elting@piefed.social · 7 pts · 42d (1 reply)

I have really abused their replacement policy. Gotten like 5+ lids from them and two waterbottles. I took a photo of my brothers 20yo nalgene and they sent me a new one lol.

sem@piefed.blahaj.zone · 5 pts · 42d

I did not know they did new caps

PP_BOY_@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 42d (5 replies)

Nalgene are hard to clean, wut? Just put a drop of washing up liquid with water and give it a shake and take a soft brush to the threads. Still 10x easier than any other water vessel short of a bucket lol.

Warm water also hydrates better than cold water when you're actually in need too, so I never mind that

iamthetot@piefed.ca · 27 pts · 42d (3 replies)

Warm water also hydrates better than cold water when you're actually in need too, so I never mind that

This may be scientifically true, but it can't hydrate me if I don't drink it, and I'm about 1,000x more likely to drink it when it's nice and cold.

PP_BOY_@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 42d (2 replies)

Not me, but I'll respect a difference of opinion. Drinking cold water on a hot day makes me have to shit immediately. Lukewarm water, I can clear my while 32oz Nalgene in one guzzle, no cap

Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 6 pts · 42d

that doesnt seem normal, most people dont have this problem. your bottle could be still dirty, or had some bacteria in it. i often drink cold in hot days, i never get this.

prettybunnys@piefed.social · 3 pts · 42d

I love a sip of something cold but if I’m drinking water give it to me lukewarm.

I’m with you homie

P00ptart@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 42d

Warm water, cold water it's hard to choose when it comes to hydration in a lot of scenarios. Most of the time if you're sweating a lot, chances are you could use both the cooling effect of cold water and the faster hydration. In cold environments that's obviously a no-brainer.

Scrawny@reddthat.com · 3 pts · 42d

They're pretty tough. I've ran mine over with a tractor and it dented the bottom, but was otherwise fine. Had that one for 15 years.

evasive_chimpanzee@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 42d (3 replies)

Plastic. Also, just less easy to drink out of the wide mouth (which obviously has its benefits, and they make the insert to make it easier to drink from, anyway).

Elting@piefed.social · 69 pts · 42d (2 replies)

I like the wide mouth actually, love the sensation of dripping a bunch of water all over my chin in the summer (not joking.) Makes me feel like some kind of water slut.

null@piefed.nullspace.lol · 54 pts · 42d

image

crazycraw@crazypeople.online · 9 pts · 42d

this is probably going to be my favorite comment of the day.

Lumisal@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 42d

The water in them tastes weird from my experience when they gave us some for camping.

Bongles@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 42d
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vic_rattlehead@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 42d

Name one 😆

Zwiebel@feddit.org · 51 pts · 42d (22 replies)

People were drinking water out of those stanley "cups"?

Also as a German, where are:

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kambusha@sh.itjust.works · 22 pts · 42d (8 replies)

I just need to show my appreciation for the fact that these were 4 different images that aligned perfectly in height for me.

Zwiebel@feddit.org · 5 pts · 42d (7 replies)

Ok that's your client, they don't align for me :(

kambusha@sh.itjust.works · 22 pts · 42d (6 replies)

Here you go

gingersaffronapricat@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 41d (2 replies)

I’m American and specifically noticed the omission of sigg. I haven’t seen them sold here in years. But it was a distinct phase.

I don’t keep up with trends so much. But when my sigg disappeared, I got a mana? Manaa? Brand. It was just what they had at the store. A couple of weeks later i saw press about it as “the water bottle that can hold an entire bottle if wine.” I can’t say i ever tried it. My primary interest is hydration 😂

Zwiebel@feddit.org · 2 pts · 40d (1 reply)

That's so dumb lol, wine bottles are always .75l (in Europe?) and water bottles commonly 1l

gingersaffronapricat@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 40d

That is a funny observation. I’m not sure it holds up here. But it is a type of marketing i see. Water bottle sizes here are chaotic. I commonly see anywhere between .5l and 1.3l.

M137@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 42d (2 replies)

Oh, they're stacked vertically for me (Summit) so I had no idea what you meant by "aligned in height".
Have you seen comments with several images where they don't align? I'm guessing it's an automatic thing where it'll make them the same height no matter the resolution and/or height.
Also odd of you to not say what client you're using.

kambusha@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 42d (1 reply)

It's a secret I'll carry on my final voyage to the grave

Zwiebel@feddit.org · 3 pts · 42d

Grrrr

Jax@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 42d (5 replies)

I'm American and I fucking love those glass water bottles. I use them everyday, that exact kind.

Echolynx@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 41d (3 replies)

Where do you see them?

captainlezbian@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 41d (1 reply)

I got one at ikea

Zwiebel@feddit.org · 2 pts · 40d

Korken

Jax@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 41d

Mine were given to me as gifts by my mom, let me try to find them for you.

Edit: I'm gonna be totally honest, I think she bought them from Amazon or Walmart. If you look up swing top glass bottles you should see them, they're 33 fl. oz.

architect@thelemmy.club · 1 pts · 41d

Insanity right there.

Saapas@piefed.zip · 4 pts · 42d (1 reply)

Hey I got the milk jug one. Got it from a union event

Zwiebel@feddit.org · 3 pts · 42d

A trend among left-leaning uni students at some point

Lumisal@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 42d (1 reply)

What's the second one? I've been looking for one like that with a metal screw top

Zwiebel@feddit.org · 3 pts · 42d

I just searched for stainless steel water bottle in german and there's a bunch like this lol

They are on amazon.com too tho https://www.amazon.com/LyyGuanYoo-Stainless-Camping-Runners-Cyclists/dp/B0DXQCDPFQ/

captainlezbian@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 41d (1 reply)

That last one is awesome but I've only seen nerds use them

Honytawk@discuss.tchncs.de · 2 pts · 41d

If nerds are into them, they must be the best.

Nerds contemplate about things before they buy them.

someguy3@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 42d

Metal lid? Can't find that here.

LurkyLoo@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 42d

I don't know, that timeline kind of just seems like what's on sale at Costco, which does seem to rotate every few years. Could be a chicken or the egg kind of situation or just simply a people-like-costco kind of observation too.

Th4tGuyII@fedia.io · 17 pts · 42d (1 reply)

Oh my god. I've seen so many unbranded bottles just like the S'Well one and never knew where they came from. Guess I'm one of today's lucky 10,000

sem@piefed.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 42d

Me too

defaultusername@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 11 pts · 42d (3 replies)

I'm still looking for a fully stainless steel one with a stainless lid that has an unscrewable spout on a hinge like a metal flask, but large and water bottle shaped. All of these have plastic somewhere in the chain.

Carrot@lemmy.today · 6 pts · 42d

Yeah, my current favorite bottle is the yeti, but it still has plastic for the lid. If they ever made a stainless lid it'd be pretty close to the perfect bottle. Wide mouth that's super easy to clean, indestructible, replaceable seals, doesn't alter the flavor of the water, even after multiple days. Any bottle with a mouth that doesn't let me get my hand to the bottom, or doesn't let me see every part of every internal surface isn't cleanable enough for me.

Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 42d (1 reply)

unfortunately those are usually the only good ones. i never seen a metal one with a spout. i have one that insulated , ecovessel that is a fully metal cap you can take off and drink from. something similar to the pic below.

defaultusername@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 42d

I might just have to machine my own one of these days.

Earthwormjim91@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 42d (5 replies)

That chart is a bit outdated. That might be the millennial moms that pick up the trend late.

All the white Gen Z girls at work have HydroJug now. Owala was a a while back. Stanley was more covid era.

My wife has a fuckin entire cabinet dedicated to her damn cups.

Echolynx@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 41d (1 reply)

HydroJug

Why do they all look like copycats...

Earthwormjim91@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 40d

Because they basically are. There's only so many ways to design a double walled vacuum insulated cup lol.

Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 42d (2 replies)

ive been seeing those hydrojugs, they are stand in for stanleys.

Earthwormjim91@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 42d (1 reply)

If I’ve learned anything over the last 8-9 years, it’s that all these bottles are the same damn thing lol. One brand just happens to capitalize on a design trend first and that’s what lands.

urushitan@kakera.kintsugi.moe · 3 pts · 41d

And also blow a boatload of money on influencer marketing

Thebeardedsinglemalt@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 42d

Don't mind me, I'm just a Contigo hipster

peteypete420@sh.itjust.works · 7 pts · 42d (3 replies)

Yetti rambler for the win, especially with the chug lid.

Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 42d

I’m big on the magnetic screw off lid that connects to the side. I love the giant handle on the big lid for carrying and ice keeps way longer, but I’m downing like eight bottles a day so that’s not a big deal.

Only thing is, they’re stinky when new. Gotta soak the gasket in vinegar and wash it a lot.

hirihit640@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 42d (1 reply)

Based on GP comment's image, looks pretty similar to the hydroflask. What's the difference?

peteypete420@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 41d

Cant say for sure, I think they are probably similar. I was still using nalgene then. (Still keep a nalgene, it has its uses).

hactar42@lemmy.ml · 7 pts · 42d (1 reply)

As a youth girls soccer coach, I'm so glad Stanley's finally stopped being popular. Every girl that brought one to practice would inevitably have it too over and spill. It got to the point where I had to tell parents all water bottles had to have a lid that completely closed.

ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 42d

I'm a school bus driver. I could have built a house by now entirely made from the water bottles that kids leave behind on my bus. They wouldn't work for the roof, you say? That's what the ear bud cases are for.

Eat_Your_Paisley@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 42d (1 reply)

As a middle class, middle age white man I stopped at the hydroflask and yeti on that timeline

zalgotext@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 42d

Work for a tech company long enough and you'll have a few of each of these

Source: work for a tech company and have a few of each of these

charokol@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 42d (1 reply)

Still stuck in the past with a CamelBak

BoosBeau@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 42d

I get most of my fluids from a CamelToe

MrKoyun@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 42d (3 replies)

welp. this is my introduction to owala. here we go

OhStopYellingAtMe@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 42d

I’ve never owned a dedicated water bottle before and decided to get one. At random I picked Owala. I’d never heard of them but liked the way the lid worked. A few weeks later I see Owala everywhere.

I’m right on the front swell of a trend!

proudblond@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 42d (1 reply)

I have three of the water bottles on the image and I gotta say, I do really like the Owala. I’m personally a fan of straws but I vastly prefer having something that I can close and throw in a bag without it leaking. The Owala fits that. The only problem I’ve had is if I don’t clean it for a while. I only use water, but after a while the water I drink out of it will start to make my mouth feel dry and taste bad, if that makes any sense at all. I’ve found scrubbing the silicone seal on the lid makes a big difference.

(Also I’m a basic white middle aged bitch so I guess only having three of the bottles in the image is good… right? Bleh.)

Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 42d

plastic caps or parts are likely to get dirty faster, and you have to clean it out everday, i clean it with dish detergent once in a while as well. i use only hot water to clean.

WagnasT@piefed.world · 4 pts · 42d

Owala actually covering the part that goes in your mouth is pretty dope though. I still use a nalgene that was a swag gift from forever ago, KISS for room temperature water, perfect for the gym.

hardcoreufo@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 42d

I had some acquaintance who was a hydroflask rep or something in 2017. He saw my 5 year old beat to hell hydro flask ran out to his car and brought me two more for being an "og supporter." I was like I guess this is cool I just hated my water getting warm in plastic ones.

anomnom@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 42d

Missed Sigg in there in the mid 2000s. But it and the Nalgene were BPA sources I thought. The rest are dumb, any stainless with a good seal works for me.

ThePantser@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 42d

Just like cellphones, they get big then shink.

qaz@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 42d

What about the dopper?

HerbGrower@slrpnk.net · 2 pts · 42d

My partner got me a water bottle in the late 2010s, its still going just fine. Few scratches on the paint now and minor dents in places but that is it.

Could do with an insulated flask that can hold strew. Boil some veg/stock in the morning and pour into the flask, it cooks during the day and can have it as my lunch at work. Similar to cooking in a slow cooker or haybox.

Echolynx@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 41d

I ended up getting a Camelbak stainless steel one now. Wide mouth and no flimsy nooks, so it's super easy to clean compared to most of these. I was surprised they're still going strong despite all the new(ish) players.

oyo@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 42d

Closer and closer.

albbi@piefed.ca · 1 pts · 42d

I bought in at S'well, am I an early adopter? I'm surprised Mii isn't on the list.

lemonhead2@lemmy.world · 46 pts · 42d (6 replies)

oh lol. they got my wife at stanley.

she bought 4 (one for everyone in the family) at $40 a piece. in protest, I bought about 10 used quality water bottles from my gyms lost and found sale for $1 each.

all u could see in our cabinets were water bottles. I think my wife gets that we have enough now so I'm safe from the next version...

lost_faith@lemmy.ca · 29 pts · 42d

Until she "cleans" one day and 3/4 vanish without a trace, lol

kernelle@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 11 pts · 42d (3 replies)

As long as its insulated so I can drink cold water all day I'm happy

Grail@multiverse.soulism.net · 6 pts · 42d (2 replies)

I like room temperature water. An insulated bottle is nice because the water stays room temperature even as the temperature in the room fluctuates.

ramasses@social.ozymandias.club · 7 pts · 42d (1 reply)

I use an insulated bottle to drink room temperature water. Gotta make sure it stays room temperature.

Grass@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 42d

Actually though. I work in sun and snow but my drinks are always room temperature

sem@piefed.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 42d

Can never beat the value of used

Bob_Robertson_IX@discuss.tchncs.de · 42 pts · 42d (5 replies)

Still rocking my canteen

tetris11@feddit.uk · 24 pts · 42d

Same

Eheran@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 41d (2 replies)

But how to clean it properly inside?

Janx@piefed.social · 2 pts · 41d

That's the neat thing...

Bob_Robertson_IX@discuss.tchncs.de · 1 pts · 40d

Malyca@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 42d

I have the same one! Bought it at least 15 years ago.

iilwl@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 38 pts · 42d (10 replies)

I bought some off brand stainless 32oz insulated bottle 12 years ago for around twenty bucks. I fill it with ice and then fill the voids with water, and there is still ice a day and a half later, even at the height of summer. I've been through several universal lids with different designs for various ways to sip and to carry it. I have dropped it from several feet onto concrete a number of times, resulting in denting you can't even really see. I probably got the one gem out of many duds, or one of a good run in production, but I'll be disappointed when it does inevitably fail and I have to get something else.

rumschlumpel@feddit.org · 24 pts · 42d (9 replies)

I hate it when I stumble upon a well-made item that didn't command a luxury price, and I just know that it won't be available anymore when it eventually breaks. Recently had to get a new PC keyboard, my options were paying 200€ or accepting a feature/usability downgrade ...

Skullgrid@lemmy.world · 21 pts · 42d

welp, we made a small batch of high quality items, sold them all to everyone that needed them, and I made a neat profit. They aren't buying more because we made them high quality. We done here. I'm not expanding the consumer base, I'm tired.

Dpek@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 42d (7 replies)

What was the old one?

rumschlumpel@feddit.org · 4 pts · 42d (6 replies)

A "Logitech Illuminated Keyboard", couldn't even find a more detailed model name. Backlit keys with brightness controlled by buttons on the keyboard, rubberdome keys, corded, and practically silent. You can still find okay keyboards with these kinds of keys that aren't too expensive, but not with lighting.

Zwiebel@feddit.org · 7 pts · 42d (3 replies)

The AUDACITY to put RUBBER DOME and QUALITY in the same sentence!!!!!!

(jk jk xD)

rumschlumpel@feddit.org · 6 pts · 42d (2 replies)

Needs more TAKKA TAKKA TAKKA!

But seriously, I never got on with any mechanical keyboards I tried, I like my keyboards with silence and low key action. Even "silent" mechanical keys aren't that quiet.

Zwiebel@feddit.org · 2 pts · 42d (1 reply)

The low action can be had in low-profile switches I suppose. Have you tried lubed silent switches?

rumschlumpel@feddit.org · 2 pts · 42d

IIRC I tried regular brown switches with rubber rings. I suppose I could try actual low-profile switches, but TBH I'm not very motivated to add another project to my list ...

DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 41d (1 reply)

I was expecting the K800, upon which I am typing these words, till I got to "corded". For me the K800 is the perfect keyboard. I own three of them, but they don't make them anymore, sadly.

rumschlumpel@feddit.org · 1 pts · 41d

I should definitely make a habit out of buying more than one if I find something reasonably priced that I like. I usually take too long to make up my mind ...

hkspowers@lemmy.today · 24 pts · 42d (2 replies)

I purchased an RTC stainless steel insulated tumbler in 2015. It's the only cup I ever use and it's still going strong after daily use and still looks brand new. Was 20 bucks (they were clearly undercutting Yeti at the time). It's been a solid purchase, I think the same cup from them now runs 40 bucks on Amazon.

Then again I'm still using the same plastic ninja turtle bowl I got from a box of Cookie Crisp cereal in 1988... So anything will last a very long time with care.

llii@discuss.tchncs.de · 7 pts · 41d (1 reply)

Then again I’m still using the same plastic ninja turtle bowl I got from a box of Cookie Crisp cereal in 1988…

Back when there were cool goodies in cerial boxes. I miss those days. I especially remember getting Rollercoaster Tycoon 1 on CD once.

titanicx@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 41d

They had to stop that because they were targeting kids and forcing sugary cereal on them with bribes.

fruitycoder@sh.itjust.works · 24 pts · 42d (1 reply)

I gave away everything but a bowl to hold my water, but I saw a boy drink water from only his hands.

How have become so materialistic?

WoodScientist@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 42d

Quit blocking my Sun.

Bubbaonthebeach@lemmy.ca · 23 pts · 42d (2 replies)

I'm a poor consumer. I have my first insulated coffee cup from about 25 years ago. I bought a second one for tea about 15 years ago. I have had several water bottles of different sizes all from promos that I have kept and used since I received them - the newest is aluminum and 12 years old. The oldest is 25 or 30 years old. Although my husband may make up for my lack of buying - he is always trying out new hydration systems for hiking & biking.

tempest@lemmy.ca · 10 pts · 42d

You can upgrade for cheap to the last fad beverage container by visiting your nearest thrift store. Currently they will a bunch of Stanley cups for very cheap. Your other option is know someone in sales or just walk through a trade show where they will give you swag (junk land fill) which usually includes yeti cups as of late.

glitch1985@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 42d

I used a $10 Wal-Mart brand one every day for a few months to make sure I'd actually use it. Then I upgraded to a Stanley when they were on sale since it's also dishwasher safe and the lid on my Walmart one was starting to not seal as well.

Captain_Buddha@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 42d (11 replies)

Got me a nalgene, with the small opening... I'm not one of those water sluts who enjoy the dribble.

SqueakySpider@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 9 pts · 42d (2 replies)

Getting splashed in a moving vehicle by the wide mouth ones is so fucking annoying and almost guaranteed.

eneff@discuss.tchncs.de · 8 pts · 42d

May I introduce you to the Wide Mouth Easy Sipper?

A picture of the Nalgene Wide Mouth Easy Sipper, a plastic insert for wide mouth drinking bottles

Dozzi92@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 42d

Ha, yep. Precovid I was in a suit for work, and I'd show up with just big wet patches on my shirts all the time, so I switched to the narrow mouth, which are more of a pain to clean, but don't have that problem. I now rarely travel for work, so I've been considering going back to the big guy.

chiliedogg@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 42d (1 reply)

It's less about the dribble than the easy clean.

Captain_Buddha@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 42d

It's definitely easier to clean my wide-mouth ones.

glitch1985@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 42d (2 replies)

They make an insert for the wide mouth so you can sip it without water boarding yourself.

glitch1985@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 42d (1 reply)

PolarKraken@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 5 pts · 42d

BOOOO water slut fo lyfe

YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today · 4 pts · 42d (2 replies)

All my people are saying FDT!

Markus29@lemmy.today · 4 pts · 42d (1 reply)

Fuck Donald Trump?

YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 42d
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AnimalsDream@slrpnk.net · 19 pts · 42d (17 replies)

No plastic, no aluminum. No glass either just because I'm clumsy. Wide opening only. If I can't fit my hand in to clean it, I don't want it.

I have a 64 oz one, and a 128 oz one. Am aiming for them to be buy-it-for-lifers.

BetaBlake@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 42d (8 replies)

What material?

CluckN@lemmy.world · 50 pts · 42d (6 replies)

Asbestos

chiliedogg@lemmy.world · 26 pts · 42d (1 reply)

Absolutely. With proper application, asbestos can make all kinds of products last the rest of your life.

Whirling_Ashandarei@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 42d (3 replies)

The miracle material!

YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today · 11 pts · 42d (2 replies)

My water is so protected from unexpected fires!

Aneb@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 42d (1 reply)

Thank god, my water keeps spontaneously combusting now my house is safe from water thanks to asbestos

mattyroses@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 42d

Worth it for that sulphur flavor though

AnimalsDream@slrpnk.net · 2 pts · 42d

Stainless steel.

surewhynotlem@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 42d (7 replies)

Why no aluminum

AnimalsDream@slrpnk.net · 1 pts · 42d (6 replies)

I'm a little concerned about the potential for aluminum toxicity.

MutilationWave@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 42d (5 replies)

In what way is aluminum toxic?

Edit- I looked it up. If you have kidney disease it can accumulate and cause other problems, but the amount entering the body from aluminum cooking items is incredibly low. I'd imagine even lower from a drinking cup.

source

AnimalsDream@slrpnk.net · 2 pts · 42d (4 replies)

Enh maybe it's fine. Even so, steel is real.

pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 42d (3 replies)

Aluminum is not strong enough for me. I need to buy the most indestructible products because I will unintentionally break them. I have broken a nalgene already

AnimalsDream@slrpnk.net · 1 pts · 42d (2 replies)

In that case if all else fails, there is titanium.

pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 41d

Which stainless steel still beats in terms of strength. The main advantage of titanium is it's really light

someguy3@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 42d (4 replies)

Where my Klean Kanteen folks?

egrets@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 42d (1 reply)

Every new dent is a testament to the amount of service my Klean Kanteen sees. I'll be devastated if I ever lose it.

zaphod@sopuli.xyz · 6 pts · 42d

Mine must be around 11 years old now. At some point it couldn't stand upright anymore, so I hit it with a hammer.

Grass@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 42d

Here. Got the not quite 2L flip top and its more of a ball than a bottle at this point but I have been given no reason to stop using it.

X@piefed.world · 1 pts · 42d

🤘🙂‍↕️

kossa@feddit.org · 16 pts · 41d (8 replies)

😅😅😅. Wtf is even this Owala Shit.

Like

Hello, yes, it's water bottle.

A water bottle designed for people who drink water. You can hydrate fast

😅😅😅. Who's coming up with that shit?

Their FAQs

Does the Owala bottle contain lead?

Like, this is seriously the most frequently asked question?

They don't even have pictures of the opened bottle or how you actually drink from it to show "how to hydrate faster".

The whole thing looks like crazy satire which went to far.

And what a steal. Only 42 € for a fucking water bottle (plus shipping, 'cause why not).

thatKamGuy@sh.itjust.works · 9 pts · 41d (3 replies)

Not familiar with Osaka either, but that question about lead makes sense - as that was the cause for the downfall of the previous fad-bottle brand Stanley.

Sp00kyB00k@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 41d (2 replies)

Hold up, that one contained lead?

DreadPirateSnuggles@lemmy.ca · 8 pts · 41d (1 reply)

They use it as a seal plug on the exterior base for the vacuum chamber which is then sealed.

Not ideal but not as bad as it sounds. But still a silly thing to do, especially considering the target audience.

JcbAzPx@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 41d

They weren't exactly the target audience. It was more like when teenage boys started liking My Little Pony. A complete surprise, but they took advantage of it as well as they could.

captainlezbian@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 41d

The lead question is unfortunately necessary. A lot of vacuum bottles have lead

architect@thelemmy.club · 1 pts · 41d (2 replies)

Owala is the best bottle. 36 hours of freezing cold water that doesn’t leak at all. That sounds harder to come by than you’d think.

Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 41d

Sounds like a problem that THERMOS solved in like the 1950s I'm guessing?

LemmingLemmy@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 41d

Hard agree here. Owala is also designed way better. It’s not a flip straw or a regular screw top. The sip/chug mouth design makes it easy to drink from the straw because the wide open air exchange, and the shape of the chug opening is easy to drink without spilling. The top is secure that I never have to worry about spillage. I also don’t have to worry about getting the mouth piece dirty because it’s constantly exposed like hydro flask. Saying Owala is another water bottle is simply not fair.

Phantaloons@piefed.zip · 15 pts · 42d (2 replies)

Absolute Barbarian Mode: Diet Coke bottle full of water

dogs0n@sh.itjust.works · 15 pts · 42d (1 reply)

Barbarians could only hope for all those microplastics. You are one level up, my friend.

Phantaloons@piefed.zip · 9 pts · 42d

I should level up to mason jar and make cops think I'm downing moonshine in broad daylight.

M137@lemmy.today · 13 pts · 42d

Middle class white women are like men who only play AAA shooters or sports games and kids with most things; they see something that's becoming popular and latch onto it like parasites and make it their whole personality.
There are many other groups of people loke this bit I'm too fucking tired ATM and already in bed to list any more, it's all just a never ending thing.

lemmysmash@piefed.social · 11 pts · 42d (5 replies)

It certainly isn't the most appealing sight when I suck on one of these, but damn they're practical.

sad_detective_man@sopuli.xyz · 35 pts · 42d (4 replies)

Bet the pfas in that dissolve so fast that they teleport straight to your ballsack the day you were born

Tikiporch@lemmy.world · 35 pts · 42d

Silicone bottles shouldn't contain PFAs.

Then again neither should rivers and streams and fish and your ballsack, so take that with a grain of Teflon.

LeFrog@discuss.tchncs.de · 8 pts · 42d (2 replies)

They are peanuts compared to the PFAS you will get from eating animal products, especially fish.

Phantaloons@piefed.zip · 7 pts · 42d

As a matter of fact, just stop eating and drinking altogether.

BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 41d

I'll bet none of that delectable lab grown meat contains any micro plastics, unless they add it for authenticity: "Now with Microplastics!"

sundray@lemmus.org · 11 pts · 42d

Microplastics. Lead. Hydration is a dangerous game.

Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca · 9 pts · 42d (2 replies)

Been using that one disposable Evian water bottle I bought at Niagara Falls twenty years ago.

rbos@lemmy.ca · 11 pts · 42d (1 reply)

Mmm tasty microplastics.

Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca · 9 pts · 42d

I'm from the era of asbestos, micro plastics ain't no big thing.

_spiffy@piefed.ca · 8 pts · 41d (1 reply)

I've been using nalgene bottles forever because I like my water room temperature. Im probably 80% microplastics now.

BeMoreCareful@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 41d

I carried one for like a decade, I've got a couple of metal bottles that I've had for years now too.

I think we are all fully marinated in petroleum byproducts.

tal@lemmy.today · 7 pts · 41d (2 replies)

They're expensive because it's the last one you'll ever need

Every 3 years a new water bottle brand completely oneshots middle class white women like clockwork

There are lots of targeted products and demographics for which this sort of thing is true. My guess is that this is probably very far from the most costly example, though.

My water bottle --- I got one as part of a kit for my bike --- is determinedly untrendy and plastic, but it looks like these Owala things are $29. If I got one of those instead and did so every three years, that'd be $10/year. Is it necessary or financially optimal? No, probably not, but for perspective, a large pizza is about $30 where I am. The water bottle is probably a healthier unnecessary purchase than the pizza...and I get a pizza a lot more frequently than one every three years.

I mean, the !flashlight@lemmy.world or the !fountainpens@lemmy.world or the !knives@sopuli.xyz or the !EDC@sopuli.xyz people all have their own often-not-really-necessary items that they get and carry around --- and most of those tend to be more guy things --- that in all honesty are mostly for fun. You could buy a number of these Owala water bottles for what a nice Spyderco knife might run, and you don't need to pay what a Spyderco knife runs to get a sharp bit of metal to have with you.

dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 41d (1 reply)

You're going to call out !knives@sopuli.xyz and not !pocketknife@lemmy.world? Hey, now.

We are committed to getting people to spend money on dumb shit over here.

tal@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 41d

Thanks. Looks like I'm subscribed to both, and just hit the first when searching. The latter does seem to be more active.

And I'm not trying to single out those people. Looking at that community list, I have probably seven or eight pocketknives myself (including two Spydercos), several flashlights (including a tri-18650-cell, Anduril-firmware flashlight), probably a dozen fountain pens (including one gold nib-equipped one), and a multitool that I carry with me. Those are, if I am to be honest, unnecessary toys --- I would be at most very mildly inconvenienced if every one of those disappeared tomorrow. Just saying that before we get too enthusiastically involved in bagging on the middle-class white woman who spends $10/year on a not-really-necessary fad waterbottle...maybe everyone should consider their own unnecessary stuff. If they're truly more disciplined and ascetic, fair enough. But I think on the "toy" scale, the fad waterbottle probably isn't especially bad.

minorkeys@sh.itjust.works · 7 pts · 42d

Followed shortly by the new, and not better, water holding devices.

smh@slrpnk.net · 7 pts · 42d (2 replies)

I'm up to three 30oz Yeti "stackable cups". They're great--insulated, dishwasher safe, durable, replaceable lids, fit in my cup holder, fits my hand.

And then Yeti discontinued the size. (the 30 oz tumbler is a different shape than the stackable cup, it's wider at the bottom and too big for my hands). Grumble.

tal@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 41d (1 reply)

hits Google Shopping, which indexes pretty much anything you can buy on the Web

I assume that you're talking about this:

https://www.rei.com/product/127087/yeti-rambler-tumbler-with-magslider-lid-30-fl-oz

And not this, which has a wider base:

https://www.redironbrand.com/p/LGQWZ-HWNFX/yeti-rambler-30-oz-stackable-cup-w-magslider-lid-laser-engraved

....though confusingly, it's the latter called a "stackable cup" and the former a "tumbler".

smh@slrpnk.net · 2 pts · 41d

This is what I like: https://merc.li/CwgZNBjDb?sv=0 , which is confusingly the same cup as https://merc.li/U7v2s8beb?sv=0 . (Near as I can tell, Yeti changed how they measure volume when they went from straw to mag slider lids)

persona_non_gravitas@piefed.social · 5 pts · 42d (1 reply)

Anything with a lid roughly like this one. Wide Nalgene-compatible mouth for filling and screwing on the appropriately-sized bottle you feel like that day or had to replace, and has smaller drinking-hole with an attached screw-on cap.

zalgotext@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 42d

Oh shit that's my festival bottle. Super easy to fill at whatever jank ass water station setup the venue has, easy to drink from, and I can clip it to a carabiner on my bag strap for hands-free storage 🤘

Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 42d (3 replies)

I've been using Doppers ever since I got like 4 gifted to me in two years. After I bought one, of course.

raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 42d (2 replies)

Dopper(s?) gets nasty around the sealing ring eventually. Mine turned algae-green with no way to properly get it off; I didn't manage to clean it anyways.

Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 42d (1 reply)

I can remove the ring on all of mine? Just put something pointy under it and pull it out. You can even order replacements.

raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 42d

Mhh... Never tried too hard but it looked very heat-fused / welded in.

pedantichedgehog@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 42d

I got an owala at sams club ages ago and the isulation is crazy on those things. I once forgot it at work and it still had ice in it a full day (like 20+ hours) when I went to get it

Zorque@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 42d

I have a collection of knock-off brands from Costco. I like all the pretty colors.

dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 42d (9 replies)

I completely missed something with this whole trend. I get wanting to go metal (or glass) to avoid microplastics, but is it all just conspicuous consumption after that, or am I missing something more fundamental?

Meanwhile, I'm only using a steel flask on hiking trips; a freebie from a previous job at that. A coffee cup or glass does the job for me at the office.

sem@piefed.blahaj.zone · 13 pts · 42d (8 replies)

Here is my guide to what you may be missing, using the the image:

Context:

Pre nalgene mass market water bottles were not durable and tasted gross.

Innovations:

  1. Nalgene innovation: durability, relatively inert plastic
  2. Camelbak eddy innovation: straw
  3. S'well: insulated
  4. Hydroflask: insulated and wide-mouth so you can put ice in it
  5. Simple modern: It fits in a car cupholder (also straw comes back)
  6. Stanley: adds a handle
  7. Owala: ???

For me, i never felt the desire for a straw, so I've done fine preferring Nalgene first and now Hydroflask. Very rarely i lose one, but I'm always getting them as gifts from workplaces, etc.

Whirling_Ashandarei@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 42d

Owalas are crap. I got one as a gift and the lid hinge broke in a year. My hydro meanwhile stays strong.

dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 42d

Thanks for the thoughtful reply. I had no idea this has been going on for this long, even though all this stuff was in plain sight the whole time.

normonator@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 42d (4 replies)

#6 also added lead

Grass@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 42d (3 replies)

When? Are the ones from before the white mom rush okay?

sem@piefed.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 42d (2 replies)

If there is no source i don't think it's real

subterfuge@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 42d (1 reply)
sem@piefed.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 42d

Saving clicks:

Man pulls a Stanley tumbler from store shelf

After Stanley fans posted home lead test results on social media, the company confirmed the viral insulated tumblers do contain lead. Here’s what experts are saying.

Stanley, the makers of the tumblers that have become a viral sensation, have come under scrutiny this week. Social media users, specifically on TikTok and Instagram, have been sharing videos showing at-home lead test findings, and the results are worrying faithful Stanley sippers.

Dozens of consumers are posting videos claiming that their tumblers tested positive for lead. It's often unclear from the videos which or how many different brands of at-home lead tests these consumers are using, but to be EPA-certified, home lead tests such as D-Lead must produce an accurate result (when used correctly) 95% of the time. At-home lead tests for drinking water are less reliable.

In response to the claims, Stanley issued a statement about lead in its product.

"At Stanley, one of the key features of our products is our vacuum insulation technology, which provides consumers with drinkware that keeps beverages at the ideal temperature," the company wrote on its website, acknowledging that lead is used in the manufacturing process. The statement continues, "Once sealed, this area is covered with a durable stainless steel layer, making it inaccessible to consumers. Rest assured that no lead is present on the surface of any Stanley product that comes into contact with the consumer nor the contents of the product." 

The BBC reached out to Stanley for additional comment and they responded with the same statement available on their website. The online statement concludes that Stanley products "meet all US regulatory requirements".

What consumers need to know about lead content in drinkware

How much should consumers worry about lead in products, especially those used for eating and drinking? Lead exposure has well-documented health consequences, especially for children. According to The World Health Organization (WHO), "There is no known safe blood lead concentration", and even miniscule amounts found in blood "may be associated with decreased intelligence in children, behavioural difficulties and learning problems".

According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), lead exposure can also lead to growth, hearing and speech problems and damage to the brain and nervous system. And in adults, lead exposure can lead to high blood pressure, cardiovascular issues and more. It's dangerous for pregnant persons because lead can be transferred to a developing foetus, and is also associated with a high risk of miscarriage. Additionally, lead poisoning can be fatal.

Thankfully, federal and state laws in the US have drastically helped lower the amount of lead people are exposed to, but it’s still found in some products. The most common place it's still found is in lead-based paint in homes that were built before 1978 (when such paint was banned). The CDC now tracks lead-related product recalls. In the UK, lead pipes were banned in the 1970s but the sale of lead paint wasn’t banned until 1992.

When it comes to the lead in Stanley cups, however, experts aren't too concerned. Jack Caravanos, a professor of public health at New York University who studies the effects of lead exposure, tested three of the cups himself and came up with no lead. He even said he tried to pry the cup open to test the inside, and failed. 

"There appears to be lead, according to the report," Caravanos told the BBC, "but I had trouble detecting it and wasn’t able to detect it using state-of-the-art equipment." He says this is probably because the lead was "too deep inside the unit", meaning it would be very tough to be exposed to it or ingest it.

He added that while he’s not worried about drinking from his own Stanley, he also takes issue with the fact that companies still use lead to manufacture their products at all, and mentioned that under Proposition 65, products sold in California need to disclose if they contain even trace amounts of lead. Stanley's brand FAQs state that "all Stanley items comply with Prop 65 and FDA requirements."

Patty Davis, press secretary for the US Consumer Product Safety Commission, says that while she can't comment on the lead in Stanley products, similar products from other companies with "excessive levels of lead", such as a kids' cup sold on Amazon by Klickpick, among others, have recently been recalled.

"We ask consumers to report incidents or safety concerns with consumer products to CPSC at www.SaferProducts.gov. They can also search for product recalls there," she told the BBC. 

Phantaloons@piefed.zip · 2 pts · 42d

fills a sprite bottle up

"that'll do"

pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 42d (9 replies)

I think the owala is almost perfect. Owala is probably the most revolutionary out of all the previous ones. The crazy downside is you can't put hot water in it

WoodScientist@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 42d (6 replies)

Care to explain?

DreadPirateSnuggles@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 41d (2 replies)
  • It's easy to clean, easy to use, easy to carry
  • the lid completely covers the mouthpiece
  • the new ones have a decent handle
  • doesn't have any wear components. -You can use the straw when driving or reading so you don't block your vision.

The only real downside is that it can spill if the lid is open and it tips over.

It's way better then anything else I've seen on the market or the camelback one I used for 15 years before I got this one.

architect@thelemmy.club · 2 pts · 41d

It’s got a lock to stop that spill. At least the one I have does.

WoodScientist@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 41d

Thanks!

pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 41d (2 replies)

Not sure if you've seen these but you can drink out of these like a normal bottle but it also has an integrated straw. Pretty epic.

WoodScientist@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 41d (1 reply)

That is cool!

pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 40d

Out of all the water bottle trends, this trend is the only one actually offering something new. It just sucks you can only use it for warm or cold water, some tea in this would be epic.

bandanawearingbanana@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 41d (1 reply)

Ofc, it's the most recent one.

BeMoreCareful@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 41d

It's always the last place you look.

Hueristic_Autistic@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 42d

Rtic>yeti

Berlinblades@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 41d (3 replies)

I saw one of those 24 bottles on a window sill in the lecture hall. It's Made from recycled Aluminium from 24 Coken cans i believe.

When i returnwd to the same hall two weeks later it was still there in the exact samespot, so i thought "im having that!" and bright it home.

It's excellent,sealsconfidently,tastes amazing out of the fridge.

10/10 recommend.

Karen is in to something!

dustyData@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 41d (2 replies)

Just remember that the hard part is not buying the thing, but keeping it clean. I've seen some filthy MFs drinking swamp water with a dash of mold. Some of those chic water bottle designs are nearly impossible to keep clean.

floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 41d

24bottles are also easy to clean. Wide opening, gentle threading on the cap, one rubber gasket that can come off. They sell replacement caps+gaskets if you let one get too moldy

architect@thelemmy.club · 2 pts · 41d

Owala is easy to clean.

captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 42d
betanumerus@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 41d
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buzz86us@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 41d (1 reply)

Yes, it was RTIC, then Stanley, now Owala?? Were the Nalgene ever a thing?

LastYearsIrritant@sopuli.xyz · 2 pts · 41d

Nalgene was the thing if you were "outdoorsy" in the late 90's, early 00's

Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 42d
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Fmstrat@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 42d

I'll stick with my Grayl. No trendy water bottles filter out viruses.

AVincentInSpace@pawb.social · 1 pts · 19d

okay i am on the owala hype train not because they are the current thing but because they are simply good bottles

they have a straw and a big enough air inlet that the straw is actually usable, plus you can drink from them the normal way if you want.

the one thing i hate is that they don't have a locking mechanism. the only way to "lock" them closed is to push the carrying handle down over the release button, which you can't do if it's clipped to something and even then you can still easily get it open if you jam your fingernail in there. if there was a bottle with all three features I'd buy it in a heartbeat.