And just to throw out therr, I get it, people need to make money, I am not against advertising, but fuck the ads are SOOOOO MANY and all come off as SOOOOOO scammy.
If you are showing me an ad online, I assume you and the product are just trying to rip me off and whatever is being promoted is a scam. If it was just "Hey, McDonalds has McRibs" in a little banner, ok fine, whatever. But its all this wild cheap garbage from weird fucking bull shit websites. What happened to actually having a sales person vet this shit?
Same here. A buddy of mine was listening to YT Music on a speaker when an infomercial length ad started talking (uh, I mean, lying) about all the how and why the United States has the best healthcare system in the world and there's no good reason to change any of it.
A lot of ads just seem like AI advertising made-up products that don't exist, gambling, or payday loans. Or sometimes totally normal things like a local college.
Normal college that makes you take out loans, or worse, sketchy technical schools that promise they'll help you find a job if you just sign up for a 20k loan
Surprisingly just the local community college that's been around for decades. ~$1000/semester for full-time in-district residents or ~$1600/semester for in-state but out-of-district). Not sure why they're doing ads like they're a scam, unless there's been some changes such that they are.
It all went to shit when advertisers realized that they don't actually have to sell anything. The ad is the product. That's why so much advertisement is a scam now. Regulation is so far behind the problems of the internet it is ridiculous. Some companies entire business model is to put out ads, then funnel the data straight to data brokers. The products aren't real, they just have to get prints, eyes and occasional curiosity or accidental clicks, and they make a margin over it. It is madness.
I realised this myself when i had to watch some youtube video in a browser without adblock. There was literal porn as an ad. The second of two was some hentai game, but at least it was half blurred. I have no idea who used that browser to get those targeted ads, it was a shared computer.
I'm always surprised when a band mate wants to share a song with me and they whip up their phone and absolutely tolerate 45s of ads before the music starts
I want to say they recently laid off a bunch of people for AI coding despite pushing against AI music. Plus their owners are kind of increasingly Vulture Capitalisty.
I can't find it at theoment but Insaw something on reddit and lined up a list of alternatices but of course, the alternative suggestions are even more smaller and niche.
True that. Rather than do it in a way that actually has positive user feedback, they just a:b test and look at viewer metrics until some method happens to stick a little better. No actual thought in the process, no intent or attempt to actually make a usable experience.
As the downward pitch of engagement increases, they'll put their hands in the air and go, "I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND IT!!" - as they never did to begin with.
How do you watch YouTube on mobile without ads? Do you just watch on mobile browser instead of using YT app? Is there some alternative front end app that includes adblock?
I don't use the app and disabled it. I watch via Firefox Mobile which has Ublock Origin. Also I run NextDNS, which I pay $2/month to, to block ads.
Similar set up on the desktop and laptop, though I also yt-dl a lot.
I also just, really hate video as a format for 99% of things. I MUCH prefer reading blogs and such. Most of my Youtube watching is concert videos. I love live music, even if its mediocre cell phone footage.
I've heard Firefox with Ublock Origin and Sponsorblock works well on Android. I've personally had frequent issues with Grayjay. But I haven't tried the above solution yet.
PipePipe is kind of like an RSS reader for YouTube. It's not going to give you algorithmic suggestions based on your viewing activity, but it will let you follow channels, and it doesn't show the ads.
It took me years to accept that mid video sponsor ads are just... a thing now, and it ultimately makes little sense for me to just give a blanket 'nope' to everyone who uses them...
We thought we could build a digital utopia, and laughed off 'the corpos will buy all of it' as fanciful cyberpunk doomer hysteria.
... well... turns out that wasn't hysteria.
Oh well. At least I can more easily conceptualize myself as something like 'down on his luck shadowrunner', rofl.
The old logic from the 90s still holds -> the more pernicious the ads, the less you should want to be there.
That it all got functionally digitally enclosed and normalized doesn't change that... you just gotta deal with the terror of knowing most people these days just literally are programmed by advertisements and algorithms.
I never see ads almoat anywhere, I have layers of blocking, PiHole, UBlock Origin, Ghostery, often use a VPN, NextDNS on the phone, a few other plug ins.
I've been using adguard dns on my phone for a few years but have noticed a lot more ads sneaking though on certain sites. Would you recommend next dns?
They also interrupt video at random times on web video. It is like web advertisers are unaware of the transition that existed on linear broadcast so the viewer can retain context. Web videos are so jarring they have the reverse effect.
I still dont understand why YouTube removed banner ads from on top of the video. The ones on the homepage and side feed, I can kind of understand. They want to show more videos to people faster. Sure. But the on-video banner ads were quite unobtrusive imo. Like I didn't even close them very often in the olden' days when I didn't use an adblocker all the time.
No they don't. Modern advertising isn't informing ppl of something thats available, it's emotionally manipulative con artistry. They love nothing more than shoving an ad in Yoru face at the moment it would be most manipulative. You don't have to make excuses for them. In fact, you should maybe, intentionally stop doing so.
Do you mean the website or app version? Because as far as I can tell the YouTube app is effectively a quarantine zone for ads. The only thing I know that works there is pressing the little info button on ads and blocking them one by one, but that gets annoying pretty much immediately.
Oooooh… yeah, I see what you mean. I don’t use the YouTube app for precisely that reason. That, and better playlist control through the website. I can accomplish everything I want from the website version of YouTube, which usually isn’t much when I’m just using my phone, and if I want anything more complicated, I usually have my MacBook Pro with me, so I just use that instead.
And that usually is just using AirPlay for videos to my Apple TV, and I certainly don’t use the YouTube app on that, again, because I can’t use ad block on the YouTube app on my Apple TV, which is why I AirPlay videos from my MacBook Pro. And that works great, because the YouTube website offers much better control in creating playlists. So I would probably be using the website on my Mac anyway just for that.
I guess it really comes down to my particular use case
You mean like a pi-hole? I use one of those and I love it. Ain’t no way I set up one of those for him. Then that’s another thing I have to support when it inevitably has problems.
I use nextDNS. You have to make an account, but the free tier has a ridiculous amount of ad blocks per month. Definitely enough for one or two machines.
Adaway on fdroid works pretty well. It's better if you have root access, but it functions fine as an adblocker without. I think it pretends to be a VPN service if you don't have root
TBF Firefox on Android is not as good as it could be, it can be frustrating when it doesn't load tabs sometimes or slows down to a crawl for no reason.
I still use it, but I can see why people might have bad experiences with it.
Cromite is buggy af from my experience and it's pretty out of date. Brave is the only remaining chromium option other than like DuckDuckGo, but it has its own big problems.
It's worse than average person. I don't even see tech-savy friends use adblockers nowadays. No idea why, I never asked.
And I feel like majority of people don't even know browser extensions exist, and those who do think it's all shady and malware, so they avoid those like plague.
I showed my wife the world of extensions like ad block and dark reader. Then she asked for some help one time and I saw she had some sort of tab grouping manager thing and had like a million tabs and was horrified of what I've done. I let her know there should be a setting that purges the browser when she closes it but she refused
Some people use tabs like bookmarks. I remember an ex telling me that Chrome takes 10+ seconds to launch on her phone. When I checked, she literally had 1000+ tabs opened. I kid you not, the tab count said :D like it basically gave up. My flabbers were gasted.
Yeah, I use uBlock lite on my work computer since i don't want to have to fight websites for hating FF. It works perfectly fine for your regular everday purposes.
There has been a few times when I showed people my ad-less internet. Their heads exploded! They went, "Oh dear internet fairy, show me your ways of serenity!" and I did. I installed adblockers on their devices. Each and every time they went "Thank the heavens, I've never known such comfort in my digital life before!"
AND THEN THEY JUST STOPPED USING THEM AFTER A WHILE????
Edit: Not my Mom though. My Mom looooves the adblocking.
My grandmother clicks on everything, constantly.. On her phone I tried setting her up with a DNS based ad blocker and it made it so her freemium games stopped working, the ones that give her 5+ minute ads every 15 minutes...
She refuses to use an adblocker because of it, but gets herself scammed out of money weekly due to these shitty malicious ads.
The average person uses whichever browser their OS came with. They won't go out of their way to get an adblocker, especially if they became desensitised to ads. They don't even know it could be better.
I once caught a reddit ban for sharing NSFW content even though the youtube video had none. I had to ask why and it turned out there was porn in the ads and apparently that was my fault.
This is what its like when I turn on the TV at someones house or at a hotel or something. I encounter TV ads so rarely (only commercial free streaming / downloaded content in our house) that its fucking jarring as hell to be watching something and then suddenly there are commercials.
I have this conversation with my wife. I installed a pi-hole on our network, works nearly perfectly, however every site thinks we have ad-blockers installed, and kind of we do I guess.
She got mad because all the sites she wants to read (she love celebrity drama) won't let her read any more, so she just uses cellular data instead of the home wi-fi. I don't know how she reads anything with all the ads everywhere.
One day I installed AdGuard on a Pi and routed my parent's traffic through it, effectively blocking ads. I thought they would love to live without ads but she asked me to remove it because the games she plays won't progress unless she watches ads.
I have a pi hole and my wife likes the Google shopping links that it blocks and my sister in law likes to play games with ads. I ended up just making a bypass list and putting their devices on them.
Heh, my dad wanted to use sites where he needed to have ad blocking disabled. I set his device up in adguard home to be ignored by all of the global blocking rules
I started with pihole and eventually switch to AdGuard home. Sucks for apps that "requires" an occasional ad, but 1 thing I still can't figure out is why Hulu won't work anymore.
But I feel you on the benefits and why I won't give one to my parents. These are people who took 2 months to realize my dad isn't on the family text group because he accidentally "left" the group, and why my mom's iPhone stopped ringing because she consciously used the physical mute switch on the side (buried beneath the phone case).
Your wife is the mentality that ensures we can't have nice things. Too many people are willing to be abused, exploited and manipulated just to get their cookie.
Every time I help a family member with tech support, I make sure to install ubo as an extra , even if it's unrelated to the problem. I've also started adding the bookmarklet kill sticky. Less clutter and ads means less attack vectors, which means less work for me.
Great idea for that bookmarklet, might start using it myself. I use Stylus a lot, so in the past I always just wrote my own CSS for unstickying sites I visited regularly, but this would be neat for those one-off occasions.
Edit: any advice for how to add the bookmarklet to Firefox on mobile? Can't drag the thing anywhere like the site says, and I can't seem to right click to copy the link
For decades, if I happen to hear ads playing on radio or something, i literally stick my fingers in my ears and go LALALALA until it stops or I have left.
You're not selling me SHIT today, I will never be part of your brainwashing scheme.
I feel like it’s turning into a genuine schism in our society. The “it’s fine, I just deal with it”s and the “I swear to fucking god I’ll burn it all down before I see/hear a single goddamn ad”s.
The Time Machine needs to be remade with this in mind.
The reason why ads are such a big business is because they work on everyone, even those who say they'll go out of their way to not use the brand they saw ads for.
Using a phone with no ad block is astonishing. You get taken to sites where ads, cookie consent forms, and other junk all compete to the point that there's no site left to look at. It's the days of pop up windows all over again.
Ive been using ironfox for some time, but recently noticed that vanadium is so much faster. Downloaded fennec, its much faster too. Dunno whats going on with ironfox, but i guess im gonna go back to fennec
When I have to go off my network because some website won't load because I am blocking their trackers I get sick from the AI ads, its gross. Truth in advertising is dead so so dead. They are not even trying to make products look real anymore.
I won't allow list the things the site needs, I would rather just go on mobile for a min. I wish I could set DNS settings per browser so I could spin up a lighter adblock that will allow the sites I have to rarely access and then just have a dedicated browser for.
In Firefox, under privacy settings, activate DNS over HTTPS (DoH). The default DNS (CloudFlare) should work, but I prefer the custom setting https://dns.quad9.net/dns-query
In firefox, I think it would be in the DNS-over-HTTPS settings or a separate setting if you disable DNS-over-HTTPS. I thought it was a normal setting for all browsers, but I guess that's changed recently.
You can always use forks like waterfox, librewolf, zen, etc for having separate settings.
I had this experience at work last year. I shared some article that was relevant to work and half the people complained that it had a full page ad they couldn’t dismiss. The other half of us used Adblock, apparently.
I set up firefox and ublock for my inlaws, but they only use edge.
They like to read some rag newspaper website and the difference is STAGGERING, the ads it has everywhere, I can't describe it. They always use edge, on purpose. Deliberately.
My mom is the same, she uses Firefox but I was hesitant to add ublock because if it break something she would have no idea on how to fix it. So I installed Librewolf and changed so it remembers login to make it simpler for her, she never uses it. I think she is so used to the ads that she believes something is wrong when the ads are no longer there.
This is me and my wife. She showed me a video on her phone the other day and it started with two ads. I didn't really comprehend that they were ads and asked her why I was watching some weird Dominos meme. 🤷
Same experience when I try to watch TV with commercials after 20 years of cable. Can't even get through a sitcom. Hard to believe I grew up with that shit drilling into my brain every 5 minutes.
I've been using ad block for years and was so confused when I went to watch the Rick and Morty marathon on Adult Swim. I had no idea it showed ads during the "intermission". I immediately muted it, tried to figure out why ad block wasn't working and questioned how anyone could put up with it.
Coming from a guy who watched infomercials as a kid, I could recite them from memory, living ad free for almost 20 years makes ads nauseating to me.
Now that Vivaldi finally has to let go of Manifest v2 (fuck you, Google!) gave their builtin ad blocker a chance. It seems to work fine for most things, except YouTube shorts. I occasionally scroll through those and basically every second video is an ad that would have been blocked by uBlock Origin. How can people tolerate that?
I guess if that happens to other websites, I really need to figure out which Firefox fork best matches the things I liked about Vivaldi (websites in sidebar, workspaces/tab groups, good performance, no AI bullshit)
AFAIK Firefox forks aren't too different from Firefox feature-wise. It's hard to make substantive changes to Firefox, so most forks like Librewolf or Waterfox slightly change default settings and extensions, but not sidebars and other cosmetics.
So unfortunately, there is probably no Firefox browser that would have Vivaldi's features.
Maybe you could try uBlock Origin Lite? It's Manifest v3 compliant, and I don't remember having any issues with YouTube shorts using it. I use it on "optimal" filtering mode
Thanks but that's not what I'm looking for. I have my tabs on top. What Vivaldi has is an additional sidebar that lets you display arbitrary websites inside that sidebar while the active tab from the main tab bar still takes up most of the browser window.
I find that quite useful for stuff like a feed reader, notes or a password manager. For a while I also had mastodon in the sidebar but found it too distracting. Basically every website with proper responsive design works.
firefox with vertical tabs on and ai killswitch on has all those features
you can also try ungoogled chromium where you can still install ublock, they give you a tutorial link on first launch
although idk if it cando vertical tabs
I use FF Ultima, it's all the modern polished things i liked about zen with none of the perceived downsides and highly customisable, even supports the new side by side Tab Feature Firefox added recently.
This has been the cleanest browser experience i've had as of today when paired with sideberry, ublock, clean-urls and decentraleyes
in addition to what not_IO said, depending on your needs Firefox has tab groups, containers for isolating cookies, and fully separate profiles for when you need different addons, bookmarks and browsing history
And then they blame the IT department for their slow computer, or request a new one. Or put one in the fridge to cool it off—I'm not kidding.
I love humans in their creative endeavours, but once they start taking life/work too seriously, or the opposite, have no moral backbone, then god I hate their dung-brained behaviour.
I install it when they are, and explain why, and how to temporarily turn it off if it breaks a website. Spreading the idea plus uBlock Origin is way more impactful than just uBlock Origin.
On the other hand, we should be thankful for the masses. If most people used adblockers that shit would get choke slammed off the Internet so hard our heads would spin. It's only because like 10% people use it that it stays under the radar.
Not just ads but there's a ton of malicious ads out there. Scareware that you don't have to even click and your computer is now "infected" with a "virus" and you have to call some shitbag to just turn off the notifications for money.
I once explained to a sixty-something-year-old that she could use firefox+uBO instead of paying for youtube red or whatever the hell it's called
Course, then I had to try to explain the concept of browser extensions and I'm not sure she got it
my work laptop didn't come with an adblocker for some reason unfathomable to me. the first time I realized there were ads on, like, everything was certainly humbling.
Advertisers know this which is why they use sponsored content and LLMs to post on social media.
You might think you've not seen ads but you have. They are not always as blatant as the pop ups of old. Things like 'news articles' from reputable organizations that were paid to write. Things like posts on Reddit that might not promote a product directly but always make sure it's part of the conversation.
Seriously? What kind of virus infested bullshit are your idiot friends using? I have never gotten a single pop up from any reputable website. Aside from being a moron who clicks obviously fake links giving themselves viruses, the only time you'll get pop ups is if you're using an illegal site.
So I have to wonder what kind of shady shit you're doing that you need an ad blocker for every single website you use?
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AmyAye@nord.pub · 196 pts · 50d
Oh yeah, its so wild when you see it.
Like, I forgot Youtube even has ads.
And just to throw out therr, I get it, people need to make money, I am not against advertising, but fuck the ads are SOOOOO MANY and all come off as SOOOOOO scammy.
If you are showing me an ad online, I assume you and the product are just trying to rip me off and whatever is being promoted is a scam. If it was just "Hey, McDonalds has McRibs" in a little banner, ok fine, whatever. But its all this wild cheap garbage from weird fucking bull shit websites. What happened to actually having a sales person vet this shit?
cb900f_bodhi@fedinsfw.app · 73 pts · 50d
Same here. A buddy of mine was listening to YT Music on a speaker when an infomercial length ad started talking (uh, I mean, lying) about all the how and why the United States has the best healthcare system in the world and there's no good reason to change any of it.
My head almost exploded. What. The. Fuck.
Zephorah@discuss.online · 30 pts · 50d
The ads on some podcasts, like anything NYT, are shockingly conservative lately.
WalrusDragonOnABike@reddthat.com · 24 pts · 50d
A lot of ads just seem like AI advertising made-up products that don't exist, gambling, or payday loans. Or sometimes totally normal things like a local college.
xylol@leminal.space · 9 pts · 50d
Normal college that makes you take out loans, or worse, sketchy technical schools that promise they'll help you find a job if you just sign up for a 20k loan
WalrusDragonOnABike@reddthat.com · 8 pts · 50d
Surprisingly just the local community college that's been around for decades. ~$1000/semester for full-time in-district residents or ~$1600/semester for in-state but out-of-district). Not sure why they're doing ads like they're a scam, unless there's been some changes such that they are.
amio@lemmy.world · 41 pts · 50d
"Optimized" away as fast as possible, you can safely bet.
dustyData@lemmy.world · 34 pts · 50d
It all went to shit when advertisers realized that they don't actually have to sell anything. The ad is the product. That's why so much advertisement is a scam now. Regulation is so far behind the problems of the internet it is ridiculous. Some companies entire business model is to put out ads, then funnel the data straight to data brokers. The products aren't real, they just have to get prints, eyes and occasional curiosity or accidental clicks, and they make a margin over it. It is madness.
gegil@sopuli.xyz · 11 pts · 50d
I realised this myself when i had to watch some youtube video in a browser without adblock. There was literal porn as an ad. The second of two was some hentai game, but at least it was half blurred. I have no idea who used that browser to get those targeted ads, it was a shared computer.
Saledovil@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 50d
Even the companies displaying the ads can't always tell why a particular ad was displayed to a particular person.
AmyAye@nord.pub · 2 pts · 50d
Thats the thing.
They used to know.
Because instead of shitty algorythms, some sales person would go out and be lke "hey Ford, want to advertise on our car website?"
starik@lemmy.today · 10 pts · 50d
You don’t immediately want to click on an AI image of a toe infection, or fingers holding some weirdly anatomical exotic fruit?
AmyAye@nord.pub · 2 pts · 50d
I have no idea what you are even talking about because I basically never see ads anywhere.
starik@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 50d
You’re not missing much.
Zos_Kia@jlai.lu · 9 pts · 50d
I'm always surprised when a band mate wants to share a song with me and they whip up their phone and absolutely tolerate 45s of ads before the music starts
AmyAye@nord.pub · 3 pts · 50d
Oh yeah, and Spotify pays artist garbage. Its best to buy direct from their website or Bandcamp (on Bandcamp Fridays).
Though Bandcamp is starting to get enshitified.
bigchungus@piefed.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 50d
What's going on with Bandcamp?
AmyAye@nord.pub · 2 pts · 49d
I want to say they recently laid off a bunch of people for AI coding despite pushing against AI music. Plus their owners are kind of increasingly Vulture Capitalisty.
I can't find it at theoment but Insaw something on reddit and lined up a list of alternatices but of course, the alternative suggestions are even more smaller and niche.
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 7 pts · 50d
That costs money. Why would they do that when it turns out that they don't actually have to?
AmyAye@nord.pub · 1 pts · 50d
Because in the end they are not even selling anything except accidental clicks at the expense of alienating their userbase and destroying any trust.
SalmonTractor@discuss.tchncs.de · 1 pts · 49d
True that. Rather than do it in a way that actually has positive user feedback, they just a:b test and look at viewer metrics until some method happens to stick a little better. No actual thought in the process, no intent or attempt to actually make a usable experience.
As the downward pitch of engagement increases, they'll put their hands in the air and go, "I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND IT!!" - as they never did to begin with.
Yondoza@sh.itjust.works · 7 pts · 50d
How do you watch YouTube on mobile without ads? Do you just watch on mobile browser instead of using YT app? Is there some alternative front end app that includes adblock?
kazerniel@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 50d
I watch Youtube in my Firefox Android with uBlock Origin, zero ads 👌
Life_inst_bad@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 50d
So for Android there's for example Grayjaj (available on Playstore or https://grayjay.app/ ) or how about Newpipe ( https://newpipe.net/ )
For IOS I have no Idea but how about firefox with UBlock origin
TexasDrunk@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 50d
Brave browser on iOS will do it. Orion probably will as well.
Newpipe has been pretty great for me on Android.
Carrot@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 50d
+1 for grayjay, works really well for me
AmyAye@nord.pub · 3 pts · 50d
I don't use the app and disabled it. I watch via Firefox Mobile which has Ublock Origin. Also I run NextDNS, which I pay $2/month to, to block ads.
Similar set up on the desktop and laptop, though I also yt-dl a lot.
I also just, really hate video as a format for 99% of things. I MUCH prefer reading blogs and such. Most of my Youtube watching is concert videos. I love live music, even if its mediocre cell phone footage.
Wakmrow@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 50d
Brave blocks it automatically. Easy.
I don't want to get in a debate about brave.
mholiv@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 50d
I mean it’s the same with any other browsers with ad blockers on mobile platforms.
Firefox on Android and Orion on IOS both let you use ublock origin.
No need to use crypto bro ad company browser.
Brave users are in a cult. I swear to god.
Wakmrow@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 50d
I'm not, I just really don't care that much.
mholiv@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 50d
I mean you care enough to mention it randomly. 🤷♀️
Wakmrow@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 50d
What? No I just know everyone wants to have a big discussion about brave or Firefox. I don't particularly care. Brave blocks it out of the box.
mholiv@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 50d
No one was talking about crypto bro ad company brave (or Firefox) till you brought it up randomly.
edible_funk@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 50d
Then just watch YouTube with ads or pay for premium.
cb900f_bodhi@fedinsfw.app · 2 pts · 50d
I've heard Firefox with Ublock Origin and Sponsorblock works well on Android. I've personally had frequent issues with Grayjay. But I haven't tried the above solution yet.
slemptastrophe@piefed.social · 2 pts · 50d
https://f-droid.org/packages/InfinityLoop1309.NewPipeEnhanced
PipePipe is kind of like an RSS reader for YouTube. It's not going to give you algorithmic suggestions based on your viewing activity, but it will let you follow channels, and it doesn't show the ads.
slemptastrophe@piefed.social · 1 pts · 50d
Also, if you find that it's not working suddenly one day, it probably just needs to be updated.
arin@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 50d
Yes the app is cancer
sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 5 pts · 50d
It took me years to accept that mid video sponsor ads are just... a thing now, and it ultimately makes little sense for me to just give a blanket 'nope' to everyone who uses them...
We thought we could build a digital utopia, and laughed off 'the corpos will buy all of it' as fanciful cyberpunk doomer hysteria.
... well... turns out that wasn't hysteria.
Oh well. At least I can more easily conceptualize myself as something like 'down on his luck shadowrunner', rofl.
The old logic from the 90s still holds -> the more pernicious the ads, the less you should want to be there.
That it all got functionally digitally enclosed and normalized doesn't change that... you just gotta deal with the terror of knowing most people these days just literally are programmed by advertisements and algorithms.
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 10 pts · 50d
Sponsorblock
CADmonkey@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 50d
+1 for Sponsorblock
AmyAye@nord.pub · 4 pts · 50d
I never see ads almoat anywhere, I have layers of blocking, PiHole, UBlock Origin, Ghostery, often use a VPN, NextDNS on the phone, a few other plug ins.
Rug_Pisser@piefed.zip · 1 pts · 50d
I've been using adguard dns on my phone for a few years but have noticed a lot more ads sneaking though on certain sites. Would you recommend next dns?
AmyAye@nord.pub · 2 pts · 49d
I have had good luck with it and there is a pretty generous free tier I think if you want to try it.
SalmonTractor@discuss.tchncs.de · 4 pts · 50d
They also interrupt video at random times on web video. It is like web advertisers are unaware of the transition that existed on linear broadcast so the viewer can retain context. Web videos are so jarring they have the reverse effect.
hardcoreufo@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 50d
I would pay for an app to tell me the nearest McDonalds that had McRibs.
MrKoyun@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 50d
I still dont understand why YouTube removed banner ads from on top of the video. The ones on the homepage and side feed, I can kind of understand. They want to show more videos to people faster. Sure. But the on-video banner ads were quite unobtrusive imo. Like I didn't even close them very often in the olden' days when I didn't use an adblocker all the time.
SethTaylor@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 50d
Excuse me, are you insinuating Tai Chi Walking is a scam?
minorkeys@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 49d
No they don't. Modern advertising isn't informing ppl of something thats available, it's emotionally manipulative con artistry. They love nothing more than shoving an ad in Yoru face at the moment it would be most manipulative. You don't have to make excuses for them. In fact, you should maybe, intentionally stop doing so.
lokalhorst@feddit.org · 88 pts · 50d
Wait, does the average person not use an ad blocker? Like am I within the 40%? 30%? i have really no idea
moonlight@fedia.io · 102 pts · 50d
From a quick search it seems like it's under 30%. Crazy.
kopasz7@sh.itjust.works · 53 pts · 50d
Crazy how many people are raw-dogging digital sewage.
LemmyPlaceDN@europe.pub · 17 pts · 50d
More like getting raw-dogged by it...
binux@sh.itjust.works · 8 pts · 50d
It’s an ouroboros of shit-fuck, really. People just going down on themselves unto perpetuity.
PP_BOY_@lemmy.world · 22 pts · 50d
Crazy, but understandable when you realize how many people use iPhone mobile apps for 100% of their web browsing
BartyDeCanter@piefed.social · 14 pts · 50d
I mean, there are reasonably effective adblocks for iOS available.
homes@piefed.world · 10 pts · 50d
ublock origin light even blocks YouTube ads. It’s perfect.
Before that, there were plenty of other ad blockers for iPhone.
I haven’t seen an ad in well over 15 years (except for when I was setting up a new device)
binux@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 50d
Do you mean the website or app version? Because as far as I can tell the YouTube app is effectively a quarantine zone for ads. The only thing I know that works there is pressing the little info button on ads and blocking them one by one, but that gets annoying pretty much immediately.
homes@piefed.world · 2 pts · 50d
Oooooh… yeah, I see what you mean. I don’t use the YouTube app for precisely that reason. That, and better playlist control through the website. I can accomplish everything I want from the website version of YouTube, which usually isn’t much when I’m just using my phone, and if I want anything more complicated, I usually have my MacBook Pro with me, so I just use that instead.
And that usually is just using AirPlay for videos to my Apple TV, and I certainly don’t use the YouTube app on that, again, because I can’t use ad block on the YouTube app on my Apple TV, which is why I AirPlay videos from my MacBook Pro. And that works great, because the YouTube website offers much better control in creating playlists. So I would probably be using the website on my Mac anyway just for that.
I guess it really comes down to my particular use case
baggachipz@sh.itjust.works · 36 pts · 50d
My dad browsing on his tablet, shows me a page. “Ahhhh, my eyes! You need an ad blocker!”
“Ok give me one”
“You’d have to use firefox”
“Never mind then, I want chrome”
Then continue drowning in ads and tracking, chucklefuck.
chuckleslord@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 50d
Set him up with a DNS blocker. It's browser independent and can also be used on mobile.
baggachipz@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 50d
You mean like a pi-hole? I use one of those and I love it. Ain’t no way I set up one of those for him. Then that’s another thing I have to support when it inevitably has problems.
chuckleslord@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 50d
Not a pi-hole. DNS name resolver can be set by system. You just need to use some sort of blocker that is maintained by someone else for the namespace
baggachipz@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 50d
Any suggestions?
xtools@programming.dev · 2 pts · 50d
check out this list: https://publicdns.info/best-adblocking.html
using the adguard dns is probably easiest, fire and forget. nextdns gives you more settings and controls.
on android you can e.g. drop "dns.adguard-dns.com" in the "private dns" setting and you're good, system-wide
chuckleslord@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 50d
I use nextDNS. You have to make an account, but the free tier has a ridiculous amount of ad blocks per month. Definitely enough for one or two machines.
Brown5500@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 50d
Adaway on fdroid works pretty well. It's better if you have root access, but it functions fine as an adblocker without. I think it pretends to be a VPN service if you don't have root
https://f-droid.org/packages/org.adaway/
baggachipz@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 50d
Ehhh… this is my dad’s Samsung tablet. F-droid is a nonstarter for a boomer.
MangoPenguin@piefed.social · 3 pts · 50d
TBF Firefox on Android is not as good as it could be, it can be frustrating when it doesn't load tabs sometimes or slows down to a crawl for no reason.
I still use it, but I can see why people might have bad experiences with it.
13igTyme@piefed.social · 6 pts · 50d
I don't have an issue with it. I'm also using privacy badger and noscript
MrKoyun@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 50d
Yeah... As a Firefox user on android, Firefox on android isnt very good :/
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 50d
it only did that when on reddit, i think reddit does intentionally to force you to use the app.
SexualPolytope@lemmy.sdf.org · 1 pts · 50d
Firefox on Android kinda sucks. Hook him up with Cromite.
can@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 50d
Does it? I haven't tried anything else in years.
llmbot@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 50d
Cromite is buggy af from my experience and it's pretty out of date. Brave is the only remaining chromium option other than like DuckDuckGo, but it has its own big problems.
The browser situation on Android is screwed
late_pessimistic@slrpnk.net · 27 pts · 50d
It's worse than average person. I don't even see tech-savy friends use adblockers nowadays. No idea why, I never asked.
And I feel like majority of people don't even know browser extensions exist, and those who do think it's all shady and malware, so they avoid those like plague.
xylol@leminal.space · 8 pts · 50d
I showed my wife the world of extensions like ad block and dark reader. Then she asked for some help one time and I saw she had some sort of tab grouping manager thing and had like a million tabs and was horrified of what I've done. I let her know there should be a setting that purges the browser when she closes it but she refused
SexualPolytope@lemmy.sdf.org · 13 pts · 50d
Some people use tabs like bookmarks. I remember an ex telling me that Chrome takes 10+ seconds to launch on her phone. When I checked, she literally had 1000+ tabs opened. I kid you not, the tab count said
:Dlike it basically gave up. My flabbers were gasted.can@sh.itjust.works · 7 pts · 50d
If you do that in incognito it shows a
;)instead.MrKoyun@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 50d
The
:Dmight be my favourite feature of Chrom-ium on Android. It's so whimsical!Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 50d
did you tell her that there bookmarks for a browser.
SexualPolytope@lemmy.sdf.org · 1 pts · 50d
ryathal@sh.itjust.works · 12 pts · 50d
Chrome doesn't really have an ad blocker anymore. Firefox + unlock origin is a different level than chrome users can even access.
not_IO@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 6 pts · 50d
well ublock lite is surprisingly helpful
Naho_Zako@piefed.zip · 2 pts · 50d
Yeah, I use uBlock lite on my work computer since i don't want to have to fight websites for hating FF. It works perfectly fine for your regular everday purposes.
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 9 pts · 50d
It's literal madness.
No wonder nobody's fucking brains work anymore
MrKoyun@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 50d
There has been a few times when I showed people my ad-less internet. Their heads exploded! They went, "Oh dear internet fairy, show me your ways of serenity!" and I did. I installed adblockers on their devices. Each and every time they went "Thank the heavens, I've never known such comfort in my digital life before!"
AND THEN THEY JUST STOPPED USING THEM AFTER A WHILE????
Edit: Not my Mom though. My Mom looooves the adblocking.
Lycist@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 50d
My grandmother clicks on everything, constantly.. On her phone I tried setting her up with a DNS based ad blocker and it made it so her freemium games stopped working, the ones that give her 5+ minute ads every 15 minutes...
She refuses to use an adblocker because of it, but gets herself scammed out of money weekly due to these shitty malicious ads.
BeMoreCareful@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 50d
I recently had an opportunity where I could have put a 79 year old lady on the internet.
Then I remembered that she once told me how she was waiting for money from like publisher's clearing house or something.
Then I remembered that bulk of the internet, as a whole, is kinda shit..
kazerniel@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 50d
The average person uses whichever browser their OS came with. They won't go out of their way to get an adblocker, especially if they became desensitised to ads. They don't even know it could be better.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 50d
very little have adblock on, plus alot of them likely uses apps on thier phones. and i think men use adblocks more than thier counterparts.
MutantTailThing@lemmy.world · 50 pts · 50d
I once caught a reddit ban for sharing NSFW content even though the youtube video had none. I had to ask why and it turned out there was porn in the ads and apparently that was my fault.
Flagstaff@programming.dev · 17 pts · 50d
Wow, that's... kind of impressively sophisticated for the system to pick up on that.
But wait, aren't the ads account-tailored?
minorkeys@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 49d
Sure, If male = true, show porn ad.
UnspecificGravity@piefed.social · 47 pts · 50d
This is what its like when I turn on the TV at someones house or at a hotel or something. I encounter TV ads so rarely (only commercial free streaming / downloaded content in our house) that its fucking jarring as hell to be watching something and then suddenly there are commercials.
Th3D3k0y@lemmy.world · 46 pts · 50d
I have this conversation with my wife. I installed a pi-hole on our network, works nearly perfectly, however every site thinks we have ad-blockers installed, and kind of we do I guess.
She got mad because all the sites she wants to read (she love celebrity drama) won't let her read any more, so she just uses cellular data instead of the home wi-fi. I don't know how she reads anything with all the ads everywhere.
pedz@lemmy.ca · 39 pts · 50d
One day I installed AdGuard on a Pi and routed my parent's traffic through it, effectively blocking ads. I thought they would love to live without ads but she asked me to remove it because the games she plays won't progress unless she watches ads.
_spiffy@piefed.ca · 17 pts · 50d
I have a pi hole and my wife likes the Google shopping links that it blocks and my sister in law likes to play games with ads. I ended up just making a bypass list and putting their devices on them.
elvith@feddit.org · 8 pts · 50d
Same for me. I have a group called
noblockon my pihole. If someone complains, I go and add their device to it. I have given up arguing with people...Tyrq@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 50d
You know, if the people who go out of their way for ads make it so the people who won't don't make such a huge target, I'll take it.
Th3D3k0y@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 50d
Sounds like I will be working on next
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 50d
these people addicted to those freenium ad games.
BartyDeCanter@piefed.social · 7 pts · 50d
oh god, same here. I have Pi-Hole set up with a two layer system so it blocks less for my partner’s phone and laptop and more for everything else.
0x0@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 5 pts · 50d
Couldn't you just change her phone's DNS settings to circumvent the adblocker? Then she could still use the WiFi.
Th3D3k0y@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 50d
Lets call it a combination of "not tech savvy enough" and "it did what I needed and she had a bypass, and I put 0 thought into it after"
Ioughttamow@fedia.io · 4 pts · 50d
Heh, my dad wanted to use sites where he needed to have ad blocking disabled. I set his device up in adguard home to be ignored by all of the global blocking rules
Thebeardedsinglemalt@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 50d
I started with pihole and eventually switch to AdGuard home. Sucks for apps that "requires" an occasional ad, but 1 thing I still can't figure out is why Hulu won't work anymore.
But I feel you on the benefits and why I won't give one to my parents. These are people who took 2 months to realize my dad isn't on the family text group because he accidentally "left" the group, and why my mom's iPhone stopped ringing because she consciously used the physical mute switch on the side (buried beneath the phone case).
minorkeys@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 49d
Your wife is the mentality that ensures we can't have nice things. Too many people are willing to be abused, exploited and manipulated just to get their cookie.
rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 38 pts · 50d
Every time I help a family member with tech support, I make sure to install ubo as an extra , even if it's unrelated to the problem. I've also started adding the bookmarklet kill sticky. Less clutter and ads means less attack vectors, which means less work for me.
Ioughttamow@fedia.io · 13 pts · 50d
Nice, didn’t know about kill sticky
kazerniel@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 50d
Great idea for that bookmarklet, might start using it myself. I use Stylus a lot, so in the past I always just wrote my own CSS for unstickying sites I visited regularly, but this would be neat for those one-off occasions.
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 50d
Hey thanks, never heard of this
Edit: any advice for how to add the bookmarklet to Firefox on mobile? Can't drag the thing anywhere like the site says, and I can't seem to right click to copy the link
kazerniel@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 50d
Not the same feature, but I sometimes use reader view in Firefox desktop and mobile to remove annoying site elements from around articles.
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 49d
Yeah reader mode is clutch. It often gets around article paywalls too
ReHomed@lemmy.cafe · 33 pts · 50d
I'm surprised people are capable of tolerating the shit it's fucking awful
anarchy79@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 50d
For decades, if I happen to hear ads playing on radio or something, i literally stick my fingers in my ears and go LALALALA until it stops or I have left.
You're not selling me SHIT today, I will never be part of your brainwashing scheme.
I am willing to die on that hill so help me god.
canthangmightstain@lemmy.today · 8 pts · 50d
I feel like it’s turning into a genuine schism in our society. The “it’s fine, I just deal with it”s and the “I swear to fucking god I’ll burn it all down before I see/hear a single goddamn ad”s.
The Time Machine needs to be remade with this in mind.
HerbGrower@slrpnk.net · 6 pts · 50d
I just switch it off. If its not my device my interest in what ever was on immediately shuts down and I go do something else.
Like a comedy show is on the TV at a relatives house and I walk by, its entertaining and I sit down to watch with them. Oh adverts, off I go then.
Flagstaff@programming.dev · 4 pts · 50d
I take the remote and mute the ad for its duration.
fakeman_pretendname@feddit.uk · 4 pts · 50d
I listen to or see and enjoy the adverts, then I don't buy their products. They spent that money advertising at me, and get nothing.
Do you know how many car adverts I've seen on TV in my life? Hundreds.
I can't even drive.
"Sticking it to the man"
DV8@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 50d
The reason why ads are such a big business is because they work on everyone, even those who say they'll go out of their way to not use the brand they saw ads for.
Tenderizer@aussie.zone · 1 pts · 49d
I think the ads on TV can be an important cultural touchstone.
Blackmist@feddit.uk · 27 pts · 50d
Using a phone with no ad block is astonishing. You get taken to sites where ads, cookie consent forms, and other junk all compete to the point that there's no site left to look at. It's the days of pop up windows all over again.
Nalivai@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 50d
Firefox for phones supports adblock btw.
NotEasyBeingGreen@slrpnk.net · 5 pts · 50d
I use uBlock Origin, Privacy Badger, and Consent-o-Matic with the Firefox browser on my phone.
potpotato@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 50d
For Android. FF Focus for iOS can do some ad blocking, but standard is still limited being WebKit.
I get the flack Brave gets, and I wouldn’t touch it on desktop, but I’ve struggled to find a better option on iPhone.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 50d
ive been solely using that. ironfox with ddg is kinda janky with the browser, so i had to use FF.
Sidyctism2@discuss.tchncs.de · 1 pts · 50d
Ive been using ironfox for some time, but recently noticed that vanadium is so much faster. Downloaded fennec, its much faster too. Dunno whats going on with ironfox, but i guess im gonna go back to fennec
Blackmist@feddit.uk · 2 pts · 50d
I know, it's the only way I can use my phone these days.
ThePantser@sh.itjust.works · 27 pts · 50d
When I have to go off my network because some website won't load because I am blocking their trackers I get sick from the AI ads, its gross. Truth in advertising is dead so so dead. They are not even trying to make products look real anymore.
I won't allow list the things the site needs, I would rather just go on mobile for a min. I wish I could set DNS settings per browser so I could spin up a lighter adblock that will allow the sites I have to rarely access and then just have a dedicated browser for.
a14o@feddit.org · 8 pts · 50d
This is extremely achievable
ThePantser@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 50d
What browser? Or do I need to do split tunneling per app in VPN settings?
a14o@feddit.org · 4 pts · 50d
In Firefox, under privacy settings, activate DNS over HTTPS (DoH). The default DNS (CloudFlare) should work, but I prefer the custom setting
https://dns.quad9.net/dns-queryIthral@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 50d
Prtty sure it's burried in the settings for bith firefox and chrome
WalrusDragonOnABike@reddthat.com · 1 pts · 50d
In firefox, I think it would be in the DNS-over-HTTPS settings or a separate setting if you disable DNS-over-HTTPS. I thought it was a normal setting for all browsers, but I guess that's changed recently.
You can always use forks like waterfox, librewolf, zen, etc for having separate settings.
BartyDeCanter@piefed.social · 25 pts · 50d
I had this experience at work last year. I shared some article that was relevant to work and half the people complained that it had a full page ad they couldn’t dismiss. The other half of us used Adblock, apparently.
InFerNo@lemmy.ml · 24 pts · 50d
I set up firefox and ublock for my inlaws, but they only use edge.
They like to read some rag newspaper website and the difference is STAGGERING, the ads it has everywhere, I can't describe it. They always use edge, on purpose. Deliberately.
Kjell@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 50d
My mom is the same, she uses Firefox but I was hesitant to add ublock because if it break something she would have no idea on how to fix it. So I installed Librewolf and changed so it remembers login to make it simpler for her, she never uses it. I think she is so used to the ads that she believes something is wrong when the ads are no longer there.
Tenderizer@aussie.zone · 1 pts · 49d
Change to Mullvad or Adguard DNS. It's not perfect, but doesn't require manifest V2 so it works well even on edge.
That said it's even harder to fix issues caused by DNS-level adblocking than an extension so consider at your own risk.
rounding_error@lemmy.today · 21 pts · 50d
I imagine that if you walk around barefoot enough then the random weeds stop consciously bothering you
CADmonkey@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 50d
But what about the broken glass, lego bricks, jellyfish, brightly colored posionous creatures, and literal feces?
silasmariner@programming.dev · 6 pts · 50d
The brightly coloured poisonous creatures aren't the problem, it's the dull brown ones...
anarchy79@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 50d
When the average internet user encounters those they die.
LovableSidekick@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 50d
I don't mind rough ground under my bare feet, what gets me is floor grit.
tyr0sine@mander.xyz · 4 pts · 50d
Yes, on hardwood or tile, ugh.
anarchy79@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 50d
That's why I use indoor gravel floors.
lohky@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 50d
This is me and my wife. She showed me a video on her phone the other day and it started with two ads. I didn't really comprehend that they were ads and asked her why I was watching some weird Dominos meme. 🤷
Artemis_Mystique@lemmy.ml · 15 pts · 50d
good spouses don't let their SO suffer ADs
HerbGrower@slrpnk.net · 4 pts · 50d
I downloaded audio files and VLC to make a playlist so my partner doesn't have to listen to ads when out for a run.
SpatchyIsOnline@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 50d
It might be time to introduce them to Navidrome :)
lohky@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 49d
I've offered so many times to get ReVanced set up for her and she just doesn't care at all lol.
Tempus_Fugit@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 50d
I literally had this thought yesterday. I'm so glad I know how to use technology. I have no idea how folks raw dog the internet today.
LovableSidekick@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 50d
Same experience when I try to watch TV with commercials after 20 years of cable. Can't even get through a sitcom. Hard to believe I grew up with that shit drilling into my brain every 5 minutes.
village604@adultswim.fan · 7 pts · 50d
It wasn't every 5 minutes back in the day. Ad time slowly ate into show time over the years.
LovableSidekick@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 50d
True, when I was a kid the ads were about 7 minutes apart.
VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 50d
I once had an ad break so long I plain forgot what I was watching.
Prox@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 50d
If I ever get hit with a break longer than 2:30 I just nope out.
anarchy79@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 50d
If I'm hit with a break >0 I'm out.
Snailpope@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 50d
I've been using ad block for years and was so confused when I went to watch the Rick and Morty marathon on Adult Swim. I had no idea it showed ads during the "intermission". I immediately muted it, tried to figure out why ad block wasn't working and questioned how anyone could put up with it.
Coming from a guy who watched infomercials as a kid, I could recite them from memory, living ad free for almost 20 years makes ads nauseating to me.
dfyx@lemmy.helios42.de · 12 pts · 50d
Now that Vivaldi finally has to let go of Manifest v2 (fuck you, Google!) gave their builtin ad blocker a chance. It seems to work fine for most things, except YouTube shorts. I occasionally scroll through those and basically every second video is an ad that would have been blocked by uBlock Origin. How can people tolerate that?
I guess if that happens to other websites, I really need to figure out which Firefox fork best matches the things I liked about Vivaldi (websites in sidebar, workspaces/tab groups, good performance, no AI bullshit)
late_pessimistic@slrpnk.net · 9 pts · 50d
AFAIK Firefox forks aren't too different from Firefox feature-wise. It's hard to make substantive changes to Firefox, so most forks like Librewolf or Waterfox slightly change default settings and extensions, but not sidebars and other cosmetics.
So unfortunately, there is probably no Firefox browser that would have Vivaldi's features.
Maybe you could try uBlock Origin Lite? It's Manifest v3 compliant, and I don't remember having any issues with YouTube shorts using it. I use it on "optimal" filtering mode
JayGray91@piefed.social · 5 pts · 50d
Actually, zen browser has by default tab side bars. They change quite a bit.
They have workspaces that can default to open certain containers that makes use of Mozilla's multi container add-on.
Have a look at zen browser @dfyx@lemmy.helios42.de
dfyx@lemmy.helios42.de · 3 pts · 50d
Thanks but that's not what I'm looking for. I have my tabs on top. What Vivaldi has is an additional sidebar that lets you display arbitrary websites inside that sidebar while the active tab from the main tab bar still takes up most of the browser window.
I find that quite useful for stuff like a feed reader, notes or a password manager. For a while I also had mastodon in the sidebar but found it too distracting. Basically every website with proper responsive design works.
JayGray91@piefed.social · 4 pts · 50d
Oh, my bad, I misunderstood. It's been a long while since I used Vivaldi.
not_IO@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 6 pts · 50d
firefox with vertical tabs on and ai killswitch on has all those features
you can also try ungoogled chromium where you can still install ublock, they give you a tutorial link on first launch although idk if it cando vertical tabs
Starchildjohn@leminal.space · 4 pts · 50d
I use FF Ultima, it's all the modern polished things i liked about zen with none of the perceived downsides and highly customisable, even supports the new side by side Tab Feature Firefox added recently.
This has been the cleanest browser experience i've had as of today when paired with sideberry, ublock, clean-urls and decentraleyes
altkey@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 50d
Or Helium (Ungoogled Chrome + uBlock + some changes from other chromium based browsers): https://github.com/imputnet/helium
It can do vertical tabs by setting Browser Layout to Vertical in settings\appearance. Tabs can be manually grouped. It also has split view.
Currently in beta, but for some minor tasks that needed exactly chromium I downloaded it and it worked.
kazerniel@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 50d
in addition to what not_IO said, depending on your needs Firefox has tab groups, containers for isolating cookies, and fully separate profiles for when you need different addons, bookmarks and browsing history
arsCynic@piefed.social · 10 pts · 50d
And then they blame the IT department for their slow computer, or request a new one. Or put one in the fridge to cool it off—I'm not kidding.
I love humans in their creative endeavours, but once they start taking life/work too seriously, or the opposite, have no moral backbone, then god I hate their dung-brained behaviour.
anarchy79@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 50d
I install uBlock origin for them when they aren't looking.
arsCynic@piefed.social · 12 pts · 50d
I install it when they are, and explain why, and how to temporarily turn it off if it breaks a website. Spreading the idea plus uBlock Origin is way more impactful than just uBlock Origin.
anarchy79@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 50d
Don't. When their computer breaks it'll be your fault and they will never stop calling you.
Just do good in the shadows. That's my motto.
arsCynic@piefed.social · 4 pts · 50d
Nah. It never is. I see it as yet another opportunity to dunk on Windoze.
Sergio@piefed.social · 4 pts · 50d
Superhero origin story.
SacredHeartAttack@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 50d
I’m the “tech guy” in my family and friend groups. Every time I need to help someone with something I have this experience and it’s crazy.
Donkter@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 50d
On the other hand, we should be thankful for the masses. If most people used adblockers that shit would get choke slammed off the Internet so hard our heads would spin. It's only because like 10% people use it that it stays under the radar.
BeardededSquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 7 pts · 50d
Not just ads but there's a ton of malicious ads out there. Scareware that you don't have to even click and your computer is now "infected" with a "virus" and you have to call some shitbag to just turn off the notifications for money.
pedantichedgehog@sh.itjust.works · 7 pts · 50d
I once explained to a sixty-something-year-old that she could use firefox+uBO instead of paying for youtube red or whatever the hell it's called Course, then I had to try to explain the concept of browser extensions and I'm not sure she got it
Agent641@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 50d
I use a VPN so places where I can't block ads, like podcasts on my phone, at least I only get nonsensical swedish-language ads.
AllHailTheSheep@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 50d
my work laptop didn't come with an adblocker for some reason unfathomable to me. the first time I realized there were ads on, like, everything was certainly humbling.
tempest@lemmy.ca · 6 pts · 50d
Advertisers know this which is why they use sponsored content and LLMs to post on social media.
You might think you've not seen ads but you have. They are not always as blatant as the pop ups of old. Things like 'news articles' from reputable organizations that were paid to write. Things like posts on Reddit that might not promote a product directly but always make sure it's part of the conversation.
solidheron@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 50d
Yeah dns blocker will give out you in a different world. Apps don't have intrusive ads anymore
Cytobit@piefed.social · 1 pts · 50d
mo_lave@reddthat.com · 1 pts · 50d
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scathliath@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 49d
Real.
Caption@lemmy.world · -14 pts · 50d
Seriously? What kind of virus infested bullshit are your idiot friends using? I have never gotten a single pop up from any reputable website. Aside from being a moron who clicks obviously fake links giving themselves viruses, the only time you'll get pop ups is if you're using an illegal site.
So I have to wonder what kind of shady shit you're doing that you need an ad blocker for every single website you use?
Turret3857@infosec.pub · 4 pts · 50d
bro has never looked anything up ever
Caption@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 48d
I look up shit all the time. There is a clear distinction between what is an advertisement, and what is a search result.
anarchy79@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 50d
I would estimate 95% of internet users use no adblock, no tracker blocks, no VPN.
95% of the global population rawdog the Internet for real.
Caption@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 48d
Yup. And any of them with brains never end up having any problems .