Lmao I was going to say "it could just be a cut-through visualization", but... No it couldn't. This is VERY clearly portraying the interior side of a door. On a car with a very weird and obstructive pillar shape, no less.
That's so you can check your hair while lane changing. The sleek design doesn't disrupt AC flow from the side dash. You'll look and feel cool as you pull in to refill every 50km.
Nah, it's the first vehicle designed for looksmaxxers: all of the mirrors are on the inside, pointing directly at the driver. AI checks your surroundings for you.
How about you tell us the benefits of these details, since you're pro slop;
Multiple generative 'AI' companies were caught using real photos of real people and child abuse victims to generate csam, including musk's grok. They responded by hiding it behind a paid version and then lobbying to make it legal in the US.
Entire states are doubling their water and power consumption by running data centers for these llms advertised as 'AI' to the general public
Mass surveillance is being enabled globally by automated facial recognition software, online post tracking/analytics/bot accounts and mass media disinformation campaigns provided by the products these companies push.
Some of the surveillance software provided by these 'AI' companies is being used to support an actively genocial apartheid system.
Multiple war crimes, such as the bombing of Minab school and multiple targets in Lebanon were facilitated by these products sold to the American military as infallible target designators.
Multiple llms are also directly responsible for actively leading users into suicide, to which the companies responsible for the chatbots said "they signed the terms of use"
Which of these details do you agree with?
Edits- Leaving this up because I stand by what I said, but I now know Laser was taking the piss, so bravo to them for getting me good.
Yeah, it was. I just don't like putting "/s" or something on posts because what good is sarcasm if you're not upsetting anyone?
If someone thinks getting substantial aspects, like the side of a car door a mirror is on, wrong, are "smallest details" (which my post implies), they're dumb. Simple as
I was kind of expecting people to misunderstand it (no offense to anyone, I kept my stance somewhat vague on purpose) but I was hoping that it was so absurd the majority would get it :D
Ohhhhhhhhh. In that case excuse the previous tirade.
Unfortunately I'm one of those people who needs the '/s' because this level of absurdity is nothing compared to some of the 'you just dont like the new technology' arguments I've seen online from slopsuckers.
The idea is that you keep that volatile, explosive, toxic liquid into as close proximity yourself as possible, while still blocking egress with same. Some scientists say under the seat is best, but putting the tank in a crumple zone has proven to be the most intelligent design.
Imagine a firefighter prying you out of your cAIbertruck ICE (double entendre) edition with the jaws of life after the Full Self Driving^tm barrels off a cliff, only for both of you to be engulfed in flames when they puncture the gas tank conveniently nestled in the handle-free gull wing door.
Now if you REALLY wanted to do this, you could even do it without relocating the gas tank. Just run a flexible hose the way they run cables into car doors. Not a bad idea in any way shape or form, I promise
The problem I have with these "natural selection" jokes is that shit like this will kill other people.
And like, yeah it's funny and all until it actually happens. We are currently witnessing the results of DOGE gutting regulations and agencies in the US. Food getting recalled left and right They just extended the hours truckers can drive in a day. They've been slowly rolling back child labor laws sunce Trump's first term.
Was it ford that had a car that exploded on fenderbender due to fuel placement. The executives and designers where not the ones that where removed from the geen pool. I've seen Darwin awards said about people who already have children.
As the other person below me wrote, that’s the process in NJ and Oregon. So this person has something else in mind. Maybe drive through without stopping or something. Drive through with the door open? Just openly spray gasoline at a car like a squirt gun and have gutters send the fuel to the tank? I have so many questions!!!!!!
Depends on the country/area. Most western countries it's DIY, either paying at the pump or inside to staff.
Personally I prefer this because I feel lazy af otherwise. Though, it's quite nice in Japan because they often do the windows and stuff while pumping. But places like Greece, you just sit there awkwardly wanting to stretch your legs but they're confused if you get out.
this is my question. like instead of redesigning every car, why not just use some sort of computer vision to remove the gas cap, and then move a robot arm with the nozzle into the car. hell that's 100% easier to retrofit or make new gas pumps like that than redesign hundreds of thousands of cars.
not to make the point that it would be even easier to just stop production of gas engine cars and go electric.
or the easiest 'change' is just to have attendants work the pumps like they do at a lot of gas stations. i remember not even 10 years ago being able to pull up to a full service gas station and never getting out of my car because an employee would come to my car ask me how much i wanted and what type, and then remove my gas cap and insert the nozzle. then go to the next customer.
Electric cars just move the power generation elsewhere - often a gas- or coal- powered plant. Yes, large power plants can have better treatment of waste gases, for lower particulates and sulphur dioxides. Still produce the CO2, tho. We need robust public transport options, low-carbon power sources like renewables and nuclear, and reduce the number of unnecessary journeys by shopping locally, car sharing, and working from home wherever possible.
Completely agree - let's stop BBQ'ing the planet. Just need to make lots of little changes, but we need to start.
I can't believe I need to state the obvious here, but this is over and above all of the other extremely valid objections already raised by others vis-a-vis turning the door you sit right next to into an ersatz Molotov cocktail that weighs an extra fifty pounds.
How is this going to help gas stations become drive "thru?" (I see we still also haven't learned how to spell "through.") It's going to allow the gas station to do what, exactly, stick a nozzle in the side of your car?
That's already how filling a modern car with fuel works.
(Yes, I specified modern because otherwise at least one pedantic nerd is going to go "well acktshully" and mention any of the various cars from the '60s and '70s which had the filler hidden behind the license plate or brake light or an emblem on the trunk lid or whatever. We already know. Nobody cares.)
Ok this gave me a good chuckle. I then thought “ oh but you could make it so gas station attendants just stand/sit outside and fill up cars as they come “ but then I realized this would also be possible today, and I started laughing even harder. Besides ensuring that every little fender bender ends in painful death, there’s literally 0 purpose to this.
Hate to break it to you, but both "drive-through" and "drive-thru" are considered correct.
Wikipedia refers to "A drive-through or drive-thru (a sensational spelling of the word through)..."
As explained on Erin Wright Writing, "According to our primary American-English dictionaries (Merriam-Webster’s Collegiate Dictionary, Webster’s New World College Dictionary, and The American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language), drive-through is the preferred spelling, while drive-thru is an accepted informal variant. However, the use of drive-thru has become so common that using drive-through now feels incorrect."
Also keep in mind this is Xitter, where abbreviations are are a normalized (often necessary) part of the lingo.
You put the large rocks in the front yard, with an island and plants around them. For the driveway, if it's a road-facing garage, your car should block that. If you don't put the car in the garage, leaving the car ramps or blocks you use to change your oil against the garage door should be fine.
How is this going to help gas stations become drive “thru?” (I see we still also haven’t learned how to spell “through.”) It’s going to allow the gas station to do what, exactly, stick a nozzle in the side of your car?
"We need to put mid air refueling rigs on gasoline tankers on the highway" -Elmo Muks.
Thank you! Yeah, this is all downsides for no upside. It's like saying if I want to stop having my legs show I can wear body paint instead of pants. Like, pants are already doing the proposed goal better than the paint will, and it's all downhill from there.
All this negativity... I, for one, for endorse this for those who love Ai. Don't listen to the nay-sayers, guys! Go build this for your car, and do it soon!
This is like when people said the Cybertruck wasn't amphibious. What a bunch of idiots. Of course it is, and everyone who listened to those idiots missed out on a primary feature of that vehicle for the gods. That finisher car.
It's like the famous saying, "If you want to do something that might be dangerous, it's best to do it very quickly so that the danger doesn't have enough time to pop up." Einstein gave his life proving this principle, so the least we can do is quote it as much as possible because big danger is trying to bury it so they can stay relevant in today's economy.
How even do they expect this change to make drive-thru gas stations possible? They are already as drive-thru as they can be and the opening to fill the tank is already on the side of the car.
Instead, what we ought to do is have massive refuelling tankers just cruising around and we put the fueling port on the front so we can refuel mid-drive like a fighter jet.
I was driving south of Frankfurt in Germany a few years ago and the freeway has pantographs so the electric trucks can charge on the fly. When will dino-burners get the same treatment? :-D
Ignoring all the safety concerns. Wouldn't this make the door heavier and rase the center of gravity. Also where is the window going to retract to. There would need to be multiple tanks all balanced. I don't think the tank placement is an issue for car designers.
Issue was solved and someone is trying to find a novil idea from AI to justify the cost. LLMS don't understand what a car door is or what filling the car involves.
Those are perfect valid concerns but I believe the first one would be that you would have a hose running down through a hinge. Over time, leaks are to be expected, that is if you don't get your car door torn off and end up covered in gasoline.
Also in automobiles doors are expected to absorb the impact of side-collisions, which are very common.
The more one merelly thinks about it beyond the purelly superficial first order perspective, the more reasons pop-up not to have a fuel tank on a door.
Wouldn't it be better to make the fuel tank purposefully explode in case of a collision and direct the energy of the explosion outwards, like reactive armor?
I mean, what could ever go wrong with that idea???
Or, hear me out, add some nozzles that require very high pressure to activate that shoot flames at the thing trying to crash into you to scare it off or burn it up before it has a chance to get through the door. Then accidents will have to think twice--maybe even three times--before they pop up out of nowhere while you're doing normal everyday things like sneaking through a red light (if you roll slowly enough, you can try to argue that you were pretty much stopped the whole time. It's not a crime, it's a great way to save time.)
The first concern would be "why are we designing things for ICE vehicles at all?" There's no reason to make general-purpose cars any more that aren't electric.
There is still issues with the electric grid and how people don't know if they will find a charger. Fast charging and availability at service stations has helped but I would say it takes a while to fully convert a population to a new technology. Ice cars also have issues like wild pricing and availability in some remote areas but people have settled themselves with them.
True but the wings are still structural and have the engines on them. Considering how much fual a jet needs you would struggle to find another place to put it. For a car there isn't the same struggle to find a space and if it's a small car you can make a smaller tank and stop more.
Sure, but cars are more easily designed to accommodate weird aesthetics that make room for spare tires, gas tanks, etc. It's a low bar.
It would make just as much sense to fill the trunk lid or door pillars with gas. But they're all too small to make it worth the effort. One 16 gallon jug is fine.
Difference is, the wings don't have hinges, which means airplanes doesn't need flexible hoses that can fail and leak between the wings and engines. Another issue are impacts. Airplanes are required by law to keep from hundreds to thousands of meters apart, something that cars doesn't.
And it's not like placing the tank in the doors would save any space. My previous car had the fuel tank right under the rear seat for example, which saved space for the trunk and kept it safe from collisions.
So the wings are like the balls of the plane? I always wondered why they were there. I guess electric planes wouldn't need them and would be able to fly through tunnels, which could help reaching areas with mountains in the way.
They have no capacity for thought or introspection. It receives an input and selects tokens that match an expected output. That’s it. Yes it has been fed the entirety of human knowledge to be able to do this. But that’s like a human memorizing the entire mandarin alphabet but never learning mandarin. An Al just makes a sentence that looks right, or generates an image that matches the tokens in a prompt. I could make a mandarin sentence with random symbols, and it might even say something. Doesn’t mean I speak mandarin.
Aren't we the same though? We don't really know anything until we learn or train ourselves with knowledge? It's just that LLMs only do this per prompt.
Yesn't. What LLMs lack and causes these idiotic suggestions is context from mediums other than language. If you get down to it humans talking are also just trying to predict what should come next, but we predict this from more input than just text. Particularly with something like design, we come up with the design and then the text and maybe concept art to describe it. The llm comes up with a description that seems likely and then feeds it to a diffusion model to make an image to go with the text.
LLMs can be multimodal now. You can chuck a screenshot into claude code or whatever you use and the image generation process can also be done by the LLM itself rather than an external tool call as far as I know
Basically, the problem is input, but AFAIK a lot of AIs now are multi modal. Yes they can make up stuff but if you steer it to the right direction with proper context or inputs, it can help build. Maybe what you're talking about is AIs can't choose rather than think. They can think. Albeit, they can't choose only because of the guardrails. So, you are the user chooses to steer it to what you want
Yeah you kinda just make them one of those one-way systems thats like airtight until you shove a hose in it, and then remove/automate the door and its truly drive through.
Ff I think I get it. Do they think fuel tank needs to be in door so they can take the nossle and fuel it from inside?
Bruh firstly, you don't need to put the entire fuel tank in the door for that. Secondly, it's pretty stupid to think grabbing anything outside the car while being inside the car is going to be a comfortable experience.
Yeah, but the exact same effect can be achieved by just having the intake to fill the tank on the door and then a hose down to the fuel tank since you would need a hose going that way anyway since it if wasn't from the intake to the tank it would be from the tank to the engine.
That's gotta be amongst the worst "solutions" imaginable for that convenience "problem".
Well, that's a right-side door, viewed from the inside.
The curve of the door and window (that you can't roll down) could account for the apparent size ... you know, if this were a real pic.
But mirror is absolutely on the wrong side. Total AI glitch there.
And the door itself, being a right-side door, is not gonna work for American driving ... again, if this were a real thing and had a real road system it's intended to work for.
Fear not, folks. There's no gas line to the engine. This vehicle is going nowhere.
And how da fuq is your car gonna run on that small of a gas tank? Even after they fix the gas line, it sure won't go far.
How lazy do you have to be to not be prepared to get out of your car and stand next to it for two minutes? Presumably when they get home they're going to get out of the car and walk into their house which is a further distance, when you're refueling you literally don't even need to walk the whole length of the car.
If you live in a moderate climate with reasonably new pumps, it's no big deal.
When it's 7 degrees outside and the pumps are slow as fuck in the cold, it's less wanting to be lazy than comfortable.
It falls in line with drive through pharmacies and food, but you sound a hell of a lot more snarky asking someone how lazy they have to be not to walk into CVS to get their prescriptions filled.
Pick the right materials and put burst discs in the right places, this might actually work even in a side-on collision with some straight up mad max flaming tanks.
The biggest issue I see is the fuel lines would have to flex with the door, and that tubing will need replacement during the life of the car. That's the much bigger concern: maintenance that is up to the customer. This is also my concern with "self driving" cars. Unless they "self drive" themselves for regular brake service and oil changes, that shit is just going to allow people to skip basic maintenance until it all catches fire.
I mentioned elsewhere that AI is really making people tell on themselves, in terms of how smart they are and how they see the world. It's handy.
Hunter here thinks that a piece of real-ish looking conceptual illustration is all it takes to prove that something is a viable concept. It's like watching a mecha anime and wondering why we haven't got our shit together to construct building-sized robots.
An idea like this, assuming it's not ragebait, would probably never leave the confines of this person's imagination and the AI's chat history. By the time you get to the point where you would send a design over to a fabrication shop, there would be too much skin in the game for somebody to not speak up about how dumb it is.
People are acting like these will just explode the moment an impact happens.
It would just pop and leak all the gas onto the ground and into waterways. This is a terrible idea for many reasons, but acting like it would increase car related deaths is sort of silly.
This is such a bad take, it would absolutely explode. Car gasoline is so flammable, especially on a hot day when the tank is full of vapor.
If this got T-boned it would pop like a balloon and throw a cloud of highly flammable fluid into the air. Not to mention all the sparks from the collision providing and excellent ignition source.
Gasoline vapor requires a certain mixture of vapor and air to ignite/explode. The tank would not only need to be practically empty (which if you aren't aware, you shouldn't be letting your gas tank get to almost empty - it's not just unsafe it's bad for the car), it would need to immediately be exposed to some kind of ignition source. Sparks would require metal grinding on metal, which typically isn't happening in a T-bone unless it's a really bad T-bone. Not to mention, if the gas tank isn't mostly empty - the amount of force required to vaporize the gasoline is actually insane and simply not realistic. I haven't done the math on it but we're talking melt the car door amounts of kinetic energy which... yeah an explosion is not just guaranteed but the least of your concerns.
It would certainly make fires more likely, again I'm not arguing that this is a good idea - this is certainly a bad idea. But it would not make explosions more likely.
The bigger threat is fuel leaking onto you in an accident. You're now riding with the gas tank next to you and above your lap compare to behind you and below you. Most cars burn down from fuel leakage in an accident.
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DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world · 260 pts · 1d
Fuckin' door is inside out.
boonhet@sopuli.xyz · 64 pts · 1d
Lmao I was going to say "it could just be a cut-through visualization", but... No it couldn't. This is VERY clearly portraying the interior side of a door. On a car with a very weird and obstructive pillar shape, no less.
albbi@piefed.ca · 25 pts · 1d
And the side view mirror on the inside as well.
UninterestingVoid@reddthat.com · 11 pts · 1d
So the ai bro can see how gorgeous they are all the timr. Another quality life upgrade ofc. /s
SlurpingPus@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 1d
The NASCAR approach.
SpikedIguana@sh.itjust.works · 18 pts · 1d
Maybe it's a suicide door.
CIA_chatbot@lemmy.world · 28 pts · 1d
Oh it’s definitely a suicide door
saltesc@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 1d
That's so you can check your hair while lane changing. The sleek design doesn't disrupt AC flow from the side dash. You'll look and feel cool as you pull in to refill every 50km.
tuckerm@feddit.online · 9 pts · 1d
Nah, it's the first vehicle designed for looksmaxxers: all of the mirrors are on the inside, pointing directly at the driver. AI checks your surroundings for you.
Laser@feddit.org · 6 pts · 1d
These luddites will find the smallest details just to complain about AI
NihilsineNefas@slrpnk.net · 5 pts · 1d
How about you tell us the benefits of these details, since you're pro slop;
Multiple generative 'AI' companies were caught using real photos of real people and child abuse victims to generate csam, including musk's grok. They responded by hiding it behind a paid version and then lobbying to make it legal in the US.
Entire states are doubling their water and power consumption by running data centers for these llms advertised as 'AI' to the general public
Mass surveillance is being enabled globally by automated facial recognition software, online post tracking/analytics/bot accounts and mass media disinformation campaigns provided by the products these companies push.
Some of the surveillance software provided by these 'AI' companies is being used to support an actively genocial apartheid system.
Multiple war crimes, such as the bombing of Minab school and multiple targets in Lebanon were facilitated by these products sold to the American military as infallible target designators.
Multiple llms are also directly responsible for actively leading users into suicide, to which the companies responsible for the chatbots said "they signed the terms of use"
Which of these details do you agree with?
Edits- Leaving this up because I stand by what I said, but I now know Laser was taking the piss, so bravo to them for getting me good.
Laser@feddit.org · 2 pts · 1d
I asked ChatGPT about this and this is what it said:
bold_atlas@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 1d
What a depressing amount of downvotes.
WillFord27@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 1d
should be more :/
Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it · 7 pts · 1d
I hope it's some irony we didn't get because i am gettin disappointed from lemmy
Laser@feddit.org · 7 pts · 1d
Yeah, it was. I just don't like putting "/s" or something on posts because what good is sarcasm if you're not upsetting anyone?
If someone thinks getting substantial aspects, like the side of a car door a mirror is on, wrong, are "smallest details" (which my post implies), they're dumb. Simple as
I was kind of expecting people to misunderstand it (no offense to anyone, I kept my stance somewhat vague on purpose) but I was hoping that it was so absurd the majority would get it :D
NihilsineNefas@slrpnk.net · 5 pts · 1d
Ohhhhhhhhh. In that case excuse the previous tirade.
Unfortunately I'm one of those people who needs the '/s' because this level of absurdity is nothing compared to some of the 'you just dont like the new technology' arguments I've seen online from slopsuckers.
Laser@feddit.org · 4 pts · 23h
It's fine, these Internet points aren't doing anything except help with sorting
SlurpingPus@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1d
I started getting a disproportionate amount of responses from people not getting sarcasm, after migrating from Reddit to Lemmy.
Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it · 1 pts · 1d
Hehe, sadly people like this do exist so i wouldn't be surprised, welp, you get an upvote now
WillFord27@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1d
yeah I'm a bit confused as well
criticon@lemmy.ca · 6 pts · 1d
MC Escher door
shyguyblue@lemmy.world · 117 pts · 1d
How is babby formed?
Edit: Also, how do you roll down the window?
PointlessLifePersonified@slrpnk.net · 27 pts · 1d
It's on a hinge at the top, & the bottom sticks out (there are multiple types of mechanisms for this design).
Alexstarfire@lemmy.world · 66 pts · 1d
I don't think they explained babies to you properly.
AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 1d
Wait, what?
ParlimentOfDoom@piefed.zip · 71 pts · 1d
How is this different from having the gas cap on the side of the car?
Is the idea you don't have to get out?
MintyFresh@lemmy.world · 87 pts · 1d
The idea is that you keep that volatile, explosive, toxic liquid into as close proximity yourself as possible, while still blocking egress with same. Some scientists say under the seat is best, but putting the tank in a crumple zone has proven to be the most intelligent design.
Schmoo@slrpnk.net · 13 pts · 1d
Imagine a firefighter prying you out of your cAIbertruck ICE (double entendre) edition with the jaws of life after the Full Self Driving^tm barrels off a cliff, only for both of you to be engulfed in flames when they puncture the gas tank conveniently nestled in the handle-free gull wing door.
diaphragmwp@discuss.tchncs.de · 2 pts · 1d
No, it will be a battery you silly!
BandanaBug@piefed.social · 1 pts · 1d
Ford Pinto flashbacks
boonhet@sopuli.xyz · 2 pts · 1d
Yes, that's what was implied by drive-thru.
Now if you REALLY wanted to do this, you could even do it without relocating the gas tank. Just run a flexible hose the way they run cables into car doors. Not a bad idea in any way shape or form, I promise
paultimate14@lemmy.world · 60 pts · 1d
The problem I have with these "natural selection" jokes is that shit like this will kill other people.
And like, yeah it's funny and all until it actually happens. We are currently witnessing the results of DOGE gutting regulations and agencies in the US. Food getting recalled left and right They just extended the hours truckers can drive in a day. They've been slowly rolling back child labor laws sunce Trump's first term.
RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 1d
Eventually they’ll just get rid of the oversight and monitoring, then there won’t be any more problems.
dharmacurious@slrpnk.net · 2 pts · 1d
Exactly. Can't find it if you don't test for it.
tazeycrazy@feddit.uk · 1 pts · 1d
Was it ford that had a car that exploded on fenderbender due to fuel placement. The executives and designers where not the ones that where removed from the geen pool. I've seen Darwin awards said about people who already have children.
frustrated_phagocytosis@fedia.io · 56 pts · 1d
The second coming of the Ford Pinto has been foretold
assembly@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 1d
Legit LOLed.
GloriousGasHole@piefed.social · 2 pts · 19h
Came here hoping to see a Ford Pinto comment. Was not disappointed.
Nasan@sopuli.xyz · 38 pts · 1d
Batteries in the doors for EVs act as explosive reactive armor.
- military tech bros
InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 1d
c/credibledefense
Blaster_M@lemmy.world · 35 pts · 1d
Clearly the Ford Pinto and Saddle-tanked Chevrolet trucks are old enough for people to have forgotten about why we don't.
Duamerthrax@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1d
The Dateline report that exposed the side saddle tank issue wasn't exactly done in good faith.
https://youtu.be/zeT6LspPPFQ?t=834
Blaster_M@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 19h
I remember
Sanctus@anarchist.nexus · 33 pts · 1d
You dont need to do that to have a drive thru gas station.
blitzen@lemmy.ca · 38 pts · 1d
Aren’t gas stations already drive through?
assembly@lemmy.world · 28 pts · 1d
That’s just one piece of this I am attempting to unpack. What does this persons gas station experience look like?
boonhet@sopuli.xyz · 12 pts · 1d
Presumably they get out of the car? In a drive-thru restaurant, you don't get out.
nickiwest@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 1d
I think this is the idea. So the driver can reach the gas tank without getting out of the car.
Because gods forbid that anyone has to walk 15 steps on their own feet to pump some gas.
assembly@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 1d
As the other person below me wrote, that’s the process in NJ and Oregon. So this person has something else in mind. Maybe drive through without stopping or something. Drive through with the door open? Just openly spray gasoline at a car like a squirt gun and have gutters send the fuel to the tank? I have so many questions!!!!!!
AppleTea@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 1d
In a few states, its illegal to pump your own gas. An attendant has to come over and do it for you. Maybe that's what they want?
blitzen@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 1d
Even in the places you pump yourself, you never really leave your car. So while it’s not exactly like a drive thru, it’s not unlike one either.
saltesc@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 1d
Depends on the country/area. Most western countries it's DIY, either paying at the pump or inside to staff.
Personally I prefer this because I feel lazy af otherwise. Though, it's quite nice in Japan because they often do the windows and stuff while pumping. But places like Greece, you just sit there awkwardly wanting to stretch your legs but they're confused if you get out.
green_link@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 1d
this is my question. like instead of redesigning every car, why not just use some sort of computer vision to remove the gas cap, and then move a robot arm with the nozzle into the car. hell that's 100% easier to retrofit or make new gas pumps like that than redesign hundreds of thousands of cars.
not to make the point that it would be even easier to just stop production of gas engine cars and go electric.
or the easiest 'change' is just to have attendants work the pumps like they do at a lot of gas stations. i remember not even 10 years ago being able to pull up to a full service gas station and never getting out of my car because an employee would come to my car ask me how much i wanted and what type, and then remove my gas cap and insert the nozzle. then go to the next customer.
MousePotatoDoesStuff@piefed.social · 3 pts · 23h
I'm with the electric option. We need to stop barbecueing our climate anyway.
addie@feddit.uk · 2 pts · 18h
Electric cars just move the power generation elsewhere - often a gas- or coal- powered plant. Yes, large power plants can have better treatment of waste gases, for lower particulates and sulphur dioxides. Still produce the CO2, tho. We need robust public transport options, low-carbon power sources like renewables and nuclear, and reduce the number of unnecessary journeys by shopping locally, car sharing, and working from home wherever possible.
Completely agree - let's stop BBQ'ing the planet. Just need to make lots of little changes, but we need to start.
MousePotatoDoesStuff@piefed.social · 2 pts · 13h
Yeah, I'm aboard for all those things too. Especially trains and remote work :D
dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world · 30 pts · 22h
I can't believe I need to state the obvious here, but this is over and above all of the other extremely valid objections already raised by others vis-a-vis turning the door you sit right next to into an ersatz Molotov cocktail that weighs an extra fifty pounds.
How is this going to help gas stations become drive "thru?" (I see we still also haven't learned how to spell "through.") It's going to allow the gas station to do what, exactly, stick a nozzle in the side of your car?
That's already how filling a modern car with fuel works.
(Yes, I specified modern because otherwise at least one pedantic nerd is going to go "well acktshully" and mention any of the various cars from the '60s and '70s which had the filler hidden behind the license plate or brake light or an emblem on the trunk lid or whatever. We already know. Nobody cares.)
ThunderComplex@lemmy.today · 8 pts · 21h
Ok this gave me a good chuckle. I then thought “ oh but you could make it so gas station attendants just stand/sit outside and fill up cars as they come “ but then I realized this would also be possible today, and I started laughing even harder. Besides ensuring that every little fender bender ends in painful death, there’s literally 0 purpose to this.
inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 20h
And you can still realize your dream right now by moving to New Jersey. But then you'd be dreaming in New Jersey.
ThunderComplex@lemmy.today · 5 pts · 20h
fireweed@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 21h
Hate to break it to you, but both "drive-through" and "drive-thru" are considered correct.
Wikipedia refers to "A drive-through or drive-thru (a sensational spelling of the word through)..."
As explained on Erin Wright Writing, "According to our primary American-English dictionaries (Merriam-Webster’s Collegiate Dictionary, Webster’s New World College Dictionary, and The American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language), drive-through is the preferred spelling, while drive-thru is an accepted informal variant. However, the use of drive-thru has become so common that using drive-through now feels incorrect."
Also keep in mind this is Xitter, where abbreviations are are a normalized (often necessary) part of the lingo.
0x0@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 20h
English: drive-through
Murican: drive-thru
Now about light...
Fluke@feddit.uk · 6 pts · 19h
English (Traditional), English (Simplified).
postmateDumbass@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 19h
Murican Drive-through:
rumba@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 19h
My driveway is at a T-in the road. it's only a matter of time
Corn@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 19h
You have large rocks or anything to stop this?
rumba@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 18h
my best option would be to petition the HOA to allow me to install https://www.drivewaybollards.ca/
i doubt that would fly
Corn@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 9h
You put the large rocks in the front yard, with an island and plants around them. For the driveway, if it's a road-facing garage, your car should block that. If you don't put the car in the garage, leaving the car ramps or blocks you use to change your oil against the garage door should be fine.
captainlezbian@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 19h
Nah, this is the pinnacle of murican drive-thrus
zovits@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 16h
Also, a door that weighs that much more is going to be fun on any ground that's not perfectly level.
dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 15h
And it can slosh. I'm sure that won't come into play at all when trying to open and close it.
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 5 pts · 16h
"We need to put mid air refueling rigs on gasoline tankers on the highway" -Elmo Muks.
dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 14h
Ever see footage of what this looks like from the cockpit? Fuel. Everywhere. The highway would be a gas-stinking oil-slick 24/7.
Also, Musk?! You'd think he'd jump at the chance to promote Tesla instead of spewing pulled-from-ass gas car concepts.
dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 15h
He's too late, Top Gear already did it anyway.
UltraMagnus0001@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 22h
Pinto door. Also the filler is on the side already
captainlezbian@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 19h
Thank you! Yeah, this is all downsides for no upside. It's like saying if I want to stop having my legs show I can wear body paint instead of pants. Like, pants are already doing the proposed goal better than the paint will, and it's all downhill from there.
BigPotato@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 21h
My exact thought. New Jersey already has gas stations as drive-thrus by default!
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 29 pts · 20h
We should put electric motors on sunken door handles with plastic gears to achieve 0.01% more efficiency.
Bonus: they stay safely locked in an accident because you should not trust EMTs with your valuables.
Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works · 25 pts · 1d
All this negativity... I, for one, for endorse this for those who love Ai. Don't listen to the nay-sayers, guys! Go build this for your car, and do it soon!
This is like when people said the Cybertruck wasn't amphibious. What a bunch of idiots. Of course it is, and everyone who listened to those idiots missed out on a primary feature of that vehicle for the gods. That finisher car.
Buddahriffic@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 22h
It's like the famous saying, "If you want to do something that might be dangerous, it's best to do it very quickly so that the danger doesn't have enough time to pop up." Einstein gave his life proving this principle, so the least we can do is quote it as much as possible because big danger is trying to bury it so they can stay relevant in today's economy.
Kolanaki@pawb.social · 24 pts · 1d
How even do they expect this change to make drive-thru gas stations possible? They are already as drive-thru as they can be and the opening to fill the tank is already on the side of the car.
Instead, what we ought to do is have massive refuelling tankers just cruising around and we put the fueling port on the front so we can refuel mid-drive like a fighter jet.
Doomsider@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 1d
No silly, the door comes off and you get a new door filled with the finest petrol.
njordomir@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1d
I was driving south of Frankfurt in Germany a few years ago and the freeway has pantographs so the electric trucks can charge on the fly. When will dino-burners get the same treatment? :-D
hansolo@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 1d
Or induction charging toll roadways for electric cars.
You know, a thing that actually works.
tazeycrazy@feddit.uk · 23 pts · 1d
Ignoring all the safety concerns. Wouldn't this make the door heavier and rase the center of gravity. Also where is the window going to retract to. There would need to be multiple tanks all balanced. I don't think the tank placement is an issue for car designers.
Issue was solved and someone is trying to find a novil idea from AI to justify the cost. LLMS don't understand what a car door is or what filling the car involves.
Ashiette@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 1d
Those are perfect valid concerns but I believe the first one would be that you would have a hose running down through a hinge. Over time, leaks are to be expected, that is if you don't get your car door torn off and end up covered in gasoline.
Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 5 pts · 1d
Also in automobiles doors are expected to absorb the impact of side-collisions, which are very common.
The more one merelly thinks about it beyond the purelly superficial first order perspective, the more reasons pop-up not to have a fuel tank on a door.
wewbull@feddit.uk · 4 pts · 23h
Tanks full of liquid do quite well a dispersing energy. Think of water barrels on the US highway. The liquid just needs to be able to escape.
So we just need to make it an open fuel tank. Problem solved.
Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 21h
Wouldn't it be better to make the fuel tank purposefully explode in case of a collision and direct the energy of the explosion outwards, like reactive armor?
I mean, what could ever go wrong with that idea???
Buddahriffic@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 22h
Or, hear me out, add some nozzles that require very high pressure to activate that shoot flames at the thing trying to crash into you to scare it off or burn it up before it has a chance to get through the door. Then accidents will have to think twice--maybe even three times--before they pop up out of nowhere while you're doing normal everyday things like sneaking through a red light (if you roll slowly enough, you can try to argue that you were pretty much stopped the whole time. It's not a crime, it's a great way to save time.)
moopet@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 1d
The first concern would be "why are we designing things for ICE vehicles at all?" There's no reason to make general-purpose cars any more that aren't electric.
tazeycrazy@feddit.uk · 2 pts · 21h
There is still issues with the electric grid and how people don't know if they will find a charger. Fast charging and availability at service stations has helped but I would say it takes a while to fully convert a population to a new technology. Ice cars also have issues like wild pricing and availability in some remote areas but people have settled themselves with them.
boonhet@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 23h
Mostly because people buy them. Because they're convenient.
Peppycito@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 1d
Why are we designing a surveillance state? Because we can.
kestrel7_7@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 21h
Do you think modern ICE cars don’t have the same surveillance features? Surveillance isn’t an inherent part of electric cars
0x0@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 20h
You're absolutely right!
hansolo@lemmy.today · 4 pts · 1d
It's not even novel, in a sense. On planes the fuel is stored mainly in the wings. This feels like an extrapolation of that.
tazeycrazy@feddit.uk · 2 pts · 21h
True but the wings are still structural and have the engines on them. Considering how much fual a jet needs you would struggle to find another place to put it. For a car there isn't the same struggle to find a space and if it's a small car you can make a smaller tank and stop more.
hansolo@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 19h
Sure, but cars are more easily designed to accommodate weird aesthetics that make room for spare tires, gas tanks, etc. It's a low bar.
It would make just as much sense to fill the trunk lid or door pillars with gas. But they're all too small to make it worth the effort. One 16 gallon jug is fine.
Anarch157a@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 19h
Difference is, the wings don't have hinges, which means airplanes doesn't need flexible hoses that can fail and leak between the wings and engines. Another issue are impacts. Airplanes are required by law to keep from hundreds to thousands of meters apart, something that cars doesn't.
And it's not like placing the tank in the doors would save any space. My previous car had the fuel tank right under the rear seat for example, which saved space for the trunk and kept it safe from collisions.
hansolo@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 19h
No, it's stupid, I'm just drawing on a faint similarity.
racketlauncher831@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 1d
Planes what??
hansolo@lemmy.today · 4 pts · 22h
STORE FUEL IN THE WINGS
Buddahriffic@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 22h
So the wings are like the balls of the plane? I always wondered why they were there. I guess electric planes wouldn't need them and would be able to fly through tunnels, which could help reaching areas with mountains in the way.
hansolo@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 19h
... What?
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 20h
Where else would you put the fuel? under the passengers?
hansolo@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 19h
Sure I guess. I dunno, I'm not an engineer.
antiR@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1d
I think AI should know that already because they basically just use all previous human knowledge unless a weak model was used for this
Zron@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 1d
LLM’s don’t know anything.
They have no capacity for thought or introspection. It receives an input and selects tokens that match an expected output. That’s it. Yes it has been fed the entirety of human knowledge to be able to do this. But that’s like a human memorizing the entire mandarin alphabet but never learning mandarin. An Al just makes a sentence that looks right, or generates an image that matches the tokens in a prompt. I could make a mandarin sentence with random symbols, and it might even say something. Doesn’t mean I speak mandarin.
antiR@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 1d
Aren't we the same though? We don't really know anything until we learn or train ourselves with knowledge? It's just that LLMs only do this per prompt.
LwL@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 1d
Yesn't. What LLMs lack and causes these idiotic suggestions is context from mediums other than language. If you get down to it humans talking are also just trying to predict what should come next, but we predict this from more input than just text. Particularly with something like design, we come up with the design and then the text and maybe concept art to describe it. The llm comes up with a description that seems likely and then feeds it to a diffusion model to make an image to go with the text.
boonhet@lemmy.zip · -1 pts · 23h
LLMs can be multimodal now. You can chuck a screenshot into claude code or whatever you use and the image generation process can also be done by the LLM itself rather than an external tool call as far as I know
antiR@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 22h
Basically, the problem is input, but AFAIK a lot of AIs now are multi modal. Yes they can make up stuff but if you steer it to the right direction with proper context or inputs, it can help build. Maybe what you're talking about is AIs can't choose rather than think. They can think. Albeit, they can't choose only because of the guardrails. So, you are the user chooses to steer it to what you want
captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works · 22 pts · 1d
Gas stations are drive thru though.
Funkt4st1c@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 1d
Yeah you kinda just make them one of those one-way systems thats like airtight until you shove a hose in it, and then remove/automate the door and its truly drive through.
qarbone@lemmy.world · 22 pts · 15h
Gas stations are...already a drive-thru?
...?!!
FreddiesLantern@leminal.space · 18 pts · 1d
Now hold on, isn't this like airbags, but then with explosive power instead of lame air?
PhoenixDog@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 1d
Can't be hurt in a car accident if you're 50 yards away from it
Taps Forehead
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 16h
if you jump out just before impact, you will be safe. My AI trained on Looney Tunes.
RichardNixos@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 20h
Can't have blunt trauma if you are a fine mist
Taleya@aussie.zone · 3 pts · 23h
My god, you're right! Gas tank the airbags!!
boonhet@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 23h
Air bags already have explosives tbf
SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1d
Burn_The_Right@lemmy.today · 17 pts · 1d
Can't even roll down the window to let the fumes out.
simulacra_procession@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 15h
Was thinking the same thing, they know that's not just empty space right..?
cinoreus@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 1d
Keeping aside the obvious hazard, what exactly was going on in this guys head? How does putting tank inside doors help?
floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 15 pts · 1d
I also had to think for a minute, I guess it's to avoid the horror of having to step out of your car for one minute?
cinoreus@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 1d
Ff I think I get it. Do they think fuel tank needs to be in door so they can take the nossle and fuel it from inside?
Bruh firstly, you don't need to put the entire fuel tank in the door for that. Secondly, it's pretty stupid to think grabbing anything outside the car while being inside the car is going to be a comfortable experience.
What was this guy thinking?
Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 5 pts · 1d
AI bros don't do that - they delegate their "thinking" to the statistical text parrot.
Tartas1995@discuss.tchncs.de · 3 pts · 1d
That is clearly his desire but how does it enable a drive through gas station unlike the safe way? That is my confusion.
Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 1d
Yeah, but the exact same effect can be achieved by just having the intake to fill the tank on the door and then a hose down to the fuel tank since you would need a hose going that way anyway since it if wasn't from the intake to the tank it would be from the tank to the engine.
That's gotta be amongst the worst "solutions" imaginable for that convenience "problem".
ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 21h
If you're gonna have someone filling your tank for you, can't they just walk to the back of the car? That's how it's done here in the first place
5ibelius9insterberg@feddit.org · 17 pts · 1d
Why does the gastank need to be part of the door to achieve this? It‘s already possible to fill it from the side of the car in most cars.
Edit: And why IS THE MIRROR ON THE INSIDE OF THE DOOR????
PattyMcB@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 1d
Because the gas tank under the car is for NORMIES!
Ugh
boonhet@sopuli.xyz · 2 pts · 1d
You have to get out of the car to fill it from the side. Drive-thru implies not having to get out of the car
aaaa@piefed.world · 3 pts · 1d
We didn't have to get out of the car in Oregon until the last couple of years
bold_atlas@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1d
You don't have to get out when filling up in Mexico either. They're just a more advanced society.
Monkey@piefed.social · 15 pts · 1d
Why is the window that small, and the mirror on the wrong side
dbtng@moist.catsweat.com · 7 pts · 1d
Well, that's a right-side door, viewed from the inside.
The curve of the door and window (that you can't roll down) could account for the apparent size ... you know, if this were a real pic.
But mirror is absolutely on the wrong side. Total AI glitch there.
And the door itself, being a right-side door, is not gonna work for American driving ... again, if this were a real thing and had a real road system it's intended to work for.
Fear not, folks. There's no gas line to the engine. This vehicle is going nowhere.
And how da fuq is your car gonna run on that small of a gas tank? Even after they fix the gas line, it sure won't go far.
TootSweet@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 1d
Less window, more gas, of course.
All the better to apply your makeup, of course.
It's GenAI 4D chess. Expect to see these features in the next Tesla model.
Monkey@piefed.social · 2 pts · 1d
Oh, thanks, I'm just not used to such innovation.
cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone · 12 pts · 1d
do these fucking assholes just like think learning about history is stupid or something? like gm literally did this and it was a disaster.
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 4 pts · 22h
History? Who cares about history? We're way smarter than those old people. If they were so smart, why are they all dead?
ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 21h
Honestly, I'm surprised someone even tried.
I'm not surprised it was GM
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 20h
Alfred P. Sloan upon refusing to install safety glass: "GM makes money, not cars".
Corn@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 19h
They did? What reason would you ever have for putting gas tanks in doors?
Was it like some kind of race trickery like putting fuel or boost in the frame?
Earthwormjim91@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 18h
GM has never put tanks inside the door.
They’ve put them inside the cab behind the bench seat, and outside the frame rails under the cab which was a safety nightmare.
The closest is the Ford Pinto where they stuck the fuel tanks behind the rear axle and it would explode if you got rear ended.
0x0@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 20h
Yes
ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 1d
There's already a way to make refueling a drive thru, it's called paying $10 to the gas station man to do it for you.
grrgyle@slrpnk.net · 6 pts · 1d
Hmmm but the problem with that is someone makes money by doing something, rather than someone I'll never see making money from owning things.
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 5 pts · 22h
New Jersey
echodot@feddit.uk · 2 pts · 21h
How lazy do you have to be to not be prepared to get out of your car and stand next to it for two minutes? Presumably when they get home they're going to get out of the car and walk into their house which is a further distance, when you're refueling you literally don't even need to walk the whole length of the car.
rumba@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 19h
If you live in a moderate climate with reasonably new pumps, it's no big deal.
When it's 7 degrees outside and the pumps are slow as fuck in the cold, it's less wanting to be lazy than comfortable.
It falls in line with drive through pharmacies and food, but you sound a hell of a lot more snarky asking someone how lazy they have to be not to walk into CVS to get their prescriptions filled.
tempest@lemmy.ca · 12 pts · 1d
Sure but wait till you find out where they put fuel in an airplane.
Duamerthrax@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 1d
Airplanes aren't normally at risk of side impacts. Normally. Not sure with this new AI enhanced air traffic control.
funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works · 9 pts · 1d
In the balls
Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de · 12 pts · 1d
Besides the other crazy shit, this would also make for one fat fucking door.
Jiral@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 23h
This is rage bait, right? Right?!
taiyang@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 1d
Why stop there? You could have fuel stored in veins across the whole car to increase storage. Above, under, front, back, nothing but good ole gas.
bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 1d
On a buell bike the frame is the tank. Really cool and also dumb.
impairedimperator@lemmy.zip · 9 pts · 1d
Pick the right materials and put burst discs in the right places, this might actually work even in a side-on collision with some straight up mad max flaming tanks.
The biggest issue I see is the fuel lines would have to flex with the door, and that tubing will need replacement during the life of the car. That's the much bigger concern: maintenance that is up to the customer. This is also my concern with "self driving" cars. Unless they "self drive" themselves for regular brake service and oil changes, that shit is just going to allow people to skip basic maintenance until it all catches fire.
fullsquare@awful.systems · 2 pts · 1d
BMP-1 also has fuel tanks in doors, not sure how they solved maintenance problem but it's doable
impairedimperator@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 22h
Eh, military equipment is theoretically maintained.
queermunist@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 22h
Sure Jan.
philipp_@discuss.tchncs.de · 1 pts · 1d
dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 15h
I mentioned elsewhere that AI is really making people tell on themselves, in terms of how smart they are and how they see the world. It's handy.
Hunter here thinks that a piece of real-ish looking conceptual illustration is all it takes to prove that something is a viable concept. It's like watching a mecha anime and wondering why we haven't got our shit together to construct building-sized robots.
sundray@lemmus.org · 8 pts · 1d
If you ride with my dad you'll have plenty of gas in the cabin with you.
inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 21h
Hi, my name is Pinto Jr.
GeneralEmergency@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 14h
This isn't even one of those sounds good on paper ideas.
Sam_Bass@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 1d
of course it's ai. you will never convince me it isnt determined to exterminate us flesh bags
MidsizedSedan@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 1d
My first thought was the weight of the door now...
rumba@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 19h
Weight in the door bending hinges, making it hard to open/shut
Movement in the flexible line to get it to the engine is a failure point
Noise of the pump in the door.
Pack of frame protection in the door
It's still hard to fill from the inside
Gas spills are going to get in the car.
Tank vents are too close to the interior
and it doesn't really make drive-through work you'll need the handle and all the buttons within arms reach.
Furbag@pawb.social · 7 pts · 22h
An idea like this, assuming it's not ragebait, would probably never leave the confines of this person's imagination and the AI's chat history. By the time you get to the point where you would send a design over to a fabrication shop, there would be too much skin in the game for somebody to not speak up about how dumb it is.
cardboardboxfort@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 21h
But most people like the smell of gasoline, they'll love being showered in when they get t-boned at an intersection.
0x0@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 20h
A copper shower?
Well i guess they add colorants now.
desmosthenes@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 1d
they are drive throughs in NJ
myyass@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 19h
It's advertising my Millennial Retirement Plan.
Avicenna@programming.dev · 6 pts · 20h
D-AI-rwin awards?
devedeset@lemmy.zip · 6 pts · 1d
Wait until these guys find out about New Jersey
weps@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 1d
high quality of life or die trying
Unquote0270@programming.dev · 5 pts · 22h
Some people would do anything to not get up off their fat arses.
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 20h
People who take an elevator to the gym on the 3rd floor. They will tell you about protein diets, brah.
TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 1d
Literally Elon Musk and Tesla.
RobotFK@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 4 pts · 19h
Bmp-2 moment
Danarchy@lemmy.nz · 4 pts · 1d
Sounds safe, at any speed
DudleyMason@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 15h
Well, just like any other idea that would definitely lead to fewer carholes in existence...I'm in favor of it.
savvie@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 1d
gas tank should be on the rooftop, under Mitt Romney’s sick dog.
Zerush@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 18h
Better under the seats, it has a better weight distribution, better with hydrogen for more ecology. Can provide occasional orbital experiences.
HCSOThrowaway@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1d
DeadEndLink@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 1d
AI's now come with a sense of dark humor
Corn@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 9h
Is his idea that they open the side of your car door and stick a whole new tank in there?
You don't need to put the tank in the door to do that...
Jax@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 14h
People are acting like these will just explode the moment an impact happens.
It would just pop and leak all the gas onto the ground and into waterways. This is a terrible idea for many reasons, but acting like it would increase car related deaths is sort of silly.
thedeadwalking4242@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 12h
This is such a bad take, it would absolutely explode. Car gasoline is so flammable, especially on a hot day when the tank is full of vapor.
If this got T-boned it would pop like a balloon and throw a cloud of highly flammable fluid into the air. Not to mention all the sparks from the collision providing and excellent ignition source.
Jax@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 9h
Gasoline vapor requires a certain mixture of vapor and air to ignite/explode. The tank would not only need to be practically empty (which if you aren't aware, you shouldn't be letting your gas tank get to almost empty - it's not just unsafe it's bad for the car), it would need to immediately be exposed to some kind of ignition source. Sparks would require metal grinding on metal, which typically isn't happening in a T-bone unless it's a really bad T-bone. Not to mention, if the gas tank isn't mostly empty - the amount of force required to vaporize the gasoline is actually insane and simply not realistic. I haven't done the math on it but we're talking melt the car door amounts of kinetic energy which... yeah an explosion is not just guaranteed but the least of your concerns.
It would certainly make fires more likely, again I'm not arguing that this is a good idea - this is certainly a bad idea. But it would not make explosions more likely.
HK65@sopuli.xyz · 4 pts · 13h
It would slosh around every time you open the door
Kevin77@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 13h
The bigger threat is fuel leaking onto you in an accident. You're now riding with the gas tank next to you and above your lap compare to behind you and below you. Most cars burn down from fuel leakage in an accident.
Jax@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 9h
I think a fire is a much more realistic worry than an explosion, for sure.