Yeah, I kinda fell off around then as well. I started watching sometime around the end of season 2 airing, and I remember how fun and exciting it was. I'm not sure the show was meant to go on as long as it did. I think that's a big problem with things getting popular too, is this desire to keep things going past their expiration date.
Credit where it's due, Netflix does the limited series thing and I like that. Let's state from the beginning: this is it. Now, Netflix also just cancels shows it shouldn't, and that's massively disappointing, so debit where it's due too (that's an opposite of credit but obviously not the right one but I can't think of the word and I gotta wrap this thing up).
The joke was that there was no joke, Rick is just being an asshole and disappointing everyone around him. But between that and the shezuan sauce incident, I realized the fandom has literally zero media literacy, they're just clapping at shapes and colors.
Everyone's media literacy, reading comprehension, ability to appreciate nuance or capacity to consider multiple non-mutually-exclusive ideas in their head at once is vanishing.
It's actually so fucking depressing to see how many people who I agree with politically and ethically are also kind of stupid and seem to have peaked intellectually.
I don't know if its gotten worse, we should expect it to have gotten better now that people consume more media than ever.
If judging from my trump-supporting, boomer extended family playing Jimmy Hendrix's Star Spangeled Banner at a 4th of July cookout, it was always terrible.
These include people who are still mad at Jane Fonda and blame the vietnamese for defending themselves.
A lot of folks have watched the show and come to the conclusion that it's an endorsement of their lifestyles which they view as similar to Rick at the start of the series, plus the extremely toxic behavior that comes along with the impression that you're better than everyone and your intelligence justifies any behavior you are criticized for
Yeah. Used to be like that. What a shitty way to live. Denying any need to change by claiming superior intelligence over the people suggesting change, even though you're desperately unhappy.
Honestly, linux for me (yes I know where I am). Love the software and options, but holy shit is the fanbase incredibly opinionated and full of condescension about it. Also they don’t know how to shut the fuck up about it, and constantly bring it up where it doesn’t belong. Like its a personality trait to them or something.
For many, it is. Autism, hyperfixation, and passion are needed to do something like create an OS from scratch, pick and choose any of the 3 to then use it in an incomplete state.
Id argue we're finally at the point where you actually dont need any of those, just a willingness to learn and adapt
First two books of ASoI&F were pretty good, I thought. Then the rest were just him writing himself in circles, ever more slowly. Then the TV adaptation came out, to initially great acclaim, and then ended with a damp fart.
Yes, there were more problems with the end of the show than just his plot, or lack of it, but I can't see that the ending will be redeemed without substantial changes, and his skills as a writer don't really extend to "writing towards the desired ending".
I think if we do ever get a conclusion to the book series, it will be written by someone else; I believe he's left instructions to destroy all his notes and work-in-progress when he dies?
Even if you interact with the fandom, you are certainly not doing it in public, be it on forum, Reddit, Lemmy or Discord, you will encour the risk of gettin flashed with either some strange images or see other things you don't wanna see and this get worse the bigger the fandom get
Most 'nerd' stuff. Comic book movie discussion has gone to shit because people have become weird about it. When it's not manosphere bullshit, it's people expecting Endgame level quality and stakes for every single movie now, who would've shat on Iron Man if it came out today, and who need to be reminded of the absolute horse shit that we used to get. They're starting to rival the Star Wars fans in terms of being insufferable.
Outside of the cosy games spaces that I've been hanging around, all I ever hear from Gamers™ is some controversy about a female character being a game. Or gasp a black character. They're happy with the main protagonist being a woman if the jiggle psychics are set to max though.
And online at least, the alternative scene has gone to shit. People from the anti jock subcultures started listening to jocks with microphones on podcasts. People who grew up listening to Jonathan Davis singing about being called a "faget", went on to become people who call others "betas". Metal went from representing rebellion to representing people who go "stop making it political".
And so many 'punks' seem to have become Joe Rogan fans too. I've even had to argue with people calling me a "woke lefty" in fan spaces for The Clash. We all laughed when Joe Rogan said "conservative is the new punk" but it's an even bigger joke because half the people that took his word for it were punks.
Care to elaborate on the Terraria fanbase? I never got into the game, always liked starbound more, but I could not get from them anything besides condescension regarding any other 2d-survival-whatchamacall-this-genre games. It's terraria or nothing else.
My experience is 50/50. Half the fandom are smart enough to see the lore is mostly satire meant to be silly exaggeration, the other half has a power fantasy from different, but overlapping backgrounds (misogynist, racist, homophobic, etc).
Sonic the Hedgehog for me. I love the franchise, but I stay clear of the fandom. So many weird people latch onto Sonic stuff and make it all icky and creepy. I guess that's what happens when a company like SEGA claims "Everything is canon."
Also perverts. I was absolutely obsessed with Sonic Archie comics and finding forums as a kid was how I learned about furry porn. Scarred and older, a decade later, saw how cool Sonic Mania was and wanted to interact with others. And there it was again... Pervert shit.
I've been mostly obsessed with the comics as well. I built a website just to track all the comics and arrange their covers in proper reading order.
It's out of date right now (I'm currently working to get it updated, actually), but all the Archie Sonic comics are listed in order. You can check it out here.
I at least like that a few pieces of Sonic media lampshade this.
In one episode of Sonic Boom (a show designed to be watched high by adults) he’s kidnapped by an aardvark that’s a rabid fan.
“Oh! N-no, I wasn’t trying to escape, I was just…reading some of this fanfiction! Ooh. Sonamy, spicy!”
“Oh. Yeah, I don’t really even care for it, but it seems requisite for the readers.”
Skoolies for me. A few years ago I bought a used school bus and started converting it into a motorhome. I made an account at the main forum (skoolie.net) because there were people there that actually knew useful stuff, primarily about metalworking (which I'd never done before) and the mechanical aspects of bus ownership (which I still don't know shit about).
Surprisingly (or maybe not) skooliers heavily tend towards being right-wing, trump-loving, gun-toting, immigrant-hating wankers. There are exceptions but they always end up being driven away. The thought of going to one of the annual skoolie gatherings is nightmare fuel for me.
skooliers heavily tend towards being right-wing, trump-loving, gun-toting, immigrant-hating wankers.
Years ago my dad bought an old school bus because he wanted to convert it into a motor home with private bathroom and a garage in the back for his motorcycle for trips to the Sturgis Motorcycle Rally.
Apart from the fact that he never got around to doing any work on the bus and eventually gave up and unloaded it on someone, your description would have been completely accurate.
Your dad did the right thing. I got mine 95% done at the cost of tens of thousands of dollars and arthritis basically everywhere, just for the honor of paying $100 a month to park it at a U-haul lot. I know how to weld and rivet now, just as useless as the bus.
all the people i have known in metalwork or maker spacers were all far-left and kept injecting their politics and insecurity about being 'authentic' and 'cool' into everything. it's a major turn off.
i have no idea how heating up pieces of metal to merge them together or other stuff like that has anything to do with politics, but people can't help themselves. Also these spaces in my experience... were all well-off white people desperately trying to 'signal' they were not like 'white people'.
anyways, i take those kinda classes and hobby things at adult education centers and libraries and such... because no politics. a lot older crowd though but a lot less massive insecurity and injection of identity insecurity into everything. turns out the really cool people are the boring uncool ones.
This insecurity about being authentic has pervaded so many things, even absent any real political context. LIke people will suddenly whip out "You know, nachos aren't really authentic Mexican food, they're Tex-Mex cuisine." Okay, what do you expect me to do in that situation, spit it out and go "Ugh, that's disgusting!" Authentic or not, they're still delicious. I totally get pursuing authenticity when you're trying to preserve a culture and are worried it's under threat, but it gets brought into absolutely ridiculous contents, often by people who have no real basis or authority to be the arbiters of authenticity for what they're discussing in the first place as a way to try and make themselves seem more worldly.
Wasn't really a competition, just for illustrating a point. I've only passed through Texas for a layover, but honestly, Texas as a state has zero appeal to me. I'd rather just go to Mexico for better versions of pretty much anything in Texas that's remotely interesting to me, while avoiding a fair chunk of the things that make Texas so miserable a prospect to me in the first place.
Besides, Texans might have improved upon nachos at some point, but claiming you have a superior version doesn't invalidate that nachos have already been widely accepted as a Tex-Mex dish. "Nachos are a Tex-Mex dish" is the opening to the wiki article on them, with 8 different citations to back up that claim.
It was so weird to study in STEM and meet other Star Trek fans in the cantina. Now there is something wrong with Wesley Crusher and I'm supposed to hate him and project that on the child actor, too? And when Jeri Ryan is nice enough to come all the way to a European convention, they yell "strip"? (At least they were disgusted as well about the latter, just reported others doing it.)
Every few years I find a kpop act I like but holy shit, the fanbase is fucking horrible. I'd rather try getting into League again before I'd interact with those creatures.
I haven’t! I’m going through Elysium for the first time on an Rg34xx, feels sooooo cool.
The Aloha ones are like my most anticipated games on the horizon, not just for rom hacks but full stop! Lazarus was easily my favorite game of the year, I’m really trying not to do a 4th play through lol
Lazarus was so good. I ended up throwing speed up on to shiny hunt all the static encounters towards the end of the game. Was a great time.
Plus I loved the Alolan Raichu buff. Surge Surfer creating an electric terrain + Choic Specs/Focus Sash meant that my Raichu was dominating. Just had to watch for the occasional sucker punch or pursuit haha.
I had fun with Odyssey, too. I’m not as excited for Odyssey 2, however. Not really sure why actually.
In the long long ago, in the before time, when a new manga, or anime became popular it wasn't long before the fanbase formed. These weren't your fanbases of today, these were communities to soak up everything there was to their favorite sgow. There was competition and cringe yes, but it had honor, there were boundaries. It was like this for decades.
Then Rick showed us how much he loves Szechuan Sauce and McDonald's thought Rick and Morty was any other fanbase. They were wrong. Now a fanbase is just another segment of the population which can be marketed to and have wealth extracted. Another thing that can be packaged up into a product or video to maximize how much of your money or attention they get.
We're Rick and Morty or McDonald's to blame? No, they were only doing what everyone had been doing for decades. No, the world is different. The shows are different. The whole business is different. We the fans are different. We have to take our favorite thing as far as it will go to get as much as we can, boundaries be damned.
The older I get the better I am at finding groups of people and fanbases where this doesn't apply. I'm in a spot with music, cooking, visual arts, science and more both IRL and online that are just nice. And it's not about lack of different opinions and being in a bubble, I just focus on and stay with people and groups who are nice about it.
The only fans I ever met irl were at the movie theater for the finale, and they were cool. The online community is, from what I've heard, pretty unwell.
A friend of my fiancee is a fan and put an episode on when we were over once.
I'm autistic but I'm not that fucking autistic. It takes a lot to make me cringe, but that show does it every other line, and seeing the friend squee at this strange rapey clownshow was almost enough for me to ask if we were sure about including them in the wedding party.
it's existential horror with absurd comedy elements. Pretty much the definition of "not for everyone", so it's not surprising some (most?) people strongly dislike it.
Yup. I recognize it's not for me, and I recognize that had it not been for that cringe fan pushing it on us I might have given it a proper chance (much like Rick & Morty, a show I will never watch but still absolutely despise because of the fans).
Probably a good idea, OP. The F1 fanbase has become a circus in the past decade. A lot of newcomers bringing their tribalism mentality of other sports along with them, not understanding how F1 works.
If you actually do want to get involved in a motorsport fanbase, GTs. But watching the NLS stream with chat while Max is in a team can be fatiguing. 100+ teams on track over many classes, so effectively 16 races going on, and every five mins his fanbase, that has no idea what they're watching, start arguing about F1. Some genuinely say it's their first GT race and ask a lot of questions, the fanbase is thrilled and explains everything with welcoming arms.
Definitely true. I’m a 43 year old guy who’s loved F1 since the 90’s and living in a small rural town I didn’t even have anyone to talk to about F1 in person. Fortunately, but in the end, unfortunately there is a coworker on a different crew. That is a big Formula 1 fan, but he is a Max fan and I by fan I mean one of “those” Max fans. He is very short tempered about any race that Max doesn’t win and he is still convinced that McLaren cheated last year to win. And also sadly he is very racist towards Lewis and Yuki so I don’t interact with him at all.
Talk about the mid-pack teams only with him. We all know the good shit is with Alpine, RB, Haas, and crossing fingers for Williams and Audi. Following one driver and one team, may as well just put the 4 min YT highlights on instead of watch the actual racing.
Maybe remind him the Max has no trophies. They all go back to the team after the race.
My god the F1 crowd is awful. There is no debate on rules or issues, there is only "I'm right and your a fucking idiot for disagreeing". I want to get more into GT3 as I've always preferred it in racing sims, but it's kind of hard to follow comparatively.
For sure I don’t think F1 is gonna change for the better anytime soon with the fan base. But yes there are definitely other options to watch. WEC is goated right now and WRC is as well too. The WRC needs some new regulation because it’s slowing becoming off road F1 in terms of cost. Super GT is always has a special place in my heart too.
Yes that is very important to me as well. If I’m honest I just turn my brain off while I watch it. I know that’s not the answer you are probably looking for but it’s a small enjoyment in my life with all the craziness and negativity in the world.
Formula-E has been a thing for a few years, and this year notably included a mandate to drastically increase the reliance on the battery units over the ICEs for power in F1. In either case, it's not really there yet, but I'm looking forward to the day that it does get there.
Formula E had (I don't know if it's been rectified since) a pretty significant issue with the batteries just not being able to last for F1 race distances on several tracks. They haven't got the top speed and endurance at those speeds that the F1 hybrids deliver, and because it's a racing sport, you can't just make the battery larger to add capacity without a significant impact on your race pace, nor can they just pop into the pits and patiently wait for a rapid charge to finish topping off their batteries.
That aside, I can't imagine Formula E really manages to deal much better with the major source of pollution and emissions for F1, which is shipping a full track worth of cars, drivers and support crew around the world many times a year. Of course, in that regard, I don't know how many of the Formula E drivers are actual pulling in the sort of money to be owning and maintaining private jets for this purpose, and at least one of the F1 drivers has sold his off. I remember Lewis Hamilton used to get a lot of flack for telling people to go vegan to save the planet while using a private jet 20 odd times a year, and I guess he finally felt silly enough about that contradiction to sell it off.
Edited, realized my comment on F1's new power unit rules was poorly written and confusing at first.
Nowhere did I suggest binning it, and I support their eventual transition into being able to leave even hybrids behind. You stated "racing EV’s would be more exciting" and I just pointed out some of the issues that currently prevent it from being more widely adopted and more popular with motorsport fans at large. Otherwise, I doubt you'll find many people to agree that a fully EV Indy 500 was comparable in impact of the event as it exists now if the vehicles could only do 2/3 of the distance with a car capable of less than half the power of the machines it's meant to replace. An F1 car outputs 1000hp, while a Formula E car can do a touch under 500hp. This isn't a knock on them, and I fully expect them to keep improving, but this is an edge case wear current EVs aren't there yet.
I've not crunched the numbers myself but the actual racing probably produces a lot less pollution than the logistics of teams and fans travelling to each race, and given that there are only 20-odd races per year all the fans travelling around the world probably causes less overall pollution than something like football where there are loads of big matches every week.
Interestingly one of the purposes/benefits of f1 is (supposed to be) pioneering new technology. For instance, the fuel is (supposedly) now sustainability produced, and I think a lot of the hybrid engine tech developed for f1 then made its way to road cars. Of course most of the biggest sponsors are oil companies looking to throw away the electric tech now, so who knows what the fuck the future looks like...
Technologies pioneered in F1 have made their way into our lives over the decades, not just in the cars we drive, but in feilds as varied as pediatric surgery and air traffic control.
it's not worth the pollution.
period. also, you can't just 'nasa' your way out of it, cute tho.
Technologies pioneered in F1 have made their way into our lives over the decades, not just in the cars we drive, but in fields as varied as pediatric surgery and air traffic control. Every car you've ever driven was more efficient due to something that was bleeding edge in F1 years earlier.
I'm not an expert so I couldn't say how but I would be amazed if their current work with hybrid drivetrains don't improve EVs.
Yeah, F1 burns a lot of gas, but calling it "just funsies" is short sighted. If you add up it's effects over the years it's a net positive and it's not even close.
bullshit, that's exactly what it is. stop acting like idiots racing in circles is some kind of science program for the benefit of the proletariat, that's absolute garbage - these teams are sponsored by some of the worst brands (WOO MARLBORO!) - to burn gas for ENTERTAINMENT.
Love the hobby, rusticness of it, 'the art', if you will, but man is the entire community full of grumpy old incensitive conservatives. There are exceptions to the rule like a few dudes at my local shop, but for the most part, I keep to myself about it.
My first suggestion is to head to youtube. Pipe knowledge is rather universal. Hobbiton Piper is a great person to start with, as is Timberdrifter and Muttonchop Piper.
There are many different pipe blends and types, but primarily they're split between Aromatics, English and Virginias or Virginia blends. Oriental and Balkan blends I'd consider more niche. Personally, I like Virginias and the blends therof, VA/Perique and Burley is my jam, but I'd suggest starting with Aromatics.
As for types of pipes, stick to Corncobs starting out, they're not only my personal favorite to smoke, but they're cheap and you can have one for every day of the week for not much dough. Grab a nice briar once you're sure you're into the hobby.
Then all you have to do is find a calm spot and a good book, and away you go.
Weed in a tobacco (wooden) pipe tends to be a fruitless cause, imo. You make a lot of mess and gunk and the high temps weed burns at runs the risk of burning through the bowl.
Trust me, I love me some devil's lettuce, just trying to make sure you don't spend $100-$150 on a nice pearwood churchwarden then burn a hole through it lol.
Yeah, anytime I was fortunate enough to get into something before the wave, it was awesome, and then popularity murdered it. It's just the way she goes. So now I consume whatever it is I'm interested in and just avoid it in the public realm, and it's fine.
The last big thing to hit my niche is those white plastic tables you get at the big box store and no I'm not joking. The next big thing will be the book I publish I hope.
I attempt to only talk about these things with IRL friends. When our opinions disagree, we're all nice about it. When we agree, it's really fun to geek out on it together.
Even when we disagree, it can be fun to hear the reasons why. Because we don't attack each other over personal preferences.
But trying to do that online? Nah. Tis a silly place.
I have a group of friends who have very distant opinions on the types of things we like, and having friendly arguments over these things is one of the highlights of my week.
I daren't even enter a forum for any of those hobbies online.
I recently discovered that a band I like not only has a subreddit dedicated to hating it, there's another subreddit dedicated to making fun of the other subreddit. This is in addition to the main subreddit which, can you believe? Is filled with drama over the other two, in addition to gushing over the artist who, quite frankly, is only ok. It's kinda niche so they get a decent following just by filling in an undeserved market.
But if this artist ran over a nun after robbing a bank, it wouldn't even make front page news in LA.
That’s the difference with political discourse today. You had an obligation to be nice to people in fear of getting punched. Too many people cower behind keyboards with big opinions today because they know if they acted like that in public they would be hit.
I don't like fan bases at all. They always manage to make things weird that doesn't need to be weird. Fan fiction is culprit number one. Make your own thing, instead of making someone else's thing, but worse.
I can enjoy the things i like without needing to flaunt it obnoxiously.
Guitar/Metal, spider-man and Donald Duck comics, Harry potter-books, sports(just sports in general, exceptional achievements are exiting to watch).
Because [me] [music] looks pretty cool to play, it just takes three to four people to do it right. I think. I haven't tested the method with the largest instrument I have played, so until I do I won't know if it's three or four.
Normal people do it with either six or eight people and they're boring.
"if you don't know about that..... Don't even considering talking. go watch 10000000hours of series and 500 books + comics so you can stand a conversation" and even then, most likely you won't be accepted as a fan because you don't have all the collectables from 400bc.
eSports. Particularly cs2 formerly known as csgo. I haven't played it since July 2019 due to my gaming PC passing away and being unable to afford a new one.
RuPaul's Drag Race for me.... For a show about dudes with fake boobies in dresses, people sure love to send death threats over the tiniest most imagined slights. P.s. I am talking about the fans, not homophobes on the outside.
I'm not a fan of the show at all, I don't care if dudes want boobs and dresses but I'm not entertained or interested. Even expressing something like that bhas gotten me shouted down before, the violence definitely is coming from inside the fan base.
I've been enjoying staying away from fandoms. It's funny when I really get into a series/franchise then like several months later I'll watch a video from a YouTuber I like and they'll just casually throw out how the fanbase for that thing is ultra toxic/annoying and/or filled with the biggest creeps imaginable.
I've got a coworker who loves Formula 1. She's seen me nerd out about my special interests with our students (mainly astronomy) and has told me often how much she wished she had someone to nerd out about Formula 1 with. I feel for her, but if most fans are bad news then maybe she's dodging a bullet?
A few days ago some dude I follow did a live stream of a big ultra bike race. Every now and then I went to tune in. To figure out what's going on, of course I checked the live chat.
Man was this an awful place. Half the people are not even able to read the pinned messages, and the other half is backseating a dude that rides 2000k in 3 days and gives everyone shit for the smallest mistake.
Most of the time, I've found more enjoyment in stuff when I interact with other fans. It can be fun to talk about things together. I've not run into much of the toxicity that I think often must people just assume there is.
They're hoping that someone can enjoy one single thing in their life without being told they're a garbage human being for supporting "X", or who didn't do "Y", or who is related to/was roommates with/worked with over the Z years the author(s) were alive.
It's like 7 degrees of Kevin Bacon except somebody somewhere thinks someone involved is a POS, and now you are too for liking it.
Rowling is alive and very active, though. This isn't a tenous connection by way of vague association, the author in question is (1) alive, (2) profits from buying their shit and (3) uses that money to make the world worse.
F1 fanbase is so terribly polarized these days. Especially on reddit. Apparently you can only like one driver and hate the rest but one the most - looking at you George.
I think a lot of this comes from the new 'fans' who only watch DTS and have no real clue or care about the history and development of the sport.
Now I must say as a follower for one 20 years, I don't like the new autodrive cars, I do hate MBS, and the direction the liberty media is going.
Edit: the thing I hate the most is that the removed the 3 decimal places on the timing sheets, but only for the main race. For P1, P2, P3 and qualifying it is still OK. That is the dumbest dumb down ever in the sport.
The Last of Us 2. There were some obviously heavy parts but I thought it was still good. Then I found the subreddit of people losing their shit over it and quickly left 😅
For sure the last of us 2 the fans of the 2nd game were absolutely awful. When the TV show did the second season seeing the fans of the game going online and harassing fans of the TV show and going after the actress who played Ellie absolutely disgusted me.
Definitely, I’m still excited for the next season and if there is a part 3 of the game but I’m definitely gonna avoid looking up anything or reading anything online about it.
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TheJesusaurus@piefed.ca · 77 pts · 1d
Rick and Morty
WanderWisley@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 1d
Definitely this! I lost my love of the show after the 4th season due to the fans.
Dozzi92@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 1d
Yeah, I kinda fell off around then as well. I started watching sometime around the end of season 2 airing, and I remember how fun and exciting it was. I'm not sure the show was meant to go on as long as it did. I think that's a big problem with things getting popular too, is this desire to keep things going past their expiration date.
Credit where it's due, Netflix does the limited series thing and I like that. Let's state from the beginning: this is it. Now, Netflix also just cancels shows it shouldn't, and that's massively disappointing, so debit where it's due too (that's an opposite of credit but obviously not the right one but I can't think of the word and I gotta wrap this thing up).
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 18h
I think in this case the word is deficit not debit
Dozzi92@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 17h
Thanks that's definitely the word. Just had bankcards in my head for some reason, and time was of the essence.
stoly@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 1d
What happened? I only lightly watched the show.
Zorque@lemmy.world · 41 pts · 1d
They turned into a pickle, funniest shit I ever seen.
stoly@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 1d
That’s when I stopped watching. It was so stupid that it just turned me off.
Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz · 21 pts · 1d
The joke was that there was no joke, Rick is just being an asshole and disappointing everyone around him. But between that and the shezuan sauce incident, I realized the fandom has literally zero media literacy, they're just clapping at shapes and colors.
Canconda@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 15h
Everyone's media literacy, reading comprehension, ability to appreciate nuance or capacity to consider multiple non-mutually-exclusive ideas in their head at once is vanishing.
It's actually so fucking depressing to see how many people who I agree with politically and ethically are also kind of stupid and seem to have peaked intellectually.
Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz · 1 pts · 10h
I don't know if its gotten worse, we should expect it to have gotten better now that people consume more media than ever.
If judging from my trump-supporting, boomer extended family playing Jimmy Hendrix's Star Spangeled Banner at a 4th of July cookout, it was always terrible.
These include people who are still mad at Jane Fonda and blame the vietnamese for defending themselves.
Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 6h
That, and the music episode (get schwifty?) are apparently wildly popular while also being the two worst episodes. Make it make sense.
BreakerSwitch@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 1d
A lot of folks have watched the show and come to the conclusion that it's an endorsement of their lifestyles which they view as similar to Rick at the start of the series, plus the extremely toxic behavior that comes along with the impression that you're better than everyone and your intelligence justifies any behavior you are criticized for
teslekova@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 18h
Yeah. Used to be like that. What a shitty way to live. Denying any need to change by claiming superior intelligence over the people suggesting change, even though you're desperately unhappy.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 18h
Are you kidding? I'm totally Jerry.
stoly@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 17h
Thanks. Sort of like MAGA light.
westingham@sh.itjust.works · 50 pts · 1d
Star Wars. It's not perfect, and sometimes bad, but avoiding the fanbase gives me peace.
7U5K3N@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 43 pts · 1d
No one hates star wars / Trek like star wars / Trek fans.
RustyShackleford@piefed.social · 22 pts · 1d
It’s not easy, but you can like them both and still dislike the fans.
snooggums@piefed.world · 10 pts · 1d
I find it extremely easy to like both and dislike the fans!
chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 1d
It’s the rule of 3! For both Star Wars / Trek, I only like 3 movies / series!
xspurnx@leminal.space · 1 pts · 16h
Which ones? [Hehe...]
chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 13h
I’m old school. For SW it’s the OG trilogy all the way. For Trek it’s TOS, TNG, and DS9!
john117@piefed.jmsquared.net · 3 pts · 1d
I actually liked the most recent star wars movie. there I said it.
Jaycifer@piefed.social · 5 pts · 22h
The Mandalorian and Grogu or Rise of Skywalker?
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 18h
The fucks a grogu
Jaycifer@piefed.social · 4 pts · 18h
Baby Yoda: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grogu
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 7h
That's not a baby yoga that's a glug shitto
ApathyTree@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 36 pts · 1d
Honestly, linux for me (yes I know where I am). Love the software and options, but holy shit is the fanbase incredibly opinionated and full of condescension about it. Also they don’t know how to shut the fuck up about it, and constantly bring it up where it doesn’t belong. Like its a personality trait to them or something.
Funkt4st1c@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 1d
For many, it is. Autism, hyperfixation, and passion are needed to do something like create an OS from scratch, pick and choose any of the 3 to then use it in an incomplete state.
Id argue we're finally at the point where you actually dont need any of those, just a willingness to learn and adapt
TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 21h
it's a tool for a job for me.
to them, it's a religion.
ninth_plane@lemmy.world · 31 pts · 1d
lemmy.world/c/formula1 is small enough that we occasionally acknowledge a race happened.
Sibshops@lemmy.myserv.one · 24 pts · 1d
Or liking things that doesn't have a big fan base works too. For instance, a lot of novels.
ICastFist@programming.dev · 17 pts · 1d
Meanwhile, when novels do have a relatively large fanbase, boy, better stay away from them
Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz · 7 pts · 1d
That is such a ravenclaw thing to say.
Brb, writing GRRM a letter asking him to finish writing my slop before he dies.
addie@feddit.uk · 4 pts · 1d
First two books of ASoI&F were pretty good, I thought. Then the rest were just him writing himself in circles, ever more slowly. Then the TV adaptation came out, to initially great acclaim, and then ended with a damp fart.
Yes, there were more problems with the end of the show than just his plot, or lack of it, but I can't see that the ending will be redeemed without substantial changes, and his skills as a writer don't really extend to "writing towards the desired ending".
I think if we do ever get a conclusion to the book series, it will be written by someone else; I believe he's left instructions to destroy all his notes and work-in-progress when he dies?
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 18h
Do you trust it to be more profitable to follow those instructions or to disobey them?
TheRealKuni@piefed.social · 2 pts · 1d
And yet the Brandon Sanderson fandom is pretty non-toxic.
mesamunefire@piefed.social · 2 pts · 18h
Ive found Dungeon Crawler Karl fans are really nice people.
Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it · 2 pts · 1d
Even if you interact with the fandom, you are certainly not doing it in public, be it on forum, Reddit, Lemmy or Discord, you will encour the risk of gettin flashed with either some strange images or see other things you don't wanna see and this get worse the bigger the fandom get
Secret_Music@piefed.blahaj.zone · 23 pts · 1d
Most 'nerd' stuff. Comic book movie discussion has gone to shit because people have become weird about it. When it's not manosphere bullshit, it's people expecting Endgame level quality and stakes for every single movie now, who would've shat on Iron Man if it came out today, and who need to be reminded of the absolute horse shit that we used to get. They're starting to rival the Star Wars fans in terms of being insufferable.
Outside of the cosy games spaces that I've been hanging around, all I ever hear from Gamers™ is some controversy about a female character being a game. Or gasp a black character. They're happy with the main protagonist being a woman if the jiggle psychics are set to max though.
And online at least, the alternative scene has gone to shit. People from the anti jock subcultures started listening to jocks with microphones on podcasts. People who grew up listening to Jonathan Davis singing about being called a "faget", went on to become people who call others "betas". Metal went from representing rebellion to representing people who go "stop making it political".
And so many 'punks' seem to have become Joe Rogan fans too. I've even had to argue with people calling me a "woke lefty" in fan spaces for The Clash. We all laughed when Joe Rogan said "conservative is the new punk" but it's an even bigger joke because half the people that took his word for it were punks.
rustyfish@piefed.world · 21 pts · 1d
Rick and Morty.
Fallout.
Star Wars.
Magic (except my friends).
Absolutely every single anime I ever watched.
Terraria has a unusually thirsty fanbase that never fails to disgust me.
Did I mention Fallout?
cantstopthesignal@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 1d
Hot Take: Fallout the show is mid. Every season the actors try to save the script, but it dies anyway.
rustyfish@piefed.world · 5 pts · 1d
I think I forgot to mention Fallout.
Evotech@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 1d
Silo better
Sidhean@piefed.social · 2 pts · 22h
Oh right, I had totally forgotten! I was wondering when 4 or 76 got so popular but the show fellout recently! That explains it pretty well lol.
absquatulate@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 16h
Care to elaborate on the Terraria fanbase? I never got into the game, always liked starbound more, but I could not get from them anything besides condescension regarding any other 2d-survival-whatchamacall-this-genre games. It's terraria or nothing else.
Muhup@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 1d
Warhammer/Warhammer 40k
Love the games an the lore but I wouldn't touch the fandom with a 10 foot pole. Some of the absolute worst degenerates in there...
CyberEgg@discuss.tchncs.de · 11 pts · 1d
My experience is 50/50. Half the fandom are smart enough to see the lore is mostly satire meant to be silly exaggeration, the other half has a power fantasy from different, but overlapping backgrounds (misogynist, racist, homophobic, etc).
Rolive@discuss.tchncs.de · 2 pts · 6h
People that consider the Imperium the good guys.
cobysev@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 1d
Sonic the Hedgehog for me. I love the franchise, but I stay clear of the fandom. So many weird people latch onto Sonic stuff and make it all icky and creepy. I guess that's what happens when a company like SEGA claims "Everything is canon."
VitoRobles@lemmy.today · 12 pts · 1d
Also perverts. I was absolutely obsessed with Sonic Archie comics and finding forums as a kid was how I learned about furry porn. Scarred and older, a decade later, saw how cool Sonic Mania was and wanted to interact with others. And there it was again... Pervert shit.
cobysev@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 19h
I've been mostly obsessed with the comics as well. I built a website just to track all the comics and arrange their covers in proper reading order.
It's out of date right now (I'm currently working to get it updated, actually), but all the Archie Sonic comics are listed in order. You can check it out here.
VitoRobles@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 16h
Hey this is really cool! It has like a nice retro website vibe!
People like you make the internet awesome!
Katana314@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 1d
I at least like that a few pieces of Sonic media lampshade this.
In one episode of Sonic Boom (a show designed to be watched high by adults) he’s kidnapped by an aardvark that’s a rabid fan.
“Oh! N-no, I wasn’t trying to escape, I was just…reading some of this fanfiction! Ooh. Sonamy, spicy!”
“Oh. Yeah, I don’t really even care for it, but it seems requisite for the readers.”
Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it · 6 pts · 1d
This is kinda funny for me because "Sega" is an Italian slang to say "masturbation" which seems rather fitting to the fandom
markz@suppo.fi · 3 pts · 20h
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/sega
Amazing. I will never see it the same.
Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it · 3 pts · 20h
Truly the most elegant language ✨
ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 23h
Skoolies for me. A few years ago I bought a used school bus and started converting it into a motorhome. I made an account at the main forum (skoolie.net) because there were people there that actually knew useful stuff, primarily about metalworking (which I'd never done before) and the mechanical aspects of bus ownership (which I still don't know shit about).
Surprisingly (or maybe not) skooliers heavily tend towards being right-wing, trump-loving, gun-toting, immigrant-hating wankers. There are exceptions but they always end up being driven away. The thought of going to one of the annual skoolie gatherings is nightmare fuel for me.
NABDad@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 20h
Years ago my dad bought an old school bus because he wanted to convert it into a motor home with private bathroom and a garage in the back for his motorcycle for trips to the Sturgis Motorcycle Rally.
Apart from the fact that he never got around to doing any work on the bus and eventually gave up and unloaded it on someone, your description would have been completely accurate.
ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 20h
Your dad did the right thing. I got mine 95% done at the cost of tens of thousands of dollars and arthritis basically everywhere, just for the honor of paying $100 a month to park it at a U-haul lot. I know how to weld and rivet now, just as useless as the bus.
JustEnoughDucks@slrpnk.net · 3 pts · 17h
Definitely useful skills if you ever need to fix any metal furniture or make a metal structure.
TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world · -3 pts · 21h
all the people i have known in metalwork or maker spacers were all far-left and kept injecting their politics and insecurity about being 'authentic' and 'cool' into everything. it's a major turn off.
i have no idea how heating up pieces of metal to merge them together or other stuff like that has anything to do with politics, but people can't help themselves. Also these spaces in my experience... were all well-off white people desperately trying to 'signal' they were not like 'white people'.
anyways, i take those kinda classes and hobby things at adult education centers and libraries and such... because no politics. a lot older crowd though but a lot less massive insecurity and injection of identity insecurity into everything. turns out the really cool people are the boring uncool ones.
hraegsvelmir@ani.social · 7 pts · 21h
This insecurity about being authentic has pervaded so many things, even absent any real political context. LIke people will suddenly whip out "You know, nachos aren't really authentic Mexican food, they're Tex-Mex cuisine." Okay, what do you expect me to do in that situation, spit it out and go "Ugh, that's disgusting!" Authentic or not, they're still delicious. I totally get pursuing authenticity when you're trying to preserve a culture and are worried it's under threat, but it gets brought into absolutely ridiculous contents, often by people who have no real basis or authority to be the arbiters of authenticity for what they're discussing in the first place as a way to try and make themselves seem more worldly.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 18h
What. Have you ever been to Texas? Queso is tex-mex. Nachos are something else. Queso is better.
hraegsvelmir@ani.social · 3 pts · 17h
Wasn't really a competition, just for illustrating a point. I've only passed through Texas for a layover, but honestly, Texas as a state has zero appeal to me. I'd rather just go to Mexico for better versions of pretty much anything in Texas that's remotely interesting to me, while avoiding a fair chunk of the things that make Texas so miserable a prospect to me in the first place.
Besides, Texans might have improved upon nachos at some point, but claiming you have a superior version doesn't invalidate that nachos have already been widely accepted as a Tex-Mex dish. "Nachos are a Tex-Mex dish" is the opening to the wiki article on them, with 8 different citations to back up that claim.
schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 20h
Alloys are intrinsically liberal. Keep metals pure!
wulrus@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 1d
It was so weird to study in STEM and meet other Star Trek fans in the cantina. Now there is something wrong with Wesley Crusher and I'm supposed to hate him and project that on the child actor, too? And when Jeri Ryan is nice enough to come all the way to a European convention, they yell "strip"? (At least they were disgusted as well about the latter, just reported others doing it.)
No thanks, I'll hang out with decent people.
TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 21h
I have no idea what you're talking about, but that's probably a good thing for me.
Sabin10@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 1d
Every few years I find a kpop act I like but holy shit, the fanbase is fucking horrible. I'd rather try getting into League again before I'd interact with those creatures.
chunes@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 19h
not interacting with people in general:
Mynameisallen@lemmy.zip · 13 pts · 1d
My exception to this rule is Pokémon ROM hacks, relatively small fan base though which helps
TheMinions@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 5 pts · 1d
I have found another.
Did you try Phoenix Red 2.0 yet? I’m also excited for the 2 demakes of Alola that are upcoming.
Mynameisallen@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 1d
I haven’t! I’m going through Elysium for the first time on an Rg34xx, feels sooooo cool.
The Aloha ones are like my most anticipated games on the horizon, not just for rom hacks but full stop! Lazarus was easily my favorite game of the year, I’m really trying not to do a 4th play through lol
TheMinions@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 1d
Lazarus was so good. I ended up throwing speed up on to shiny hunt all the static encounters towards the end of the game. Was a great time.
Plus I loved the Alolan Raichu buff. Surge Surfer creating an electric terrain + Choic Specs/Focus Sash meant that my Raichu was dominating. Just had to watch for the occasional sucker punch or pursuit haha.
I had fun with Odyssey, too. I’m not as excited for Odyssey 2, however. Not really sure why actually.
silver@das-eck.haus · 3 pts · 1d
Pokémon fans make the best Pokémon games and it's not even close
TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 22h
I don't understand what a fanbase is. Probably why I just enjoy stuff and don't really care about who else likes it though.
InputZero@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 17h
In the long long ago, in the before time, when a new manga, or anime became popular it wasn't long before the fanbase formed. These weren't your fanbases of today, these were communities to soak up everything there was to their favorite sgow. There was competition and cringe yes, but it had honor, there were boundaries. It was like this for decades.
Then Rick showed us how much he loves Szechuan Sauce and McDonald's thought Rick and Morty was any other fanbase. They were wrong. Now a fanbase is just another segment of the population which can be marketed to and have wealth extracted. Another thing that can be packaged up into a product or video to maximize how much of your money or attention they get.
We're Rick and Morty or McDonald's to blame? No, they were only doing what everyone had been doing for decades. No, the world is different. The shows are different. The whole business is different. We the fans are different. We have to take our favorite thing as far as it will go to get as much as we can, boundaries be damned.
Now I follow the same path you do I...
Boozilla@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 16h
That really did seem like a major cultural turning point, and I was watching it from the outside.
TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 49m
I never saw Ricky and Morty until Season 5, so I missed all of that.
Rooster326@programming.dev · 12 pts · 1d
Lemmy?
Wait... Fuck
wowwoweowza@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 21h
I’m interacting with you directly because I’m not the best interactor and I need the practice. Thanks for the reminder.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 18h
You interact great dude. You need practice kissing. Now c'm'ere a minute
wowwoweowza@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 18h
Chuckled.
M137@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 1d
The older I get the better I am at finding groups of people and fanbases where this doesn't apply. I'm in a spot with music, cooking, visual arts, science and more both IRL and online that are just nice. And it's not about lack of different opinions and being in a bubble, I just focus on and stay with people and groups who are nice about it.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 18h
Yeah, it's more about individuals. I think we've found a lot of good ones here on Lemmy
Njos2SQEZtPVRhH@piefed.social · 11 pts · 1d
Being fan of the thing, not the fanbase.
LaLuzDelSol@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 1d
Amazing Digital Circus for me. Sad that I know people who didnt watch the show just because they wanted to avoid the fans.
bort@sopuli.xyz · 4 pts · 1d
I have never met ADC fans outside of cons, and there they seemed very fun.
LaLuzDelSol@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 1d
The only fans I ever met irl were at the movie theater for the finale, and they were cool. The online community is, from what I've heard, pretty unwell.
sen@lemmy.zip · -3 pts · 1d
A friend of my fiancee is a fan and put an episode on when we were over once.
I'm autistic but I'm not that fucking autistic. It takes a lot to make me cringe, but that show does it every other line, and seeing the friend squee at this strange rapey clownshow was almost enough for me to ask if we were sure about including them in the wedding party.
Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz · 9 pts · 1d
Rapey??
LaLuzDelSol@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 21h
Yeah what the hell there is no actual or implied sexual violence in the show. Or sex at all for that matter, thats explicitly stated
Flames5123@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 1d
Let people enjoy things. Geeze. It’s a great show. I only ever watched the show with my friends.
bort@sopuli.xyz · 4 pts · 21h
it's existential horror with absurd comedy elements. Pretty much the definition of "not for everyone", so it's not surprising some (most?) people strongly dislike it.
sen@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 16h
Yup. I recognize it's not for me, and I recognize that had it not been for that cringe fan pushing it on us I might have given it a proper chance (much like Rick & Morty, a show I will never watch but still absolutely despise because of the fans).
Phantom_Feline17@lemmy.zip · 10 pts · 1d
Gaming fandoms. I personally love gaming but avoid fandoms associated with it like the plague.
Secret_Music@piefed.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 1d
Same. The cosy games fandom tends to be alright though. Less neckbeards and people that hammer their own faces.
Phantom_Feline17@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 1d
Im not sure about that as i havent interacted with that side of gaming. Strategy game fans are pretty chill though.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 18h
Hey my musical artform is all about harmering me own face what you got against us
Zephyr@sh.itjust.works · 9 pts · 15h
There's so many bands I love and I don't even have a clue what they look like much less know anything about their fan base
saltesc@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 1d
Probably a good idea, OP. The F1 fanbase has become a circus in the past decade. A lot of newcomers bringing their tribalism mentality of other sports along with them, not understanding how F1 works.
If you actually do want to get involved in a motorsport fanbase, GTs. But watching the NLS stream with chat while Max is in a team can be fatiguing. 100+ teams on track over many classes, so effectively 16 races going on, and every five mins his fanbase, that has no idea what they're watching, start arguing about F1. Some genuinely say it's their first GT race and ask a lot of questions, the fanbase is thrilled and explains everything with welcoming arms.
WanderWisley@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 1d
Definitely true. I’m a 43 year old guy who’s loved F1 since the 90’s and living in a small rural town I didn’t even have anyone to talk to about F1 in person. Fortunately, but in the end, unfortunately there is a coworker on a different crew. That is a big Formula 1 fan, but he is a Max fan and I by fan I mean one of “those” Max fans. He is very short tempered about any race that Max doesn’t win and he is still convinced that McLaren cheated last year to win. And also sadly he is very racist towards Lewis and Yuki so I don’t interact with him at all.
saltesc@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 21h
Oh they just don't get F1 yet.
Talk about the mid-pack teams only with him. We all know the good shit is with Alpine, RB, Haas, and crossing fingers for Williams and Audi. Following one driver and one team, may as well just put the 4 min YT highlights on instead of watch the actual racing.
Maybe remind him the Max has no trophies. They all go back to the team after the race.
Gerudo@lemmy.zip · 9 pts · 1d
My god the F1 crowd is awful. There is no debate on rules or issues, there is only "I'm right and your a fucking idiot for disagreeing". I want to get more into GT3 as I've always preferred it in racing sims, but it's kind of hard to follow comparatively.
WanderWisley@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 1d
For sure I don’t think F1 is gonna change for the better anytime soon with the fan base. But yes there are definitely other options to watch. WEC is goated right now and WRC is as well too. The WRC needs some new regulation because it’s slowing becoming off road F1 in terms of cost. Super GT is always has a special place in my heart too.
TheFrirish@tarte.nuage-libre.fr · 2 pts · 1d
Everyone is saying this fanbase bad or this fanbase bad it seems they have forgotten football exists and Liverpool
mojofrododojo@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 1d
how do you enjoy this stuff knowing that the impacts of every gallon of gas guzzled for 'just funsies' is dooming our children's environment?
just curious.
WanderWisley@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 1d
Yes that is very important to me as well. If I’m honest I just turn my brain off while I watch it. I know that’s not the answer you are probably looking for but it’s a small enjoyment in my life with all the craziness and negativity in the world.
mojofrododojo@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1d
racing EV's would be more exciting. especially unlimited.
I fucking hate the culture that normalizes rushing headlong into our own destruction, not just idling along, but mashing the gas into the floorboards
hraegsvelmir@ani.social · 2 pts · 20h
Formula-E has been a thing for a few years, and this year notably included a mandate to drastically increase the reliance on the battery units over the ICEs for power in F1. In either case, it's not really there yet, but I'm looking forward to the day that it does get there.
Formula E had (I don't know if it's been rectified since) a pretty significant issue with the batteries just not being able to last for F1 race distances on several tracks. They haven't got the top speed and endurance at those speeds that the F1 hybrids deliver, and because it's a racing sport, you can't just make the battery larger to add capacity without a significant impact on your race pace, nor can they just pop into the pits and patiently wait for a rapid charge to finish topping off their batteries.
That aside, I can't imagine Formula E really manages to deal much better with the major source of pollution and emissions for F1, which is shipping a full track worth of cars, drivers and support crew around the world many times a year. Of course, in that regard, I don't know how many of the Formula E drivers are actual pulling in the sort of money to be owning and maintaining private jets for this purpose, and at least one of the F1 drivers has sold his off. I remember Lewis Hamilton used to get a lot of flack for telling people to go vegan to save the planet while using a private jet 20 odd times a year, and I guess he finally felt silly enough about that contradiction to sell it off.
Edited, realized my comment on F1's new power unit rules was poorly written and confusing at first.
mojofrododojo@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 13h
ok you're right, bin it all. it's a silly waste of resources.
hraegsvelmir@ani.social · 1 pts · 9h
Nowhere did I suggest binning it, and I support their eventual transition into being able to leave even hybrids behind. You stated "racing EV’s would be more exciting" and I just pointed out some of the issues that currently prevent it from being more widely adopted and more popular with motorsport fans at large. Otherwise, I doubt you'll find many people to agree that a fully EV Indy 500 was comparable in impact of the event as it exists now if the vehicles could only do 2/3 of the distance with a car capable of less than half the power of the machines it's meant to replace. An F1 car outputs 1000hp, while a Formula E car can do a touch under 500hp. This isn't a knock on them, and I fully expect them to keep improving, but this is an edge case wear current EVs aren't there yet.
smeg@feddit.uk · 3 pts · 1d
I've not crunched the numbers myself but the actual racing probably produces a lot less pollution than the logistics of teams and fans travelling to each race, and given that there are only 20-odd races per year all the fans travelling around the world probably causes less overall pollution than something like football where there are loads of big matches every week.
Interestingly one of the purposes/benefits of f1 is (supposed to be) pioneering new technology. For instance, the fuel is (supposedly) now sustainability produced, and I think a lot of the hybrid engine tech developed for f1 then made its way to road cars. Of course most of the biggest sponsors are oil companies looking to throw away the electric tech now, so who knows what the fuck the future looks like...
mojofrododojo@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 13h
meh. none of this is a benefit worthy of the 60 years of hyping up pollution for funsies.
bin it all.
mojofrododojo@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 13h
it's not worth the pollution.
period. also, you can't just 'nasa' your way out of it, cute tho.
square@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 1d
Technologies pioneered in F1 have made their way into our lives over the decades, not just in the cars we drive, but in fields as varied as pediatric surgery and air traffic control. Every car you've ever driven was more efficient due to something that was bleeding edge in F1 years earlier.
I'm not an expert so I couldn't say how but I would be amazed if their current work with hybrid drivetrains don't improve EVs.
Yeah, F1 burns a lot of gas, but calling it "just funsies" is short sighted. If you add up it's effects over the years it's a net positive and it's not even close.
mojofrododojo@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 13h
bullshit, that's exactly what it is. stop acting like idiots racing in circles is some kind of science program for the benefit of the proletariat, that's absolute garbage - these teams are sponsored by some of the worst brands (WOO MARLBORO!) - to burn gas for ENTERTAINMENT.
shortsighted lol. net positive pfft.
what delusions
arbitrary_sarcasm@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 1d
MMA. I've been training for 4 years and I really enjoy it. But I've only ever watched 2 UFC fights on TV and never really interacted with the fans.
Fizz@lemmy.nz · 3 pts · 1d
You're smart. Dont join the ufc fan base you'll lose so many braincells.
itsgroundhogdayagain@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 21h
I watch a lot of the pay per views or whatever they are now and that's it. No websites, no TV reality show, no merch, no fans.
Trampampoline@sh.itjust.works · 9 pts · 1d
Pipe tobacco.
Love the hobby, rusticness of it, 'the art', if you will, but man is the entire community full of grumpy old incensitive conservatives. There are exceptions to the rule like a few dudes at my local shop, but for the most part, I keep to myself about it.
CareHare@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 1d
Hey I'm really interested in getting into pipe tobacco.
Alas I already smoke, but what would be the best way to start off? Find a good local shop and get lucky or is there a better way?
Trampampoline@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 1d
My first suggestion is to head to youtube. Pipe knowledge is rather universal. Hobbiton Piper is a great person to start with, as is Timberdrifter and Muttonchop Piper.
There are many different pipe blends and types, but primarily they're split between Aromatics, English and Virginias or Virginia blends. Oriental and Balkan blends I'd consider more niche. Personally, I like Virginias and the blends therof, VA/Perique and Burley is my jam, but I'd suggest starting with Aromatics.
As for types of pipes, stick to Corncobs starting out, they're not only my personal favorite to smoke, but they're cheap and you can have one for every day of the week for not much dough. Grab a nice briar once you're sure you're into the hobby.
Then all you have to do is find a calm spot and a good book, and away you go.
roserose56@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 1d
Did you guys know that there is a community called tobacco@lemmy.sdf.org ? A a very good place to discuss more.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 18h
Thanks for the warning. I was thinking about getting a Gandalf for the weedums but you know how communities work
Trampampoline@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 18h
Weed in a tobacco (wooden) pipe tends to be a fruitless cause, imo. You make a lot of mess and gunk and the high temps weed burns at runs the risk of burning through the bowl.
Trust me, I love me some devil's lettuce, just trying to make sure you don't spend $100-$150 on a nice pearwood churchwarden then burn a hole through it lol.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 7h
My vape is in cherry and it smells delicious
13igTyme@piefed.social · 8 pts · 1d
This likely applies to 99 out of every 100 subjects/hobbies.
Dozzi92@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1d
Yeah, anytime I was fortunate enough to get into something before the wave, it was awesome, and then popularity murdered it. It's just the way she goes. So now I consume whatever it is I'm interested in and just avoid it in the public realm, and it's fine.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 18h
The last big thing to hit my niche is those white plastic tables you get at the big box store and no I'm not joking. The next big thing will be the book I publish I hope.
Boozilla@sh.itjust.works · 7 pts · 16h
I attempt to only talk about these things with IRL friends. When our opinions disagree, we're all nice about it. When we agree, it's really fun to geek out on it together.
Even when we disagree, it can be fun to hear the reasons why. Because we don't attack each other over personal preferences.
But trying to do that online? Nah. Tis a silly place.
SippyCup@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 2h
I have a group of friends who have very distant opinions on the types of things we like, and having friendly arguments over these things is one of the highlights of my week.
I daren't even enter a forum for any of those hobbies online.
I recently discovered that a band I like not only has a subreddit dedicated to hating it, there's another subreddit dedicated to making fun of the other subreddit. This is in addition to the main subreddit which, can you believe? Is filled with drama over the other two, in addition to gushing over the artist who, quite frankly, is only ok. It's kinda niche so they get a decent following just by filling in an undeserved market.
But if this artist ran over a nun after robbing a bank, it wouldn't even make front page news in LA.
mursejoy@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 15h
That’s the difference with political discourse today. You had an obligation to be nice to people in fear of getting punched. Too many people cower behind keyboards with big opinions today because they know if they acted like that in public they would be hit.
teslasaur@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 1d
I don't like fan bases at all. They always manage to make things weird that doesn't need to be weird. Fan fiction is culprit number one. Make your own thing, instead of making someone else's thing, but worse.
I can enjoy the things i like without needing to flaunt it obnoxiously.
Guitar/Metal, spider-man and Donald Duck comics, Harry potter-books, sports(just sports in general, exceptional achievements are exiting to watch).
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 18h
You have to walk before you can run. Like, I eventually made my own thing, but I couldn't have if I didn't learn from masters first
teslasaur@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 18h
Sure. But why publish it for everyone else to suffer?
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 7h
Because [me] [music] looks pretty cool to play, it just takes three to four people to do it right. I think. I haven't tested the method with the largest instrument I have played, so until I do I won't know if it's three or four.
Normal people do it with either six or eight people and they're boring.
Jestzer@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 1d
Undertale.
vogi@piefed.social · 5 pts · 18h
That is a really creative use of the meme template!
roserose56@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 1d
"if you don't know about that..... Don't even considering talking. go watch 10000000hours of series and 500 books + comics so you can stand a conversation" and even then, most likely you won't be accepted as a fan because you don't have all the collectables from 400bc.
ironpangolin29@lemmy.ca · 5 pts · 17h
eSports. Particularly cs2 formerly known as csgo. I haven't played it since July 2019 due to my gaming PC passing away and being unable to afford a new one.
I still watch all the majors.
Akasazh@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 15h
Me2. I played a bit after playing a lot of tf2, and found out I wasn't sweaty enough for it.
I love watching it, though, it's one of the most watchable esports (dota2 or overwatch are way too busy for me)
I do tend to not mingle in hltv threads though, as per OP
kablez@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 1d
RuPaul's Drag Race for me.... For a show about dudes with fake boobies in dresses, people sure love to send death threats over the tiniest most imagined slights. P.s. I am talking about the fans, not homophobes on the outside.
doingthestuff@lemy.lol · 0 pts · 1d
I'm not a fan of the show at all, I don't care if dudes want boobs and dresses but I'm not entertained or interested. Even expressing something like that bhas gotten me shouted down before, the violence definitely is coming from inside the fan base.
kablez@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 1d
Buddy I think you're in the wrong chat lol
Avicenna@programming.dev · 5 pts · 1d
come join the circle jerk
Ryanmiller70@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 1d
I've been enjoying staying away from fandoms. It's funny when I really get into a series/franchise then like several months later I'll watch a video from a YouTuber I like and they'll just casually throw out how the fanbase for that thing is ultra toxic/annoying and/or filled with the biggest creeps imaginable.
Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 17h
I've got a coworker who loves Formula 1. She's seen me nerd out about my special interests with our students (mainly astronomy) and has told me often how much she wished she had someone to nerd out about Formula 1 with. I feel for her, but if most fans are bad news then maybe she's dodging a bullet?
WanderWisley@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 15h
Definitely dodged a bullet.
Nosebear@lemmy.ml · 4 pts · 18h
A few days ago some dude I follow did a live stream of a big ultra bike race. Every now and then I went to tune in. To figure out what's going on, of course I checked the live chat.
Man was this an awful place. Half the people are not even able to read the pinned messages, and the other half is backseating a dude that rides 2000k in 3 days and gives everyone shit for the smallest mistake.
WanderWisley@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 15h
I know a few people who are really into mountain bikes and rock climbing they are extremely big assholes and gatekeepers.
Holytimes@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 9h
Rock climbing is famous for how gate keepy and assholey the sport is.
BeerStainedBunny@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 4 pts · 1d
This was Homestuck for me. I liked the fanart and whatnot but I'd never actually interact with anyone
WanderWisley@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 1d
I feel that the 2 things that will always ruin something is the fans and cost of merch.
OpenStars@discuss.online · 3 pts · 1d
I didn't even know that people discussed Homestuck, therefore I loved it! 🤪
DakRalter@thelemmy.club · 4 pts · 1d
Sims2 in the late 2000s. Absolute drama fest, the popcorn didn't stop flowing.
AstralPath@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 1d
Please elaborate. I've never heard of this.
DakRalter@thelemmy.club · 3 pts · 22h
No, no! That way madness lies!
You like madness? Okay. If you really want to explore the rabbit hole, here are some names:
Pescado/PMBD, TSR (not the Gary Gygax one), Coconut, Atwa.
http://paysites.mustbedestroyed.org/hate/
http://paysites.mustbedestroyed.org/legal/
I think most of Coconut's blog is lost, but there wasn't enough popcorn for all the shenanigans on there.
Some of it is on wayback:
https://web.archive.org/web/20130117165948/http://tsr.mustbedestroyed.org/?p=1608
JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 19h
Stealing this
QuinnyCoded@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 23h
ENA, kinda? I look at fanart and memes on Pinterest once in a while but not anything else 🙇♀️
ImminentOrbit@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 16h
Most of the time, I've found more enjoyment in stuff when I interact with other fans. It can be fun to talk about things together. I've not run into much of the toxicity that I think often must people just assume there is.
cb900f_bodhi@fedinsfw.app · 3 pts · 15h
MotoGP. I've never met or interacted with anyone else who enjoys it. I freaking love it
zebidiah@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 15h
Ain't nothing lonelier in the world than a canadian MotoGP fan....
thoughtfuldragon@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 1d
people who don't know me and never have to interact with me be like
DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 1d
I'm sure there a plenty of people who enjoy Harry Potter, who've never heard of the controversy.
And, I hope they never do. Let people enjoy things.
Go ahead and downvote me now.
DonPiano@feddit.org · 4 pts · 1d
You're hoping for people to unknowingly support a transphobic activist? For the sake of enjoying a mediocre book series? Odd priorities.
Rooster326@programming.dev · 0 pts · 1d
They're hoping that someone can enjoy one single thing in their life without being told they're a garbage human being for supporting "X", or who didn't do "Y", or who is related to/was roommates with/worked with over the Z years the author(s) were alive.
It's like 7 degrees of Kevin Bacon except somebody somewhere thinks someone involved is a POS, and now you are too for liking it.
DonPiano@feddit.org · 2 pts · 46m
Rowling is alive and very active, though. This isn't a tenous connection by way of vague association, the author in question is (1) alive, (2) profits from buying their shit and (3) uses that money to make the world worse.
sam_the_tech@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 1d
Let me in!
ParadoxSeahorse@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 1d
Tfw you realise the country you’re living in has its own fandom for something and they’re ridiculously welcoming
FrankDeath@infosec.pub · 3 pts · 1d
This is the way.
IEatDaFeesh@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1d
A lot of it is either power scaling or gooning for stories. For tech it's a lot of gatekeeping and trolls. Not worth it most of the time.
VitoRobles@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 1d
I watched Dropout and it was kinda interesting.
Then I joined the fandom, asked a question, and my god, what toxic motherfuckers.
anarchy79@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 15h
F1 fans seem like a pretty fun crowd though. I may be wrong. I don't really watch... People doing things.
WanderWisley@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 15h
With F1 fans it’s like a like football/soccer there is a fine line between a fan and a asshole.
stumu415@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 1d
F1 fanbase is so terribly polarized these days. Especially on reddit. Apparently you can only like one driver and hate the rest but one the most - looking at you George. I think a lot of this comes from the new 'fans' who only watch DTS and have no real clue or care about the history and development of the sport. Now I must say as a follower for one 20 years, I don't like the new autodrive cars, I do hate MBS, and the direction the liberty media is going.
Edit: the thing I hate the most is that the removed the 3 decimal places on the timing sheets, but only for the main race. For P1, P2, P3 and qualifying it is still OK. That is the dumbest dumb down ever in the sport.
WanderWisley@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1d
Yep definitely as an old fan of F1 there is definitely a line between new and old fans.
Prairie_Madness@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1d
The Last of Us 2. There were some obviously heavy parts but I thought it was still good. Then I found the subreddit of people losing their shit over it and quickly left 😅
WanderWisley@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 1d
For sure the last of us 2 the fans of the 2nd game were absolutely awful. When the TV show did the second season seeing the fans of the game going online and harassing fans of the TV show and going after the actress who played Ellie absolutely disgusted me.
Prairie_Madness@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1d
Yeah it was crazy. Almost cult like behavior
WanderWisley@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 15h
Definitely, I’m still excited for the next season and if there is a part 3 of the game but I’m definitely gonna avoid looking up anything or reading anything online about it.