Las Vegas Mayor Shelley Berkley issued a heartfelt plea to Canadian visitors this week, acknowledging the city’s tourism-dependent economy is suffering from a dramatic decline in international visitors, particularly from Canada, which represents the city’s largest international market.
“As the mayor of Las Vegas, I’m telling everybody in Canada, please come. We love you, we need you, and we miss you,” Berkley said during a press conference this week, where she addressed the multiple challenges facing the entertainment capital’s tourism industry.
The mayor’s latest comments echo concerns she first raised in an August press conference, where she painted a stark picture of the tourism decline.
“International travel is way down. People are not coming to the United States,” Berkley said last month. “’
Great yet ?
225 Comments
Witchfire@lemmy.world · 267 pts · 330d
Lol get fucked. Sent with love from Canada.
spinne@sh.itjust.works · 109 pts · 330d
Ohhh, oh no! We need your tourism toonies in Las Vegas! We had no idea just how much Canadians spent on American stuff like bourbon and vacations! Ohh no, we're so sorry for those silly things we said, like threatening your sovereignty and being all condescending and dismissive.
Echoing your sentiment from the middle of America. Get fucked! Begging for visitors like that before doing anything to make amends, ugh.
Taldan@lemmy.world · 58 pts · 330d
And you just know Trump didn't learn any lesson. He 100% would do it again. I don't blame Canadians in the slightest bit. Honestly I'm happy they're voting with their wallets
homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 330d
That's a given. He's a demented narcissist.
thelivefive@startrek.website · 7 pts · 329d
We've proven most of us Americans don't have spines but I'm glad our northern neighbors can still stand up for themselves.
Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de · 1 pts · 311d
i mean, how has he been even remotely negatively affected? he made no mistake, he's just an absolute psychopath who merrily uses the people.
fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com · -4 pts · 330d
While I get it, she is a Democrat who is likely a fan of what's going on as much as you are.
M0oP0o@mander.xyz · 9 pts · 330d
Oh, I did not realize democrats where no longer american. If when a democrat was in power maga people where considered so, then in the current situation I will hold all americans to the actions of their nation.
Don't like it? Tough. Its the same way americans have treated everyone in the world, so enjoy some of your own medicine.
Oh you want to say that the dems are "fine" and "nothing can be done"? Look at Nepal, and grow a spine. But don't expect the world to separate one group of americans from the rest without actions done to prove such.
walden@wetshav.ing · 2 pts · 329d
In the context of leopardsatemyface the mayor's political leanings are quite relevant. It could even be said this whole post isn't relevant to the community.
But yeah, keep on with your singular attitude.
fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com · 2 pts · 329d
I don't have a singular altitude, I'm not sure why you think I would. I merely stating that a rep who has been public about her opinions on the current state of affairs is probably not the best candidate to attack.Edit: Appologies, I thought this was a response to me.
M0oP0o@mander.xyz · 1 pts · 329d
Oh, did the mayor take a stance counter to the current administration? No? Did she just ask the world to keep coming anyway and support her city? Yes?
Seems to me that like most americans she is towing the national party line while wondering why the rest of the world stops supporting the us, just hoping the D beside her name will give her allies. How is this not comeuppance?
fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com · 4 pts · 329d
Yes, she has. She has publicly talked about her position as coming from an immigrant family.
grindemup@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 329d
That's a fair point, and I found a source for it. It sounds like she is specifically complaining about the National Guard deployment, because of her immigrant background. That's great. I would like her to push for things which are virtuous even if she isn't personally connected. For example, stand up for Canada's sovereignty and decry the threats that the federal government has made, instead of just begging Canadians to come and give her city money.
M0oP0o@mander.xyz · -2 pts · 329d
How is coming from an immigrant family relevant? Most people in north America come from immigrant families (unless you implying that the real fascists are natives).
chunes@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 329d
Big words coming from a country almost as fucked up as the US.
M0oP0o@mander.xyz · 1 pts · 329d
Rare for an american even admit that another nation exists. Look at you go!
fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com · 0 pts · 330d
That was a lot of inferring.
M0oP0o@mander.xyz · 5 pts · 329d
Yeah almost as much as assuming that a mayor with a D beside their name means something to the rest of the world.
fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com · -2 pts · 329d
Not really. I, unlike you, read up on the person mentioned in the article. From an immigrant family, and critical of what's happening right now.
You also assume my family and friends are all US-based, for which you would also be wrong.
It's not my fault you want to rag on the US without reading. I'm guessing by the responses you are American despite playing the world view, but if I'm wrong, I'm sure your country has left and right parties, too, so don't claim to be ignorant to D vs R.
The fact remains that there is a lot to complain about in the US that isn't someone wishing things were better.
grindemup@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 329d
I looked up this mayor too. I can't find much criticism of the federal admins policies. What I do find is that she is an active supporter of Israel, she voted to invade Iraq, and she has been named as one of the US' most corrupt representatives.
So, maybe you can reflect a bit on why people aren't very ecstatic that a politician is a Democrat. As far as I'm concerned, she has aligned herself with the leopard-eating party by begging Canadians to be complicit instead of pushing back against the federal admin.
M0oP0o@mander.xyz · 1 pts · 329d
Not american.
TommySoda@lemmy.world · 178 pts · 330d
Imagine treating your friends like garbage and then being surprised when they don't wanna hang out anymore. My country literally threatened to invade both of our closest neighbors and friends and are now shocked that they hate us. Americans are the neighbor that constantly blasts music with their windows open and steals everyone's shit and then bitches when they don't get invited to neighborhood parties. The man-child of the Americas.
fartographer@lemmy.world · 63 pts · 330d
Shut up and fuck off, TommySoda!
I was right to yell at TommySoda; they don't visit me anymore ever since I told them to fuck off. The dirty non-visiting bastard...
edgemaster72@lemmy.world · 50 pts · 330d
Please come back TommySoda and teach me how to do manufacturing so that my threats and tariffs can hurt both of us instead of just me. I probably won't arrest you a second time.
samus12345@sh.itjust.works · 17 pts · 330d
(TommySoda was promptly shipped off to a gulag after foolishly venturing into the US)
FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca · 28 pts · 330d
Trump and his supporters are so delusional, they thought threatening to annex other countries was a compliment
homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 330d
Well it made them feel like their pee pees were big for a little while, so they liked that.
Because we're led by incompetent morons whose daddies didn't love them.
MushuChupacabra@lemmy.world · 133 pts · 330d
Sorry, but your federal government snatches people off the streets and sends them to concentration camps. We know of at least one Canadian citizen that was kidnapped by ICE, who then died in their custody.
This is in addition to your president threatening to annex us, and starting a trade war for no discernible reason.
No, I will not be visiting. A regime change won't help either.
It will never go back to the way things were, and that's on you collectively.
Jesusaurus@lemmy.world · 52 pts · 330d
But wait! There's more! You can also receive a free deportation to a partner country of our choosing regardless of your country of origin!
CircaV@lemmy.ca · 10 pts · 330d
And they’ll jail/deport/unalive you if you’re gay, trans, Brown, Black, Indigenous, a woman, not MAGA.
humanspiral@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 329d
There is genuine freedom to choose the partner country.... though
Fine print on the choices: Uganda, Swaziland, or El Salvador.
WanderingThoughts@europe.pub · 26 pts · 330d
That's going to be generational trauma. Trust will have to be built with the youth, as adults have already said no.
MushuChupacabra@lemmy.world · 29 pts · 330d
Ending this regime is meaningless if the machinery that enabled it remains intact. The ICE agents that are lustily performing their duties will still live there, and will absolutely vote for more of the same.
There's a segment of the population that still won't get off their asses to vote as though their way of life depended on it.
Passage of time alone, is woefully inadequate to repair what was vandalized.
HumanOnEarth@lemmy.ca · 8 pts · 329d
My kids don't believe me that Canada and the United States used to be friends. Maybe their kids will consider it.
givesomefucks@lemmy.world · 92 pts · 330d
Gee...
Wonder why people wouldn't think Vegas is safe...
https://www.reviewjournal.com/news/politics-and-government/las-vegas/mayor-says-las-vegas-is-not-a-sanctuary-city-3316441/
Like, she acts like people can't just look up what she was saying six months ago...
Why risk going to Vegas when a drunk and disordly could cause you to be held by ICE for months? Even if you legally crossed the border, ICE is detaining actual US citizens too.
Anyone with shitty enough risk management for that to seem like a safe bet, either isn't a gambler or already lost all their money on other stupid bets.
SirMaple__@lemmy.ca · 87 pts · 330d
Gerudo@lemmy.zip · 18 pts · 330d
I wish I was Canadian just so I could use this.
MehBlah@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 330d
Just channel Letterkenny.
Zahille7@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 330d
hanrahan@slrpnk.net · 2 pts · 329d
Pitter patter, lets get at her!
Rusty@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 329d
I'll grant you the title of a honorary Canadian, so you can use it. You can anoint yourself with maple syrup at your earliest convenience.
newthrowaway20@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 330d
Honk
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world · 68 pts · 330d
So much of Nevada is a handful of mobbed up white nationalists and ultra-conservative Zionists profiteering off the sweet and tears of a migrant Latino working class. The city is a hive of scum and villainy kept afloat by the hard work of the large, active, and occasionally quite radical labor left.
If it wasn't fully immersed in US military bases and California Techie Fascists, it could be ground zero for a full blown socialist movement. Instead, it's just a pit where natural resources go to burn, so that a few dozen oligarchs can be billionaires and a few million service sector workers can enjoy above average wages.
Maybe we just push the whole thing off the Hoover Dam already.
robocall@lemmy.world · 66 pts · 330d
Most of the comments are talking about ICE and Canadians disliking the current American regime, which is true. But also Vegas isn't fun anymore. It's so overpriced for what it is. The ruthless corporate nickel and diming exploitation has ruined Vegas as a destination.
If the mayor of Las Vegas wants people to visit, instead of begging Canadians to come back, try telling MGM and Caesars to entice visitors with some deals and value for their money.
Bebopalouie@lemmy.ca · 39 pts · 330d
It’s ridiculously overpriced there now.
A high chance of being shipped to an Alligator Auschwitz Concentration (soon to be death) Camp and treated like what happened to the South Koreans. No thanks.
Also you americans seem to have forgotten that your fascist child rapist president threatened to annex Canada and continues to do so.
Get bent.
ConstantPain@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 330d
CluckN@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 330d
Yeah I agree on it being overpriced. Visited Vegas last year and it was rough.
Cevilia@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 329d
Stamau123@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 330d
Best I can do is a giant stupid sphere you can gawk at and a tunnel to nowhere
Buddahriffic@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 329d
Yeah, for me, the current political situation means I wouldn't go there even if everything was free.
And the current Vegas pricing means I wouldn't go there even if it was safe.
Though even if it was free and safe, it would still require some thought.
Jaysyn@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 330d
Vegas was enshittified before the web.
Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca · 56 pts · 329d
Here is my most Canadian reaction.
Bwahahahahahaaaaa... No.
Et pour l'autre langue officielle:
Honhonhonghonhooon... Non.
lemmy_outta_here@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 329d
Je t’ai upvoté dans les deux langues
jenesaisquoi@feddit.org · 11 pts · 329d
Merci pour respecter l'autre langue!
cdnwaffleiron@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 329d
D_C@sh.itjust.works · 47 pts · 330d
We need you...r money!! And we miss you...r money!!
some_kind_of_guy@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 329d
CircaV@lemmy.ca · 46 pts · 330d
Fuck off America. 🇨🇦’s not coming back. You’re too dumb to even know why. 🖕🖕🖕
Mortoc@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 329d
We know why and the majority of us are depressed about it. But yeah, do not come here until the US remembers that we're part of a global community. We're not gonna get better without some hardship first.
favoredponcho@lemmy.zip · 6 pts · 329d
voodooattack@lemmy.world · 44 pts · 330d
This is what I read
Bebopalouie@lemmy.ca · 15 pts · 330d
Like a fascist american is going to actually care about anybody but themselves.
It’s nothing but give me money whining.
Go back to being a desert. Be better for all concerned.
samus12345@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 330d
I mean, it's Vegas.
MyOpinion@lemmy.today · 40 pts · 330d
Too bad MAGAts have chased away people from entering this country.
Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca · 39 pts · 330d
Why would I want to visit any city in that fascist shit hole when there is an entire world of free countries to visit.
Jaysyn@lemmy.world · 39 pts · 330d
Have the day Nevada voted for.
rustydrd@sh.itjust.works · 36 pts · 330d
Aw gee, that sounds like a really specific problem that would have really specific cause and solution, I wonder what it could be.
mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca · 35 pts · 330d
you guys are having a nation-wide hunt for people who aren't mourning a neo-nazi supporting piece of shit the way you want them to, and trying to ruin their lives.
I'm gonna stay away, thanks. finish taking out the trash first
samus12345@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 330d
It's actually very generous to say that there's any chance whatsoever you'd come here again, whether we get our shit together or not. I wouldn't.
selkiesidhe@sh.itjust.works · 32 pts · 330d
Fuck Vegas. You get what you voted for, morons.
DarkFuture@lemmy.world · 31 pts · 329d
Lol.
Did they think owning the libs was going to be free?
TotalCourage007@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 329d
Must be nice winning so much they went full ouroboros. Fucking simpletons.
wirebeads@lemmy.ca · 31 pts · 330d
I’ll stay in my genetically diverse country of Canada and if I feel like it, I’ll visit any one of the many casinos we have here and keep my money in the greatest nation on earth.
I like people of colour, ethnic origins and choice of religion or lack there of, and honestly, I enjoy feeling safe amongst my brethren and not worrying if myself or my neighbour will be pulled out of their bed because they were born the wrong skin tone or race and sent off to a desolate jail in another country not of their own.
America the fascist can rot and I’m enjoying watching it start to implode.
I feel sorry for the good Americans caught up in this, but you have a line item in your constitution to fight this sort of thing. It’s up to you all to choose what you do with that.
samus12345@sh.itjust.works · 15 pts · 330d
You shouldn't. Its implosion will have a negative impact all over the world. Far-right extremists are gaining power everywhere, including in Canada.
TrickDacy@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 330d
Yep. Not to mention, that is sort of sadistic. Many innocent people are suffering and it will get worse.
DNS@discuss.online · 0 pts · 330d
It needs to get worse for a chance for people to wake up and demand progressive change, not regression. If more people need to die due to their apathy or hate, so be it. Do I like saying that? Absolutely not, nor did I expect to be living in Idiocracy.
TrickDacy@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 330d
What an extremely callous and deranged thing to say
HumanOnEarth@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 329d
As callous and deranged as literally allowing an obvious fascist to consolidate power and declare war on those oppose him?
TrickDacy@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 329d
Totally fair! Out of 350 million people, all of them deserve the awful things that 78 million morons wanted. /s
Your username should've been InhumaneNotInAmerica
HumanOnEarth@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 329d
Besides clutching pearls, what else are you planning to do? What is it that you're waiting for? You're clearly unhappy with the state of things. Are you one of those just hoping it will all sort itself out? Are you waiting for someone to save you?
All the empathy in the world is going to help you exactly zero. I do feel bad for people who didn't choose this. But that doesn't mean you aren't collectively shitting the bed right now. I'm not talking about individuals. There are people trying. Not nearly enough.
CircaV@lemmy.ca · 0 pts · 330d
Worse - how? By getting those concentration camps more open?
A_norny_mousse@feddit.org · 6 pts · 330d
Of course neither of us can know for sure, but I personally believe that Trump/MAGA utterly failing will have a takedown effect on all those far-right parties that are very much copying its playbook.
samus12345@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 330d
If that happened, I'd agree with the "glad it's imploding" idea.
HamsterRage@lemmy.ca · 6 pts · 330d
I'm not so sure. The rest of the world is working as fast as it can to extracate itself from any depedence on the US. Here in Canada, we are actively finding new markets for our products and so is the rest of the world.
By the time that the US does implode, nobody will care, and hardly anyone outside the US will notice.
corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca · 5 pts · 330d
Our country is within range of America as it flails and thrashes on the way down. We can't escape that.
samus12345@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 330d
Yeah, Canada is probably less able to escape collateral damage from the US imploding than any other country. Sorry about that, you guys don't deserve it!
CircaV@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 330d
Don’t worry we’ll build a wall. America can go fuck itself.
samus12345@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 329d
Just make sure the US pays for it!
CircaV@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 330d
Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 329d
If the world is guaranteed to suck more every day from now on I reserve the right to laugh instead of cry.
Deflated0ne@lemmy.world · 29 pts · 329d
Fascism is unpopular.
Shocking I'm sure.
pjwestin@lemmy.world · 29 pts · 329d
"Come to Las Vegas! Win a free trip to El Salvador if you accidentally get swept up in an ICE raid!"
PhilipTheBucket@piefed.social · 29 pts · 330d
Hey, try this instead:
"We have an armed response force ready to protect you against ICE if they come to try to snatch you. We have lawyers at the ready, and we're fine mobilizing the state's National Guard if it comes to that. If you're in another part of the country and worried about your safety, come to Vegas! You can do some gambling and see the sights without worrying if you're going to make it home to your family or not."
Guaranteed spike in tourism. Don't just ask for what you want. Earn it.
edgemaster72@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 330d
"Gamble with your money, not with your freedom!"
Demdaru@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 330d
Didn't Vegas literally began as mob-ran city that bargained with federal goverment?
Where are the spine and concrete boots now, Vegas?
Where went the Sin part of Sin City?
samus12345@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 330d
It would be foolish to trust a statement like that even if she did say it. The fashy feds will do whatever they want regardless of what local governments say.
Demdaru@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 330d
TuffNutzes@lemmy.world · 28 pts · 329d
I guess international travelers don't like being assaulted by Trump's Gestapo and disappeared into a gulag. Who knew?
Outlawstar@lemmy.world · 28 pts · 329d
I'm American, have never been to Vegas and was planning a trip. Then all my bills went up. My insurance alone tripled. I now fear traveling state to state as I don't trust the police in red states so no driving through them. I no longer trust the TSA to not arrest me for what I post online so no more flying. I think I will stay right here for the foreseeable future as travel just isn't important to me right now. Would I love to travel? Yes. I need to feel safe and secure in it and to not be financially ruined by it. Right now I just need to focus on making sure my housing and food is secured. I don't have time or security to focus on anything else.
Venefica@lemmy.ca · 10 pts · 329d
Same here. I’m much darker than my own mother and have spent a lot of time during my childhood in the 70s and 80s being asked if my parents had an “interracial marriage”, oh AND I have tattoos ( god forbid, but dark people with tattoos are seen as gang members by the current administration.) I haven’t traveled outside this country since pre-COVID and I believe the next time I’m able to afford it, I’m going somewhere that will allow me to stay permanently. The current administration terrifies and angers me, and the other side not doing anything about it has me wondering why I’m still here.
abigscaryhobo@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 329d
I can promise you TSA doesn't give a flying fuck about anything besides the water bottle in your backpack. Other agencies, sure, but the TSA itself is only concerned if you're trying to bring a prohibited item through security. Unless the FBI has tagged you as a terrorist or something they could care less.
Edit: yeah there are still bad actors and racists out there, but I'm trying to say that the TSA agent isn't gonna stop and go "wait a second you posted cringe on twitter" unless another agency tells them to. "But my agent was a jerk and profiled me" yeah there are jerks, it's surprisingly low effort to be an asshole. I'm just saying TSA (and just the TSA) has their head too far up their ass and is too lazy to try and monitor every single person who wants to take a flight themselves.
Kage520@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 329d
TSA just loves to power trip. Last trip my pre check got messed up so my wife and daughter went through and got on the plane, and I got sent to the 45 minute other line. They let a handicapped person go right ahead of me and skip the line when I finally got to the front (normally okay, but now I had 10 minutes left to run to the plane for final boarding). They flagged my bag for extra checking because there were baby wipes in there, and when I asked if they could check mine first before the guy who got placed in front of me, he yelled at me that I should have been at the airport 2 hours ago and it wasn't his problem if I missed my flight and my wife and daughter flew without me.
davidagain@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 329d
*couldn't care less.
This means they are at the bottom of the care barrel and that thing is dry.
Compare "couldn't have any less money" with "could have less money".
LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 328d
Wrong, almost missed my flight out of Kansas recently because the guy checking IDs pulled the person I was with aside for a full search, because they looked Latina (he said he thought her ID was fake). She had to stand there for 45 minutes waiting to be searched, no one could help her or search her. Finally I pitched a white woman tantrum at another older white woman working and she got her out ASAP. Her ID and everything was fine. He was just racist and wanted to harass her because he could. What a fucker
ReluctantMuskrat@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 329d
Maybe today but do you think Orange Man won't weaponize the TSA given a reason or opportunity?
FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 329d
They’re already so desperate to have the power of real cops, that’s a terrifying thought
abigscaryhobo@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 327d
Agreed. And we should do everything we can to prevent him from doing so. But he hasn't done that yet.
Baked86@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 329d
But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world · 28 pts · 330d
Isnt Vegas a conservative shit hole? As a Canadian fuck off. I saw that bald maga prick from pawn stars complaining about the lack of tourism, well you voted for this shit
DNS@discuss.online · 14 pts · 330d
Yes, it's a conservative shithole. Pretty much all of Nevada is. I noticed when I went to work conferences there that there seemed to be more conservative events happening compared to how it was 15 years ago.
Vegas effectively priced out middle class/poor families out of a budget friendly vacation. Now it's just rich people, poor people acting rich, and employees attending conferences now. As an American minority, Vegas isn't a safe place to visit anymore. They want my money but not see me there.
humanspiral@lemmy.ca · 8 pts · 329d
NV was slightly blue in previous 3 elections, or at least very close. It was close again, but the "no taxes on tips" bribe made Trump win, and the bribe was only made to win NV. LV tip earners total after tax earnings are probably down now.
ThePyroPython@lemmy.world · 27 pts · 330d
Flush the orange turd and any wipe way any remaining shit spackles, then we'll discuss holiday plans.
Sincerely, the same half of the UK.
CircaV@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 330d
Shit spackles are about 77million people. More if you include those who didn’t bother voting. That’s a lot of shit.
ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online · 25 pts · 329d
Canadian here. Nice try, ICE.
Krudler@lemmy.world · 25 pts · 330d
From Canada with love: fuck you
Snowpix@lemmy.ca · 24 pts · 330d
You only miss our money. Fuck off.
shawn1122@sh.itjust.works · 7 pts · 330d
We miss you = We miss your money when you're in the Options Prime of Capitalism.
empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 24 pts · 330d
How much of it is Canadians staying away because of fascism, or how much of it is staying away because Vegas is too goddamn expensive?
relativestranger@feddit.nl · 12 pts · 330d
back when i was a kid (~ 1980s) my mom used to go to vegas once or twice a year. not for the gambling, but for the affordability of the whole vacation. flights, hotels, food, shows--all of it used to be really, really cheap. don't know when it changed, but yea, it certainly is not that anymore.
Foni@lemmy.zip · 8 pts · 330d
It was the mafia, the mafia did it cheaply, the multinationals are much more thieves than good old Don Vito.
givesomefucks@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 330d
The Mafia didn't make their money on hotels...
They didn't even really make it on gambling.
They made their money loaning money to gambling addicts and charging interest. Besides laundrying money that's why they got into casinos, a steady stream of desperate idiots who would take out loans.
The cheapness of Vegas was the same as a crack dealer giving out the first hit for free, just to try it.
A certain percentage get hooked immediately
Foni@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 330d
Of course, because no current multinational is dedicated to lending money to people with dubious financial knowledge and/or serious economic problems, and then turning out to be "aggressive" by claiming interest. Surely the casino owners have interests in those same corporations and you know it
The difference is how much each person wants to squeeze the lemon, and long-term thinking. The mafia also works better at that than large corporations.
Gerudo@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 330d
Right? If they are hurting as bad as they say they are, why isn't it getting cheaper to go there?
Bebopalouie@lemmy.ca · 5 pts · 330d
Don’t forget them trying annex Canada as well. Useless vermin the lot of them.
Bebopalouie@lemmy.ca · 23 pts · 330d
Me I will never come to the states ever again in my life. The states are now a fascist country.
We don’t love you, we don’t need anything from you. Go kiss your fascist child rapists ring, you got what you voted for.
Piss off.
deathbird@mander.xyz · 23 pts · 329d
The mayor of Las Vegas is a democrat, not a member of the face-eating leopards party. I'm too busy to look it up right now but I'm going to bet that the Las Vegas City and surrounding county is probably one of the most consistently Democratic parts of Nevada. Of course Canadians should still stay away. Any non-american should just not come, but this is not lamf
cabillaud@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 329d
Now I'm curious, why would Las Vegas be inclined to vote Dem?
HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club · 8 pts · 329d
A lot of union jobs work at the casinos. You also have a higher than average performance sector.
Nick@mander.xyz · 8 pts · 329d
A huge proportion of the actual residents of Vegas and the surrounding areas are service workers, since it's a tourist hub. Because of this, service worker unions in the area have a pretty sizable influence, and they tend to endorse Democratic candidates. In the most recent election I suspect that this influence was partially offset by (1) COVID tourism revenue loss being blamed on Biden and (2) Trump's illusory promise of no tax on tips.
deathbird@mander.xyz · 1 pts · 329d
Idk why anyone would, except most days the only other choice is Republicans. But it's a long observed trend for cities to lean Demo.
vala@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 329d
Las Vegas is effectively the only part of Nevada with people in it.
FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 329d
Reno is the other but the area is a lot of billionaire bungalows and I dunno if I’d call them “people” so it’s mostly just a big trailer park
Banzai51@midwest.social · 23 pts · 329d
Maybe it would help if our President wasn't threatening Canadian sovereignty, and the cult wasn't cheering it on.
bytesonbike@discuss.online · 3 pts · 329d
Donald Trump’s incessant goading of Canada—threatening steep tariffs, and urging it to become the 51st state was only earlier this year.
madjo@feddit.nl · 1 pts · 329d
What's your point? These declining tourism numbers aren't from last year or something, but from this year.
InEnduringGrowStrong@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 328d
Yea that's what he's saying.
Cevilia@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 19 pts · 329d
minorkeys@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 329d
"We love you, we need you, we miss you." Said the abuser after you start to leave them...
hildegarde@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 17 pts · 330d
And now Vegas is suffering from the actions of outside groups. A truly independent Vegas is the only good ending.
sundray@lemmus.org · 8 pts · 330d
samus12345@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 330d
The House doesn't always win, after all.
Zink@programming.dev · 17 pts · 329d
I'm sure this is not a rare thing on Lemmy, but even as an American sitting in the US I see these headlines and think "lol get fucked."
Probably 100 Million people in this country need to be shocked into global reality. I worry just how bad things will have to get before that happens, though. It would be great to have an economy that would let me retire some day, sure, but the loss of institutions and technological advancement is sad for both us and for people that don't even exist yet.
And I'm not trying to be anti entertainment / gambling / prostitution, but Vegas is pretty low on the priority list of the american institutions trump is disintegrating. It has high international visibility though.
DarkFuture@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 329d
Oh things are going to have to get a whole lot worse before a significant amount of people finally PRIVATELY admit they were wrong and start quietly doing things differently.
Realistically we're going to see a decline in the quality of our lives probably for the rest of our lives before this ship MAYBE corrects course.
America is very, very dumb. That's something that, even under good circumstances, would probably take a generation or two to fix. But our circumstances aren't good and aren't getting better.
I hate to say it, but there are a number of better places to spend your life than the U.S. as it is now and will probably be for years and years to come. It's going to take a looooong time to rebuild what we're losing right now.
Zink@programming.dev · 4 pts · 329d
If only most americans knew this, it might actually self-correct!
But in a world with incredible, downright magical access to global communication and human knowledge, millions continue to choose folk wisdom and confirmation bias.
Deflated0ne@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 329d
Oh I know. The only reason I'm still here is that I can't afford to leave.
Mossheart@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 329d
I heard mars is nice this time of year....
SabinStargem@lemmy.today · 0 pts · 329d
I think that if we don't have civil war, the political sea change will come from Boomers dying of old age, allowing younger generations to slot into their evacuated political and fiscal offices.
krunklom@lemmy.zip · 7 pts · 329d
Don't underestimate how stupid gen z is.
Peruvian_Skies@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 329d
And Gen Z is heavily right-leaning due to the piss-poor quality of education and all the manosphere propaganda over the last several years. It's going to continue to get worse for a very long time before it gets better.
nova_ad_vitum@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 329d
We're not even close to that though. Things would have to get far worse in the US for that to even begin to happen . The full third of eligible voters who didn't vote in November for the most part still wouldn't if an election were held today.
Zink@programming.dev · 1 pts · 329d
Yeah that's the unfortunate truth. We can argue all day long about what the best way forward is, but most people do not care unless they are actively being hurt right this moment. And that's ignoring the fact that there is an absurd amount of enthusiastic support for Trump among our neighbors.
I think we have a situation where what used to be "middle class" paths through life, like a high school educated father working a manufacturing job to support a wife and 2.3 kids, are now the "you can probably keep yourself alive if you keep on your employers good side" working poor that feel like indentured slaves.
Filling the actual middle class slot are the highly educated and specialized workers. Like in my case, I am a single income earner for my family and we own our single family home. But, I have three degrees (two STEM) with 20 years of experience and live in a blue collar neighborhood in a house that's older than me. And we bought the place over 15 years ago.
Then I guess the upper middle class is reserved for your medical specialists, successful business owners, and corporate drones who stumbled their way up to the c-suite.
And somehow, the government and corporations have convinced them all to punch down.
RealM__@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 330d
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W62Ie7dKXRY
This video answers the "why" perfectly.
tl;dw: everything more expensive, bullshit fees, less quality
Also, in my personal opinion, the current political climate doesn't help to draw in international tourists.
humanspiral@lemmy.ca · 9 pts · 329d
great link, and good reason for everyone to stay away.
Canada is extra special though. As airport TSA were assholes before Trump, and there are some new ICE/border horror stories with white Canadians, in addition to the general view that US is a dislikable shithole country now, over unfair tariff extortion.
A_norny_mousse@feddit.org · 16 pts · 330d
She's Democrat, so not really LAMF. I feel sorry for relatively sane people getting caught up in all this. Fuck the whole MAGA madhouse with a rusty spade.
That said, I just don't see what she thought she could have achieved with that. Maybe its target audience was her own consituency more than actual Canadians.
taiyang@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 330d
My thinking, LAMF is mostly for people who brought it on yourself. Nevada voters are a pretty mixed bag, though not as much in the city.
Having spent time in the international district of LV, though, they're lovely people mostly trying to get by. They all cater to The Strip but it's a regular ol' city just like the rest of them.
jballs@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 330d
Yeah I looked up her Wikipedia:
She also ran for Senate as a Democrat and lost. So not really a LAMF situation in my opinion.
But then again, I suppose in World War 2, most people viewed all Germans as Nazis.
Psythik@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 330d
If the strip is so desperate for business, then where are the $35/night rooms?
Was going to go with the girlfriend last month, but after seeing the room prices, we decided to save a ton of money and go to San Diego instead.
If you want people to go to the strip again, bring back the deals you used to run all the time before COVID. Otherwise I don't believe you when you say you're desperate for tourists.
humanspiral@lemmy.ca · 10 pts · 329d
But Stonk number go up only with ripoff.
Bubbaonthebeach@lemmy.ca · 15 pts · 330d
I do feel sorry for individual Americans who will lose their jobs, maybe their homes, maybe more. However, we saw what Russia has done to the Ukraine and we have to be just as wary about our Southern neighbour. We've always known that America is a good-weather friend and we can't count on them, even if they have always been able to count on us, but with Trump we have to believe that America would go even further and try to destroy us. We can't sit back and take that. Until Trump and his acolytes are out of power in the US - and that may never happen - we have to Stand On Guard for Thee (Canada). That means as little US vacation and as limited buying of US merchandise as we can individually manage.
Dadifer@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 330d
I'm American, and I don't feel bad for them
CircaV@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 330d
I don’t. They voted for Trump. Fuck them.
Jhex@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 330d
fuck her and her shitty city
Master@sh.itjust.works · 15 pts · 330d
The city and casinos sold their soul for profits and the country turned evil. Get fucked Vegas.
MourningDove@lemmy.zip · 14 pts · 329d
Octavio@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 329d
HertzDentalBar@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 16 pts · 329d
Because it's fun, and maybe if enough places see the harm Cheeto Mussolini is doing they will actually do something instead of begging tourists to ignore fascism.
Octavio@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 329d
lemmy_outta_here@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 329d
There are 3 kinds of americans:
2/3 of Las Vegas residents fit in the first two categories. All three are having their faces eaten by leopards, to varying degrees of justice.
bagsy@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 328d
I can't believe that threatening Canadians didn't make them want to come to the US and spend all their money.
SabinStargem@lemmy.today · 12 pts · 329d
If she wants tourism, she must make a promise: that ICE will be arrested on sight, and that the Nevada State Guard will stand strong against any National Guard unit that is enforcing totalitarianism.
vala@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 329d
Basically the exact opposite statement has already been made
doingthestuff@lemy.lol · 1 pts · 329d
They couldn't arrest ICE even if they had the balls. Feds would nuke their local law enforcement.
Korhaka@sopuli.xyz · 12 pts · 329d
Good. Its working then.
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 11 pts · 330d
I only visited Vegas once, for a symposium. I do not understand the appeal of a city were parents walk around drunk all day pushing strollers, or placards advertising hookers, or gambling in games that clearly state on them you will lose.
It's a shithole within a shithole.
Horsey@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 330d
If you’re going to Vegas to gamble, having a bad time there is on you haha. For sure though, if you’re not gonna gamble, go vacation in LA instead. One thing though, Vegas has entertainment on lock; outdoor excursions can’t compare to what’s on offer in Vegas vs LA.
Cocopanda@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 329d
Was just in the city. Everyone was telling me how bad it got. I had a great time. Didn’t have to make a reservation for the Wynn buffet. I just walked right in. Then the Uber drivers were telling how bad things have got for them. From 15k a week to maybe 2-3K. Same thing for bartenders and waitresses.
LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 328d
Did you get those donuts at the buffet? Super good
But the rest is pretty sad, yeah
herseycokguzelolacak@lemmy.ml · 11 pts · 329d
cry me a river
WanderWisley@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 330d
I’m born and raised in Nevada north eastern Nevada to be exact and seeing this state and Vegas solely descend into the cesspit that it has created I couldn’t be happier. It does suck for the workers in the hotels and the people that drive taxis and work in food services throughout state they are going to be the first ones to suffer from this.
NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip · 10 pts · 330d
Nevada is a solidly red state but Vegas (like basically all cities outside of Texas and Florida...) heavily favors Democrats. So I don't think this is a "leopards ate my face" situation.
But... yeah. That is the problem. A lot of cities are actively fighting back (not aware of Vegas doing so). But you still need to get to that city. And if I were fortunate enough to not live in this hell country, there would be nothing you could do to make me risk border control.
Zagorath@aussie.zone · 14 pts · 330d
I thought that too, until I read this comment. So nah, it's a leopards eating faces situation.
NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 330d
Which is still dumbass politicians (many just trying to survive) and not the people of Vegas itself.
Zagorath@aussie.zone · 3 pts · 329d
Sure, but the mayor is the one whose face is being eaten.
mysticpickle@lemmy.ca · 8 pts · 330d
Yeeeeeah, that's wrong. Harris won Clark county by about 2%. They favored Democrats but calling it "heavily favored" is really stretching it.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-elections/nevada-president-results
Geodad@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 329d
alekwithak@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 329d
Can we please stop acting like the 2024 election results were legitimate and not a hostile corporate takeover? Every time this dumbass shit is uttered, especially about a blue state, all it does is aid the fascists in legitimizing their ill-gotten positions of power.
madjo@feddit.nl · 4 pts · 329d
The results were legitimate though. Too many people didn't bother to go out and do their civic duty. And it helped the fascists in performing their hostile takeover.
So, yes, Las Vegas is reaping what Nevada sowed.
Treczoks@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 330d
Get rid of the Führer and his Neo-Nazi party and their American GeStaPo, and tourists might return. Dead simple solution, isn't it?
RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 330d
The biggest industry outside of wall street built to fleece people of their money is hurting? Cry me a river.
humanspiral@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 329d
They, the strip anyways, are all on wall street (stock exchange) now.
Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 8 pts · 329d
From what I've been reading here, sounds a lot that they activelly brought in multiple leopards: an anti-foreigner out of control Fascist regime and very high prices.
That's like commiting suicide with both barrels of a two barrel shotgun.
webp@mander.xyz · 7 pts · 330d
We need your money 👹
bradorsomething@ttrpg.network · 7 pts · 329d
I was there in August, and it was dead. 2am and the whole block was me and a depressed looking prostitute walking by. Ten years ago I’d be in a crowd avoiding pickpockets, but nothing.
Surprising number of Hispanic tourists, so very curious if ICE hits Vegas soon.
Tarquinn2049@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 330d
Well, I suppose if they could appeal to anyone to enter the states right now, it would be people who 'enjoy' big risk gambling...
etherphon@midwest.social · 7 pts · 329d
rumba@lemmy.zip · 6 pts · 328d
It could come back, but it won't be the same Vegas. They're trying hard to pivot.
Gambling needs to take a back seat to entertainment. It's chock full of stuff to do, the Sphere, the Dam, the canyons, the desert, family-friendly shows, Area-15, and they're cleaning up the strip.
They just need the US to be on the menu for tourism again and that's not going to happen with all this motions to everything going on.
melsaskca@lemmy.ca · 7 pts · 329d
Just hold on a bit longer. Trump is desperately trying to turn his shit deals into art.
Worstdriver@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 329d
I'm Canadian, and this year I went to Florida to fulfill a life-long (I'll be 60 next year) dream to visit the Kennedy Space Center. One thing I noticed, beyond getting "randomly secondarily" screened at EVERY security checkpoint, was that there were no wait lines for anything anywhere.
No lines at NASA, no lines at restaurants, no lines at Orlando attractions. At least nothing more than a couple of minutes, at most. Even the beaches were mostly empty...
Hozerkiller@lemmy.ca · 6 pts · 329d
Didn't they vote for trump?
madjo@feddit.nl · 6 pts · 329d
Well, what did you expect people to do when your president started questioning Canada's sovereignty? To roll over and keep giving you money?! Get rid of the infestation of fascists all over the place, burn it all down, and then, maybe then people might think about returning to the USA.
But I do find it funny that in Youtube comments on channels like Guard The Leaf or "Not Leaving Las Vegas" there were idiots claiming that Vegas doesn't run on income from foreign visitors, that it mostly runs on domestic tourism, despite showing them actual numbers from the Las Vegas airport.
LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 328d
There's no way those people have even been to the Strip during normal times, because it is so so multicultural it's insane.
Sanctus@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 330d
Dont let this fool you, my dumb ass fellows USians huff xenophobia to start their fucken day. They'll turn right back around to immigrants bad no matter what even if its just tourists and they aren't living here.
ceph@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 329d
This will drag down the entire state of Nevada.
JoshuaFalken@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 329d
Taking a step away from the reasons this is happening, perhaps it's not a good idea to have a place that's so dependent on tourism money. Cities should be city first, travel destination second.
vala@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 329d
Las Vegas isn't and never was a proper city. It's just a giant sprawling suburb propping up a thin line of decaying skyscrapers in the desert.
Banzai51@midwest.social · 2 pts · 329d
You're way too late to that party.
JoshuaFalken@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 329d
Perhaps. Progress doesn't need to be incremental. Vegas has supported the tourism industry for decades. The levers of power could be used to turn the tables and have the industry support the city for a change. It's not like the money isn't there.
HootinNHollerin@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 6 pts · 330d
Have the day you voted for
TachyonTele@piefed.social · 1 pts · 330d
Shes a Democrat
HootinNHollerin@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 9 pts · 330d
Trump won nevada is what im referring to
MehBlah@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 330d
Sucks to be you.
fartographer@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 330d
Oopsie poopsie!
skhayfa@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 330d
What is the closest equivalent to Las Vegas in Canada?
WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 330d
Niagara Falls, maybe?
FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca · 5 pts · 330d
America can't have nice things
bytesonbike@discuss.online · 4 pts · 329d
https://www.foxla.com/news/canadian-ice-custody-death
There's a non-zero chance the American government will find you and kill you.
yarr@feddit.nl · 4 pts · 330d
I have an idea! What if those filthy Canadians were just stopped at the border and customs can just search them and confiscate any cash, then send them back to Canada and send the cash to Vegas. Then we don't have to deal with those annoying foreigners and we still get their money.
corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 330d
Hush. If they hear you they'll make that happen.
tensorpudding@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 330d
I don't feel like this counts since Mayor Berkeley is a Democrat and Las Vegas' Clark county swung for Harris in 2024 even if Nevada's electoral votes went for Trump. The people being hurt by this mostly didn't have the day they voted for, in other words...
mysticpickle@lemmy.ca · 8 pts · 330d
Clark county was a really narrow swing for Harris. She only won by about 2%.
tensorpudding@lemmy.world · -2 pts · 330d
How many more people would have needed to vote blue before the actual blue voters in NV are worthy of our sympathy in this trying time?
MushuChupacabra@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 330d
Enough votes to have prevented the Trump presidency.
Some of us would probably be in Vegas right about now.
But as it stands, the way Americans like to vote means that we are always one election cycle away from fascism.
The Republican party will certainly not purge MAGA, nor the proto-MAGA attitudes that created it in the first place.
You now have a political party that has "The South Shall Rise Again" vibes.
Now they're like herpes.
samus12345@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 330d
It very much counts.
jenesaisquoi@feddit.org · 3 pts · 329d
I'm not Canadian but I'd still like to say go fuck yourself, Vegas mayor
Je ne suis pas Canadien mais quand-même j'aimerais dire va te faire foutre, maire de végas
FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 330d
When is the national guard scheduled to hit Las Vegas?
Goldholz@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 329d
Fuck off pit poutin on your chest!
phoenixarise@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 322d
lol even Americans don’t want to go back. Turns out that tourists don’t like being nickel and dimed just for breathing. Who knew?
NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 329d
Even if Trump was gone, and the damage was repaired, it's so fucking expensive there now.
The only reason I'd go now is if there's something there I can't realistically see/do otherwise, or if the flights are so much cheaper to get there (and flights there can be cheap) that it makes up the cost of potentially seeing / doing that something elsewhere.
Otherwise, I've been there enough now, I don't need to go again.
SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 330d
Lol
Lmao
vala@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 329d
Pls respond
BradleyUffner@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 328d
Vegas doesn't care about anything but their money
circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org · 1 pts · 330d
HugeNerd@lemmy.ca · 0 pts · 330d
Show me some amazon showgirls and I'll think it over.
inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 329d
MAGA can make up for it.