Sadly it is on brand for the US. Really trying to bring back the good ole days where the white man can do whatever with impunity. Keeping women in their place, bare foot and pregnant without means.
With economies of scale you end up with basically one producer producing stuff for incredibly cheap. Take poultry for example, Tyson is like the only name you'll see at major retailers. Even most store brands are just relabeled Tyson product. So it really doesn't matter to them if they get a couple people sick, cause we're else you gunna go? Blackbird farms, and pay $38 a chicken? Not the very large majority of price sensitive people living paycheck to paycheck.
No, the First Amendment only protects you from the government. "Free speech" is a philosophical principle which has nothing to do with governments directly.
However, an "advertising standards board" that decides what can and cannot be posted publicly sounds pretty governmental to me.
But even when free speech wasn’t forced it wouldn’t force channels to carry your advertisement.
Of course, but that still isn't any kind of universal standards board, that's individual channels deciding independently.
Yes, the company that made the ad. Unless something happened that I'm not aware of, nothing has happened to the marketing firm who made the ad nor the various companies who served the ad to audiences.
The question was phrased in a way asking if an ad platform ran it across their standards and practices to see if the ad should be aired. The ad was in poor taste, but it could be shown on network television so no one stopped it. The risk for showing a controversial ad is near zero. The only company dealing with a boycott is the company that was advertising its product.
That's not what free speech is. Free speech doesn't let you say whatever you want to anyone, it's intention is to protect you while speaking out against government officials and offices. Last I checked Callaway wasn't the 4th branch of the government, let's not give turkey neck any ideas.
The FCC should be regulating ads like this, but this is a clown country and capitalism says domestic violence is a viable commodity to sell.
While the topic was abhorrent and in bad taste, I don't think there was ever a time when the FCC banned jokes about spouse/family abuse.
The Honeymooners regularly joked about the husband finally breaking and beating his wife. I Love Lucy had an episode where Lucy tried to get a sunburn so Ricky wouldn't beat her as hard for buying an expensive dress. The Simpsons had Homer choking Bart as a running gag. All these shows were on Broadcast TV.
The FCC being useless and bought off still doesn't mean that Callaway gets special first amendment protections. They're a corporation, they aren't protected from consumers and retailers dropping their products for promoting crimes, or from potential lawsuits as a result of harmful marketing.
Again, this topic has nothing to do with free speech.
I bring it up because companies which broadcast and publish material are generally given greater deference by the public for showing material they disagree with. As long as the standards are adhered to evenly, the broadcaster isn't going to be boycotted for an ad. No one is boycotting the television stations and streamers for airing this ad; all the attention is going to Calloway.
The consequences of free speech are felt by those paying for it in public opinion, not those serving it.
Free speech doesn’t let you say whatever you want to anyone, it’s intention is to protect you while speaking out against government officials and offices.
It sounds like you're getting freedom of speech mixed up with the First Amendment. They aren't the same thing. The First Amendment's intention is to protect your freedom of speech from the government. If you want your freedom of speech protected from other things (such as your employer), the First Amendment won't protect you.
No sir, no confusion here. You and I both said the same thing. Freedom of speech / free speech are the same thing in the US, a very specific legal construct under the first amendment, which many people don't understand the boundaries of. I have a degree in this field, so I'm pretty up to speed on basic civil rights. Hence why I questioned the other user on why they think costco boycotting callaway because of a gross chud ad had anything to do with a law that deals with government overreach.
Now if the ad depicted the dude tackling Trump to the ground and threatening him for touching their underage caddy, and the FBI raided their offices in response, NOW we'd be talking about a first amendment issue as that'd be direct political commentary and an illegal response by the government.
To be fair, it wasn't Callaway directly. It was Good Good Golf, a golf youtube channel, that aired the ad. Callaway had a partnership with them to cobrand the golf club, but dropped Good Good immediately after the ad and canceled the branded club.
Callaway still deserves the backlash from associating with them though and apparently someone giving the ok for the ad.
Personally I think that if you set out to invent the most boring sport you wouldn't be able to beat golf but I accept that some people strangely do find it attractive and they're not all toxic masculinity "alpha" types, so they should really have seen that one coming.
There is absolutely nothing about a golf course that resembles nature. It’s nothing but chemicals and underpaid guys with gas fume belching machines.
If you want a wandering outdoor sport with real nature, try out frisbee golf or field archery. They also have the bonus of not destroying habitats and polluting local waterways with way too much nitrogen fertilizer.
Aye and no. Don't get me wrong, golf courses are as you say fertiliser polluted and lacking in biodiversity. But the rough, surrounding the whole course, and the woods they're often placed in certainly resemble nature. There's still birds, foxes, squirrels, etc, going about.
Certainly in Scotland at least, which is my only personal experience of courses. And being the home of golf I don't think it's disingenuous for me to use that as a basis for the claim.
I have seen videos and pictures of courses in places like Florida though and if a Scottish course is a tragedy of nature, a Florida course is an abomination.
You’re right that Scotland and a few other places with a climate identical to Scotland it’s fine. That is a very small portion of the world’s golf courses.
I haven't played golf yet (only minigolf), but i could see me enjoying it on a warm spring day with some clouds to take a stroll on the green while actually pursuing a specific goal. But I would rather take a walk in the woods, which is a much more relaxing area to be in.
I'm quite fond of golf (it's really cheap to play near me) and honestly there's a steep learning curve. And it's only fun once you get past that. But I like how you get instant feedback on how you did, especially if you play with friends. Improving at golf feels great, but I imagine it kinda sucks once you plateau.
I'm NGL, initially i thought "This is probably one of those wacky ads taken out of context." And no, it's really really super gross. There's nothing humorous about it, it's just a really serious ad about pushing down and threatening a woman who touches your golf club.
It wouldn't be any better if the victim was a man either. The fact that there's no other words except 'the victim' is telling.
It's all so... plausible. His shove, her little cry of pain and surprise and fear, the way he leans down and tells her not to touch his club and then stalks away and furiously grabs the club as he leaves. The ad would have been better if it had been escalated to Looney Tunes levels of reaction, but instead they leave it in this alarmingly real area of domestic violence.
That was so much more fucked up than I expected. This has to be intentional, it is very hard to believe that anyone thought this made for a good commercial in any way other than to appeal to chuds who enjoy violence against women. It is blatant and explicit, the mask is off.
So if you walk into an electronics lab and see a piece of equipment with squee 😍 all these cool dials! 😍 and 🥰 🥰 lights!!! 🥰 🥰 and a threatening 😠 sign that says "don't touch," and you turn a dial just a little, but you totally didn't hurt anything, who was in the wrong now that the equipment isn't calibrated? The person for making the threatening sign? The person for leaving their equipment where any toddler could get to it? Or the the toddler for not having agency enough to know not to touch something that doesn't belong to them? Are you going to pay for the engineering time it took a team to calibrate the equipment for a First Article Test the next week? You're going to pay for the customers to fly back home after flying in on a Sunday for a Monday/Tuesday test that now can't happen?
Just because you don't assign a value to a golf club doesn't mean it doesn't have a value to the person who bought it, trained with it, and went through the effort to carry it somewhere to play golf. And golf clubs or engineering labs aside, you don't seem like you've ever had something broken by someone else before you even got a chance to use it. Are you going to refund the guy's once in a lifetime golf vacation because you don't know what forces a graphite shaft can/can't withstand? Are you going to replace his grandpa's headcover that he uses because it reminds him of his deceased grandpa teaching him golf?
The engineering lab would obviously have access controls because of people who don't understand what they're doing. Someone's golf clubs on a golf course, within sight of the owner and within asking distance to see if it's OK to look at one can usually rely on common sense and etiquette. Usually...
Again, you're assigning a value of zero to someone else's property.
If you're on your way to your landlord with $500 to make rent for the month and get mugged it's a lot different if you've got plenty of money in the bank and need to make another trip to retreive more versus if it's the last $500 you had to your name and you get evicted for not making rent.
To prove my point, kindly take your most prized possession and destroy it. Post pictures here when you're done for verification and open another thread moaning about how your stuff is broken and there's nothing you could've done to stop it from happening.
So you agree with the ad’s message then?
I never said that and you shouldn't put words in my mouth. I didn't think people being secure in their property was such a debatable topic, but at least I understand now why invite-only, membership-required golf courses exist.
I work in marketing. There's a point where where you make so much money you honestly believe you take massive shits and everyone thinks it smells great.
To add just a little bit of extra "fuck you" to the situation, this was the first advertisement from Callaway featuring women. Practically progressive!
Looked it up, apparently they did an Obsession parody, but no one got the reference so it looked like the CEO of the company just pushed a woman to the ground for trying to touch his golf clubs.
I've seen the ad, I didn't get the reference either. I haven't seen Obsession, but apparently that's what that was in reference to.....
If you have to be told what the reference is, you're probably not doing references right.
I honestly don't give a fuck if it was a reference to something, depicting violence against women to protect your fucking golf clubs from cooties or whatever is wildly unacceptable. The fact that even the script got approved is mind boggling, let alone that the shoot, editing, and distribution all pushed it through.
Callaway is now on my 'never buy, even used or on sale' list.
Na, I'm cool with buying second hand preemo stuff. My money isn't going to them, and no one is going to notice the logo flying 300 yards through the air.
Thank you for the context! I've seen the ad in passing and really for the life of me, couldn't understand why anyone thought that was a good idea. Now I kinda get it. It's still terrible, but at least it's not just "haha, hurting women funny".
It was the guys IRL girlfriend and it was an obvious joke commercial. It could have easily been the same commercial with the girlfriend shoving the guy if they were her clubs or a guy shoving his brother and no one would have batted an eye.
Also, you say "violently shoves" and that's what it was supposed to be made to look like, but if you actually look at the commercial he barely pushes her at all. It had nothing to do with being sexist or promoting violence against women. It was a funny lil "don't touch my golf club" commercial that had nothing to do with promoting violence.
But he didn’t depict the other way around, they depicted a man shoving a woman down on the ground over a golf club. Nothing is funny about that and perpetuates the idea that this is ok for younger generations
Anyone who would actually believe it's acceptable to shove tackle anyone down from touching a golf club is an idiot. The fact that you're harping over an ad where it was a guy doing it to a woman is just the proof of that. Sounds like you're sexist.
Every time I hear anything about Costco it always seems to be the only US company that's run by someone within an actual brain and who is capable of thinking more than 1 quarter into the future.
Apparently they do exist in Europe but I've never seen them
I shill for Costco whenever I can because this has been my experience too. Their employee badges have "member since" on them and there's a LOT of people who have been there for 15+ years. Also 2 dollars gets you a slice of pizza that takes up a whole paper plate.
It's true, and I think a big factor is they have a genuinely brilliant business model.
Basically they sell everything in bulk and roughly at cost, and make their whole profit from membership fees. This is brilliant because it creates upsides for all 3 parties involved:
the consumer gets cheap items
the brands selling things get large bulk sales negotiated in advance
Costco Canada employee here. Yeah there is a lot of corporate bullshit, but also a lot of good. I help send out pallets of stuff to local food banks and animal shelters every day. I have the mid level benefits that give me 80 percent of all my healthcare expenditures. All of them.
In two weeks I will top out on the pay scale at $34.40/hr. I started with Costco in 2022, and I'm just a returns clerk in the back, not a manager or supervisor.
In Canada it feels like a, "the enemy of my enemy" situation. Yes they're a massive US company, but our own grocery oligopoly doesn't feel great to support either. Shopping local is the best option, but cost can often be a problem.
I get the feeling that the golf is just the structure to get wasted and do mild exercise with tangential friends under the guise of career networking. It beats having to deal with the family.
Nah it's probably just certain clubs and perhaps even a regional thing. I know people who golf that are perfectly normal. It's just something fun to do, be out in nature, shoot the shit with friends and have a nice game among friends. They don't take it very seriously at all.
I went with them once and it was a fun time. The golf course we went to wasn't some kind of weird exclusive rich people club. Just a nice golf course with a rental place for equipment for visitors and a good restaurant/bar for lunch, drinks and dinner. We stayed for dinner and it was a good time. The golf course was full of regular folk having fun. There were no golf carts on this property, people just walked.
We were behind a group of girls who weren't very good and spent more time doing selfies and filming than actually playing the game. They had 7 people, which the course normally doesn't allow, but the management said they thought it wouldn't be that busy that day so allowed it. Normally they allow 4 people max, maybe 5 as an exception. Otherwise they need to split up as to not block a hole too long causing a line to form behind them. We opted to skip the hole they were on, so we would be in front of them and didn't have to wait all the time. The girls had enough by lunchtime and spent the rest of the day taking selfies at the bar. So we backtracked and did the hole we missed.
It was really fun, I was just very bad at it. My drives were very good, but my putting was awful. I only had mini-golf experience, so I thought it would be the other way around. But putting on an actual green with a real putter is something completely different from mini-golf it turns out.
This is far closer to my own experience with golfing. It's like people hear about the absolute worst case scenario of rich assholes, private clubs, and people who take things way too seriously, and then assume that those problems are inherent to golf itself.
The little bit of golfing I've done was always at public courses, and it was always just normal people around.
Because it already takes a huge cognitive dissonance to ignore the wanton environmental destruction that their hobby causes. It’s a self-selecting bunch that are able to ignore reality and lie to themselves about how a golf course is “nature” simply because the color green is present.
No, I really don’t have any hobbies that involve bulldozing sensitive environments and dumping huge amounts of petroleum-based nitrogen into the soil every day.
Have you heard of the idea of vegan plus bacon?
Something like someone said i would go vegan but i just love bacon. And the response was, ok, go vegan plus bacon.
Basically don't think of it as all or nothing. Being as vegan as you possibly can is better than not trying. Imperfect veganism still makes a difference.
I am working out a diet that is primarily vegan but get to keep chicken for now. Until i figure out something else to replace it. Also sometimes pork, but only sometimes.
If everyone did it there would be far less need for factory farming, harmful inhumane killing of animals and damage to the environment as we would all be eating sustainable and environmentally friendlier foods. Just with some bacon.
This mentality has me and my family eating dramatically less meat than we otherwise would and I hope to continue that slide, I think it's a great strategy most folks who want to try can use to get started.
I get it. In the end it's a half measure that allows lots of suffering and may keep folks comfortable with that in a way that a stricter commitment doesn't risk.
For me it kind of "unlocked" a focus toward harm reduction rather than promises to try hard someday, and allowed us to begin on the path. I'm not sure where we will stop, but we weren't on it before.
I know you're joking, but the bacteria itself often isn't what gets you sick. It's the waste products of the bacteria that gets you sick. Those don't cook out.
In the case of the lettuce parasites, cooking does render them safe.
I wasn't joking, kilt lettuce with potato cubes fried in the bacon fat and crumbles of crispy bacon is amazing.
You can also stirfry it with some garlic, and ginger, salt, and sugar, just make sure you get the oil super hot before you add the lettuce, cook for like 30 seconds, then throw in cornstarch slurry and remove from heat. Maybe fry it with some blanched carrots, bell pepper, w/e.
I almost bought some Taylor Farms salad mix from Costco yesterday before my wife pointed out the brand name (what can I say, it was on sale and I'm a sucker for a discount). Costco is better than most retailers, but there are still plenty of problematic brands that they do carry.
Like virtually every other US government body, the corporate capture of the USDA is nearly total, they are little more than a rubber stamp for whatever the meat industry feels is most profitable. It's been a long, long time since the US led in the world in the safety and cleanliness of our food production.
the big orange man wants americans to have government subsidized hamburgers so people think that food costs arent as insane as they are, but he refuses to say where he's getting it from. the general consensus seems to be that he's allowing the import of a bunch of meat that was rejected by other countries for failing to meet quality standards. because that's how you help struggling cattle ranchers, after all.
My vegan office mate keeps pushing this stuff. She loves it. Apparently it's entirely wheat gluten or something. I have to keep reminding her that I have Celiac, but you know how vegans are.
Tempeh and TVP are soybean products and also really good.
They're proteins with a meat-adjacent texture and a blank slate for flavor.
But seitan crisps up soooo good. There is this place near me that has these Korean seitan "boneless ribs" type thing with some wasabi/mustard sauce and my apologies to your sphincter but they would be worth it to try.
If you can afford to gamble $25 on the advice of an Internet stranger, do this:
Buy a 4lb bag of Vital Wheat gluten. (Can be aquired on Anthony's Goods website.)
Mix it about 50-50 with water, and just... do stuff with it.
Example1: Mix 350 grams of gluten powder with 450 grams of water (Optional 5 grams of MSG) and stir it together until it's a big blob. Pick it up and stretch it in every possible direction and knead the absolute shit out of it. Divide into 7 portions, and place on a greased cookie sheet. Bake at 250°F/120°C for about 2 hours. You now have a 50 grams of protein blob for each day of the week, to be sliced and dovided however you wish throughout the day.
Example2: Get a ripping hot skillet and dump in Some™ gluten powder and Approximately® twice as much water and vigorously stir it with, like, a fork or something like that, and dump some cooking oil on it as an afterthought, and dump some spices in it and boil off all the water to make a fake Taco meat mix. If it sticks, take it off the heat and add a splash of water to unstick it, and it's okay to jave juicy taco seitan crumbles. You actually cannot fuck this up.
Tried extracting gluten from flour before, then found out it doesn't work with wholemeal flour. Could try it again sometime, got white flour now because it was all I could get hold of.
I've made the seitan recipe printed on the back of Bob's Red Mill brand vital wheat gluten, and it had a taste and texture similar to bologna. It was actually pretty nice cold in a sandwich, and fried up in a pan. If that doesn't float your boat, there's about a billion ways to prepare beans, you're bound to like one of those.
I'm a fussy autist too, and I absolutely love soya, probably because it's so bland and umami. I used to make my own soya burgers. Tofu is lovely chopped, mixed with sweetcorn and thyme, wrapped in filo pastry parcels and baked. Apparently you can make tofu at home with lemon juice as the curdling agent. If I ever get my own place, I'd love to try it.
Tempeh looks like brains, and I spent weeks looking at the jar before I plucked up the courage to try it. It turns out it's really nice just breaded and baked. But the ones jarred in water taste better than the vacuum packed ones, which I've found to have more bitterness, even after steaming or boiling.
Making tempeh at home is a lot trickier as it uses fermentation.
Ironically, switching to a plant based diet in 2014 actually expanded the variety of food I ate by A LOT. Before that it was just potatoes and more potatoes, and if my executive dysfunction didn't get me, maybe a bit of boiled veg.
Seitan is pretty good, my only issue with it in a sando or with noodles is like... you're basically having wheat with wheat, it's too much for me. But served with vegetables and sauce, it's probably my favorite meat replacement
The amount of personal expression allowed is honestly impressive, and I love it. I saw an androgynous person wearing mild BDSM accessories working there and my thoughts were "go you, I'm so glad you're allowed to be yourself in the workplace."
Hopefully that kind of stuff can spread and we can get rid of treating workers as soulless drones elsewhere too.
You should message corporate. They would probably like to hear this. If you got enough people to mention it, it will reverse. Their buisness model depends on customers being happy and keeping/renewing their memberships.
Tried that. A few times. Some people agreed with that. Others were really upset by it. And ultimately nothing was done because the policy was instituted after a Karen complained about an employee wearing a rainbow pin.
That was not the Costco and was rather some idiot who was put into a management position. Chances are that if corporate learned of it they'd have something to say.
I've been around the ones in West Denver mainly and the impression I get is that people can wear largely whatever as long as they're doing their jobs, I could be wrong though
Support businesses that don't take any shit because then you know they actually care about providing a service in addition to making money, as opposed to strictly the latter no holds barred.
Costco was very clear with the tariffs that they would eat the cost and just sue because they felt it was illegal. Low and behold, it was illegal, and they are getting a refund after not raising costs like everyone else. And their customers loved them for it.
This is actually their entire buisness model as well. They don't really make much money from their products. They make almost 100% profit from their memberships. If I remember right, over 2/3 of their total profit comes from membership revenue. So if they piss people off and make them cancel their membership, that would really fuck them over.
Flock Contract? None of the stores around me have cameras, from what I've noticed. 'Least in comparison to the Lowes and Home Depot, they seem to wear it with pride.
Your local store may use a less identifiable ALPR such as the Axon models that are coming to light, or may somehow be unaffected, but all the ones in my area have straight up flock cameras outside of them.
'Preciate that, chief. Something that is notable though is that I can't find a reference to any external parties in their ALPR section. Usually you see some clause disclaiming that they "Collect this data through a third party that is not governed under this privacy notice," or something in that vein.
I am personally not going to give the benefit of the doubt to a corporation who I have witnessed working with Flock, or any entity using the 4th amendment breaking "ALPR" technology in general.
I think the worry isn't food poisoning or parasites, it's cancer from the latest imported beef.
Or maybe mad-cow. I just remember it was somehow worse than explosive diarrhea.
chloramphenicol - a banned for use in livestock antibiotic
So, the effects are rare. But China turned away beef that tested positive. Then the US government announced a mystery-origin meat to help lower prices. Maybe it was a false positive and a coincidence on the trade deal timing.
But I remember when mad cow disease was a concern. It was rare too. But also not a good way to die.
I feel like we are living the hypothetical, "if a bowl of skittles has up to 1% of them poisoned, do you eat them because your odds are decent?"
If I was only going to vomit a couple times, maybe if I'm hungry enough. If I'll die an agonizing death from a poisoned skittle, then no, I'll ty to find something else.
Is there a source for them not carrying the imported beef? I realize they have their own beef supply but I haven’t found anything where they’ve officially announced this.
do americans even realise how garbage their meat is?
No, they don't. Part of it is the media doesn't report on it, but part of it is it's illegal to take photos or get video from inside of slaughterhouses. Also, a lot of people don't want to know, because it would be inconvenient. They like the taste of meat, and they don't want to quit eating it.
the mass produced, factory butchered and packaged shit that might even be sent overseas for processing and come back.. yea, that shit can be pretty bad.. especially the 'tubes' of unknown origins.
the stuff raised out on the farm (sis' parents used to raise their own, 2 head at a time), or the neighbor's farm (where we all get it from now)? not the same product. not.even.close.
Those tend to have buyers from large meat processing plants.
That meat is then sold as premium grade, usually steak and roast cuts.
The rest is then used for ground meat, or pet feed.
Unless it's chicken. Then everyone is in the same leaky boat. Seriously, chicken is nasty. Every single country in the world has switched to fast growing chicks, that need to be slaughtered long before adulthood because they get too big to survive on their own.
Then they're too young to really develop flavor, so the processed meat has to be plumped further with injections of salted chicken broth.
The farm is only part of it. Whether they were raised on a factory farm or your neighbor's farm, they all go to the same slaughterhouse. Unless you know farmers who do their own slaughtering, which I highly doubt.
Second biggest beef producer (just a hair behind Brazil), but only fourth biggest exporter. Both of which are natural consequences of just being a large landmass.
Most US produced beef is banned in countries with actual food standards due to the use of artificial growth hormones.
If you cared to investigate the details of those growth hormones instead of parroting EU-centric fear campaigns you would see that there's no actual evidence that the minuscule remnants of hormones, nanograms per portion, are harmful. There were some unfounded claims in the 70s and 80s that made headlines and whipped the public into a panic which gave European governments a decent foundation to enact win-win protectionist trade policies. (The EU tends toward "prove it's safe" rather than "prove it's not", which is fine but becomes annoying when people then talk shit about stuff like the US banning the import of unpasteurized young cheese for legitimate health reasons.)
Until very recently the US had some of the best food safety records in the world, though admittedly a less impressive history of animal wellness and humane treatment.
Not sure if this is what they were talking about, but there are some Costcos that only sell to businesses. Have a bit of an uproar where I live because one downtown is switching to that, and there's not many other grocery options in the area.
The regular Costco members can still shop at a business center but the merchandise is not targeted towards them.
The business centers sell things like cases of cups, plates, disposable silverware, legs, shoulders and other large cuts of meat, cases of common restaurant ingredients, salt and pepper shakers in bulk for tables etc.
We go to the business center by us every so often because they carry real American cheese in bulk, not the Kraft garbage the regular Costco has.
It used to be like that in the US a few decades ago, and then they transitioned into a “professional store hours” and “public store hours” situation. Now they’ve scrapped the restrictions entirely for the normal warehouses and in highly populated areas they built more warehouses called “Costco Business” warehouses.
In Canada, you used to have to have a public service ID or select professional societies. They got rid of that a couple decades ago. Now you pay the free for a regular or executive membership and you're good.
You are a current or retired employee of an approved company that has been preapproved and an agreement has been arranged between your company and Costco Wholesale UK Limited.
Membership list of Pre Approved Businesses
As I understand from what I've read on there is to actually physically shop in their shops (rather than only only) it's that or be a business. Unless I'm completely mis reading it.
Fun US-Canada trade Trump demand. Canada should not be allowed to inspect US milk to detect if it is cancer milk instead of organic. I doubt Americans will be allowed to know if they are buying US prime or mystery meat pretending to be prime either.
People still have to survive. We still have to shop. Sorry I can't grow a food forest in my 800 sq. Ft. Apartment and live off composting my own shit to grow heirloom tomatos.
You got somewhere I can find food for cheap that at least gives the thinnest veneer of not trying to be as awful as possible? Do you? No, you're a shitstain hatemongrel who offers nothing but kicking people who don't have the priveledge of options in a capitalist hellscape.
Assuming you aren't one of those hate bots mentioned in a previous post then please quickly and permanently go fuck yourself.
Entirely depends on the local area. I have two Costcos in my area. I also have several farmers' markets, a co-op, and several grocers that sell fair trade and local products.
Even though Costco does a lot of good, they still have just the same amount of bad too. Just because they’re the healthier option doesn’t mean they’re healthy.
This is such a lukewarm thought. They're a grocery store. Of course they sell unhealthy options. They're being called out as noteworthy here because they go above and beyond other grocery stores and checking to make sure that the food is actually healthy and not going to give you diseases. Take your "both sides" style argument somewhere else.
I wouldn’t say so, it’s more open to a boarder view headed on the post and comments. I’m down to have a specific topic conversation if you like.
And my comment may be playing “both sides” but they’re not progressive enough for my taste.
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mkwt@lemmy.world · 163 pts · 1d
Wait... What?
pressedhams@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 221 pts · 1d
The golf club company ran an ad where a woman went to touch a golf club and her man pushed her down and threatened her for her transgression.
Costco stopped carrying their clubs in response
echodot@feddit.uk · 68 pts · 1d
Does the US not have some kind of advertising standards board that you have to get adverts approved before you're allowed to publicly post them?
ianhclark510@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 181 pts · 1d
We don’t have standards keeping the ass parasites out of the lettuce, take a second and ponder
huquad@lemmy.ml · 8 pts · 1d
Thank god it's just lettuce though... Right?
NoForwadSlashS@piefed.social · 11 pts · 1d
Only the salad eaters get the unstoppable diarrea. If you want the flesh eating worms you need to choose the beef.
huquad@lemmy.ml · 4 pts · 1d
If you eat both, you can let them fight it out in your gut
pressedhams@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 35 pts · 1d
Sadly it is on brand for the US. Really trying to bring back the good ole days where the white man can do whatever with impunity. Keeping women in their place, bare foot and pregnant without means.
Yeller_king@reddthat.com · 31 pts · 1d
We generally presume companies will choose not to do that to their own reputations, but apparently that presumption was wrong.
YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today · 9 pts · 1d
With economies of scale you end up with basically one producer producing stuff for incredibly cheap. Take poultry for example, Tyson is like the only name you'll see at major retailers. Even most store brands are just relabeled Tyson product. So it really doesn't matter to them if they get a couple people sick, cause we're else you gunna go? Blackbird farms, and pay $38 a chicken? Not the very large majority of price sensitive people living paycheck to paycheck.
zarkanian@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 1d
That sounds like it would go against the First Amendment.
btsax@reddthat.com · 1 pts · 6h
kestrel7_7@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 23h
Dude, no, this country is tragicomically fucked up!
HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club · 0 pts · 1d
Nope. Free speech.
echodot@feddit.uk · 20 pts · 1d
Free speech just protect you from the government, gone out of the window anyway as of late.
But even when free speech wasn't forced it wouldn't force channels to carry your advertisement.
zarkanian@sh.itjust.works · -1 pts · 1d
No, the First Amendment only protects you from the government. "Free speech" is a philosophical principle which has nothing to do with governments directly.
However, an "advertising standards board" that decides what can and cannot be posted publicly sounds pretty governmental to me.
Of course, but that still isn't any kind of universal standards board, that's individual channels deciding independently.
HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club · -9 pts · 1d
No one is boycotting the companies which showed the ad.
cowfodder@lemmy.zip · 16 pts · 1d
Imagine commenting this on a comment discussing how an entire retailer is boycotting one of the companies involved.
HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club · 1 pts · 1d
Yes, the company that made the ad. Unless something happened that I'm not aware of, nothing has happened to the marketing firm who made the ad nor the various companies who served the ad to audiences.
The question was phrased in a way asking if an ad platform ran it across their standards and practices to see if the ad should be aired. The ad was in poor taste, but it could be shown on network television so no one stopped it. The risk for showing a controversial ad is near zero. The only company dealing with a boycott is the company that was advertising its product.
Tippy@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 1d
That's not what free speech is. Free speech doesn't let you say whatever you want to anyone, it's intention is to protect you while speaking out against government officials and offices. Last I checked Callaway wasn't the 4th branch of the government, let's not give turkey neck any ideas.
The FCC should be regulating ads like this, but this is a clown country and capitalism says domestic violence is a viable commodity to sell.
HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club · 10 pts · 1d
While the topic was abhorrent and in bad taste, I don't think there was ever a time when the FCC banned jokes about spouse/family abuse.
The Honeymooners regularly joked about the husband finally breaking and beating his wife. I Love Lucy had an episode where Lucy tried to get a sunburn so Ricky wouldn't beat her as hard for buying an expensive dress. The Simpsons had Homer choking Bart as a running gag. All these shows were on Broadcast TV.
Tippy@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 1d
The FCC being useless and bought off still doesn't mean that Callaway gets special first amendment protections. They're a corporation, they aren't protected from consumers and retailers dropping their products for promoting crimes, or from potential lawsuits as a result of harmful marketing.
Again, this topic has nothing to do with free speech.
HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club · 2 pts · 1d
I bring it up because companies which broadcast and publish material are generally given greater deference by the public for showing material they disagree with. As long as the standards are adhered to evenly, the broadcaster isn't going to be boycotted for an ad. No one is boycotting the television stations and streamers for airing this ad; all the attention is going to Calloway.
The consequences of free speech are felt by those paying for it in public opinion, not those serving it.
zarkanian@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 1d
It sounds like you're getting freedom of speech mixed up with the First Amendment. They aren't the same thing. The First Amendment's intention is to protect your freedom of speech from the government. If you want your freedom of speech protected from other things (such as your employer), the First Amendment won't protect you.
Tippy@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 1d
No sir, no confusion here. You and I both said the same thing. Freedom of speech / free speech are the same thing in the US, a very specific legal construct under the first amendment, which many people don't understand the boundaries of. I have a degree in this field, so I'm pretty up to speed on basic civil rights. Hence why I questioned the other user on why they think costco boycotting callaway because of a gross chud ad had anything to do with a law that deals with government overreach.
Now if the ad depicted the dude tackling Trump to the ground and threatening him for touching their underage caddy, and the FBI raided their offices in response, NOW we'd be talking about a first amendment issue as that'd be direct political commentary and an illegal response by the government.
zarkanian@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 1d
I'm not talking about the legal construct, though. I'm talking about the philosophical principle.
Earthwormjim91@lemmy.world · 56 pts · 1d
To be fair, it wasn't Callaway directly. It was Good Good Golf, a golf youtube channel, that aired the ad. Callaway had a partnership with them to cobrand the golf club, but dropped Good Good immediately after the ad and canceled the branded club.
Callaway still deserves the backlash from associating with them though and apparently someone giving the ok for the ad.
pressedhams@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 29 pts · 1d
Thank you for the added context. It is slightly less worse, but still bad.
inb4_FoundTheVegan@lemmy.world · 89 pts · 1d
Video of the ad.
It's such a gross concept. Wild anyone thought this was a funny, gotta be pretty deep in bro to not see red flags.
Th3D3k0y@lemmy.world · 40 pts · 1d
Like what is the point they are trying to make even?
Is the club so fragile that it'll break if touched?
Golfers are seriously superstitious?
Women suck and can't golf?
If anything it would have been a better commercial to do the opposite, hand the club out to literally everyone that's playing and they all hit better.
VitoRobles@lemmy.today · 11 pts · 1d
"Our golf clubs are so good, it'll make you want to beat a woman." Callaway Golf Clubs
RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1d
No, they're playing on a fetish, just like sexy women in a car ad, but infinitely grosser.
prettybunnys@piefed.social · 1 pts · 14h
They claim they were trying to riff on the movie obsession.
Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 37 pts · 1d
I mean, ‘golf company owner’ is already selecting for the biggest chud in existence.
echodot@feddit.uk · 12 pts · 1d
Personally I think that if you set out to invent the most boring sport you wouldn't be able to beat golf but I accept that some people strangely do find it attractive and they're not all toxic masculinity "alpha" types, so they should really have seen that one coming.
Zombie@feddit.uk · 10 pts · 1d
I don't like golf, but at least it gives you an afternoon's walk in something resembling nature
Cricket on the other hand, takes a week to play and is just running back and forth
ayyy@sh.itjust.works · 10 pts · 1d
There is absolutely nothing about a golf course that resembles nature. It’s nothing but chemicals and underpaid guys with gas fume belching machines.
If you want a wandering outdoor sport with real nature, try out frisbee golf or field archery. They also have the bonus of not destroying habitats and polluting local waterways with way too much nitrogen fertilizer.
Zombie@feddit.uk · 8 pts · 1d
Aye and no. Don't get me wrong, golf courses are as you say fertiliser polluted and lacking in biodiversity. But the rough, surrounding the whole course, and the woods they're often placed in certainly resemble nature. There's still birds, foxes, squirrels, etc, going about.
Certainly in Scotland at least, which is my only personal experience of courses. And being the home of golf I don't think it's disingenuous for me to use that as a basis for the claim.
I have seen videos and pictures of courses in places like Florida though and if a Scottish course is a tragedy of nature, a Florida course is an abomination.
ayyy@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 1d
You’re right that Scotland and a few other places with a climate identical to Scotland it’s fine. That is a very small portion of the world’s golf courses.
wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz · 2 pts · 1d
Is it true that golf was invented when someone wacked the severed head of a goblin down a rabbit hole with a shillelagh?
Wildmimic@anarchist.nexus · 3 pts · 1d
I haven't played golf yet (only minigolf), but i could see me enjoying it on a warm spring day with some clouds to take a stroll on the green while actually pursuing a specific goal. But I would rather take a walk in the woods, which is a much more relaxing area to be in.
greedytacothief@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 1d
I'm quite fond of golf (it's really cheap to play near me) and honestly there's a steep learning curve. And it's only fun once you get past that. But I like how you get instant feedback on how you did, especially if you play with friends. Improving at golf feels great, but I imagine it kinda sucks once you plateau.
YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 1d
It's fun to play, but I really don't understand how people watch it regularly.
captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 1d
Croquet is more boring than golf. And I fucking hate golf and golfers.
Omega_Jimes@lemmy.ca · 24 pts · 1d
I'm NGL, initially i thought "This is probably one of those wacky ads taken out of context." And no, it's really really super gross. There's nothing humorous about it, it's just a really serious ad about pushing down and threatening a woman who touches your golf club.
It wouldn't be any better if the victim was a man either. The fact that there's no other words except 'the victim' is telling.
GraniteM@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 11h
It's all so... plausible. His shove, her little cry of pain and surprise and fear, the way he leans down and tells her not to touch his club and then stalks away and furiously grabs the club as he leaves. The ad would have been better if it had been escalated to Looney Tunes levels of reaction, but instead they leave it in this alarmingly real area of domestic violence.
pelespirit@sh.itjust.works · 17 pts · 1d
Lmao, "This is not who I am." Dude, you're not an actor, you seemed to do the thing pretty well
ultranaut@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 1d
That was so much more fucked up than I expected. This has to be intentional, it is very hard to believe that anyone thought this made for a good commercial in any way other than to appeal to chuds who enjoy violence against women. It is blatant and explicit, the mask is off.
13igTyme@piefed.social · 12 pts · 1d
Even if it was a guy pushing another guy I don't see how that would've ever been a funny spoof skit.
lemmyng@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 1d
There was no way to salvage this.
Say the guy had just grabbed the woman's arm or put his arm in front of her to stop her instead. You still have that threat he makes towards her.
Even if that threat was changed to "no one touches my club except me", you still have that underlying implication of a threat.
There's no universe that could've salvaged this.
Protoknuckles@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 1d
I think the only way would be to have it be Bart and Homer replicating the old Butterfinger ads with Homer's golf club.
historicaldocuments@lemmy.world · -4 pts · 1d
So if you walk into an electronics lab and see a piece of equipment with squee 😍 all these cool dials! 😍 and 🥰 🥰 lights!!! 🥰 🥰 and a threatening 😠 sign that says "don't touch," and you turn a dial just a little, but you totally didn't hurt anything, who was in the wrong now that the equipment isn't calibrated? The person for making the threatening sign? The person for leaving their equipment where any toddler could get to it? Or the the toddler for not having agency enough to know not to touch something that doesn't belong to them? Are you going to pay for the engineering time it took a team to calibrate the equipment for a First Article Test the next week? You're going to pay for the customers to fly back home after flying in on a Sunday for a Monday/Tuesday test that now can't happen?
Just because you don't assign a value to a golf club doesn't mean it doesn't have a value to the person who bought it, trained with it, and went through the effort to carry it somewhere to play golf. And golf clubs or engineering labs aside, you don't seem like you've ever had something broken by someone else before you even got a chance to use it. Are you going to refund the guy's once in a lifetime golf vacation because you don't know what forces a graphite shaft can/can't withstand? Are you going to replace his grandpa's headcover that he uses because it reminds him of his deceased grandpa teaching him golf?
The engineering lab would obviously have access controls because of people who don't understand what they're doing. Someone's golf clubs on a golf course, within sight of the owner and within asking distance to see if it's OK to look at one can usually rely on common sense and etiquette. Usually...
ellen.kimble@piefed.social · 3 pts · 1d
That’s no excuse for violence
historicaldocuments@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 15h
You're lucky to live such a charmed life to be so wealthy that you can absorb an infinite amount of the universe's shots at you.
Seleni@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 1d
So you agree with the ad’s message then? That violently shoving people to the ground if they reach for your golf clubs without asking is okay?
historicaldocuments@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 15h
Again, you're assigning a value of zero to someone else's property.
If you're on your way to your landlord with $500 to make rent for the month and get mugged it's a lot different if you've got plenty of money in the bank and need to make another trip to retreive more versus if it's the last $500 you had to your name and you get evicted for not making rent.
To prove my point, kindly take your most prized possession and destroy it. Post pictures here when you're done for verification and open another thread moaning about how your stuff is broken and there's nothing you could've done to stop it from happening.
I never said that and you shouldn't put words in my mouth. I didn't think people being secure in their property was such a debatable topic, but at least I understand now why invite-only, membership-required golf courses exist.
RickyRigatoni@piefed.zip · 8 pts · 1d
holy shit lmao. i can just imagine all the people involved in making this chuckling to themselves over how funny they think it is.
VitoRobles@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 1d
I work in marketing. There's a point where where you make so much money you honestly believe you take massive shits and everyone thinks it smells great.
enkille@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 1d
i had to watch an ad before i got to watch the ad
Enekk@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 1d
To add just a little bit of extra "fuck you" to the situation, this was the first advertisement from Callaway featuring women. Practically progressive!
0ops@piefed.zip · 3 pts · 1d
That was probably the worst ad I've ever seen. Concept, execution, humor, morality, all terrible. There's not one redeeming factor here.
k0e3@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 11h
That's an ad? It looks like such low quality garbage shot on some dumbass's phone.
QueenHawlSera@piefed.social · 39 pts · 1d
Looked it up, apparently they did an Obsession parody, but no one got the reference so it looked like the CEO of the company just pushed a woman to the ground for trying to touch his golf clubs.
I've seen the ad, I didn't get the reference either. I haven't seen Obsession, but apparently that's what that was in reference to.....
If you have to be told what the reference is, you're probably not doing references right.
finalarbiter@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 10 pts · 1d
I honestly don't give a fuck if it was a reference to something, depicting violence against women to protect your fucking golf clubs from cooties or whatever is wildly unacceptable. The fact that even the script got approved is mind boggling, let alone that the shoot, editing, and distribution all pushed it through.
Callaway is now on my 'never buy, even used or on sale' list.
YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today · 5 pts · 1d
Na, I'm cool with buying second hand preemo stuff. My money isn't going to them, and no one is going to notice the logo flying 300 yards through the air.
cactusupyourbutt@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 1d
you throw your golf clubs 300 yards?
YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today · 4 pts · 1d
Only the sand wedge.
QueenHawlSera@piefed.social · -1 pts · 1d
Personally I don't think any anti-woman message was intended by it.
I don't think this is anywhere on the level of "Has good jeans/genes"
That said I don't play golf so I wasn't going to buy the clubs even if it was a transwoman shoving Elon Musk
YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today · 6 pts · 1d
Thank you for the context! I've seen the ad in passing and really for the life of me, couldn't understand why anyone thought that was a good idea. Now I kinda get it. It's still terrible, but at least it's not just "haha, hurting women funny".
Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 1d
It is awfully suspicious how they make this ad after the CEO sells a bunch of stock while also doing this during a stock buyback.
QueenHawlSera@piefed.social · 2 pts · 23h
Some have theorized the ad was done intentionally to make the stock buyback cheaper
ellen.kimble@piefed.social · 0 pts · 1d
Why did it have to be his partner he pushed down helpless? Why couldn’t he push down a friend guy?
ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de · -16 pts · 1d
A joke ad that was blown way out of proportion by a bunch of people saying it promoted women's violence. An overreaction.
buddascrayon@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 1d
A woman reaches for his club and he violently SHOVES her to the ground. How is that in any way not violence against a woman.
ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de · -12 pts · 1d
It was the guys IRL girlfriend and it was an obvious joke commercial. It could have easily been the same commercial with the girlfriend shoving the guy if they were her clubs or a guy shoving his brother and no one would have batted an eye.
Also, you say "violently shoves" and that's what it was supposed to be made to look like, but if you actually look at the commercial he barely pushes her at all. It had nothing to do with being sexist or promoting violence against women. It was a funny lil "don't touch my golf club" commercial that had nothing to do with promoting violence.
VitoRobles@lemmy.today · 8 pts · 1d
You keep saying "joke commercial". What was the joke?
ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de · -4 pts · 1d
That someone would violently guard against having their golf club touched.
ellen.kimble@piefed.social · 5 pts · 1d
But he didn’t depict the other way around, they depicted a man shoving a woman down on the ground over a golf club. Nothing is funny about that and perpetuates the idea that this is ok for younger generations
ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de · -6 pts · 1d
Anyone who would actually believe it's acceptable to shove tackle anyone down from touching a golf club is an idiot. The fact that you're harping over an ad where it was a guy doing it to a woman is just the proof of that. Sounds like you're sexist.
VitoRobles@lemmy.today · 5 pts · 1d
What was the joke?
village604@adultswim.fan · 89 pts · 1d
They also ate the cost of the tariffs instead of raising prices
echodot@feddit.uk · 65 pts · 1d
Every time I hear anything about Costco it always seems to be the only US company that's run by someone within an actual brain and who is capable of thinking more than 1 quarter into the future.
Apparently they do exist in Europe but I've never seen them
SkyezOpen@lemmy.world · 28 pts · 1d
I shill for Costco whenever I can because this has been my experience too. Their employee badges have "member since" on them and there's a LOT of people who have been there for 15+ years. Also 2 dollars gets you a slice of pizza that takes up a whole paper plate.
Paradachshund@lemmy.today · 24 pts · 1d
It's true, and I think a big factor is they have a genuinely brilliant business model.
Basically they sell everything in bulk and roughly at cost, and make their whole profit from membership fees. This is brilliant because it creates upsides for all 3 parties involved:
eestileib@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 1d
They are in Canada too, and yeah they are the best US store chain by far. Still don't buy from them tho
Worstdriver@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 1d
Costco Canada employee here. Yeah there is a lot of corporate bullshit, but also a lot of good. I help send out pallets of stuff to local food banks and animal shelters every day. I have the mid level benefits that give me 80 percent of all my healthcare expenditures. All of them.
In two weeks I will top out on the pay scale at $34.40/hr. I started with Costco in 2022, and I'm just a returns clerk in the back, not a manager or supervisor.
LeScoops@piefed.ca · 10 pts · 1d
In Canada it feels like a, "the enemy of my enemy" situation. Yes they're a massive US company, but our own grocery oligopoly doesn't feel great to support either. Shopping local is the best option, but cost can often be a problem.
eestileib@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 1d
True enough. I'd rather keep money from flowing south tho.
manxu@piefed.social · 2 pts · 1d
I think there are two Costco stores in Paris. Not sure about anywhere else.
YurkshireLad@lemmy.ca · 58 pts · 1d
Trump’s Mystery Meat - a topic no one ever wants to discuss. Ever.
Smug_Marmot@lemmy.zip · 18 pts · 1d
And yet has been discussed publicly, at large, in court, and even during a presidential address or two, albeit indirectly.
thesohoriots@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 1d
Nay!
umbraroze@slrpnk.net · 38 pts · 1d
rounding_error@lemmy.today · 35 pts · 1d
Why are golfers so weird…?
HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club · 23 pts · 1d
I get the feeling that the golf is just the structure to get wasted and do mild exercise with tangential friends under the guise of career networking. It beats having to deal with the family.
Thorry@feddit.org · 11 pts · 1d
Nah it's probably just certain clubs and perhaps even a regional thing. I know people who golf that are perfectly normal. It's just something fun to do, be out in nature, shoot the shit with friends and have a nice game among friends. They don't take it very seriously at all.
I went with them once and it was a fun time. The golf course we went to wasn't some kind of weird exclusive rich people club. Just a nice golf course with a rental place for equipment for visitors and a good restaurant/bar for lunch, drinks and dinner. We stayed for dinner and it was a good time. The golf course was full of regular folk having fun. There were no golf carts on this property, people just walked.
We were behind a group of girls who weren't very good and spent more time doing selfies and filming than actually playing the game. They had 7 people, which the course normally doesn't allow, but the management said they thought it wouldn't be that busy that day so allowed it. Normally they allow 4 people max, maybe 5 as an exception. Otherwise they need to split up as to not block a hole too long causing a line to form behind them. We opted to skip the hole they were on, so we would be in front of them and didn't have to wait all the time. The girls had enough by lunchtime and spent the rest of the day taking selfies at the bar. So we backtracked and did the hole we missed.
It was really fun, I was just very bad at it. My drives were very good, but my putting was awful. I only had mini-golf experience, so I thought it would be the other way around. But putting on an actual green with a real putter is something completely different from mini-golf it turns out.
IrateAnteater@sh.itjust.works · 8 pts · 1d
This is far closer to my own experience with golfing. It's like people hear about the absolute worst case scenario of rich assholes, private clubs, and people who take things way too seriously, and then assume that those problems are inherent to golf itself.
The little bit of golfing I've done was always at public courses, and it was always just normal people around.
ayyy@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 1d
Because it already takes a huge cognitive dissonance to ignore the wanton environmental destruction that their hobby causes. It’s a self-selecting bunch that are able to ignore reality and lie to themselves about how a golf course is “nature” simply because the color green is present.
Krumm@lemmy.world · -8 pts · 1d
Good thing you don't have any hobbies like that. You just jerk your meat on the dark like a good boy.
ayyy@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 1d
No, I really don’t have any hobbies that involve bulldozing sensitive environments and dumping huge amounts of petroleum-based nitrogen into the soil every day.
You’re telling on yourself.
Krumm@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 13h
You don't ever drive in a vehicle to go anywhere? Or buy goods shipped on large shipping vessel on the ocean?
You're posting on the Internet which famously uses no energy or water, like data centers. You're a lair and a dumb one.
ayyy@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 12h
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hobby
cranakis@reddthat.com · 35 pts · 23h
I'll pile on. They threw their weight in and fought back against the tariffs also: https://www.npr.org/2025/12/03/nx-s1-5628405/costco-sues-the-trump-administration-over-tariffs
Stolas@lemmy.ca · 24 pts · 1d
Just don't eat meat, it's better for everyone that way.
axx@slrpnk.net · 14 pts · 1d
This is the ethically and factually correct approach.
adhdsergio@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 1d
Yes, but i honestly can't stop myself
Mr_Dr_Oink@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 1d
Have you heard of the idea of vegan plus bacon? Something like someone said i would go vegan but i just love bacon. And the response was, ok, go vegan plus bacon.
Basically don't think of it as all or nothing. Being as vegan as you possibly can is better than not trying. Imperfect veganism still makes a difference.
I am working out a diet that is primarily vegan but get to keep chicken for now. Until i figure out something else to replace it. Also sometimes pork, but only sometimes.
If everyone did it there would be far less need for factory farming, harmful inhumane killing of animals and damage to the environment as we would all be eating sustainable and environmentally friendlier foods. Just with some bacon.
PolarKraken@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 6 pts · 1d
This mentality has me and my family eating dramatically less meat than we otherwise would and I hope to continue that slide, I think it's a great strategy most folks who want to try can use to get started.
axx@slrpnk.net · 0 pts · 6h
As an ethical vegan, I both love and hate this.
PolarKraken@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 1h
I get it. In the end it's a half measure that allows lots of suffering and may keep folks comfortable with that in a way that a stricter commitment doesn't risk.
For me it kind of "unlocked" a focus toward harm reduction rather than promises to try hard someday, and allowed us to begin on the path. I'm not sure where we will stop, but we weren't on it before.
Stolas@lemmy.ca · 6 pts · 1d
Just avoid buying it.
Simply avoiding meat is a lot easier than going completely vegan. You have a very good motivator to do so right now too.
Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz · 2 pts · 1d
Have you tried petting a cow? I eat way less beef after a random cow on the side of the road rolled over so I could rub its belly.
Duamerthrax@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 1d
Doesn't fix this issue though. The lettuce and tofu are contaminated now.
Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz · 2 pts · 1d
Cook the lettuce, and you should have already been cooking the tofu.
Duamerthrax@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 1d
I know you're joking, but the bacteria itself often isn't what gets you sick. It's the waste products of the bacteria that gets you sick. Those don't cook out.
Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz · 2 pts · 1d
In the case of the lettuce parasites, cooking does render them safe.
I wasn't joking, kilt lettuce with potato cubes fried in the bacon fat and crumbles of crispy bacon is amazing.
You can also stirfry it with some garlic, and ginger, salt, and sugar, just make sure you get the oil super hot before you add the lettuce, cook for like 30 seconds, then throw in cornstarch slurry and remove from heat. Maybe fry it with some blanched carrots, bell pepper, w/e.
Theres also soup.
Duamerthrax@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 15h
Yeah, I'm not cooking lettuce. I'll just grow my own lettuce for salad and collard greens for cooking.
Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz · 1 pts · 15h
You don't know what you're missing, cooked lettuce has been a thing in appalachia for ages, and literally the only way lettuce is prepared in China.
Entertain529@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 1d
If only..
grue@lemmy.world · 22 pts · 1d
I almost bought some Taylor Farms salad mix from Costco yesterday before my wife pointed out the brand name (what can I say, it was on sale and I'm a sucker for a discount). Costco is better than most retailers, but there are still plenty of problematic brands that they do carry.
khepri@lemmy.world · 22 pts · 1d
Like virtually every other US government body, the corporate capture of the USDA is nearly total, they are little more than a rubber stamp for whatever the meat industry feels is most profitable. It's been a long, long time since the US led in the world in the safety and cleanliness of our food production.
FatherPeanut@pawb.social · 22 pts · 1d
I feel slightly out of touch here, what's up with this Trump Mystery Meat?
kieron115@startrek.website · 49 pts · 23h
the big orange man wants americans to have government subsidized hamburgers so people think that food costs arent as insane as they are, but he refuses to say where he's getting it from. the general consensus seems to be that he's allowing the import of a bunch of meat that was rejected by other countries for failing to meet quality standards. because that's how you help struggling cattle ranchers, after all.
Napster153@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 23h
"We have Russian Mobniks cube at home,"
-said the Americans.
guyoverthere123@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 10 pts · 1d
Word is the mystery meat is all that Argentine beef that was recalled recently.
Jaysyn@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 15h
The meat was rejected by China due to the high amount of neurotoxic antibiotics they detected in it.
01189998819991197253@infosec.pub · 2 pts · 3h
So, USA is getting meats that china rejected? Lol the irony
im_fine_sandy@nord.pub · 2 pts · 22h
WDYM "that was recalled recently"? How would that work?
Isn't this meat going to be available long term?
I had thought they didn't disclose the origin simply because their abatoirs are not compliant with US standards.
boonhet@sopuli.xyz · 8 pts · 14h
Doesn't need to be available long term, the freedom gas didn't stay cheap either. Just gotta get it into the news cycle for a bit.
Thebeardedsinglemalt@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 13h
Yeah and turns out everyone involved in that operation is kind of a piece of shit, and the fuel was stolen
itsgroundhogdayagain@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 14h
Also, they've been rounding up wild horses too so we've got that possibility as well as the Argentina tainted beef.
remon@ani.social · 3 pts · 13h
Why would bother with possibly tainted beef if you have horses?
melsaskca@lemmy.ca · 21 pts · 14h
Costco is a good, socially responsible corporation, most aren't.
umbrella@lemmy.ml · -2 pts · 11h
can't tell if you and this oop is serious lol
wingnut@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 3h
There had to be at least one?
umbrella@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 2h
one what?
MashedTech@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 1h
In its dying palm, the world holds one last flake of hope:
a chip of faded paint,
scraped from the logo of an empire
that outlived its promise.
umbrella@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 1h
yeah that's how it feels like.
halezinflames@lemmus.org · 20 pts · 1d
I might have to go vegetarian if this is the future of meat thanks to Trump.
JasonDJ@lemmy.zip · 26 pts · 1d
Come, join us, as we feast on seitan.
Crackhappy@lemmy.world · 28 pts · 23h
Hail Seitan!
NewSocialWhoDis@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 11h
My vegan office mate keeps pushing this stuff. She loves it. Apparently it's entirely wheat gluten or something. I have to keep reminding her that I have Celiac, but you know how vegans are.
JasonDJ@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 10h
Tempeh and TVP are soybean products and also really good.
They're proteins with a meat-adjacent texture and a blank slate for flavor.
But seitan crisps up soooo good. There is this place near me that has these Korean seitan "boneless ribs" type thing with some wasabi/mustard sauce and my apologies to your sphincter but they would be worth it to try.
5318008@lemmy.ml · 14 pts · 1d
If you can afford to gamble $25 on the advice of an Internet stranger, do this:
Buy a 4lb bag of Vital Wheat gluten. (Can be aquired on Anthony's Goods website.)
Mix it about 50-50 with water, and just... do stuff with it.
Example1: Mix 350 grams of gluten powder with 450 grams of water (Optional 5 grams of MSG) and stir it together until it's a big blob. Pick it up and stretch it in every possible direction and knead the absolute shit out of it. Divide into 7 portions, and place on a greased cookie sheet. Bake at 250°F/120°C for about 2 hours. You now have a 50 grams of protein blob for each day of the week, to be sliced and dovided however you wish throughout the day.
Example2: Get a ripping hot skillet and dump in Some™ gluten powder and Approximately® twice as much water and vigorously stir it with, like, a fork or something like that, and dump some cooking oil on it as an afterthought, and dump some spices in it and boil off all the water to make a fake Taco meat mix. If it sticks, take it off the heat and add a splash of water to unstick it, and it's okay to jave juicy taco seitan crumbles. You actually cannot fuck this up.
Enjoy.
HerbGrower@slrpnk.net · 4 pts · 11h
Eat beans! Vast majority of people are getting too little fiber. Don't think wheat gluten has any either.
5318008@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 7h
Yes, eat more than one kind of thing, obviously.
HerbGrower@slrpnk.net · 1 pts · 6h
Tried extracting gluten from flour before, then found out it doesn't work with wholemeal flour. Could try it again sometime, got white flour now because it was all I could get hold of.
halezinflames@lemmus.org · 2 pts · 1d
Will have to see if I like that, that sounds strange but probably better than Trump meat
zalgotext@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 23h
I've made the seitan recipe printed on the back of Bob's Red Mill brand vital wheat gluten, and it had a taste and texture similar to bologna. It was actually pretty nice cold in a sandwich, and fried up in a pan. If that doesn't float your boat, there's about a billion ways to prepare beans, you're bound to like one of those.
halezinflames@lemmus.org · 6 pts · 20h
I'm a picky eater (thanks, autism) but I'm sure I will find something that works for me. Thanks for the tips
DakRalter@thelemmy.club · 5 pts · 17h
I'm a fussy autist too, and I absolutely love soya, probably because it's so bland and umami. I used to make my own soya burgers. Tofu is lovely chopped, mixed with sweetcorn and thyme, wrapped in filo pastry parcels and baked. Apparently you can make tofu at home with lemon juice as the curdling agent. If I ever get my own place, I'd love to try it.
Tempeh looks like brains, and I spent weeks looking at the jar before I plucked up the courage to try it. It turns out it's really nice just breaded and baked. But the ones jarred in water taste better than the vacuum packed ones, which I've found to have more bitterness, even after steaming or boiling.
Making tempeh at home is a lot trickier as it uses fermentation.
Ironically, switching to a plant based diet in 2014 actually expanded the variety of food I ate by A LOT. Before that it was just potatoes and more potatoes, and if my executive dysfunction didn't get me, maybe a bit of boiled veg.
halezinflames@lemmus.org · 1 pts · 4h
yeah, i'll certainly see what happens.
kestrel7_7@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 23h
Seitan is pretty good, my only issue with it in a sando or with noodles is like... you're basically having wheat with wheat, it's too much for me. But served with vegetables and sauce, it's probably my favorite meat replacement
OryxAndCake@slrpnk.net · 3 pts · 23h
Switch to rye bread and rice noodles and problem solved.
minorkeys@sh.itjust.works · 18 pts · 1d
Costco is the Bernie Sanders of retail.
stoly@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 1d
Notice that all the employees there smile and laugh as they work. It’s heartening.
ouRKaoS@lemmy.today · 9 pts · 1d
Welcome to Costco. We love you.
1rre@discuss.tchncs.de · 6 pts · 1d
The amount of personal expression allowed is honestly impressive, and I love it. I saw an androgynous person wearing mild BDSM accessories working there and my thoughts were "go you, I'm so glad you're allowed to be yourself in the workplace."
Hopefully that kind of stuff can spread and we can get rid of treating workers as soulless drones elsewhere too.
muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 1d
Our local Costco banned rainbows and compared them to swasticas. So I don’t go there anymore.
MrEff@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 23h
You should message corporate. They would probably like to hear this. If you got enough people to mention it, it will reverse. Their buisness model depends on customers being happy and keeping/renewing their memberships.
muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 22h
Tried that. A few times. Some people agreed with that. Others were really upset by it. And ultimately nothing was done because the policy was instituted after a Karen complained about an employee wearing a rainbow pin.
stoly@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 12h
That was not the Costco and was rather some idiot who was put into a management position. Chances are that if corporate learned of it they'd have something to say.
1rre@discuss.tchncs.de · 1 pts · 13h
Yikes... Where is that, so I can avoid the area?
I've been around the ones in West Denver mainly and the impression I get is that people can wear largely whatever as long as they're doing their jobs, I could be wrong though
mursejoy@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 1d
It is the number one reason I keep coming back all these years. There are employees whose tenure rivals my age.
Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 1d
Except for the people who run the hotdog thing, they are miserable. Maybe that's just my store...
jack_of_sandwich@lemmy.sdf.org · 1 pts · 2h
They don't even welcome me to costco and tell me they love me....
Tooks@piefed.social · 17 pts · 1d
Maga meat is deported immigrants. Sounds crazy, but wasn't long ago they were telling the world Ohioans were "eating the pets."
He's had to have eaten at least one child post rape, right? I mean, that's his modus operandi.
Also, never met a golfer I could tolerate for more than 20 seconds. Mini golf is where the real ones play.
qarbone@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 1d
All correct except the golf. You can't pretend cracking drives ain't therapeutic.
Sure, so would smashing in some billionaire kneecaps. But we don't have courses for that.
...Unless, you just do it on golf courses? Hold on, I'm doing my own thing now
Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 1d
That's why they put a driving range next to the putt, putt.
YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today · 6 pts · 1d
I got a course with a pirate ship closeish by. It makes me feel like a real adult playing it.
Tooks@piefed.social · 4 pts · 1d
As it should!
anarchy79@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 1d
As much as this is basically an ad, I agree.
Support businesses that don't take any shit because then you know they actually care about providing a service in addition to making money, as opposed to strictly the latter no holds barred.
MrEff@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 23h
Costco was very clear with the tariffs that they would eat the cost and just sue because they felt it was illegal. Low and behold, it was illegal, and they are getting a refund after not raising costs like everyone else. And their customers loved them for it.
This is actually their entire buisness model as well. They don't really make much money from their products. They make almost 100% profit from their memberships. If I remember right, over 2/3 of their total profit comes from membership revenue. So if they piss people off and make them cancel their membership, that would really fuck them over.
Worstdriver@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 6h
Costco Canada employee here...
Idk if it's the same in the US, but up here the highest markup on anything is 14% above cost.
MrEff@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 4h
I think it is about the same here.
mursejoy@lemmy.zip · 6 pts · 1d
Who would’ve thought that doing the right thing is good for public sentiment.
Turret3857@infosec.pub · 15 pts · 1d
waiting for them to drop their flock contract.
cmbabul@slrpnk.net · 3 pts · 1d
I’m not holding my breath
FatherPeanut@pawb.social · 3 pts · 1d
Flock Contract? None of the stores around me have cameras, from what I've noticed. 'Least in comparison to the Lowes and Home Depot, they seem to wear it with pride.
Turret3857@infosec.pub · 6 pts · 1d
Your local store may use a less identifiable ALPR such as the Axon models that are coming to light, or may somehow be unaffected, but all the ones in my area have straight up flock cameras outside of them.
ALPRs are mentioned in their privacy policy: https://www.costco.com/f/-/privacy-policy
FatherPeanut@pawb.social · 3 pts · 1d
'Preciate that, chief. Something that is notable though is that I can't find a reference to any external parties in their ALPR section. Usually you see some clause disclaiming that they "Collect this data through a third party that is not governed under this privacy notice," or something in that vein.
Turret3857@infosec.pub · 2 pts · 1d
I am personally not going to give the benefit of the doubt to a corporation who I have witnessed working with Flock, or any entity using the 4th amendment breaking "ALPR" technology in general.
bitwolf@sh.itjust.works · 15 pts · 1d
I haven't had meat since I heard the laws were relaxed.
Haven't had a hard time at all. Beans, seitan, impossible meat. It's all delicious!
Never going back.
surewhynotlem@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 1d
My daughter started calling Seitan "wheat meat", and that's its name now.
bitwolf@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 1d
You're right that's a one way road 😂 It's forever wheat meat to us now too
phx@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 1d
I wouldn't be surprised if beans are the next thing in their list of stuff to ruin.
rethnor@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 1d
Goya beans
Drusas@fedia.io · 0 pts · 1d
Sadly, it's more common to get food-borne illness from (uncooked) produce than from meat.
ericatty@infosec.pub · 3 pts · 1d
I think the worry isn't food poisoning or parasites, it's cancer from the latest imported beef. Or maybe mad-cow. I just remember it was somehow worse than explosive diarrhea.
T156@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1d
Was it not metal contamination? The cows had screws and worms in them or something.
ericatty@infosec.pub · 3 pts · 1d
chloramphenicol - a banned for use in livestock antibiotic
So, the effects are rare. But China turned away beef that tested positive. Then the US government announced a mystery-origin meat to help lower prices. Maybe it was a false positive and a coincidence on the trade deal timing.
But I remember when mad cow disease was a concern. It was rare too. But also not a good way to die.
I feel like we are living the hypothetical, "if a bowl of skittles has up to 1% of them poisoned, do you eat them because your odds are decent?"
If I was only going to vomit a couple times, maybe if I'm hungry enough. If I'll die an agonizing death from a poisoned skittle, then no, I'll ty to find something else.
OryxAndCake@slrpnk.net · 2 pts · 22h
Screw worm is a parasitic blowfly that eats by burrowing into living mammal flesh.
HotsauceHurricane@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 1d
AT this point its the only place i trust with my food.
khannie@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 1d
This is such an 1800's sentence. Not aimed at you it's just.... Mental.
HotsauceHurricane@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 1d
I get it. 😂 definitely not buying dairy or eggs anywhere else. I can gt local veggies easily.
buddascrayon@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1d
AFAIK Aldi and Trader Joe's are pretty safe as well.
ironpangolin29@lemmy.ca · 14 pts · 1d
The meat comes from Russia I'd wager . The CIA director travelled on the c17 Globemaster heavy lift aircraft to deliver Fort Knox as payment.
(I'm being conspiracy sarcastic btw)
Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz · 5 pts · 1d
If you didn't say you were being sarcastic, you could probably get bluanon types to run with it.
HerbGrower@slrpnk.net · 1 pts · 11h
Americans will eat from the scraps left over from the mystery meat cube of bakhmut.
atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works · 10 pts · 1d
Is there a source for them not carrying the imported beef? I realize they have their own beef supply but I haven’t found anything where they’ve officially announced this.
tostane@thelemmy.club · 9 pts · 1d
trump always seems to send the dangerous stuff to racial minority areas beware if you eat beef in one of these areas.
Duamerthrax@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1d
Or Trump Steaks to Sharper Image. Yeah, the mall electronics store.
breadsmasher@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 1d
do americans even realise how garbage their meat is?
zarkanian@sh.itjust.works · 14 pts · 1d
No, they don't. Part of it is the media doesn't report on it, but part of it is it's illegal to take photos or get video from inside of slaughterhouses. Also, a lot of people don't want to know, because it would be inconvenient. They like the taste of meat, and they don't want to quit eating it.
Jarix@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 1d
The Best Democracy Money Can Buy
adarza@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 1d
the mass produced, factory butchered and packaged shit that might even be sent overseas for processing and come back.. yea, that shit can be pretty bad.. especially the 'tubes' of unknown origins.
the stuff raised out on the farm (sis' parents used to raise their own, 2 head at a time), or the neighbor's farm (where we all get it from now)? not the same product. not.even.close.
Almacca@aussie.zone · 6 pts · 1d
How much of that goes to Costco, though?
chaogomu@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 1d
Small farms sell to livestock auctions.
Those tend to have buyers from large meat processing plants.
That meat is then sold as premium grade, usually steak and roast cuts.
The rest is then used for ground meat, or pet feed.
Unless it's chicken. Then everyone is in the same leaky boat. Seriously, chicken is nasty. Every single country in the world has switched to fast growing chicks, that need to be slaughtered long before adulthood because they get too big to survive on their own.
Then they're too young to really develop flavor, so the processed meat has to be plumped further with injections of salted chicken broth.
Almacca@aussie.zone · 1 pts · 18h
Well that's depressing.
zarkanian@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 1d
The farm is only part of it. Whether they were raised on a factory farm or your neighbor's farm, they all go to the same slaughterhouse. Unless you know farmers who do their own slaughtering, which I highly doubt.
Einskjaldi@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1d
That isn't necessarily better, you have higher rates of accidental additions if you don't operate the saws perfectly at diy small scale.
KulunkelBoom@lemmus.org · -8 pts · 1d
do you realize how dumb you sound?
breadsmasher@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 1d
America has the greatest, highest quality meat available.
is it dumber than that statement?
Soggy@lemmy.world · -9 pts · 1d
So garbage that international demand makes us the 4th biggest exporter of beef. Get over yourself.
breadsmasher@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 1d
lmao. doesnt make your meat good.
PlaidBaron@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 1d
4th place is 3rd loser.
bus_factor@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1d
Second biggest beef producer (just a hair behind Brazil), but only fourth biggest exporter. Both of which are natural consequences of just being a large landmass.
Most US produced beef is banned in countries with actual food standards due to the use of artificial growth hormones.
Soggy@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 23h
If you cared to investigate the details of those growth hormones instead of parroting EU-centric fear campaigns you would see that there's no actual evidence that the minuscule remnants of hormones, nanograms per portion, are harmful. There were some unfounded claims in the 70s and 80s that made headlines and whipped the public into a panic which gave European governments a decent foundation to enact win-win protectionist trade policies. (The EU tends toward "prove it's safe" rather than "prove it's not", which is fine but becomes annoying when people then talk shit about stuff like the US banning the import of unpasteurized young cheese for legitimate health reasons.)
Until very recently the US had some of the best food safety records in the world, though admittedly a less impressive history of animal wellness and humane treatment.
theblurstoftimes@leminal.space · 4 pts · 1d
Man the fucking Simpsons again! Soon we’re gonna see Trump brand MALK at all schools.
kieron115@startrek.website · 2 pts · 23h
Your bones are disintegrating because you didn't drink enough MALK.
theblurstoftimes@leminal.space · 2 pts · 22h
I don’t get it. Everyone likes rats but no one wants to drink their milk?
hexdream@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 1d
But trump really wants you to touch his meat... especially on the island.
Thebeardedsinglemalt@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 1d
And only if you're not old enough to drive yet.
hexdream@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1d
He will help them practice for the stick shift
Tiral@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 2h
I've never heard of it. I wouldn't buy it regardless.
then_three_more@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1d
Is Costco somewhere anyone can shop at in the USA? In the UK they only allow people who work in select professions.
greedytacothief@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 14 pts · 1d
You have to pay for a membership in the US
mazelado@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 1d
There’s no restriction based on professions. You just have to pay the annual membership fee, which is about $60.
5too@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1d
Not sure if this is what they were talking about, but there are some Costcos that only sell to businesses. Have a bit of an uproar where I live because one downtown is switching to that, and there's not many other grocery options in the area.
LilB0kChoy@reddthat.com · 5 pts · 1d
The regular Costco members can still shop at a business center but the merchandise is not targeted towards them.
The business centers sell things like cases of cups, plates, disposable silverware, legs, shoulders and other large cuts of meat, cases of common restaurant ingredients, salt and pepper shakers in bulk for tables etc.
We go to the business center by us every so often because they carry real American cheese in bulk, not the Kraft garbage the regular Costco has.
ayyy@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 1d
It used to be like that in the US a few decades ago, and then they transitioned into a “professional store hours” and “public store hours” situation. Now they’ve scrapped the restrictions entirely for the normal warehouses and in highly populated areas they built more warehouses called “Costco Business” warehouses.
ikidd@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 1d
In Canada, you used to have to have a public service ID or select professional societies. They got rid of that a couple decades ago. Now you pay the free for a regular or executive membership and you're good.
LodeMike@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 1d
Huh? What's this about specific professions?
then_three_more@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 1d
https://www.costco.co.uk/membership-goldstar-questions
OR Qualified as:
OR Pre Approved Membership
You are a current or retired employee of an approved company that has been preapproved and an agreement has been arranged between your company and Costco Wholesale UK Limited. Membership list of Pre Approved Businesses
LodeMike@lemmy.today · 4 pts · 1d
https://www.costco.co.uk/membership-common-questions
There's more than that kind of membership
then_three_more@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 21h
As I understand from what I've read on there is to actually physically shop in their shops (rather than only only) it's that or be a business. Unless I'm completely mis reading it.
jack_of_sandwich@lemmy.sdf.org · 2 pts · 2h
If only I could shop at Costco without having to go near Costco....
KulunkelBoom@lemmus.org · 2 pts · 1d
exactly this.
technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 10h
Late stage carnism.
humanspiral@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 5h
Fun US-Canada trade Trump demand. Canada should not be allowed to inspect US milk to detect if it is cancer milk instead of organic. I doubt Americans will be allowed to know if they are buying US prime or mystery meat pretending to be prime either.
NathanRanch@lemmy.zip · 0 pts · 1d
We can trust this Corp this time guys I swear. The bar is serving food that isn't poisonous guys I swear.
Sanguine@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 13 pts · 1d
Not taking away from that sentiment for 99% of other companies, but this is a common Costco W.
Still big corpo, still profit motivated obviously, but as far as mega corps go this is one of the good ones.
Wakmrow@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 1d
Taylor farms salads are sold in Costco
CardboardDecoy@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 1d
People still have to survive. We still have to shop. Sorry I can't grow a food forest in my 800 sq. Ft. Apartment and live off composting my own shit to grow heirloom tomatos.
You got somewhere I can find food for cheap that at least gives the thinnest veneer of not trying to be as awful as possible? Do you? No, you're a shitstain hatemongrel who offers nothing but kicking people who don't have the priveledge of options in a capitalist hellscape.
Assuming you aren't one of those hate bots mentioned in a previous post then please quickly and permanently go fuck yourself.
NathanRanch@lemmy.zip · -1 pts · 1d
Neat!
DrStanleyGoodspeed@lemmy.zip · 0 pts · 1d
An example of how capitalism can work
Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 1d
How is this proof of capitalism?
DrStanleyGoodspeed@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 23h
It’s a publicly traded company doing what’s decent because it makes people more likely to give them their business
kibblebits@quokk.au · -2 pts · 1d
Oh yeah Costco all the wall.
SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world · -3 pts · 1d
See this is proof that capitalism is the best economic system.
Unregulated capitalism has never been tried but success stories like this is evidence that the concept works.
whereitsat@lemmy.zip · -8 pts · 11h
lol @ pushing ethical consumerism in 2026. let me just shop at the place that isn't actively trying to kill everyone!!!!!
that'll make a real difference!!!
dvoraqs@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 7h
What is the alternative ethical option?
jack_of_sandwich@lemmy.sdf.org · 1 pts · 2h
Starve, I guess
skidicarus@sh.itjust.works · -2 pts · 11h
Yeah not sure how Costco is supposed to be a good choice.
samus12345@sh.itjust.works · 9 pts · 6h
It's a less bad choice. That's the best option most people will have.
skidicarus@sh.itjust.works · -1 pts · 6h
I don't even think that's true in most cases.
samus12345@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 5h
Most people don't live near a place that sells ethically sourced food.
skidicarus@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 5h
If one lives near a Costco, then there are almost certainly more ethical options in the same area.
samus12345@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 5h
What are some examples? I'd genuinely like to know.
skidicarus@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 5h
Entirely depends on the local area. I have two Costcos in my area. I also have several farmers' markets, a co-op, and several grocers that sell fair trade and local products.
xSikes@feddit.online · -18 pts · 1d
Even though Costco does a lot of good, they still have just the same amount of bad too. Just because they’re the healthier option doesn’t mean they’re healthy.
Nerdulous@lemmy.zip · 19 pts · 1d
This is such a lukewarm thought. They're a grocery store. Of course they sell unhealthy options. They're being called out as noteworthy here because they go above and beyond other grocery stores and checking to make sure that the food is actually healthy and not going to give you diseases. Take your "both sides" style argument somewhere else.
xSikes@feddit.online · -4 pts · 1d
I wouldn’t say so, it’s more open to a boarder view headed on the post and comments. I’m down to have a specific topic conversation if you like. And my comment may be playing “both sides” but they’re not progressive enough for my taste.
anarchy79@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 1d
That's why I voted Trump. Kamala did a lot of good, but in the end everything is the same so I just voted Trump because nothing matters.
I feel the need to stress that this is a fictitious event.
xSikes@feddit.online · 0 pts · 1d
I wasn’t saying anything like that but I also don’t agree with that statement. Thank you for voting though.