What is more infuriating is that they frequently don't show the app / applet you are actually looking for until after they load a web result - which results in your muscle memory and just hitting enter working against you.
I keep a small Win11 partition on my 2022 gaming laptop in case I need to take a cert exam or use a gov website, and I booted it for updating for the first time in 6 months. It took over 6 hours and 6 reboots to update! At one point, it was going bu-ding every minute from random notifications so I had to mute it.
Meanwhile, my 2012 Thinkpad T420 needed a full Fedora version upgrade, and that finished in 15 minutes.
Ha! Oh, if you think thatās dumbā¦ There are certain key sections of the IRS website that only function during business hours. Imagine if more sites worked like that. āDang, itās after 5PM, gotta do my Amazon order tomorrow.
Not knowing much about Serbian smartcards, but I had done quite a bit with smartcards in Linux before.
Have you seen this project? https://github.com/ubavic/bas-celik ... looks to be cross-platform and do what you're saying. Though you'd probably need pcscd, pcsc-tools, and possibly other similar packages, depending distro.
Ah if you want to use it on their website or in a browser you'll probably also need a mini card driver like OpenSC.
And if you're using firefox, you might have to go into settings to add a pkcs provider and tell it where opensc-pkcs11.so is.
There's lots of generic info out there on smartcards in Linux if you were so inclined to "figure it out"...but I don't blame them for not "supporting" Linux...that's kind of a minefield.
Still, that's the fun of Linux...realizing that "not supported" doesn't mean it won't work....just that they won't help you.
I have a machine in my garage that gets used for music and the random football game. Starting it up after being down even a few weeks starts the churn of updates. It's annoying.
Just in case you don't know, unless it changed last time I checked, some organizations like Comptia didn't allow computers with dual boot to be used to pass a cert exam.
Problem that powertoys are becoming bloated too. Before switching my 8gb RAM laptop to Linux, it was constantly swapping memory. I investigated and it was powertoys slowly eating everything. The two almost identical launchers, 300mb each. The eyedropper that you gonna use once a month 200mb, the help that comes out when you long press the windows key, another 80mb. Same for the screen ruler. Then the accent helper, and so on. My 8gb laptop only had 1 GB free Memory After a clean boot
AFAIK there was a memory leak in PowerToys. But itās definitely ballooned in scope since it was first released. I suppose turning off the parts you donāt need would help but it really should still be more efficient. Doesnāt help that the Microsoft Department of AI Department seems to have started sinking its teeth into it as of the last few updates.
The last time I used the power toys was on W10 but can't you choose which components you install? Surely you can disable the autostart for the ones you are not using?
Isnāt that the entire point of swap? If youāre only gonna access that memory once a month whatās wrong with it swapping to disk but becoming ready within seconds when you go to use it?
That's not true. Linux by default also moves stuff to swap way earlier. Swap is not just a fallback when you run out of RAM. That is why I think Zram is the best. My system can swap as much as it wants to.
Linux swappiness is at least easier to configure + I haven't really noticed it happen on anything with enough RAM to do the job it's doing.
My 8 GB Thinkpad will swap quite a bit running PyCharm, docker and Firefox on KDE Plasma. My 32 GB desktop has near-zero swap usage and it has even more shit running at all
I'm currently dealing with an issue where on freshly installed Mint, after some time of me being away from the machine, the entire system and apps seem to have moved to the swap, which is on an hdd ā so things slow down to a crawl and it takes like ten minutes to shake them back to life.
Edit: after some more troubleshooting, I'm not sure swap is the issue, but it's still likely.
That's cool, but I'm more concerned as to why this happens while I'm away, when there's no need for everything getting swapped while I'm at the machine.
Yes but when it's too much... The poor SSD in my 8gb laptop was constantly at 65Ā°C because of all the activity. And it seems without reason. I would hear the warning sounds from crystaldiskinfo when "idle" in another room
Is there a word for āa thoughtless action by someone else so incidentally awful that you canāt help but wonder if itās intentionalā?
I mean, I donāt think theyāre intentionally engineering it to delay EXACTLY the amount of time it takes for me to begin the process of clicking. That would take thoughtfulness, strategy, research, etcā¦ā¦ right?
KDE's Plasma Desktop has a web search plugin that I use all the time. Typing the Win (Super) key followed by wp:Sistine Chapel and then the Enter key brings me straight to the Wikipedia entry on the Sistine Chapel. imdb:Jurassic Park brings me to the IMDb page for Jurassic Park. yt: will search YouTube, and so on. There are around 200 keywords pre-programmed into it, including for searching programming language documentation. Unlike the Windows feature displayed here, it doesn't use the network unless you specify a prefix and it accesses only the service you specify by the keyword. Whoever added this feature had to do so very little work compared to the payoff. It just takes the part after the colon and inserts it into a search URL for the corresponding service and opens that URL in the browser. It's very convenient. None of this web search stuff comes up when you're just searching for apps and there are no surprises.
I like that if I type an application (the main reason I type in that window) that I don't have yet, rather than some nonsense like this it gives me a shortcut to the application IN the package manager.
Yeah, as far as i'm concerned that's about the only acceptible thing to have come up that isn't an application you already have. If I want internet results or files, I'd be using the appropriate browser for those.
Even macos spotlight knows to prioritize system apps over web searches and such. Iirc itās like if the query exists as a system app that will be the top result, if two system apps share the query the most recent result selected will win (eg typed āterā and last used terminal that will be the autocomplete and top choice but if you also have an app called like terminex or something you can down key to it), and web results are only if queries have no match in the spotlight db for files, contacts, etc (which would be in the match list after system apps. I donāt know what the hierarchy is but there is one iirc). So if you type in āphantom menaceā and have no apps, files, contacts, etc matching that itāll prompt to query google.
What you describe is far greater in functionality (and of course spotlight doesnt have plugin support, though it can be outright replaced at least (for now)) but itās absolutely insane microsoft is going this way with ad nonsense. Itās just disrespectful and greedy. Who is even left using desktop OS anymore? Itās like power users and office workers. The power users are gonna switch to linux or m series macbooks (which doesnāt rule out linux). So is this just a play to get the administrative assistants and other office drones of the world to become a captive audience they can sell?
IDK about Google desktop but everything searches my entire 40tb of files on my pc and file server instantly. I cannot recommend it enough. I use it combined with FreeCommander for file management stuff.
but in this example clearly Wikipedia and probably IMDB are not paying them right? Or is it their attempt to disguise selling out by always preferring the buyable option even when it's at 0$?
IMDB might be, they're covered in trackers and ads. MS is a donor to Wikipedia (via Microsoft Matching Gifts Program) so they're getting what they paid for.
....are you serious? I know this is Linux Memes, but have you ever used Windows 11? MS has been ruining their own products for years. 1/3 of their janky code is LLMs constantly causing problems.
Even without any nefarious motives, they just do dumb stuff like that. I have Clone Hero installed. Whenever I press Super/Windows and I start typing 'clon', the FIRST thing that comes up is 'Control Panel', Clone Hero being the second guess.
So whenever I want to quickly start the game, I type 'clon', press enter, then get annoyed by the lack of Clone Hero and an unwelcome Control Panel window.
Outside the quite small bubble of nerds that is Lemmy and software developers/admins in general a random person is more likely to want the movie than the terminal app.
Is Terminal installed by default? I feel like I had to go out and get it manually. It's a single application with a UI to PowerShell, Windows Command Prompt, WSL, and any other terminals you might have. Maybe Windows 11 has it by default? But I feel like if someone has gone out of their way to install the application, Windows should definitely not be showing a web search result over it.
I have never seen a person who uses Windows search instead of a browser to search the web, and I doubt anyone actually does. Even the people you mentioned.
As a software dev I wonder how does this even happen?
As a guy who runs the Windows environment at work and doesn't see any of that shit at all - neither at work, nor on my extended family's devices - I also wonder, how does this even happen?
My point was that the only time I ever see anything like this happen, is when people complain about it online.
I've managed around 10-20k Windows devices since Windows 10 came out. I've never seen a web search take priority over apps search. I'm honestly baffled as to where people are getting these screenshots from.
I saw it all the time. It drove me nuts. I'm not sure how you literally never see it, because my clean and fresh installs of windows always worked this way until I did a RegEdit update to kill the websearch in it.
The last few times I even had to disable it, there was no setting for it. RegEdit was the way to disable the search-in-start-menu stuff.
But regardless, I'm still talking about seeing this issue on a fresh install. That's definitely not something that happens because I fiddle with settings.
You could always disable it. Just not in the OS settings - you had to open the Search window, go to the cog menu and open settings there.
But regardless, Iām still talking about seeing this issue on a fresh install. Thatās definitely not something that happens because I fiddle with settings.
In that case either I'm the luckiest bastard on the planet (again: 10-20k users all around the world since Windows 10 dropped and nobody has ever mentioned that problem), or maybe it's a regional thing that only happens in the US, or something. But then why didn't my US users complain?
I tried to disable web search entirely and it still prioritizes it over shit on my actual computer. Its infuriating and I will be moving to Linux when I get the time to get off 10.
no, mac sucks:
infinitely less customizable, worse game support, the command key works in a very cursed way, the os is spyware, screenshot tool sucks, the "Dock" (app bar) takes 300 to 1200 mb ram and idk why, apple silicon gpu sucks, overpriced hardware, apple account, finder (the files app) is so bad that i often had to use terminal to do what i want (finder has no way to get the filepath, and no way to create a file)
only advantage of mac is its stability
and if you decide to install linux on a mac, you could have just bought a normal computer for the same price and the specs would be better, also displayport isn't supported (yet) so you're locked to a single display on most macbooks, and also it has the ARM cpu architecture so less software supports it
It sucks the same as Windows or Linux, just in different ways. We're used to the way Linux sucks, I'm used to the Windows sucks, we're both not used to the way Mac sucks, apparently.
only advantage of mac is its stability
Which is exactly why I recommend it to someone who's unreasonable angry at Windows. They'll have something new to learn, but something that is relatively stable (not as given as it used to be with MacOS 26).
Linux is weird. Linux is finicky. Linux breaks because you looked at it wrong, or because there was a full Moon while you were eating PB&J. If someone is infuriated by something they can literally turn off in settings, they'll be completely drowned in anguish if they switch to Linux.
I was working at MSFT when they rolled out Windows 8.
Basically broke all internal workflows for a month or two.
Then quickly had to re-enable the 7 UI they told even us employees did not exist in 8.
They did some kind of hackjob, called that 8.1, and fast forward a decade, Windows 11 had, last time I checked at least 4 different 'eras' of UI schemes/frameworks, if you dig far enough into all the settings menus.
I am not even joking when I say that people literally screamed at me when I used the word 'refactor' in a sentence, while on the MSFT campus.
I was honestly filled with excitement getting bazzite, so simple, so easy, promised as "it just works". Lo an behold I'm still excited and happy to use it, though after learning more about Cachy I think I'll give myself some more excitement and compare the two.
Use Everything! search for Windows. Literally one of the strongest points of NTFS is lightning fast indexing, using tools like Everything and WizTree. The only things I miss on Linux. Oh also AutoHotKey.
I just set the Everything window to appear on ALT+3 (I have found this to be a very useful shortcut because it's rarely used by anything else and is easy to reach quickly)(some function keys also work well for it), you just type, it highlights, you press enter, you're done. And so many sorting options.
Debian or Gnome seem to have some kind of semi usable search in the gui. It can find files in multiple places by name, wildcard etc but I'm not sure what it can see. Everything is great on Win.
AutoKey is an alternative to AutoHotKey, from what I understand. Haven't gotten around to it yet, but at least it uses a proper programming language instead of the abomination that is AutoHotKey's scripting lang.
But nothing beats Hammerspoon which is the analogue for MacOS. Lua programming, sizeable library of OS integrations, built-in http server. Ah, what a beauty it is.
How common it is across distros I couldn't tell you, but it's been a staple on Mint for a good long while and ought to be available everywhere. Basically wherever I'd use find I try locate first, unless it's for a file that's expected to be very new and hasn't been indexed by the daemon yet.
Adding websearch to the start bar's search was solving a problem that didn't exist. If I want to search the web, I can use a web browser to do it. I feel like it was added to try to make up for how bad the search used to be (and still is? I just never really had a habit of using it because it was so unreliable and depended on other ways to figure out where things were), so that it would give something, plus MS really wanted bing to be a thing.
I recently switched to KDE and their main search bar also includes web search. I haven't looked at the settings for it and expect there's probably a way to disable that, but I didn't feel great about seeing that there.
It's like, I get the idea of saying "this user is searching for a program they don't have, let's link to it" but then they're like "oh what if we searched for everything?" and then someone else is was like "And what if we put ads in to monetize it!" Then that last person probably got a bonus.
I honestly don't mind the fact there's search there. I do mind the fact that there are any circumstances in which it would default to the web search over a correctly-spelled (or even a correct partial-match) application on my computer. That should never happen.
Adding websearch to the start barās search was solving a problem that didnāt exist.
Maybe the average user is so ignorant and bad at computers they don't understand this. They don't know what a browser is. They don't know what a website is. They don't know what a program is. It's all just stuff.
Personally, I'd rather spend billions on education than AI slop and other patches on "people are kind of dull"
Had to use a W11 machine last week and this was one of the 1st things that annoyed the shit out of me. On W10 you start typing an app name and press enter and it opens. What the fuck are they at changing that. And don't get me started on Outlook or Windows explorer.
Fuck you Microsoft. I'm going to Linux as soon as possible
It's so weird, because Ubuntu used to be the beginner distro. I started out on it and was hooked. The level of polish and out-of-the-box readiness was really welcoming to my old mac brain.
Ubuntu would actually still be a good beginner distro imo if it wasn't for the way they implemented their custom stuff. Even the distinction between apt and snaps is enough to scare away beginners.
What version of Firefox does it install? I tried Ubuntu, but the Snaps are having real trouble with my N150 CPU in the mini PC I bought. Cannot do hardware video decoding at all, despite the CPU being more than capable of it.
Well, the Snaps are one of the things they took out. Flatpaks are enabled in the software manager by default though.
I believe everything that comes preinstalled, including Firefox and LibreOffice and such, is installed the traditional way as if you did "apt install firefox."
I installed LibreWolf and like it. It's just firefox with telemetry removed and some privacy hardening out of the box.
I love Mint. I'm a Linux noob but took the plunge this year and installed it. Its not 100% plain sailing but it is close enough and worth it for the simple unintrusive OS interface that Microsoft has obliterated.
Yeah that's my plan. My processor won't even support Windows 11, so that's not an option. (I used to think it was a TPM2.0 issue, but checked more recently and it's not. They just even more arbitrarily decided my processor is too old, while also claiming Windows 11 has the same or lower overhead than 10!) I'm also not far away from needing a hard drive, RAM, and GPU upgrade. So I figure some time reasonably soon I'll build a new PC. That one won't be getting Windows on it, unless I discover a game or something that I can't run on Linux.
I haven't met a single game yet that isn't running, but I'm not into AAA games anyway. Worst case you just resort to dual boot (don't forget, always install Windows first) or VM.
Amusingly, just a couple of minutes after posting that comment, I went to the aoe2 Reddit to check if I was missing some details about a recent patch (for details related to this Lemmy post I had just made). And one of the first posts I saw was this one complaining about that very-much-not-AAA game failing to run recently.
The games in that franchise are like 90% of my gaming tbh. They all get great scores on ProtonDB, but the use a kinda weird hybrid of your Steam account and your Microsoft/Xbox account for syncing player details, and one of my concerns is the Xbox account might not work correctly.
Worst case you just resort to dual boot (donāt forget, always install Windows first)
Yeah, dual booting was definitely the plan. I didn't know you need to install Windows first though, that's...disappointing. And frustrating. My plan was to install Linux, stick with that for as long as I can, and if I later decide I need Windows for something, install it then.
or VM
Could be a good option. Dunno how smoothly these games would run in a VM, but worth a shot, and much better than needing to dual boot, if it does work smoothly.
Is not strictly necessary to install Windows first, it just makes it easier, because Linux will setup the bootloader for you. Windows in the others hand tends to nuke everything that was installed prior, so you would at least need to repair the bootloader. To be completely safe you can just disconnect the Linux drive, while Windows is installing. Definitely a path, if you want to go for Linux only for now.
VM is a good method once it is set up, but needs more initial tinkering with the passthrough, depending on your hardware. I don't know how those Kernel level anti cheat things work. Otherwise the game shouldn't even know it's in a vm.
Btw, if you want someone that just works out of the box for games, have a look at bazzite. Steam and drivers installed right away. I run it happily for some time now.
Don't dual boot. Instead, invest in two drives and dedicate each to each os fully. Way less headache and far more control. Easier to keep windows oblivious of Linux existence so it doesn't fuck with it.
Isn't that still dual booting? Unless you have two PCs (even if you somehow rigged both PCs up in the same case with separate power buttons), you need a bootloader to choose which drive to boot off of. And unless I'm mistaken, two drives is not going to look notably different to the bootloader from two partitions on the same drive, is it?
There's a technical difference. On a single drive, GRUB (or any other modern bootloader) can handle multiple OSs that coexist on the same boot chain. Windows doesn't like this of course. On different drives it is the UEFI that chooses which drive boot sector to boot from, regardless of which bootloader it has. Here, Windows doesn't get a say, and it is less likely to break.
Historically, the first case was called dual booting but the second is not called that. If the same result is achieved, maybe the distinction doesn't matter anymore. However, in the olden days, there was only one disk allowed to have a master boot partition, the Device 0 in an IDE bus. Consumer PCs were limited to two IDE busses, with a device 0 and device 1 each, only one hard drive could have an MBR on the primary IDE. Now a days it is much easier to have multi-disk boot capabilities in hardware thanks to EFI system partitions (since mid 2000s), but it used to be necessary to fiddle with an MBR even if the OSs were on different disks.
It is an important distinction because dual booting, as a concept, almost always exists in relation with Windows. If you have two, three or more Linux OSs running on the same disk drive, it is not called dual booting, it is just booting and choosing your distro, as bootloaders like GRUB are multi-booting by default.
So, yeah, maybe it is dual-booting as well, but it is not what the original term used to mean. It is just Windows wasting space in a quarantined disk, which I still prefer.
Whoops. Just cleaning up some old tabs and realised I never responded to this. Thanks! It was some really interesting info.
dual booting, as a concept, almost always exists in relation with Windows
Hard to dispute this, except perhaps for the really niche situation of someone dual booting Linux on a Mac. Not especially useful very often, since Macs are a UNIX system. And because of that, not very common compared to Windows on a Mac, or dual booting Windows & Linux.
This is why I have a custom shell on my work PC. This is the kind of shit search interface where the local hits pop up quickly after you typed but then jump away to display irrelevant guff like this just as youāre clicking on what you wanted.
Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
Windows search sucks balls and does stupid stuff like this all the time. Even when it's not a web search it might open some file named terminal and not the program terminal. It does that to me all the time at work.
I think that adage used to work... however nowadays, with corporate greed enshittifying everything, I think it's safe to presume malice by default, at least when the actor is a company. Your neighbor probably didn't mean to do that thing that made you mad.
They no longer get the 'benefit of the doubt' after years of evidence that they will attempt to squeeze every penny out of their customers.
Oh it's totally malice, like the "reminder" to want to share personal information to MS for a customized user experience, where you your only options are "yes, I want to eat shit" or "sorry, please ask me to eat shit later"
Or how they are clamping on people's ability to create local accounts.
Huh? What does that have to do with anything? Nobody mentioned Reddit, or any websites that they "do".
A lot of people need various different specific software. Some don't need it but really want it. The comment you replied to was fairly clear: "if you have to use Windows 11". In that context:
No need for 3rd Party Software at all. Iām team Linux
I don't know. This application makes going back into a back/forth conversations, such as Reddit does. I might need to look into a GUI Client that runs Lemmy for Android instead of the browser.
No, I've never deleted an account. I made two accounts accidentally because I didn't understand how Lemmy worked with Instances, 1 I didn't use an email so when I got approved I forgot the PW I created & couldn't login back in. This is my 2nd try & because I don't know the PW for the other one, it's not deleted. Assuming you're thinking of someone else. Anyways I understand Lemmy now!
On the one (windows) machine i actively use powershell i click the pinned start menu icon.
Windows has fucked my flow before by co opting my shortcuts. So this is the most reliable way.
On linux terminal is a shortcut, app launcher is a shortcut and searching apps to launch actually works and doesnāt open my browser that operates under a different privacy contract then your os settings.
I despised windows search long before i switched i just didnāt know any better.
On my one remaining Windows machine, I installed PowerToys and use the "Run" launcher. Alt+Space opens Run. If you lead with a . you'll search programs. Alt+Space, .term, for example, should immediately show Terminal and you can slap enter to open it. You can also do stuff like = 1 + 1 or = 0b101 + 0xf for quick calculations, %% for unit conversion (%% 10MB to Mb), etc. It's not KRunner, dmenu, etc but it definitely beats the hell out of the start menu.
PowerToys "Keyboard Manager" might let you reclaim some shortcuts as well. I used it to swap Caps Lock and Escape but I'm pretty sure it can be used to create custom shortcuts. There's also some option to remap shortcuts on a program specific basis. So you can say Alt+T should send Ctrl+T but only when Firefox has focus, for example. Haven't messed with it myself but I can see the value.
Still looking forward to ditching Windows entirely but, in the meantime, MS has some decent tools that aren't included by default and don't seem to be advertised because power users aren't the target market and "they already know to look for it" I guess.
Alt+Space, wt, enter (or .term and auto complete will fill in "Terminal")
It's pretty much identical in terms of keystrokes. I just always forget "wt" is the way to launch Windows Terminal from Run, and that it works with PowerToys Run as well. My main sell was that the latter is a decent quick launcher with some useful tools built in to keep you from ever bothering with the start menu. I'm sure if I played with the Keyboard Manager a bit more I could probably go for something like Super/Win+Shift+Enter and skip Run or PowerToys Run altogether. I just haven't bothered for whatever reason.
To your edit, it isn't the same thing as cmd. It's more like konsole or kitty or gnome-terminal. It is a terminal container that can run cmd or powershell or bash for you.
It has other features that are nice, and that more useful systems have had since the 90s. If you're stuck on windows, it's to putty what ie used to be for netscape. You can use it to download putty, or use it and only be mildly irritated on someone else's system.
Terminal can have multiple tabs, multiple different processes (so you can have a powershell and a cmd running in different tabs) and better WSL support AFAIK. It's wt in the Run dialog. (I'm pretty sure typing "cmd" now just opens a cmd window in terminal too)
Yeah I don't know why people who call going on the internet without using uBlock rawdogging use windows without running some script to gut all of this trash.
Is Terminal even a Windows app or alias for cmd.exe/PowerShell? I know the joke is how bad the start "menu" is, but maybe they could've searched for a real app?
it's honestly one of the best Terminal Emulators. wish I could get it on Linux in all honesty. I'm sure someone has but I haven't really looked into it.
Windows Terminal is the terminal emulator that hosts the shell (cmd or PowerShell, or anything else really). It's the modern replacement for "conhost".
It's also a fantastic app, some of the devs are on Mastodon too.
My only gripe with it is that it's a store app, meaning the path to the executable is very convoluted. So starting it via a powertoys shortcut is a hassle and I think only works for one specific version until the path changes
But if you use Windows for any reason, I'd still recommend O&O cause it disables nearly every annoyance the OS has. MSEdgeRedirect and StartAllBack fix the remaining problems with Win11 (stops Windows from ignoring your default browser settings, and restores removed Start menu features, respectively).
I disagree. Being able to slap the windows key and type the name of the program I'm looking for is one of my favorite features of both Gnome and KDE and I wish Windows worked similarly.
It shows up as "Terminal" in the search results, so I imagine that's what it matches against, even if it is colloquially referred to as "Windows Terminal"...
On KDE, it's just one of the suggestions, I believe, that you could search this term on the web. If you trigger that suggestion, it then opens the web browser to do the search.
As such, searching "terminal" wouldn't yield a suggestion from a web result that matches, but I'm pretty sure applications are prioritized above other results either way.
That's good to hear. It continuously amazes me how often search bars in some pieces of software manage to be worse than ctrl-f in a plaintext document.
That's part of the issue: in the picture is written "Terminal", so I expect to find it if I search Terminal. I don't care what is the real name under the hood, I'm searching something for the name you have given me.
Youāre not wrong but thereās something very funny about a gaggle of Linux evangelists complaining about it not being obvious what aliases to type to open something
I understand them: I am an old Linux user, used to the command line. In there, once upon a time, a command has only on way to be called, and that way was the name under which the command was known and distributed. Aliases were a personal customization made by the user for his own amusement.
I am still under the assumption that if a program is presented to you as X, then X is the command to type to run said program. But I understand this is now not as obvious, even in the Linux world.
Oh thereās absolutely no excuse for it not to open Terminal when you type terminal. I canāt replicate it on my side but Iāve probably turned that āfeatureā off ages ago. Iām a little surprised at the downvotes, as Iām making fun of Windows. Linux used to have a reputation for its learning curve, especially knowing CLI commands. Daunting stuff for the average user. Itās better now, and beautifully enough itās Microsoftās fuckery with putting unwanted shit in their OS thatās teaching people more about the inner workings of the system theyāre using, both pushing them towards gutting the OS, and towards other OSes. In the Lemmy demographic thatās usually Linux, around me itās actually been Macs, and those are even more egregiously expensive where I live.
Another way the esotericness tables have turned: the Windows configuration UIs have similar names, do adjacent functions, and arenāt listed anywhere in one place. You have to know what setting you want and where itās found. There used to be one Control Panel, and a few advanced tools you could find in the Start menu. Microsoft wants to āmodernizeā some of these, so theyāve pulled parts of their settings piecemeal into their new Settings UI (which they call an app, I donāt like that). But you still have some settings that are still in the legacy Control Panel UI. You have a ton of settings that are still in standalone legacy settings UIs. Some of them look like Windows 10, some like Vista/7, and thereās a handful that look like Windows 95. You need to know that the display color calibration options in the Settings UI can be overridden by the vendorās control software (thatās a whole rant), and that what you actually want is a standalone settings window called Color Management. You need to know what operations can be done in Disk Management, Disk Cleanup, Optimize Drives, you need to know that they exist, and you then need to know if the command you want is actually only achievable in diskpart. I have nothing against diskpart but I canāt tell you which among Terminal, PowerShell, or Windows PowerShell (or any of the x86 variations plural of each of them) is the right place to use it. I can intuitively tell itās not Windows PowerShell ISE or Azure Cloud Shell though. Yay for computer literacy. I type cmd into the Start menu and it works from there, so Iām content with that. I canāt say Raspberry Pi OS has this many configuration locations but once you know the two or three places to look youāre done.
I know that I will have to move to Linux eventually. Iāve only complained about things in Windows that arenāt designed to abuse the users directly, which is a drop in the bucket, ethically at least, when you look at the responsibilities of the worldās most (or second most) influential company regarding personal computing. But I look at all this and feel like itās accelerating the scary trend of younger people getting worse with computers. I was able to follow instructions correctly in a novel computer environment to set up a mini homelab with a bunch of Linux servers talking to each other. People my own age and slightly younger at work seem to know fuck all about the computers we use and that terrifies me. We were supposed to get better over time, not worse! Thereās a new, younger IT guy, heās not much younger than me, and half of what Iām procedurally required to ask his help on is something he doesnāt understand at all.
Home server mountain hermit life is no longer over the horizon for me, thatās all I can say really.
All you are saying resonates too much with me.. thankfully I have to deal with Windows only at work (and in a really painful way), I've managed to switch my home to Linux or BSD, even my old gaming rig.
BTW I think the downvotes where because in your previous comment was not clear on which OS you were throwing shade š
One of the hard problems I still have today in Linux is if I'm having trouble with software and need to know what it is actually called, sometimes that is difficult. Like how am I supposed to know the installer is called calamares or the text editor is called leafpad when the OS calls them "installer" and "text editor"
Exactly, that is IMHO a not-so-sane default that some application launcher adopts. Thankfully you can switch to a more "normal" behavior, it's a flag somewhere in the configuration menus for the application launcher, at least in KDE and in XFCE
This is how I do it. When I forget that I have it pinned on the taskbar or don't want to use the mouse. I don't need it enough on windows to remember the keyboard shortcut.
331 Comments
nul9o9@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 151 pts · 259d
Typing in powershell? How a about a bing search of Windows Power Settings? Not even the settings menu, just the fucking web search.
TheBat@lemmy.world · 54 pts · 259d
unique_hemp@discuss.tchncs.de · 141 pts · 259d
Sure thing, bud š
It even recognized the local app that matches, how on earth is this a better match
RedGreenBlue@lemmy.zip · 71 pts · 259d
It's all relative. Best match for their user analytics. So they get good numbers to show user engagement in their board meetings.
Accidental clicks are engineered to juice those numbers too.
massacre@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 240d
Best Match... for Microsoft's pockets.
MotoAsh@piefed.social · 23 pts · 259d
One pays MS per click.
thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 257d
The sort order is Microsoft profits
yggstyle@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 253d
What is more infuriating is that they frequently don't show the app / applet you are actually looking for until after they load a web result - which results in your muscle memory and just hitting enter working against you.
smeg@infosec.pub · 107 pts · 259d
I keep a small Win11 partition on my 2022 gaming laptop in case I need to take a cert exam or use a gov website, and I booted it for updating for the first time in 6 months. It took over 6 hours and 6 reboots to update! At one point, it was going bu-ding every minute from random notifications so I had to mute it.
Meanwhile, my 2012 Thinkpad T420 needed a full Fedora version upgrade, and that finished in 15 minutes.
No wonder MS is losing users
klangcola@reddthat.com · 36 pts · 258d
... You need Windows to use government websites? What kind of dystopian nightmare is this
Quill7513@slrpnk.net · 27 pts · 258d
wait till you find out companies that operated in South Korea had to support Internet Explorer until 2020
Confused_Emus@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 14 pts · 258d
Ha! Oh, if you think thatās dumbā¦ There are certain key sections of the IRS website that only function during business hours. Imagine if more sites worked like that. āDang, itās after 5PM, gotta do my Amazon order tomorrow.
Greddan@feddit.org · 2 pts · 257d
thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 257d
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de_lancre@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 258d
JasonDJ@lemmy.zip · 8 pts · 258d
Not knowing much about Serbian smartcards, but I had done quite a bit with smartcards in Linux before.
Have you seen this project? https://github.com/ubavic/bas-celik ... looks to be cross-platform and do what you're saying. Though you'd probably need pcscd, pcsc-tools, and possibly other similar packages, depending distro.
de_lancre@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 258d
JasonDJ@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 257d
Ah if you want to use it on their website or in a browser you'll probably also need a mini card driver like OpenSC.
And if you're using firefox, you might have to go into settings to add a pkcs provider and tell it where
opensc-pkcs11.sois.There's lots of generic info out there on smartcards in Linux if you were so inclined to "figure it out"...but I don't blame them for not "supporting" Linux...that's kind of a minefield.
Still, that's the fun of Linux...realizing that "not supported" doesn't mean it won't work....just that they won't help you.
thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 257d
does wine or waydroid work for the serbia one?
rozodru@pie.andmc.ca · 8 pts · 258d
yeah some government sites, regardless of what browser you're using, think that you're some "1337 Haxors" for using Linux Mint.
I use Qutebrowser on NixOS and sometimes it's...yeah they don't like that.
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 10 pts · 258d
Can't you trick it using a user agent switching? Been a long time since I've fucked with one so I forget it you can change OS on there.
hexagonwin@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 4 pts · 257d
This is still the case for many South Korean shits, tho these days you can also use a (Googled) Android or iOS device with some shitty app.
Juvyn00b@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 258d
I have a machine in my garage that gets used for music and the random football game. Starting it up after being down even a few weeks starts the churn of updates. It's annoying.
pedz@lemmy.ca · 6 pts · 258d
Just in case you don't know, unless it changed last time I checked, some organizations like Comptia didn't allow computers with dual boot to be used to pass a cert exam.
SkyezOpen@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 258d
I assure you my (virtual) machine only has windows on it.
io@piefed.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 258d
tbf if you didn't update fedora for 6 months you may aswell downlaod a new iso and they also do the windows reboot screens for no reason
PissingIntoTheWind@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 258d
Thinkpad is the tank of laptops.
Undaunted@feddit.org · 81 pts · 259d
On first glace I thought I'd be looking at the UI of a streaming service. This is so awful
SaucySnake@lemmy.world · 52 pts · 259d
Powertoys and that debloating scripts does wonders to make w11 usable.
Wispy2891@lemmy.world · 55 pts · 259d
Problem that powertoys are becoming bloated too. Before switching my 8gb RAM laptop to Linux, it was constantly swapping memory. I investigated and it was powertoys slowly eating everything. The two almost identical launchers, 300mb each. The eyedropper that you gonna use once a month 200mb, the help that comes out when you long press the windows key, another 80mb. Same for the screen ruler. Then the accent helper, and so on. My 8gb laptop only had 1 GB free Memory After a clean boot
ggtdbz@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 20 pts · 259d
AFAIK there was a memory leak in PowerToys. But itās definitely ballooned in scope since it was first released. I suppose turning off the parts you donāt need would help but it really should still be more efficient. Doesnāt help that the Microsoft Department of AI Department seems to have started sinking its teeth into it as of the last few updates.
ackthxbye@feddit.org · 12 pts · 259d
The last time I used the power toys was on W10 but can't you choose which components you install? Surely you can disable the autostart for the ones you are not using?
ayyy@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 259d
Isnāt that the entire point of swap? If youāre only gonna access that memory once a month whatās wrong with it swapping to disk but becoming ready within seconds when you go to use it?
aesthelete@lemmy.world · 24 pts · 259d
Dude, Windows swaps like it's its job.
The job of swap is to be used after the RAM is full or is about to be full. It's not to be used instead of the RAM.
I bet SSDs were a huge freaking performance boost for Windows generally speaking because of the way it swaps.
SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org · 10 pts · 259d
That's not true. Linux by default also moves stuff to swap way earlier. Swap is not just a fallback when you run out of RAM. That is why I think Zram is the best. My system can swap as much as it wants to.
boonhet@sopuli.xyz · 9 pts · 259d
Linux swappiness is at least easier to configure + I haven't really noticed it happen on anything with enough RAM to do the job it's doing.
My 8 GB Thinkpad will swap quite a bit running PyCharm, docker and Firefox on KDE Plasma. My 32 GB desktop has near-zero swap usage and it has even more shit running at all
SlurpingPus@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 258d
I'm currently dealing with an issue where on freshly installed Mint, after some time of me being away from the machine, the entire system and apps seem to have moved to the swap, which is on an hdd ā so things slow down to a crawl and it takes like ten minutes to shake them back to life.
Edit: after some more troubleshooting, I'm not sure swap is the issue, but it's still likely.
aesthelete@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 258d
My Linux systems are all pretty RAM rich and almost never even touch swap.
SlurpingPus@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 258d
That's cool, but I'm more concerned as to why this happens while I'm away, when there's no need for everything getting swapped while I'm at the machine.
Juvyn00b@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 258d
Cries in ready boost
Wispy2891@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 259d
Yes but when it's too much... The poor SSD in my 8gb laptop was constantly at 65Ā°C because of all the activity. And it seems without reason. I would hear the warning sounds from crystaldiskinfo when "idle" in another room
aesthelete@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 259d
Lol, I remember power toys from freaking tucows.com (it used to be a software repository of sorts) in the nineties.
Windows and power toys, two relics from the ICQ age.
zurohki@aussie.zone · 14 pts · 259d
There's a blast from the past. Uh oh!
Asidonhopo@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 259d
Man, I think I still had an active Fark account more recently than I visited tucows but I remember it.
UltraMagnus0001@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 258d
Winutil automated scripts in powershell is awesome.
rook@lemmy.zip · 45 pts · 258d
or when you speed type something and it just opens edge and searches bing for the app you tried to open
NutinButNet@hilariouschaos.com · 45 pts · 259d
And I bet you it pulled the right Terminal as you typed ātermā but as you finish it, it pulls this bullshit.
JonHammCock@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 259d
Is there a word for āa thoughtless action by someone else so incidentally awful that you canāt help but wonder if itās intentionalā?
I mean, I donāt think theyāre intentionally engineering it to delay EXACTLY the amount of time it takes for me to begin the process of clicking. That would take thoughtfulness, strategy, research, etcā¦ā¦ right?
ā¦right?
elbiter@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 258d
The Germans have a word for that, I think they call it Microsoft...
raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 259d
This happens on (mobile) websites all the time. It is infuriating.
eah@programming.dev · 38 pts · 258d
KDE's Plasma Desktop has a web search plugin that I use all the time. Typing the Win (Super) key followed by
wp:Sistine Chapeland then the Enter key brings me straight to the Wikipedia entry on the Sistine Chapel.imdb:Jurassic Parkbrings me to the IMDb page for Jurassic Park.yt:will search YouTube, and so on. There are around 200 keywords pre-programmed into it, including for searching programming language documentation. Unlike the Windows feature displayed here, it doesn't use the network unless you specify a prefix and it accesses only the service you specify by the keyword. Whoever added this feature had to do so very little work compared to the payoff. It just takes the part after the colon and inserts it into a search URL for the corresponding service and opens that URL in the browser. It's very convenient. None of this web search stuff comes up when you're just searching for apps and there are no surprises.cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca · 12 pts · 258d
Yes but this doesn't generate ad revenue!
/S
Asfalttikyntaja@sopuli.xyz · 8 pts · 258d
Doesnāt anyone think about shareholders!?!!1!
Jhex@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 258d
KRunner is awesome
Bongles@lemmy.zip · 8 pts · 258d
I like that if I type an application (the main reason I type in that window) that I don't have yet, rather than some nonsense like this it gives me a shortcut to the application IN the package manager.
lightnsfw@reddthat.com · 3 pts · 258d
Yeah, as far as i'm concerned that's about the only acceptible thing to have come up that isn't an application you already have. If I want internet results or files, I'd be using the appropriate browser for those.
ragebutt@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 8 pts · 258d
Even macos spotlight knows to prioritize system apps over web searches and such. Iirc itās like if the query exists as a system app that will be the top result, if two system apps share the query the most recent result selected will win (eg typed āterā and last used terminal that will be the autocomplete and top choice but if you also have an app called like terminex or something you can down key to it), and web results are only if queries have no match in the spotlight db for files, contacts, etc (which would be in the match list after system apps. I donāt know what the hierarchy is but there is one iirc). So if you type in āphantom menaceā and have no apps, files, contacts, etc matching that itāll prompt to query google.
What you describe is far greater in functionality (and of course spotlight doesnt have plugin support, though it can be outright replaced at least (for now)) but itās absolutely insane microsoft is going this way with ad nonsense. Itās just disrespectful and greedy. Who is even left using desktop OS anymore? Itās like power users and office workers. The power users are gonna switch to linux or m series macbooks (which doesnāt rule out linux). So is this just a play to get the administrative assistants and other office drones of the world to become a captive audience they can sell?
aeternum@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 257d
brachiosaurus@mander.xyz · 36 pts · 258d
so much "user friendly"
Wispy2891@lemmy.world · 35 pts · 258d
at least you get something, on my work computer, i get an empty window when i search
blinfabian@feddit.nl · 21 pts · 258d
i have a couple of QR codes with "qr" in the file name... guess im not allowed to use 'em anymore
mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca · 11 pts · 258d
if you're searching for files on windows, Everything is the tool you need
Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 258d
Is it as good as Google desktop was?
lightnsfw@reddthat.com · 5 pts · 258d
IDK about Google desktop but everything searches my entire 40tb of files on my pc and file server instantly. I cannot recommend it enough. I use it combined with FreeCommander for file management stuff.
mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 258d
I have never heard about Google desktop before
Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 257d
It's an older code but it checks out
drmoose@lemmy.world · 30 pts · 258d
As a software dev I wonder how does this even happen?
It's incredible how incompetent Microsoft is.
GreenShimada@lemmy.world · 29 pts · 258d
The bigger weight is anything that MS can sell for ad revenue.
87Six@lemmy.zip · 12 pts · 258d
They just use the profit amount as the weight and sort descending
irmoz@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 258d
I genuinely think you might be right.
drmoose@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 258d
but in this example clearly Wikipedia and probably IMDB are not paying them right? Or is it their attempt to disguise selling out by always preferring the buyable option even when it's at 0$?
GreenShimada@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 258d
IMDB might be, they're covered in trackers and ads. MS is a donor to Wikipedia (via Microsoft Matching Gifts Program) so they're getting what they paid for.
drmoose@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 257d
but IMDB is owned by direct Microsoft competitor - Amazon.
GreenShimada@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 257d
They're not really competitors across both enterprises. If they were then you'd need some conspiracy theory-level mental gymnastics for things like:
https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/azure/defender-for-cloud/quickstart-onboard-aws?tabs=Defender-for-Containers
https://aws.amazon.com/windows/products/
https://about.ads.microsoft.com/en/blog/post/october-2025/unlocking-more-opportunities-for-partners-and-customers-through-collaboration-with-amazon
And finally
https://advertising.amazon.com/library/news/microsoft-amazon-dsp-partnership
This isn't Coke vs. Pepsi for computer boops. This is about ad revenue! They can partner up to cut Google out of the mix!
drmoose@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 257d
So they ruin their own product for what? For traffic to their billionaire buddy?
GreenShimada@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 257d
....are you serious? I know this is Linux Memes, but have you ever used Windows 11? MS has been ruining their own products for years. 1/3 of their janky code is LLMs constantly causing problems.
Dicska@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 258d
Even without any nefarious motives, they just do dumb stuff like that. I have Clone Hero installed. Whenever I press Super/Windows and I start typing 'clon', the FIRST thing that comes up is 'Control Panel', Clone Hero being the second guess.
So whenever I want to quickly start the game, I type 'clon', press enter, then get annoyed by the lack of Clone Hero and an unwelcome Control Panel window.
trxxruraxvr@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 258d
Outside the quite small bubble of nerds that is Lemmy and software developers/admins in general a random person is more likely to want the movie than the terminal app.
Greddan@feddit.org · 5 pts · 257d
trxxruraxvr@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 257d
True. Most people nowadays would panic if they accidentally opened a terminal. It's a scary thing that hackers use on tv.
drmoose@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 257d
Highly doubt that
Zagorath@aussie.zone · 2 pts · 258d
Is Terminal installed by default? I feel like I had to go out and get it manually. It's a single application with a UI to PowerShell, Windows Command Prompt, WSL, and any other terminals you might have. Maybe Windows 11 has it by default? But I feel like if someone has gone out of their way to install the application, Windows should definitely not be showing a web search result over it.
trxxruraxvr@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 257d
No clue tbh, I've been mainly using Linux for about 17 years now
QuestionMark@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 257d
I have never seen a person who uses Windows search instead of a browser to search the web, and I doubt anyone actually does. Even the people you mentioned.
Alaknar@sopuli.xyz · 2 pts · 258d
As a guy who runs the Windows environment at work and doesn't see any of that shit at all - neither at work, nor on my extended family's devices - I also wonder, how does this even happen?
Petter1@discuss.tchncs.de · 3 pts · 258d
The Person deciding only uses web services, so why should those pesky systems apps be showed first?
Alaknar@sopuli.xyz · 3 pts · 258d
My point was that the only time I ever see anything like this happen, is when people complain about it online.
I've managed around 10-20k Windows devices since Windows 10 came out. I've never seen a web search take priority over apps search. I'm honestly baffled as to where people are getting these screenshots from.
eronth@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 257d
I saw it all the time. It drove me nuts. I'm not sure how you literally never see it, because my clean and fresh installs of windows always worked this way until I did a RegEdit update to kill the websearch in it.
Alaknar@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 257d
Maybe you have issues with your OS because you keep doing things the wrong way?
Why are you disabling this in the Registry instead of turning it off through settings?
eronth@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 257d
The last few times I even had to disable it, there was no setting for it. RegEdit was the way to disable the search-in-start-menu stuff.
But regardless, I'm still talking about seeing this issue on a fresh install. That's definitely not something that happens because I fiddle with settings.
Alaknar@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 257d
You could always disable it. Just not in the OS settings - you had to open the Search window, go to the cog menu and open settings there.
In that case either I'm the luckiest bastard on the planet (again: 10-20k users all around the world since Windows 10 dropped and nobody has ever mentioned that problem), or maybe it's a regional thing that only happens in the US, or something. But then why didn't my US users complain?
Petter1@discuss.tchncs.de · 3 pts · 258d
Haha, sorry, just realised that I read the comment completely wrong somehow
But to your comment, i have experienced that windows is trying to sort personalised, so order changes based on what you frequently use
I recognised that because i need to help my coworkers often and while the amount of letters needed to show me the app I need varies a lot
Alaknar@sopuli.xyz · 3 pts · 258d
Ahh, maybe that's why! Interesting! Also interesting how people end up in that situation and then complain about it online...
Petter1@discuss.tchncs.de · 1 pts · 258d
We all know how reliable AI is š (personalised sorting is AI as well)
Alaknar@sopuli.xyz · 2 pts · 257d
Personalised sorting is very much not AI. Unless you're suggesting we've had AI since the early 90s?
winkerjadams@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 258d
I tried to disable web search entirely and it still prioritizes it over shit on my actual computer. Its infuriating and I will be moving to Linux when I get the time to get off 10.
Alaknar@sopuli.xyz · 2 pts · 258d
Turn it off in settings. Open Search, click the three dots menu, "Search settings" and turn off "Let search apps show results".
If you did and they still show up, your OS is busted and you should reinstall. Pro tip: don't use any "debloaters", they cause all kinds of headaches.
EDIT: if this is infuriating to the point you want to switch, skip Linux and go to Mac. Source: Linux user for over a year.
thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 257d
no, mac sucks:
infinitely less customizable, worse game support, the command key works in a very cursed way, the os is spyware, screenshot tool sucks, the "Dock" (app bar) takes 300 to 1200 mb ram and idk why, apple silicon gpu sucks, overpriced hardware, apple account, finder (the files app) is so bad that i often had to use terminal to do what i want (finder has no way to get the filepath, and no way to create a file)
only advantage of mac is its stability
and if you decide to install linux on a mac, you could have just bought a normal computer for the same price and the specs would be better, also displayport isn't supported (yet) so you're locked to a single display on most macbooks, and also it has the ARM cpu architecture so less software supports it
Alaknar@sopuli.xyz · 2 pts · 257d
It sucks the same as Windows or Linux, just in different ways. We're used to the way Linux sucks, I'm used to the Windows sucks, we're both not used to the way Mac sucks, apparently.
Which is exactly why I recommend it to someone who's unreasonable angry at Windows. They'll have something new to learn, but something that is relatively stable (not as given as it used to be with MacOS 26).
Linux is weird. Linux is finicky. Linux breaks because you looked at it wrong, or because there was a full Moon while you were eating PB&J. If someone is infuriated by something they can literally turn off in settings, they'll be completely drowned in anguish if they switch to Linux.
RaccoonBall@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 257d
it happens by installing windows 11 home or probwithout running a decrapification script or applying gpos to disable it
Alaknar@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 257d
None of the Win11 Home, nor Pro instances I've seen (and I've seen a lot) had that issue.
I did notice, however, that people complaining about were going very quiet very fast when asked if they used a "debloater" or some such...
jacksilver@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 258d
Theyve been rolling out intellisense for the terminal in Vscode, it's completely breaking tab complete for me.
thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 257d
does VSCodium (libre demicrosofted vscode fork) also have this? if not you could switch
or use a different editor (i use neovim btw)
Wispy2891@lemmy.world · 25 pts · 259d
2025? I don't remember the search in the start menu working correctly since windows 8
sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 18 pts · 258d
That was when they broke it.
I was working at MSFT when they rolled out Windows 8.
Basically broke all internal workflows for a month or two.
Then quickly had to re-enable the 7 UI they told even us employees did not exist in 8.
They did some kind of hackjob, called that 8.1, and fast forward a decade, Windows 11 had, last time I checked at least 4 different 'eras' of UI schemes/frameworks, if you dig far enough into all the settings menus.
I am not even joking when I say that people literally screamed at me when I used the word 'refactor' in a sentence, while on the MSFT campus.
veni_vedi_veni@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 258d
Windows 7 was the last OS I was excited to get.
Im so glad that there a tangible exodus of non techie people moving away from whatever the fuckery MS is doing nowadays.
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 5 pts · 258d
Come to Linux and find that excitement again
Zoot@reddthat.com · 1 pts · 257d
I was honestly filled with excitement getting bazzite, so simple, so easy, promised as "it just works". Lo an behold I'm still excited and happy to use it, though after learning more about Cachy I think I'll give myself some more excitement and compare the two.
_Nico198X_@europe.pub · 25 pts · 258d
ahem Linux.
Thank you.
tomiant@piefed.social · 24 pts · 258d
Use Everything! search for Windows. Literally one of the strongest points of NTFS is lightning fast indexing, using tools like Everything and WizTree. The only things I miss on Linux. Oh also AutoHotKey.
I just set the Everything window to appear on ALT+3 (I have found this to be a very useful shortcut because it's rarely used by anything else and is easy to reach quickly)(some function keys also work well for it), you just type, it highlights, you press enter, you're done. And so many sorting options.
thedeadwalking4242@lemmy.world · 36 pts · 258d
Windows: has lightning fast native indexing with ntfs Also windows: implements worst out of the box GUI search tool possible
ryper@lemmy.ca · 26 pts · 258d
Windows: searches bing before ntfs
mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca · 5 pts · 258d
Everything is what I use for files
Windows search is what I use for applications
BagOfHeavyStones@piefed.social · 4 pts · 258d
Debian or Gnome seem to have some kind of semi usable search in the gui. It can find files in multiple places by name, wildcard etc but I'm not sure what it can see. Everything is great on Win.
SlurpingPus@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 258d
AutoKey is an alternative to AutoHotKey, from what I understand. Haven't gotten around to it yet, but at least it uses a proper programming language instead of the abomination that is AutoHotKey's scripting lang.
But nothing beats Hammerspoon which is the analogue for MacOS. Lua programming, sizeable library of OS integrations, built-in http server. Ah, what a beauty it is.
palordrolap@fedia.io · 2 pts · 258d
man locateHow common it is across distros I couldn't tell you, but it's been a staple on Mint for a good long while and ought to be available everywhere. Basically wherever I'd use
findI trylocatefirst, unless it's for a file that's expected to be very new and hasn't been indexed by the daemon yet.eronth@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 24 pts · 257d
I always dug into RegEdit to disable this crap. And somehow, each time, it was a different series of steps.
driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br · 23 pts · 258d
Open start menu:
Windows: TODAY IS THE INTERNATIONAL DAY OF TOAST BREAD!! want to know more?
Agent641@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 258d
Kinda yeah
FE80@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 258d
https://youtu.be/LRq_SAuQDec
WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 258d
https://www.smeg.com/ca-en/toasters
Buddahriffic@lemmy.world · 22 pts · 258d
Adding websearch to the start bar's search was solving a problem that didn't exist. If I want to search the web, I can use a web browser to do it. I feel like it was added to try to make up for how bad the search used to be (and still is? I just never really had a habit of using it because it was so unreliable and depended on other ways to figure out where things were), so that it would give something, plus MS really wanted bing to be a thing.
I recently switched to KDE and their main search bar also includes web search. I haven't looked at the settings for it and expect there's probably a way to disable that, but I didn't feel great about seeing that there.
JackbyDev@programming.dev · 9 pts · 258d
It's like, I get the idea of saying "this user is searching for a program they don't have, let's link to it" but then they're like "oh what if we searched for everything?" and then someone else is was like "And what if we put ads in to monetize it!" Then that last person probably got a bonus.
Zagorath@aussie.zone · 5 pts · 258d
I honestly don't mind the fact there's search there. I do mind the fact that there are any circumstances in which it would default to the web search over a correctly-spelled (or even a correct partial-match) application on my computer. That should never happen.
jjjalljs@ttrpg.network · 4 pts · 258d
Maybe the average user is so ignorant and bad at computers they don't understand this. They don't know what a browser is. They don't know what a website is. They don't know what a program is. It's all just stuff.
Personally, I'd rather spend billions on education than AI slop and other patches on "people are kind of dull"
kSPvhmTOlwvMd7Y7E@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 257d
Its pumping up those Edge numbers!
whoisearth@lemmy.ca · 22 pts · 258d
Am I the only person that still types "command" in the search? It's windows who is typing "terminal"?
Yes I know it's a terminal, but it's never been called that AFAIK. It's always been the command prompt.
calcopiritus@lemmy.world · 23 pts · 258d
The newest windows terminal is called "terminal".
I used to type "cwd", but after installing terminal, I type "terminal". Probably same situation for OP.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 258d
chronic wasting disease does seem appropriate for windows
calcopiritus@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 258d
My M turned upside down. I'm leaving it like this
JasonDJ@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 258d
It's
wt.exe. You should just be able to runwt.regdog@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 258d
Not long now until you see this:
Best Match
yopyop@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 258d
Today I typed "power" for powershell and I got this : https://www.imdb.com/fr/title/tt3281796/
DonutsRMeh@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 258d
I type "CMD" or "power"
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 258d
We Just Can't Win
DonutsRMeh@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 258d
wtf. š
yopyop@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 258d
Power gives you the power series, LOL
DonutsRMeh@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 258d
Damn it.
voytrekk@sopuli.xyz · 4 pts · 258d
Win + x, then i. If you want admin hit a instead of i.
funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 258d
ctrl+r "cmd" return
for me
Clanket@lemmy.world · 21 pts · 258d
Had to use a W11 machine last week and this was one of the 1st things that annoyed the shit out of me. On W10 you start typing an app name and press enter and it opens. What the fuck are they at changing that. And don't get me started on Outlook or Windows explorer.
Fuck you Microsoft. I'm going to Linux as soon as possible
renegadespork@lemmy.jelliefrontier.net · 7 pts · 257d
Ads. These are sponsored results, and they want them to show up first. Sure, you bought to OS (probably), but...
MehBlah@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 258d
When I recently upgrade a hundred windows 10 machines to 11 the majority of the keyboard time to do this was disabling all that shit.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 258d
Just use copilot to write a powershell script to disable all the crap Windows 11 ads.
trolololol@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 258d
I can't do that Hal.
The best I can do is install a plugin for more ads.
unwarlikeExtortion@lemmy.ml · 19 pts · 258d
My main gripe with this travesty of a "Start menu" is that it isn't the Tom Hanks movie of a similar name.
The other is that even if it were, it won't just play, but rather send you to the shiniest new subscription service to subscribe.
PissingIntoTheWind@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 258d
Taking 10 as far as I can go then just installing Ubuntu.
Zink@programming.dev · 10 pts · 257d
Check out Mint. It's based on Ubuntu but has Canonical's controversial stuff removed, plus an added layer of polish.
renegadespork@lemmy.jelliefrontier.net · 5 pts · 257d
It's so weird, because Ubuntu used to be the beginner distro. I started out on it and was hooked. The level of polish and out-of-the-box readiness was really welcoming to my old mac brain.
Ubuntu would actually still be a good beginner distro imo if it wasn't for the way they implemented their custom stuff. Even the distinction between apt and snaps is enough to scare away beginners.
thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 257d
yeah, it started out as THE beginner distro, but as other distros got better for beginners, it didn't, and instead canonical did weird bs
Blackmist@feddit.uk · 3 pts · 257d
What version of Firefox does it install? I tried Ubuntu, but the Snaps are having real trouble with my N150 CPU in the mini PC I bought. Cannot do hardware video decoding at all, despite the CPU being more than capable of it.
Zink@programming.dev · 5 pts · 257d
Well, the Snaps are one of the things they took out. Flatpaks are enabled in the software manager by default though.
I believe everything that comes preinstalled, including Firefox and LibreOffice and such, is installed the traditional way as if you did "apt install firefox."
I installed LibreWolf and like it. It's just firefox with telemetry removed and some privacy hardening out of the box.
moomoomoo309@programming.dev · 3 pts · 257d
No snapd on mint at all.
Mrkawfee@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 257d
I love Mint. I'm a Linux noob but took the plunge this year and installed it. Its not 100% plain sailing but it is close enough and worth it for the simple unintrusive OS interface that Microsoft has obliterated.
Zagorath@aussie.zone · 6 pts · 258d
Yeah that's my plan. My processor won't even support Windows 11, so that's not an option. (I used to think it was a TPM2.0 issue, but checked more recently and it's not. They just even more arbitrarily decided my processor is too old, while also claiming Windows 11 has the same or lower overhead than 10!) I'm also not far away from needing a hard drive, RAM, and GPU upgrade. So I figure some time reasonably soon I'll build a new PC. That one won't be getting Windows on it, unless I discover a game or something that I can't run on Linux.
justme@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 258d
I haven't met a single game yet that isn't running, but I'm not into AAA games anyway. Worst case you just resort to dual boot (don't forget, always install Windows first) or VM.
Zagorath@aussie.zone · 2 pts · 258d
Amusingly, just a couple of minutes after posting that comment, I went to the aoe2 Reddit to check if I was missing some details about a recent patch (for details related to this Lemmy post I had just made). And one of the first posts I saw was this one complaining about that very-much-not-AAA game failing to run recently.
The games in that franchise are like 90% of my gaming tbh. They all get great scores on ProtonDB, but the use a kinda weird hybrid of your Steam account and your Microsoft/Xbox account for syncing player details, and one of my concerns is the Xbox account might not work correctly.
Yeah, dual booting was definitely the plan. I didn't know you need to install Windows first though, that's...disappointing. And frustrating. My plan was to install Linux, stick with that for as long as I can, and if I later decide I need Windows for something, install it then.
Could be a good option. Dunno how smoothly these games would run in a VM, but worth a shot, and much better than needing to dual boot, if it does work smoothly.
justme@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 5 pts · 257d
Is not strictly necessary to install Windows first, it just makes it easier, because Linux will setup the bootloader for you. Windows in the others hand tends to nuke everything that was installed prior, so you would at least need to repair the bootloader. To be completely safe you can just disconnect the Linux drive, while Windows is installing. Definitely a path, if you want to go for Linux only for now.
VM is a good method once it is set up, but needs more initial tinkering with the passthrough, depending on your hardware. I don't know how those Kernel level anti cheat things work. Otherwise the game shouldn't even know it's in a vm.
Zagorath@aussie.zone · 3 pts · 257d
Not something that matters to me anyway. I don't own any such games currently, and don't intend to change that.
But thanks for the tips re the bootloader!
justme@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 255d
Btw, if you want someone that just works out of the box for games, have a look at bazzite. Steam and drivers installed right away. I run it happily for some time now.
Zagorath@aussie.zone · 1 pts · 253d
That's definitely interesting, but I use my PC as a general-purpose computer. I'd rather go with a general-purpose distro, like Ubuntu.
dustyData@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 257d
Don't dual boot. Instead, invest in two drives and dedicate each to each os fully. Way less headache and far more control. Easier to keep windows oblivious of Linux existence so it doesn't fuck with it.
Peruvian_Skies@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 257d
That's also "dual booting". The phrase never referred specifically to having two OSes on the same drive, just on the same machine.
Zagorath@aussie.zone · 2 pts · 257d
Isn't that still dual booting? Unless you have two PCs (even if you somehow rigged both PCs up in the same case with separate power buttons), you need a bootloader to choose which drive to boot off of. And unless I'm mistaken, two drives is not going to look notably different to the bootloader from two partitions on the same drive, is it?
dustyData@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 256d
There's a technical difference. On a single drive, GRUB (or any other modern bootloader) can handle multiple OSs that coexist on the same boot chain. Windows doesn't like this of course. On different drives it is the UEFI that chooses which drive boot sector to boot from, regardless of which bootloader it has. Here, Windows doesn't get a say, and it is less likely to break.
Historically, the first case was called dual booting but the second is not called that. If the same result is achieved, maybe the distinction doesn't matter anymore. However, in the olden days, there was only one disk allowed to have a master boot partition, the Device 0 in an IDE bus. Consumer PCs were limited to two IDE busses, with a device 0 and device 1 each, only one hard drive could have an MBR on the primary IDE. Now a days it is much easier to have multi-disk boot capabilities in hardware thanks to EFI system partitions (since mid 2000s), but it used to be necessary to fiddle with an MBR even if the OSs were on different disks.
It is an important distinction because dual booting, as a concept, almost always exists in relation with Windows. If you have two, three or more Linux OSs running on the same disk drive, it is not called dual booting, it is just booting and choosing your distro, as bootloaders like GRUB are multi-booting by default.
So, yeah, maybe it is dual-booting as well, but it is not what the original term used to mean. It is just Windows wasting space in a quarantined disk, which I still prefer.
Zagorath@aussie.zone · 1 pts · 243d
Whoops. Just cleaning up some old tabs and realised I never responded to this. Thanks! It was some really interesting info.
Hard to dispute this, except perhaps for the really niche situation of someone dual booting Linux on a Mac. Not especially useful very often, since Macs are a UNIX system. And because of that, not very common compared to Windows on a Mac, or dual booting Windows & Linux.
mushroommunk@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 257d
I can't comment on aoe2 specifically but Halo Infinite (through steam) and Minecraft both use my Microsoft account just fine on Linux Mint.
alias_qr_rainmaker@lemmy.world · -11 pts · 258d
kSPvhmTOlwvMd7Y7E@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 257d
Ah yes, OP bad
alias_qr_rainmaker@lemmy.world · -2 pts · 257d
rtxn@lemmy.world MOD · 3 pts · 257d
3-day timeout. Stop being a dick.
kevin2107@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 258d
Terminal cancer
NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone · 16 pts · 257d
This is why I have a custom shell on my work PC. This is the kind of shit search interface where the local hits pop up quickly after you typed but then jump away to display irrelevant guff like this just as youāre clicking on what you wanted.
rumba@lemmy.zip · 15 pts · 258d
Wait until corporate america figures this out, outrnext big blockbusters: cmd, taskmgr and devmgmt
rob_t_firefly@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 258d
I'm pretty excited about the Wget miniseries.
rumba@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 258d
I read that as ministries, and i'd be down either way :)
Agent641@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 258d
I'm looking forward to PowerShell (2026)
Jankatarch@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 257d
Without these ads how will they fund copilot for 12 more minutes genius?
Tundra@sh.itjust.works · 13 pts · 258d
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 258d
thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 257d
MrSoup@lemmy.zip · 13 pts · 259d
Is this true? Can't be true
fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 31 pts · 259d
Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
Windows search sucks balls and does stupid stuff like this all the time. Even when it's not a web search it might open some file named terminal and not the program terminal. It does that to me all the time at work.
Tja@programming.dev · 14 pts · 259d
It has for a decade, since Windows 10 basically.
korazail@lemmy.myserv.one · 5 pts · 258d
I think that adage used to work... however nowadays, with corporate greed enshittifying everything, I think it's safe to presume malice by default, at least when the actor is a company. Your neighbor probably didn't mean to do that thing that made you mad.
They no longer get the 'benefit of the doubt' after years of evidence that they will attempt to squeeze every penny out of their customers.
veni_vedi_veni@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 258d
Oh it's totally malice, like the "reminder" to want to share personal information to MS for a customized user experience, where you your only options are "yes, I want to eat shit" or "sorry, please ask me to eat shit later"
Or how they are clamping on people's ability to create local accounts.
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 258d
Yeah, Hanlon's Razor has always been suspect imo, at least as long as I've been aware of the term. Way too many malicious assholes these days.
FishFace@piefed.social · 5 pts · 259d
I believe you can disable the dumb search providers.
capuccino@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 258d
I do press Windows + R, then type cmd and hit enter.
Dumhuvud@programming.dev · 4 pts · 258d
cmd (Command Prompt) and Terminal are two different things.
capuccino@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 258d
huh, can't tell the difference between cmd, powershell and now terminal in windows
Agent641@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 258d
Winaero tweaker and open shell will do wonders if you have to use Windows 11
regdog@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 257d
Can't polish a turd
bbwolf1111@lemmy.zip · -4 pts · 258d
You can just do reddit. No need for 3rd Party Software at all. I'm team Linux nowadays
Zagorath@aussie.zone · 6 pts · 258d
What does this comment mean?
Huh? What does that have to do with anything? Nobody mentioned Reddit, or any websites that they "do".
A lot of people need various different specific software. Some don't need it but really want it. The comment you replied to was fairly clear: "if you have to use Windows 11". In that context:
Makes no sense.
bbwolf1111@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 255d
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Zagorath@aussie.zone · 1 pts · 255d
I'm being sincere here. I want to know what you're trying to say, but the way the previous comment was worded, it's impossible to work it out.
bbwolf1111@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 254d
I don't know. This application makes going back into a back/forth conversations, such as Reddit does. I might need to look into a GUI Client that runs Lemmy for Android instead of the browser.
spicehoarder@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 258d
Are you that dude that makes accounts for a few hours and deletes them?
BlackVenom@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 258d
Well after a few uses it's dirty right?
spicehoarder@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 258d
Something like that
spicehoarder@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 258d
SourGumGum@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 258d
What makes you think that? I'd like to be able to identify them as well.
spicehoarder@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 258d
They're brand new and this is their only comment
bbwolf1111@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 257d
No, I've never deleted an account. I made two accounts accidentally because I didn't understand how Lemmy worked with Instances, 1 I didn't use an email so when I got approved I forgot the PW I created & couldn't login back in. This is my 2nd try & because I don't know the PW for the other one, it's not deleted. Assuming you're thinking of someone else. Anyways I understand Lemmy now!
spicehoarder@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 256d
Well I hope you enjoy your stay, fellow .zip user
bbwolf1111@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 255d
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buttnugget@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 258d
Remember when Canonical pioneered this?
InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 258d
And it was bad then too; tho it was easy to uninstall those packages.
GottaHaveFaith@fedia.io · 10 pts · 258d
Thanks I hate it
Jhex@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 258d
I feel productive already, boss!
webghost0101@sopuli.xyz · 7 pts · 258d
On the one (windows) machine i actively use powershell i click the pinned start menu icon.
Windows has fucked my flow before by co opting my shortcuts. So this is the most reliable way.
On linux terminal is a shortcut, app launcher is a shortcut and searching apps to launch actually works and doesnāt open my browser that operates under a different privacy contract then your os settings.
I despised windows search long before i switched i just didnāt know any better.
__hetz@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 258d
On my one remaining Windows machine, I installed PowerToys and use the "Run" launcher. Alt+Space opens Run. If you lead with a
.you'll search programs.Alt+Space, .term, for example, should immediately show Terminal and you can slap enter to open it. You can also do stuff like= 1 + 1or= 0b101 + 0xffor quick calculations,%%for unit conversion (%% 10MB to Mb), etc. It's not KRunner, dmenu, etc but it definitely beats the hell out of the start menu.PowerToys "Keyboard Manager" might let you reclaim some shortcuts as well. I used it to swap Caps Lock and Escape but I'm pretty sure it can be used to create custom shortcuts. There's also some option to remap shortcuts on a program specific basis. So you can say
Alt+Tshould sendCtrl+Tbut only when Firefox has focus, for example. Haven't messed with it myself but I can see the value.Still looking forward to ditching Windows entirely but, in the meantime, MS has some decent tools that aren't included by default and don't seem to be advertised because power users aren't the target market and "they already know to look for it" I guess.
thisbenzingring@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 258d
the windows key + r will open the Run command window, seems a lot easier then what you did for that but the other stuff PowerToys do is worth it
__hetz@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 258d
Win+R, wt, enter
Alt+Space, wt, enter (or .term and auto complete will fill in "Terminal")
It's pretty much identical in terms of keystrokes. I just always forget "wt" is the way to launch Windows Terminal from Run, and that it works with PowerToys Run as well. My main sell was that the latter is a decent quick launcher with some useful tools built in to keep you from ever bothering with the start menu. I'm sure if I played with the Keyboard Manager a bit more I could probably go for something like Super/Win+Shift+Enter and skip Run or PowerToys Run altogether. I just haven't bothered for whatever reason.
imetators@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 6 pts · 258d
What is the difference of Terminal to say cmd or PowerShell?
Edit: seems to be the same thing as cmd. I usually access it with Win+R or search for cmd in start.Another edit: My work machine is Win10. There is no Terminal on my system it seems. If I search for Terminal in Start, cmd shows as the only option.
filcuk@lemmy.zip · 8 pts · 258d
Terminal is new and a lot more flexible. It's more of a frontend to whatever you're using, be it cmd, powershell or wsl bash
bhamlin@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 258d
To your edit, it isn't the same thing as cmd. It's more like konsole or kitty or gnome-terminal. It is a terminal container that can run cmd or powershell or bash for you.
It has other features that are nice, and that more useful systems have had since the 90s. If you're stuck on windows, it's to putty what ie used to be for netscape. You can use it to download putty, or use it and only be mildly irritated on someone else's system.
konalt@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 258d
Terminal can have multiple tabs, multiple different processes (so you can have a powershell and a cmd running in different tabs) and better WSL support AFAIK. It's
wtin the Run dialog. (I'm pretty sure typing "cmd" now just opens a cmd window in terminal too)hexagonwin@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 257d
It's what they made to replace conhost.exe, even open source so actually pretty cool considering it's M$.
skisnow@lemmy.ca · 6 pts · 259d
Not even a good film.
hades@feddit.uk · 19 pts · 259d
Not even a good Terminal film.
Hupf@feddit.org · 15 pts · 259d
Yeah, my first thought: not even the Tom Hanks one.
DieserTypMatthias@lemmy.ml · 5 pts · 259d
Afaik PowerToys has this Spotlight ripoff which searches for apps.
tordenflesk@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 259d
It's based on an older version of Vox:
https://github.com/Wox-launcher/Wox
TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.zip · -1 pts · 259d
Yeah I don't know why people who call going on the internet without using uBlock rawdogging use windows without running some script to gut all of this trash.
JigglySackles@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 258d
Win+x, a, left, enter. Admin power shell in a quick combo.
But I also get what you are saying. I'm leaving windows because of this. Migrating my services ATM then the last thing will be my win10 desktop.
OpenStars@piefed.social · 5 pts · 259d
Only $9.95
forthefirsthour,then$39.99thereafter.blinfabian@feddit.nl · 4 pts · 258d
no cancellation fee!!
for the first 5 seconds of your subscribtion, after that its $59,991984@lemmy.today · 4 pts · 258d
Tell me this isnt real...
chronicledmonocle@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 258d
Lol you know it is.
MeowerMisfit817@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 258d
Shhh, he is still on the negation part of the grieving
shalafi@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 258d
The bullshit lemmy tells me I see on Windows, I do not see. I have never once had a Windows issue that has come up on here.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 258d
it's right there dude. if you try touching it your hands ain't goin through
Jaybird@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 257d
plz1@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 259d
Is Terminal even a Windows app or alias for cmd.exe/PowerShell? I know the joke is how bad the start "menu" is, but maybe they could've searched for a real app?
I'm not a Windows user, I'm asking genuinely.
KiwiTB@lemmy.world · 23 pts · 259d
Windows Terminal is one of the only good things Microsoft has done in ages.
rozodru@pie.andmc.ca · 2 pts · 258d
it's honestly one of the best Terminal Emulators. wish I could get it on Linux in all honesty. I'm sure someone has but I haven't really looked into it.
SlurpingPus@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 258d
But ConEmu is still better.
possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip · 21 pts · 259d
Windows terminal is actually decent
The_Decryptor@aussie.zone · 15 pts · 259d
Windows Terminal is the terminal emulator that hosts the shell (cmd or PowerShell, or anything else really). It's the modern replacement for "conhost".
It's also a fantastic app, some of the devs are on Mastodon too.
Paulemeister@feddit.org · 6 pts · 259d
My only gripe with it is that it's a store app, meaning the path to the executable is very convoluted. So starting it via a powertoys shortcut is a hassle and I think only works for one specific version until the path changes
cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 258d
they have the preview release on github
cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 259d
i honestly wish they ported it to linux
Jankatarch@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 257d
At this point windows is just msys2 to me.
kopio@mas.to · 3 pts · 259d
@mod_pp They can't even suggest the better (Tom Hanks) Terminal movie.
sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 258d
... Ok, Computer.
-.-
YourMomsTrashman@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 258d
No surprises
sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 258d
... it tried, but i guess, the best it can is good enough.
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 258d
Shit has me climbing up the walls
moonburster@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 258d
I run enterprise to disable this trash behaviour on my gaming rig. I unfortunately want to play some titles that have predatory anti cheat :(
Kiwi_fella@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 257d
They paid people good money to design and crate that.
GenosseFlosse@feddit.org · 2 pts · 257d
In an unmodified windows it would also show random tabloid news from MSN or affiliates inside the start menu...
AnitaAmandaHuginskis@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 258d
Ironic...
m3t00@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 257d
sub office 365 for access to ms movie store.
X@piefed.world · 1 pts · 258d
cmd+space iTe-
enter
Thatāll do for now, I reckon.
klay1@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 157d
Its not even the right Terminal film
Psythik@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 258d
You can disable that shit with O&O Shutup 10
Alaknar@sopuli.xyz · 4 pts · 258d
Or... just turn it off in Search settings...?
Psythik@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 258d
TIL
But if you use Windows for any reason, I'd still recommend O&O cause it disables nearly every annoyance the OS has. MSEdgeRedirect and StartAllBack fix the remaining problems with Win11 (stops Windows from ignoring your default browser settings, and restores removed Start menu features, respectively).
scala@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 258d
How is this different that Winaero Tweaker?
Psythik@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 258d
IDK you tell me. I've never heard of it.
cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 258d
Misses the principle of the matter though.
Samsy@lemmy.ml · -8 pts · 259d
I would allow remote assistance... from that actress.
Tja@programming.dev · 11 pts · 259d
BONK!
xavier666@lemmy.umucat.day · 1 pts · 259d
MEGA!
possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip · 8 pts · 259d
Don't be a creep
KiwiTB@lemmy.world · -8 pts · 259d
To play devil's advocate, only people unfamiliar with Windows would look for a terminal that way.
PabloSexcrowbar@piefed.social · 92 pts · 259d
I disagree. Being able to slap the windows key and type the name of the program I'm looking for is one of my favorite features of both Gnome and KDE and I wish Windows worked similarly.
umbrella@lemmy.ml · 34 pts · 259d
laurelraven@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 258d
It does, in theory... However, in theory, practice and theory are the same, but in practice, they very much are not
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 258d
In KDE, you don't even need to click the start button, you can literally just start typing and krunner will pick it up
KiwiTB@lemmy.world · -3 pts · 259d
It does.... (Or did I've not used 25H2). But given the app starts with a w you can see the issue.
embed_me@programming.dev · 11 pts · 259d
In gnome you can search for any word of a program name and it will appear in the search result
FishFace@piefed.social · 5 pts · 259d
In KDE I type in "tor" and "factorio" appears above "tor browser"
Ephera@lemmy.ml · 4 pts · 259d
It shows up as "Terminal" in the search results, so I imagine that's what it matches against, even if it is colloquially referred to as "Windows Terminal"...
KiwiTB@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 258d
Windows has a alias system so for example memo shows notepad.
mech@feddit.org · -3 pts · 259d
Both Gnome and KDE also include a web search. And just like on Linux, you can disable it in Windows Settings.
drosophila@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 6 pts · 259d
Is it on be default? Because if so I'm glad I don't use that garbage.
Ephera@lemmy.ml · 10 pts · 259d
On KDE, it's just one of the suggestions, I believe, that you could search this term on the web. If you trigger that suggestion, it then opens the web browser to do the search.
As such, searching "terminal" wouldn't yield a suggestion from a web result that matches, but I'm pretty sure applications are prioritized above other results either way.
drosophila@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 5 pts · 259d
That's good to hear. It continuously amazes me how often search bars in some pieces of software manage to be worse than ctrl-f in a plaintext document.
mech@feddit.org · 3 pts · 259d
yes but your distro may have it disabled in their default.
sem@piefed.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 258d
Bit it will always return
PabloSexcrowbar@piefed.social · 1 pts · 258d
I don't think that's a standard inclusion, because it's not there on my fairly standard Debian install.
mirshafie@europe.pub · 41 pts · 259d
And? Why shouldn't I expect to be able to find essential OS tools and settings by using the OS search?
KiwiTB@lemmy.world · -17 pts · 259d
It shows it to you... Just not first option. The app is actually called Windows Terminal, which is why you get it by typing wt.
delcaran@feddit.it · 26 pts · 259d
That's part of the issue: in the picture is written "Terminal", so I expect to find it if I search Terminal. I don't care what is the real name under the hood, I'm searching something for the name you have given me.
ggtdbz@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 0 pts · 259d
Youāre not wrong but thereās something very funny about a gaggle of Linux evangelists complaining about it not being obvious what aliases to type to open something
delcaran@feddit.it · 4 pts · 259d
I understand them: I am an old Linux user, used to the command line. In there, once upon a time, a command has only on way to be called, and that way was the name under which the command was known and distributed. Aliases were a personal customization made by the user for his own amusement. I am still under the assumption that if a program is presented to you as X, then X is the command to type to run said program. But I understand this is now not as obvious, even in the Linux world.
ggtdbz@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 258d
Oh thereās absolutely no excuse for it not to open Terminal when you type
terminal. I canāt replicate it on my side but Iāve probably turned that āfeatureā off ages ago. Iām a little surprised at the downvotes, as Iām making fun of Windows. Linux used to have a reputation for its learning curve, especially knowing CLI commands. Daunting stuff for the average user. Itās better now, and beautifully enough itās Microsoftās fuckery with putting unwanted shit in their OS thatās teaching people more about the inner workings of the system theyāre using, both pushing them towards gutting the OS, and towards other OSes. In the Lemmy demographic thatās usually Linux, around me itās actually been Macs, and those are even more egregiously expensive where I live.Another way the esotericness tables have turned: the Windows configuration UIs have similar names, do adjacent functions, and arenāt listed anywhere in one place. You have to know what setting you want and where itās found. There used to be one Control Panel, and a few advanced tools you could find in the Start menu. Microsoft wants to āmodernizeā some of these, so theyāve pulled parts of their settings piecemeal into their new Settings UI (which they call an app, I donāt like that). But you still have some settings that are still in the legacy Control Panel UI. You have a ton of settings that are still in standalone legacy settings UIs. Some of them look like Windows 10, some like Vista/7, and thereās a handful that look like Windows 95. You need to know that the display color calibration options in the Settings UI can be overridden by the vendorās control software (thatās a whole rant), and that what you actually want is a standalone settings window called Color Management. You need to know what operations can be done in Disk Management, Disk Cleanup, Optimize Drives, you need to know that they exist, and you then need to know if the command you want is actually only achievable in
diskpart. I have nothing againstdiskpartbut I canāt tell you which among Terminal, PowerShell, or Windows PowerShell (or any of the x86 variations plural of each of them) is the right place to use it. I can intuitively tell itās not Windows PowerShell ISE or Azure Cloud Shell though. Yay for computer literacy. I type cmd into the Start menu and it works from there, so Iām content with that. I canāt say Raspberry Pi OS has this many configuration locations but once you know the two or three places to look youāre done.I know that I will have to move to Linux eventually. Iāve only complained about things in Windows that arenāt designed to abuse the users directly, which is a drop in the bucket, ethically at least, when you look at the responsibilities of the worldās most (or second most) influential company regarding personal computing. But I look at all this and feel like itās accelerating the scary trend of younger people getting worse with computers. I was able to follow instructions correctly in a novel computer environment to set up a mini homelab with a bunch of Linux servers talking to each other. People my own age and slightly younger at work seem to know fuck all about the computers we use and that terrifies me. We were supposed to get better over time, not worse! Thereās a new, younger IT guy, heās not much younger than me, and half of what Iām procedurally required to ask his help on is something he doesnāt understand at all.
Home server mountain hermit life is no longer over the horizon for me, thatās all I can say really.
delcaran@feddit.it · 1 pts · 258d
All you are saying resonates too much with me.. thankfully I have to deal with Windows only at work (and in a really painful way), I've managed to switch my home to Linux or BSD, even my old gaming rig.
BTW I think the downvotes where because in your previous comment was not clear on which OS you were throwing shade š
sem@piefed.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 258d
One of the hard problems I still have today in Linux is if I'm having trouble with software and need to know what it is actually called, sometimes that is difficult. Like how am I supposed to know the installer is called calamares or the text editor is called leafpad when the OS calls them "installer" and "text editor"
delcaran@feddit.it · 2 pts · 258d
Exactly, that is IMHO a not-so-sane default that some application launcher adopts. Thankfully you can switch to a more "normal" behavior, it's a flag somewhere in the configuration menus for the application launcher, at least in KDE and in XFCE
sem@piefed.blahaj.zone · 9 pts · 259d
This is how I do it. When I forget that I have it pinned on the taskbar or don't want to use the mouse. I don't need it enough on windows to remember the keyboard shortcut.
MrSoup@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 259d
Win+R?
KiwiTB@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 259d
Win+X. The most simple hotkey in windows after the Windows key itself.
lightnsfw@reddthat.com · 2 pts · 258d
Why? I use the start menu reach for every app that's not on my taskbar. How else would you do it?
possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 259d
Terminal the movie seems really obscure
OpenStars@piefed.social · 4 pts · 259d
The Tom Hanks one was really good.
titanicx@lemmy.zip · -18 pts · 257d
Ok. So you type the correct name of the program. Cause terminal ain't it. CMD and it opens fine.