The IT company Mullvad’s founder Daniel Berntsson is behind a giant donation to the populist Örebro Party, which advocates “comprehensive re-immigration” from Sweden. “It’s sad that it’s needed,” he told Flamman.
~ https://www.flamman.se/techprofil-ger-miljoner-till-orebropartiet/
369 Comments
Maroon@lemmy.world · 249 pts · 38d
God bloody dammit. I genuinely LOVE Mullvad and have tried to use their (not so cheap) services. I feel in this economy, privacy comes at a price and I was happy to do this.
Now, I realise my money is going to fund a POS far-right asshole.
Proton supports Trump.
Mullvad suports the far right.
Is there any major privacy respective service provider that isn't a bloody cunt?
Z745812939054@lemmy.zip · 96 pts · 38d
also thought mullvad was legit. also want to know if there's any alternative
artifex@piefed.social · 49 pts · 38d
I’ve semi-seriously been thinking about bootstrapping a VPN service just to have one “not an asshole” service (and that’s setting the bar low - I’m definitely an asshole, just not that kind of asshole). But I’m also a US citizen living in the US, so not the best choice for the job either.
Nomad@infosec.pub · 13 pts · 38d
JAVS - just another VPN service, let's fucking go.
SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 24 pts · 38d
If you build it, they will come
TWeaK@lemmy.today · 19 pts · 38d
I've been using IVPN.
CorrectAlias@piefed.blahaj.zone · 12 pts · 38d
I originally stopped using IVPN because of slow speeds. Has that improved?
TWeaK@lemmy.today · 8 pts · 37d
Hey,
No.
scytale@piefed.zip · 7 pts · 38d
Are you able to get through geo-restrictions on streaming services with IVPN? They have fewer servers than Mullvad it seems. Like for Singapore, they have 2, Mullvad has 5. In Japan, they have 1, while Mullvad has 9.
khannie@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 38d
Number of servers is less relevant than users per server.
Mullvad is a much bigger company so I'd expect them to need more servers.
scytale@piefed.zip · 9 pts · 38d
It is, when you want to evade geo-restrictions. More servers spread over different IP blocks means there’s more chances the streaming services aren’t aware of some of those IPs yet, so they aren’t blocking them yet.
khannie@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 38d
I'll preface this by saying I used to work in the industry.
The restriction evading isn't really related to the number of servers. VPN companies for streaming block evasions buy IP addresses that aren't data centre specific. Those ranges are well known and easily blocked. So for example when you browse you'll generally use a "standard" IP but while connected to the same endpoint if you fire up a netflix session it'll route that traffic out the "streaming" IP. This is also partly to try to prevent steaming companies from getting easy access to a list of those IPs
It's quite expensive to get IPs that aren't blocked by steaming services so that is a cheaper cost per user for larger companies. Where I was that cost was way more than the cost of any individual server per month (and some of those servers were hefty). That is one way that Mullvad would have an edge but it's minor.
For what it's worth I did have a call with the iVPN lads (twice I think) and found them lovely. Never interacted with Mullvad but I will never give them money after reading this. Weirdly I'm in the market for a new subscription and they would have been my go to. Their fiver a month thing is really very smart.
Edit: for geo blocks on standard browsing it would generally present to us as a support ticket. We'd raise it with engineering and they'd assign a new outgoing IP with whoever our provider was. We used M247 a lot and they were very responsive when that happened. Usually a few hours and it was sorted.
scytale@piefed.zip · 4 pts · 37d
Thanks for the info, I learned something new. So if for example I run my tv through my VPN and I’m watching youtube. When I switch to the netflix app, the VPN service determines that I’m trying to hit a netflix IP, so it routes it out to an outgoing IP specifically for netflix geo-blocking evasion that is separate from what youtube was using?
kobra@piefed.social · 3 pts · 38d
Its been a couple of years but I didn't have much luck with IVPN and mlb.tv but that was really the only one I tried at the time.
Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 14 pts · 38d
Proton VPN have had one of their chefs praising donald trump, but that's the worst I have heard about them. Swiss based (they have among the most protective privacy laws out there), email servers are deep down in the mountains (I don't know about the VON ones), no logs (for what I remember, maybe short lived ones?), made by the dudes at CERN.
So compared to others quite flawless IMO.
Only technical problem I have had is the VPN switches port from time to time and you have to rebind the network interface of your favourite torrent if you're running a tight ship. I have found no simple way of detecting when it happens.
Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 37d
If you're using qbt and gluetun https://gitlab.com/jopiermeier/gluetun-qbittorrent-port-manager
Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 37d
Interesting!
So it pings some entity and they send back your external port? I speed read the code (but I'm on mobile) and that's what it looks like. Any information greatly appreciated.
Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 37d
Gluetun itself already knows the forwarded port via NAT-PMP, this program just gets it from gluetun and assigns it in qbt via the qbt api and if it returns a 200 response it considers it confirmed, here's an example log:
waiting for qBittorrent WebUI...
qBittorrent WebUI is ready (authenticated).
port file did not contain an integer: /tmp/gluetun/forwarded_port
port file did not contain an integer: /tmp/gluetun/forwarded_port
gluetun provided forwarded port: 36884
syncing port 36884 to qBittorrent...
successfully updated qBittorrent to port 36884 (confirmed)
port file did not contain an integer: /tmp/gluetun/forwarded_port
port file did not contain an integer: /tmp/gluetun/forwarded_port
gluetun provided forwarded port: 39293
syncing port 39293 to qBittorrent...
successfully updated qBittorrent to port 39293 (confirmed)
Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 37d
Where is the Gluetun server running? I mean if you run it yourself you have to like forward all ports to it?
Thanks for the writeup!
Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 36d
So gluetun is for docker networks and lets you isolate traffic to/from other docker containers into a VPN, you run it and qbt inside docker containers with gluetun configured to your vpn, then qbt configured to route all its traffic through it.
Edit: I didn't have to port forward at all on my network for this to access it locally (I run it on a separate computer), because all the "outside" traffic in qbt is going through the vpn that has a forwarded port seeders/leachers can connect (which is dynamically updated as it changes with the aforementioned qbt port manager)
For example (truncated docker compose just the part related to above): services: qbittorrent-vpn: image: lscr.io/linuxserver/qbittorrent:latest container_name: qbittorrent-vpn depends_on: gluetun: condition: service_started restart: true restart: unless-stopped network_mode: "service:gluetun"
Then gluetun: services: gluetun: image: qmcgaw/gluetun container_name: gluetun restart: unless-stopped networks: - default cap_add: - NET_ADMIN devices: - /dev/net/tun - 8888:8888/tcp # HTTP proxy volumes: - /appdata/gluetun:/gluetun - /appdata/gluetun/tmp:/tmp/gluetun environment: TZ: $TZ VPN_SERVICE_PROVIDER: $GLUETUN_VPN_SERVICE_PROVIDER VPN_TYPE: $GLUETUN_VPN_TYPE # wireguard / openvpn WIREGUARD_PRIVATE_KEY: $GLUETUN_WIREGUARD_PRIVATE_KEY WIREGUARD_ADDRESSES: $GLUETUN_WIREGUARD_ADDRESSES VPN_PORT_FORWARDING: on VPN_PORT_FORWARDING_PROVIDER: protonvpn # or your provider VPN_PORT_FORWARDING_STATUS_FILE: /tmp/gluetun/forwarded_port # OPENVPN_USER: $GLUETUN_OPENVPN_USERNAME # OPENVPN_PASSWORD: $GLUETUN_OPENVPN_PASSWORD healthcheck: test: ["CMD", "/gluetun-entrypoint", "healthcheck"] interval: 5s timeout: 5s retries: 1 start_period: 10s
gluetun-qbittorrent-port-manager: image: jopiermeier/gluetun-qbittorrent-port-manager:latest network_mode: "service:gluetun" container_name: gluetun-port-manager depends_on: gluetun: condition: service_started restart: true qbittorrent-vpn: condition: service_started restart: true environment: - QBITTORRENT_USER= - QBITTORRENT_PASS= - QBITTORRENT_PORT=$QBITTORRENTVPN_PORT volumes: - /appdata/gluetun/tmp:/tmp/gluetun
HelloRoot@lemy.lol · 0 pts · 38d
safing
Flatworm7591@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 39 pts · 38d
Fuck me, this is gonna ruin mullvad, I hope. Never saw it coming though, wtf?
Sanguine@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 24 pts · 38d
Can we stop with the "proton" supports trump. This has been echoing since the tweet. I understand the initial recoil, I had it myself, but proton as an entity very clearly does not support trump.
Crozekiel@lemmy.zip · 57 pts · 38d
By that logic, Mullvad is fine too, because the entity doesn't support the far right. You are just sending your money to the company which pays the people that do... so...
Sanguine@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 49 pts · 38d
I mean I'm okay expanding that logic here as well for consistency. This is all on a spectrum, one of Mullvad's top employees donates millions to far right politician is on the more extreme end of that spectrum than a tweet that failed to read the room.
Taking your counterpoint even further, if you found out some low level employees at any company used a portion of their paycheck to support far right politics would you boycott? Obviously not, which should show you that you don't believe this should be a binary decision.
To be clear, I feel mullvad crossed the line here, my point was that the proton hate doesn't compare and is overblown.
Crozekiel@lemmy.zip · -21 pts · 38d
Proton itself sponsored a fascist influencer in france like just a couple weeks ago... You can pretend that having a MAGA CEO doesn't have anything to do with that, and that they would have stopped the sponsorship and caught their "mistake" without significant public backlash if you like, but the dots are connecting to a lot of us watching.
Also, nice strawman, but are they paying the low level employee enough to donate literally millions of dollars? Probably not. Does that low level employee have direct influence over the company? Probably not.
The idea that you stop using Mullvad because the founder personally made a donation to right-wing extremists, but you are fine with using Proton that sponsors fascists and has a CEO that platforms far-right extremists talking points is bonkers. The claim that you are separating "the entity" from the "people" doesn't even hold water.
ick@infosec.pub · 25 pts · 38d
I thought it wasn’t an actual sponsorship, just a referral link system anyone could sign up for and promote.
lastweakness@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 38d
You're right. But for some reason, Lemmy has a hate boner for Proton
webhead@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 38d
People just easily believe whatever sounds close enough because everything is awful. I hate these far right fuck heads but honestly the witch hunts for literally everything are just exhausting. I can't spend my whole life boycotting fucking everything. I just don't have the fucking energy.
Sanguine@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 6 pts · 37d
Exactly correct.. And their apology sounded genuine and they took ownership.
OP talking about strawman in my post, yet uses a prime example in theirs.
Lumisal@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 38d
That was a sponsorship link anyone was able to use.
They them immediately denounced the fascist and are changing how sponsorship links work.
Vs
Literal founder of company donates millions to literal neo-nazis, doubles down on supporting them
Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 5 pts · 38d
They don't have a MAGA CEO. That was reddit doing its thing and has been debunked since.
dreamkeeper@literature.cafe · 9 pts · 37d
Uh no? Show me where proton donated millions of dollars to fascists. Their CEO made an unbelievably stupid statement, and then walked it back, but they have not materially supported actual Nazis.
Innerworld@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 38d
https://medium.com/@ovenplayer/does-proton-really-support-trump-a-deeper-analysis-and-surprising-findings-aed4fee4305e
lastweakness@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 38d
Really good article, definitely worth reading
noodlejetski@piefed.social · 0 pts · 37d
the fact that it's been posted by random account that hasn't been active in any way before or ever since makes me suspect that it's just some PR damage control.
redsand@infosec.pub · 2 pts · 37d
Proton's VPN is sketchy anyway and JS crypto isn't revolutionary... Or even a good idea really. See tuta and torrent freak for alternatives
veniasilente@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 34d
The Proton board literally stood behind the CEO tweet and doubled down on it.
TWeaK@lemmy.today · 19 pts · 38d
Signal was kickstarted by the CIA, so dissidents in regimes they wanted to topple could communicate securely, but at least that seems genuine.
Matrix was an Israeli spy company's invention.
Telegram is Russian.
Reddit started out as the creation of Aaron Schwartz, but he got demonised and committed suicide. Then it was left to that shit eater spez, who sold his soul to the Epstein crowd making Ghislaine Maxwell a powermod among others, also hosting r/the_donald and bridging Trump's popularity from 4chan into the mainstream. Now he sells everyone's data to Google, while still not paying the manufacturers of that data anything.
TrueCrypt got shut down because it was too cool.
electric_nan@lemmy.ml · 29 pts · 38d
Do you have Signal confused with TOR?
TWeaK@lemmy.today · -5 pts · 38d
No lol but I guess they did it twice?
It was in the news a year or few ago that the CIA was ceasing its funding of Signal.
ayyy@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 38d
If that was in the news you’d think I would be able to find an article…
MonaySimpson@lemmy.ml · -2 pts · 38d
Thus was the first hit I got when searching.
https://www.kitklarenberg.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia
Railcar8095@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 38d
That article and sources are bollocks. They received donations in the past, from there the claim is that they are entirely compromised. There's a list of almost a hundred other apps and services, from fdroid to let's encrypt. Are they also compromised?
Fear mongering and tinfoil
MonaySimpson@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 37d
Like I said. It was the first hit I got when searching.
TWeaK@lemmy.today · -1 pts · 37d
The truth is in between.
The CIA funded Signal to be a truly secure and open source messaging platform for overseas dissidents to use, wherein they could support their efforts, while pursuing US political objectives.
Eventually, people in the US started to use it to evade oppression, and the CIA went "NO!! NOT LIKE THAT!!!"
Regardless, the proven facts of the matter are that the CIA funded Signal.
phase@lemmy.8th.world · 5 pts · 38d
And Veracrypt?
redsand@infosec.pub · 4 pts · 38d
Matrix does have fundamental design issues you would expect from cellebrite devs...
Simplex, Monero and Whonix are all as cool as veracrypt!
noodlejetski@piefed.social · 25 pts · 38d
and the SimpleX creator is a far righter, too https://mstdn.social/@rysiek/114630877715286899
wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz · 7 pts · 38d
You'd think with all the trans programmers out there we would have more tech companies built by leftists...
But I suppose the leftists are the ones building the platforms for a pittance while the generationally wealthy right-wingers are the ones paying people to do all that work...
TWeaK@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 37d
The ones built by leftists don't pay as well.
redsand@infosec.pub · 3 pts · 38d
Doesn't matter as much here. It's open source and has passed two audits. Look at the code. Use different servers if you want. Reimplement the protocol if you can.
No really, please somone do it in go or rust. I don't want to learn kotlin 🥲
Emerald@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 38d
VeraCrypt exists
TWeaK@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 37d
And we should be thankful that. But merely existing isn't cool.
Emerald@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 36d
How is it now cool that VeraCrypt exists?
merc@sh.itjust.works · -8 pts · 38d
Man, after his death Aaron Swartz has gone from an early employee of Reddit, to a founder of Reddit to now the creator of Reddit. Give it a few years and he'll have provided the VC money for it too.
TWeaK@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 37d
Aaron Swartz is and always was the guy who coded the core functionality of reddit. He was the man who Tim Burners Lee said would lead the charge for the internet into the 21st century.
Instead, the FBI drove him to death.
Spez and that other dude had the idea to make reddit, but Aaron built it for them. Then Randall from XKCD made the "Best" sorting algorithm.
Then Spez shat all over everything for personal gain.
Then you came here to post.
merc@sh.itjust.works · -4 pts · 37d
And he had superpowers too, and was about to bring peace to the middle east.
whaleross@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 38d
AirVPN?
redsand@infosec.pub · 2 pts · 37d
Didn't air have a data mining scandal like nord and others? Cryptostorm is legit though.
whaleross@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 37d
Not as far as I've heard? Any links?
redsand@infosec.pub · 1 pts · 37d
No. There have been so many over the years, i had to dig for half an hour the last time I tried to find stories on nord
whaleross@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 37d
AFAIK AirVPN is run by Italian hacktivist enthusiasts and are not part of the mess with NordVPN and other highly advertised. At least I've only heard positive things from nerds as they seem to fly under the radar of the commercial circuit. Like Mullvad did until some years ago when they started running ad campaigns.
redsand@infosec.pub · 1 pts · 37d
Not related to nord whatever I'm remembering was seprate. Maybe they just had a security fuck up or I'm thinking of one of a dosen other data mining VPNs ¯_(ツ)_/¯
quick_snail@feddit.nl · 1 pts · 38d
Yeah, I usually round Robin AirVPN, IVPN, and cryptostorm. Sometimes they leap frog each other in terms of features
Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 5 pts · 38d
Proton doesn't support Trump. Their CEO cherished some judge trump put in, and reddit had a field day with it.
It's made by CERN scientists, so I guess their PR is suboptimal.
incompetent@programming.dev · 4 pts · 37d
You seem to be downplaying his support for Trump and the current Republican Party. And if I remember correctly, when the backlash happened, he doubled down on his support.
YarrMatey@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 38d
Same here, we're left with AirVPN at that point.
terraquad@feddit.org · 1 pts · 37d
I personally use dnsforge.de which is essentially a public Pi Hole with additional configuration choices for strict or porn/gambling blocking. While this one is specifically german, I think there are probably other such services or you could always host your own. (I know you said "major service" but it's about the concept)
ZC3rr0r@piefed.ca · 127 pts · 38d
As a Swede - fuck that guy and the fucking Neo Nazis coming out of the goddamn woodwork everywhere. I was all-in on Mullvad, but that's changing today. Anyone got a good recommendation for a DNS over HTTPS alternative that's not owned by a racist/Nazi/Fascist asshole?
angrystego@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 38d
I don't want to change my VPN based on one article, so I'm getting mentally ready for resrarching, but I'll ask you first: how very bad is the Örebro Party?
freeman@feddit.org · 6 pts · 38d
its wild, but not your typical neonazi party read my comment https://feddit.org/comment/13683001
ZC3rr0r@piefed.ca · 12 pts · 38d
Okay, I suppose nuance is in order here so let's add some. Örebro partiet used to be hardline leftwing extremist and antifascist, but they explicitly moved away from their political roots distancing themselves from their old ideological convictions under the new party leader.
They have since started explicitly supporting populist and nationalist positions on migration and integration that attract the same kind of latent racist voter base that SD (the much more directly neo Nazi party) rode to fame and election victory.
If I had to classify their overall political identity they're reminiscent of the NSDAP leading up to their first election victory. They're in favour of authoritarian rule with both right- and left-wing populist goals such as improved public healthcare and forced remigration or forced assimilation of Muslim immigrants.
Overall your personal mileage may vary, but I'm not okay with my money indirectly supporting a political party that's contributing to the overall decline of civil discourse and feeding into the hated of migrants and the "us vs them" mindset that's poisoning society.
[Edit] @ambitiousslab@feddit.uk gave a great breakdown of their migration stance earlier in the thread. I'm just going to say that I'm not okay with ethnic cleansing and leave it at that.
angrystego@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 37d
Thank you. To be honest, I'm still not sure what to think. Here in Czechia, this kind of mixture of nice/good system critique and racist usually means the party is populist and won't be doing the nice stuff once in power. They'll be doing whatever is good for anyone, who investes in them + the racist stuff, which is also populist and kind of easier then doing good. Is that the case in Sweden too?
ramasses@social.ozymandias.club · 4 pts · 38d
Quad9 is great imo
gil2455526@lemmy.eco.br · 2 pts · 37d
Sadly Quad9 doesn't have an ad/porn/gambling blocker option.
ramasses@social.ozymandias.club · 2 pts · 36d
More for me /s
sudoer777@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 38d
Is there a reason you use DoH over DoQ, DNSCrypt, or ODoH/Anonymous DNS?
ZC3rr0r@piefed.ca · 2 pts · 38d
Mostly broader support for devices in my network. I know providers can still read my network traffic's SNI but for most common use cases it's better than nothing. And if I really need the anonymity, neither DNScrypt or a VPN will ever beat a layered proxy network like Tor.
labyrinth@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 38d
Wikimedia DNS?
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_DNS
fira@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 38d
Proton VPN?
Or maybe you can configure your OS to use a DNS over https provider in the settings. I use Quad9
ZC3rr0r@piefed.ca · 54 pts · 38d
Proton's owner also gives me the ick with his Trump and the Republican Party praising. I'll look into it further and see if there are any other good options.
[Edit] I learned that CIRA (Canadian domain name registrar) has DNS over HTTPS support so I'll be reverting to them. Canadian shield does sound pretty good for a non-profit service without tracking: https://www.cira.ca/en/canadian-shield/
Innerworld@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 38d
https://medium.com/@ovenplayer/does-proton-really-support-trump-a-deeper-analysis-and-surprising-findings-aed4fee4305e
CorrectAlias@piefed.blahaj.zone · 14 pts · 38d
That's about outright Trump support, which is not what the comment you replied said he did. They said Trump praising, which is actually kind of what Andy did. I do agree that he is likely just a liberal that didn't fully read the room when posting to social media, however he did praise Trump in that post for that very specific pick.
Personally, I wouldn't @ Trump and compliment him for anything, especially not if I was a leader of a large company. There is no need nor a reason to make trump's ego any bigger than it actually is, not with everything else he's actively doing to the world. For me, it's less about him "supporting Trump" and more about his inability to read the room and not see why that would be taken as supporting Trump.
He also did say that the republican party used to be better, which, while true, it's a low bar and it has been shitty republicans for a long, long time. Reagan was a republican, did the tables turn all the way back then?
noodlejetski@piefed.social · 3 pts · 37d
https://awful.systems/comment/6398186
Innerworld@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 37d
thanks
Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 5 pts · 38d
See the link by Innerworld below.
A highlight:
It felt very much like a witch hunt every time Proton was criticised. Almost like other VPNs wanted to tarnish them. But that would be a conspiracy to think I guess.
Now, I don't know any more, but that one tweet seems to be the only bad thing Proton has done as an organisation, which is a non bad track record IMO.
CorrectAlias@piefed.blahaj.zone · 9 pts · 38d
Proton has similar issues with leadership, unfortunately, just not as bad. For DNS, I use locally hosted unbound which retrieves records directly from the root servers. It's not the same as DoH, though, so if that's a hard requirement then you'd want something like Quad9.
SupersonicHail@lemy.lol · 0 pts · 37d
4 real isn't it a super socialist party? Lol... I guess I read the wrong articles 😆
mushroommunk@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 37d
Everything I've seen is that it used to be super socialist but under new leadership has been moving more and more right and embracing things like removing all brown migrants.
homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world · 89 pts · 38d
IT company Mullvad founder Daniel Berntsson is behind a huge donation to the populist Örebro Party, which advocates “comprehensive remigration” from Sweden. “It’s sad that it’s needed,” he tells Flamman.
Five million kronor. That's how much money the populist Örebro Party received in 2025 – from a single person. This is shown in the party's income statement, which Flamman has reviewed.
Behind the giant donation is Daniel Berntsson, founder and co-owner of the internationally successful IT company Mullvad.
"This is a donation from me personally," he writes in an email to Flamman.
The company has made large profits in recent years through the sale of so-called VPN services, which make it possible to surf anonymously. In 2024, the company had a turnover of 314 million kronor.
The five million from Berntsson constitutes the majority – a full 72 percent – of the Örebro Party's income last year. It is also the largest single private donation to a party in 2025. ———————————————
That’s the entirety of the article the toot references. No idea what it means.
ambitiousslab@feddit.uk · 66 pts · 38d
The main part is the party's support for so-called "remigration", which is
About the immigration policy of the party:
About the foreign policy of the party:
TWeaK@lemmy.today · 52 pts · 38d
Lol how is being born somewhere not a natural connection???
Prior_Industry@lemmy.world · 40 pts · 38d
Also how far do you go back? What’s the magic number? Cos at some point pretty much everyone’s is an immigrant to their country.
grue@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 38d
Swedish racists: "Expel everyone who isn't native."
Me: "Okay, fine then. Sweden for the Sámi!"
Swedish racists: "Wait, not like that!"
mumblerfish@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 38d
Well, according to the Sweden Democrats, the far right party the government collaborates with and their youtube channel (which they have allegedly cut ties with, but that proved to be a lie a while back) that also gave Allard his own show, had a program worrying about "third generation" immigrants, when talking about who is "great replacement" replacing Swedes.
Thats right, in a program where they were talking about how every single one with two foreign born parents and half (because "that seems fair", they said in the program) of those with a single foreign born parent are paricipating in a replacement conspiracy, they at the same time worried about the great gap in the statistics that does not keep track on who is third generation immigrants, so the replacement is even greater than that.
How far? If you've got a you got a grandpa with a sun tan you might be impure to these fucks. But our government thinks they are fine people.
Edit, oh yeah, the native Sami people and Jews are not Swedish to them either. They have doubled down on this many times.
KaChilde@sh.itjust.works · 9 pts · 38d
You’re falling for their rhetoric by asking that question. We all know that they don’t give an actual shit about the technicalities of their racism. If your skin isn’t as white as the driven snow, you are seen as inferior to these fucks.
Prior_Industry@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 38d
I’m not. Just pointing out how ridiculous and arbitrary it is.
TWeaK@lemmy.today · 8 pts · 38d
Maybe it's only okay if you're kidnapped by a viking XD
Prior_Industry@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 38d
Sounds like you entered the country via a small boat if that was the case. Sorry gotta throw those back.
MasterBlaster@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 38d
I just had a surreal vision of Trump sending the whole state of Minnesota to Norway and Sweden.
tomiant@piefed.social · 22 pts · 38d
🤮
whaleross@lemmy.world · 78 pts · 38d
Disappointing.
Seimhe@lemmy.world · 71 pts · 38d
(machine translation)
Fuck them. Not sure who to go with now. Paying monthly and not needing to remember to cancel were the main reason I used them.
Also, it seems safer to assume that all tech companies are rotten until proven otherwise.
ddplf@szmer.info · 21 pts · 38d
Jesus. Fucking. Christ.
This is fucking disgusting and extremely fucking dangerous. Nazi parties spread like a virus. One day they are completely underground, next time you look they are a major force in the parliament.
Mullvad literally grabbing them from the rock bottom where they belong and bringing them into light is unforgivable.
I'm from Poland and we have a huge problem with these parasite parties. They managed to shift the Overton Window so far into the right that the libertarians are literally on the left and the socdems are the extremely far left.
nullroot@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 38d
https://www.vpnscorecard.com/ seems like a good place to check for alternatives although it doesn't go into the politics of the company mostly. Still, their top scorer https://www.ivpn.net/ seems like a good bet.
Seimhe@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 38d
That's a decent link, thanks. Unfortunately Mullvad get a good score there too. As you say, the shady extracurricular stuff is missing.
Azzu@leminal.space · 10 pts · 38d
AirVPN
Seimhe@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 38d
I do like what I read on their about page. Thanks for the suggestion. I'll dig a bit deeper.
fraksken@infosec.pub · 5 pts · 38d
I'm with xeovo until somebody points out why not
tomiant@piefed.social · 58 pts · 38d
For FUCKS sakes...
I used to be a massive proponent of Mullvad, their product is just superior, but fuck this. I'm not supporting that shit.
Sigh
Sxan@piefed.zip · -6 pts · 38d
Dang. I've been using ivpn recently because I was having fairly severe þroughput issues on all my Mullvad exit nodes, but I kept my Mullvad account topped up and would use it occasionally just because I liked þe company so much. No more, I guess.
Until someone exposes someþing horrific about ivpn...
Rose@lemmy.zip · 57 pts · 38d
A self-described communist promoting right-wing ideas? Lemmy is quite familiar with that concept.
JackbyDev@programming.dev · 44 pts · 38d
How can the national socialist party be right wing? They said they're socialists!
/s fucking obviously I hope.
Talentlesssculptor@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 38d
"Allard and his party have been described as a nationalist[6], left-wing populist and right-wing populist.[7] He has also been accused of being a communist.[6] Biography
From 2009 to 2013, Allard was chairman of the Young Left's district organisation in Örebro. He worked for the election campaign of Oumar Mariko in Mali during the 2012 Malian coup d'état.[8][9] "
"In a post from 2012 Allard criticized the state of Israel and wrote that "Cuba is going to be placed under an embargo but the fascist apartheid state of Israel is defended until the last Palestinian child has been incinerated. Liberal politics."[17] In 2025 he again referenced the Israeli–Palestinian conflict and wrote that he “does not give a shit” about Israel or Palestine and that he thinks it is wrong to kill children regardless of which side perpetuates it.[18]"
"The Örebro Party with Allard as its leader says it wants to cut the salary for politicians and use that money to make dental care free/subsidized by the money taken from the politicians salaries.[25] On the topic of lowering the work hours Allard, in 2026 in the municipal assembly, voted in favor of a proposal by the Left party to enable a 30 hour work week with retained salary for some welfare occupations such as preschool teachers and employees at care facilities as a trial project that would after two years be evaluated.[26]"
https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Markus_Allard
Summzashi@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 38d
Lemmy in shambles lol
lemmelemmy@feddit.org · -2 pts · 37d
Huh what kind of adhd of an ideology is this lmao.
Def sounds like something would come up from up north. Disconnected and thinks they know what’s best for everyone (but themself first before anyone)
I’m sure they’ll find their great place within the eyes of whoever nutjub is going to be put in to the seat after trump.
Fuck this world man. Seriously. Idk what to say or think anymore.
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 37d
Instead of a concrete ideology, it seems like a handful of unrelated policies strung together. Like he held no opinion on anything until he decided (via ADHD? Unclear) to. But only on very specific things. No broader ideology.
I'm basing that entirely on this comment thread so I don't really know anything I guess.
ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 37d
A lot of Hungarian far-right parties promoted workplace democracies being the future when they didn't promote getting rid of democracy.
fox2263@lemmy.world · 42 pts · 38d
Oh for fucks sake is nothing sacred
Mooserider@lemmy.world · 40 pts · 38d
Okay, so no Mullvad, no Proton, no NordVPN... What's left that's not gross or double plus ungood?
uninvitedguest@piefed.ca · 11 pts · 38d
AirVPN.
merc@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 38d
Do they do port forwarding (i.e. can you run a bittorrent client behind the VPN and accept incoming connections)?
uninvitedguest@piefed.ca · 3 pts · 38d
Sure do.
CorrectAlias@piefed.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 38d
How are the speeds on AirVPN? Does it support wireguard conf?
uninvitedguest@piefed.ca · 4 pts · 38d
They do. Unfortunately I'm not a great spokesperson for speeds as my 100/30 connection would hardly stress the VPN connection.
CorrectAlias@piefed.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 38d
Thanks. Might be worth trying out.
quick_snail@feddit.nl · 6 pts · 38d
AirVPN, IVPN, and/or cryptostorm
YarrMatey@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 38d
Thanks, these will be my new recommendations to people.
microcapybara@sopuli.xyz · -1 pts · 38d
Windscribe?
YoSoySnekBoi@kbin.earth · 10 pts · 38d
Windscribe is almost entirely vibe-coded. I wouldn't approach it with a 10 foot pole
pjusk@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 12 pts · 38d
U know this for sure? Windscribe has been around for longer than that.
rozodru@piefed.world · 5 pts · 38d
shit their annoying emails are enough to not make me want to use them again vibe-coded or not.
sudoer777@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 38d
You don't want Windscribe to teach you the ABCs?
YoSoySnekBoi@kbin.earth · 4 pts · 37d
(Copied from another response)
Their source code is public and as of the past few months, AGENTS.md, CLAUDE.md, SKILLS.md, and other vibe-coding artifacts exist across nearly all their repos. Maybe it didn't start off vibe-coded but it is at least partly AI code now
pjusk@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 37d
Not happy about seeing that 😑 As much as it sucks, these days its not possible to avoid vibe coded projects.
At least Windscribe have been audited (last in 2024 afaik), so at least some confidence there. Personally, would also rather stick with this over Mullvad in light of the recent news, each to their own there ofc.
Been looking at IVPN for a while and did consider switching to it but Windscribe had way better deals so it was an easier choice then and there. Will think twice when have to renew.
microcapybara@sopuli.xyz · 3 pts · 37d
Any sources? I genuinely want to see them if you have them.
Windscribe is over a decade old, so they certainly didn’t start out vibe coded, and they have been audited.
I know their image is over the top “hello fellow kids” cringe, which has always been the case, but from what I can tell it’s backed by solid technical expertise.
YoSoySnekBoi@kbin.earth · 1 pts · 37d
Their source code is public and as of the past few months, AGENTS.md, CLAUDE.md, SKILLS.md, and other vibe-coding artifacts exist across nearly all their repos. Maybe it didn't start off vibe-coded but it is at least partly AI code now
microcapybara@sopuli.xyz · 3 pts · 37d
As a preface, I’m not trying to be argumentative, I actually want to be clear on the trustworthiness of Windscribe. I’ve considered them quite reliable historically as they seem to make the right moves, both technologically and philosophically.h
Are those .md files an automatic sign of vibe coding, or just general LLM use? I assume today that more or less any corporate coding environment will have such features (but I’m not a professional programmer). As a company whose currency is trust, I would hope they’re being careful with their use of AI.
There is a somewhat concerning +26k/-26k lines on the desktop app in April, but maybe that’s just copying a major release from the internal repository to the public one? I don’t have time to dig in for now, and TBH probably don’t have the skills to understand any possible smell.
I have a lifetime WS membership from long ago and have more than gotten my value out of it. Their European service used to be mediocre so I’ve switched around over the last 6 years-ish. I used Mullvad for a while until they dropped port forwarding, then Proton until the MAGA incident. Now I’m back to WS with a fixed ip and it has improved noticeably. If there’s a clear doubt, Air’s 3 year subscription is barely more per year than the fixed ip with WS.
kinther@lemmy.world · -16 pts · 38d
Private internet access?
Toz@fedia.io · 40 pts · 38d
Didn't they get bought by an Israeli company? (Kape Tech)
Twinklebreeze@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 38d
That's genuinely disappointing. I remember them getting bought out a while ago, but I didn't remember that it was an Israeli company.
kinther@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 37d
Oh damn. I had no idea. Canceling my subscription now.
one_old_coder@piefed.social · 19 pts · 38d
Nope.
matron1049@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 16 pts · 38d
Israeli owned
plsnerf7@lemmy.world · 36 pts · 38d
DrDickHandler@lemmy.world · 34 pts · 37d
What's up with every VPN company being facist right wing fucks?!
merc@sh.itjust.works · 32 pts · 38d
Anybody know of a VPN service that
So far, the ones with major problems are:
grittycat@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 38d
I'm unsure about the whether airvpn is owned by fascists but it seems to fit the rest of your criteria and at least on paper is italian
cmc@lemmy.zerolabs.sh · 3 pts · 38d
Agreed. This is what I use for my bittorrent server.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 38d
You know I hear this thing called nord I'm sorry I can't finish without laughing
Ethanol@pawb.social · 6 pts · 37d
NORD VPN! To protect your phone from being hacked because surely that's what a VPN does! BUY NORD VPN NOW!
merc@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 37d
What is it about them that's especially bad?
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 37d
Bad? Nothing really that I've experienced (because I have no experience) I just like joking about the pervasivenesss of their ads. They're the VPN Shen Yun, so I keep expecting to hear about them being associated with a cult.
pseud@lemmy.zip · 7 pts · 38d
Njalla is owned by Peter Sunde and almost fits the bill.
Minus the exit nodes around the world.
noxypaws@pawb.social · -7 pts · 37d
njalla censors queer voices and holds their DNS hostage for it. njalla is not to be trusted.
i cannot comment further on the specifics here sadly but I will never give njalla a single fucking penny, personally
bold_omi@lemmy.today · 11 pts · 37d
I can't find any information on this. Can you provide a source?
noxypaws@pawb.social · -10 pts · 37d
please re-read my comment in its entirety.
bold_omi@lemmy.today · 8 pts · 37d
I do not see a reason you could not discuss this. However, am not asking you to discuss it. I am asking for a source.
If you cannot back up your claims or provide a source which can, I have to disregard your post as slander. I don't want to do that if you are being honest. I am only asking for intellectual responsibility on your part.
lemmelemmy@feddit.org · 6 pts · 37d
IVPN is good. https://www.privacyguides.org/en/vpn/#recommended-providers
Idk how this Airvpn suggestions are popping up. Never even heard them before.
merc@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 37d
I've heard of them, but I don't know much about them.
As for IVPN:
Sniatch@feddit.org · 2 pts · 37d
So it's the same as Mullvad, because they also removed it in 2023.
bold_omi@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 37d
ProtonVPN qualifies in my book under these guidelines, but different people are more or less stringent with what they'll tolerate on the fourth requirement you specified.
amos@slrpnk.net · 1 pts · 38d
I think AirVPN fits that criteria, no?
merc@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 37d
I don't know, that's why I'm asking.
Reshirams_Rad_Slam@mastodo.neoliber.al · -1 pts · 37d
@amos @merc @grok fact check these. Search.
FoxtrotDeltaTango@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 37d
Try proton vpn I guess
MML@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 38d
Proton?
AliasVortex@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 38d
Unless I'm mistaken, also problematic
merc@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 37d
What's the problem with Gail Slater?
coffeewithalex@lemmy.world · -8 pts · 37d
When you smell something bad when you're next to someone, it's probably them.
When you smell something bad when you're next to anyone, it's probably you.
godsammitdam@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 37d
When you smell some bombs all around you, it's probably Trump and Netanyahu
Completed the rhyme for you 😉
TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world · 28 pts · 38d
Why can't we have nice things??!!
GreenKnight23@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 38d
it's almost like money and greed breed power hungry assholes...
TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 38d
Apparently the longer someone is in power, the more their brain structure changes. I guess the phrase "your head is getting bigger" is physically true after all.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 38d
When's the last time you updated the firmware on your duck
Echolynx@lemmy.zip · 27 pts · 37d
I'm surprised that Sweden allows individuals to donate that much. Million dollar contributions from a single person should not be legal anywhere.
Iceman@lemmy.world · 24 pts · 37d
Shit, not everyday you see your hometown on Lemmy of all places. I know Allard from my syndicalist youth days, him beeing head of the local leftpartys youth wing. This party is more of a local populist left party. AMAA i guess.
itrealgood@mander.xyz · 23 pts · 38d
Wildmimic@anarchist.nexus · 33 pts · 38d
He had some bad ideas, but hasn't yet been caught financing fascism if i remember correctly
XLE@piefed.social · 14 pts · 38d
He talked up the Trump administration when he should have known better, but talking them up is not as extreme as funding them. I think. YMMV.
Archer@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 38d
If you’re stupid enough to believe that tripe or cynical enough to spread it you’re on my shit list. He’s either complicit or an idiot, either way not someone I’m giving money
JustEnoughDucks@feddit.nl · -2 pts · 38d
Besides financing fascist YouTube's including a French fascist and the Brazilian son of a dictator who was one of the leaders of a fascist coup.
Besides those.
leraje@piefed.blahaj.zone · 16 pts · 38d
https://www.ivpn.net/ maybe?
TWeaK@lemmy.today · 7 pts · 38d
About the best we can do perhaps lol
harrys_balzac@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 38d
Looks like it might be okay. Price is pretty good. I have time left on my current Mullvad sub, so I'll have to find a new provider in the next 3-4 weeks.
Hund@feddit.nu · 11 pts · 38d
Proton has done some questionable things as well. The most recent is this.
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48446899
WalrusDragonOnABike@reddthat.com · 7 pts · 38d
I feel like I've seen AirVPN recommended in the past. Do they have any dark history or security downsides?
weilii@lemmy.lacasabien.space · 13 pts · 38d
I moved to air vpn when mullvad disallowed port forwarding over the vpn and I have been pretty happy. When i looked into security audits it seemed to be the closest to mullvad in quality, while still letting be get a port though the VPN. I did not look into their founders politics. Until reading this today i had still been reccomending mullvad to all my friends that were not hosting stuff and im pretty pissed that i had been doing that now.
quick_snail@feddit.nl · 3 pts · 38d
AirVPN, IVPN, and/or cryptostorm
Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com · -2 pts · 37d
The first thing I found when searching for IVPN is that they're based in Gibraltar.
That means British Law, meaning special information courts with court orders for mass trawling which they can't divulge to the public if they receive one, worse than the US even because in the British version of those courts there are things like the defense lawyer not being able to be present for court hearings and never getting told if the court rules against them, only if the court ruled in their favor.
That's almost as bad as choosing an Israeli-owned VPN.
I did use cryptostorm ages ago, but at least back then their speed was like 1Mb/s. Maybe they're better now.
Somebody else pointed out that AirVPN is based in Italy, which is a member of the 14 eyes. No idea how nasty their surveillance laws are or not, though I doubt they're as nasty as the UK.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · -1 pts · 38d
dint proton also donated to the far right too.
Shaunhitorigoto@lemmy.zip · 23 pts · 38d
Ffs I was planning to switch to Mulvad since my Nord subscription is finally expiring next month, then I find this shit. I'm looking into AirVPN. They sound solid enuff.
Wispy2891@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 38d
They look trustable (no email, payment in monero, no tracking) but they're incorporated in Italy which is one of the stupidest countries in the world for this purpose
Have you ever wondered why usually VPN companies are based in countries like Cyprus, Panama, virgin islands or Labuan?
Shaunhitorigoto@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 38d
Yeah that's a good point haha tax havens for the W I guess. On another note, I think Proton VPN is also a good alternative since they're based in Swiss, where data protection laws are mega strict.
ohulancutash@feddit.uk · 8 pts · 38d
Proton has given user data to the FBI and French authorities.
Summzashi@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 38d
Italy is a 14 eyes countries which disqualifies any VPN service thats hosted there.
biofaust@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 38d
I am in Italy, AirVPN is Italian, and every page of their site states that you cannot access their services if you're an Italian resident.
Any idea why?
FG_3479@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 37d
What about IVPN?
lemmyng@lemmy.world · 21 pts · 38d
FUCK, THAT MEANS I GOTTA GET RID OF MULLVAD VPN!
Any FOSS VPNs on F-Droid I should consider?
Hund@feddit.nu · 18 pts · 38d
You shouldn't use a VPN provider that doesn't let you use Wireguard. If they require you to use their own client, they're either up to no good or just dumb and shouldn't be in this business to begin with.
Summzashi@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 38d
So Mullvad is over. What's the next best VPN?
I literally just ran out of time on my subscription too lol.
Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it · 19 pts · 38d
Oh cmon! I trusted 'em to not shit in their pants, what next? We discover that Torvalds and Stallman are transphobic?
incompetent@programming.dev · 17 pts · 38d
ThunderQueen@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 38d
Yuyarl@sh.itjust.works · 17 pts · 38d
https://social.kernel.org/notice/AWSXomDbvdxKgOxVAm
Brahvim@lemmy.zip · 8 pts · 38d
TIL kernel.org has a Mastodon instance.
Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it · 4 pts · 37d
My original comment was ironic but having a confirm that his political ideas are not bullshit is nice
themaninblack@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 38d
Speaking as someone who does some work for Stallman, although he is right 99% of the time, that last 1% is a doozy
x00z@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 38d
The title is misleading because it doesn't mention the millions are in Swedish Krona (I presume).
5 million krona would be €450 800.
matlag@sh.itjust.works · 14 pts · 38d
1 cent for that cause was already too much!
WalrusDragonOnABike@reddthat.com · 13 pts · 38d
That's still the majority of the donation for that entire party. All from a single person.
farmgineer@nord.pub · 2 pts · 38d
A Swedish article in a Swedish publication about a Swedish guy and his Swedish company paying in Swedish kroner is misleading?
trolololol@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 38d
You forgot to say the part where the title is in English but the currency is not mentioned. Is it pounds? Euros? Nope, Swedish crowns. Since when it's acceptable to skip the currency no matter what it is?
farmgineer@nord.pub · -5 pts · 38d
I still disagree. It's also why it's important to not judge things only on a title. It's still a lot of money in just about any currency that would be reasonably used in this case. At best it's ambiguous, but I would not call it misleading.
x00z@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 38d
It depends on the audience. From what I see, the most common currencies on of Lemmy users are USD, EUR, GBP, CAD.
Here's a hypothetical: I once received 5 million from a guy. But it's only €280 because it was Zimbabwean Dollar.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 38d
Isn't it kroner or is that a different currency?
Zizzy@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 6 pts · 38d
Thats norwegian
gusgalarnyk@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 37d
Thanks guys for posting this and for suggesting alternatives. I'll look into airvpn I guess. Fuck anyone who wants to make society worse by giving into their worst character traits and base instincts.
foremanguy92_@lemmy.ml · 16 pts · 37d
What the fuck did I just see?? Mullvad after Proton.. So sad.. :(
DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 14 pts · 37d
Mullvad was dead to me when they pussied out and took away port forwarding. That's how I knew they were compromised
teslasaur@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 38d
Örebropartiet is a conservative left party. Think China, rather than say AfD in germany. Flamman is also a shit show. The owners pretend to be left, but they gladly embezzle money from Malmö city.
https://www.sydsvenskan.se/malmo/sydsvenskan-avslojar-flamman-lever-pa-bidrag-cheferna-tjanar-miljonbelopp/
SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 37d
The wiki for the Örebro Party actually describes it as not identifiable as left or right and the founder was actually far left. It also advocates for things like free dental care and anti-corruption. So things aren't as simple as purely anti-immigration which is very populist in Sweden.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%96rebro_Party
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 12 pts · 37d
God. Fucking. Dammit.
godsammitdam@lemmy.zip · 12 pts · 38d
The only option now is to oust the founder entirely.
yamper@piefed.social · 11 pts · 38d
as soon as i started to see billboards and bus adverts i had a feeling mullvad wasnt what i thought it was. sad, i was hoping i was wrong.
halferect@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 38d
So like you get a bunch of money and become evil.
roomy@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 38d
Man and i just renewed my subscription. Why do people always get their shit twisted in politics or whatever, its not like they need the money, donate it instead.
I HOPE this is fake. I find it hard to belive
12510198@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 13 pts · 38d
If it hasnt been 14 days, and you didnt buy with cash, crypto, or gift cards, you can request a refund. I also recently brought a few months, but unfortunately I learned about this just a few days too late.
Edit: Mullvad is honoring refunds past the 14 day window.
roomy@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 38d
Thank you! Just sent a refund, whats next now? Ive seen people mention AirVPN
12510198@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 38d
I still havent decided what I'm gonna switch to yet, I've been looking into AirVPN, IVPN, and Xeovo. I was really interested in Xeovo, it has all the features I used with Mullvad, except for SOCKS proxies, but I just learned that it even exists today, and I could barely find any endorsements or discussions about it, its probably fine and legit, but it just gave me a bad feeling. AirVPN has all the features I used with Mullvad, except SOCKS proxies again, but it does have port fowarding, it also has a decent sized userbase and a long history. IVPN has every single feature I used with Mullvad, and a decent history, however they only support wireguard connections over IPv4, and they said that they're still working on their IPv6 setup.
I still have months of time on my Mullvad account that I cant refund, I'm gonna continue to use it until it runs out and get what I paid for, if IVPN gets their IPv6 setup working by the time my Mullvadn runs out, I think thats who ill be switching to, otherwise ill probably go with AirVPN, but I have a lot of time left, so I think ill keep Xeovo in mind, just incase there are any developments there.
voxel@feddit.org · 7 pts · 38d
Rose@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 38d
So people will personally choose not to use Mullvad.
Sniatch@feddit.org · 6 pts · 37d
I read iVPN is a good alternative to Mullvad
GreenShimada@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 38d
Y'all assume privacy is some left-of-center thing?
You ever notice how the right always assumes privacy is only for pedos? That's what they use it for, they can't imagine any other use for it.
ZombieCyborgFromOuterSpace@piefed.ca · 5 pts · 38d
You know who hasn't given money to far right extremists? Proton and it's founder.
I remember when people went ape shit because the CEO, Andy Yen, approved of one of Trump's pick for the antitrust division.
Then the antitrust pick happened to be good at her job, so Trump fired her and people realized Andy wasn't so wrong after all but still hated him.
Everytime I tried to defend Proton, I got downvoted and insulted over this. Got called a MAGAt and a neo nazi sympethizer. I was told to use Mullvad and that it was so much better and I wouldn't be encouraging some right wing sympathizer even though Andy Yen never took any political stance.
Well who's laughing now?
ysjet@lemmy.world · 33 pts · 38d
You're probably downvoted and insulted because you made up a narrative. He straight up said Republicans were the party of privacy, and were shilling them. The backtracking 'Oh I was just supporting the pick' was Proton's PR company coming later, after nuking a significant number of reddit posts from andy yen doubling down, as well as iirc the entire mastodon thread where he was doing the same. It was wild as fuck to watch in real time, we were literally joking in discord that some poor intern was probably trying to physically wrestle the keyboard away from Yen while screaming for someone to call their PR company.
That whole fiasco is literally why Proton no longer uses mastodon, because no one there let them forget the whole thing despite attempts at nuking the posts from existence.
This isn't the first time proton, and andy yen specifically, has shown a troubling tendency towards supporting fascism. Vibe coding their apps is also a big warning flag just from a security point of view as well.
I've still been hesitantly recommending proton VPN to my friends, because a questionable VPN is better than no VPN, and most people aren't willing to shill out money for... well, mullvad used to be what I recommended if they were willing to pay for it, but I guess I'll have to rethink that now. But yeah, it was, to my knowledge, the best free VPN, though that's a low bar.
ZombieCyborgFromOuterSpace@piefed.ca · -1 pts · 37d
You got a source for that?
ysjet@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 37d
Well, there's his literal original post on X, praising republicans as the party of privacy against big tech: https://x.com/andyyen/status/1864436449942110660 When people lost their shit, he went on reddit and posted an 'official proton response', doubling down: https://archive.ph/quYyb (archive link because proton PR eventually came in start deleting things and creating a new narrative)
When that was deleted, proton claimed it 'wasn't actually an official response' despite being on the official proton account and literally saying 'proton's official response is', and a shitload of now-deleted doubling down in the thread that I don't currently have time to find, but you can probably see them in the thread by looking for the outraged responses to deleted posts (or finding whatever the current deleted-reddit-mirror is, I don't know the most up-to-date one atm). They then claimed they were 'politically neutral' despite that literally being impossible by dint of being pro-privacy, which isn't politically neutral at all. https://old.reddit.com/r/ProtonMail/comments/1i29k9t/proton_shouldnt_use_their_official_socials_to/m7csaky/
I don't have time to really dig in and find all the deleted reddit/mastodon posts for you, but they're still around because the internet is eternal, and deleting something only hides it from shmuchks who don't know better, so I'm sure you can find em.
MissingInteger@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 37d
Here, 2 are some now deleted Mastondon responses from Proton.
Hund@feddit.nu · 20 pts · 38d
Proton has sponsored some French (?) rasist person recently. They have apologised for it and said it was a mistake. However. This is not the first stupid thing they've done.
PS. I'm no way a fanboy of anything. While I have been a Mullvad user for multiple years now, it seems like I have to reconsider that.
ramasses@social.ozymandias.club · 1 pts · 38d
Omfg I am tired of this narrative, the guy signed up for their PUBLIC AFFILLIAT PROGRAM, they did not sponsor him. A PUBLIC AFFILIAT PROGRAM which anyone can sign up for.
Talentlesssculptor@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 38d
Still does not defend Proton actually affiliating with them.
Hund@feddit.nu · 4 pts · 38d
It was a sponsorship and Proton's PR team accepted him. It's likely that they made a mistake, and that what's matter. Their product is based on trust, you can't afford to make mistakes like this. Or other mistakes like the previous incident.
GreenKnight23@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 38d
nobody. because when fascism wins, everyone loses.
JustEnoughDucks@feddit.nl · 10 pts · 38d
Except for financing a French fascist and a Brazilian fascist who is the son of a dictator who was one of the leaders of a fascist coup... You know, besides them.
kyTdKZx9PtDQ9e56u06@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 10 pts · 38d
They responded to that recently.
https://www.reddit.com/r/ProtonMail/comments/1u05xs2/comment/oqgihvq/
edit For those that don't want to click -
"You're right to raise this, and we want to address it directly and provide you important context on how this happened.
Vincent Lapierre's channel should never have been part of our affiliate and sponsorship program, because we intentionally avoid association with channels whose content could distract from our message and divide our community.
Proton operates globally, and while our services are available to everyone regardless of political views and our mission is consistent everywhere, our knowledge of every local media landscape is not. In this case, our team didn't have enough context about the French space to make a well-informed decision, and that's on us.
We also want to be straight about what a placement like this is and isn't. An affiliate or sponsorship arrangement is a transactional placement for awareness, not an endorsement of a creator's views. In the case of Vincent Lapierre, this was a single video sponsorship, not a partnership.
But that distinction doesn't excuse what happened here. The responsibility to vet who we put our name next to is ours, and we didn't meet it this time. We're now reviewing our vetting process and our guidelines for our marketing agencies to ensure this doesn't happen again.
If you see something like this again, tell us. We rely on your feedback and vigilance."
trolololol@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 38d
Wtf are they donating to strangers? That's too many ooopsi daisies, wtf?
I am also a candidate that will defend VPNs. And I'm a good person. Trust me bro, and send me the money. /S
JustEnoughDucks@feddit.nl · 0 pts · 38d
Yes, they likely brought on a PR person after their last major fuck up. It directly contradicts what those youtubers said about the sponsorship. Who knows who is telling the truth.
That AI-generated apology is better than doubling down like the last time, but they shouldn't be treated as this "oh they are clean and haven't been caught doing anything".
Though they didn't apologize for the Brazilian fascist support because that didn't go viral like the French one. They might still be paying him.
merc@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 38d
its
moelassus@mastodon.social · 0 pts · 12d
@ZombieCyborgFromOuterSpace @e8d79 If more people were to think for themselves rather than jumping on the rage bandwagon, they would know this was all overblown BS. I’ve watched several interviews with their CEO and there is no way that guy is a friend to fascism or Trump. He’s pro-EU sovereignty, pro-privacy, pro-democracy and decidedly anti-US Big Tech. Whether you like their products is one thing but all of this virtue signaling is really weird.
Doomsider@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 38d
What in the serious fuck are you talking about, Proton just got caught giving money to far right influencers. "Accidentally" of course. They promise not to do it again, lol.
Also Andy's comment about Trump being anti-trust has aged like fine milk. It is almost like you should just keep your mouth shut when you don't know what the fuck you are talking about
Perhaps you should stop giving corporations your hard earned money.
Talentlesssculptor@lemmy.world · -2 pts · 38d
Is this /s because proton sponsored Far right Youtuber Vincent Lapierre and then had to apologize for it?
ZombieCyborgFromOuterSpace@piefed.ca · -1 pts · 37d
They never sponsored him. He filled out some form online and it was an automated process. They also didn't know who the fuck that guy is. I'm French Canadian and even I don't know who he is. I never heard of him.
ohshit604@sh.itjust.works · -15 pts · 38d
Welcome to Lemmy, either conform or get ousted. It’s almost like Karl Marx is here with us today.
ZombieCyborgFromOuterSpace@piefed.ca · 1 pts · 37d
People just don't go read the sources and think for themselves and let the communities dictate how to think.
Anyway, I don't care. Because I know I was right.
kepix@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 37d
how trustworthy is this?
nkk@programming.dev · 4 pts · 38d
Right after I paid for another year.
sickday@fedia.io · 3 pts · 38d
Guess I'm going back to AzireVPN.
Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 37d
Owned by Malwarebytes, a US company - that means FISA courts and secret information trawling court orders.
sickday@fedia.io · 1 pts · 37d
According to their security page it doesn't seem like that would matter; they wouldn't have any information to share. And it helps that they've been audited by a third party
Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 37d
Apparently FISA courts can order the installation of runtime surveillance software.
Surveillance doesn't work like the part of crime investigation where the investigators can get a search warrant from a Court (which in this case would be to get some logs, which as you pointed out don't actually exist), it works like wiretapping where the court orders are to install said wiretapping equipment and it then just stays there tracking everything that happens.
What that "no-logs" stuff does from the point of view of users, as I explained in another post, is to stop things like rights owners being able to track who was pirating their copyrighted works from an IP address and timestamp as that would require access to logs which don't exist, not stop state surveillance by countries which have surveillance courts that can secretly order companies in their jurisdiction to install surveillance software in their systems.
Mind you, normal courts can also order them to install wiretapping software, but they're not going to do it for non-commercial copyright violations, plus the Laws that apply don't allow dragnet surveillance (it's only the "special" shit that came out after 9/11 like the Patriot act that created such special courts and allow them to secretly order the installation of systems and software for mass surveillance)
So, yeah, if all you care about is pirating without getting letters from lawyers demanding money from you, then any no-logs VPN is probably fine. If you want to avoid state surveillance, then you want to avoid VPNs based in countries with surveillance courts and legislation as well as VPN exit points in such countries, and that means at least the US, UK and Israel.
sickday@fedia.io · 1 pts · 37d
Thanks for sharing, I didn't know any of this. If you have some sources on this stuff please share, I'd like to get more familiar with this sort of thing. Quick question though: How would installation of runtime surveillance even work for Azire? They don't have local or remote access to do that.
Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 36d
Theoretically a court can actually order the people that installed and deployed that to install something else instead.
If you've subverted the organization itself, it doesn't matter what the organization claims to have as hardware and software.
Anyways, if you genuinely want to know more, go read about the Snowden Revelations, 5-eyes (previously 4-eyes), FISA courts and so on.
sickday@fedia.io · 2 pts · 36d
Appreciate it. I'm only passively aware of these topics. Thanks for sharing info rather than just jumping to insults and judgement.
RVGamer06@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 38d
e che cazzo, i added 6 months not long ago. guess i'll try ivpn
AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 38d
Is there a self hosted VPN option?
Gorilladrums@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 36d
Claiming immigration policy in general is fascist is just an ignorant perversion of the word that lessens its weight.
Itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 37d
I'm white. Irish descent really which to a lot of whites isn't quite white. I don't fear brown folk but these 'pure' inbreds fear it on some level that has nothing to do with reality.
other_cat@piefed.zip · 1 pts · 36d
Regarding alternatives, I remember for a little while NymVPN was considered a hot item and then suddenly crickets. Did something happen to make folks disinterested in them? I do think they're pretty heavily involved in cryptocurrencies, but I could be misremembering.
LoafedBurrito@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 0 pts · 37d
Well shit. I need to change to airVPN now. I'm worried as I've heard people had their IP's leaked to their ISP with AirVPN, BUT that could have also been user error.
_lilith@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 38d
Is express VPN ok as an alternative or am I a dumbass?
MrShankles@reddthat.com · 10 pts · 38d
From another user's comment earlier
So, owned by Isreal. I didn't know PIA was owned by the same and that's what I've been using. So maybe I'll look into AirVPN? Or IVPN is another one mentioned
Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com · -2 pts · 37d
AirVPN is based in Gibraltar and hence under British Law, meaning information courts and secret trawling surveillance court orders.
IVPN is Italian and Italy is a 14 eyes member. No idea how bad or not their surveillance legislation is, but it very unlikely they're as bad as the UK (which was even worse than the US according to the Snowden Revelations and none of that shit was walked back, quite the contrary).
MrShankles@reddthat.com · 1 pts · 37d
Do you use a VPN service, and if so which one? It's seemingly become a bigger and bigger issue... or maybe I'm just not informed enough about privacy/security; is it a trade off between morality and privacy? Because somehow that doesn't feel correct. Should I just choose the most secure and cheapest option, because it's all fucked anyway?
Like at this point, what would be the best option? My personal threat-model isn't that real, but still... what should I be comparing when looking for "the best option"?
Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 37d
Well, I use Mullvad at the moment and one of their founders being an extreme rightwing nutter is alarming.
That's why I started looking around and, lo and behold, it's alarming just how many supposedly privacy-conscientious VPN services are based in or owned by people or companies based in jurisdictions with insane surveillance laws.
I expect most privacy focused VPNs will help a bit with protecting your privacy vs private entities, especially if you rotate exit points. This also applies to things like copyright violation - lawyers just trying to discover who is the person sharing some torrent based on their IP address will find it extremely hard (and thus not worth their time) if that IP just leads to a no-logging VPN server address (as finding out who the person is would require a court order to watch it in real time in a different country, which they won't get for non-commercial piracy) by comparison to that IP just leading to a home user in an ISP as several countries have made laws were the ISPs have to deliver user information matching a provided IP address and time on suspicion of copyright violation to somebody claiming to represent the copyright owner.
If you've avoiding getting your activities tracked by dragnet surveillance states, I would say that in the West one should avoid like the plague any company based or registered in the US, UK or Israel (or any place falling under their laws, such as Gibraltar or Puerto Rico) as they all have special surveillance courts and the kind of surveillance laws that wouldn't be out of place in an Autocracy and which do apply to any company registered or based in those legal jurisdictions.
If you're trying to avoid The Law (as in, the normal Law, not the special surveillance courts and their mass dragnet surveillance orders), I have no idea. I suppose you probably would be better off using VPN inside a VPN crossing at least two jurisdictions without agreements for data sharing in court cases (so, for example, if one is an EU member country, the other should not be one).
MasterBlaster@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 38d
It's what I use, but I heard it was bought by a shady company a couple years ago. I'm afraid to check. It is or was one of the most secure and verifi3d provider around and resides outside the 5 and 14 eyes network.
quick_snail@feddit.nl · -4 pts · 38d
You're a dumbass. In general, if you see ads for it, it's bad.
Check AirVPN, IVPN, and/or cryptostorm
webkitten@piefed.social · -1 pts · 38d
solrize@lemmy.ml · -5 pts · 38d
Why do these kinds of products even exist? I've never used one but have thought maybe I should look into it. I sometimes proxy through a cheap or throwaway VPS, figuring small ipv6 allocations below the ISP level aren't tracked very carefully above that level. In some cases the VPS host just gives you a bunch of addresses out of a /64, when theoretically a /64 is the smallest allocatable chunk and it's what a single device is supposed to get.
matlag@sh.itjust.works · 10 pts · 38d
Because where I go on Internet is not the business of my ISP, and it's not data I want them to store and sell to whoever will pay for it? I am now behind a VPN 100% of the time.
Based on my virtual location, YT doesn't force me to connect to watch videos (in some parts of the world, they seem to do!), and I won't be stopped by age verification crap in my country.
solrize@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 38d
Your VPS provider and your ISP aren't the same thing. I'd trust my VPS provider way more than I'd trust the scammy VPN companies that I see advertised all over the place.
matlag@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 37d
If you're the sole user of your VPS, all the sites you visit can identify you based on your IP only. Behind a VPN, they have to rely on cookies, fingerprinting, etc. (of course assuming you don't just login...).
Some VPN suppliers have a no log policy and have been audited to confirm they had indeed no log.
Mullvad was audited multiple times and the audits confirmed no log and no information leak. They don't even store customers info: you have a customer number, and you'd better not lose it. Sure if you pay by credit card, they can trace you back.
They're transparent about issues they face (2 years ago they reported a weakness allowing websites to identify the same browser switching outgoing servers) and the fix they use.
So yes, they are one of the very very few services I trust.
VPS supplier are just as likely as any other company to sell, leak or disclose on request your information.
whatiswrongwithyou@lemmy.ml · 4 pts · 38d
For anonymity and privacy from the network provider.
Vps proxying can work for that, but there are a lot of gotchas to keep track of.
voxel@feddit.org · -5 pts · 38d
Very incompetent author, includes misinformation.
XLE@piefed.social · 2 pts · 38d
Is it really that bad? It is a so-called VPN service. I call it that all the time. And they accept anonymous funding through cryptocurrency. I'm not fluent in Swedish Chef, but all this information seems more than accurate enough for me to trust the rest of the article.
voxel@feddit.org · 2 pts · 38d
Yes, it doesn't take you much research to find out that it is impossible to achieve anonymity only through a normal VPN service. The technology doesn't allow for it.
Everyone who believes otherwise got deceived by cheap marketing lies from providers like NordVPN.
brucethemoose@lemmy.world · -7 pts · 38d
It's kinda an interesting platform. I wouldn't call it purely far right, they dip from many different buckets:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%96rebro_Party
Not that I agree with it or anything. That's some Nazi-level xenophobia in there.
But I can kinda see how a ultra-private VPN founder could be in it.
AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space · 14 pts · 38d
The “transferiat” thing sounds like the Nazi idea of “useless eaters”
trolololol@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 38d
You gotta put the blame somewhere, or people would realise the problem is the party itself
teslasaur@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 38d
So you just shift the blame? Ironic
lemmelemmy@feddit.org · -8 pts · 37d
They’ve been putting up quite provocative ads in London past year. Comparing UK to third-world countries. Like literally putting up names. I mean they’re not wrong but you’re not gonna get any customers if you take a piss on their nationality you know. People don’t get to chose where they born.
Guess that logic won’t apply when you’re from world’s most privileged country.
Ps. Not gonna lie, even from an objective perspective this is an awful ad. Lazy and pretentious. Something would a 20yr angry kid would come up with this tbh.
cy888@lemmy.world · -13 pts · 37d
Should a company owner's politics affect reception of their product?
Customers choice. Within limits, product is more important than the owners politics.
Remember, a good way to destroy a superior product (that you don't control) is to denigrate something not relevant so that users will change to a compromised product.
GB promoted Enigma in 3rd world countries after WW2 since it's compromise was only commonly known in the 70s.
While the NSA is believed to have improved the security of DES, they are believed to have compromised Clipper.
Microsoft was just caught putting in a back door into their disk encryption.
The USA spreads FUD over Chinese routers, CPU when it is already known to be selling compromised Intel&AMD CPUs and compromised Cisco routers. The more important question is whether leaking your data to the USA or to the PRC has greater personal risk.
DeltaZSK@kbin.earth · -41 pts · 38d
This changes nothing
onlinepersona@programming.dev · 16 pts · 38d
You weren't using Mullvad?
DeltaZSK@kbin.earth · 1 pts · 37d
I will continue to use Mullvad
onlinepersona@programming.dev · 3 pts · 37d
Nice, thanks. I can block you now.
DeltaZSK@kbin.earth · 1 pts · 36d
L take
Pattylay@lemmy.world · -17 pts · 38d
Ye man same
sergeiX@lemmy.world · -55 pts · 37d
W Mullvad L leftists