Interesting game, but they seemed to intentionally make it as anti-fun as possible. Assembling the car was cool. But, everything you had to do to get the car parts, keep yourself alive, etc. was pretty tedious.
Holy fuck this made me laugh my ass off.
(btw, if make any videos My Winter Car I'll be watching because that is an accurate description of my life at the moment.)
That was my recollection of it, but apparently times have changed. Seems like Fedora and Debian should be swapped then, I never thought of Debian as fancy, but it is reliable.
I wonder if the job requirements for that role are really strict, or really relaxed.
Like, "you must have 10+ years experience cycling, live in the Vatican, be a Catholic, and know CQC to a deadly degree"... or.... "be Nunzio's neighbours boy and be willing to wear a dress."
Arch is kinda more like looking at a catalogue of parts.
Endevour is the same catalogue of parts, but with a flier inserted with a "recommmended loadout" where you can just check some boxes and get whatever it was you wanted, but the doors there to sawzall the trunk off and attach a cargo box if you want.
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to asĀ a technical, is in fact, GNU/Technical, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plusĀ Technical.Ā
You likely had it 20+ years ago, especially in the mountains. The Hilux pickup is fairly indestructible. Top Gear did an episode where they tried to kill one (linked below in other comments) and couldn't. It's rather impressive. I've seen the same exact model rolling around Africa and the Balkans today. ISIS fighters were known for using them as platforms for large-caliber guns. It's all about basic utility, stability, Toyota parts are easy to swap out, and adaptability to anything you feel like bolting on to it.
C15 was probably white in 1986 and is now a mixture of dirt, moss, rust and soot. Inside, it smells an almost unbearable melange of engine oil, dust, ashtray, wet dog and crumbling pleather. Somehow it still runs perfectly, except for the radio.
I can't remember the name of it, but there's one type of inexpensive small truck that I see people wishing for in the US constantly. Very utilitarian and barebones function over form. That would be a good fit.
Ehhh, I think Debian should be like a 10-15 year old civic or something. You know an "ol' reliable" type. It isn't up to date and it's not flashy, but it works and it works well.
Mint would probably be like a 2 year older version but with a fresh coat of paint and a lifted suspension.
I dunno, my first thought for Bazzite after switching from Windows a couple of months ago was more like this:
And immutable distros in general would be like this:
Faster by far than getting stuck in Windows traffic and It Just Works(tm) to get you where you want to go, but it's more difficult to go off the beaten path.
My reason for the bullet train and subway in particular is the nature of being on tracks as well as avoiding traffic (Windows bloat in my use of the concept).
Great for the average user because they don't have to really understand any of the systems involved or anything, just pick a stop and off it goes, but if you try to go off the beaten path at all, you'll probably find yourself having to work around the immutable nature pretty quickly. You can't just go anywhere with it like you would a car.
There's a program that I had installed that for some stupid reason doesn't let you log out on the Linux version and it auto logins as well, so if you log into the wrong account like I did when I installed it, you have to delete the user data from it. In Bazzite, it turns out that you can't just go into the folder and do it manually, you have to use a specific application that comes with Bazzite to delete user data from an application. A minor annoyance, but I did have to go off the rails a little to solve the issue compared to how I would've handled it on Windows.
I'm unsure if this is satire, but you don't rebuild a NixOS system every time you boot or SSH into it or something. It's sort of like the Arch "assemble your own vehicle how you want" image except it allows you to do so on new hardware declaratively. Like having dotfiles for the entire operating system configuration that are processed by the OS itself. Also really nice for unattended remote installation with https://github.com/nix-community/nixos-anywhere
I love nixos, it's been my daily driver for the last 3 years for work and home.
A more accurate metaphor would be:
When modding the car, with a arch, Debian of most other distros you actually mod the car. If you want to change the seats you physically install new seats.
With nixos you don't intervene directly on the car, you change the blueprint of the car and let the robot reassemble the car according to the blueprint.
Yeah thatās true, itās more like changing the car builds a new car every time in case you want to go back to an old one (or eventually prune/gc and say good bye to the old cars lol)
More like the car changes parts around the user space. You still have the driver and baggage (files) intact inside the car.
Alternatively, you build a new car and teleport all of the inside of the car there, teleport the car to wherever the old one was and keep going from there.
I meam on boot it does do quite a lot of stuff and there are people who run nixos setups that basically erase everything and then relink the nix store to your root when you boot. Even tho i like nixos thats a bit too far for me. I use nixos like its an immutable distro where i build the image.
Not really. You're not at much risk of harming yourself with the tools, and if an attacker is already on your system able to execute arbitrary software, you're already pretty well pwned
Which isn't to say it doesn't present any risk, just that it's relatively negligible in a personal computing environment. In a corporate environment, you'd need strict controls on who can use those tools and when
I used it as a daily driver for the last couple years on one of my laptops
I like Debian and work in cybersecurity. I'd have to install all these tools anyway, so it made sense. Turns out OffSec doesn't bother testing persistent installs. The stability as absolutely atrocious. I run into so many issues because they change things like the audio manager and I end up with both trying to run in parallel
Most people still say you're not supposed to use it because of security issues. Those aren't a concern these days. Lack of upgrade stability is the real reason not to have a persistent install, especially on bare metal
Ok but the radio station change might cause my car to spontaneously combust so I should make a new car from scratch with my car factory just in case, that way I'll still have a car.
I like to think it's fitting for the analogy that with NixOS/Guix, you get access to the entire factory to build your car, since you pretty much have a framework at your disposal to build up your system how you want it.
Edit: should've scrolled a bit further, someone already beat me to it lol. Great minds think alike.
Debian is also one of the most secure distributions in terms of user control and security against vulnerabilities, since it is the same OS that runs most of the servers in the world - and therefore gets very quick and reliable security updates.
This comment made me realize I haven't installed thefuck on my most recent linux installation. I have evolved past the point of making common mistakes.
One of those meme distros like AmogOS or UwUntu that's technically usable for a few months but then the hobbyist who made it stops giving a fuck and abandons it
Those 60s classic cars, though iconic, relied on a very different planned lifespan compared to modern cars. It was much shorter than the cars of today.
A better analogy for Debian would probably be an older Honda Civic model. Itās older and lacks many flashy or hyper-modern features, but itās reliable, maintainable, and actively supported.
If Debian has to be something on four wheels it'll be a lorry. Something that does nothing fancy but absolutely essential and is doing alright thank you very much.
It's like a kit car. It comes with the chassis and engine all intact, technically street-legal. You just get to decide whether you want windshields and doors, which some people consider pretty obvious and too much of a hassle to pretend they're "optional"
Hey! Gears changed by jamming a galvanized square steel pole into the floor is WAY more optimal than having a gear stick. Reduces weight, I may change gears often, but it's not EVERY time.
(I do have the gear stick on anyways in case I forget how to use the steel pole properly, but that's not the point!)
i'd personally liken it more to one of those flat pack jeeps. with a little technical know-how you can get something decently barebones going, of course with ample opportunity for fun!!
kit cars do vary, and there are some that would fit this pretty well, but i'd say much of them are like linux from scratch if anything.
you get a list of parts and stuff, and some instructions on putting it together, but at the end of the day (realistically past that and into the early morning in my experience with LFS :3) the builder is much relied on for the actual customization and patching of everything together!
Interestingly, mint is what I daily drive as my distro and the car for it is what I prefer in terms of driving daily (I love me a hatchback).
However, Debian is a distro I would drive more often if it were more practical, and that car is my favorite ever that I wish I could have on a practical level
Newbie: Hi I just want a distro to go shopping and for family tasks.
Mechanic: You want a racing car. Lift the hood and I'll show you how to operate all the adjustments. Racing cars need lots of tuning and youll need wide tyres too.
Newbie: Can't I just drive to the shops?
Mechanic: But you need to learn under the hood first. That's what Linux is all about.
Newbie: there is also no room for shopping in this racing car.
Mechanic: there is if it's just text files. Don't bother with all that jpeg and binary bloat.
Newbie: You know, as much as I hate Windows, either I didn't need a mechanic, or got one who didn't insist open the hood to operate it.
I wonder what centOS would be like? Somthing out of commission, but remembered fondly even though it was anything but special or elegant. But it worked. And if not you could fix it easily. Maybe a trabant?
Guix is enthusiastic, principled, lean, very reliable, it is rolling release, completely defined and automatically built from source, but with cached binary standard packages. You have something like Python's virtual environments in a terminal/shell, but with any distro package, and you can go back to any old version.
You also have to pray that your wifi works if using the default libre kernel. I'd liken it to a VW Beetle with a V12 engine swapped in to get it to run
Mint looks about right, I rented a car much like that one and explored Greece from the south all the way to the northern mountains and loved every minute of it. Just like my last six or seven years of exclusive Linux use.
Use what makes you happy people, it's not a persona.
How would SuSE Tumpleweed in a VM on top of OpenSuSE Leap look? (That is a system which is a very stable base (a bit like Debian) but with a very current rolling release edition on top of it - which is a great solution for combining productivity (shit just works) with a highly actual development environment.)
With gnome feeling dated in terms of design, Ubuntu has that early Passat energy imo lmao. Very round and generic, will probably get you where you want to go but the ride will be boring.
I made the correct choice. I want boring. That's the whole reason I left Windows. Printer drivers constantly failing, WiFi drivers somehow, constant power drain and overheating while my laptop was asleep and in my bookbag.
Same. As for distro, for me personally, it should be designed to be usable with one hand, because I crashed and broke my elbow.
For bike users in general though, it should be something ...bespoke.
For non-ebike cyclists I think an analog computer would be appropriate. Wait, do those have an OS? I guess it would be a manual system but I gotta check the manual manual to be sure.
Thats a cool sentiment but dont downvote the post because of that. That is the exact behaviour preventing many foss projects from becoming mainstream. Instead of disabling eachother if you had just commented this it wouldve been a really cool bit of constructive criticism. Still also it is just a meme.
I'm not sure the metaphor works, I'm the only person who uses my computer, I don't go down to the computer station and wait for someone to drive the public computer along.
A pc is much more like a car than a train; it is something you own and you are responsible for. You get to choose the operating system and the software that is installed, you get to choose the colour of the box.
Linux isn't public transport, it's a factory that lets anyone come and help build a car. If you have a better idea for a steering wheel, or think that there's a problem with the engine you can fix, Linux lets you into the factory to make those changes.
According to ChatGPT the Mint car is a Chevy Spark. And now I am thinking I should be driving a Chevy Spark if it is anywhere near as reliable and easy to use as Linux Mint.
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j4yc33@piefed.social · 141 pts · 168d
Linux From Scratch
Skullgrid@lemmy.world · 34 pts · 168d
the finnish origins of both makes it extra good
umbrella@lemmy.ml · 9 pts · 168d
merc@sh.itjust.works · 8 pts · 168d
Interesting game, but they seemed to intentionally make it as anti-fun as possible. Assembling the car was cool. But, everything you had to do to get the car parts, keep yourself alive, etc. was pretty tedious.
JATtho@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 168d
Holy fuck this made me laugh my ass off. (btw, if make any videos My Winter Car I'll be watching because that is an accurate description of my life at the moment.)
alekwithak@lemmy.world · 110 pts · 168d
Fedora
Proxmox?
Which would make this ESXI?
Especially since it's on its way out.
Digit@lemmy.wtf · 13 pts · 168d
BedrockLinux?
alekwithak@lemmy.world · 26 pts · 168d
???
Or probably more accurately one of these BYOVs:
Digit@lemmy.wtf · 4 pts · 168d
I think you do not know what BedrockLinux is.
alekwithak@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 168d
Digit@lemmy.wtf · 10 pts · 168d
Still wrong bedrock.
Next you'll be showing me a block of
alekwithak@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 168d
Shit, you're right!
corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca · 5 pts · 168d
You confused fedora with RHEL (before 6)
alekwithak@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 168d
No, I'm just old š¢
Or maybe yes, I'm just old idk š
Zwiebel@feddit.org · 1 pts · 168d
I'm guessing Fedora is boring but reliable?
alekwithak@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 168d
That was my recollection of it, but apparently times have changed. Seems like Fedora and Debian should be swapped then, I never thought of Debian as fancy, but it is reliable.
Taldan@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 168d
Fedora is the cutting edge consumer release of RedHat, so I wouldn't call it either boring or reliable
Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 89 pts · 167d
TempleOS.
tetris11@feddit.uk · 5 pts · 167d
I wonder if the job requirements for that role are really strict, or really relaxed.
Like, "you must have 10+ years experience cycling, live in the Vatican, be a Catholic, and know CQC to a deadly degree"... or.... "be Nunzio's neighbours boy and be willing to wear a dress."
greyscale@lemmy.sdf.org · 82 pts · 168d
Arch is kinda more like looking at a catalogue of parts.
Endevour is the same catalogue of parts, but with a flier inserted with a "recommmended loadout" where you can just check some boxes and get whatever it was you wanted, but the doors there to sawzall the trunk off and attach a cargo box if you want.
Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works · 74 pts · 168d
Gentoo is just a pile of steel and aluminum beams, a few drums of oil, a cow, and a note that reads "Good luck."
notthebees@reddthat.com · 41 pts · 168d
That's lfs. Gentoo is a kit car like the Blakley Bearcat.
Edit: I'm gonna go read Gary Paulsen books now
greyscale@lemmy.sdf.org · 4 pts · 168d
I was just about to write Linux From Scratch
abbiistabbii@piefed.blahaj.zone · 11 pts · 168d
In my experience, Arch (with pacman at least) is like clipping lego bricks together. Like "Oh, a wanna do this? Best get that".
greyscale@lemmy.sdf.org · 3 pts · 168d
Yeah, I moved over from Ubuntu after desnapping my system got too irritating.
Its legobricky indeed
abbiistabbii@piefed.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 167d
It's kinda fun in that sense, like "oh I wanna try this, lemmie see if it's in the repos and it is" and then it's a four word command at most.
regenwetter@piefed.social · 73 pts · 168d
Debian should be a small truck (i.e. one that's actually used for cargo, not as a penis prosthetic), and the bottom right is clearly Gentoo!
negativenull@piefed.world · 97 pts · 168d
1995 Toyota Hilux
teft@piefed.social · 22 pts · 168d
All i see is a technical waiting to be born.
tensorpudding@lemmy.world · 36 pts · 168d
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to asĀ a technical, is in fact, GNU/Technical, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plusĀ Technical.Ā
negativenull@piefed.world · 14 pts · 168d
negativenull@piefed.world · 14 pts · 168d
That fits the vibe of Debian very well!
hansolo@lemmy.today · 16 pts · 168d
No one realizes how perfect of a choice this actually is.
negativenull@piefed.world · 29 pts · 168d
hansolo@lemmy.today · 11 pts · 168d
Best episode they ever did.
tal@lemmy.today · 9 pts · 167d
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnWKz7Cthkk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTPnIpjodA8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFnVZXQD5_k
negativenull@piefed.world · 2 pts · 168d
Agreed
HaraldvonBlauzahn@feddit.org · 2 pts · 166d
Can you explain why? I am from Germany ... we don't have that kind of pickup.
hansolo@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 166d
You likely had it 20+ years ago, especially in the mountains. The Hilux pickup is fairly indestructible. Top Gear did an episode where they tried to kill one (linked below in other comments) and couldn't. It's rather impressive. I've seen the same exact model rolling around Africa and the Balkans today. ISIS fighters were known for using them as platforms for large-caliber guns. It's all about basic utility, stability, Toyota parts are easy to swap out, and adaptability to anything you feel like bolting on to it.
ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net · 15 pts · 168d
Please...
quediuspayu@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 168d
For some reason I associate the colour red to the Renault Express. C15 is off white.
Wfh@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 168d
C15 was probably white in 1986 and is now a mixture of dirt, moss, rust and soot. Inside, it smells an almost unbearable melange of engine oil, dust, ashtray, wet dog and crumbling pleather. Somehow it still runs perfectly, except for the radio.
MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 168d
sepi@piefed.social · 4 pts · 168d
Perfection. I have moved with one of these.
Digit@lemmy.wtf · 3 pts · 168d
devuan
The_Picard_Maneuver@piefed.world · 21 pts · 168d
I can't remember the name of it, but there's one type of inexpensive small truck that I see people wishing for in the US constantly. Very utilitarian and barebones function over form. That would be a good fit.
pennomi@lemmy.world · 55 pts · 168d
The_Picard_Maneuver@piefed.world · 14 pts · 168d
That's the one!
RickyRigatoni@piefed.zip · 12 pts · 168d
These kinds of trucks are called kei trucks.
ALoafOfBread@lemmy.ml · 10 pts · 168d
It's a type of kei car - a kei truck
Digit@lemmy.wtf · 1 pts · 168d
Alpine?
KazuyaDarklight@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 168d
Kei Truck
drcobaltjedi@programming.dev · 7 pts · 168d
Ehhh, I think Debian should be like a 10-15 year old civic or something. You know an "ol' reliable" type. It isn't up to date and it's not flashy, but it works and it works well.
Mint would probably be like a 2 year older version but with a fresh coat of paint and a lifted suspension.
onehundredsixtynine@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 168d
merc@sh.itjust.works · 54 pts · 168d
Bazzite:
SteamOS:
EtherWhack@lemmy.world · 38 pts · 168d
Android:
merc@sh.itjust.works · 33 pts · 168d
Typically it's more:
EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 166d
I dunno, my first thought for Bazzite after switching from Windows a couple of months ago was more like this:
And immutable distros in general would be like this:
Faster by far than getting stuck in Windows traffic and It Just Works(tm) to get you where you want to go, but it's more difficult to go off the beaten path.
merc@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 166d
I'm a huge fan of immutable distros, but I'm not sure they're mass transit.
Maybe:
It gets you where you want to go, but you don't have to handle the toil of dealing with traffic.
EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 165d
My reason for the bullet train and subway in particular is the nature of being on tracks as well as avoiding traffic (Windows bloat in my use of the concept).
Great for the average user because they don't have to really understand any of the systems involved or anything, just pick a stop and off it goes, but if you try to go off the beaten path at all, you'll probably find yourself having to work around the immutable nature pretty quickly. You can't just go anywhere with it like you would a car.
There's a program that I had installed that for some stupid reason doesn't let you log out on the Linux version and it auto logins as well, so if you log into the wrong account like I did when I installed it, you have to delete the user data from it. In Bazzite, it turns out that you can't just go into the folder and do it manually, you have to use a specific application that comes with Bazzite to delete user data from an application. A minor annoyance, but I did have to go off the rails a little to solve the issue compared to how I would've handled it on Windows.
kautau@lemmy.world · 52 pts · 168d
NixOS:
BastingChemina@slrpnk.net · 18 pts · 168d
Who wouldn't want to have their car assembled automatically
beton scratchfrom scratch each time they need it ?kautau@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 167d
I'm unsure if this is satire, but you don't rebuild a NixOS system every time you boot or SSH into it or something. It's sort of like the Arch "assemble your own vehicle how you want" image except it allows you to do so on new hardware declaratively. Like having dotfiles for the entire operating system configuration that are processed by the OS itself. Also really nice for unattended remote installation with https://github.com/nix-community/nixos-anywhere
BastingChemina@slrpnk.net · 5 pts · 167d
I love nixos, it's been my daily driver for the last 3 years for work and home.
A more accurate metaphor would be:
kautau@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 167d
Yeah thatās true, itās more like changing the car builds a new car every time in case you want to go back to an old one (or eventually prune/gc and say good bye to the old cars lol)
Lifter@discuss.tchncs.de · 2 pts · 167d
More like the car changes parts around the user space. You still have the driver and baggage (files) intact inside the car.
Alternatively, you build a new car and teleport all of the inside of the car there, teleport the car to wherever the old one was and keep going from there.
AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 167d
I meam on boot it does do quite a lot of stuff and there are people who run nixos setups that basically erase everything and then relink the nix store to your root when you boot. Even tho i like nixos thats a bit too far for me. I use nixos like its an immutable distro where i build the image.
MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 168d
Evil_Shrubbery@thelemmy.club · 44 pts · 168d
openSUSE
Tiny Core Linux(/Alpine/Void/etc)
OpenWrt
mech@feddit.org · 41 pts · 168d
Slackware:
MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip · 33 pts · 168d
Then this is Windows
10/11:Btw, it got stuck in Antarctica.
Buddahriffic@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 168d
I'd also accept that car Homer designed. Or a cyber truck.
merc@sh.itjust.works · 11 pts · 167d
Windows:
Jyek@sh.itjust.works · 11 pts · 168d
NGL, I think this is really freaking cool...
flameleaf@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 168d
Too bad it runs Windows (by default)
IratePirate@feddit.org · 10 pts · 167d
MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 166d
Ok, right, mine is 7 instead.
IratePirate@feddit.org · 2 pts · 166d
Vista, more likely. Win 7 wasn't a chonky one (for the hardware of the time).
MoffKalast@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 168d
That's not Windows, that's Oracle Solaris right there.
87Six@lemmy.zip · 7 pts · 167d
Do not utter the cursed one's name in vain!
MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 167d
TIL
HereIAm@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 167d
What the hell, that thing Is real!? I thought those were just some concept drawings like you get for future space craft from the 70's.
rishado@lemmy.world · 31 pts · 168d
Why is kali always in these memes? Does anyone actually use it?
AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world · 36 pts · 168d
You're not supposed to, which means that lots of people probably do.
hoshikarakitaridia@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 168d
Yes and yes.
It's a very easy way to have all the pen testing software you want when you wanna feel like a hacker.
tourist@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 168d
Sounds stressful.
Is it not like having a stockpile of live weapons where you have to keep checking if the safeties are on?
Taldan@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 168d
Not really. You're not at much risk of harming yourself with the tools, and if an attacker is already on your system able to execute arbitrary software, you're already pretty well pwned
Which isn't to say it doesn't present any risk, just that it's relatively negligible in a personal computing environment. In a corporate environment, you'd need strict controls on who can use those tools and when
Taldan@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 168d
I used it as a daily driver for the last couple years on one of my laptops
I like Debian and work in cybersecurity. I'd have to install all these tools anyway, so it made sense. Turns out OffSec doesn't bother testing persistent installs. The stability as absolutely atrocious. I run into so many issues because they change things like the audio manager and I end up with both trying to run in parallel
Most people still say you're not supposed to use it because of security issues. Those aren't a concern these days. Lack of upgrade stability is the real reason not to have a persistent install, especially on bare metal
Ooops@feddit.org · 3 pts · 168d
As many as are driving the correspondig vehicle legally on streets.
littleomid@feddit.org · 1 pts · 164d
Only as image in a hypervisor for pentesting.
captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works · 30 pts · 168d
Damn Small Linux:
MonkeMischief@lemmy.today · 4 pts · 168d
I was expecting a pair of flip flops. :)
EDIT: oo, maybe one of those motor-unicycles!
captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 167d
Is there a motorized roller skate?
a14o@feddit.org · 29 pts · 168d
Zangoose@lemmy.world · 37 pts · 168d
Nah NixOS is a picture of a factory automatically making cars
hamFoilHat@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 168d
"I want to change the radio station, get me a new car!"
Zangoose@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 168d
Ok but the radio station change might cause my car to spontaneously combust so I should make a new car from scratch with my car factory just in case, that way I'll still have a car.
Never change, NixOS
eah@programming.dev · 1 pts · 166d
You wouldn't download a new car each time you want to download a new car.
Prunebutt@slrpnk.net · 5 pts · 168d
That's actually a realy good comparison!
w3ird_sloth@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 168d
3D printing cars.
RustyNova@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 168d
More exactly, the typewriter used to send commands to the car factory. Steampunk style
Arkhive@piefed.blahaj.zone · 6 pts · 168d
The Delorian works too, but my brain jumped to something like thisā¦
āCar as codeā felt appropriate lol
juipeltje@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 168d
I like to think it's fitting for the analogy that with NixOS/Guix, you get access to the entire factory to build your car, since you pretty much have a framework at your disposal to build up your system how you want it.
Edit: should've scrolled a bit further, someone already beat me to it lol. Great minds think alike.
CADmonkey@lemmy.world · 22 pts · 168d
Mint should be a Mitsubishi Mirage. People make fun of it, sure, but it keeps working anyway.
33550336@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 168d
Mint is best for my purposes. Making fun from it is silly
herseycokguzelolacak@lemmy.ml · 21 pts · 167d
Debian must be the 1999 Toyota Corolla
HaraldvonBlauzahn@feddit.org · 8 pts · 167d
Debian is also one of the most secure distributions in terms of user control and security against vulnerabilities, since it is the same OS that runs most of the servers in the world - and therefore gets very quick and reliable security updates.
herseycokguzelolacak@lemmy.ml · 4 pts · 166d
which is the joke.
BartyDeCanter@lemmy.sdf.org · 4 pts · 166d
I daily drive Debian on a couple of thirteen year old laptops. This is exactly right and Iām damn happy about it.
presoak@lazysoci.al · 3 pts · 166d
Me too. Rock solid, sane and lightning.
Agent641@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 167d
Drive -fwd
Sudo drive -fwd
Drive -left
Drive -stop
Drive -brake
Sudp drive -brake
Udo drive -brake
Sudo dribe -brake
F U C K
DragonOracleIX@lemmy.ml · 5 pts · 167d
This comment made me realize I haven't installed thefuck on my most recent linux installation. I have evolved past the point of making common mistakes.
southsamurai@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 167d
What's thefuck?
mexicancartel@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 11 pts · 167d
Terminal autocorrect when you say 'fuck' https://github.com/nvbn/thefuck
MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip · 19 pts · 168d
Who's this?
Omgpwnies@lemmy.world · 35 pts · 168d
MacOS
BagOfHeavyStones@piefed.social · 11 pts · 168d
Could also be Windows 3.1 with the hot dog theme.
Omgpwnies@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 167d
Windows 3.1 was peak Windows and I will engage in fisticuffs with anyone who disagrees.
m0stlyharmless@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 167d
Windows 3.1 was very usable and intuitive.
I used to run it in emulation on an iPad.
Bluewing@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 166d
3.11 you mean.
Nyadia@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 11 pts · 167d
One of those meme distros like AmogOS or UwUntu that's technically usable for a few months but then the hobbyist who made it stops giving a fuck and abandons it
rustydrd@sh.itjust.works · 8 pts · 168d
Pop OS
captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works · 7 pts · 168d
Looks like Google livery so I'm going with ChromeOS.
slothrop@lemmy.ca · 18 pts · 168d
J.R. 'BoB' Dobbs uses Slackware:
Tho' sometimes he'll drive:
zr0@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 17 pts · 168d
If Arch is this, what is Gentoo? An IKEA car?
unbuckled_easily933@lemmy.ml · 33 pts · 168d
Just the schematics
Fedizen@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 168d
And the shop drawings for all the parts.
gra5per@sh.itjust.works · 14 pts · 168d
Gentoo makes you compile the raw materials yourself
faintwhenfree@lemmus.org · 15 pts · 168d
Straight to the mines.
MrChewy@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 167d
RAM prices ain't gonna drop on their own!
zr0@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 168d
True. Should be a mountain of raw materials
Techlos@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 10 pts · 167d
CAD files and a BOM.
ccunix@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 167d
Nah, that's Linux from Scratch.
Gentoo is a Caterham 7
fenrasulfr@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 168d
What is Linux from scratch than?
MrChewy@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 167d
Papers and blueprints on how to make every part
TrickDacy@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 167d
Then*
dismay3915@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 166d
Debian is more like a honda accord or toyota prius.
Reliable, and only real car guys know they're cool.
Sir_Simon_Spamalot@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 166d
Civic, then, or Corolla
dismay3915@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 166d
Civic, prius, yaris, corolla, accord (basically 90% f japanese cars) can be fit in this category
varyingExpertise@feddit.org · 4 pts · 166d
Also the development department lets you borrow the current new generation prototype if you want and suddenly it's all current tech.
m0stlyharmless@lemmy.zip · 14 pts · 167d
Those 60s classic cars, though iconic, relied on a very different planned lifespan compared to modern cars. It was much shorter than the cars of today.
A better analogy for Debian would probably be an older Honda Civic model. Itās older and lacks many flashy or hyper-modern features, but itās reliable, maintainable, and actively supported.
MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip · 14 pts · 168d
Alpine
khapyman@sopuli.xyz · 13 pts · 168d
If Debian has to be something on four wheels it'll be a lorry. Something that does nothing fancy but absolutely essential and is doing alright thank you very much.
Omgpwnies@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 168d
If it has to be a sedan-type vehicle, then it's 100% a Toyota Corolla - boring AF, but bulletproof and everyone has parts for it.
SirActionSack@aussie.zone · 7 pts · 168d
Yeah whatever Debian is it definitely has a roof and no fins out of the box.
some_kind_of_guy@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 167d
2009 Toyota Tacoma, regular cab, 5 speed manual with crank windows
then_three_more@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 168d
Evil_Shrubbery@thelemmy.club · 3 pts · 168d
The perfect vehicle from a more civilised foss future.
umbrella@lemmy.ml · 12 pts · 168d
TrickDacy@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 167d
I wouldn't say that arch is nearly like that. Maybe you have to put on the doors and hood yourself or something maybe...
Donkter@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 167d
It's like a kit car. It comes with the chassis and engine all intact, technically street-legal. You just get to decide whether you want windshields and doors, which some people consider pretty obvious and too much of a hassle to pretend they're "optional"
MrChewy@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 167d
Hey! Gears changed by jamming a galvanized square steel pole into the floor is WAY more optimal than having a gear stick. Reduces weight, I may change gears often, but it's not EVERY time.
(I do have the gear stick on anyways in case I forget how to use the steel pole properly, but that's not the point!)
kivihiili@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 167d
i'd personally liken it more to one of those flat pack jeeps. with a little technical know-how you can get something decently barebones going, of course with ample opportunity for fun!!
kit cars do vary, and there are some that would fit this pretty well, but i'd say much of them are like linux from scratch if anything.
you get a list of parts and stuff, and some instructions on putting it together, but at the end of the day (realistically past that and into the early morning in my experience with LFS :3) the builder is much relied on for the actual customization and patching of everything together!
AnthropomorphicCat@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 168d
Gentoo is like "here are the instructions about how to machine every little piece you'll need. Hope you have a good lathe!"
janus2@lemmy.zip · 9 pts · 167d
there's a joke about drivers in here somewhere
cv_octavio@piefed.ca · 9 pts · 168d
Flax_vert@feddit.uk · 9 pts · 168d
Is that not LFS?
southsamurai@sh.itjust.works · 8 pts · 167d
Interestingly, mint is what I daily drive as my distro and the car for it is what I prefer in terms of driving daily (I love me a hatchback).
However, Debian is a distro I would drive more often if it were more practical, and that car is my favorite ever that I wish I could have on a practical level
ian@feddit.uk · 8 pts · 166d
Newbie: Hi I just want a distro to go shopping and for family tasks.
Mechanic: You want a racing car. Lift the hood and I'll show you how to operate all the adjustments. Racing cars need lots of tuning and youll need wide tyres too.
Newbie: Can't I just drive to the shops?
Mechanic: But you need to learn under the hood first. That's what Linux is all about.
Newbie: there is also no room for shopping in this racing car.
Mechanic: there is if it's just text files. Don't bother with all that jpeg and binary bloat.
Newbie: You know, as much as I hate Windows, either I didn't need a mechanic, or got one who didn't insist open the hood to operate it.
presoak@lazysoci.al · 3 pts · 165d
I installed Debian Linux for several computer-illiterate old ladies. They never had to look under the hood. They are very happy with it.
ian@feddit.uk · 1 pts · 165d
Yes. They shouldn't need to. Sadly some think everyone should.
seggturkasz@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 167d
I wonder what centOS would be like? Somthing out of commission, but remembered fondly even though it was anything but special or elegant. But it worked. And if not you could fix it easily. Maybe a trabant?
kamen@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 167d
And if not, you could leave it with the rest of the paper for recycling.
/s
ccunix@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 167d
It need to be something elegant and powerful, but not unfortunately not perfect; all while still being available to most people. A Rover SD1 perhaps:
HaraldvonBlauzahn@feddit.org · 6 pts · 167d
Which one is GNU Guix?
Guix is enthusiastic, principled, lean, very reliable, it is rolling release, completely defined and automatically built from source, but with cached binary standard packages. You have something like Python's virtual environments in a terminal/shell, but with any distro package, and you can go back to any old version.
tetris11@feddit.uk · 5 pts · 167d
You also have to pray that your wifi works if using the default libre kernel. I'd liken it to a VW Beetle with a V12 engine swapped in to get it to run
SapphironZA@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 168d
To be fair, Ubuntu is using older kernels than Debian these days. Ubuntu has become the old man of distro's
scttgard@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 167d
Mint looks about right, I rented a car much like that one and explored Greece from the south all the way to the northern mountains and loved every minute of it. Just like my last six or seven years of exclusive Linux use.
Use what makes you happy people, it's not a persona.
Cellari@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 166d
Kind of you to assume Arch Linux is going to tell you what the outcome is going to look like :D
cows_are_underrated@feddit.org · 6 pts · 167d
LFS is just a dew blocks of plastic, iron, copper and the rest of the raw materials.
cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca · 5 pts · 167d
This makes arch look pretty good.
frank@lemmy.fraxoweb.com · 5 pts · 167d
Damn, I might need to hop to Kali
fenrasulfr@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 168d
I viewed more as an Toyota.
Fredselfish@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 168d
Being use debian and enjoying it so far.
michael_palmer@lemmy.sdf.org · 4 pts · 166d
Gentoo:
ricdeh@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 166d
More like LFS
TomMasz@piefed.social · 4 pts · 168d
Debian: Makes you look cool until you hit something and get thrown out and die.
RedIce25@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 168d
What would CachyOS be?
TheHotze@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 167d
Nascar. They removed a bunch of unnecessary stuff to make car go fast.
Taldan@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 168d
It's an Arch distro. Talk half the parts there, throw them in the car, then put the other half in a bag of spare parts and you have Cachy
pewgar_seemsimandroid@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 167d
what car would omarchy be? and what car would amogOS be?
sudoer777@lemmy.ml · 6 pts · 166d
HaraldvonBlauzahn@feddit.org · 3 pts · 167d
How would SuSE Tumpleweed in a VM on top of OpenSuSE Leap look? (That is a system which is a very stable base (a bit like Debian) but with a very current rolling release edition on top of it - which is a great solution for combining productivity (shit just works) with a highly actual development environment.)
Bullerfar@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 166d
openSUSE would be a family SUV Porche
HaraldvonBlauzahn@feddit.org · 2 pts · 166d
Do you have a picture?
Yeah I think it is a bit optimized for comfort.
possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 168d
My question is why the archlinux oci image is so massive. Isn't arch support to be minimal
kivihiili@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 167d
and they are each all awesome in their own right :)
HaraldvonBlauzahn@feddit.org · 3 pts · 166d
I want that one:
How is the distro called?
Hiro8811@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 164d
That's ubuntu
fulgidus@feddit.it · 3 pts · 166d
Mor like gentoo or lfs... Arch nowadays is foolproof
damnthefilibuster@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 168d
Whatās Ubuntu? A Tesla?
MoffKalast@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 168d
With gnome feeling dated in terms of design, Ubuntu has that early Passat energy imo lmao. Very round and generic, will probably get you where you want to go but the ride will be boring.
Zwiebel@feddit.org · 5 pts · 168d
Bro round is literally the current trend. Add some glass effect and you got mac os design
LincolnsDogFido@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 167d
I made the correct choice. I want boring. That's the whole reason I left Windows. Printer drivers constantly failing, WiFi drivers somehow, constant power drain and overheating while my laptop was asleep and in my bookbag.
EtherWhack@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 168d
Then I can guess kubuntu would be a GTI?
Evil_Shrubbery@thelemmy.club · 1 pts · 168d
Lubuntu a Scirocco/Corrado/RS1?
BeardedGingerWonder@feddit.uk · 2 pts · 167d
Jesus fuck I feel attacked rn
herseycokguzelolacak@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 167d
where's gentoo?
IratePirate@feddit.org · 10 pts · 167d
Still compiling.
Una@europe.pub · 2 pts · 168d
Does LFS mean you start assembling a car from big bang?
gnutrino@programming.dev · 4 pts · 168d
lemmywinksthegerbilking@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 164d
hl2 car?
timestatic@feddit.org · 2 pts · 166d
Now we're just missing Gentoo and Linux From Scratch
collapse_already@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 166d
My eleven year old laptop is running Kubuntu. I think it might be a Camry (absent the insanely dominant popularity).
devfuuu@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 168d
And it is amazing btw!
festnt@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 168d
gentoo is just a bunch of metal
MrScottyTay@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 166d
Makes sense why I like arch then because I dream of being able to have the time and money to build a car
Asfalttikyntaja@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 166d
You wouldnāt download a car.
ArchBtw@ani.social · 1 pts · 168d
If you're not compiling your own kernel are you really running Arch?
lattrommi@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 168d
but I already have an ebike, I don't need a car
Korhaka@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 166d
I have a regular bike because it is even cheaper to run than an ebike. What distro should we use?
Untaxed, unregistered, unlicensed, uninsured. Do all the maintenance myself.
lattrommi@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 165d
Same. As for distro, for me personally, it should be designed to be usable with one hand, because I crashed and broke my elbow.
For bike users in general though, it should be something ...bespoke.
For non-ebike cyclists I think an analog computer would be appropriate. Wait, do those have an OS? I guess it would be a manual system but I gotta check the manual manual to be sure.
TheSeveralJourneysOfReemus@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 167d
poinck@lemmy.world · -3 pts · 167d
AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip · 8 pts · 167d
Thats a cool sentiment but dont downvote the post because of that. That is the exact behaviour preventing many foss projects from becoming mainstream. Instead of disabling eachother if you had just commented this it wouldve been a really cool bit of constructive criticism. Still also it is just a meme.
scholar@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 167d
I'm not sure the metaphor works, I'm the only person who uses my computer, I don't go down to the computer station and wait for someone to drive the public computer along.
A pc is much more like a car than a train; it is something you own and you are responsible for. You get to choose the operating system and the software that is installed, you get to choose the colour of the box.
Linux isn't public transport, it's a factory that lets anyone come and help build a car. If you have a better idea for a steering wheel, or think that there's a problem with the engine you can fix, Linux lets you into the factory to make those changes.
xylogx@lemmy.world · -3 pts · 168d
According to ChatGPT the Mint car is a Chevy Spark. And now I am thinking I should be driving a Chevy Spark if it is anywhere near as reliable and easy to use as Linux Mint.
kerrigan778@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 18 pts · 168d
I cannot stress enough how little I care what ChatGPT says about linux
Anarki_@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 7 pts · 168d
Sloperators promoting clanker "opinions" be like