The relaxed position of mammalian eyelids leaves them open. Muscles must contract for the eyes to be shut. Dead creatures cannot contract their muscles so their eyes remain open after they die.
You cannot shut their eyes for them by closing their eyes with your hand. Morticians place contacts in cadaver's eyes while preparing the body for a wake. Those contacts grip the inside of the eyelids so that they remain closed.
This is why some cultures have funerary traditions in which objects are placed over the eyes.
TL;DR: you and your loved ones won't close their eyes when they die.
Like when you're at the bank and a bank robber shoots a bunch of people and then you jump out from cover and start covering all the corpses eyes super fast.
Loudness of gunshots. Every action hero would be deaf.
Archers being told to "hold". Nobody's holding a +100lbs warbow.
Sprinklers. In the vast majority of cases they react to heat - not smoke. They only go off individually rather than all at once and the water inside the pipes is black ink-like rust water sludge, not clear tap water.
Also another plumbing related: you don't need a huge wrench under the sink and drains are not pressurized so there's no water spraying anywhere when you mess with the p-trap.
as firing didn't exist until gunpowder, the instruction wouldn't make sense. Like telling a soldier now to "activate the positronic tacyons!" instead of "fire"
I like watching suspect interviews, all the cops follow the same script, if people would just shut up and ask for the lawyer far fewer crimes would be solved.
I tell my kids to treat cops like vampires, never let them in the house and sticking to your rights is garlic to them.
Cops are your friend (remember we're talking to children here) up until the moment you are accused of a crime. If they think you're involved in something, stop talking and ask for a lawyer!
Nah, cops are not your friend, I'm a 50 something white male, I have called the cops 3 times in my life.
When I was 15 I found a guitar in the woods, cop did everything he could to pin the theft on me, even searched my house.
Late 30s some kid stole my sons bike, we knew who did it but the cops just said well we didn't see it happen so we can't do anything.
At 50 a friend attempted suicide, I called an ambulance, cops got there first, walked right past my unconscious friend and started poking around the house.
I raised my kids to stay out of trouble and stay away from cops.
Nah you're probably not wrong haha. I'm sure there are good examples. But for the most part all I hear and watch is absolutely terrible detective and police work.
Years back, I remember watching the Wargames scene where the computer was trying to "guess a passcode". Which it was doing remotely. Determining one digit at a time.
I said, "This is completely ridiculous. That's not how any kind of real world authentication system works." Dramatic, yes. Realistic? No, never happen.
Some years later, there was a severe remote exploit for the filesharing feature for Windows 95 and 98 systems. Not only had the Microsoft person who designed the thing stored the password to a share in plaintext instead of hashing it, which would have precluded this from working, but there was also a bug where the server's authentication system could be sent a malformed message and only validated as many bytes of the password as had been specified in the authentication message. Someone promptly went out and wrote an exploit to brute-force access to a share by just asking it to only validate the first byte, try each, get in in at most 256 tries. I look at that and say "yeah, but it also exposes the next byte of the password itself, and those probably persist even after the thing is patched, not to mention the potential for credentials reuse for other things". I go modify Samba's smbclient to iterate through the thing, extract the password one byte at a time. I message a buddy who has a Windows 98 machine on the network, "hey, can I break into your machine for a sec?" He comes up "Uh, okay. What are you up to, tal?"
I fire it up and we're sitting there watching his password be printed on my Linux box's screen, one letter at a time. I said, "This is exactly like that scene in Wargames that I said could never, ever happen in real life, was just Hollywood. Guess that showed me." He says, "fucking Microsoft".
That's the gold standard for hacking, by far. But this also deserves a mention for pushing the bounds of technology, way ahead of it's time: https://youtu.be/fQGbXmkSArs
There's a common theme in movies --- since you can only hear one side of a phone conversation --- of a character repeating a lot of what the other person said for the audience's benefit. I've seen some example conversations written out showing both sides that show how ludicrous such a conversation would have to be.
"I don't know who you are. I don't know what you want. If you are looking for ransom, I can tell you I don't have money. But what I do have are a very particular set of skills, skills I have acquired over a very long career. Skills that make me a nightmare for people like you. If you let my daughter go now, that'll be the end of it. I will not look for you, I will not pursue you. But if you don't, I will look for you, I will find you, and I will kill you." - MC
"Uhh, I'm just calling about your extended car warranty..." - poor bastard
Most dishonest about? Hard to say, since movies are dishonest about virtually everything. (As escapism, that's what we want.) But a big one that comes to mind is proceedings in courts of law.
In real life, a court case is excruciatingly procedural, spread out over months of correspondence and brief hearings, and the vast majority of them never go to trial. And for the few that do go to trial, there are never any intense, witness-stand confrontations, or inspiring speechifying by the plaintiff or defendant. No attorneys shouting, "OBJECTION!", across the room.
I know of two friends of a friend, one of whom signed a reverse mortgage on his house with some scammers who promised that he could live the rest of his life there, but then who turned around and filed to evict him. Clearly influenced by dramatic courtroom scenes in TV and movies, he seemed to think that "court" meant that he would be able to show up and give the judge a moving soliloquy about being a righteous, disabled veteran, and prevail. The judge did his level best to help the guy out by almost insisting on appointing a guardian ad litem (free attorney!), but he refused. (Sadly, he died before it went to trial, and the scammers kept the house.)
The other one got sued by a credit card company over a charge that was obviously bogus (i.e. from a swimming pool contractor in eastern Europe, which is just who you'd call in the midwestern U.S.), but they had the same mental script: Show up in the courtroom and speechify to the judge. They didn't even respond to the summons and complaint, and the company won by default judgement.
I sat on the jury for a murder trial last year (maybe 2). It was impressive how inept both the defence and prosecution seemed and how flat out sloppy it all felt.
The story Foxfire, Esq on Royal Road is written by a lawyer, and goes into all kinds of detail about the processes they go through, and just how long things take.
Also goes into a little detail about what kind of legal adjustments the system makes for superheroes, because it's a superhero legal drama :p
Yes, and how nice it is, and how ckean it is, and how littke their csr breaks down and how sparkly and well maintained or their workplsce is, or how brilliant their job is despite being an "average, underdog hero"
$ apt show hollywood
Package: hollywood
Version: 1.21-1.1
Priority: optional
Section: games
Maintainer: Dustin Kirkland <kirkland@ubuntu.com>
Installed-Size: 2,418 kB
Depends: byobu, tmux
Recommends: apg, atop, bmon, bsdextrautils, ccze, cmatrix, htop, jp2a, plocate | locate, moreutils, openssh-client, speedometer, tree
Homepage: https://hollywood.computer/
Download-Size: 2,288 kB
APT-Sources: http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian trixie/main amd64 Packages
Description: fill your console with Hollywood melodrama technobabble
This utility will split your console into a multiple panes of genuine
technobabble, perfectly suitable for any Hollywood geek melodrama.
It is particularly suitable on any number of computer consoles in the
background of any excellent schlock technothriller.
I want a realistic hacking movie, and I know how it should be done:
In plot, it needs to be an ensemble cast heist movie a la Ocean's Eleven. But it should have a "this isn't serious" tone similar to Down Periscope. Because it's about a penetration testing company. They're hired to do a full physical and digital security audit on some large company, so then we follow the crew of law abiding computer nerds and burglars as they plan and perpetrate a series of hacks and attacks on this company.
The stakes if they get caught are they hand a letter of authorization to the security team, say "good job" and report to the company that hired them that their security in that department is good, so even though they're taking their job seriously there isn't really any tension and they maintain a goofy sense of humor.
And you're in luck, Jayson Street and Deviant Ollam have already pretty much entirely written this, just watch their defcon talks. Get those two guys on either side of a coffee table with a bottle of fine whiskey and you'll have your screenplay before the bottle's empty.
It'll never get made though because Master Lock would sue you for even trying. You couldn't make it without completely obliterating Master Lock.
We really don't know how common objects are between stars. We've observed a couple of interstellar visitors passing through our system, old asteroids from origins unknown. But we can only track the really large ones. We can see mid sized objects when they come very close to earth, but we can't track small objects at all, we literally have no idea how much of that exists in deep space. (Or for the most part, in our own solar system)
Still, you can see just from the evidence that our deep space probes have never really (hit) anything, that it would in fact be a quite rare event. It's just hard to say how rare.
That's why I don't believe space travel will ever be as easy as depicted in shows like Star Trek. I cannot believe the human body can withstand such speeds. But I could be wrong. A lot of current technology, I would have said was impossible a few decades ago
The human body can stand very fast speeds, but it can't cope with acceleration. To reach high speed you have to accelerate HARD. Otherwise it's weeks and months just to get moving quickly. And don't get me started on slowing down when you get there.....
And speed is relative to point of view. If you look at an airplane from the ground it moves pretty fast but for the people on board their reference is the plane itself and they're pretty much stationary. And, similarily to airplane, when craft speed or direction changes the force required affects to people on board too and that's where limits of the human body come up pretty quickly.
See The Expanse if you want to see this in action at speeds significantly less than c.
Edit: Even for just getting around in the solar system, they had to magic up some chemicals to allow the human body to withstand deceleratory g-forces strong enough to keep travel times short enough to not completely wreck the narrative.
I wish they expanded on that in the Halo lore. They have these "orbital drop pods" that contain one soldier and are launched at ridiculous speeds towards the ground for quick battlefield insertion. They never address the sudden decrease in velocity, not a single line of dialogue mentions something like an "inertial dampener". It's odd because other systems are typically introduced or hinted at in dialogue, so as to ground the story I guess. (slipspace most notably being their version of FTL travel)
Once nearing the ground, drop pods activate a drag chute (more formally termed a "Drogue Panel"[10]) formed from the upper-most panels. The chute deploys and begins to slow down the pod's descent. Once about 1 kilometre (0.62 mi) from the ground, a series of computer-controlled retrothrusters engage and rapidly decelerate the pod such that it can impact safely.
Also most (not all) drop pod deployments are used by specialized troop like ODST or spartans:
Of these, the UNSC are particularly reliant on the use of drop pods thanks to the aptly-named Orbital Drop Shock Troopers; specialised shock troops who specialise in the use of drop pods to insert behind enemy lines and conduct special missions.[7][8] Although the ODSTs are the primary users of drop pod insertions in the UNSC, both Spartans and regular Marine forces may also use them.[9]
Right, but the way they're depicted in the games doesn't seem nearly enough of a slowdown not to crush the pilot... they would have to slow down to... what, 10m/s to be safe ?
I see your point, but to give that particular game scene plenty of benefit of the doubt: that pod transports a spartan. It is possible that he intensionally disabled the slow deceleration, because he can handle the impact.
Well their way around it in Star Trek is to say that the ships aren't moving at fantastic ftl speeds. They're warping space to make the distances between those points shorter, and then traveling at a reasonable speed across that (briefly) shorter distance. So they don't need to expose humans to extreme g forces.
Warp drives are loosely based on a real theory, an Alcubierre drive, but as far as I know, while the idea is mathematically sound, it's practically quite impossible. They would require some unfathomable amounts of energy to operate as well as matter with negative mass (which is not a thing).
One of my favorite sci-fi books has the main character going through the thousands of paper files stored in his space ship.
But computers still work with our current understanding of physics, I'm far from being an expert but without magic I don't see a way for faster then light or time travel to work.
Pulling people out of a burning building. In reality the smoke and fire is so bad, you ain’t seeing shit, not like the clear visibility like they show in the movies. And I spoke to a firefighter who’d been doing it for 35 years. The guy was teaching fire safety at my workplace. He said he responded to thousands of burning buildings and the number of times anyone’s been saved out of a burning building? Exactly zero. That always stuck with me.
I'm pretty sure it's negative numbers actually, I saw this video once on YouTube where firefighters were carrying people up ladders and putting them inside the burning buildings
Though I fully agree with you i do recall this youtube video from a few years ago of a guy running back into his burning home to save his dog and he got him out alive.
If you know exactly where you're going, and the path is not itself in flame, and the residual heat+smoke have not yet rendered both your path and your patient's current location unsurvivable, then it is possible.
The movie trope of covering your mouth with a rag and walking through rooms which are actively on fire, trying to find someone who has been inside that same room getting asphyxiated and/or cooked for several minutes is most definitely not real.
Getting knocked out for a length of time after being hit on the head is likely going to cause pretty significant brain injury or death.
CPR is so hilariously bad and completely against what is taught in even first aid classes. This includes hospital based medical dramas. CPR is also always successful in movies, but relatively rarely in real life.
If a man and woman consume alcohol, there's an 80% chance that it's about to transition into a sex scene.
Explosions release a crazy amount of fire. In reality explosions are violently expanding gases with almost no flame seen.
Poverty is rarely ever shown accurately. Malcolm in the MIddle was a good example though.
Forensics and science concepts in general are usually fabricated or badly screwed up for the convenience of the plot. "Zoom and enhance!!"
Similarly, shooting the computer monitor won't do anything but make it so you can't see things!
(I liked how it flipped in Into the Spider-Verse - Miles takes off with the computer and monitor, and Peter catches up to him while they flee, and says "Good news! We don't need this" and chucks the monitor behind them)
Or when someone goes down an alley in NYC. There are hardly any alleys in Manhattan. It's a tiny island and every inch of usable space is occupied. That's why there are piles of trash everywhere.
Getting hit on the head and staying unconscious for an extended period of time.
No... No that's not how that shit works. If you're hit on the head so hard that you are lying on the ground limp, you're either dead, dying, or have received sever brain damage.
Millennials/gen Z with their phone sound on. I get it’s to fill otherwise blank space in the sound, but we’re not texting with the click-click-click-click.
Early PCs didn't play beep-boop sounds when you typed or when displaying a letter on the screen either, so join the crowd. I mean, people would have shoved a screwdriver through the speaker diaphragm if they had to listen to that all day.
If you go all the way back to teletypes, okay, there was an impact sound, and computer keyboards were significantly noisier up until membrane and rubber domes became popular, but that's about as far as reality takes one.
Suppressed weapons. Shit is still loud, anyone anywhere near it will hear it. Also, when a bullet hits a person or any other surface the impact sound is loud as well.
Hitting people with beer bottles. You take a beer bottle to the head and you're probably done for.
It’s not as consistent as your point about the silencer but also people absolutely both can 1) keep going after being shot, getting hit once and instantly, silently, being down for the count isn’t that realistic and 2) a lot of people haven’t actually experienced real pain to understand how bad real pain is you don’t get shot and just suck air through your teeth tie a piece of fabric around it tightly then act totally normal, pain can be physically and mentally disabling, especially after a few minutes and the endorphins wear off. I understand shooting people to have them fall down and start screaming bloody murder while also trying to scramble to shoot you back isn’t necessarily good story telling but if it was part of story telling I think a lot of shootings would be skipped in plot lines
a lot of people haven’t actually experienced real pain to understand how bad real pain is you don’t get shot and just suck air through your teeth tie a piece of fabric around it tightly then act totally normal
Tbh, it depends on the person. I've broken a finger before, and while it hurt like hell I didn't scream in pain. I was silent while thinking oh fuck oh fuck oh fuck in my head while trying to get to safety.
That being said, once the adrenaline wore off I had signs of shock. I couldn't stand for long before getting tunnel vision
I tore an Achilles tendon once, and for the first 20 minutes, I was still able to walk, but I was literally blacking out. I didn't feel much pain, but my vision just kept getting dark. When I stopped walking, my vision returned. The pain came afterward 😶
I’ve had a double lung transplant with no epidural, I did physical therapy on ECMO, real pain is mentally disabling. I’ve broken both my arms, the first one I sat for 40 minutes before decoding I should go to urgent care, the other arm I drove myself there. Once you cross your personal threshold for pain you’re more animal than human.
Beer bottles not so much, I've been hit with a beer bottle and a wine bottle, hurt but adrenaline is a hell of a drug. I have seen a guy do the super cool break the bottle on a table to threaten a guy once, he needed 20 or so stitches when the neck of the bottle shattered in his fist. But it did stop the fight.
That's cause people think changing the password all the time is safer, all it does is force people to choose the easiest password or write them on a piece of tape under the mouse mat.
I'm an IT guy and we have mandatory password changes. I just increment the numbers on my password every time since it (at least for now) is sufficient for our ruleset. I assume that majority of our users does something similar.
Sometimes they don't even turn the heart back on. But that's still better than when the heart spasms uncontrollably. CPR and meds can then jump start the heart again.
Remember: 30 chest compressions to the beat of staying alive and then 2 breaths for resuscitation in repeat. Start this as soon as you find someone unconscious and not breathing. Pumping the heart as soon as possible is key.
This one is always hilarious. Like James Bond will be out on some mission for several days and I'll be like "damn, I wonder where he took a shit"
I feel like this is something left out of pretty much every survival video game. You have to figure out how to get food and water etc, but you never have to dig a hole to shit in. It is part of being alive.
Also, the hero getting injured, then goes to the hospital, recovers, and goes right back to his super cool action hero activities. Instead, they would at have a permanent limp or funky shoulder for the rest of their lives at the very least.
The first movie isn't that bad until, there's a scene where he's sideswiped by a Chevy Tahoe and just batted out of frame. That would not have left his skeleton intact.
Giving birth. In movies and TV shows it's always this sudden thing. Like "My water broke! The baby is coming!" then there is some pushing and screaming and bam, baby. In reality, having a baby takes many many hours and often times days, even with induced labor.
Gear changes in cars. Any car racing or high speed chase these cars are always accelerating and changing through endless gears despite being on a long straight.
Except Ronin, Ronin does it well since the chase is in the city and they're always slowing to avoid objects turn down alleyways etc so going through the gears over and over actually makes sense!
Memory loss/amnesia. It works as a plot device but how often it shows up in media makes it seem like, well that’s what happens when you get bonked on the head. Amnesia is actually pretty rare.
CPR/shocking: I was so grateful that Dr. Robby called this out on The Pitt, you can’t shock asystole (flatline). Well, you can but it’s good for fuck all. I get why CPR is done poorly, if you do it for real you’re probably gonna break ribs. But they could do it as fast as it’s supposed to go at least. The dramatic pushes 3 seconds apart is also good for fuck all.
I think familial relationships are often romanticized in movies. I always see siblings act like they are best friends with each other and in my reality my brother and I are just two people. We like each other but I wouldn’t say he’s my best friend and I don’t think he would say it either.
On the other hand, my brother and sister are two of the best people in the world, and we get together as a big family with all the kids absolutely every school holiday. Some families are close. We don't always agree on everything, but we always get along well.
Yes, also hollywood portrays friends and family as cussing each other off and being really pissy with each other because "nothing mean that we say is lasting or counts as an insult because we already have emotional invulnerability to one another" - it is not like this AT ALL in real life. The people who can hurt you most are the ones closest to you, and i think that this is an example where real life has been imitating the art too much - people are much more emotionally abusive of one another than before, taking banter much too far.
Man no kidding. Sitcoms! People just quipping at one another and taking it in stride, still being best buddies while mocking each other's (usually one-note) shortcomings.
Try that with 99% of people in real life and chances are it'll just get you in deep doo-doo. People can be shockingly sensitive even over small things.
Injections always annoy me. Shanking people in the neck with ridiculously fat needles. Or how bout Pulp Fiction where they stab her through the sternum? Also going in the arm, but the angle’s totally wrong and they’d basically be stabbing right through the vein lol
The message in films that police, law, and the military are protectors and heroes instead of "every soldier, cop, and bureaucrat are complicit if not actively engaged and fully believing fascists."
Movies get a lot of support from those institutions as long as they portray them in a positive light. The US military has an office in Hollywood to ensure cooperation.
Yep heard of this one! It's pretty f-ed up that people are going out looking for fights thinking that thwre's no harm in them or themselves getting a concussion
That's... still plenty of time to go around... What's even being taught in schools? I didn't learn about the risk of concussions until through the Internet after I graduated...
People getting shot or killed. In reality, they don’t die instantly. They will act more surprised, then the panic sets in as they realise what happened and the pain sets in. They will cry for help as they slowly bleed out. It will take minutes. But that doesn’t look good on the screen. Some movies did parody this.
That makes me think of Peter Sellers' in-movie scene at the beginning of The Party. I love this movie when I was a kid, but I suspect that an English comedian in brownface playing an Indian would not go over so well these days.
If you manage to hit them hard enough to actually put them out like that, they are likely bleeding internally and going to die without immidiate hospital care. Maybe even die anyway.
I honestly would love to change reality to where people could just be knocked out to be subdued, like in movies.
I dunno, people are gonna be all sneaky and clandestine anyway, it'd be cool if outright murder wasn't the only way to get past a determined guard or whomever.
Horror/suspense movies where the character slowly turns their head to see what's behind them. A normal person would whip their head around pretty quickly if they feel/hear something scary.
I find that they too often exaggerate the wisdom of following the orders of the bad guy. Like, if they say "drop your weapon or I shoot the hostage" okay sure, maybe consider dropping your weapon, depending on circumstances. If it's "give me the MacGuffin I need to release the neurotoxin and kill fifty million people or I shoot the hostage" maybe don't do that.
Any time a car or other vehicle is involved in an accident, it erupts in a massive explosion or fireball. If every car did that IRL, the fire department would never be out of a job knowing how they hand out licenses like candy.
When I was 16 I swerved to miss a recliner in the roadway (yeah you read that right) and ended up careening off the road down an embankment. As soon as I was stopped at the bottom, I was convinced I had to clear the area because obviously the car was about to explode. It did not. So anyway that was my first and worst car accident. Why there was a recliner in the roadway is a mystery I will never solve.
there is a large overlap in the Venn diagram of people who wouldn't notice if an entire ass recliner fell out of their pickup truck and people who fail to properly secure cargo in their pickup truck
True true… but it was situated like, fully reclined. One idea was that knuckleheads placed it there as a prank, bro. But the other, probably more reasonable, is your idea.
In anti-authoritarian movies, they don't go beyond what happens after the revolution or "the day after" as Slavoj Zizek always say. Unfortunately in real life, post-revolutions do not always lead to a happy ending. Just ask most of post-colonial states. Only a handful succeed and become prosperous and secure.
This is a notable fact! Again, inaccurate movies will push viewers into making bad choices.
One of my favourite games ever, The Life and Suffering of Sir Brante, talks about this a lot. It's a choose-your-own-adventure and no matter what end goals you focus on you will have to make many choices that sacrifice your own character's happiness, or that of their family, in some way, just to make sure that you don't get a "bad ending" where your faction loses during the revolt at the end of the game.
I'm thinking about it a lot because it's sequel comes out soon.
Two TV shows which manage to accurately convey revolutionary failure are Andor and Deutschland 83
How comfortable people are dragging their nice clothes/long coats/shoes into water and mud. How many times you see a woman in a period piece with this long flowing dress, traipsing through a big muddy area and not even attempting to hold her dress up out of it. like, c'mon, man. People in movies just don't care about having wet socks I guess.
There's a Youtuber named Bernadette Banner who does a lot of antique style sewing and fashion and such. She made a replica of the white dress Mary Poppins wears in the cartoon segment of the movie. At the end of the video, she frolicked in the park in it. The next video was the 3 day process of period accurate washing it. She followed a manual written back in the day, and omitted the gasoline(!) the detergent recipe called for.
The truth. All movies are Hollywood-, make-believe fairytales. Took me ages to find out that even documentaries only a show a particular glimpse of reality.
A lot of explosions in movies are, as I understand it, gasoline explosions (which produce a deflagration). Those are impressive and very visible and orangy and don't actually create all that much pressure, so damage from the pressure wave or shrapnel isn't so much a thing. You can do the stoic walk out of an explosion thing.
I think that the video of the Beirut explosion, which is large and filmed from a distance, so you can see the shockwave traveling over time, drives home how there is a lot of force going on in the air.
I’ve read that drinking is often used to communicate depression or stress to viewers. I always found it odd that everyone has a bar in their house so I started thinking about it more and did some reading.
Between tenitise and auditory hallucinations a lot of my life dose have a background sound track, it's normally just a little to low to make out the song.
Supressors as well. If two guys were walking through an airport shooting at each other everyone would still know it. Also a suppressor has a pop on the first shot.
If you have your firearm knowledge from movies and TV you don't know anything except what Hollywood wants you to think.
Guy gets shot and the impact sends him flying across the room, out the window, etc. Physics says “oh hell no”. The guy who fired that shot would have likely had his arm dislocated from the recoil if he was able to even hold onto it.
I can't stand how movies and TV shows depict people. Nobody talks like that in real life, or walks like that. They don't make those facial expresions, or say those words. It just makes them deeply unnerving for me. Its weird, because other people either don't notice it at all or even prefer it for some reason.
This is precisely what i was thinking of when i made this post!
I've known people who do put-on the "romcom/sitcom protsgonist persona" which you describe - overly bubbly, intonating words wrong, corporate speak - and long story short, they're always untrustworthy.
I've noticed a distinct lack of realism in scriptwriting. Cinematographers seem to have tried realism in just about every aspect except characters' speech.
Obviously real dialogue has limitations like stuttering, mispronouncing, forgetting/saying the wrong word, talking over each other, etc. but I feel like there are other traits of natural conversation that could be worked in without fully compromising comprehensibility
The only examples I know of that attempt speech realism are Primer and United 93
I dunno I get upset about how long people face each other talking while one of them is allegedly in control of the vehicle. Don't get me started on seat belts and head rests!
True! I sorta did that with The Matrix. I read reviews for the second movie and multiple people were regretfully saying they wished they had stopped at #1. So I've never seen any of the sequels.
When is the last time you saw someone in a movie hotwire a car?
According to every movie I've seen, the way it's done is you reach under the steering wheel and yank down a panel that is apparently velcroed on. A bunch of loose wires dump out, including two wires conveniently in front whose ends are conveniently stripped and tinned. You grab these two wires and strike them against each other like flint and steel. This apparently switches on the vehicle's electrical and ignition systems, disengages the steering lock and engages the starter motor.
Funnily enough you actually could hotwire a plane like that; because of how magnetos work, turning the ignition systems on is accomplished by disconnecting a couple wires.
Basically everything and anything to do with mental health/psychology. People with Dissociative Identity Disorder (or "Multiple Personality Disorder" as it used to be known) do not have "evil" alters. DID is also not the same thing as schizophrenia. OCD is often not focused on hygiene or cleanliness. Antidepressants aren't "happy pills," and while emotional blunting is a possible side effect (not the entire point of taking the medication!), it's often a sign that you're on the wrong dose or the wrong medication. People don't typically self-harm because they're suicidal. Eating disorders don't always have a focus on body image and anyone of any body size can be affected. There's no singular mental illness that causes people to be abusive or violent, and mentally ill people are more likely to be victims of violence than perpetrators. Etcetera.
Awesome breakdown! You seem to know a lot about the topic so in your words, (or with a source of your choice) would you mind explaining how DID tends to manifest/how it could better be depicted in movies and television?
Well, I don't have DID, but from what I understand, alters are just people? They might hold some traumatic memories and experiences, but they're not like...serial killers. I recommend looking up stuff written by people with DID if you're curious.
Usually bad guys with guns can actually aim those guns. Or at least if they can't the fact that there's 50 of them means that eventually one of them will hit you.
See, to me this sounds like calling someone dishonest for claiming they "had their head in the clouds." Oh, what's that, your head wasn't actually a mile in the air? You god damn liar.
It's not dishonesty when everyone understands the meaning. If you present an intentional fantasy, the audience knows it's a fantasy. Everyone is in on it.
I was trusting this same mutual understanding that sometimes you say things you don't really mean to guide people to understand that I did not mean what I said literally. All movie tropes, like romance tropes and hacking shenanigans, rely on this same contract.
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derek@infosec.pub · 141 pts · 52d
The relaxed position of mammalian eyelids leaves them open. Muscles must contract for the eyes to be shut. Dead creatures cannot contract their muscles so their eyes remain open after they die.
You cannot shut their eyes for them by closing their eyes with your hand. Morticians place contacts in cadaver's eyes while preparing the body for a wake. Those contacts grip the inside of the eyelids so that they remain closed.
This is why some cultures have funerary traditions in which objects are placed over the eyes.
TL;DR: you and your loved ones won't close their eyes when they die.
FinjaminPoach@lemmy.world · 53 pts · 52d
This is a really big one. I have to revise all of my heroic self insert fantasies where i cover up a dead person's eyes
topherclay@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 52d
Like when you're at the bank and a bank robber shoots a bunch of people and then you jump out from cover and start covering all the corpses eyes super fast.
hakunawazo@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 52d
I don't remember well if it was NakedGun, Loaded Weapon or Hot Shots where the eyes of a body stayed open until it was hit in the face.
Iconoclast@feddit.uk · 102 pts · 52d
Loudness of gunshots. Every action hero would be deaf.
Archers being told to "hold". Nobody's holding a +100lbs warbow.
Sprinklers. In the vast majority of cases they react to heat - not smoke. They only go off individually rather than all at once and the water inside the pipes is black ink-like rust water sludge, not clear tap water.
Also another plumbing related: you don't need a huge wrench under the sink and drains are not pressurized so there's no water spraying anywhere when you mess with the p-trap.
funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works · 50 pts · 52d
Also archers being told to "fire"
as firing didn't exist until gunpowder, the instruction wouldn't make sense. Like telling a soldier now to "activate the positronic tacyons!" instead of "fire"
NABDad@lemmy.world · 33 pts · 52d
Loose!
Zos_Kia@jlai.lu · 1 pts · 50d
Also they didn't really do massive coordinated volleys
sbv@sh.itjust.works · 87 pts · 52d
Sex and relationships in action movies.
The whole "hot chick gets horny for the hero after a traumatizing couple of hours" thing gives a pretty messed up view of relationship building.
Okokimup@lemmy.world · 31 pts · 52d
Or as comedian Kyle Kincaid said, the idea that the action hero could still get it up.
0ops@piefed.zip · 11 pts · 52d
This one definitely turned me off the first Terminator movie. I mean I know it's critical to the plot but it still makes me roll my eyes.
sbv@sh.itjust.works · 15 pts · 52d
The 80s and 90s were rife with that trope. I don't know if modern action flicks are as bad.
MonkeMischief@lemmy.today · 10 pts · 52d
I remember Speed made a joke about this at the end. A crack about "Relationships built on life threatening traumas don't last" or something lol
hakunawazo@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 52d
And it was proven by Speed 2 I guess.
Kolanaki@pawb.social · 71 pts · 52d
Cops being the good guys.
VitoRobles@lemmy.today · 15 pts · 51d
Imagine an evil terrorist organization coming into the picture, and it's up to REAL COPS to stop them.
And like real cops, they end up taking a detour to Walmart, where a woman was accused of stealing so they pull out their guns and kill a baby.
Oh is this too real? My bad.
ChillPenguin@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 52d
Honestly, watch any crime documentary and you realize how often cops are absolutely incompetent.
1D10@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 52d
I like watching suspect interviews, all the cops follow the same script, if people would just shut up and ask for the lawyer far fewer crimes would be solved.
I tell my kids to treat cops like vampires, never let them in the house and sticking to your rights is garlic to them.
areakode@riskeratspizza.com · 2 pts · 51d
Cops are your friend (remember we're talking to children here) up until the moment you are accused of a crime. If they think you're involved in something, stop talking and ask for a lawyer!
1D10@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 49d
Nah, cops are not your friend, I'm a 50 something white male, I have called the cops 3 times in my life.
When I was 15 I found a guitar in the woods, cop did everything he could to pin the theft on me, even searched my house.
Late 30s some kid stole my sons bike, we knew who did it but the cops just said well we didn't see it happen so we can't do anything.
At 50 a friend attempted suicide, I called an ambulance, cops got there first, walked right past my unconscious friend and started poking around the house.
I raised my kids to stay out of trouble and stay away from cops.
areakode@riskeratspizza.com · 1 pts · 48d
Fair enough. Keep the dogs in and the cops out!
MIDItheKID@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 51d
Wow, that's a pretty sweeping statement. I know some cops, and let me tell you, I don't need to watch a documentary to know that they are incompetent.
Gorgritch_umie_killa@aussie.zone · 3 pts · 51d
Flagstaff@programming.dev · 2 pts · 52d
I think they were basically as decent as possible in The Perfect Neighbor, unfortunately. I could be wrong, though.
ChillPenguin@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 51d
Nah you're probably not wrong haha. I'm sure there are good examples. But for the most part all I hear and watch is absolutely terrible detective and police work.
slazer2au@lemmy.world · 67 pts · 52d
Hacking.
tap tap tap I'm in.
Honourable mention is NCIS Dual keyboard
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8qgehH3kEQ
tal@lemmy.today · 30 pts · 52d
Years back, I remember watching the Wargames scene where the computer was trying to "guess a passcode". Which it was doing remotely. Determining one digit at a time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGNBdjVO04Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7qOV8xonfY
I said, "This is completely ridiculous. That's not how any kind of real world authentication system works." Dramatic, yes. Realistic? No, never happen.
Some years later, there was a severe remote exploit for the filesharing feature for Windows 95 and 98 systems. Not only had the Microsoft person who designed the thing stored the password to a share in plaintext instead of hashing it, which would have precluded this from working, but there was also a bug where the server's authentication system could be sent a malformed message and only validated as many bytes of the password as had been specified in the authentication message. Someone promptly went out and wrote an exploit to brute-force access to a share by just asking it to only validate the first byte, try each, get in in at most 256 tries. I look at that and say "yeah, but it also exposes the next byte of the password itself, and those probably persist even after the thing is patched, not to mention the potential for credentials reuse for other things". I go modify Samba's smbclient to iterate through the thing, extract the password one byte at a time. I message a buddy who has a Windows 98 machine on the network, "hey, can I break into your machine for a sec?" He comes up "Uh, okay. What are you up to, tal?"
I fire it up and we're sitting there watching his password be printed on my Linux box's screen, one letter at a time. I said, "This is exactly like that scene in Wargames that I said could never, ever happen in real life, was just Hollywood. Guess that showed me." He says, "fucking Microsoft".
EnsignWashout@startrek.website · 19 pts · 52d
Top hacking scene of all time!
neidu3@sh.itjust.works · 8 pts · 52d
I somehow didn't see that episode. But now that I've seen that scene, it is certainly one of the all time UNIXest of Systems
MonkeMischief@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 52d
There's something called FSN for file systems, and this here is a guide to make it work like the IRIX system in the movie. https://github.com/unixmonkey/fsn_jurassic_park
I think that's just WAY too cool. :D
kindnesskills@literature.cafe · 10 pts · 52d
That's the gold standard for hacking, by far. But this also deserves a mention for pushing the bounds of technology, way ahead of it's time: https://youtu.be/fQGbXmkSArs
dethedrus@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 51d
Thank you for this nugget of GLORIOUS stupidity!
kindnesskills@literature.cafe · 3 pts · 51d
You may enjoy the full 30 min movie: https://youtu.be/bS5P_LAqiVg
It's a goldmine of insanity!
dethedrus@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 51d
I belive I might just!
Thank you again
tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 51d
FYI the ?is= part of the yt link is extra tracking data for google. You can drop it and the link still works
https://youtu.be/fQGbXmkSArs
kindnesskills@literature.cafe · 2 pts · 51d
Righto, fixed it. Thanks!
LovableSidekick@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 52d
Cute Asian girl with green hair and a side ponytail: "I'm in!"
Six keystrokes later: "Ok I pulled up the floor plans to the building, disabled the cameras and unlocked all the doors."
Aatube@kbin.melroy.org · 6 pts · 52d
that's a lot of cuts
slazer2au@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 52d
Not as many as what's his face jumping a fence in one of the Taken films.
MonkeMischief@lemmy.today · 5 pts · 52d
Leapin' Neeson!
captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 51d
One man's Linux is another man's OS/2.
eezeebee@lemmy.ca · 61 pts · 52d
Telephone etiquette. They just start yapping and then hang up without saying goodbye.
tal@lemmy.today · 26 pts · 52d
There's a common theme in movies --- since you can only hear one side of a phone conversation --- of a character repeating a lot of what the other person said for the audience's benefit. I've seen some example conversations written out showing both sides that show how ludicrous such a conversation would have to be.
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RepeatingSoTheAudienceCanHear
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEB-OoUrNuk
MonkeMischief@lemmy.today · 10 pts · 52d
MrKoyun@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 51d
Yeah, Ice Cream.
MajorMajormajormajor@lemmy.ca · 19 pts · 52d
phone rings, main character picks it up
"I don't know who you are. I don't know what you want. If you are looking for ransom, I can tell you I don't have money. But what I do have are a very particular set of skills, skills I have acquired over a very long career. Skills that make me a nightmare for people like you. If you let my daughter go now, that'll be the end of it. I will not look for you, I will not pursue you. But if you don't, I will look for you, I will find you, and I will kill you." - MC
"Uhh, I'm just calling about your extended car warranty..." - poor bastard
RebekahWSD@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 52d
My mother's husband does that shit though. Never says goodbye, just hangs up the phone and I'm left annoyed again.
SwingingTheLamp@piefed.zip · 45 pts · 52d
Most dishonest about? Hard to say, since movies are dishonest about virtually everything. (As escapism, that's what we want.) But a big one that comes to mind is proceedings in courts of law.
In real life, a court case is excruciatingly procedural, spread out over months of correspondence and brief hearings, and the vast majority of them never go to trial. And for the few that do go to trial, there are never any intense, witness-stand confrontations, or inspiring speechifying by the plaintiff or defendant. No attorneys shouting, "OBJECTION!", across the room.
I know of two friends of a friend, one of whom signed a reverse mortgage on his house with some scammers who promised that he could live the rest of his life there, but then who turned around and filed to evict him. Clearly influenced by dramatic courtroom scenes in TV and movies, he seemed to think that "court" meant that he would be able to show up and give the judge a moving soliloquy about being a righteous, disabled veteran, and prevail. The judge did his level best to help the guy out by almost insisting on appointing a guardian ad litem (free attorney!), but he refused. (Sadly, he died before it went to trial, and the scammers kept the house.)
The other one got sued by a credit card company over a charge that was obviously bogus (i.e. from a swimming pool contractor in eastern Europe, which is just who you'd call in the midwestern U.S.), but they had the same mental script: Show up in the courtroom and speechify to the judge. They didn't even respond to the summons and complaint, and the company won by default judgement.
It's maddening.
AmyAye@nord.pub · 13 pts · 52d
I sat on the jury for a murder trial last year (maybe 2). It was impressive how inept both the defence and prosecution seemed and how flat out sloppy it all felt.
binarytobis@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 52d
I had the same observation on an assault case.
5too@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 52d
The story Foxfire, Esq on Royal Road is written by a lawyer, and goes into all kinds of detail about the processes they go through, and just how long things take.
Also goes into a little detail about what kind of legal adjustments the system makes for superheroes, because it's a superhero legal drama :p
SwingingTheLamp@piefed.zip · 2 pts · 52d
Never heard of it, but it sounds interesting. Thanks!
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 51d
It's amazing just how stupid people are
anon_8675309@lemmy.world · 41 pts · 51d
How big a house an average person can afford.
SLVRDRGN@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 51d
Another version of this - how big an apartment/house an artist can afford.
ivanafterall@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 51d
Not if you presume they have rich parents.
FinjaminPoach@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 51d
Yes, and how nice it is, and how ckean it is, and how littke their csr breaks down and how sparkly and well maintained or their workplsce is, or how brilliant their job is despite being an "average, underdog hero"
tal@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 51d
How big a house an average person can afford doesn't necessarily precisely track how big a house the average person actually purchases, mind.
anon_8675309@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 51d
I’m so very sorry I set off your well technically trigger.
SLVRDRGN@lemmy.world · 38 pts · 52d
Hacking.
hakunawazo@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 52d
That's probably just a fancy gui skin over a boring port scanner and a bash script testing some 0 days.
tal@lemmy.today · 8 pts · 51d
captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 51d
I want a realistic hacking movie, and I know how it should be done:
In plot, it needs to be an ensemble cast heist movie a la Ocean's Eleven. But it should have a "this isn't serious" tone similar to Down Periscope. Because it's about a penetration testing company. They're hired to do a full physical and digital security audit on some large company, so then we follow the crew of law abiding computer nerds and burglars as they plan and perpetrate a series of hacks and attacks on this company.
The stakes if they get caught are they hand a letter of authorization to the security team, say "good job" and report to the company that hired them that their security in that department is good, so even though they're taking their job seriously there isn't really any tension and they maintain a goofy sense of humor.
And you're in luck, Jayson Street and Deviant Ollam have already pretty much entirely written this, just watch their defcon talks. Get those two guys on either side of a coffee table with a bottle of fine whiskey and you'll have your screenplay before the bottle's empty.
It'll never get made though because Master Lock would sue you for even trying. You couldn't make it without completely obliterating Master Lock.
deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz · 38 pts · 52d
Distances in space.
Everything is further away that you can possibly imagine.
hakunawazo@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 52d
Warp 9 to the nearest wormhole.
osanna@lemmy.vg · 7 pts · 52d
The Voyagers, by some measures, haven't even left the solar system, and they've been going for decades
Flagstaff@programming.dev · 3 pts · 52d
It's amazing that it hasn't collided with anything severe enough to end its research all these years...
deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz · 8 pts · 52d
That's because the space between things is enormous.
Most of the universe is just hydrogen gas, really small particles really far apart.
Something big enough to make a difference hitting Voyager would be a staggeringly rate event.
Cocodapuf@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 51d
We assume all of that.
We really don't know how common objects are between stars. We've observed a couple of interstellar visitors passing through our system, old asteroids from origins unknown. But we can only track the really large ones. We can see mid sized objects when they come very close to earth, but we can't track small objects at all, we literally have no idea how much of that exists in deep space. (Or for the most part, in our own solar system)
Still, you can see just from the evidence that our deep space probes have never really (hit) anything, that it would in fact be a quite rare event. It's just hard to say how rare.
Hadriscus@jlai.lu · 6 pts · 52d
Like a single grain of dust should be enough at those speeds
osanna@lemmy.vg · 5 pts · 52d
aaaaand that's why we will NEVER reach 99% c
Dust at that speed would be CATASTROPHIC.
deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz · 4 pts · 52d
I like Alistair Reynolds' Revelation Dpace take on it.
Massive ice shields, long thin ships to minimize cross section.
Occasionally ships just go poof.
FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 52d
That's why I don't believe space travel will ever be as easy as depicted in shows like Star Trek. I cannot believe the human body can withstand such speeds. But I could be wrong. A lot of current technology, I would have said was impossible a few decades ago
jafffacakelemmy@mander.xyz · 14 pts · 52d
The human body can stand very fast speeds, but it can't cope with acceleration. To reach high speed you have to accelerate HARD. Otherwise it's weeks and months just to get moving quickly. And don't get me started on slowing down when you get there.....
IsoKiero@sopuli.xyz · 9 pts · 52d
And speed is relative to point of view. If you look at an airplane from the ground it moves pretty fast but for the people on board their reference is the plane itself and they're pretty much stationary. And, similarily to airplane, when craft speed or direction changes the force required affects to people on board too and that's where limits of the human body come up pretty quickly.
deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz · 9 pts · 52d
Acceleration at one gravity is 9.81ms^-1^ which is about 35km/h per second. That would take about a year to reach close to the speed of light.
You'd then need to spend the same amount of time slowing down.
So to get to our nearest stellar neighbour (alpha centaurii 4.3 LY distant) you still need to coast for about 2.3 years in the middle of the journey.
This is all assuming you can provide that much thrust constantly for two years.
Opal@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 51d
We just need to discover astrophage.
schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 51d
See The Expanse if you want to see this in action at speeds significantly less than c.
Edit: Even for just getting around in the solar system, they had to magic up some chemicals to allow the human body to withstand deceleratory g-forces strong enough to keep travel times short enough to not completely wreck the narrative.
stretch2m@infosec.pub · 13 pts · 52d
Isn't that what "inertial dampeners" supposedly address?
Hadriscus@jlai.lu · 3 pts · 52d
I wish they expanded on that in the Halo lore. They have these "orbital drop pods" that contain one soldier and are launched at ridiculous speeds towards the ground for quick battlefield insertion. They never address the sudden decrease in velocity, not a single line of dialogue mentions something like an "inertial dampener". It's odd because other systems are typically introduced or hinted at in dialogue, so as to ground the story I guess. (slipspace most notably being their version of FTL travel)
spectrums_coherence@piefed.social · 3 pts · 52d
They do slow down after a bit:
Also most (not all) drop pod deployments are used by specialized troop like ODST or spartans:
https://www.halopedia.org/Drop_pod
Hadriscus@jlai.lu · 3 pts · 52d
Right, but the way they're depicted in the games doesn't seem nearly enough of a slowdown not to crush the pilot... they would have to slow down to... what, 10m/s to be safe ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CK6qqVX_kOA
spectrums_coherence@piefed.social · 3 pts · 51d
I see your point, but to give that particular game scene plenty of benefit of the doubt: that pod transports a spartan. It is possible that he intensionally disabled the slow deceleration, because he can handle the impact.
Hadriscus@jlai.lu · 2 pts · 51d
Yea spartans are supposed to be quite sturdy I reckon. I haven't read the books but I heard they regularly do crazy shit in them
Cocodapuf@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 51d
Well their way around it in Star Trek is to say that the ships aren't moving at fantastic ftl speeds. They're warping space to make the distances between those points shorter, and then traveling at a reasonable speed across that (briefly) shorter distance. So they don't need to expose humans to extreme g forces.
Warp drives are loosely based on a real theory, an Alcubierre drive, but as far as I know, while the idea is mathematically sound, it's practically quite impossible. They would require some unfathomable amounts of energy to operate as well as matter with negative mass (which is not a thing).
1D10@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 52d
One of my favorite sci-fi books has the main character going through the thousands of paper files stored in his space ship.
But computers still work with our current understanding of physics, I'm far from being an expert but without magic I don't see a way for faster then light or time travel to work.
FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca · 38 pts · 52d
Movies and shows about legal disputes rarely show how long and dragged out they usually are
LORDSMEGMA@sh.itjust.works · 24 pts · 52d
Imagine being stuck in a theater for 6 years
ieGod@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 51d
I have a coworker whose divorce proceedings have been dragging for years now :(
Hadriscus@jlai.lu · 37 pts · 52d
the classic : no cleanup after sex
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 20 pts · 51d
Also how everyone is like wrapping their entire body up in sheets to get up from the bed. As if they weren't literally just fucking lol
FinjaminPoach@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 51d
Yes and i think this would be a healthy thing to show.
Hadriscus@jlai.lu · 2 pts · 51d
Absolutely.
MrKoyun@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 51d
characters awkwardly rolling up toilet paper and changing the bedsheets for 10 minutes
ivanafterall@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 51d
This made one scene in the Fallout TV series very effective.
ChowJeeBai@lemmy.world · 36 pts · 52d
Explosion and gun sounds in spaaaaceeee!
thisisbutaname@discuss.tchncs.de · 27 pts · 52d
Gun sounds in general. All those action heroes are deaf after that indoors shootout
blarghly@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 52d
MWOP
Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe · 3 pts · 52d
Ok, Archer!
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 4 pts · 51d
mawp... mawp...
MonkeMischief@lemmy.today · 4 pts · 52d
--Steve Carell as Agent Maxwell Smart, after having a training pistol shot right next to his ear in a prior scene.
(Goofily enough, that scene features a slow motion CGI bullet flying through the air... With the casing still on lmao)
GeneralEmergency@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 52d
Bruce Willis would agree
kossa@feddit.org · 34 pts · 52d
Running over a cliff and only start to fall once realizing that you just ran over a cliff.
That's not real, you fall immediately.
FinjaminPoach@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 51d
Have you ever tried?? I think it could be real
hakunawazo@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 52d
Flagstaff@programming.dev · 7 pts · 52d
*points a finger at Loony Tunes for starting it*
MelonYellow@lemmy.ca · 32 pts · 52d
Pulling people out of a burning building. In reality the smoke and fire is so bad, you ain’t seeing shit, not like the clear visibility like they show in the movies. And I spoke to a firefighter who’d been doing it for 35 years. The guy was teaching fire safety at my workplace. He said he responded to thousands of burning buildings and the number of times anyone’s been saved out of a burning building? Exactly zero. That always stuck with me.
lennybird@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 52d
The heat alone is off the fucking charts, too. These are 1,100-1,500F. Like trying to walk through an oven only 3 or 4x hotter.
luthis@lemmy.nz · 7 pts · 52d
I'm pretty sure it's negative numbers actually, I saw this video once on YouTube where firefighters were carrying people up ladders and putting them inside the burning buildings
MonkeMischief@lemmy.today · 4 pts · 52d
I think... That video might have been backwards... Or you were remembering it in reverse? 😂
hakunawazo@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 52d
phoenixz@lemmy.ca · 6 pts · 52d
Though I fully agree with you i do recall this youtube video from a few years ago of a guy running back into his burning home to save his dog and he got him out alive.
this_jury_is_hung@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 52d
If you know exactly where you're going, and the path is not itself in flame, and the residual heat+smoke have not yet rendered both your path and your patient's current location unsurvivable, then it is possible.
The movie trope of covering your mouth with a rag and walking through rooms which are actively on fire, trying to find someone who has been inside that same room getting asphyxiated and/or cooked for several minutes is most definitely not real.
cRazi_man@europe.pub · 30 pts · 52d
Getting knocked out for a length of time after being hit on the head is likely going to cause pretty significant brain injury or death.
CPR is so hilariously bad and completely against what is taught in even first aid classes. This includes hospital based medical dramas. CPR is also always successful in movies, but relatively rarely in real life.
If a man and woman consume alcohol, there's an 80% chance that it's about to transition into a sex scene.
Explosions release a crazy amount of fire. In reality explosions are violently expanding gases with almost no flame seen.
Poverty is rarely ever shown accurately. Malcolm in the MIddle was a good example though.
Forensics and science concepts in general are usually fabricated or badly screwed up for the convenience of the plot. "Zoom and enhance!!"
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 6 pts · 51d
Also, if a woman vomits without first consuming alcohol, that means she's pregnant. Bonus points if it's in the morning.
FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 52d
I unironically like Madame Web, but I admit the CPR was laughable
cRazi_man@europe.pub · 8 pts · 52d
"I unironically like Madame Web" - @FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca
Some quotes are so unique, you'll never come across again and they deserve to be immortalised.
panda_abyss@lemmy.ca · 30 pts · 52d
Nobody has that much time in the morning, or they go to bed at 8PM.
I want to see celebrities walking around sweaty in a hot day. Show us the sweat takes!
Bad cell phone reception is also depicted wrong. But I’m not an expert.
Smashing your phone does not reliably disable it. Odds are the data is completely recoverable, and the device may not have even powered down.
Also ghosts. As far as we know ghosts are not real. Yet there’s an entire genre of movies about ghosts with varying rules.
The amount of trauma the human body can absorb is a bathtub curve based on your morality.
NYC should only ever be depicted with giant piles of trash everywhere.
blarghly@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 52d
Yeah, and what's up with all the flying people with super strength, and talking animals too? So dumb
FinjaminPoach@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 52d
Talking animals are real, but if you witness it you're in imminent danger and unlikely to live to tell the tale
MonkeMischief@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 52d
Beg your pardon....
K wat now? :|
tal@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 52d
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0B76rvI_Jk
5too@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 52d
Similarly, shooting the computer monitor won't do anything but make it so you can't see things!
(I liked how it flipped in Into the Spider-Verse - Miles takes off with the computer and monitor, and Peter catches up to him while they flee, and says "Good news! We don't need this" and chucks the monitor behind them)
sangriaferret@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 52d
Or when someone goes down an alley in NYC. There are hardly any alleys in Manhattan. It's a tiny island and every inch of usable space is occupied. That's why there are piles of trash everywhere.
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 51d
This seems more like a trope from the 70s-90s
janus2@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 51d
as someone who walked past several giant piles of trash in Brooklyn, Staten Island, and Manhattan today, I must regrettably disagree
insaneinthemembrane@lemmy.world · 28 pts · 52d
Romantic relationships. Way too much stalking and abuse of power. Far too many very large age gaps. All that stuff.
captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 51d
Find me a romantic comedy that doesn't depict either of the two leads being psychotic or felonious.
BeMoreCareful@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 50d
The age gap thing is gross. We need to get some of these people in a cold shower.
Tattorack@lemmy.world · 28 pts · 51d
Getting hit on the head and staying unconscious for an extended period of time.
No... No that's not how that shit works. If you're hit on the head so hard that you are lying on the ground limp, you're either dead, dying, or have received sever brain damage.
FinjaminPoach@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 51d
sh.itjust.works
thesohoriots@lemmy.world · 28 pts · 52d
Millennials/gen Z with their phone sound on. I get it’s to fill otherwise blank space in the sound, but we’re not texting with the click-click-click-click.
tal@lemmy.today · 7 pts · 52d
Early PCs didn't play beep-boop sounds when you typed or when displaying a letter on the screen either, so join the crowd. I mean, people would have shoved a screwdriver through the speaker diaphragm if they had to listen to that all day.
If you go all the way back to teletypes, okay, there was an impact sound, and computer keyboards were significantly noisier up until membrane and rubber domes became popular, but that's about as far as reality takes one.
SimpleMachine@sh.itjust.works · 27 pts · 52d
Suppressed weapons. Shit is still loud, anyone anywhere near it will hear it. Also, when a bullet hits a person or any other surface the impact sound is loud as well.
Hitting people with beer bottles. You take a beer bottle to the head and you're probably done for.
CultLeader4Hire@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 52d
It’s not as consistent as your point about the silencer but also people absolutely both can 1) keep going after being shot, getting hit once and instantly, silently, being down for the count isn’t that realistic and 2) a lot of people haven’t actually experienced real pain to understand how bad real pain is you don’t get shot and just suck air through your teeth tie a piece of fabric around it tightly then act totally normal, pain can be physically and mentally disabling, especially after a few minutes and the endorphins wear off. I understand shooting people to have them fall down and start screaming bloody murder while also trying to scramble to shoot you back isn’t necessarily good story telling but if it was part of story telling I think a lot of shootings would be skipped in plot lines
mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 52d
Tbh, it depends on the person. I've broken a finger before, and while it hurt like hell I didn't scream in pain. I was silent while thinking oh fuck oh fuck oh fuck in my head while trying to get to safety.
That being said, once the adrenaline wore off I had signs of shock. I couldn't stand for long before getting tunnel vision
outerspace@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 52d
I tore an Achilles tendon once, and for the first 20 minutes, I was still able to walk, but I was literally blacking out. I didn't feel much pain, but my vision just kept getting dark. When I stopped walking, my vision returned. The pain came afterward 😶
CultLeader4Hire@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 52d
I’ve had a double lung transplant with no epidural, I did physical therapy on ECMO, real pain is mentally disabling. I’ve broken both my arms, the first one I sat for 40 minutes before decoding I should go to urgent care, the other arm I drove myself there. Once you cross your personal threshold for pain you’re more animal than human.
StupidBrotherInLaw@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 52d
Sounds like CF. I knew a chap who also had a lung transplant after spending a week on ECMO. I can't even imagine what you both went through.
schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 51d
I think listening to your buddy dying all night in No Man's Land is a staple of WW1 films.
1D10@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 52d
Beer bottles not so much, I've been hit with a beer bottle and a wine bottle, hurt but adrenaline is a hell of a drug. I have seen a guy do the super cool break the bottle on a table to threaten a guy once, he needed 20 or so stitches when the neck of the bottle shattered in his fist. But it did stop the fight.
anon_8675309@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 51d
I’ve seen a guy take a ball bat to the head and kept fighting. Adrenaline exists for a reason.
Medic8eme@piefed.ca · 26 pts · 51d
Getting knocked unconscious.
Zwuzelmaus@feddit.org · 25 pts · 52d
Cars explode after an accident.
Passwords can be guessed.
Up and Down exists in outer space.
slazer2au@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 52d
You would be shocked how often they can be.
Season plus year with a ! Is still very common.
1D10@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 52d
That's cause people think changing the password all the time is safer, all it does is force people to choose the easiest password or write them on a piece of tape under the mouse mat.
IsoKiero@sopuli.xyz · 4 pts · 52d
I'm an IT guy and we have mandatory password changes. I just increment the numbers on my password every time since it (at least for now) is sufficient for our ruleset. I assume that majority of our users does something similar.
slazer2au@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 52d
I am glad NIST says if it's protected by MFA you don't have to reset passwords.
Zwuzelmaus@feddit.org · 1 pts · 51d
hakunawazo@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 52d
All I see if I type my password here is
*******EponymousBosh@awful.systems · 2 pts · 50d
That's weird, when I type it, it says "hunter2"
CannonFodder@lemmy.world · 24 pts · 52d
A whack to the head just puts people to sleep for a few minutes and then they carry on like normal.
chris@l.roofo.cc · 24 pts · 52d
Defibrillators. They don't start a heart that is stopped. They stop arrhytmias and give the body a chance to return to a normal rhythm.
FinjaminPoach@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 52d
Oh man! I never knew
impairedimperator@lemmy.zip · 7 pts · 52d
Yeah, they're the heart version of "have you tried turning it off and back on again?"
chris@l.roofo.cc · 1 pts · 51d
Sometimes they don't even turn the heart back on. But that's still better than when the heart spasms uncontrollably. CPR and meds can then jump start the heart again.
Remember: 30 chest compressions to the beat of staying alive and then 2 breaths for resuscitation in repeat. Start this as soon as you find someone unconscious and not breathing. Pumping the heart as soon as possible is key.
impairedimperator@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 51d
I prefer using the beat of Queen's Another One Bites the Dust
chris@l.roofo.cc · 0 pts · 50d
Highway to hell works as well but might be a bit macabre.
fiendishplan@lemmy.world · 24 pts · 52d
How easy it is to twist someones neck to kill them.
FinjaminPoach@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 52d
Honestly an important reality check. I'd convinced myself it was super easy
Nemo@slrpnk.net · 23 pts · 52d
How often emotional vulnerability leads to positive outcomes.
FinjaminPoach@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 52d
So true, really common one, and that cuts to the heart of the "fakeness" that hollywood conveys in its movies
Aatube@kbin.melroy.org · 1 pts · 52d
sauce?
WoodScientist@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 52d
What exactly are you hoping for here?
Aatube@kbin.melroy.org · 3 pts · 52d
i don't believe in bottling-up emotions. it creates people whose unpredictability makes interactions with zem a quaking tightrope.
LovableSidekick@lemmy.world · 22 pts · 52d
How often real people have to go to the bathroom.
MIDItheKID@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 51d
This one is always hilarious. Like James Bond will be out on some mission for several days and I'll be like "damn, I wonder where he took a shit"
I feel like this is something left out of pretty much every survival video game. You have to figure out how to get food and water etc, but you never have to dig a hole to shit in. It is part of being alive.
ivanafterall@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 51d
I imagine the LOTR council scene, but they're all peeing behind trees.
"AND MY AXE!"
chunes@lemmy.world · 21 pts · 52d
How many physical injuries an action hero can sustain and still pull off demanding stunts.
blarghly@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 52d
Also, the hero getting injured, then goes to the hospital, recovers, and goes right back to his super cool action hero activities. Instead, they would at have a permanent limp or funky shoulder for the rest of their lives at the very least.
phoenixz@lemmy.ca · 10 pts · 52d
John wick would have spent the rat of his live as a semi vegetable in a bed
That is if he had survived in the first place, which nobody would have after about 5 minutes into any John wick movie
MonkeMischief@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 52d
... Especially not if you pissed off John Wick!
captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 51d
The first movie isn't that bad until, there's a scene where he's sideswiped by a Chevy Tahoe and just batted out of frame. That would not have left his skeleton intact.
ieGod@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 51d
Then there's Jackie Chan.
MIDItheKID@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 51d
Giving birth. In movies and TV shows it's always this sudden thing. Like "My water broke! The baby is coming!" then there is some pushing and screaming and bam, baby. In reality, having a baby takes many many hours and often times days, even with induced labor.
FinjaminPoach@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 51d
Yeah
MojoMcJojo@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 52d
How heavy a full cup of coffee feels. The actors always treat it like the cup is empty. Liars!
schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works · 13 pts · 51d
This goes for ANY container. I mostly notice empty suitcases.
meathorse@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 52d
Gear changes in cars. Any car racing or high speed chase these cars are always accelerating and changing through endless gears despite being on a long straight.
Except Ronin, Ronin does it well since the chase is in the city and they're always slowing to avoid objects turn down alleyways etc so going through the gears over and over actually makes sense!
anon_8675309@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 51d
Ronin is still the best car chase scene of any movie.
Griffus@lemmy.zip · 18 pts · 52d
History
VitoRobles@lemmy.today · 9 pts · 51d
Movies sane-washing racist/problematic people "for the story" always drives me crazy.
P.T. Barnum for example.
SelfHigh5@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 52d
Memory loss/amnesia. It works as a plot device but how often it shows up in media makes it seem like, well that’s what happens when you get bonked on the head. Amnesia is actually pretty rare.
CPR/shocking: I was so grateful that Dr. Robby called this out on The Pitt, you can’t shock asystole (flatline). Well, you can but it’s good for fuck all. I get why CPR is done poorly, if you do it for real you’re probably gonna break ribs. But they could do it as fast as it’s supposed to go at least. The dramatic pushes 3 seconds apart is also good for fuck all.
iamericandre@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 52d
I think familial relationships are often romanticized in movies. I always see siblings act like they are best friends with each other and in my reality my brother and I are just two people. We like each other but I wouldn’t say he’s my best friend and I don’t think he would say it either.
davidagain@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 52d
On the other hand, my brother and sister are two of the best people in the world, and we get together as a big family with all the kids absolutely every school holiday. Some families are close. We don't always agree on everything, but we always get along well.
Okokimup@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 52d
My brother and I are bffs but we don't refer to each other as bro or sis. I hate that trope.
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 51d
I'll say "bro" to my brother in the same way I'd say it to friends.
"Sis" on the other hand, I'm convinced only exists in movies and porn
cattywampas@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 52d
It's not an absolute rule but plenty of families are like this.
FinjaminPoach@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 52d
Yes, also hollywood portrays friends and family as cussing each other off and being really pissy with each other because "nothing mean that we say is lasting or counts as an insult because we already have emotional invulnerability to one another" - it is not like this AT ALL in real life. The people who can hurt you most are the ones closest to you, and i think that this is an example where real life has been imitating the art too much - people are much more emotionally abusive of one another than before, taking banter much too far.
MonkeMischief@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 52d
Man no kidding. Sitcoms! People just quipping at one another and taking it in stride, still being best buddies while mocking each other's (usually one-note) shortcomings.
Try that with 99% of people in real life and chances are it'll just get you in deep doo-doo. People can be shockingly sensitive even over small things.
MelonYellow@lemmy.ca · 18 pts · 52d
Injections always annoy me. Shanking people in the neck with ridiculously fat needles. Or how bout Pulp Fiction where they stab her through the sternum? Also going in the arm, but the angle’s totally wrong and they’d basically be stabbing right through the vein lol
CannonFodder@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 52d
In pulp fiction it's an adrenaline shot directly to her heart. It is actually a legit medical treatment, but pretty rare / last resort.
FinjaminPoach@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 52d
Lol, i didn't think about it until now, but that doesn't make sense you're right.
Yes i don't think laypeople know how much care has to be taken with injections
sixtoe@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 17 pts · 52d
The message in films that police, law, and the military are protectors and heroes instead of "every soldier, cop, and bureaucrat are complicit if not actively engaged and fully believing fascists."
Waldelfe@feddit.org · 5 pts · 52d
Movies get a lot of support from those institutions as long as they portray them in a positive light. The US military has an office in Hollywood to ensure cooperation.
radiofreebc@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 51d
The good guy winning.
YeahIgotskills2@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 52d
Getting knocked out. Its super-bad for you.
FinjaminPoach@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 52d
Yep heard of this one! It's pretty f-ed up that people are going out looking for fights thinking that thwre's no harm in them or themselves getting a concussion
mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works · 7 pts · 52d
I think a lot of it stems from the fact that we really didn't know how bad concussions were until about 40-50 years ago
Prathas@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 52d
That's... still plenty of time to go around... What's even being taught in schools? I didn't learn about the risk of concussions until through the Internet after I graduated...
ripcord@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 52d
Also virtually one one is incapacitated from a single punch or kick.
LovableSidekick@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 52d
When people wake up after sex they usually have their underwear on again.
stretch2m@infosec.pub · 10 pts · 52d
Or they wake up and make out like their breath doesn't smell like ass.
__Lost__@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 52d
If you're horny enough that can be ignored
SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca · 9 pts · 52d
Or they have the blankets configured in an L shape so you see the man's chest, but not the woman's chest.
Thaurin@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 52d
People getting shot or killed. In reality, they don’t die instantly. They will act more surprised, then the panic sets in as they realise what happened and the pain sets in. They will cry for help as they slowly bleed out. It will take minutes. But that doesn’t look good on the screen. Some movies did parody this.
gramie@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 49d
That makes me think of Peter Sellers' in-movie scene at the beginning of The Party. I love this movie when I was a kid, but I suspect that an English comedian in brownface playing an Indian would not go over so well these days.
AmyAye@nord.pub · 16 pts · 52d
One I read about once.
Bonking people over the head to knock them out.
If you manage to hit them hard enough to actually put them out like that, they are likely bleeding internally and going to die without immidiate hospital care. Maybe even die anyway.
FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca · 7 pts · 52d
So, if Tangled were realistic, Rapunzel accidentally murdered the first person she ever met besides Gothel
ripcord@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 52d
I mean, this would be true of half of all cartoons and action movies, easily
MonkeMischief@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 52d
I honestly would love to change reality to where people could just be knocked out to be subdued, like in movies.
I dunno, people are gonna be all sneaky and clandestine anyway, it'd be cool if outright murder wasn't the only way to get past a determined guard or whomever.
WereHacker@lemmy.ml · 15 pts · 52d
Poor people living in condos.
scytale@piefed.zip · 14 pts · 52d
Horror/suspense movies where the character slowly turns their head to see what's behind them. A normal person would whip their head around pretty quickly if they feel/hear something scary.
kbal@fedia.io · 14 pts · 52d
I find that they too often exaggerate the wisdom of following the orders of the bad guy. Like, if they say "drop your weapon or I shoot the hostage" okay sure, maybe consider dropping your weapon, depending on circumstances. If it's "give me the MacGuffin I need to release the neurotoxin and kill fifty million people or I shoot the hostage" maybe don't do that.
phoenixz@lemmy.ca · 5 pts · 52d
Sure, okay, i will because i don't get basic arithmetics...
kbal@fedia.io · 3 pts · 52d
I prefer a more deontological approach. Don't do bad things, even if they threaten you.
noxypaws@pawb.social · 13 pts · 52d
graphical user interfaces making sounds
SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca · 5 pts · 52d
Also screens that project whatever is being displayed onto the face of the person.
Though I give a pass to Jurassic Park when the DNA code was being projected onto the velociraptor. Rule of cool, so I'll allow it.
shawn1122@sh.itjust.works · 13 pts · 51d
CPR
areakode@riskeratspizza.com · 3 pts · 51d
Yes! CPR will keep you alive long enough for the defribullator to stop your heart.
SaraTonin@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 51d
Also, it’s not even vaguely gentle. Broken ribs are extremely common
zxqwas@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 52d
When you get hit by a gun you don't go flying.
ReginaPhalange@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 52d
Bye, miss Laura.
AzuranAurora@piefed.ca · 11 pts · 52d
Any time a car or other vehicle is involved in an accident, it erupts in a massive explosion or fireball. If every car did that IRL, the fire department would never be out of a job knowing how they hand out licenses like candy.
SelfHigh5@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 52d
When I was 16 I swerved to miss a recliner in the roadway (yeah you read that right) and ended up careening off the road down an embankment. As soon as I was stopped at the bottom, I was convinced I had to clear the area because obviously the car was about to explode. It did not. So anyway that was my first and worst car accident. Why there was a recliner in the roadway is a mystery I will never solve.
janus2@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 51d
there is a large overlap in the Venn diagram of people who wouldn't notice if an entire ass recliner fell out of their pickup truck and people who fail to properly secure cargo in their pickup truck
SelfHigh5@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 51d
True true… but it was situated like, fully reclined. One idea was that knuckleheads placed it there as a prank, bro. But the other, probably more reasonable, is your idea.
janus2@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 50d
I wouldn't be surprised if it flopped open like a book upon hitting the pavement
I also wouldn't be surprised if knuckleheads placed it there like that
Hossenfeffer@feddit.uk · 11 pts · 52d
Coffee cups and suitcases.
LovableSidekick@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 52d
and bags of groceries
TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 51d
In anti-authoritarian movies, they don't go beyond what happens after the revolution or "the day after" as Slavoj Zizek always say. Unfortunately in real life, post-revolutions do not always lead to a happy ending. Just ask most of post-colonial states. Only a handful succeed and become prosperous and secure.
FinjaminPoach@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 51d
This is a notable fact! Again, inaccurate movies will push viewers into making bad choices.
One of my favourite games ever, The Life and Suffering of Sir Brante, talks about this a lot. It's a choose-your-own-adventure and no matter what end goals you focus on you will have to make many choices that sacrifice your own character's happiness, or that of their family, in some way, just to make sure that you don't get a "bad ending" where your faction loses during the revolt at the end of the game.
I'm thinking about it a lot because it's sequel comes out soon.
Two TV shows which manage to accurately convey revolutionary failure are Andor and Deutschland 83
Lor@mander.xyz · 9 pts · 51d
The fight scenes, most people would die. In the movies they walk away.
jpreston2005@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 51d
How comfortable people are dragging their nice clothes/long coats/shoes into water and mud. How many times you see a woman in a period piece with this long flowing dress, traipsing through a big muddy area and not even attempting to hold her dress up out of it. like, c'mon, man. People in movies just don't care about having wet socks I guess.
captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 51d
There's a Youtuber named Bernadette Banner who does a lot of antique style sewing and fashion and such. She made a replica of the white dress Mary Poppins wears in the cartoon segment of the movie. At the end of the video, she frolicked in the park in it. The next video was the 3 day process of period accurate washing it. She followed a manual written back in the day, and omitted the gasoline(!) the detergent recipe called for.
Sybilvane@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 51d
Not to mention that for period pieces especially that's probably one of only like three dresses/pants they own, if they're relatively well-off.
HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club · 9 pts · 52d
How long things take.
notsosure@sh.itjust.works · 8 pts · 52d
The truth. All movies are Hollywood-, make-believe fairytales. Took me ages to find out that even documentaries only a show a particular glimpse of reality.
TribblesBestFriend@startrek.website · 7 pts · 52d
Cinema is the art of lie. However some documentary can create shit that permeates truth.
Edit: shit should be shot, but yeah it work
RBWells@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 52d
People drinking in situations where nobody would be drinking.
And, obviously, running faster than explosions.
tal@lemmy.today · 9 pts · 52d
A lot of explosions in movies are, as I understand it, gasoline explosions (which produce a deflagration). Those are impressive and very visible and orangy and don't actually create all that much pressure, so damage from the pressure wave or shrapnel isn't so much a thing. You can do the stoic walk out of an explosion thing.
I think that the video of the Beirut explosion, which is large and filmed from a distance, so you can see the shockwave traveling over time, drives home how there is a lot of force going on in the air.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNDhIGR-83w
hakunawazo@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 52d
You just need to ignore explosions like that
If you look at them, they will hurt you (a bit)
undefined@lemmy.hogru.ch · 2 pts · 52d
I’ve read that drinking is often used to communicate depression or stress to viewers. I always found it odd that everyone has a bar in their house so I started thinking about it more and did some reading.
stolig@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 52d
There’s music in the background and nobody hears it
1D10@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 52d
Between tenitise and auditory hallucinations a lot of my life dose have a background sound track, it's normally just a little to low to make out the song.
MuttMutt@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 51d
Firearms in general.
Supressors as well. If two guys were walking through an airport shooting at each other everyone would still know it. Also a suppressor has a pop on the first shot.
If you have your firearm knowledge from movies and TV you don't know anything except what Hollywood wants you to think.
IphtashuFitz@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 51d
Guy gets shot and the impact sends him flying across the room, out the window, etc. Physics says “oh hell no”. The guy who fired that shot would have likely had his arm dislocated from the recoil if he was able to even hold onto it.
oopsgodisdeadmybad@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 51d
Yeah, I saw John Wick 2 as well.
yermaw@sh.itjust.works · 7 pts · 50d
Hacking/computer programming. They type wildly fast while shouting things.
Most of it looks like this but infront of a monitor, scrolling the wheel occasionally.
SethranKada@lemmy.ca · 7 pts · 52d
I can't stand how movies and TV shows depict people. Nobody talks like that in real life, or walks like that. They don't make those facial expresions, or say those words. It just makes them deeply unnerving for me. Its weird, because other people either don't notice it at all or even prefer it for some reason.
FinjaminPoach@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 52d
This is precisely what i was thinking of when i made this post!
I've known people who do put-on the "romcom/sitcom protsgonist persona" which you describe - overly bubbly, intonating words wrong, corporate speak - and long story short, they're always untrustworthy.
janus2@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 51d
I've noticed a distinct lack of realism in scriptwriting. Cinematographers seem to have tried realism in just about every aspect except characters' speech.
Obviously real dialogue has limitations like stuttering, mispronouncing, forgetting/saying the wrong word, talking over each other, etc. but I feel like there are other traits of natural conversation that could be worked in without fully compromising comprehensibility
The only examples I know of that attempt speech realism are Primer and United 93
THE_GR8_MIKE@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 52d
Driving and video games. Separate. Not driving IN video games lol
stsquad@lemmy.ml · 9 pts · 52d
I dunno I get upset about how long people face each other talking while one of them is allegedly in control of the vehicle. Don't get me started on seat belts and head rests!
forbiddencherry@lemmy.today · 6 pts · 52d
Happy endings. Although I like them anyway, because I'm trying to escape from reality a bit by watching.
5too@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 52d
You can have a happy ending! Just wait until a nice moment, and declare it's the end!
Anything happening after is a separate story :D
forbiddencherry@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 52d
True! I sorta did that with The Matrix. I read reviews for the second movie and multiple people were regretfully saying they wished they had stopped at #1. So I've never seen any of the sequels.
mysticpickle@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 52d
You just gotta make sure you do the appropriate hands gesture and offer a big tip :>
captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 51d
When is the last time you saw someone in a movie hotwire a car?
According to every movie I've seen, the way it's done is you reach under the steering wheel and yank down a panel that is apparently velcroed on. A bunch of loose wires dump out, including two wires conveniently in front whose ends are conveniently stripped and tinned. You grab these two wires and strike them against each other like flint and steel. This apparently switches on the vehicle's electrical and ignition systems, disengages the steering lock and engages the starter motor.
Funnily enough you actually could hotwire a plane like that; because of how magnetos work, turning the ignition systems on is accomplished by disconnecting a couple wires.
EponymousBosh@awful.systems · 3 pts · 50d
Basically everything and anything to do with mental health/psychology. People with Dissociative Identity Disorder (or "Multiple Personality Disorder" as it used to be known) do not have "evil" alters. DID is also not the same thing as schizophrenia. OCD is often not focused on hygiene or cleanliness. Antidepressants aren't "happy pills," and while emotional blunting is a possible side effect (not the entire point of taking the medication!), it's often a sign that you're on the wrong dose or the wrong medication. People don't typically self-harm because they're suicidal. Eating disorders don't always have a focus on body image and anyone of any body size can be affected. There's no singular mental illness that causes people to be abusive or violent, and mentally ill people are more likely to be victims of violence than perpetrators. Etcetera.
FinjaminPoach@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 50d
Awesome breakdown! You seem to know a lot about the topic so in your words, (or with a source of your choice) would you mind explaining how DID tends to manifest/how it could better be depicted in movies and television?
EponymousBosh@awful.systems · 0 pts · 49d
Well, I don't have DID, but from what I understand, alters are just people? They might hold some traumatic memories and experiences, but they're not like...serial killers. I recommend looking up stuff written by people with DID if you're curious.
echodot@feddit.uk · 2 pts · 50d
Usually bad guys with guns can actually aim those guns. Or at least if they can't the fact that there's 50 of them means that eventually one of them will hit you.
matthurtme@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 50d
Pretty much everything
ironchico@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 50d
The “American hero” trope. No such thing.
CombatWombat@feddit.online · 1 pts · 52d
Most dishonest about? The existence of superpowers, probably. People can't fly in real life, or summon hammers, or shoot webs from their wrists.
Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 52d
See, to me this sounds like calling someone dishonest for claiming they "had their head in the clouds." Oh, what's that, your head wasn't actually a mile in the air? You god damn liar.
It's not dishonesty when everyone understands the meaning. If you present an intentional fantasy, the audience knows it's a fantasy. Everyone is in on it.
CombatWombat@feddit.online · 2 pts · 52d
I was trusting this same mutual understanding that sometimes you say things you don't really mean to guide people to understand that I did not mean what I said literally. All movie tropes, like romance tropes and hacking shenanigans, rely on this same contract.
Strider@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 50d
Your (US) military: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military%E2%80%93entertainment_complex
FinjaminPoach@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 50d
Yeah i've heard ab9utthat. Quite funny. I suppose there are some arguments to be made in favour of it