Badge of Honor

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tanisnikana@lemmy.world · 89 pts · 10d (52 replies)

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db2@lemmy.world · 53 pts · 10d (19 replies)

Can I be in it too? ๐Ÿฅบ๐Ÿ‘‰๐Ÿ‘ˆ

BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world · 66 pts · 10d (18 replies)

Your wish is granted. โค๏ธ๐Ÿณ๏ธโ€๐ŸŒˆ๐Ÿณ๏ธโ€โšง๏ธ

A screenshot of the block list showing db2 is in the universal user regex blocks.

panda_abyss@lemmy.ca · 55 pts · 10d (3 replies)

I am not on the list.

Thatโ€™s censorship.

Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 13 pts · 10d

Yeah fucking loosers ๐Ÿ˜ฃ

jballs@sh.itjust.works · 9 pts · 10d

No results found for "jballs".

This is an outrage!

Pelicanen@fedia.io · 6 pts · 10d

I'm not in the list either, this is bullshit.

db2@lemmy.world · 39 pts · 10d (1 reply)

popekingjoe@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 10d

Congratulations buddy! ๐Ÿฅณ

VoteNixon2016@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 18 pts · 10d (8 replies)

Time to claim the db1 username

BlueOysterCultist@lemmy.zip · 10 pts · 10d (7 replies)

I wonder why heโ€™s forward and backward matching regex for some, but not others

Seems so disordered

LeFrog@discuss.tchncs.de · 18 pts · 10d (5 replies)

And sometimes using the "end-of-string-token" $, sometimes not. TF they doing over there?

derek@infosec.pub · 14 pts · 10d

Using an LLM I'd wager.

Dultas@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 10d

Don't get me started on the indentions.

ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org · 4 pts · 10d (2 replies)

They want to catch anyone associated with the anarchist db0 (Divide by Zero) instance: lemmy.dbzer0.com

4am@lemmy.zip · 6 pts · 10d

Oh itโ€™s way more than just that.

thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 9d

ai

ggtdbz@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 13 pts · 10d

Iโ€™m on the list? Thatโ€™s so fucking funny Iโ€™m just some random user. Amazing

MrKoyun@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 10d

First time I've seen copyparty in the wild!!!

deacon@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 10d

I need to step up my game.

Pistachio@lemmy.zip · 22 pts · 10d (29 replies)

How do i find this knowledge! I need a list of people to follow lol

TheStaffmaster@lemmy.world · 29 pts · 10d (28 replies)

https://copyparty.adrian.place/u/?doc=policy.json

you can ctrl+f and type in your username to see if you qualify.

Cris_Citrus@piefed.zip · 18 pts · 10d (20 replies)

Devastating ๐Ÿ˜ญ

Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works · 15 pts · 10d (11 replies)

We gotta step it up I guess

Cris_Citrus@piefed.zip · 21 pts · 10d (10 replies)

Clearly ๐Ÿ˜ญ

Hey @AdmiralPatrick@dubvee.org, you're a stupid dingleberry and I don't like your face. Add me to your shadowban list you wretched cat fondler. Those cats don't deserve what you've done to them.

Think that'd do it?

Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 10d

If it doesn't he's a big dope, and a boil on the left testicle of the Internet. Those cats ought to piss on his bed.

snoons@lemmy.ca · 5 pts · 10d (4 replies)

You need to tell them they're a turd too. Sprinkle in some "perchance" 's while you're at it.

TrickDacy@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 10d

Perchance..?

Maiq@piefed.zip · 5 pts · 10d

You mean man who tried to stick rubber fist up ma anus is teseract developer?

A_Very_Big_Fan@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 9d (1 reply)

wretched cat fondler

That's a banger

Cris_Citrus@piefed.zip · 2 pts · 8d

Thank you, I appreciate it ๐Ÿ˜Œ

jdr@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 10d

That he only fondles wretched cats, that's kinda based.

TheStaffmaster@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 10d (7 replies)

what this looks like is a PieFed shadowban. I find this funny as I'm not even using PieFed. I was shopping around for an android mobile app, but I guess that one is off the table now, eh?

Cris_Citrus@piefed.zip · 6 pts · 10d (6 replies)

I'm not sure I follow what you mean. I was joking that I'm sad because I'm not on the list, could you help me follow what you're saying?

TheStaffmaster@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 10d (5 replies)

Just adding context. I am on the list, but I don't use PieFed? so like, ok?

Cris_Citrus@piefed.zip · 4 pts · 10d

My understanding is that the list is for having political opinions the guy who runs the project doesnt like (or just doing anything that displeases him I guess), moreso than whether you use lemmy or piefed

The project is for a front end, similar to photon, so just a different web interface that an instance maintainer can use as the ui for their lemmy or piefed instance

(Sorry if I'm explaining stuff you already know, I can't tell if I'm dumb and misunderstanding you, or if you misunderstood something about the situation, and finding the dropped thread in online communication is hard so I'm just trying to explain what I know in case it makes it more clear where the breakdown is. Apologies if it comes across as condescending, thats not what I'm going for :)

Naich@piefed.world · 7 pts · 10d

Yes! Get in! I'm on it! I'm one of the cool kids!

kbobabob@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 6 pts · 10d

They are filtering the entire dbzer0 domain and I still made the list.

RobotToaster@mander.xyz · 4 pts · 10d

Even I'm on there lmao.

Rakonat@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 10d

Damn, I gotta try harder, didn't make the woke cut.

Cris_Citrus@piefed.zip · 2 pts · 10d (2 replies)

Hey, I shared this link in another thread so someone could check if they were on the list and then looked up what copyparty is- it looks like its self hosted so if you'd like me to remove the link please lemme know, I don't wanna generate more traffic than you'd like to be getting if that causes problems

TheStaffmaster@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 10d (1 reply)

just trying to help people cross check. I get the vibe though. If someone could mirror it, that would be useful.

Dultas@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 10d

Could just post it in a fresh github repo.

VoteNixon2016@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 9 pts · 10d

This is the closest I've ever been to someone famous!

M137@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 10d

I'm there! ๐Ÿ’ช

lemonskate@lemmy.world · 63 pts · 10d (9 replies)

I've made less than 50 comments on Lemmy and none were very popular and yet I made the list? Maybe some kinda keyword thing. Strange.

snoons@lemmy.ca · 14 pts · 10d (3 replies)

Yep, there are keywords. Perchance did you say "perchance"? Or "turd"?

not_IO@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 6 pts · 10d (1 reply)

turd ๐Ÿคฃ the turd thing is do funny. noone says that anymore, we should bring it back

snoons@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 10d

Sure, whatever turd. Ydy.

^/j^

binarytobis@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 9d
Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 9 pts · 10d

You lucky bastard!

TrickDacy@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 10d (2 replies)

Yeah the list to me seems arbitrary enough that it seems like this idiot largely used ai to make it

FiniteBanjo@feddit.online · 4 pts · 10d (1 reply)

Would explain how I'm somehow not on it.

EDIT: I think the list doesn't apply to any piefed content?

aaaa@piefed.world · 2 pts · 10d

I'm on the regex list, presumably because I switched from Lemmy.world to piefed.world a year ago

agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 9d

I've made over 7000, some with hundreds of votes, and I didn't make the list. This is bullshit

nutbutter@discuss.tchncs.de · 56 pts · 10d (3 replies)

Yay?

VoteNixon2016@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 43 pts · 10d (2 replies)

It was all your moth posts that got you on The List

Chee_Koala@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 10d

They should have known it was a risk. The moth checks out.

sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 6 pts · 10d

... looks like Admiral Patrick needs to be shown the light.

Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it · 55 pts · 10d

Nooo i am not on there ๐Ÿ’”

But at least i discovered that we axolotls have a queen

She doesn't even have any interaction on lemmy tho

cinoreus@lemmy.world · 53 pts · 10d (33 replies)

What's even left on lemmy if you block everything left leaning? Might as well not come to this place

nil@piefed.ca · 39 pts · 10d (3 replies)

There will be no one left

ChocolateFrostedSugarBombs@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 10d

HA!

ivanafterall@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 9d (1 reply)

Idk that sounds all right.

Taleya@aussie.zone · 1 pts · 9d

That's the plan!

sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 11 pts · 10d (27 replies)

Well, lemmy.world is what remains.

...may I strongly encourage you to join a different instance?

cinoreus@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 10d (26 replies)

Firstly, I was talking on their behalf.

Secondly even lemmy.world is kinda left leaning

TrickDacy@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 10d

"it's not left unless it's strictly my definition of left"

sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 13 pts · 10d (6 replies)

Lemmy.world's mod/admin team has a very well documented history of being heavily biased in the direction of genocidal Zionists, blatant double standards when it comes to things like ICE (illegal state sponsored terrorism) vs non state sponsored terrorism.

And they're just needlessly petty.

Literally Stamets used to be part of that team, discovered the extent of that bullshit personally... an LW mod had a hissy fit over Canadian terminology and government procedure... and decided to start ban hammering people over it.

Stamets is Canadian, the other mod is not... and Stam tried to explain to that mod that they were mistaken, confused.

They instead doubled down, it blew up into a similar popcorn level event... Stamets left LW, and now he is on this stealth block list.

The LW team have no problem being duplicitous and covert in enforcement over their little fiefdoms, and the defense of their own egos.

Again, I implore you to leave.

Also, no, the actual people that run LW? They're liberals, neoliberals. Liberalism is not leftism. Go do some first year Poli Sci reading if you need an explanation, I'm tired.

BigDiction@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 10d (5 replies)

I think OP understands there is space to the left of US democrats, and the discourse tends to be โ€œKinda leftโ€ by commonly understood definition.

Also some of us enjoy a lot of non-political content, and World is fine for that.

sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 10d (4 replies)

I don't. I don't think they know that.

I don't think you do either.

Leftism can be cleanly seperated from Liberalism in this way:

Leftists want to abolish capitalism, change it so much that it's not capitalism any more.

Liberals think capitalism is... a good person, but just, misunderstood.

Also, if I just told you that the LW admin/mod team is... consistently defending genociders, and state sponsored terrorism?

And you say... well I am apolitical, so that's fine?

You are not apolitical, you are in fact explcitly fine with those horrible things, you are saying they don't bother you that much.

... there are plenty of non political communities and discussion on... all of the banned instances, many others too.

But no, no, you're fine with the genocide supporting one.

Ok then.

Taleya@aussie.zone · 1 pts · 9d

Thats an incredibly American summary for a global platform

thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 0 pts · 9d (2 replies)

not all leftists oppose capitalism tho

many further left ones (such as myself) do, but some milder leftists dont (many socialists and center-leftists)

A404@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 9d

Am confused. doesnt the left start at anti-capitalism?

luciferofastora@feddit.org · 1 pts · 9d

The person you're talking to operates on a different definition of leftists that explicitly requires them to be anticapitalist. Given how common that phenomenon is, and how we can't ever seem to agree on any other points, I propose a new definition of Leftist:

A leftist is someone who argues about what is and isn't leftist.

The implication of that definition, of course, is that the right wing talking heads calling every form of human decency "communism" are also leftists.

(Actually, do dbzer0 users even see this comment? They defederated us because our admins also failed their purity test. No animosity from my side, for whatever that's worth.)

spicehoarder@lemmy.zip · 0 pts · 10d

Let me start by saying this is is just an observation, not directed specifically at you.

But, this is the issue with left vs right politics. It's not that you're not "left enough" it's that you're practically on different planets arguing which way is West. Both of you orient towards north, and then walk to the left, but you're never going to meet up. And that's because you're not even on the same planet. Your foundations for what basic human rights are is fundamentally different.

A capitalist will say "everyone deserves the house they can afford", while a communist will say "everyone deserves a house."

.world from my observation has been very capitalist, and yeah, that tracks considering it's kinda like the "reddit instance" its comfortable for a lot of people. But I personally would never join as a member, for as many issues as .ml and dbzer0 have, I prefer to broaden my viewpoints than to keep seeing the same capitalist viewpoints repeated over and over again.

FiniteBanjo@feddit.online · -1 pts · 10d (16 replies)

lemmy.world is more left than the Tankie Triad but it's still funding them so I say leave the entirety of Lemmy behind and go piefed.

Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it · 5 pts · 10d (2 replies)

Piefed doesn't look that better tbh

FiniteBanjo@feddit.online · 0 pts · 10d (1 reply)

Here is a LINK to a long list of citations of extremism, imperialism, and promotion of war, genocide, and violence by the head Lemmy developers and owners of Lemmy ML. People who host Lemmy have the moral responsibility to vet every update and remove all links to donate to Lemmy development or they're complicit in these crimes.

Until something irredeemably bad comes out about the Piefed devs, they're infinitely better.

Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it · 0 pts · 10d

Gotta look in mbin i guess...neither lemmy or piefed devs seem to be good people tbh

Seleni@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 10d (12 replies)

Wasnโ€™t Piefed adding code to block people from upvoting and downvoting too much? If theyโ€™re on Lemmy a lot they might not appreciate that kind of restriction, especially if they post a lot of content.

FiniteBanjo@feddit.online · 1 pts · 10d (11 replies)

I haven't seen anything of the sort, personally. A while back the larger Piefed instance was "shadowbanning" instances they don't promote, but instance owners are free to do as they wish.

There is an "upvote quota" but I've personally never hit it so I don't know what happens when you do, I kind of doubt a regular human could unless they made it their full time job.

Seleni@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 10d (10 replies)
FiniteBanjo@feddit.online · 2 pts · 10d

Yeah he's talking about the upvote quota. Everybody gets one, visible on the profile, resets daily.

FiniteBanjo@feddit.online · -1 pts · 10d

Tankies would be there, but actually Tankies maintain lemmy to begin with.. That's why I use piefed.

sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 44 pts · 10d (14 replies)

Also yuri.

They specifically blocked Wholsome Yuri.

And violet08.

Because I guess sexcapades are a bannable offense?

Yeah those are two oddballs that I've noticed so far.

khanh@lemmy.zip · 21 pts · 10d

lmao, they blocked violet ๐Ÿ˜ญ๐Ÿ˜ญ

basxto@discuss.tchncs.de · 19 pts · 10d (6 replies)

What? Why Yuri?

And โ€ฆ all the Violets?

sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 24 pts · 10d (4 replies)

Fortunately, another violet has blossomed... she's got a new account, is currently uh... apparently overwhelmed by the number of South Korean fuckbois she has to choose from.

captainlezbian@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 10d (1 reply)

sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 7 pts · 10d

Lol, extremely apropos, on point meme, haha!

basxto@discuss.tchncs.de · 7 pts · 10d (1 reply)

Seems (the new) did_you_find_violets is explicitly blocked. But yes, might not bother her that much right now

sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 7 pts · 10d

I mean really, it does kinda help to put this all into perspective.

This nonsense is all going on...

Violet likely has no idea, does not care, is memeing about herself as a lamb about to be devoured by wolves.

remon@ani.social · 7 pts · 10d

And โ€ฆ all the Violets?

There will always be more ...

Sabata11792@ani.social · 15 pts · 10d (2 replies)

Who blocks the purest form of love?

sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 10 pts · 10d (1 reply)

I really don't know.

Like... I'm not really even into Yuri... just too sappy for me 95% of the time...

...but yeah, I got nothing, no clue why that would need to be secretley banned, unless you just hate the idea of goobers in love.

emergencyfood@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 10d

Still malding about losing the space race.

Cranjis_McBasketball@piefed.world · 10 pts · 10d (1 reply)

There's just some weird stuff on that list. What'd Girls' Frontline do to this man-child? ๐Ÿ˜…

sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 7 pts · 10d

ยฏ\(ใƒ„)/ยฏ

tutter@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 7 pts · 9d

Only a trurly despicable coward could run from our degen queen violet08, the scarlet lady, the night mare, black Madonna, terrifier of decency, our moon empress lillith ๐Ÿ™

SailorFuzz@lemmy.world · 42 pts · 10d (1 reply)

HAHA scrubs, I'm in the Top 100

Reygle@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 10d

godsammitdam@lemmy.zip · 32 pts · 10d (1 reply)

You'll have my sword!

Reygle@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 10d

ONE OF US

Grail@multiverse.soulism.net · 28 pts · 10d (6 replies)

Dbzero says My instance is full of fake leftists, but Tesseract says we're dangerous anarchists. I don't know who to believe anymore!

TrickDacy@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 10d (2 replies)

I love how people are so into generalizing about instances.

captainlezbian@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 10d (1 reply)

Of course a .worlder would say that /s

TrickDacy@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 10d

So typical of a captian* account.

snoons@lemmy.ca · 6 pts · 10d (1 reply)

Obviously you're all part of a chaos cult.

Grail@multiverse.soulism.net · 4 pts · 10d

O dam based!

FiniteBanjo@feddit.online · 1 pts · 10d

Ngl DB0 seems pretty fake, to me. They've been caught hosting both tankies and white supremacists in the past.

rambling_lunatic@sh.itjust.works · 28 pts · 10d (6 replies)

Out of the loop, what is Tesseract?

EDIT: Apparently its a UI for Lemmy that decided to start hiding leftist posts secretly because the dev is a lib

Eggman@thelemmy.club · 10 pts · 10d

Alternative lemmy interface.

hansolo@lemmy.today · 10 pts · 10d (3 replies)

Hiding leftist posts? What else is left?

humorlessrepost@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 10d

ist

rambling_lunatic@sh.itjust.works · 9 pts · 10d (1 reply)

Beans

hansolo@lemmy.today · 4 pts · 9d

And Linux memes.

Taleya@aussie.zone · 10 pts · 9d

They hid overwhelmingly left wing, Queer, trans, pornographic...this aint a lib it's little bitch fash

Floodedwomb@lemmy.world · 25 pts · 10d (3 replies)

I'm a queer leftist and I didn't make the list ๐Ÿ˜ข

snoons@lemmy.ca · 21 pts · 10d (2 replies)

Should've just said "perchance" more.

thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 9d (1 reply)

and "๐Ÿฅบ๐Ÿ‘‰๐Ÿ‘ˆ"

snoons@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 9d

ย  ๐Ÿฅบย  ย  - ๐’ซ๐‘’๐“‡๐’ธ๐’ฝ๐’ถ๐“ƒ๐’ธ๐‘’? ย 
๐Ÿ‘‰๐Ÿ‘ˆ

DeathbringerThoctar@lemmy.world · 25 pts · 10d (1 reply)

I honestly don't know how I made it on the list. I mostly just lurk and occasionally post memes about my cats. I'll take it though, it's a badge of honour.

VoteNixon2016@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 14 pts · 10d

The developer must have lost an Alara prerelease to your namesake

Saapas@piefed.zip · 23 pts · 10d (3 replies)

Tessaract?

Grail@multiverse.soulism.net · 12 pts · 10d (1 reply)

It's a frontend client for Lemmy

FiniteBanjo@feddit.online · 2 pts · 10d

Maybe that's how I've dodged it, since it's only constrained to lemmy infighting?

UpperBroccoli@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 10d

Tesseract like you dont even know 'er

T00l_shed@lemmy.world · 22 pts · 10d (7 replies)

I dont think i am on the block list... I am genuinely upset

smh@slrpnk.net · 24 pts · 10d (6 replies)

You are! (if I'm reading my regex correctly)

"^T(o|0)(o|0)l_shed$",

T00l_shed@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 10d (4 replies)

Oh good! I did see that but I wasn't sure if it was actually me! I appreciate you confirming!

basxto@discuss.tchncs.de · 10 pts · 10d

Maybe we should build a haveIBeenBlocked

mathemachristian@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 8 pts · 10d (2 replies)

It's completely normal for them to be lopsided. I know some people a self-concious about that, but don't worry.

T00l_shed@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 10d (1 reply)

You mean they arent supposed to smash into eachother when I walk???

smh@slrpnk.net · 2 pts · 8d

Sounds like you need a better bra :p

pupbiru@aussie.zone · 2 pts · 8d

that regex annoys me more than it reasonably should

(o|O){2}

OhStopYellingAtMe@lemmy.world · 21 pts · 10d (6 replies)

I feel like Iโ€™m missing a key piece of information here. Wtf is โ€œtesseractโ€ in this context?

UPDATE: never mind. Other posts were more detailed. Apparently itโ€™s a Lemmy instance/front end? And the owner(s) compiled a huge block list by usernames.

I still donโ€™t know why it matters, whatโ€™s so special about tesseract.

mfed1122@discuss.tchncs.de · 22 pts · 10d (3 replies)

It matters because tesseract was/is used by some large instances, so the tesseract dev was secretly censoring content from thousands of users without their knowledge and even without the knowledge of the instance admins. It's a pretty big deal because this means that a lot of people on Lemmy have been getting a highly censored view of the community without realizing it. A lot of those people, probably even most of them, came to Lemmy specifically to get away from that kind of thing. So its really shady, a huge breach of trust, and this single dev has been covertly influencing thousands of people's political exposure.

Rhaedas@fedia.io · 8 pts · 10d

That's a great summary, and now so many of the posts complaining about how Lemmy didn't feel different than what they had come from suddenly could have been a red flag that no one understood. Maybe not, but sure seems a bit correlated.

thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 9d

it was only discovered because lemmy.dbzer0.com (6th biggest instance iirc) hosts tesseract and it itself is one of the blocked instances so nothing worked ("this instance is not compatible") and the admin, db0, did some digging

OhStopYellingAtMe@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 10d

I see. Thatโ€™s good to know. Thank you.

LwL@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 10d

A web frontend for lemmy that silently included a blacklist that blocked users for just about everything the dev didn't like.

https://lemmy.world/post/49778353

Taleya@aussie.zone · 1 pts · 9d

Imagine your email program (seamonkey, thunderbird, outlook, etc) decided you shouldn't get to see emails from black people any more. And never ever told you it made that decision.

They went to great lengths to obscure what they did, reporting it as an "error" rather than admitting to a shitlist - and only they got to decide who/what was shitlisted.

It was a covert attempt to control visible content on lemmy. THAT is why everyone is high hella pissed.

If they said they were doing a "normie safe" interface they woulda just rolled on. But they knew they wouldnt get as many users countenancing that shit so they shoved it in without consent.

Empricorn@feddit.nl · 20 pts · 10d (1 reply)

I'm so proud...

Reygle@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 10d

ONE OF US

eleefece@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 10d (2 replies)

Sad I didn't make to the list. I guess I got to up my "Perchance" and "Turd" game

Squirrelanna@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 5 pts · 10d

Don't forget to quote Kant

thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 9d

Perchance

MacNCheezus@lemmy.today · 18 pts · 10d (10 replies)

Iโ€™m neither left nor queer, why am I on there?

snoons@lemmy.ca · 21 pts · 10d (2 replies)

Maybe you said one of the naughty words on the list like "turd" or "communist" or "conservative".

*...Or "perchance".

MacNCheezus@lemmy.today · 7 pts · 10d (1 reply)

Well I certainly can't deny that I've ruffled some feathers in the past but I mean, that's what Lemmy's moderation system is for, right?

sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 9 pts · 10d

No, silly.

The moderation system is for them to abuse, and you to obey, duh!

... jfc goddamnit.

BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 10d (3 replies)
MacNCheezus@lemmy.today · 4 pts · 10d (2 replies)

I solemnly swear that I had nothing to do with that, so help me God.

Big_Boss_77@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 10d (1 reply)

Were you the father or the father?

MacNCheezus@lemmy.today · 4 pts · 10d

Man, I don't have any children and I barely even shop at Target, much less work there. I may be guilty of a lot of things but I swear this one wasn't on me.

Pissmidget@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 10d (2 replies)

Implying Lord Cheezus has Scottish origins?

MacNCheezus@lemmy.today · 5 pts · 10d (1 reply)

Perhaps my PFP is considered blasphemous, IDK

Pissmidget@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 10d

A physician serving macaroni? My word, how are you even allowed online?!

Verdorrterpunkt@feddit.org · 16 pts · 10d (2 replies)

I am not on there, and now feel left out :(

maltasoron@sopuli.xyz · 10 pts · 10d (1 reply)

Me neither :( We should make our own banlist, with blackjack and hookers.

BurntWits@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 10d

Can I join? Iโ€™m also not on the ban list.

zikzak025@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 10d

And here I guess I am just too milquetoast to make the cut. My takes are too tepid, my edge too dulled. Am I even trying?

captainlezbian@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 10d

At least I did something right. Was kinda surprised to find myself on it.

Fluke@feddit.uk · 15 pts · 9d

I'm on the list!

I'm a literal nobody... Man, I'm so proud right now.. ๐Ÿ˜

ivanafterall@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 9d (3 replies)

Oh, hell yeah:

hexabs@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 9d (2 replies)

Hmm, you're potatoo though

ivanafterall@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 9d (1 reply)

I think it only displays Potoooooooo some places (maybe only on .world?), but others still see the original name with which I created the account (ivanafterall).

boonhet@sopuli.xyz · 3 pts · 9d

Depends on client. Voyager always shows account name

robocall@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 10d

FistingEnthusiast@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 9d

I don't think I've had any dealings with him, but I am on the list

From what I gather, I should feel pretty pleased with that

Sirius006@sh.itjust.works · 13 pts · 10d (4 replies)

Ok so now I'm "right of Reagan" apparently. Great.

I hope my partner doesn't find out...

Squirrelanna@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 10 pts · 10d (2 replies)

Don't feel too bad, this is how I found out I'm no longer queer, left of Reagan OR a bottom ๐Ÿ˜ญ

TotallynotJessica@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 10 pts · 9d (1 reply)

our entire instance is banned, so we technically made the cut

Squirrelanna@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 8d

Talk about a consolation prize...

Taleya@aussie.zone · 3 pts · 9d

You may have just been lucky enough to avoid .ml or .world, or just a blahaj user

Holyginz@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 10d (5 replies)

Im out of the loop. What's tesseract?

MehBlah@lemmy.world · 25 pts · 10d (4 replies)

https://lemmy.world/post/49778547

Some asshat I've never heard of created a api with a bunch of hidden blacklists of instances and users. I wasn't in it and I'm kinda disappointed like many on lemmy. Seems like being on this dipshits shit lists is a nice place to be.

Holyginz@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 10d (1 reply)

Jesus christ, even in a decentralized space people are trying to censor things for others without their knowledge.

StarryPhoenix97@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 8d

In a place where most users showed from reddit, because we were sick of censorship no less.

This is egregious. A total breach of trust for new users.

An instance ban or mod action is one thing but hitting the API is just evil.

rmrf@lemmy.ml · -7 pts · 9d (1 reply)

Hidden is a strong word; it's a file named as such, in plain text, with a GUI button to disable it, and has a bunch of humor throughout. I'm not really sure what the big deal about it is honestly, I think it's hilarious and harmless

Edit: apparently I'm totally wrong and the version I saw was a decade fork, maybe? Not entirely sure but I'm sorry for spreading misinformation

thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 19 pts · 9d

not in plain text, it was base64+gzip encoded at the source url to thwart discovery

very not harmless, hidden political censorship is not harmless

and the dev is forcing it on server admins "users can disable the blocklist (if admins allow it), but there will be no server config option to have "toxic mode" (no blocklist mode) on by default"

Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works · 12 pts · 10d (5 replies)

How do you find the list?

VoteNixon2016@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 17 pts · 10d (4 replies)

Here ya go!

Someone archived it for us

Slovene85@sh.itjust.works · 12 pts · 10d (2 replies)

Yaaay, I'm on the list!

Reygle@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 10d

ONE OF US

Wataba@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 9d

My old accounts from ex-instances are on there too, neat.

Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 10d

Oh neat, I made the list.

DaGreenGobbo@feddit.uk · 12 pts · 10d (7 replies)

Well I woz gonna call me account "DaRedGobbo" but the git wot got dere first ain't even revolushunary enough ta get blocked by the blockiest load of blocks wot ever did block!! Paffetik!

osanna@lemmy.vg · 7 pts · 9d (5 replies)

Isโ€ฆ. Is that English?

gigastasio@sh.itjust.works · 7 pts · 9d

Itโ€™s the most English thing Iโ€™ve ever seen.

T00l_shed@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 9d (2 replies)

Oi, 'umie ov'r 'ere wut got a pro'lem wiv ork werds

DaGreenGobbo@feddit.uk · 5 pts · 9d (1 reply)

Oomies is only good for two fings: dyin', and leavin' us all dere stuff!

T00l_shed@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 9d

Fank, Mork an Gork fer dat

luciferofastora@feddit.org · 3 pts · 9d

It's Orkish

dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 8d

He gots dere first becuz da red wuns iz fasta.

luthis@lemmy.nz · 12 pts · 10d (6 replies)

Tesseract?

VoteNixon2016@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 33 pts · 10d (4 replies)

A Lemmy web UI that was fairly popular, turns out it had hardcoded lists to block users and instances the developer didn't like

sem@piefed.blahaj.zone · 10 pts · 10d (3 replies)

How did it get found out

4am@lemmy.zip · 26 pts · 10d

lol db0 was running it on his own instance and when he updated to the version with the secret blocklist his entire feed was blank, because his instance (dbzer0) was on the blocklist

Dude made a โ€œsecretโ€ blocklist that told on itself instantly

Not the sharpest lightbulb, is he? ๐Ÿคฃ

VoteNixon2016@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 19 pts · 10d

A lot of people who know more about what they're talking about have addressed it, there's an admin post on blahaj about it, and the first I ever saw was the dbzer0 post that seems to have triggered the (much deserved) avalanche

Anivia@feddit.org · 7 pts · 10d

People looked at the source code. Presumably because of you tried to post something that's blocked you just got an indescriptive error message, and they were trying to fix the "error" themselves

Kolanaki@pawb.social · 6 pts · 10d

It's a client/frontend for Lemmy.

osaerisxero@kbin.melroy.org · 12 pts · 10d (1 reply)

My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined.

Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 7 pts · 10d

Same, I'm not on the list either ๐Ÿ˜”

Tyrq@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 12 pts · 10d

I made it to the let's eat the rich list! Never been so proud

Sunflier@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 10d (10 replies)

Can someone gind me a tl;dr and/or ELI5? I don't even know what this "Tesseract" thing is in any context beyond the Marvel movies.

Daedskin@lemmy.zip · 27 pts · 10d (9 replies)

Tesseract was an alternative frontend instances could host. Despite having configuration options for filtering or the lack thereof, Tesseract would silently both download and enforce a custom filter; this hidden filter could not be overridden by any custom configuration. The hidden filter included regex to block keywords, users, and instances, showing a generic error about anything filtered as being "incompatible with Tesseract".

Sunflier@lemmy.world · -13 pts · 10d (8 replies)

alternative frontend instances could host.

I too can string random words together in a way that makes no sense. Watch:

Glamorous apples run zones for yarn waggons fungus times

See?

sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 23 pts · 10d

The words make sense.

If you don't understand them, try looking them up.

Software is complicated and technical. You not being able to understand the words used in the field does not make them nonsensical.

JayDee@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 10d (1 reply)

The frontend is the portion of a webserver you see. It's the website after the server has done processing everything it needs to in the background.

Instances in this case means a webserver which is apart of the fediverse, more specifically one that uses the lemmy API in this case.

So tldr, a lemmy server could use tesseract in its code to have a prettier website displayed for users.

Sunflier@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 10d

So tldr, a lemmy server could use tesseract in its code to have a prettier website displayed for users.

SethTaylor@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 10d (2 replies)

I can explain. He forgot to mention the quantum carburator and how it connects to the micronuclear transcoder

Sunflier@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 10d

Ooooh! I get it

thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 9d

and the chromatic attenuating quasi-filter

Passerby6497@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 10d

You know you can just define individual words to figure out what things mean, right? Like so:

Alternative: another option or substitute for the usual or original thing.

Frontend: the user-facing part of a website or application that people interact with.

Instances: separate running copies or deployments of a service or application.

Could: indicates possibility; something is able or potentially able to happen.

Host โ€” to run, provide, store, or make a service available on a server.

Taleya@aussie.zone · 1 pts · 8d

Dude. No. Don't ask for help and then pull that shit.

ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 9d

๐Ÿฅบ๐Ÿ‘‰๐Ÿ‘ˆ

Strider@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 10d (1 reply)

Sad to see I'm not on it.

But that got me thinking. Those of us who aren't on the list have at least one shot of posting something all will see, right? Could we utilize that? ๐Ÿ˜

Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 6 pts · 10d

Yeah who's the motherfucker to "upset" to get on the list?

thedeadwalking4242@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 9d (1 reply)

I'm on the list, does this guy just like, have a little black book of people he hates? Like has this guy been reading all my posts or something? Or did he use a LLM to make it

X@piefed.world · 8 pts · 9d

AFAIK itโ€™s just him reading othersโ€™ comments and when he sees ones he dislikes, he says, โ€œ>:โ€ข( Well, youโ€™re a poopyface, onto the Poopyface List with you!โ€

EonNShadow@pawb.social · 11 pts · 10d

But I only found two pawb.social floofs (by name)

Unfortunate, furries basically own the "๐Ÿฅบ๐Ÿ‘‰๐Ÿ‘ˆ" emoji sequence and are almost entirely some flavor of LGBT+

Even_Adder@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 10 pts · 10d

I didn't make the list, but they seemingly wrote code exclusively to interfere with one of the communities I moderate. I couldn't believe my eyes.

roomy@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 10d

I wanna be on the list!

don@lemmy.ca · 9 pts · 9d

๐Ÿค˜๐Ÿ˜† I made it on the list!

ZebulonP@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 10d (2 replies)

How does one end up on the list...asking for a friend.

Skullgrid@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 9d (1 reply)

You had to be cool enough when the time mattered, square.

Confused_Emus@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 8d

I'll never get to sit at the cool kids' table at lunch! ๐Ÿ˜ญ

RobotToaster@mander.xyz · 9 pts · 10d (1 reply)

I knew about the instance blocklist, but there was a user one aswell?

maltasoron@sopuli.xyz · 5 pts · 10d

Yeah, it's in the same file.

SourDragon@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 10d

Dragon taking notes on her observations of the comment section ๐Ÿ“œโœ๏ธ๐Ÿฒ "This explains nothing but screw context!"

switcheroo@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 10d

I feel I should be on this list. I don't like that I'm not.

gonta@mander.xyz · 8 pts · 10d

Unfortunately, all my lemmy accounts are not on the list, although, I do make a conscious effort to not engage with political issue here.

Kraiden@piefed.social · 7 pts · 10d

I'm honestly pretty sad I didn't make the list.

TrickDacy@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 10d

What you guys aren't going to beg to be removed, because you've "grown up"? I for one will be submitting my "please take me off your moronic list" plea, post-haste.

justme@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 7 pts · 10d (3 replies)

could somebody please enlighten an unaware?

Eggman@thelemmy.club · 7 pts · 10d (2 replies)
justme@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 10d (1 reply)

ah it's about a frontend. thank you. for me tesseract is an ocr toolbox ;)

thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 9d

its also a libre fps game apparently

JustEnoughDucks@feddit.nl · 6 pts · 10d (2 replies)

It seems as though codeberg and github were deleted or made private and their website is just a "go away" webp now so I can't search through the blocklist

AceFuzzLord@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 10d (1 reply)

IDK how to do it on windows, but this command should work if you have either linux or android with termux available:

curl -s https://tesseract.dubvee.orv/tesseract/api/system/policy | base64 -d | gunzip > policy.json

It worked for me just a few minutes ago, so it's not gone yet.

I also don't know how to do this on iOS/ipadOS, if it's even possible, but of macOS's terminal is anything like linux, the command should still work.

Edit:

Tried in termux and the

gunzip > policy.json

part was giving me an error I didn't even wanna bother trying to troubleshoot because I'm on a phone and don't wanna have to set up screen sharing on my desktop just to fix something inconsequential to me.

I also was dumb and got trapped accidentally by going into nano. Cannot figure out how to get out of it on mobile...

jaybone@lemmy.zip · 8 pts · 10d

Used to be people used nano because they couldnโ€™t get out of vi.

GoGo@zerobytes.monster · 6 pts · 9d (1 reply)

Nice list, also gettin auto updated from source of tesseract :D https://github.com/scriptzteam/tesserFuCk

pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 8d

Please Tesserack, I'm a socialist too

FUCKING_CUNO@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 6 pts · 10d (1 reply)

Can't handle that rabid cuno shit

sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 10d

agrees in virulent, nonsensical expletives and slurs

popekingjoe@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 10d

I guess I'm not left enough to be on this list, since I'm a cishet man. Oh well. Maybe one day. ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ

I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 10d (1 reply)

I always considered myself centrist, which by today's standards makes me a radical leftist. At some point the Overton Window flew past me and is now a far off speck in the distance. I'm surprised I was included to be honest. I often post things that have nuance, which always seems to piss actual radical leftists.

spicehoarder@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 10d

Based on your post history, I can only assume the maintainers of Tesseract are vampires.

ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net · 6 pts · 10d (4 replies)

https://github.com/asimons04/Tesseract - so it's gone? This is so weird. Was the dev building this as his personal UI or something and just decided to put his blocklist in the code? Because if not what was he expecting? It was obvious people will find out and just stop using it. Not a specific group of users will stop using it but everyone. So what's the point?

Edit: So this project was abandoned about a year ago. Looks like the creator had some issues. Why are people still using dead project? How was it discovered just now?

Quokka@quokk.au · 21 pts · 10d (3 replies)

It was last updated 2 weeks ago, dev deleted project within last 24 hours due to this backlash.

ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net · 15 pts · 10d (1 reply)

There are posts saying it was discontinued a year ago: https://jlai.lu/post/22505617

So he came back? Apparently that was the message he posted a year ago:

This project has been discontinued and the repo archived. I am done with Lemmy, the Fediverse as a whole, and have no desire to continue developing for the platform or (especially) the demographic thereof.

So many red flags. People really need to check what they are hosting.

Quokka@quokk.au · 23 pts · 10d

From what I understand @AdmiralPatrick@lemmy.world/@pzt@dubvee.org does the whole 'I'm quitting forever' thing every so often.

It was forked yesterday by db0 (to strip the censorship) here and you can see the commits made by the original dev 2 weeks ago.

TrickDacy@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 10d

dev deleted project within last 24 hours due to this backlash.

Haha! What a little bitch

obre@slrpnk.net · 5 pts · 10d (1 reply)

What does it mean if I'm on the userRegexes list but not the users list?

Egonallanon@feddit.uk · 8 pts · 10d

That they assume you have alt accounts on other servers so made a regex to catch them.

LittleBorat3@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 9d

What is going to be blocked, where is this thing running? Does it need to be installed on your instance

X@piefed.world · 4 pts · 9d

This account doesnโ€™t seem to be on the list, but Iโ€™m fairly sure an alt might be. Soโ€ฆ hooray, maybe.

renzhexiangjiao@piefed.blahaj.zone · 4 pts · 10d (2 replies)

I didn't make it :(

snoons@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 10d (1 reply)

"Perchance" you need to say "turd" more often.

UpperBroccoli@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 10d

๐Ÿฅบ?๐Ÿ‘‰๐Ÿ‘ˆ

Rothe@piefed.social · 4 pts · 10d

My sh.itjust.works account from before I switched to piefed is on the list, but my current account isn't. Curious.

dream_weasel@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 10d (1 reply)

Wait, it's gone?! How can I check if I got invited now?! I picked the wrong week to be away from a pc, I guess.

db2@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 10d

zebidiah@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 10d

no i feel like i'm just not trying hard enough :(

BewareOfIdiot@nord.pub · 3 pts · 10d (1 reply)

What is Tesseract?

Eggman@thelemmy.club · 6 pts · 10d

Alternative lemmy interface.

FeatherConstrictor@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 9d

Damn I didnt make it :(

Pissmidget@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 10d
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mtpender@piefed.social · 2 pts · 10d (3 replies)

How do I search it for myself?

Passerby6497@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 10d (2 replies)

bazzite:$ cat policy.json | grep mtpender
bazzite:
$

Looks like you didn't get added to the invite list โ˜น๏ธ, try harder and maybe next time they'll let you in

emergencyfood@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 10d (1 reply)
Passerby6497@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 10d

I may remember that one of these days....

Hueristic_Autistic@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 10d
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Emerald@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 9d
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HoneyMustardGas@lemmy.world · -8 pts · 10d (25 replies)

I'm always apolitical because when I try to be political, I sound like a douche and I value my kindness towards others more than I care about popular political topics.

BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world · 44 pts · 10d (6 replies)

I was born โ€œpoliticalโ€ and never given a choice. So I gave up and embraced it.

RickyRigatoni@piefed.zip · 18 pts · 10d (1 reply)

is the phone actively in hand a requirement for me to continue to be white

EonNShadow@pawb.social · 11 pts · 10d

Yes, so is the super tight collared shirt and receding hairline

HoneyMustardGas@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 10d

Well, this explains a lot.

Grail@multiverse.soulism.net · 7 pts · 10d

Cis straight white guys claiming to be apolitical is Octopus appropriation! Octopuses are way less political than humans!

diffaldo@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 5 pts · 10d (1 reply)

Awesome meme, can I post this on a meme comm?

BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 10d

Itโ€™s an oldie but goodie. Memes are for the people. Please share.

JasonDJ@lemmy.zip · 18 pts · 10d (15 replies)

What a woke-ass liberal thing to say.

Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 10d

Also unironically named mustard gas wtf

TrickDacy@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 10d (1 reply)

Can't tell if that is a joke or what

JasonDJ@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 10d

99%

HoneyMustardGas@lemmy.world · -2 pts · 10d (11 replies)

Actually the last thing I argued about was a conservative talking point. But I do it for the sport, not for all seriousness. I just like debating things. But I get myself in trouble sometimes because I will look up all the talking points for my case and win and sound like a douche. So, I try to stay apolitical for awhile, not commenting on politics, because it feels mean. And usually IRL I am a kind person. But online I am a goblin of sorts. We are different than trolls, we debate, we don't argue or joke around. We dabble in the art of rhetoric. It's like some women who call themselves eclectic witches, never adhering to a religion but still practicing witchcraft only instead of witchcraft, it's debate. I will pick the opposite angle just for the love of the game.

Oni_eyes@sh.itjust.works · 13 pts · 10d (8 replies)

Lotta people claim to be apolitical these days. If you're US based, I would argue amoral fits better.

Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 7 pts · 10d

apolitical, really means they are conservatives that dont want to be called out.

HoneyMustardGas@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 10d (6 replies)

I definitely have morals, but I hide them. I hate forming strong opinions because I have schizoeffective and become indecisive. So I try to remain as unbiased as humanly possible. Opinions pollute. Questions aspire.

Oni_eyes@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 10d (5 replies)

Why do you think it's permissible to overlook intentional suffering of others to create a more cohesive cultural fabric?

A question about why you wouldn't have an opinion on a pretty clear moral issue. Unless of course you think it's permissible to which I would argue again: immoral or amoral.

HoneyMustardGas@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 10d (4 replies)

I mentioned I have morals, I just hide them because I hate negative attention and arguing. When I go on Reddit or Lemmy, I am in relaxation mode. I think I mentioned I used to just debate for the fun of it. It got me in trouble making just one person mad, makes me feel bad. So, I like to keep myself open minded and I can see perspectives of other people. Many political issues don't directly affect me, so it is easy to switch sides, not for convenience, but because I am very open minded. I may have misworded some things iny previous comment. So I will recant, I have political views, morals and the like but they change a lot with new information and others' strong opinions. I see both sides of the coin and have trouble making a strong opinion on either side. Again this is because a symptom of schizoeffective is indecisiveness. If is partially my personality and partially my diagnosis. I mean no discourse.

Edit: who exactly is suffering and why am I to blame?

Oni_eyes@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 10d

Where did I blame you?

The people suffering are undefined but generally outgroups in society as those are the ones that have been historically vilified to pull a group together. See: Jews vs Nazis, Immigrants vs Republicans, Indigenous peoples vs Colonists, Robber Barons vs Settlers as a couple classic examples with their own unique circumstances. If you don't care until it affects you directly, again I would call that amoral.

ACindyDerg@piefed.blahaj.zone · 5 pts · 10d

If you switch sides on moral issues like that, you are amoral. If 11 people are sitting at a table making pleasant conversation with a nazi, there are 12 nazis at the table. I hope you don't take it that far, but like... Yeah

4am@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 10d

Old.reddit still works with a login

JasonDJ@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 10d

Actually the last thing I argued about was a conservative talking point.

Which point is that? Sounding like a douche, or not caring about political topics?

sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 5 pts · 10d

A person who has no enemies, has no values they're willing to fight for.

Being a professional people pleaser is a fantastic way to get yourself abused, and eventually, get peer pressured into abusing others.

TrickDacy@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 10d

What a lame way to be. Just say you're too scared of being called on your conservative ideas