We alternate our cursing. Sometimes feckin', sometimes fuckin'. Sometimes shit, sometimes shite. Sometimes cock, sometimes dick, sometimes lad, sometimes mickey, sometimes tool, sometimes one-eyed trousersnake, etc. Sometimes pussy, sometimes minge, sometimes gee, sometimes fanny, sometimes box, sometimes cunt, etc. You get the idea. The improvisational variety is half the fun of cursing.
One of the most hilarious moments in my life was watching my mother-in-law casually use the word "fanny" in front of our entire Irish extended family, and seeing their reactions. I believe the verbatim was "carting their fannies around". (As in, she was driving folks to various destinations in a rental car.) She may have also used the phrase "giving rides" in conjunction.
Even little kids say this in America, it's the equivalent of "bum" really, and isn't associated with a specific gender. The reactions on the faces of these people, some of whom we were meeting for the first time, were truly priceless.
The expectation is you shower every day. The assumption is if you did not shower that day, you stink.
It was an easy way to get downvotes on reddit: just say I shower ever 3-5 days and don't stink and people would just assume I did stink and that it is impossible for the human body not to sink without a daily shower.
Sometimes I'd even experiment and say I wash my pits daily and use a bidet. That helped a little, but not a lot. It has to be full body immersion in a shower, or it is ineffective according to the common wisdom.
People really need to learn that everyone's bodies are different. Personally, I've found that buzzing off body hair does wonders for the perception of my cleanliness. Doesn't matter how much I scrub, the smell sticks to the hair. When it's not ungodly hot out, I could (and had to one extremely busy work week) go almost a week without showering.
I get it, I have a buddy who doesn't need deodorant because he just doesn't smell, even when doing manual labor. He still showers regularly, but not every day, to get the sweat and dirt off. I knew him for years before he told me and didn't suspect a thing.
It is also stupid, since you can very easily just wipe your skin with a washcloth and use a bidet, or something. Unless you are sweating like a crazy and covered in dirt, it is not that hard to clean yourself, without taking a shower, or full-body-underwater-bath. Just a bucket of water is a lot. "Aah oh noo evryone needs to shower thrice a day!!" no you do not - you need to stay clean. Taking a shower specifically, is a luxury.
Men are animals, same as women. There's people who can't handle dating an animal, and I get it, but makeup on a pig just makes it look pathetic. I would rather kiss the pig, warts and all or be alone, but kiss a pig that looks like a clown and smells like petrochemicals? Now that is a turnoff.
I mean.... I think it depends on the guy. Some guys have a strong body odor and first impressions matter a LOT. Also dates are usually at the end of the day when y'all are at your stankiest from the day's activities.
I mean, I wash off my nethers before bed for that reason, but I don't take a full shower. I don't even get my top half wet. My wife loves my natural smell at the end of the day.
so how many men is "some men?" weasel words imply the actual reality is someone saw a statistically insignificant number of tweets and didn't want to say that because it weakens the point they already decided they want to make.
anyway my junk smells great after a shower, and i know people with sniff kinks, so... i guess that makes me more alpha than these losers.
My wife has always told me that women really just want a guy who is nice to them and doesn't smell, and monosphere weirdos keep telling them to do the opposite.
I’ve read my fair share of romance novels by women and it’s common to describe the main love interest as smelling like freshly clean laundry lol. Literally just show up clean with clean clothes on. It’s not more complicated than that.
Well you're not going keep a small army of incels addicted to "content" and dubious financial apps signed up to via affiliate links if you get them all laid now, are you?
By telling you to trust virgin men instead of women on matters of what said women think, said virgin men fried your understanding of the world forever.
Technically true. Fun and interesting are what most people are attracted to regardless of gender. People also are particularly prone to developing attraction to people they feel good being around.
Kindness is however a prerequisite for a large portion of women (and an absolute no go for plenty of other women, because people). The ones who want kindness are much better partners
100 percent disagree. The number one thing that women consider in a long term partner is financial stability. People confuse "kind to me" as kind. The shittiest rich people have the most partners. People are attracted to power and success. The stories come along after.
Some people are. It's also a question of what the man wants - a lot of shitty short term partners, or one (or a small number) of hight quality long term partners. The latter is better achieved by being kind to the partner.
oh here we go. with the nice guys. yeah, be an aggro butthole, lay out the insults, they LOVE IT! buddy. you've been sold the garbage and you're eating it.
It's not that hard... shower 4-8 hours before the date, then don't do anything that makes you sweat significantly or become dirty. You'll still be clean, but won't have scrubbed away your natural smells and the like.
Is this just a feed back loop for incels? Woman rejects them at first date because they smell terribly and they have new "evidence" of all women hating them?
Oh God no. They drink a lot and eat like shit. State dart tournaments smell like BO and a porta-pottie. There's so much methane I'm surprised none have exploded yet.
Regarding human attraction, evolutionary theory suggests that individuals may be subconsciously drawn to partners with dissimilar MHC genes. This preference is often mediated by body odor, as MHC genotypes influence the scent of sweat and other bodily fluids. Choosing a partner with different MHC alleles increases the likelihood that offspring will inherit a diverse set of immune genes, potentially enhancing their pathogen resistance and overall fitness.
Maybe, but I wouldn't put too much faith in this being the source, because (a) these male influencer types often just transfer (outdated) findings from research on animal behavior to humans (see this "alpha/beta/sigma" stuff) and (b) the idea here seems to be "more is better" which makes no sense even if you were to (wrongly) equate body odor with sex pheromones.
Dead skin cells and oils consumed, shat out, and increasingly an odour issue the longer it piles up. There is no other contributors here. Body odour is bacteria poop and they're not flushing.
I’m not up on whatever trend but it may work in some cases provided they’re not just marinating in filth (there’s definitely a difference).
I got psy-op’d by society into being very anxious about possibly smelling around a date since I sweat easily so I ensured absolutely every time before one was a VERY thorough shower and scrub til’ I was practically raw, generous application of deoderant, etc. and applied a light bit of tea tree oil before I went on a date.
On one of the early dates with my now-wife while we were watching a movie, she finally turned to me and said that there was some sort of smell to me that was giving her a headache for the past few dates and asked if I could just not use that moving forward.
It turned out that she actually hated the deoderant and tea tree and so on and actually some sort of wire is crossed in her head such that my natural body scent smells like passionfruit to her (she very positively rates passionfruit). So my early efforts to come off as if I have never had the concept of sweat in my life were directly sabotaging my attempt to appeal to her nose, in addition to making me feel insecure about it when there was really no need.
going light on perfume (or straight up not using it at all) should be borderline mandated by law, so many people suffer from being surrounded by pungent perfume, it can literally trigger asthma attacks!
Keep yourself clean, use like a single spritz of perfume, and apply it a while before you head out so it has time to mellow down a bit. And please god use gentle subtle scents, not Febreeze Facefuck Fury that singes people's nose hairs clean off..
some people are really sensitive to tea treec oil smell, I honestly find it pretty upsetting to smell, had to use it as some sort of remedy for something I don't remember, but I remember how much I hated the smell. there's always a downside to over doing it on smells.
My first GF, many years ago. I was snuggling with her, and smelled her hair. I said it smelled nice, and she pulled back to tell me she hadn't washed it in three days. In the moment, because I was so young and inexperienced, I felt a little foolish.
It doesn't take long to realize it's okay to like what you like.
It's the same Naturalist fallacy that health-and-wellness hucksters love to pitch to people. Another one I loved was "don't wash your hair, that causes baldness", leading to an entire graduating class of college kids going around with bedhead for a year or three.
Aluminum Neurotoxicity in Neurodegenerative Diseases
"Aluminium crosses the blood–brain barrier via transferrin-mediated pathways and can catalyse the generation of reactive oxygen species, disrupt mitochondrial function and promote neuroinflammatory cascades. At the molecular level, aluminium ions can bind to amyloidogenic proteins, facilitating the oligomerisation of β-amyloid and stabilising hyperphosphorylated tau, thereby amplifying the formation of senile plaques and neurofibrillary tangles characteristic of Alzheimer’s disease. In Parkinson’s disease and other movement disorders, aluminium may contribute to dopaminergic neuronal loss by exacerbating mitochondrial dysfunction and α-synuclein aggregation. Epidemiological studies have detected elevated aluminium levels in post-mortem brain tissue from patients with Alzheimer’s disease, multiple sclerosis and autism spectrum disorder."
I wasn't insinuating that you were misogynistic, though I can definitely see how that could be taken from my comment in the context of the article.
I did read the third one, or at least what was available for free. It briefly mentions antiperspirants in passing in the same paragraph that mentions all of the likely much more serious confounding factors (including, for example, actual ingestion) that could be leading to aluminum crossing the blood-brain barrier.
From your links I'm convinced that I probably shouldn't eat or inhale aluminum, but I see much less reason to avoid anti-perspirants.
Edit: I'm also skeptical of your Nature link for all of the usual reasons to be wary of meta-studies.
Hi, that was me. This place is pro-science, which is why when people post articles with only the most tenuous possible connection to the conversation at hand in order to promote the pro-stink agenda they're spouting all over the thread, it tends to be quite the turnoff.
The same way that stinky people tend to be quite the turnoff.
I can't speak for anyone else but I can tell you when I look for a partner the main deal breaker is if they don't shower often enough. I don't want to smell Eau de Ass in my daily life.
There's plenty of people on this post acting like a stinky man is unfit.
Suffice to say this is false.
There are plenty of things to criticize in a man. Their stank is not one of the ones that matter to me.
What matters to me:
Are they a misogynist?
Are they racist?
Are they hateful?
Are they classist?
Are they kind?
Are they empathic?
Are they able to cook?
Do they clean the dishes when they use them?
Are they a misogynist? Are they racist? Are they hateful? Are they classist? Are they kind? Are they empathic?
I'm guessing if they're getting their hygiene tips from the man-o-sphere about things like pheremones, etc.... they're likely also going to be all of the above (except the last one).
Nobody is innocent in war, though some people won't ever admit that they do it, once you're asleep I can promise something gonna sneak out the back when you're tired enough.
There's a difference between "I haven't showered today, but otherwise keep myself clean" and "I routinely neglect essential basic hygiene to the degree it can be considered mental illness."
I think some people are assuming you're talking about the later.
Body odor does not necessarily have to do with washing your own ass, you can stink at the same day you took a shower...
There's a difference in smell vs not washed though.
I can make a cheese omelette, and rice and peas. I can feed myself essentially, but not to a quality that I can share with others, or so I've been told
Appreciate the offer for recipes though, kind stranger
I'm a trained chef and recently moved into a place with a panini press. Oh my god how I love this thing. It's the ultimate tool for people who can't cook. You don't even need to do anything chef-like, just put ingredients between bread and press for four minutes. Done. It makes rivals to some of my favorite crazy-ass chef'd up meals.
And that about sharing with others.. I understand, however from experience, there's others who will enjoy the fact that you cooked for them, and there's others who will pick at the recipe.
Big pot, fill with chopped whatever the fuck you have in the fridge, add enough water to cover the whateverthefuck, add some salt (careful, can always add more later but you can't remove excess), and cook until it smells like food.
I feel like a lot of those things go hand in hand with hygiene though. At least me i dont personally give a shit how i smell, but i shower every morning out respect for others. Someone who doesn't keep themselves clean isn't going to be keeping the kitchen and bathroom clean either.
Yes, it's a correlation, correct. And yeah every single crackhead bum is an infinitely better person than some corpo executive spending his life destroying the planet. But you also don't wanna date a hobo who's a really great guy.
But also it's cleaning the knives, wood, and cast iron. (My house has been decreasing our use of plastic in the kitchen and while it's nice, it does result in some hand washing)
A lot of people in the US have really weird conceptions about dishwashers, for some reason. Technology Connections has a video where he goes over it and explains that dishwashers work fine and don't require pre-rinsing or whatever.
Dishwashers are a thing but it's just easier to handwash tbh. Once i rinse the dish and use a fork to clear any food debris to make it ready for the dishwaher, it takes like two more seconds to wipe it with a soapy sponge. I can just do the whole sink by hand in ten minutes, or spend five minutes loading and then wait an hour.
It's nice when im running late for work or something but 9/10 times i just hand wash.
Look, be clean and don't smell like sweat. But it's not always a good idea to go crazy with cologne either. I've had one person tell me that my natural scent was extremely attractive.
As always, it's entirely dependent on you and who you're trying to impress.
Of everything the manosphere is promoting, this is the most mundane and harmless shit ever.
When they promote>
Misogyny, doing crack, heck doing a shetload of drugs, narcissism, hitting your face with a hammer, nihilism
no showers.. is.. .. so benign by comparison. jeez
Let men be monkeys please, and try not to push them into a corner about stupid harmless shet.
If you're going to corner monke, do so for something worth fighting a cornered animal for.
better yet, this can easily be turned into a wholly positive thing: They just have to be informed that they're doing it wrong, that the proper way is to shower and then do a bit of light exercise.
Some people will really enjoy the way your body smells, but very few people will enjoy the smell of bacteria poo. Showering removes the bacteria stench so it's actually possible to smell your natural scent.
I mean I did just date a woman who told me she was into sniffing body odor. As in, would shove her nose into her ex's armpits after he mowed the lawn. We didn't date long enough for it to happen to me, but definitely a thing, for some people
The pheromones thing does have some basis in science, but it mostly applies to ANIMALS who use scent as the PRIMARY INDICATOR they're biologically ready for mating. As humans we have the ability to communicate verbally which kinda superscedes any need for that mechanism. That said, I have noticed that after dating someone and being around them for a period of time you do start to form a positive correlation between their natural scent and happiness, security, etc. Note that's natural scent, not sweaty-ass BO. I've had several partners that would love to "smell" me and tell me I smell good even though I wasn't wearing any specific colonges or other fragrances. It takes time for that positive correlation to form though, so It's probably not going to do you any good on your first fucking date.
I’ve definitely dated women who smelled better than others, some of whom I very much liked their smell, others not so much. Dated one stinky lady who was an awful kisser, and we broke up for other reasons (bad kissing was due to a super weird/aggressive technique, not not smell or chemistry).
This has had near zero correlation of overall attractiveness or suitability though. Especially given that most of the time you shower near daily, and if you’re not showering for an extended period you’re usually both not showered and go smell blind.
right? if you actually want to advertise "pheromones" (i don't think it's the right term but whatever) you should be taking a shower without using any perfumed products, then just do a little bit of exercise.
Yeah a fresh mild sweat can do wonders, but too much or too old is a problem.
But also, just wearing a little scent while being clean can take it up a notch. That way as the evening goes on your scent slowly takes to the forefront. A scent should be discovered not announced, that goes for both perfumes and bodily scents
Just to be clear to anyone that buys into this nonsense. Humans don't produce any kind of pheromones at all, we also don't select mates based on smells we like, the only chemical that effects a human's sexual arousal is testosterone and the most readily avaliable source is male saliva, so everything before the point you're open mouth kissing is social selection, not chemical, stop being gross and wash your ass.
The smell plays a role in attraction. Fertility surely plays a role too, for heterosexual relationships… yet I guess the compatibility of immune system should still play a role in homosexual relationships and between people who aren't fertile (due to age or health conditions) since it is not conscious, no? Do you know if it has been studied too?
That last bit is huge. When I transitioned I went from slightly bi to full homo (hormones can do weird things) and went from thinking that most people smelled pretty good with mild sweat to loving it in women and finding it utterly repulsive in a way that I get how some people could like it, but please get it away from me on men.
A same persone kiss doesn't "taste" the same according to what they ate just before. Yet may the compatibility of a persone doesn't depend on the last thing they ate?
I don't sample anything when I kiss, so I don't know… for me it is more a moment of exchange with an other persone and that mater is more in the sentimental feelings and complicity.
Have you ever kissed someone you loved and found out from that kiss that youwere not compatible with that persone? I have know a few kissers, but I haven't heared of that among my friends or relatives…
I also wonder why no one loved them. It's clear they didn't get enough love from their parents and family. Their support system is lacking in some fundamental way that they would turn to grifters to feel cared for.
I have a lot less sympathy. Sometimes people have plenty of love and support and they just do weird messed up shit, or stuff like think the confident Internet guy has good dating advice.
Not everyone who does stuff like this was failed by the system. It's not falling through the cracks if you pull yourself through the hole.
Sounds like a Cosmo magazine that give advice on blow jobs instead a few years ago. They reccomended using teeth. They said something like "he won't ask because he's embarrassed" or something.
groom, scrub, shampoo, condition, etc. at 3:00PM then wash and clean you car's interiors (if applicable)
thoroughly shower rinse (no soap). Only use soap (unscented) to wash your genitals and butt again at 6:30-7:00
I sometimes used a mix of coconut oil with clove essential oil on my clavicles and side of my ribs if I wanted a very subtle scent at 'tongue-to-skin" distance.
Stank, whether is due to lack of hygiene or overly perfumed soaps, shampoos, hair products, etc. is just unpleasant. I preferred for my partners to remember and desire my scent, not dirty stank, not some cologne, and not the soap/shampoo.
EDIT: The placement of the essential oil or any othe scent is important because nobody likes the taste of perfumes, essential oils, etc.
I'm fairly scent-sensitive and it's true some people stink better than others, men and women.
Story time: I was hiking one time and met this vaguely hippy looking couple coming the other way, as we passed they both stank but in a musky, animal way. It was comforting and more than a little arousing if I'm being honest. I wanted them to rub themselves all over me, or roll around on them like I was their dog and they'd come home from a new place.
Oh yeah, a good musky smell, especially in nature with plenty of woody smells, is unnnfffff so good. A natural diet (especially high in plants), with plenty of time in the outdoors and lots of exercise combined with enough hygiene to wash off the stink before it goes stale… Yeah that'll go great things for one's smell.
In a lot of ways some hippies are the opposite of these 4chan types despite some similarities.
A friend of mine used to do something similar. He skipped using deodorant and just sprayed himself with perfume. Because of the pheromone thing. As someone once thought me "the aroma + the stink = the odour".
assuming it's not been stewing for a week and thus smells like shit..
I wouldn't risk that though: just take a shower, skip all but the lightest perfume, and do a couple jumping jacks, and you'll have plenty of """pheromones""" while also just generally smelling nice.
Note: Listening to female influencers instead won't necessarily solve these kinds of issues, since women grifters also exist. They just (usually) give you different bad answers.
I mean yeah if you showered in the morning and didn't sweat during the day, you're fine. We naturally smell good, it's when we sweat and bacteria grows in our sweaty pores, that's where the bad smell comes from.
I think everyone knows what is good and bad body odor. If you are healthy, have a good diet, don't smoke and limit alcohol, you're likely to have a please body odor even after training.
Nobody said smelling like ass, obviously that doesn't smell good to anyone. But yes, if you weren't sweating and you showered in the morning, believe it or not straight women like the smell of men.
yes, but that's with the pretty fucking major caveat that you WANT to shower so that people can actually smell your "pheromones" rather than being hit with a wall of fermented sweat.
They got so close but managed to completely miss the point
You’re aware that there are many, many, aluminum, petroleum, and sulfate free products out there, right? You can also just exfoliate in the shower with only a wash cloth and water. Just because there are shitty products on the market it doesn’t mean you don’t have options for healthy, basic, and yes, natural for humans (which are, arguably, not cats.), hygiene.
Manosphere influencers are getting dates because of that shit. They're getting dates because they're paying for it with money from all the morons following them.
I honestly support this. If your future partner dislikes your natural scent, it'll cause all sorts of annoyances downstream. I mean, don't go a week without it, but why do we all peacock so hard instead of just fuckin relaxing with each other? It's not really a wonder the divorce rate is over 50% with modern life, is it?
Nah. I don't see any need to peacock at all. I'll remain hygenic, but you don't need to shower constantly to achieve that, and "your natural scent should be a cleanish one" is such a privledged position lol. I could go on a tangent, but I honestly just don't see any problem with anyone acting any way they would like at all before a date. If you as the receiving party don't like it, gtfo and move on. That's literally the purpose of dating, to find compatibility, not to change each other.
Showing prior to an event is not basic hygiene. I don't know who told you that but most people in America shower too often and damage their skin, don't take my word for it just do some actual research with dermatologists instead of following whatever dead brain rinse and repeat shower commercial you're rotting your mind with.
Also I don't seek women, I'm gay, and yes a shower every 48 hours is recommended but that's not what is specified here, what's specified is one right before the date, and omg do you have the nuclear hetronormitive mindset 😂.
Your suggestions are bad and contain all sorts of preconceived bais, so yes, they're wild.
Right back at ya. You immediately assumed I was suggesting that one should shower immediately before a date every time without actually understanding my comment.
I'm not fighting you on this. Keep not showering and see how that works for dating.
"Your natural scent should be a cleanish one" is such a privledged position.
Wut... Privileged how? Because some people don't have access to showers? Because some people can't afford soap? I'm not seeing it.
And if you don't see a problem going on a date without showering or changing into fresh clothes or "acting any way they would at all before the date" then you don't get to complain that women are to picky, they have every right to be. There's a stark difference between "being yourself" and "deceiving someone to get laid".
Every accusation a confession lol. I wasn't talking about you specifically, but men in general complaining women are too picky yet refusing any modicum of introspection as to why women are not picking them so they just complain. It's like saying "I only eat pizza" and then complaining nobody invites you out for BBQ or something. I could care less about "winning" some internet comment section I'll forget about by dinner.
I just see this incel/male loneliness thing brought up again and again, and instead of knocking them back down i thought I'd try to offer a hand.
That seems like something to bring up with your doctor tbh. Of course you can bring up some obscure medical condition to try and prove your point "right", since that seems to be the most important thing to you.
Nah dude it's just natural for some people, it's rare sure, but natural especially for certain diets. Mediterranean diets for example often cause specifically strong bo. It's not something I deal with, but it's privledged to treat it like a medical issue or something solvable when it's just something some people live with. Irregardless, it's just one small piece of my overall argument and I don't really care to have it strawmaned lol.
but why do we all peacock so hard instead of just fuckin relaxing with each other?
Taking a shower before a date is peacocking? I mean I don't think you're going to be especially smelly if you haven't showered in a day or two and haven't been exercising or something.
However, I think it's just common courtesy to have your genitalia as clean as possible if there is even a slight possibility of them being in or around someone's mouth later.
even if you do exercise within that time, just using a separate change of gym clothes makes a big difference. It's spending a lot of time afterward in sweaty clothes that causes the stink.
Idk why you think having a quick shower to at least wash your genitals is some kind of demanding task? Is performing oral sex on someone with clean genitals somehow unnatural or unrelaxing to you?
That's literally the conversation. My argument is that mandating showers before events is not based on any reasonable logic and that the entire meme here screams of shallow peacocking that won't result in long term compatibility or happiness. You're the only one talking about genitals.
Why are you so centered on genitals?... This is not about genitals or putting them in mouths. Stop making me second hand to whatever fetish this is lol...
Sometimes after dates, people decide to have sex. Generally, one might want to be clean enough to not give their potential sex partner an infection or bad taste in their mouth.
Do I need to explain how babies come to be as well?
That's literally the conversation. My argument is that mandating showers before events
I don't think you know what mandate means? Making fun of people who are confusing body odor with pheromones is not the same as someone giving an official command to always bathe before dates.
the entire meme here screams of shallow peacocking
What do you think peacocking means? I don't know how someone is going to make themselves stand out of the crowd by bathing.
You're the only one talking about genitals.
Do you not think the condition of your genitals may have something to do with why you should take a shower? Especially before going on a date?
I know what mandate means, it's fine you don't understand me I don't wish to clarify.
Peacocking is just changing any set of habits to impress over your baseline, it doesn't require any specific or significant signifer and can be hygiene, dress, financial, or otherwise.
I think that you're too fuckin shallow if you think a date directly ties to sex, but hey, lots of people are.
Peacocking is just changing any set of habits to impress over your baseline
That is not the commonly understood definition of peacocking......
"Peacocking is a social behavior where someone dresses or acts in a flashy, exaggerated way to grab attention and stand out from a crowd"
you're too fuckin shallow if you think a date directly ties to sex, but hey, lots of people are.
Wut? I wouldn't exactly go on a date to acquire a platonic friendship..... Typically dates are tied to a romantic relationship, most romantic relationships include sexual intercourse.
It's hilarious that you think being considerate to your partner makes you shallow. I feel bad for any of your current or future significant others.
Yah, wtf are people on about. How stinky are these mfs where they need to shower BEFORE A DATE?! I’ve NEVER showered before a date. If you shower every day or every other day, you shouldn’t be a stink person, especially not enough to necessitate showering AGAIN BEFORE A DATE. I don’t wanna go out with someone and have them smell like chemicals or flowers or potpourri or some shit. I want them to smell like person.
I’m with my forever partner now so we won’t shower for a week, and they always smell good to me uwu
And they're fine just being fake or high effort, like that's maintainable in a long term relationship 😂. Like fuck bro we all get old, you're gonna be changing your partners drawers or vice versa at some point. Life gets rough, they'll find out eventually.
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Akasazh@lemmy.world · 150 pts · 6d
It's almost like they want their fanbase to remain single and sexually frustrated
NoFearFrontier@feddit.org · 5 pts · 6d
For clicks
Evil_Incarnate@sopuli.xyz · 92 pts · 6d
Let them. Better odds for the rest of us.
mrmisses@lemmy.world · 29 pts · 6d
Now they're even easier to spot.
People attracted to guys - you're better than that, avoid
whyderrito@lemmy.dbzer0.com · -11 pts · 6d
SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world · 63 pts · 7d
A young woman once did comment positively on my scent while I was perspiring lightly, but I had showered previously, so that probably helped the most.
CackNClap@infosec.pub · 79 pts · 6d
Definitely a big difference between fresh sweat on a clean, healthy person and STANK!
SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world · 22 pts · 6d
I think I was healthy back then too
gibson@sopuli.xyz · 6 pts · 6d
Sweat on its own doesn't even necessarily smell (though it can). Its primarily when it interacts with bacteria on the skin that BO is produced
jballs@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 6d
Lmao why did you say this so formally?
SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 6d
English, motherfucker - do you speak it?
brbposting@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 6d
What was that, Jay Spheres sir?
saltnotsugar@lemmy.world · 37 pts · 6d
It’s called Stank Booty here where I live, and it’s quite the cock block actually.
RaoulDuke25@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 12 pts · 6d
In Texas we say that person smells like whataburger.
Anchorxiety@reddthat.com · 42 pts · 6d
In Ireland we say that person smells like shit
Syltti@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 6d
God Bless Ireland~
natecox@programming.dev · 12 pts · 6d
Its impressive how often I hear about Ireland and think to myself "man I would fit in well there".
some_kind_of_guy@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 6d
Not shite?
Tango@piefed.ca · 7 pts · 6d
We alternate our cursing. Sometimes feckin', sometimes fuckin'. Sometimes shit, sometimes shite. Sometimes cock, sometimes dick, sometimes lad, sometimes mickey, sometimes tool, sometimes one-eyed trousersnake, etc. Sometimes pussy, sometimes minge, sometimes gee, sometimes fanny, sometimes box, sometimes cunt, etc. You get the idea. The improvisational variety is half the fun of cursing.
some_kind_of_guy@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 6d
One of the most hilarious moments in my life was watching my mother-in-law casually use the word "fanny" in front of our entire Irish extended family, and seeing their reactions. I believe the verbatim was "carting their fannies around". (As in, she was driving folks to various destinations in a rental car.) She may have also used the phrase "giving rides" in conjunction.
Even little kids say this in America, it's the equivalent of "bum" really, and isn't associated with a specific gender. The reactions on the faces of these people, some of whom we were meeting for the first time, were truly priceless.
Eyekaytee@aussie.zone · 9 pts · 6d
i had no idea if you don’t have a shower before a date you instantly turn into a smelly monster
is this an american thing specifically?
schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works · 18 pts · 6d
The expectation is you shower every day. The assumption is if you did not shower that day, you stink.
It was an easy way to get downvotes on reddit: just say I shower ever 3-5 days and don't stink and people would just assume I did stink and that it is impossible for the human body not to sink without a daily shower.
Sometimes I'd even experiment and say I wash my pits daily and use a bidet. That helped a little, but not a lot. It has to be full body immersion in a shower, or it is ineffective according to the common wisdom.
Edit: i see it's not limited to reddit lol
Redditmodstouchgrass@lemmy.zip · 13 pts · 6d
People really need to learn that everyone's bodies are different. Personally, I've found that buzzing off body hair does wonders for the perception of my cleanliness. Doesn't matter how much I scrub, the smell sticks to the hair. When it's not ungodly hot out, I could (and had to one extremely busy work week) go almost a week without showering.
schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 6d
If I shower because I've been sweating, it's because I itch; I don't smell worse for sweating--at least not if I'm using deoderant.
Wren@lemmy.today · 10 pts · 6d
I get it, I have a buddy who doesn't need deodorant because he just doesn't smell, even when doing manual labor. He still showers regularly, but not every day, to get the sweat and dirt off. I knew him for years before he told me and didn't suspect a thing.
schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 6d
Maybe he kept it to himself because people react with disgust despite all the evidence before their very noses.
Cleanliness as ritual.
kolmaskommentoija@sopuli.xyz · 2 pts · 5d
It is also stupid, since you can very easily just wipe your skin with a washcloth and use a bidet, or something. Unless you are sweating like a crazy and covered in dirt, it is not that hard to clean yourself, without taking a shower, or full-body-underwater-bath. Just a bucket of water is a lot. "Aah oh noo evryone needs to shower thrice a day!!" no you do not - you need to stay clean. Taking a shower specifically, is a luxury.
schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 5d
Yes, it is incredibly stupid.
"You didn't take a shower? Your arm pits must STINK!"
"That's DISGUSTING. You must stink."
"I'm sure people are just too polite to tell you."
etc.
Gork@sopuli.xyz · 11 pts · 6d
Not sure if it's an American thing but definitely a some men thing.
whyderrito@lemmy.dbzer0.com · -10 pts · 6d
Men are animals, same as women. There's people who can't handle dating an animal, and I get it, but makeup on a pig just makes it look pathetic. I would rather kiss the pig, warts and all or be alone, but kiss a pig that looks like a clown and smells like petrochemicals? Now that is a turnoff.
topherclay@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 6d
Uh huh right and just curious what's your relationship with your parents like? lol
whyderrito@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 0 pts · 6d
brookenium@feddit.online · 4 pts · 6d
I mean.... I think it depends on the guy. Some guys have a strong body odor and first impressions matter a LOT. Also dates are usually at the end of the day when y'all are at your stankiest from the day's activities.
Earthwormjim91@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 6d
If you're showering regularly, that really shouldn't be that much of an issue unless you have a very active job outside.
Every woman I know loves their boyfriend/husband's "musk" when they're sweaty. That's a pretty common partner thing.
SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world · 5 pts · 6d
My wife loves to gargle my salt and vinegar balls after a long hard summer's day of manual labor.
Earthwormjim91@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 6d
I mean, I wash off my nethers before bed for that reason, but I don't take a full shower. I don't even get my top half wet. My wife loves my natural smell at the end of the day.
LovableSidekick@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 6d
Advertising isn't a multibillion dollar industry for nothing.
anewfox@lemmy.zip · 35 pts · 6d
so how many men is "some men?" weasel words imply the actual reality is someone saw a statistically insignificant number of tweets and didn't want to say that because it weakens the point they already decided they want to make.
anyway my junk smells great after a shower, and i know people with sniff kinks, so... i guess that makes me more alpha than these losers.
NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone · 12 pts · 6d
Aye, this is the most non-story thing ever.
nomy@lemmy.zip · 8 pts · 6d
I swear 4chan was telling people to rub ballsweat on themselves like perfume 20 years ago.
This is internet lore that someone fell for.
Jax@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 6d
Monetized internet lore*
cattywampas@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 5d
This is like when the news uses a tweet they found and they say "people are saying this!"
anongirl@lemmy.today · 26 pts · 6d
Thebeardedsinglemalt@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 6d
Incorrect. Because most of those guys aren't going on dates.
...unless they think it's a date and Chris Hanson pops out from the corner
Greymattertripp@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 6d
This is an underrated comment lol
pjwestin@lemmy.world · 24 pts · 6d
My wife has always told me that women really just want a guy who is nice to them and doesn't smell, and monosphere weirdos keep telling them to do the opposite.
miraclerandy@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 6d
I’ve read my fair share of romance novels by women and it’s common to describe the main love interest as smelling like freshly clean laundry lol. Literally just show up clean with clean clothes on. It’s not more complicated than that.
DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 6d
This is a good source. Women talking to women without men around, which is what romance novels are in essence.
Blackmist@feddit.uk · 7 pts · 5d
Well you're not going keep a small army of incels addicted to "content" and dubious financial apps signed up to via affiliate links if you get them all laid now, are you?
beejboytyson@lemmy.world · -25 pts · 6d
Your wife is being disingenuous with you. Nice isn't what women are attracted to.
Nalivai@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 6d
By telling you to trust virgin men instead of women on matters of what said women think, said virgin men fried your understanding of the world forever.
beejboytyson@lemmy.world · -6 pts · 5d
Nah, your just not bright. You don't like science.
captainlezbian@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 6d
Technically true. Fun and interesting are what most people are attracted to regardless of gender. People also are particularly prone to developing attraction to people they feel good being around.
Kindness is however a prerequisite for a large portion of women (and an absolute no go for plenty of other women, because people). The ones who want kindness are much better partners
beejboytyson@lemmy.world · -10 pts · 5d
100 percent disagree. The number one thing that women consider in a long term partner is financial stability. People confuse "kind to me" as kind. The shittiest rich people have the most partners. People are attracted to power and success. The stories come along after.
angrystego@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 5d
Some people are. It's also a question of what the man wants - a lot of shitty short term partners, or one (or a small number) of hight quality long term partners. The latter is better achieved by being kind to the partner.
pjwestin@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 5d
Well, I was nice to her, and now I'm married, so... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
beejboytyson@lemmy.world · -4 pts · 5d
Doesn't mean your a nice person.....
pjwestin@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 5d
OK, well then I'm glad I said, "be nice to them," not, "be a nice person in your heart of hearts."
beejboytyson@lemmy.world · -4 pts · 5d
Well then you're just manipulating the other person. Back to the disingenuous acts. But that's OK.
Snowclone@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 5d
oh here we go. with the nice guys. yeah, be an aggro butthole, lay out the insults, they LOVE IT! buddy. you've been sold the garbage and you're eating it.
beejboytyson@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 4d
That's a lot of projection, I never said any of that. All I said was that being a nice person isn't what attracts mates.
Snowclone@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 3d
did you try pissing your pants to attract a mate?
beejboytyson@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 3d
No because then you'd smell like piss. Do you pee your pants?
prime_number_314159@lemmy.world · 23 pts · 6d
It's not that hard... shower 4-8 hours before the date, then don't do anything that makes you sweat significantly or become dirty. You'll still be clean, but won't have scrubbed away your natural smells and the like.
velma@sh.itjust.works · 23 pts · 6d
Is this just a feed back loop for incels? Woman rejects them at first date because they smell terribly and they have new "evidence" of all women hating them?
chuckleslord@lemmy.world · 22 pts · 6d
Yep. Just like all male influencer advice. It's a pit of despair you can only keep falling down so long as you keep taking their advice
captainlezbian@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 6d
whyderrito@lemmy.dbzer0.com · -2 pts · 6d
velma@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 6d
Quit generalizing. I'm not acting like that.
whyderrito@lemmy.dbzer0.com · -2 pts · 6d
velma@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 6d
You really think I disagree with you?
whyderrito@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 6d
Varesti@lemmy.zip · 23 pts · 6d
Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 22 pts · 6d
If you show up to a cafe smelling like an anime convention or a TCG tournament then you have only yourself to blame when your date runs away gagging.
shartgargle@lemmy.zip · 8 pts · 6d
Dart tournaments are just as bad.
Habahnow@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 6d
Lol fr? I thought dart people were more on the normal side than the nerd side...
shartgargle@lemmy.zip · 8 pts · 6d
Oh God no. They drink a lot and eat like shit. State dart tournaments smell like BO and a porta-pottie. There's so much methane I'm surprised none have exploded yet.
Wren@lemmy.today · 4 pts · 6d
Can you tell us more about the exciting world of darts?
shartgargle@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 6d
That's about it. I quit playing when my kid was born.
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 22 pts · 6d
"Yeah, ladies, once you get a deep whiff of my good old American masculine STANK, you'll be putty in my hands."
Tiger666@lemmy.ca · 21 pts · 6d
They also don't wash their asses because its "gay".
Nalivai@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 6d
They engage in a practice called "not touching butt maxing"
Hupf@feddit.org · 5 pts · 5d
butt mining
billwashere@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 6d
I’m pretty sure if it’s anything-maxxing it’s stupid as fuck. Unless it’s giving me money-maxing. I’m all for that one.
SethTaylor@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 6d
Max-maxxing. Max everything out. Have everything and do everything. Become one with the universe, be the beginning and end of time
Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de · 3 pts · 6d
fibremaxxing: consume nothing but wood and grass so you quite literally shit bricks that can be used for construction.
seriously, using high-fibre (animal) poo in mud bricks is a legitimate construction technique that works great in dry climates!
Snowclone@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 5d
this is actually a part of the process for self mummification....
skeezix@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 6d
It’s shitmaxxing
PacketPilgrim@thelemmy.club · -1 pts · 6d
Alexfire@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 6d
Maybe something with this?
rustydrd@sh.itjust.works · 7 pts · 6d
Maybe, but I wouldn't put too much faith in this being the source, because (a) these male influencer types often just transfer (outdated) findings from research on animal behavior to humans (see this "alpha/beta/sigma" stuff) and (b) the idea here seems to be "more is better" which makes no sense even if you were to (wrongly) equate body odor with sex pheromones.
Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it · 5 pts · 6d
They also fail to understand that ""fresh"" body odor (as in: just finished doing some jogging) is different from 2 weeks old stink
DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 6d
That this somehow transfers to not showering leading to positive interactions with women is mere speculation.
But, y'all go ahead and try whatever. It's not like talking to women respectfully and showing an interest hasn't worked for, well, since forever.
baltakatei@sopuli.xyz · -2 pts · 6d
I guess measuring skull dimensions went out of fashion.
treesapx@lemmy.world · -3 pts · 6d
This is what Axe body spray is for!
Kolanaki@pawb.social · 16 pts · 6d
First they embraced the debunked Alpha Wolf shit. Now they think humans still have pheromone receptors.
IndustryStandard@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 6d
Yu-Gi-Oh tournaments is where all the ladies at
Blackmist@feddit.uk · 1 pts · 5d
Or was that MTG. Same shit applies, probably. Not much time for hygiene when you're trying to catch up on One Piece, Bleach and Naruto.
saltesc@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 6d
The smell is literally bacteria shit.
Dead skin cells and oils consumed, shat out, and increasingly an odour issue the longer it piles up. There is no other contributors here. Body odour is bacteria poop and they're not flushing.
whyderrito@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 28 pts · 6d
Brev, humans are bacterial colonies with an ego.
zoloftt@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 6d
I mean, some of your body odor isn't. But yeah, if you don't shower you reek from bacteria...
Nautalax@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 6d
I’m not up on whatever trend but it may work in some cases provided they’re not just marinating in filth (there’s definitely a difference).
I got psy-op’d by society into being very anxious about possibly smelling around a date since I sweat easily so I ensured absolutely every time before one was a VERY thorough shower and scrub til’ I was practically raw, generous application of deoderant, etc. and applied a light bit of tea tree oil before I went on a date.
On one of the early dates with my now-wife while we were watching a movie, she finally turned to me and said that there was some sort of smell to me that was giving her a headache for the past few dates and asked if I could just not use that moving forward.
It turned out that she actually hated the deoderant and tea tree and so on and actually some sort of wire is crossed in her head such that my natural body scent smells like passionfruit to her (she very positively rates passionfruit). So my early efforts to come off as if I have never had the concept of sweat in my life were directly sabotaging my attempt to appeal to her nose, in addition to making me feel insecure about it when there was really no need.
whyderrito@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 9 pts · 6d
Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de · 4 pts · 6d
going light on perfume (or straight up not using it at all) should be borderline mandated by law, so many people suffer from being surrounded by pungent perfume, it can literally trigger asthma attacks!
Keep yourself clean, use like a single spritz of perfume, and apply it a while before you head out so it has time to mellow down a bit. And please god use gentle subtle scents, not Febreeze Facefuck Fury that singes people's nose hairs clean off..
Snowclone@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 5d
some people are really sensitive to tea treec oil smell, I honestly find it pretty upsetting to smell, had to use it as some sort of remedy for something I don't remember, but I remember how much I hated the smell. there's always a downside to over doing it on smells.
rumba@lemmy.zip · 13 pts · 6d
incel maxing
DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 6d
My first GF, many years ago. I was snuggling with her, and smelled her hair. I said it smelled nice, and she pulled back to tell me she hadn't washed it in three days. In the moment, because I was so young and inexperienced, I felt a little foolish.
It doesn't take long to realize it's okay to like what you like.
Funkt4st1c@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 3d
Women (subjectively, admittedly) smell so much nicer than men ever have when they stink.
A stinky man smells like mildew and mold. A stinky woman smells like sweat, but in a very sweet way
Transtaglia@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 12 pts · 7d
Is time flowing in reverse? I swear this was a thing ten years ago.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 6d
It's the same Naturalist fallacy that health-and-wellness hucksters love to pitch to people. Another one I loved was "don't wash your hair, that causes baldness", leading to an entire graduating class of college kids going around with bedhead for a year or three.
whyderrito@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 6d
DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 6d
Source? Because, the only info I've come across is a decades-old study that linked aluminum with Alzheimer's which was disproved a year later.
whyderrito@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 6d
Aluminum dust exposure and risk of neurodegenerative diseases in a cohort of male miners in Ontario, Canada
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8504163/
Aluminium exposure leads to neurodegeneration and alters the expression of marker genes involved to parkinsonism in zebrafish brain https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0045653522022457
From nature summary
Aluminum Neurotoxicity in Neurodegenerative Diseases
"Aluminium crosses the blood–brain barrier via transferrin-mediated pathways and can catalyse the generation of reactive oxygen species, disrupt mitochondrial function and promote neuroinflammatory cascades. At the molecular level, aluminium ions can bind to amyloidogenic proteins, facilitating the oligomerisation of β-amyloid and stabilising hyperphosphorylated tau, thereby amplifying the formation of senile plaques and neurofibrillary tangles characteristic of Alzheimer’s disease. In Parkinson’s disease and other movement disorders, aluminium may contribute to dopaminergic neuronal loss by exacerbating mitochondrial dysfunction and α-synuclein aggregation. Epidemiological studies have detected elevated aluminium levels in post-mortem brain tissue from patients with Alzheimer’s disease, multiple sclerosis and autism spectrum disorder."
https://www.nature.com/nature-index/topics/l4/aluminum-neurotoxicity-in-neurodegenerative-diseases
hakase@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 6d
So as long as I'm not a zebrafish or a literal mine worker I should probably be fine then?
I also note that you're making a suspiciously large number of pro-stinky comments in this thread.
whyderrito@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 6d
hakase@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 6d
I wasn't insinuating that you were misogynistic, though I can definitely see how that could be taken from my comment in the context of the article.
I did read the third one, or at least what was available for free. It briefly mentions antiperspirants in passing in the same paragraph that mentions all of the likely much more serious confounding factors (including, for example, actual ingestion) that could be leading to aluminum crossing the blood-brain barrier.
From your links I'm convinced that I probably shouldn't eat or inhale aluminum, but I see much less reason to avoid anti-perspirants.
Edit: I'm also skeptical of your Nature link for all of the usual reasons to be wary of meta-studies.
whyderrito@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 6d
hakase@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 6d
Hi, that was me. This place is pro-science, which is why when people post articles with only the most tenuous possible connection to the conversation at hand in order to promote the pro-stink agenda they're spouting all over the thread, it tends to be quite the turnoff.
The same way that stinky people tend to be quite the turnoff.
whyderrito@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 6d
Anarki_@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 11 pts · 6d
The herd thins itself.
KindnessIsPunk@lemmy.ca · 10 pts · 6d
I can't speak for anyone else but I can tell you when I look for a partner the main deal breaker is if they don't shower often enough. I don't want to smell Eau de Ass in my daily life.
whyderrito@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 10 pts · 6d
There's plenty of people on this post acting like a stinky man is unfit.
Suffice to say this is false.
There are plenty of things to criticize in a man. Their stank is not one of the ones that matter to me.
What matters to me:
Are they a misogynist? Are they racist? Are they hateful? Are they classist? Are they kind? Are they empathic? Are they able to cook? Do they clean the dishes when they use them?
Adderbox76@lemmy.ca · 14 pts · 6d
I'm guessing if they're getting their hygiene tips from the man-o-sphere about things like pheremones, etc.... they're likely also going to be all of the above (except the last one).
whyderrito@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 6d
heartSagan5@lemmy.zip · 13 pts · 6d
But that stank is distracting from those higher values.
whyderrito@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 6 pts · 6d
Really?
I have never smelt a cologne that masked the misogyny in an imbecile, nor have I smelt a fart that made me take distance from a good person.
Wren@lemmy.today · 18 pts · 6d
My ex once made me sleep on the couch because I ate an entire bag of wasabi peas that turned my farts into war crimes.
whyderrito@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 6d
Wren@lemmy.today · 8 pts · 6d
He was justified. They started halfway through and I kept eating them.
blargh513@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 6d
Midnight bedfarts are part of being married.
Nobody is innocent in war, though some people won't ever admit that they do it, once you're asleep I can promise something gonna sneak out the back when you're tired enough.
Wren@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 6d
Now I'm imagining my little geneva convention breaking farts in spy costumes skulking out of my butt.
oatscoop@midwest.social · 12 pts · 6d
There's a difference between "I haven't showered today, but otherwise keep myself clean" and "I routinely neglect essential basic hygiene to the degree it can be considered mental illness."
I think some people are assuming you're talking about the later.
whyderrito@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 6d
Bluescluestoothpaste@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 6d
Consider yourself lucky then, ive smelled farts that made me leave work early and go home and shower immediately lmao
whyderrito@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 6d
"Sorry boss, fart was too spicy."
shartgargle@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 6d
You'd love me when I come home from work, then. Industrial chemicals and sweat, too tired to be anything but nice lol
whyderrito@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 6d
shartgargle@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 6d
Lol! Fair enough.
lightnsfw@reddthat.com · 10 pts · 6d
If they can't even wash their own ass they're definitely not empathetic or washing dishes.
fuck_u_spez_in_particular@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 6d
Body odor does not necessarily have to do with washing your own ass, you can stink at the same day you took a shower... There's a difference in smell vs not washed though.
tetris11@feddit.uk · 4 pts · 6d
why do you have to come at me like that
whyderrito@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 15 pts · 6d
Brother, not knowing how to cook is something you can change!
Start by applying an egg to a pan. Competence is built with practice.
If you need recipes or guidance I can help you :).
tetris11@feddit.uk · 3 pts · 6d
I can make a cheese omelette, and rice and peas. I can feed myself essentially, but not to a quality that I can share with others, or so I've been told
Appreciate the offer for recipes though, kind stranger
Wren@lemmy.today · 10 pts · 6d
I'm a trained chef and recently moved into a place with a panini press. Oh my god how I love this thing. It's the ultimate tool for people who can't cook. You don't even need to do anything chef-like, just put ingredients between bread and press for four minutes. Done. It makes rivals to some of my favorite crazy-ass chef'd up meals.
Goat cheese, chicken, tomato spinach and pesto.
Just cheeses, whatever cheeses
Apple, watercress and brie, to impress.
Meatballs, sauce and mozza.
Grill a PB + J, it's a whole new level.
Hell, you can even make french toast with it.
Bluescluestoothpaste@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 6d
That's fine, women aren't looking for a five star chef, they just need a guy who can cook once or twice a week when they're super busy.
whyderrito@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 6d
Then you can cook.
And that about sharing with others.. I understand, however from experience, there's others who will enjoy the fact that you cooked for them, and there's others who will pick at the recipe.
I know what others i prefer.
Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de · 2 pts · 6d
Big pot, fill with chopped whatever the fuck you have in the fridge, add enough water to cover the whateverthefuck, add some salt (careful, can always add more later but you can't remove excess), and cook until it smells like food.
Bluescluestoothpaste@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 6d
I feel like a lot of those things go hand in hand with hygiene though. At least me i dont personally give a shit how i smell, but i shower every morning out respect for others. Someone who doesn't keep themselves clean isn't going to be keeping the kitchen and bathroom clean either.
whyderrito@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 6d
Bluescluestoothpaste@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 6d
Yes, it's a correlation, correct. And yeah every single crackhead bum is an infinitely better person than some corpo executive spending his life destroying the planet. But you also don't wanna date a hobo who's a really great guy.
whyderrito@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 6d
Bluescluestoothpaste@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 6d
You dont have to date either!
blackberry28@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 6d
I don't clean my dishes either. But that's because I have a dishwasher lol. Seriously, aren't dishwashers a thing in the US?
velma@sh.itjust.works · 10 pts · 6d
When we refer to doing the dishes, it typically means unloading and loading the dishwasher. Not every household has a dishwasher here though.
captainlezbian@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 6d
But also it's cleaning the knives, wood, and cast iron. (My house has been decreasing our use of plastic in the kitchen and while it's nice, it does result in some hand washing)
whyderrito@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 5 pts · 6d
Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de · 3 pts · 6d
A lot of people in the US have really weird conceptions about dishwashers, for some reason. Technology Connections has a video where he goes over it and explains that dishwashers work fine and don't require pre-rinsing or whatever.
Bluescluestoothpaste@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 6d
Dishwashers are a thing but it's just easier to handwash tbh. Once i rinse the dish and use a fork to clear any food debris to make it ready for the dishwaher, it takes like two more seconds to wipe it with a soapy sponge. I can just do the whole sink by hand in ten minutes, or spend five minutes loading and then wait an hour.
It's nice when im running late for work or something but 9/10 times i just hand wash.
Zoomboingding@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 6d
Look, be clean and don't smell like sweat. But it's not always a good idea to go crazy with cologne either. I've had one person tell me that my natural scent was extremely attractive.
As always, it's entirely dependent on you and who you're trying to impress.
Blibly@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 6d
Any excuse to not have to wash your ass, boys. 🙄
Rampsquatch@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 6d
"Touching a butthole is gay"
whyderrito@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 7 pts · 6d
Of everything the manosphere is promoting, this is the most mundane and harmless shit ever.
When they promote> Misogyny, doing crack, heck doing a shetload of drugs, narcissism, hitting your face with a hammer, nihilism
no showers.. is.. .. so benign by comparison. jeez
Let men be monkeys please, and try not to push them into a corner about stupid harmless shet. If you're going to corner monke, do so for something worth fighting a cornered animal for.
Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de · 1 pts · 6d
better yet, this can easily be turned into a wholly positive thing: They just have to be informed that they're doing it wrong, that the proper way is to shower and then do a bit of light exercise.
Some people will really enjoy the way your body smells, but very few people will enjoy the smell of bacteria poo. Showering removes the bacteria stench so it's actually possible to smell your natural scent.
whyderrito@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 0 pts · 5d
humans are bacteria poo brother, we eat and drink bacteria poo, like bread, beer, chocolate, coffee etc.
captainlezbian@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 6d
They're promoting crack?
whyderrito@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 5d
meth. sorry. i get confused about hard drugs
piranhaconda@mander.xyz · 7 pts · 5d
I mean I did just date a woman who told me she was into sniffing body odor. As in, would shove her nose into her ex's armpits after he mowed the lawn. We didn't date long enough for it to happen to me, but definitely a thing, for some people
OR3X@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 6d
The pheromones thing does have some basis in science, but it mostly applies to ANIMALS who use scent as the PRIMARY INDICATOR they're biologically ready for mating. As humans we have the ability to communicate verbally which kinda superscedes any need for that mechanism. That said, I have noticed that after dating someone and being around them for a period of time you do start to form a positive correlation between their natural scent and happiness, security, etc. Note that's natural scent, not sweaty-ass BO. I've had several partners that would love to "smell" me and tell me I smell good even though I wasn't wearing any specific colonges or other fragrances. It takes time for that positive correlation to form though, so It's probably not going to do you any good on your first fucking date.
panda_abyss@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 6d
I’ve definitely dated women who smelled better than others, some of whom I very much liked their smell, others not so much. Dated one stinky lady who was an awful kisser, and we broke up for other reasons (bad kissing was due to a super weird/aggressive technique, not not smell or chemistry).
This has had near zero correlation of overall attractiveness or suitability though. Especially given that most of the time you shower near daily, and if you’re not showering for an extended period you’re usually both not showered and go smell blind.
whyderrito@lemmy.dbzer0.com · -3 pts · 6d
cuerdo@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 6d
Fresh pheromones are really powerful, that is why dancing is great for a date. But any other activity works, the key is in fresh.
Old pheromones are diluted in pee.
Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de · 6 pts · 6d
right? if you actually want to advertise "pheromones" (i don't think it's the right term but whatever) you should be taking a shower without using any perfumed products, then just do a little bit of exercise.
Nalivai@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 6d
Jacobson gland doesn't work in humans. We don't sence nor we produce any pheromones.
cuerdo@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 4d
ok, maybe pheromones is not the right word, but the smell of fresh sweat is 100% afrodisiac
Nalivai@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 4d
It's just a smell that some people like, and others really, really don't. Nothing more to it.
captainlezbian@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 6d
Yeah a fresh mild sweat can do wonders, but too much or too old is a problem.
But also, just wearing a little scent while being clean can take it up a notch. That way as the evening goes on your scent slowly takes to the forefront. A scent should be discovered not announced, that goes for both perfumes and bodily scents
Snowclone@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 5d
Just to be clear to anyone that buys into this nonsense. Humans don't produce any kind of pheromones at all, we also don't select mates based on smells we like, the only chemical that effects a human's sexual arousal is testosterone and the most readily avaliable source is male saliva, so everything before the point you're open mouth kissing is social selection, not chemical, stop being gross and wash your ass.
cuerdo@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 4d
ok, maybe pheromones is not the right word, but the smell of fresh sweat is 100% afrodisiac
beejboytyson@lemmy.world · -5 pts · 6d
Dam this is actually a valid theory
Blubber28@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 6d
Disgusting men somehow become more disgusting; more at 11
zero_spelled_with_an_ecks@programming.dev · 6 pts · 6d
Is this better or worse than dousing in Axe?
Viceversa@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 6d
Better
samus12345@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 6d
[foghorn sound]
peacepath@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 6d
Are we human able to feel pheromones? Or do they date other species?
Else, well, if they smell on a daily basis, some honnesty on the first date is not wrong, I guess...
oatscoop@midwest.social · 5 pts · 6d
Maybe not "pheromones", but there's certain aspects that make up our "smell" that people can detect. Compatible immune systems (i.e. "could we likely produce healthy offspring?") and apparently fertility can affect smell in a way people are sensitive to.
And sexuality plays a part too. People prefer the smell of the gender they're attracted to.
peacepath@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 6d
The smell plays a role in attraction. Fertility surely plays a role too, for heterosexual relationships… yet I guess the compatibility of immune system should still play a role in homosexual relationships and between people who aren't fertile (due to age or health conditions) since it is not conscious, no? Do you know if it has been studied too?
captainlezbian@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 6d
That last bit is huge. When I transitioned I went from slightly bi to full homo (hormones can do weird things) and went from thinking that most people smelled pretty good with mild sweat to loving it in women and finding it utterly repulsive in a way that I get how some people could like it, but please get it away from me on men.
whyderrito@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 6d
peacepath@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 6d
A same persone kiss doesn't "taste" the same according to what they ate just before. Yet may the compatibility of a persone doesn't depend on the last thing they ate?
whyderrito@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 6d
When kissing you're not sampling for what they ate, you are sampling for genetic compatibility.
Disgusting?... .. i guess
peacepath@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 6d
I don't sample anything when I kiss, so I don't know… for me it is more a moment of exchange with an other persone and that mater is more in the sentimental feelings and complicity.
whyderrito@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 6d
Sure. Your language is nice and poetic. However, part of that soul searching is gene-matching, and it happens subconsciously.
Not saying your soul isn't beautiful, but don't deprive your meat of it's credit.
peacepath@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 6d
Have you ever kissed someone you loved and found out from that kiss that youwere not compatible with that persone? I have know a few kissers, but I haven't heared of that among my friends or relatives…
whyderrito@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 6d
Jaysyn@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 5d
These same "men" wonder why no one loves them.
Jyek@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 5d
I also wonder why no one loved them. It's clear they didn't get enough love from their parents and family. Their support system is lacking in some fundamental way that they would turn to grifters to feel cared for.
ricecake@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 5d
I have a lot less sympathy. Sometimes people have plenty of love and support and they just do weird messed up shit, or stuff like think the confident Internet guy has good dating advice.
Not everyone who does stuff like this was failed by the system. It's not falling through the cracks if you pull yourself through the hole.
Jaysyn@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 5d
Maybe, but some people are just scum.
Tiral@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 6d
Sounds like a Cosmo magazine that give advice on blow jobs instead a few years ago. They reccomended using teeth. They said something like "he won't ask because he's embarrassed" or something.
glimse@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 6d
"Some kids are eating tide pods!" energy
Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 6d
Jesus, I can smell them through the cartoon...
NastyNative@mander.xyz · 5 pts · 6d
I have never been complemented for smelling like shit but a shower and some light cologne always does the trick.
1985MustangCobra@lemmy.ca · 5 pts · 6d
i do this to keep people away from me.
Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 6d
Boys, remember Pépé Le Pew. Some pheromones say, "Back off! Run!"
Jankatarch@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 6d
::: spoiler Tap for anectodal rant to try explain "how the fuck anyone ends up believing that?"
Went to an all boys middleschool so my main knowledge about women came from hollywood movies by highschool.
I was pretty weird around girls. It gradually toned down but I still feel guilty remembering how annoying I was.
But now with tiktok, people in similar situation will likely have alpha male influencers added in there.
And since likes of andrew tate won't stop talking about women, their audience start believing the "females are a different species" rhetoric. :::
UnLocoPoco@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 5d
This is a natural for reddit mods
Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 6d
Some men are fucking idiots.
Stolas@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 6d
Well, that's horrifying.
Bentov@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 5d
There is a famous letter that Napoleon sent to Josephine with something along the lines of, “I’ll be home in a few weeks, don’t bath.”
Some people like the funk, but to assume that all women do is just foolish.
Avicenna@programming.dev · 3 pts · 6d
Also known as pruning the gene pool
JoMiran@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 6d
What I use to do, which worked well for me.
IF date starts at 8:00pm
THEN
Stank, whether is due to lack of hygiene or overly perfumed soaps, shampoos, hair products, etc. is just unpleasant. I preferred for my partners to remember and desire my scent, not dirty stank, not some cologne, and not the soap/shampoo.
EDIT: The placement of the essential oil or any othe scent is important because nobody likes the taste of perfumes, essential oils, etc.
Viceversa@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 6d
Clove oil?!
JoMiran@lemmy.ml · 4 pts · 6d
Yes. Very small amount. Cedarwood is also nice, especially when mixed with clove, but some people are allergic.
DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 6d
That's quite the routine. All I ever needed was a shower with plain Ivory soap just before the date.
JoMiran@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 6d
I use to have sex with a few people that preferred Ivory, and I could always smell it. I might just have a very sensitive nose.
captainlezbian@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 6d
That's unfortunately not new
FE80@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 6d
The future is weird.
Nikki@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 6d
men stinking on purpose: 🤮
women stinking on accident: 🤤
nomy@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 6d
I'm fairly scent-sensitive and it's true some people stink better than others, men and women.
Story time: I was hiking one time and met this vaguely hippy looking couple coming the other way, as we passed they both stank but in a musky, animal way. It was comforting and more than a little arousing if I'm being honest. I wanted them to rub themselves all over me, or roll around on them like I was their dog and they'd come home from a new place.
captainlezbian@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 6d
Oh yeah, a good musky smell, especially in nature with plenty of woody smells, is unnnfffff so good. A natural diet (especially high in plants), with plenty of time in the outdoors and lots of exercise combined with enough hygiene to wash off the stink before it goes stale… Yeah that'll go great things for one's smell.
In a lot of ways some hippies are the opposite of these 4chan types despite some similarities.
eestileib@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 6d
Clueless men taking advice from closeted gay men on how to pick up women. Good plan.👌🏻
Tikiporch@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 6d
This is like wearing undiluted skatole. Some things shouldn't be maxxxxxxxed.
ToiletFlushShowerScream@piefed.world · 2 pts · 6d
As nervous as I get on dates, I don't think I need to skip any showers beforehand
hOrni@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 6d
A friend of mine used to do something similar. He skipped using deodorant and just sprayed himself with perfume. Because of the pheromone thing. As someone once thought me "the aroma + the stink = the odour".
Thebeardedsinglemalt@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 6d
Forever ago I read the bast thing is to wear an unwashed exercise shirt under their date outfit because pheromones or whatever.
Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de · 1 pts · 6d
assuming it's not been stewing for a week and thus smells like shit..
I wouldn't risk that though: just take a shower, skip all but the lightest perfume, and do a couple jumping jacks, and you'll have plenty of """pheromones""" while also just generally smelling nice.
ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 5d
Note: Listening to female influencers instead won't necessarily solve these kinds of issues, since women grifters also exist. They just (usually) give you different bad answers.
Grass@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 6d
the fumes (maybe just jpeg?) on the illustration make me feel ill
Puddinghelmet@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 5d
RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 6d
I think I may have been standing next to one yesterday. He was much less greasy looking than I expected.
heartSagan5@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 6d
Hey, the President is a role model, and if he's wearing a diaper, it's going to shit.
MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 6d
Bluescluestoothpaste@sh.itjust.works · 0 pts · 6d
I mean yeah if you showered in the morning and didn't sweat during the day, you're fine. We naturally smell good, it's when we sweat and bacteria grows in our sweaty pores, that's where the bad smell comes from.
skeezix@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 6d
That’s called festermaxxing
Bubbaonthebeach@lemmy.ca · 0 pts · 6d
Didn't "The Joy of Sex" have a chapter about natural odor being a turn on? Too many years since I read it to remember exactly.
captainlezbian@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 6d
Natural odor is like perfume, mild and fresh and it's delightful, too much or left for days and it's no longer pleasant
FisicoDelirante@lemmy.ml · -1 pts · 5d
I think everyone knows what is good and bad body odor. If you are healthy, have a good diet, don't smoke and limit alcohol, you're likely to have a please body odor even after training.
SlothMama@lemmy.world · -2 pts · 6d
There is a reasonable scientific basis for this though, even though a lot of people are making fun, this isn't useless advice.
DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 6d
Show me the scientific study that supports men smelling like ass get more ass.
Doesn't exist. All you got is pheromones, not even correlation, just speculation.
whyderrito@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 6d
Bluescluestoothpaste@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 6d
Nobody said smelling like ass, obviously that doesn't smell good to anyone. But yes, if you weren't sweating and you showered in the morning, believe it or not straight women like the smell of men.
thejoker954@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 6d
It is when you can buy pheromone cologne and have the best of both worlds.
Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de · 1 pts · 6d
yes, but that's with the pretty fucking major caveat that you WANT to shower so that people can actually smell your "pheromones" rather than being hit with a wall of fermented sweat.
They got so close but managed to completely miss the point
fan0m@lemmy.world · -2 pts · 6d
Dead serious but I prefer a natural scent. I’m for this.
tacosanonymous@mander.xyz · 9 pts · 6d
Natural is good.
Not showering is bad.
whyderrito@lemmy.dbzer0.com · -5 pts · 6d
generic_computers@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 6d
Animals clean / "bathe" themselves in nature. Showering is natural.
Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de · 2 pts · 6d
also: rain
whyderrito@lemmy.dbzer0.com · -4 pts · 6d
They do so with spit (at least cats do). Not with petrochemicals and aluminum.
NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 6d
You’re aware that there are many, many, aluminum, petroleum, and sulfate free products out there, right? You can also just exfoliate in the shower with only a wash cloth and water. Just because there are shitty products on the market it doesn’t mean you don’t have options for healthy, basic, and yes, natural for humans (which are, arguably, not cats.), hygiene.
whyderrito@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 6d
Sure! Thank god for diversity of choice.
NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 6d
Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de · 2 pts · 6d
the aluminium part i get, but what contains petrochemicals?? Do you mean vaseline?
whyderrito@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 5d
i mean fragances lacquers etc
derivatives of petroleum. gross shit.
fan0m@lemmy.world · -5 pts · 6d
I disagree :)
Just because you don’t like it doesn’t mean others feel the same way.
whyderrito@lemmy.dbzer0.com · -2 pts · 6d
minorkeys@sh.itjust.works · -2 pts · 6d
Or that isn't happening at all but our opinion of men is so shit that media knows we'll bite on this bait.
852005949@sopuli.xyz · -3 pts · 6d
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · -4 pts · 6d
Yet women date these men who bash their faces with hammers and now stink like shit.
lightnsfw@reddthat.com · 4 pts · 6d
Manosphere influencers are getting dates because of that shit. They're getting dates because they're paying for it with money from all the morons following them.
NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 6d
They don’t, though.
heartSagan5@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 6d
Some don't even lather soap up their crack. It's gross.
whyderrito@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 6d
Ptsf@lemmy.world · -6 pts · 6d
I honestly support this. If your future partner dislikes your natural scent, it'll cause all sorts of annoyances downstream. I mean, don't go a week without it, but why do we all peacock so hard instead of just fuckin relaxing with each other? It's not really a wonder the divorce rate is over 50% with modern life, is it?
velma@sh.itjust.works · 15 pts · 6d
No, please shower before dates. Please. No need to cover your natural scent with cologne, but the natural scent should be a cleanish one.
whyderrito@lemmy.dbzer0.com · -12 pts · 6d
Ptsf@lemmy.world · -15 pts · 6d
Nah. I don't see any need to peacock at all. I'll remain hygenic, but you don't need to shower constantly to achieve that, and "your natural scent should be a cleanish one" is such a privledged position lol. I could go on a tangent, but I honestly just don't see any problem with anyone acting any way they would like at all before a date. If you as the receiving party don't like it, gtfo and move on. That's literally the purpose of dating, to find compatibility, not to change each other.
velma@sh.itjust.works · 17 pts · 6d
Basic hygiene is peacocking now?
If you're seeking dates and have the disposable income to meet someone out for dinner and drinks, yeah, take a shower within 24-48 hours of that date.
That's not a wild suggestion.
Ptsf@lemmy.world · -14 pts · 6d
Showing prior to an event is not basic hygiene. I don't know who told you that but most people in America shower too often and damage their skin, don't take my word for it just do some actual research with dermatologists instead of following whatever dead brain rinse and repeat shower commercial you're rotting your mind with.
Also I don't seek women, I'm gay, and yes a shower every 48 hours is recommended but that's not what is specified here, what's specified is one right before the date, and omg do you have the nuclear hetronormitive mindset 😂.
Your suggestions are bad and contain all sorts of preconceived bais, so yes, they're wild.
velma@sh.itjust.works · 10 pts · 6d
Showering within 2 days of the event is showering too often?
I edited my comment to "people" within a minute of posting instead because you're right, not all men date women.
Ptsf@lemmy.world · -12 pts · 6d
Do you even read, or just get mad?
velma@sh.itjust.works · 10 pts · 6d
Right back at ya. You immediately assumed I was suggesting that one should shower immediately before a date every time without actually understanding my comment.
I'm not fighting you on this. Keep not showering and see how that works for dating.
AdolfSchmitler@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 6d
Wut... Privileged how? Because some people don't have access to showers? Because some people can't afford soap? I'm not seeing it.
And if you don't see a problem going on a date without showering or changing into fresh clothes or "acting any way they would at all before the date" then you don't get to complain that women are to picky, they have every right to be. There's a stark difference between "being yourself" and "deceiving someone to get laid".
Ptsf@lemmy.world · -7 pts · 6d
I've also never complained women are picky, and I have a partner. I don't get your position. Seems like you just wanna be right.
AdolfSchmitler@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 6d
Every accusation a confession lol. I wasn't talking about you specifically, but men in general complaining women are too picky yet refusing any modicum of introspection as to why women are not picking them so they just complain. It's like saying "I only eat pizza" and then complaining nobody invites you out for BBQ or something. I could care less about "winning" some internet comment section I'll forget about by dinner.
I just see this incel/male loneliness thing brought up again and again, and instead of knocking them back down i thought I'd try to offer a hand.
Ptsf@lemmy.world · -5 pts · 6d
Yeah idk what sauce you're lost in but I ain't gonna sort it out.
AdolfSchmitler@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 6d
You can't comprehend my comment?
Ptsf@lemmy.world · -7 pts · 6d
Some people smell even shortly after showering with extremely strong body oder.
AdolfSchmitler@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 6d
That seems like something to bring up with your doctor tbh. Of course you can bring up some obscure medical condition to try and prove your point "right", since that seems to be the most important thing to you.
Ptsf@lemmy.world · -5 pts · 6d
Nah dude it's just natural for some people, it's rare sure, but natural especially for certain diets. Mediterranean diets for example often cause specifically strong bo. It's not something I deal with, but it's privledged to treat it like a medical issue or something solvable when it's just something some people live with. Irregardless, it's just one small piece of my overall argument and I don't really care to have it strawmaned lol.
AdolfSchmitler@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 6d
That's a fun way to admit you have no good response lmao
TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today · 9 pts · 6d
Taking a shower before a date is peacocking? I mean I don't think you're going to be especially smelly if you haven't showered in a day or two and haven't been exercising or something.
However, I think it's just common courtesy to have your genitalia as clean as possible if there is even a slight possibility of them being in or around someone's mouth later.
Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de · 1 pts · 6d
even if you do exercise within that time, just using a separate change of gym clothes makes a big difference. It's spending a lot of time afterward in sweaty clothes that causes the stink.
Ptsf@lemmy.world · -4 pts · 6d
Mandating it instead of basing it off your hygiene at the moment is lol. Just be fucking natural and relaxed 😂 idk why this is so hard to grasp.
TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today · 5 pts · 6d
Who is mandating it? It's just common courtesy.
Idk why you think having a quick shower to at least wash your genitals is some kind of demanding task? Is performing oral sex on someone with clean genitals somehow unnatural or unrelaxing to you?
Ptsf@lemmy.world · -5 pts · 6d
That's literally the conversation. My argument is that mandating showers before events is not based on any reasonable logic and that the entire meme here screams of shallow peacocking that won't result in long term compatibility or happiness. You're the only one talking about genitals.
velma@sh.itjust.works · 7 pts · 6d
Most people don't want to put unwashed genitals in their mouths or their own genitals.
Ptsf@lemmy.world · -9 pts · 6d
Why are you so centered on genitals?... This is not about genitals or putting them in mouths. Stop making me second hand to whatever fetish this is lol...
velma@sh.itjust.works · 7 pts · 6d
Dating is a fetish now?
Sometimes after dates, people decide to have sex. Generally, one might want to be clean enough to not give their potential sex partner an infection or bad taste in their mouth.
Do I need to explain how babies come to be as well?
TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today · 6 pts · 6d
I don't think you know what mandate means? Making fun of people who are confusing body odor with pheromones is not the same as someone giving an official command to always bathe before dates.
What do you think peacocking means? I don't know how someone is going to make themselves stand out of the crowd by bathing.
Do you not think the condition of your genitals may have something to do with why you should take a shower? Especially before going on a date?
Ptsf@lemmy.world · -6 pts · 6d
I know what mandate means, it's fine you don't understand me I don't wish to clarify.
Peacocking is just changing any set of habits to impress over your baseline, it doesn't require any specific or significant signifer and can be hygiene, dress, financial, or otherwise.
I think that you're too fuckin shallow if you think a date directly ties to sex, but hey, lots of people are.
TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today · 6 pts · 6d
That is not the commonly understood definition of peacocking......
"Peacocking is a social behavior where someone dresses or acts in a flashy, exaggerated way to grab attention and stand out from a crowd"
Wut? I wouldn't exactly go on a date to acquire a platonic friendship..... Typically dates are tied to a romantic relationship, most romantic relationships include sexual intercourse.
It's hilarious that you think being considerate to your partner makes you shallow. I feel bad for any of your current or future significant others.
Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 6d
Yah, wtf are people on about. How stinky are these mfs where they need to shower BEFORE A DATE?! I’ve NEVER showered before a date. If you shower every day or every other day, you shouldn’t be a stink person, especially not enough to necessitate showering AGAIN BEFORE A DATE. I don’t wanna go out with someone and have them smell like chemicals or flowers or potpourri or some shit. I want them to smell like person.
I’m with my forever partner now so we won’t shower for a week, and they always smell good to me uwu
TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today · 9 pts · 6d
I mean...... Isn't it just common courtesy to be as clean as possible if there is a probability of any sexual activity?
Do you guys not exercise or have sex? I don't even have the gene for underarm body odor, and even I would be smelly after a week.
Ptsf@lemmy.world · -3 pts · 6d
Yeah idk. I think they're just high on their own ego.
whyderrito@lemmy.dbzer0.com · -3 pts · 6d
Ptsf@lemmy.world · -2 pts · 6d
And they're fine just being fake or high effort, like that's maintainable in a long term relationship 😂. Like fuck bro we all get old, you're gonna be changing your partners drawers or vice versa at some point. Life gets rough, they'll find out eventually.
whyderrito@lemmy.dbzer0.com · -2 pts · 6d